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| 01:57.07 | WisTilt2 | hey arrrghhh, if you're going to be in a testing mood in a bit I have a couple new oc tests to have you run. |
| 01:57.27 | arrrghhh | sure man |
| 01:58.10 | WisTilt2 | dont want to take you away any friday night plans though. going to grab some drinks and dinner and ill be in code mode |
| 01:58.22 | arrrghhh | not planning on going anywhere |
| 01:58.33 | arrrghhh | had a ridiculous day at work... found out i wasn't even supposed to go in today. |
| 01:59.01 | WisTilt2 | damn, could have slept in and done nothing |
| 01:59.07 | arrrghhh | seriously. |
| 01:59.20 | WisTilt2 | ok ill ping you in a bit |
| 01:59.24 | arrrghhh | my boss was thankful tho, there was so much crap that needed to get done cuz my co-workers suck. |
| 01:59.29 | arrrghhh | np, talk to you in a few. |
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| 02:37.37 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: ok its up. run neocore, fps anyone's guess. need dmesg. |
| 02:38.14 | WisTilt2 | i promise not to melt you phone like i did mine last night |
| 02:51.02 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: forgot, also run these tests with acpuclock oc'ing off. need to test this without any of the oc freq table adjusting so we're always using same base freq |
| 03:02.06 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 03:02.11 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:04.32 | WisTilt2 | im going to have you run 2 more after this, all with the same test conditions and dmesg. im pretty sure cdma is using different table than gsm. |
| 03:04.38 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:19.54 | WisTilt2 | gotta love it. at&t and verizon got busted for running a bunch of their cell backhauls in rural area on unlicensed freqs, which isn't illegal, but they were running in the radar spectrum that isn't certified for unlicensed use yet. can't afford licensed backhauls? give me a break. |
| 03:20.48 | arrrghhh | jeez |
| 03:21.39 | arrrghhh | i guess they figured no one would notice in a rural area? |
| 03:21.40 | WisTilt2 | we're a spec of a company compared to them and even we have licensed backhauls just from an interference standpoint. |
| 03:21.51 | arrrghhh | but that's where P2P wireless connections thrive |
| 03:22.01 | arrrghhh | last mile customers, those bastages |
| 03:22.06 | WisTilt2 | yeah crazy |
| 03:22.39 | WisTilt2 | licensed cellular but unlicensed backhauls feeding it makes no sense |
| 03:22.47 | arrrghhh | seriously |
| 03:23.07 | arrrghhh | especially for interference reasons... i remember how bad that was when i worked for that wireless company |
| 03:23.55 | WisTilt2 | we just ordered a licensed 900mbit full duplex backhaul for one of our main sites and it only cost us around 6k and they cant afford that? |
| 03:24.38 | WisTilt2 | guess they're not charging enough jeeze |
| 03:24.59 | arrrghhh | woah |
| 03:25.01 | arrrghhh | 35.6fps |
| 03:25.10 | WisTilt2 | in neocore? |
| 03:25.48 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 03:26.31 | WisTilt2 | still smooth or are you getting any brief pauses? |
| 03:26.34 | d3tul3 | whoa whoa whoa there |
| 03:26.37 | arrrghhh | it looked smooth |
| 03:26.39 | arrrghhh | d3tul3, lol |
| 03:26.43 | d3tul3 | i am a few beers in |
| 03:26.51 | d3tul3 | but damn |
| 03:27.12 | WisTilt2 | me too, few beers and now onto a bottle of wine. engineering fluid i call it, makes for better coding |
| 03:27.14 | arrrghhh | it won't finish the dmesg tho |
| 03:27.14 | arrrghhh | wtf |
| 03:27.55 | WisTilt2 | thats with vsync at 70hz also so 35fps area is as fast as we're ever going to go i believe |
| 03:28.11 | WisTilt2 | wont finish or did it lockup? |
| 03:28.33 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/9t0ts8Q1 |
| 03:28.33 | arrrghhh | got it |
| 03:28.35 | d3tul3 | just vsync changed no oc? |
| 03:28.40 | arrrghhh | i gotta eat tho lest my gf kills me |
| 03:28.42 | arrrghhh | bbiab |
| 03:28.50 | WisTilt2 | lol, no, pretty heavy oc'ing on the gpu and memory |
| 03:29.05 | WisTilt2 | gpu was running at max 90mhz, now its at 250mhz, which is its rating |
