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| 13:58.29 | [Kosh] | hey Alexx |
| 13:59.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Kosh]: i rate your hiding skills 5/10 |
| 14:00.06 | [Kosh] | okay |
| 14:00.36 | [Kosh] | I rate GCC compile time / memory usage / stability as -10/10 :D |
| 14:01.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | gcc sucks, but there are few alternatives. there is clang+llvm, it is fast, compact and has clean code but it only supports x86 and arm now and not all software compiles with it |
| 14:01.55 | [Kosh] | do u know faster compatible compilers for Linux? |
| 14:02.20 | [Kosh] | is it support C++ fully? |
| 14:02.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | c++ - yes, c++11 - no |
| 14:03.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | from what i heard, most debian and freebsd packages can be compiled with it. on freebsd even kernel can |
| 14:04.12 | whitekidney | Alex[sp3dev]: i rate your recent message 10/10 |
| 14:04.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | whitekidney: are you a bsd fan? |
| 14:05.29 | whitekidney | yep |
| 14:05.38 | [Kosh] | heh |
| 14:05.45 | [Kosh] | I thought better about GCC before |
| 14:05.59 | [Kosh] | now seems only one good compiler exist, but for windows only - CL |
| 14:06.28 | [Kosh] | whitekidney, how is battery? ^^ |
| 14:07.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Kosh]: of course making a good compiler for just one os and cpu is easier. but ms compiler and c++ library are not perfect. they do contain some bugs (i remember seing one bug with priority queue in stl in vs2008). |
| 14:08.09 | [Kosh] | yeah |
| 14:08.11 | [Kosh] | a lot of bugs |
| 14:08.45 | whitekidney | [Kosh]: 35% now |
| 14:08.50 | [Kosh] | but seems seems problems in some general things |
| 14:09.01 | [Kosh] | like I have 3.25 Gb and it's not enough for 4 x GCC |
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| 14:10.30 | [Kosh] | lol flash crashed in linux |
| 14:11.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Kosh]: what are you compiling? 3.25 gb sounds like a lot of ram. even kde and openoffice can complile with 1gb ram |
| 14:11.33 | [Kosh] | there is complex C++ sources |
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| 14:11.53 | [Kosh] | but they are normal . . not 40 mb |
| 14:11.58 | [Kosh] | every file |
| 14:12.28 | [Kosh] | another interesting thing that when it's compiling 4 threads ever mouse cursor lags |
| 14:12.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's not interesting |
| 14:12.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's obvious) |
| 14:12.42 | [Kosh] | so actually linux can't manage resources right |
| 14:12.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | it can and does) |
| 14:12.53 | [Kosh] | never happens on windows |
| 14:12.55 | [Kosh] | why? |
| 14:13.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | windows changes tasks priority, it assigns more priority to ui and multimedia apps |
| 14:13.18 | [Kosh] | right |
| 14:13.30 | [Kosh] | I wanna read internets during compilation |
| 14:13.33 | [Kosh] | can I? |
| 14:13.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | if you do a renice on x server or run compilation with more nicety, i think it should work |
| 14:13.47 | helicopter88 | I set foobar permissions to 1,it always runs fast |
| 14:13.56 | [Kosh] | ok let me try |
| 14:14.06 | [Kosh] | gnome-system-monitor looks cool |
| 14:14.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | gnome shell looks cool |
| 14:14.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | but it is a piece of shit anyway |
| 14:15.28 | [Kosh] | why u think so |
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| 14:16.28 | [Kosh] | bad code? or u don't like ideology? |
| 14:17.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | because it is very slow and depends on opengl. it does not use any complex transforms, only alpha blending. i think if it was not using opengl, but overlays or xrender extensions for fast blending and blitting, it would work on more computers/devices and would be faster |
