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| 04:10.03 | CptAJ | Well, in my two-day exploration of ebay and amazon I've come to the conclusion that they both suck |
| 04:10.45 | CptAJ | ebay is full of fake refurbs and amazon doesn't even sell things anymore. It's all their "partners", which tend to screw you |
| 04:11.02 | CptAJ | you guys know any good online retailers carrying unlocked phones? |
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| 04:23.53 | arrrghhh | CptAJ, what are you trying to buy? |
| 04:24.26 | CptAJ | any droid phone below 230$ |
| 04:24.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | DX ftw |
| 04:24.42 | CptAJ | HAS to be unlocked |
| 04:25.11 | arrrghhh | oh so you want used... |
| 04:25.19 | CptAJ | why is amazon so unreliable? There's a lot of people complaining about unlocked phones not being unlocked at all |
| 04:25.20 | arrrghhh | i guess craigslist? there really isn't a "good" place for used phones. |
| 04:25.40 | CptAJ | no, I want new XD |
| 04:25.40 | arrrghhh | because they're individual sellers |
| 04:25.43 | arrrghhh | it's not Amazon selling it |
| 04:25.59 | arrrghhh | then you are going to have to increase your price requirement. $230 for a brand new unlocked phone? you nuts? |
| 04:26.30 | CptAJ | doesn't have to be a GOOD one XD |
| 04:26.35 | arrrghhh | brand new unlocked phones are like $500-600 |
| 04:26.48 | arrrghhh | you're going to HAVE to go used if you want less than $300. |
| 04:26.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | for $230 you can get some xperia mini. but that's msm7227 crap |
| 04:27.01 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], he's coming from a Whitestone |
| 04:27.06 | arrrghhh | so anything's better at this point lol |
| 04:27.09 | CptAJ | exactly |
| 04:28.04 | CptAJ | I'd hit up some of the xda folk at the marketplace but paypal is kind of complicated for me. direct credit card purchases are way easier |
| 04:28.16 | CptAJ | stupid foreign trade limitations -_- |
| 04:28.20 | arrrghhh | paypal is too complex? lol |
| 04:28.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | for $250 you can get a new xperia ray (msm8225) and for $200 - msm7227 xperia x8 |
| 04:28.47 | CptAJ | it is when you're not allowed to purchase foreign currency by your communist government =( |
| 04:29.08 | arrrghhh | not bad |
| 04:29.20 | arrrghhh | CptAJ, no clue what you're talking about, but i also have no clue where you're at. |
| 04:29.23 | arrrghhh | China? lol. |
| 04:29.32 | CptAJ | venezuela |
| 04:29.37 | arrrghhh | oh. |
| 04:29.39 | arrrghhh | i'm sorry. |
| 04:30.09 | CptAJ | when chavez took over with his whole revolution everyone basically freaked out and started exchanging their money to the dollar |
| 04:30.34 | CptAJ | so, facing a complete firesale of the country's assets, he imposed a foreign exchange block |
| 04:30.34 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 04:30.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | CptAJ: http://www.segodnya.ua/img/forall/a/141843/84.jpg |
| 04:30.41 | arrrghhh | nice. |
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| 04:31.12 | CptAJ | we cant exchange our money for other currencies except under very limited circumbstances like 4-5k$ a year for travel |
| 04:31.34 | CptAJ | ofcourse, theres a black market. but paypal is complicated XD |
| 04:31.53 | arrrghhh | sounds simple. MOVE |
| 04:31.54 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:32.00 | arrrghhh | i know, not always that simple. |
| 04:32.03 | arrrghhh | but damn. |
| 04:32.16 | CptAJ | well, people get rich under foreign exchange blockades >_> |
| 04:32.23 | CptAJ | if they play their cards right |
| 04:32.31 | CptAJ | trying to do that atm |
| 04:32.46 | arrrghhh | i kinda want to get the F out of this country |
| 04:32.52 | arrrghhh | not sure if i'll be able to tho :S |
| 04:32.59 | CptAJ | US? |
| 04:33.06 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 04:33.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | lolumad |
| 04:33.39 | arrrghhh | eh i guess |
| 04:33.57 | CptAJ | the only thing broken in the US is pretty much healthcare |
| 04:34.01 | arrrghhh | just done w/the horseshit. i'm sure it's one of those grass is always greener on the other sid eof the fence. |