| 03:29.33 | WisTilt2 | ok arrrghhh, my son just got here to pickup the generator. brb |
| 03:31.19 | d3tul3 | i meant no voltage adjustments? |
| 03:32.20 | arrrghhh | wow |
| 03:33.10 | d3tul3 | arrrghhh, i really really need you to fire up angry birds on that kernel |
| 03:36.52 | arrrghhh | i'm really fighting the urge to stab you. |
| 03:36.55 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:37.06 | arrrghhh | i guess i have to have some special version? |
| 03:37.12 | arrrghhh | i think i saved rio when it was free |
| 03:37.54 | d3tul3 | i am not if you are aware of this, but birds is the unofficial 3d benchmar, second only to neocore |
| 03:38.03 | arrrghhh | yeayea |
| 03:38.20 | arrrghhh | i gathered from the forums, that Android is nothing without Angry Birds... |
| 03:38.28 | d3tul3 | i actually never play |
| 03:38.35 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:38.48 | arrrghhh | i tried it on the phone, t'was painful |
| 03:38.59 | arrrghhh | then i tried it in the chrome store. still painful, just not slow. |
| 03:39.12 | d3tul3 | i am still on level 1 i just load it up when i play with a new kernel |
| 03:39.22 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:39.59 | d3tul3 | (ok maybe not 1, but certainly somewhere in the first 10...ish) |
| 03:40.10 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 03:40.13 | arrrghhh | so you DO play :P |
| 03:40.30 | d3tul3 | aha so even .39 does not suspend when wifi is on |
| 03:40.35 | d3tul3 | i thought i broke something in 3.1 |
| 03:43.36 | arrrghhh | alright i guess the poop birds installed |
| 03:45.20 | arrrghhh | still seems slow |
| 03:45.34 | d3tul3 | there goes expanding the user base |
| 03:45.50 | arrrghhh | but i guess i don't really know how it should be normally |
| 03:45.57 | arrrghhh | i guess i could boot .39 autobuild and see what poops |
| 03:47.25 | arrrghhh | let's see what quadrant says. |
| 03:48.58 | arrrghhh | wtf |
| 03:49.59 | arrrghhh | 192 for 3d. |
| 03:50.03 | arrrghhh | that's... odd |
| 03:50.49 | arrrghhh | i'm going to watch neocore this time, see if tis' jittery at all |
| 03:51.24 | arrrghhh | uhhh |
| 03:51.26 | arrrghhh | 19.9 fps |
| 03:51.28 | arrrghhh | wha'd i do. |
| 03:51.32 | arrrghhh | i broke it d3tul3 |
| 03:51.36 | d3tul3 | wth |
| 03:51.52 | d3tul3 | i got you on tape saying +35 |
| 03:52.00 | arrrghhh | lol, i saw it |
| 03:52.02 | arrrghhh | i should've taken a picture |
| 03:52.05 | arrrghhh | now i think i'm insane. |
| 03:53.10 | d3tul3 | perhaps your silly card is doing some crazi io still from installing birds |
| 03:53.22 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:53.33 | arrrghhh | i'll run one more and if it's still bad rebootski |
| 03:53.46 | WisTilt2 | ok im back. what happened it neocore slowed down after running birds? |
| 03:53.51 | arrrghhh | i guess |
| 03:53.54 | WisTilt2 | it=did |
| 03:53.56 | arrrghhh | i didn't really change anything |
| 03:54.06 | arrrghhh | and d3tul3 wanted me to run birds |
| 03:54.09 | arrrghhh | kinda ran like poop |
| 03:54.11 | WisTilt2 | i cant type tonight |
| 03:54.16 | arrrghhh | so i ran quadrant, and the scores were low |
| 03:54.23 | arrrghhh | so i re-ran neocore, low there too... |
| 03:54.24 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:54.29 | arrrghhh | that neocore run was 27.5fps |
| 03:54.44 | arrrghhh | i'm guessing the phone is doing wacky things in the bg, wildly effecting the scores. |
| 03:54.53 | d3tul3 | that's a pretty wide distribution |
| 03:54.59 | arrrghhh | or the phone is getting hot |
| 03:54.59 | WisTilt2 | should stay up around 35fps all the time. sounds like something is throttling the clocks at times |
| 03:55.10 | d3tul3 | i think someone with a real phone aka me should try this kernel |
| 03:55.13 | arrrghhh | certainly feels warm |
| 03:55.16 | arrrghhh | not a fireball tho |
| 03:55.21 | arrrghhh | d3tul3, fawk you :P |
| 03:55.36 | arrrghhh | besides, who said you couldn't try it |
| 03:55.39 | d3tul3 | plus i have prior birds playing experience |
| 03:55.41 | d3tul3 | and i can compare |