| 14:17.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually it would be good to profile it and see what takes most time |
| 14:17.53 | [Kosh] | hehe |
| 14:17.58 | [Kosh] | I didn't notice that |
| 14:18.07 | [Kosh] | but I notice that all is extremely buggy |
| 14:18.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | which distro? |
| 14:18.17 | [Kosh] | Lubuntu |
| 14:18.24 | [Kosh] | but I guess it's common |
| 14:18.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | may be.. i only tried it on fedora. seems ok |
| 14:18.31 | [Kosh] | like u go to clock to setup right time |
| 14:18.40 | [Kosh] | and u got screensaver cuz time is elapsed |
| 14:18.48 | [Kosh] | :D |
| 14:21.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Holo-280076980? seems legit |
| 14:21.47 | zeusk | not bad |
| 14:21.54 | [Kosh] | but again buggy? |
| 14:21.59 | zeusk | infact i liked ics-x86 over windows 8 on my pc :| |
| 14:22.09 | zeusk | scroll bars are bad :( |
| 14:22.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | in windows 8 keyboard looks exactly like the one in android 3.0 |
| 14:22.36 | [Kosh] | new ubuntu also looking fresh |
| 14:22.41 | [Kosh] | but when u start to use it . . . |
| 14:22.42 | [Kosh] | :D |
| 14:22.49 | zeusk | new ubuntu ? |
| 14:23.04 | [Kosh] | es |
| 14:23.04 | zeusk | 12.04 ? |
| 14:23.22 | [Kosh] | yes? |
| 14:23.26 | [Kosh] | with uniti |
| 14:23.53 | zeusk | lol |
| 14:23.58 | zeusk | unity is fail |
| 14:24.22 | zeusk | maybe ok for small screens, but on a 24' monitor, it is silly |
| 14:24.35 | DuperMan | win8 :P |
| 14:24.38 | DuperMan | har |
| 14:25.28 | zeusk | dunno why ms and apple bringing mobile platform stuff on desktop... *unrequired stuff |
| 14:25.59 | DuperMan | zeusk: evolution baby. |
| 14:26.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | is devolution a word? |
| 14:26.13 | DuperMan | fittest being most fitting for general population's use |
| 14:26.30 | DuperMan | yes, but it doesn't apply though I share the sentiment |
| 14:26.34 | zeusk | i rate your comment 10/10 alex |
| 14:27.06 | [Kosh] | we started from GCC :D |
| 14:27.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | 3.0/193 MB, 3 hours left. Y U SO SAMSUNG |
| 14:27.20 | DuperMan | isn't even popular as geek, hates reality's incompatiblity with how ppl want shit to be |
| 14:27.47 | [Kosh] | 193 mb? |
| 14:27.52 | [Kosh] | why it's not odd? |
| 14:28.24 | helicopter88 | was it "tar xzf" to extract something? |
| 14:28.39 | DuperMan | tar and feathers |
| 14:28.40 | zeusk | depends on archive format |
| 14:28.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm downloading icy ass kernel source |
| 14:29.01 | [Kosh] | lol |
| 14:29.05 | DuperMan | i wanna see ass too but lazy to google, link me |
| 14:29.19 | [Kosh] | I read somewhere when kernel must have odd number of megabytes is it right? |
| 14:29.25 | helicopter88 | "tar: ./lost+found: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 01:00:00" |
| 14:29.26 | [Kosh] | *what |
| 14:29.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/11/71%20Ass%20Tomato.jpg |
| 14:29.31 | zeusk | hates google and all manufacturers for not supporting legacy devices, atleast for 2~3 years.. |
| 14:29.38 | DuperMan | [Kosh]: srsly? >< |
| 14:29.48 | [Kosh] | yes I read somewhere |
| 14:29.50 | detule | i thought we support legacy devices |
| 14:29.52 | [Kosh] | some time ago |
| 14:29.59 | DuperMan | Alex[sp3dev]: that was a cool tomato |
| 14:30.01 | zeusk | (we), not manufacturer |
| 14:30.07 | [Kosh] | we not really support it |
| 14:30.24 | [Kosh] | just make something similar to support with open source attitude |
| 14:30.38 | detule | we seem to be doing a pretty bang up job with a few of 'em |
| 14:30.40 | [Kosh] | but it's right - we have not enough resources for full support |
| 14:30.41 | DuperMan | support is byproduct |
| 14:30.43 | DuperMan | :P |
| 14:32.10 | zeusk | troll steve jobs says flash is bad cause it's not native. *puts quicktime all over apple.com |
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| 14:32.48 | DuperMan | quicktime native to framework |