| 04:34.08 | arrrghhh | that's the only thing broken eh? |
| 04:34.19 | arrrghhh | our education system is top notch? lol. |
| 04:34.22 | CptAJ | its the only thing broken that MAY be kinda better elsewhere |
| 04:34.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | education? hum... |
| 04:34.32 | CptAJ | lol, yeah. it is XD |
| 04:34.33 | arrrghhh | how about the highway system? pretty f-ed up. |
| 04:34.51 | arrrghhh | cell phone coverage? abysmal. |
| 04:34.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: don't bitch about education and highway when russians are in thread |
| 04:35.00 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], LOL |
| 04:35.02 | arrrghhh | sorry. |
| 04:35.13 | CptAJ | *AND venezuelans XD |
| 04:35.20 | arrrghhh | i pay too much in taxes for it to be squandered on stupid things like war. |
| 04:35.33 | CptAJ | yeah, the war thing does suck |
| 04:35.41 | CptAJ | europe is the place to be IMO |
| 04:35.47 | arrrghhh | i don't even want to think about how many trillions it has cost us. |
| 04:35.50 | CptAJ | hope they stop going bankrupt |
| 04:35.56 | arrrghhh | Europe has some interesting issues of its own. |
| 04:36.04 | arrrghhh | depending on the country obviously |
| 04:36.23 | arrrghhh | wow, i think i'm finished @ work for the night. |
| 04:36.51 | arrrghhh | cya guys |
| 04:36.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | have fun |
| 04:41.39 | CptAJ | getting tired of this quest for a cellphone -_- |
| 04:42.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | CptAJ: get xperia x8 or ray? should be the same price as a used hd2 |
| 04:42.36 | CptAJ | from where? |
| 04:43.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | CptAJ: ebay? |
| 04:44.24 | CptAJ | there are so many scammers there -_- |
| 04:45.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | probably some local offline shop selling unofficially imported hardware? |
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| 04:47.35 | jonpry | unlocked moto charm is 100 from newegg |
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| 05:01.43 | CptAJ | dont like that form factor at all though |
| 05:02.19 | CptAJ | unlocked milestone from amazon at 175$ is the best deal they have |
| 05:03.12 | CptAJ | amazon themselves that is. I dont want to touch their partners unless someone vouches for them specifically |
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| 05:20.47 | Ondalf | kick isp aggressively. might help. |
| 05:23.16 | jonpry | zeusk, you get 3.3 running? |
| 05:24.40 | zeusk | i didn't try that yet, i have to first get block device partitioning done for the next magldr in linux |
| 05:26.37 | zeusk | i will do it today |
| 05:28.46 | zeusk | what amss is on rhod ? |
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| 21:46.30 | CptAJ | ok, batfriends. Dev time. When we last saw our heroes, the logs were showing a kernel panic related to wakelocks. (http://paste2.org/p/1968226) it seemed to indicate that the wakelock list was getting corrupted (Getting a null pointer). |
| 21:47.25 | CptAJ | Now, tell me about this wakelock list. Where is it created? Who touches it? and what could lead to it getting constantly corrupted? |
| 21:52.16 | CptAJ | Compiling without CONFIG_WAKELOCK_STAT and CONFIG_USER_WAKELOCK mitigates the issue a little bit but the crashes happen eventually, although they're more violent and without a traceback. (http://paste2.org/p/1978401) |
| 21:52.46 | CptAJ | thoughts? |
| 21:56.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | look where wakelocks are touched in smd/tty stuff. add more null checks and a global mutex around wakelock creation/deletion. anyway, i've never seen any wakelock-related issue, but i haven't used .27 kernel more than half an hour in total.. i just ported everything to 35 |
| 21:56.41 | CptAJ | should I just do that instead of trying to debug this? |
| 21:57.06 | CptAJ | I mean, is there a good chance the bug wont be on 35? |
| 21:58.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i don't think anyone used 35 except me.. so it only really works on amss 5225 and wl1251 wifi. better debug 27 or use jonpry's 3.X tree |
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