| 03:55.46 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 03:55.47 | WisTilt2 | yeah it will be much warmer but its still under the safe clock limit for that chip so wont blow up |
| 03:55.54 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:55.59 | arrrghhh | just did another got 27.7 |
| 03:56.24 | d3tul3 | WisTilt2, you mind if me and my rhod400 give this guy a whirl |
| 03:56.25 | WisTilt2 | so would you say this is faster than anything before? |
| 03:56.26 | arrrghhh | crap |
| 03:56.27 | arrrghhh | sound was on. |
| 03:56.35 | d3tul3 | 35.6 must be some sort of a rhod world record |
| 03:56.41 | arrrghhh | media volume was down, so i didn't hear it. |
| 03:56.42 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:56.56 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 sure np. 35 is what it should be all the time with this. now i need to see wth is changing my clocks |
| 03:56.57 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, never seen neocore scores these high. ever. |
| 03:57.10 | d3tul3 | WisTilt2, if you could pm me that link again |
| 03:57.11 | arrrghhh | i'm running another w/o sound |
| 03:57.18 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 ill pm you the link for the kernel |
| 03:57.46 | arrrghhh | boom |
| 03:57.49 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, it was sound |
| 03:57.54 | arrrghhh | that's still a big difference... |
| 03:57.57 | arrrghhh | 35.7 w/o sound |
| 03:57.59 | arrrghhh | 27.7 with |
| 03:58.51 | WisTilt2 | wth. sound should have no affect whatsoever on the gpu. im running the gpu off PLL3 now, which isnt implemented in our normal builds. sound is off another pll |
| 03:59.07 | arrrghhh | hrm. |
| 03:59.12 | arrrghhh | have you tried running with and without sound? |
| 03:59.24 | arrrghhh | 35.8fps, again w/o sound. |
| 04:00.04 | WisTilt2 | yes, only gained a couple fps for me with autobuild. wife just got home and i need to unload car. bb |
| 04:00.12 | arrrghhh | k |
| 04:00.30 | arrrghhh | gonna run again w/sound |
| 04:01.33 | arrrghhh | jeebus. 20.4 |
| 04:01.33 | arrrghhh | wtf |
| 04:01.39 | arrrghhh | imma pull a dmesg |
| 04:02.35 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, dmesg after all these tests --> http://pastebin.com/GVagqZLq |
| 04:04.27 | d3tul3 | never seen neocore this smooth |
| 04:06.30 | d3tul3 | hm smooth it may be, two runs w/o sound, 20.9, 20.8 |
| 04:06.53 | arrrghhh | well that's just plum odd |
| 04:06.59 | arrrghhh | you have the updated egl/gles libs rigth? |
| 04:07.04 | arrrghhh | s/rigth/right/ |
| 04:07.17 | d3tul3 | i have some egl/gles that renders |
| 04:07.42 | d3tul3 | egl from that thread gles from jonpry |
| 04:07.53 | arrrghhh | what thread |
| 04:07.57 | arrrghhh | both should be from sir jonpry |
| 04:08.00 | arrrghhh | AFAIK |
| 04:08.36 | d3tul3 | think he just patched gles |
| 04:08.52 | arrrghhh | damnit |
| 04:08.56 | arrrghhh | md5sum, only way to know |
| 04:09.25 | d3tul3 | 818d90167519c149923145793234f0f6 libEGL.so |
| 04:09.51 | arrrghhh | hrm, never had problems with the daemon on windoze |
| 04:09.59 | d3tul3 | 3c449c5cd2802aea153737d2e6757f7d libGLES_qcom.so |
| 04:10.13 | arrrghhh | i think the USB port on my RHOD is dying a slow death |
| 04:10.47 | arrrghhh | both match. |
| 04:10.50 | arrrghhh | ok... |
| 04:10.53 | arrrghhh | now i really don't get it. |
| 04:10.55 | arrrghhh | are you overclocking? |
| 04:11.02 | d3tul3 | no |
| 04:11.06 | arrrghhh | -__ |
| 04:11.07 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:11.20 | d3tul3 | 19.9 |
| 04:11.25 | arrrghhh | fail. anyhoo... this makes no sense. |
| 04:13.22 | d3tul3 | i kexec-ed perhaps that's holding me back |
| 04:15.27 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 04:15.33 | arrrghhh | yea i rebooted to fix my startup.txt |
| 04:16.37 | d3tul3 | for the record the EGL binary is from here http://android.modaco.com/topic/342526-cyanogenmod-71-rc-released/page__st__200 |
| 04:18.41 | arrrghhh | crazy |
| 04:22.59 | d3tul3 | arrrghhh, which kernel # you running? |
| 04:23.11 | arrrghhh | i think 59 lemme double check |
| 04:23.22 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 04:23.24 | arrrghhh | 59 |