| 14:33.27 | zeusk | native to framework ? then shouldn't he be serving windows clients with silverlight version of apple.com ? |
| 14:33.52 | DuperMan | he should |
| 14:33.56 | DuperMan | but dead |
| 14:33.58 | DuperMan | and douche |
| 14:34.01 | zeusk | ... |
| 14:34.12 | zeusk | brb, i go play some battlefield |
| 14:34.29 | DuperMan | will kill you when new gfx card arrives :D |
| 14:34.55 | zeusk | :seemslegit: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/03/17/samsung-employee-allegedly-leaks-photo-of-the-galaxy-s-iii-the-plot-thickens/ |
| 14:35.30 | DuperMan | again? it'll come out april by law of marketting cycles, will rock, my heart will break, wallet won't |
| 14:36.19 | zeusk | ... |
| 14:36.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | do we really need 2gb ram by now? i think there won't be a major breakthrough until a15 cpus with virtualization appear |
| 14:37.09 | zeusk | 2gb ? personally even 1 gb is overkill |
| 14:37.55 | DuperMan | yes, we do. we need 4. fucking 32bit |
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| 15:20.37 | zeusk | back |
| 15:21.17 | zeusk | :o DuperMan, but what's the use of having 4gb when you can't use it all ? |
| 15:21.31 | zeusk | lol, i still have a laptop with 256mb ram, epic win |
| 15:22.52 | DuperMan | zeusk: 1337? |
| 15:23.03 | DuperMan | if you'll build it, then they'll come |
| 15:23.29 | zeusk | personally, i'd like google to be able to run ics smoothly with 256mb ram |
| 15:23.47 | zeusk | better hardware makes software engineers oversee their own mistakes |
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| 21:50.55 | zeusk | yo doods |
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| 21:51.42 | xxxxxxx | hy |
| 21:52.08 | Cotulla | lol why u are not sleeping? |
| 21:52.18 | xxxxxxx | :) |
| 21:52.33 | Cotulla | ip is different so it's not his clone |
| 21:52.59 | xxxxxxx | i search an android for thosiba tg 01 |
| 21:53.01 | xxxxxxx | :( |
| 21:53.31 | xxxxxxx | can you help me? |
| 21:54.13 | Cotulla | fully working android doesn't exist for TG01 AFAIK |
| 21:55.08 | xxxxxxx | toshdroid? |
| 21:55.13 | xxxxxxx | for sd? |
| 21:56.08 | zeusk | yo cotulla |
| 21:56.12 | xxxxxxx | do you have a good link? |
| 21:56.12 | zeusk | sup |
| 21:56.24 | zeusk | sory xxxx, all i have are bad links :( |
| 21:56.29 | zeusk | they don't obey me |
| 21:56.32 | zeusk | bad links... |
| 21:57.14 | xxxxxxx | where can i find toshdroid for tg 01 |
| 21:57.16 | xxxxxxx | ? |
| 21:57.28 | zeusk | google or xda-developers ? |
| 21:57.53 | Cotulla | I found some link http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=196603 |
| 21:57.59 | Cotulla | try to look there |
| 21:59.04 | xxxxxxx | not good:(((( |
| 21:59.36 | Cotulla | why? I see some screens |
| 21:59.45 | Cotulla | looks like TG01? |
| 22:00.37 | xxxxxxx | yes but links download are not good |
| 22:00.38 | xxxxxxx | :( |
| 22:00.53 | Cotulla | so register there . . . I guess it's the best variant |
| 22:01.07 | Cotulla | cuz those russian hackers usually have everything before everybody |
| 22:01.13 | xxxxxxx | where? |
| 22:01.29 | Cotulla | here I think http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=196603 |
| 22:02.09 | zeusk | xxxxxx, why don't you buy htc android phone ? |
| 22:02.31 | xxxxxxx | no....the links for download are on megaupload.com and is close.... |
| 22:02.40 | zeusk | http://v.classone.cn/cshow/PW2IPR4H.shtml |
| 22:02.43 | Cotulla | hm agree with u zeusk, android experience can be bad on TG01 cuz it have bad screen for android |
| 22:02.44 | zeusk | you can try that |
| 22:03.13 | Cotulla | but I know gsensor doesn't work there |
| 22:03.18 | Cotulla | and camera too |
| 22:03.30 | Cotulla | is it true? |
| 22:03.43 | xxxxxxx | i dont no |
| 22:03.58 | zeusk | have you tried this http://www.sogi.com.cn/wp/article_list.aspx?OsId=3&topic_ID=6101148&page=4 ? |
| 22:04.23 | zeusk | also, many roms here http://bbs.kdsm.cn/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=166&filter=typeid&typeid=968 |
| 22:04.42 | Cotulla | cool they said it's working one |
| 22:05.35 | zeusk | yeah, and download links working too |