| 04:23.26 | d3tul3 | same here |
| 04:23.31 | d3tul3 | 20.2, 20.8 after reboot |
| 04:23.32 | arrrghhh | did you reboot and it's still slow? |
| 04:23.33 | arrrghhh | wtf |
| 04:26.48 | arrrghhh | i just got 20.9 |
| 04:26.50 | arrrghhh | this is really odd. |
| 04:27.28 | WisTilt2 | i love xmas but hate the wife shopping for every related person we've ever known:( |
| 04:27.38 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 04:27.39 | arrrghhh | that sucks. |
| 04:28.01 | WisTilt2 | so d3tul3 you aren't getting the higher fps in neocore? you both have 400's |
| 04:28.26 | WisTilt2 | what background apps you have running arrrghhh? |
| 04:28.26 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea, mine are back down to 20fps... |
| 04:28.32 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 04:28.38 | arrrghhh | lemme restore system panel |
| 04:28.42 | arrrghhh | i don't have many installed |
| 04:28.58 | arrrghhh | made a new data.img for benchmarking lol |
| 04:29.28 | d3tul3 | don't think apps could account for such wide variations but yeah i am <21fps in 6-7 runs now |
| 04:29.30 | WisTilt2 | whats weird on mine is im at 35fps about 100% of the time but i just ran quadrant and scored 3d at 212, now neocore is consistently only at 20.5-21 |
| 04:29.41 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, hmmm |
| 04:29.58 | arrrghhh | like other 3d apps are keeping some of the juicyness to themselves? |
| 04:30.00 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 did you ever get up in the 30 range at all? |
| 04:30.04 | d3tul3 | no |
| 04:30.12 | arrrghhh | d3tul3, what did you try first 3d-wise |
| 04:30.20 | d3tul3 | nothing apart from bootani |
| 04:30.25 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh how many runs did you get 35 before you ran birds? |
| 04:30.25 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 04:30.27 | arrrghhh | well we all went thru that |
| 04:30.32 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, just one |
| 04:31.06 | d3tul3 | perhaps my silica just can't cut it |
| 04:31.14 | arrrghhh | and i was able to get back to 35fps |
| 04:31.18 | arrrghhh | somehow |
| 04:31.45 | d3tul3 | i do think it looks smoother but that's perhaps beer and placebo talking |
| 04:31.58 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea maybe turn down the throttle a little. i'll take 33fps |
| 04:32.10 | WisTilt2 | something is messing with the clocks but im running off PLL3 for gpu, never implemented afaik so something is clocking down somewhere |
| 04:32.39 | d3tul3 | blame it on acoustic....it's always acoustic |
| 04:32.45 | WisTilt2 | when it cools down see if it will run it again, although it shouldn't be all that warm |
| 04:32.59 | arrrghhh | mine didn't get that warm |
| 04:33.19 | d3tul3 | plugged in over here fairly cool |
| 04:34.38 | arrrghhh | 20.8 |
| 04:34.46 | WisTilt2 | only thing i can think is something is changing one of the divisors somehow, source clock rate is not changing |
| 04:34.46 | arrrghhh | after killing everything i could in syspanel |
| 04:36.29 | WisTilt2 | im glad im not the only one that saw 35, now i need to printk the divisors and see where they are changing |
| 04:37.20 | WisTilt2 | let me have you test these other 2 kernels first. i need to verify a couple more things on cdma |
| 04:38.49 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 can you look in your dmesg on that kernel and tell me what value you have at PLL3, not the value in the table, the one that shows the L values above that |
| 04:39.04 | WisTilt2 | should be either 10 or 45 |
| 04:40.16 | d3tul3 | just a sec rebooting |
| 04:40.45 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh, next kernel is up |
| 04:40.56 | d3tul3 | uh kexec failed, it will be a minute or two |
| 04:41.01 | WisTilt2 | no |
| 04:41.03 | WisTilt2 | np |
| 04:41.16 | WisTilt2 | :) really at fingering tonight |
| 04:41.22 | WisTilt2 | jeeze |
| 04:41.27 | WisTilt2 | fat fingering |
| 04:44.18 | d3tul3 | PLL3: 10 |
| 04:44.37 | WisTilt2 | k thanks. thats what it should be |
| 04:45.43 | WisTilt2 | very odd whats changing. only thing using this clock is gpu and imem so going to be interesting to find |
| 04:47.00 | WisTilt2 | i just realized from arrrghhh's dmesg is you guys on cdma are actually only running the gpu with this kernel at 196mhz not 250. still far from the normal 90mhz |
| 04:48.46 | d3tul3 | yeah pll3 on cdma |
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| 04:53.22 | WisTilt2 | i think arrrghhh's gf must have intervened in his testing. |
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| 04:55.42 | WisTilt2 | hey jonpry:) back in the usa i see |
| 04:57.22 | d3tul3 | i just scored 22.4 on 3.1 |
| 04:57.59 | WisTilt2 | 3.1 have same freq tables as .39? |
| 04:58.01 | d3tul3 | 22.6, i think i may have discovered the secret behind the +22 scores on .35 |
| 04:58.17 | d3tul3 | yeah mach-msm is same as .39 |
| 04:58.50 | d3tul3 | echo "40" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold |
| 04:59.15 | d3tul3 | it's a line in init that fails on our kernels, because that parameter seems to have moved |
| 04:59.16 | WisTilt2 | ok i just found that the divisor is getting changed to 6 by something but dont know what |
| 04:59.50 | WisTilt2 | hmm, that might be the problem. we have ondemand config'd |
| 05:00.00 | d3tul3 | it was at 95, as in it would not scale up the cpu freq unless it was over 95% |
| 05:00.04 | d3tul3 | usage |
| 05:02.47 | d3tul3 | need to change that init line the old parameter location: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold needs ot be updated to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold |
| 05:03.20 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sorry... i'm actually doing some work. getting ready to cut a bunch of groups to the new call center tech. |
| 05:03.37 | WisTilt2 | sounds like fun |
| 05:04.16 | arrrghhh | yea... such is my life :P |
| 05:04.47 | d3tul3 | 23.1, i am happy |
| 05:04.49 | arrrghhh | just working with an engineer who is trying to squash some odd bugs |
| 05:05.21 | arrrghhh | kinda sounds like what i do here all the time... |
| 05:05.24 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 05:06.47 | d3tul3 | phone feels snappier... |
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| 05:12.42 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 you changed the init and got 23.1 on 3.1 or on the test kernel? |
| 05:14.16 | d3tul3 | directly echoed 23.1 on 3.1 |
| 05:27.56 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, booting newest kernel now |
| 05:28.50 | WisTilt2 | ok. this one and 1 more merci' |
| 05:29.15 | arrrghhh | np |
| 05:29.25 | arrrghhh | run neocore, gloat over score, then dmesg? |
| 05:29.49 | arrrghhh | d3tul3, whose phone is the real phone now? :P |
| 05:30.45 | arrrghhh | i wonder if my sd is dying tho |
| 05:30.58 | arrrghhh | i can't kexec/reboot/shutdown anymore |
| 05:31.01 | arrrghhh | always hangs |
| 05:32.04 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh yes on dmesg |
| 05:32.21 | arrrghhh | what, no gloating about the score? |
| 05:32.37 | WisTilt2 | lol yeah if its back above 30fps like it should be |
| 05:33.30 | arrrghhh | shite |
| 05:33.32 | arrrghhh | 21.1 |
| 05:33.44 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 im only getting 2fps gain changing that up threshold |
| 05:33.48 | arrrghhh | it looks the same |
| 05:33.58 | arrrghhh | which i find odd |
| 05:34.05 | arrrghhh | i can't tell if it's playing faster/slower |
| 05:34.12 | WisTilt2 | thats ok arrrghhh, this and the next one are using different pll's, just verifying something on cdma |
| 05:34.25 | d3tul3 | WisTilt2, yeah that's what I got ~2fps ... gain of 10% not bad....however |
| 05:34.31 | d3tul3 | this should also affect overall operation |
| 05:34.31 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, np. getting dmesg now |
| 05:35.00 | WisTilt2 | last kernel up |
| 05:35.04 | WisTilt2 | k on dmesg |
| 05:35.33 | WisTilt2 | i see whats happening with it going back to lower speed but really dont know whats changing it yet |
| 05:35.45 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/ZsUUywGF |
| 05:37.26 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh with this kernel do the same thing then if you could oc to 614400 and check it and dmesg. |