| 22:06.42 | xxxxxxx | i will try |
| 22:06.48 | Cotulla | I am sorry but I can't help u more :( |
| 22:07.11 | xxxxxxx | tank you |
| 22:07.23 | Cotulla | what ur nick means btw? |
| 22:07.45 | zeusk | yeah, ever i wonder what is "xxxxxxx" :o |
| 22:07.57 | Cotulla | wait I asked about ur nick zeusk |
| 22:07.59 | Cotulla | :p |
| 22:08.04 | zeusk | :o |
| 22:08.15 | zeusk | zeusk = greek god of gods |
| 22:08.16 | Cotulla | or rpierce99 |
| 22:08.20 | Cotulla | lol |
| 22:08.22 | Cotulla | god of gods |
| 22:08.23 | zeusk | but sadly i am not god :( |
| 22:08.44 | zeusk | you play god of war ? |
| 22:08.51 | Cotulla | nope |
| 22:08.59 | Cotulla | I play into more awful games :o |
| 22:09.23 | zeusk | like ? |
| 22:09.57 | Cotulla | more awful |
| 22:10.06 | zeusk | :o |
| 22:10.17 | xxxxxxx | xxx is a nick ....my name is marius |
| 22:10.19 | xxxxxxx | :) |
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| 22:10.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | Domination is the name of the game! |
| 22:10.49 | Cotulla | no |
| 22:11.14 | Cotulla | I rate ur sentence as 0/10 :) |
| 22:11.20 | xxxxxxx | i cant find nothing....is write in chinese:((((( |
| 22:11.23 | zeusk | :o qsd8672 exists ? :o wtf |
| 22:11.30 | Cotulla | I mean E3 A0 00 00 game |
| 22:11.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | so you prefer being dominated to doninating? |
| 22:11.40 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:11.45 | zeusk | xxxxxxx, sorry but most tg01 developers are chinese or russian :( |
| 22:11.46 | Cotulla | or C3 game |
| 22:12.09 | Cotulla | me - nope |
| 22:12.15 | Cotulla | I like nope |
| 22:12.18 | Cotulla | <3 |
| 22:12.19 | xxxxxxx | i understand.... |
| 22:12.30 | xxxxxxx | 10x |
| 22:12.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | e3a00000 is a bad game |
| 22:12.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | 01a00000 is a safer one |
| 22:12.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | s/01a/e1a/ |
| 22:13.21 | zeusk | :o imaginary games ? |
| 22:13.22 | Cotulla | what can u say about byte sex? |
| 22:13.24 | zeusk | i never heard |
| 22:13.33 | zeusk | it can be small or big |
| 22:13.48 | Cotulla | nope |
| 22:13.53 | zeusk | o.o |
| 22:13.53 | Cotulla | I rate ur answer as 0/ 10 |
| 22:14.01 | Cotulla | nope I rate ur answer as 5/ 10 |
| 22:14.02 | zeusk | big endian, little endian... |
| 22:14.07 | Cotulla | little not small |
| 22:14.10 | Cotulla | ;D |
| 22:14.14 | zeusk | :/ |
| 22:14.17 | Cotulla | :o |
| 22:15.30 | zeusk | but i still don't understand what is the advantage in using two byte sex, waste of power converting network data to little endian for little endian cpus |
| 22:15.39 | zeusk | or other way around |
| 22:16.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. inside the cpu little endian is faster when you read a word as a half/quarter word |
| 22:16.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | in network it's easier to use big endian because you can stream data without specifying its size/end |
| 22:16.51 | xxxxxxx | e cineva din romania? |
| 22:17.11 | zeusk | sorry xxxxxxxx, i only speak chinese and english |
| 22:17.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | i rate the song i'm going to listen to 10/10 |
| 22:17.30 | xxxxxxx | ok |
| 22:17.43 | zeusk | 你好 |
| 22:17.52 | xxxxxxx | :)))) |
| 22:17.56 | xxxxxxx | ok |
| 22:18.12 | zeusk | 好 |
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| 22:18.27 | Cotulla | lol |
| 22:18.29 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:18.30 | zeusk | what song is that alex ? |
| 22:18.39 | xxxxxxx | you have the archive for tg01? |
| 22:18.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeusk: of course that's dm - strangelove. most awesome song of all times |
| 22:19.04 | xxxxxxx | can you upload for me? |
| 22:19.05 | zeusk | 不，我是狮子座的开发商 |
| 22:19.20 | zeusk | (i don't have tg01 files) |
| 22:19.22 | xxxxxxx | zeusk?? |
| 22:19.30 | xxxxxxx | :))))) |
| 22:19.32 | xxxxxxx | ok |
| 22:20.02 | Cotulla | yes I like it too |
| 22:20.17 | Cotulla | this chords are so great |