| 05:37.54 | arrrghhh | heh, kexec worked that time. hooray |
| 05:38.03 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 05:38.28 | WisTilt2 | are you running kexec via adb? |
| 05:39.24 | d3tul3 | kexec is built in the powermenu these days |
| 05:39.52 | WisTilt2 | which image, i guess i have one before that. i think im running emwe's 11/19 one still |
| 05:46.50 | WisTilt2 | whoa. this kernel im back to 35fps |
| 05:47.23 | WisTilt2 | even after running quadrant and echo to upthreshold |
| 05:47.28 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 05:47.38 | arrrghhh | i think emwe's 11/19 has kexec in the menu |
| 05:47.41 | arrrghhh | that's the one i'm on |
| 05:47.47 | arrrghhh | and it has kexec |
| 05:47.49 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 05:48.05 | WisTilt2 | nope, maybe i have an even earlier one, this one is missing it |
| 05:48.06 | arrrghhh | ok appears to be booting now |
| 05:48.13 | arrrghhh | kexec "worked", but i got a kernel panic. |
| 05:48.18 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 05:48.24 | arrrghhh | i can link you to it 1 sec |
| 05:48.33 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 set me up |
| 05:48.39 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 05:48.40 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 05:48.51 | WisTilt2 | im about to move that one over now |
| 05:48.56 | arrrghhh | emwe needs to churn out another with these new libs :D |
| 05:49.30 | WisTilt2 | yeah consistent 35fps now but when i set up_threshold back to 95 i drop to 24.5 |
| 05:49.49 | arrrghhh | what are you getting in quadrant? |
| 05:49.54 | arrrghhh | fer 3d |
| 05:50.04 | WisTilt2 | running 3d only right now |
| 05:50.07 | arrrghhh | as jonpry says, that's all that matters now |
| 05:50.08 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 05:50.09 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 05:50.14 | arrrghhh | i'm up, waiting for it to settle |
| 05:50.53 | d3tul3 | k, i think we need to patch initial up_treshold value in the ondemand driver from 95 to something more sane |
| 05:50.55 | WisTilt2 | got crap in quadrant, 192 but getting 35fps in neocore |
| 05:51.03 | arrrghhh | weird |
| 05:51.13 | arrrghhh | benchmarks are kinda maddening. |
| 05:51.21 | arrrghhh | s/kinda/extremely/ |
| 05:51.46 | WisTilt2 | neocore 35fps every time right now |
| 05:52.09 | arrrghhh | i think i'm 1 kernel behind |
| 05:52.20 | arrrghhh | gonna finish this neocore run, get you a dmesg and go for that last kernel |
| 05:52.43 | WisTilt2 | im on 59 right now |
| 05:52.49 | arrrghhh | 21fps |
| 05:53.03 | arrrghhh | 59 |
| 05:53.09 | arrrghhh | i've been on 59 for a few kernels |
| 05:53.25 | WisTilt2 | ok now neocore went down to 23 after running quadrant a couple times. this is frustrating |
| 05:55.03 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/XqS1PDuC |
| 05:55.09 | arrrghhh | going to last kernel |
| 05:55.37 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 is that threshold for determining when to go to 100%? 95 seems pretty high |
| 05:56.00 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh hang on. 59 should be last one unless i didnt save change before i built this |
| 05:56.20 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, last kernel was built 19:36? |
| 05:56.53 | WisTilt2 | hmm let me see what i did |
| 05:56.58 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 05:58.14 | d3tul3 | WisTilt2, from what I understand that threshold is determining when to scale up to the next available frequency, as in it needs to run at +95% before it increases frequency |
| 05:58.35 | d3tul3 | 95 seems unreasonable |
| 05:59.17 | WisTilt2 | lol, 21:35 was when i made last change but uploaded without building ha |
| 05:59.30 | arrrghhh | d'oh |
| 05:59.41 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 yeah i'd think more like 50 |
| 05:59.41 | d3tul3 | "up_threshold - This defines what the average CPU usage between the samplings of 'sampling_rate' needs to be for the kernel to make a decision on whether or not it should increase the frequency. For example when it is set to its default value of '80' it means that between the checking intervals the CPU needs to be on average more than 80% in use to then decide that the CPU frequency needs to be increased. " |
| 06:00.06 | WisTilt2 | i say go big when you are actually using it at the time |
| 06:00.18 | d3tul3 | well init currently tries to set it at 40 |
| 06:00.28 | d3tul3 | there's couple of ways we could go about doing this |
| 06:00.40 | d3tul3 | 1. patch init to echo to this new location as well |
| 06:00.48 | WisTilt2 | which should be good but in the wrong place as you discovered |
| 06:00.49 | d3tul3 | it seems the old location is deprecated and on its way out |
| 06:00.54 | d3tul3 | so this might not be a bad idea |
| 06:01.33 | d3tul3 | 2. patch the ondemand driver in the kernel -> this is really painless it's just chainging a constant, don't see any downside |
| 06:02.02 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh correct kernel is up now |
| 06:02.13 | arrrghhh | k |
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| 06:03.30 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 latter sounds good for now until userland is fixed |
| 06:03.49 | d3tul3 | alright i'll push it out then |
| 06:04.27 | WisTilt2 | anyone playing with .39 should be using gb anyway imo |
| 06:04.36 | arrrghhh | hhe |
| 06:04.38 | arrrghhh | heh* |
| 06:04.40 | arrrghhh | and acoustic :P |
| 06:04.47 | WisTilt2 | yep |
| 06:04.47 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 06:04.52 | arrrghhh | kernel panic again on kexec |
| 06:04.58 | arrrghhh | sad |
| 06:05.38 | WisTilt2 | still better than winmo every boot |
| 06:06.00 | arrrghhh | what, a kernel panic? lol |
| 06:06.39 | WisTilt2 | kexec working more often than not i meant |
| 06:06.58 | WisTilt2 | gain more time testing even with occasional panics |
| 06:08.29 | WisTilt2 | 24.5fps those 2 runs |
| 06:09.30 | arrrghhh | i wish neocore would show fps as it's running |
| 06:09.41 | arrrghhh | it always looks smooth tho |
| 06:10.01 | WisTilt2 | yeah i think the vsync 75hz smooths it out |
| 06:10.06 | arrrghhh | didn't have textures until we replaced those binaries |
| 06:10.08 | arrrghhh | 75? |
| 06:10.13 | arrrghhh | i thought 70 was maz |
| 06:10.15 | WisTilt2 | 70 |
| 06:10.18 | arrrghhh | s/maz/max/ |
| 06:10.18 | WisTilt2 | fat fingers |
| 06:10.20 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 06:10.22 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 06:10.25 | arrrghhh | those are really fat |
| 06:10.29 | arrrghhh | from 0 to 5 :P |
| 06:10.30 | WisTilt2 | too much drinking i guess |
| 06:10.33 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 06:10.36 | arrrghhh | fair enough. |
| 06:10.38 | WisTilt2 | fat brain |
| 06:13.27 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:13.31 | arrrghhh | 19.2fps |
| 06:13.33 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 i think you're right about being snappier with threshold at 40. |
| 06:13.50 | WisTilt2 | you're still not oc'd right? |
| 06:13.54 | arrrghhh | nope |
| 06:14.01 | arrrghhh | you want dmseg? |
| 06:14.03 | arrrghhh | er |
| 06:14.05 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 06:14.08 | WisTilt2 | me either. that seems low. yes dmesg |
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| 06:16.48 | arrrghhh | bzo, welcome to the party |
| 06:16.57 | WisTilt2 | 24.5fps is consistent with this one |
| 06:16.59 | WisTilt2 | hey bzo |
| 06:17.06 | bzo | another exciting night at club htc-linux, eh? |
| 06:17.25 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:17.29 | WisTilt2 | booze, women, what else could you ask for |
| 06:17.30 | arrrghhh | 21.3 |
| 06:17.54 | WisTilt2 | ok now oc to 614mhz and see if that changes at all |
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| 06:18.08 | WisTilt2 | wow got 25.2 that time |
| 06:18.16 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 06:18.25 | WisTilt2 | you have sound on or off? |
| 06:18.29 | arrrghhh | off |
| 06:18.36 | arrrghhh | 21.5 |
| 06:18.46 | WisTilt2 | i got 25.2 with it on, 24.5 off |
| 06:18.55 | bzo | speaking of sound this acoustic stuff sure is fragile |