| 22:20.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | vocals are also cool |
| 22:20.59 | xxxxxxx | can nyone downlod for me and upload on rapid share? |
| 22:21.02 | xxxxxxx | plssss |
| 22:21.31 | Cotulla | pain - again |
| 22:21.34 | Cotulla | ta da tadam |
| 22:21.42 | zeusk | net in my country is very slow and china has firewall, i get ever only 10kb/s |
| 22:21.47 | zeusk | so i cannot :( |
| 22:22.08 | xxxxxxx | ohh my god |
| 22:22.42 | Cotulla | what about Policy of truth? |
| 22:22.44 | xxxxxxx | why? |
| 22:22.52 | Willd | Cotulla: I rate it 5/10 |
| 22:23.08 | zeusk | i rate it 6/10 |
| 22:23.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | i rate it 6/10 |
| 22:23.26 | zeusk | i rate your rating 10/10 alex |
| 22:24.01 | Cotulla | my favorite sound from Violator |
| 22:24.20 | Cotulla | what about Photographic? |
| 22:24.27 | Cotulla | I take pictures photographic pictures |
| 22:24.59 | zeusk | what about daft punk ? |
| 22:25.10 | zeusk | tron songs were cool |
| 22:25.19 | Cotulla | oh |
| 22:25.26 | Cotulla | Hanz Zimmer ruless |
| 22:25.50 | zeusk | yes |
| 22:25.59 | zeusk | inception and dark knight were awesome |
| 22:26.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | my dm rating: strangelove, lie to me, stripped, here is the house, a question of time, behind the wheel, blasphemous rumours, black celebration, shake the disease, never let me down again, rush, wrong, nodisco, things you said, john the revelator, photographic |
| 22:26.39 | Cotulla | lie to me <3 |
| 22:26.40 | zeusk | i think i should go sleep, i am seeing wrong hex codes |
| 22:26.48 | Cotulla | question of time <3 |
| 22:26.50 | zeusk | good night doods |
| 22:26.56 | Cotulla | bb |
| 22:26.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | gn |
| 22:27.04 | Cotulla | but "here is the house" sounds boring a bit for me |
| 22:27.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | may be |
| 22:27.27 | Cotulla | but most items are simular |
| 22:27.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | but their last album (sounds of the universe) sucks |
| 22:29.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway i'm also heading to bed. got damn exams this week (we have them every 2.5 months because we're studying by 'modules', not 'semesters'), so no time for anything. |
| 22:29.29 | Cotulla | oh |
| 22:29.32 | Cotulla | honestly |
| 22:29.38 | Cotulla | I like more the first albums |
| 22:29.48 | Cotulla | there is fresh sound |
| 22:29.55 | Cotulla | modern sounds boring for me |
| 22:30.11 | Cotulla | good luck Alexx |
| 22:30.17 | Cotulla | modules . . wtf |
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| 22:37.55 | jonpry | 3.3 yet? |
| 22:38.49 | bzo | hey jonpry |
| 22:39.45 | jonpry | hi bzo |
| 22:40.14 | bzo | I guess android porting will be easy now with the 3.3/3.4 kernels :p |
| 22:40.25 | Willd | How come? |
| 22:40.40 | Willd | Oh, look at that |
| 22:40.42 | bzo | android junk is getting mainstreamed |
| 22:41.06 | jonpry | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.38 | jonpry | cause our patchsets will have billions of conflicts |
| 22:41.56 | Willd | A lot of y/n then :p |
| 22:42.18 | jonpry | i imagine they even changed some of those api's |
| 22:42.36 | bzo | maybe best to start clean from official source |
| 22:42.45 | bzo | seems like you have a lot of practice with that jonpry |
| 22:44.41 | jonpry | with android in mainline we might be able to mainline rhod support |
| 22:45.17 | bzo | you still running the rhod? |
| 22:45.52 | jonpry | yes. but i can't run android because it won't work with my mvno |
| 22:47.07 | jonpry | i tried running stock htc ril's with no luck either |
| 22:47.20 | bzo | so you are running winmo nowadays??? |
| 22:47.34 | jonpry | yes urgh |
| 22:47.51 | jonpry | hoping someone will fix mvno |
| 22:48.18 | bzo | dang, I only use winmo on the rhod when I only need it to be a dumbphone, lol |
| 22:48.53 | bzo | which mvno is it btw? |
| 22:49.01 | jonpry | h2o |
| 22:49.25 | Willd | jonpry: And it works with a standard operator? |
| 22:49.31 | jonpry | i posted up logcat -b radio's some time ago |
| 22:49.50 | jonpry | yeah i have used it on tmobile digicell and lime |
| 22:50.04 | Willd | I wonder if you are alone in this.. |
| 22:50.49 | bzo | weird, I would think that if you setup the apn, it would work |
| 22:51.24 | jonpry | me too |
| 22:51.47 | jonpry | its very strange i've made some phonecalls with it. but then it dies. only can make a single call like 1/10 boots. |
| 22:52.20 | jonpry | thats for data though. voice should just work |
| 22:53.14 | jonpry | data is actually more reliable than calls. but if i turn data on all possibility of calls is out the window |
| 22:53.25 | bzo | I think the ril was originally hacked for the cdma rhod, so I suppose it wouldn't be surprising if there are a bunch of GSM bugs |
| 22:53.52 | jonpry | i did a gsm ril wrapper and ran rils from other htc gsm phones |
| 22:54.18 | bzo | same result? |
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| 22:57.17 | detule | hey jonpry |
| 22:57.41 | bzo | hi detule |
| 22:57.48 | detule | hi bzo |
| 22:58.02 | bzo | you got the camcorder fixed? |
| 22:58.27 | detule | cyanogen did |
| 22:58.44 | bzo | nice, in any case |
| 22:58.51 | detule | damnit i wanted him to try a ril |
| 23:00.20 | bzo | so with the cam fix, I guess gb >= froyo functionality? |
| 23:01.23 | detule | i guess so, certainly acoustic makes a difference |
| 23:02.19 | bzo | though I also seem to be experiencing less stability with the radio, like hyc mentioned |
| 23:03.37 | detule | you using the vz radio? |
| 23:04.04 | bzo | I reverted back to sprint, sometimes the vz radio makes winmo go crazy |
| 23:05.43 | detule | the vz radio is a rock for me....dinner time i'll be back later |
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| 23:15.42 | jonpry | i think it might have something to do with the electrical properties of the sim card. there are lots of i/o errors in the logcat. but googling them turned up lots of results from working phones so its apparently not fatal |
| 23:15.49 | jonpry | stupid internet |
| 23:16.40 | bzo | hmm, so some sort of kernel fix needed perhaps for sim hardware? |
| 23:17.05 | jonpry | hi detule |
| 23:17.37 | bzo | he left, said he'd be bbl |
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| 23:18.32 | jonpry | iirc there is something going on with sim power |
| 23:19.37 | jonpry | maybe its a 1.8v sim or something |
| 23:19.50 | bzo | perhaps it can request different voltages like mmc? |
| 23:21.02 | jonpry | perhaps |
| 23:22.00 | bzo | must be so, wikipedia says there are 3 different voltages supported |
| 23:23.27 | jonpry | which vreg is for the sim? |
| 23:24.23 | bzo | dunno, don't ever recall a reference to it in the code |
| 23:24.31 | bzo | must be left to the default |
| 23:26.01 | bzo | I see a mention that sims are usually compatible across 2 voltages 5 and 3 or 3 and 1.8 |
| 23:26.17 | bzo | in theory, I suppose supplying 3v would be universal |
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| 23:28.51 | jonpry | looks like these are detected by trying 1.8v and then switching if it fails |
| 23:28.52 | jonpry | maybe my card is 3v but works well enough at 1.8 that everything fails? |
| 23:30.07 | bzo | winmo must be detecting it correctly though if it works fine there |
| 23:32.27 | bzo | have you pulled the wince "dmesg"? it does often report vreg changes |
| 23:33.24 | jonpry | guess i could do that |
| 23:34.31 | jonpry | maybe i'll just switch to go or something. also was thinking droid3 |
| 23:35.47 | bzo | that $30 tmobile deal seems really good |
| 23:39.25 | jonpry | or the 50 |
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| 23:40.19 | bzo | 30 tmo is better for me since I barely talk on the phone |
| 23:41.20 | jonpry | i might have a tmo prepay sim lying around |
| 23:42.04 | bzo | that would only cost you two or three bucks to test it for the day |
| 23:44.52 | jonpry | i've used it before |
| 23:46.01 | bzo | heh, better yet then |
| 23:50.13 | jonpry | porting numbers is such a hassle though |
| 23:54.45 | bzo | yeah, I'm about to switch from Sprint myself. I think I'm going to port my number to google voice and try the forwarding |