| 06:19.01 | arrrghhh | lolwut |
| 06:19.05 | bzo | didn't realize sounds was broken on mine for days or weeks |
| 06:19.26 | bzo | until my wife tried to call me like 5 times this morning and still couldn't hear when answering, lol |
| 06:19.40 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 06:20.21 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, 20.8 with sound |
| 06:20.27 | WisTilt2 | i will say though i use my phone a lot, mainly calls, and ive not had any audio problems at all. had a reboot during a call 1 time recently but i was running a heavy oc kernel at the time |
| 06:20.48 | bzo | do we rely on the user.conf to set perms on htc_acoustic_wince? |
| 06:20.55 | d3tul3 | no |
| 06:21.00 | arrrghhh | bzo, yea i think emwe was changing how the ril interacted with the system. it was butting heads with userland evidently |
| 06:21.16 | arrrghhh | muting the mic when it shouldn't for example |
| 06:21.30 | bzo | well, mine was completely broke due to something I tweaked |
| 06:21.36 | arrrghhh | not sure if that solved all the problems |
| 06:21.38 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 06:21.50 | arrrghhh | you don't know what tho? heh |
| 06:22.05 | bzo | htc_acoustic_wince perms were not being set |
| 06:22.13 | d3tul3 | they are in init |
| 06:22.15 | d3tul3 | rootfs |
| 06:22.21 | d3tul3 | init.ginger* |
| 06:22.29 | bzo | is it in the autobuild rootfs? |
| 06:22.34 | d3tul3 | yes |
| 06:23.08 | bzo | hmm, anyways, problem cleared up after I switched to emwe's rootfs |
| 06:23.57 | bzo | d3tul3: that's a good find on the ondemand setting, seems noticeable faster |
| 06:24.35 | d3tul3 | i've seen that error line in the flying text perhaps a hundred times now |
| 06:25.16 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, http://pastebin.com/vbv5wrf5 |
| 06:25.20 | arrrghhh | do you want me to try OC? |
| 06:25.26 | bzo | it is remarkable though that even with the broken ondemand setting, .39 is faster than .27 |
| 06:25.44 | WisTilt2 | yes plz |
| 06:26.00 | d3tul3 | bzo i hear you want to be the third person on this planet to try 3.1 on a htc rhodium |
| 06:26.16 | bzo | didn't I try it already? |
| 06:26.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:26.30 | d3tul3 | er that may hav ebeen 3.0.9 |
| 06:26.36 | d3tul3 | this is a new branch |
| 06:27.10 | bzo | oh, right, that was right before my phones started going crazy |
| 06:27.27 | d3tul3 | well yeah, bleeding edge and all |
| 06:27.46 | bzo | well, 3.0 wasn't to blame, just an odd coincidence |
| 06:28.09 | d3tul3 | can't figure it out wifi is working for me with about half of the wifi patches in .39 |
| 06:28.23 | bzo | I really ought to keep a log of what changes I do so I can better figure out when the phone breaks |
| 06:28.55 | arrrghhh | d3tul3, i wouldn't argue about that. |
| 06:30.01 | bzo | I've been trying to track down battery hogs, and I think I've narrowed down my problem to the email app |
| 06:30.17 | bzo | when you lose connection, but not signal (i.e. white vs green) |
| 06:30.33 | bzo | the email app goes crazy and keeps trying - draining the batt |
| 06:30.34 | d3tul3 | so er white just means that it's not connected to the google servers right? |
| 06:30.54 | bzo | I usually can't connect to anything with white |
| 06:31.08 | bzo | I think that's equivalent to a network cable being plugged in |
| 06:31.18 | bzo | while green is like having a gateway you can get out of |
| 06:31.38 | d3tul3 | hm |
| 06:31.47 | d3tul3 | usually when i have white signal bars |
| 06:31.50 | d3tul3 | i just fire up market |
| 06:31.51 | d3tul3 | or gmail |
| 06:32.09 | d3tul3 | and i am pretty sure i can browse on white signal bars |
| 06:32.40 | WisTilt2 | same here |
| 06:33.20 | arrrghhh | yea, the green isn't definitive |
| 06:33.23 | bzo | my signal is marginal where I am so, I guess it has some sort of connectivity when white, but often doesn't work |
| 06:33.30 | arrrghhh | that's what it is supposed to indicate |
| 06:33.41 | arrrghhh | connectivity to the 'net |
| 06:33.46 | arrrghhh | but i guess it's just to google |
| 06:33.54 | arrrghhh | which, again isn't entirely true seemingly lol |
| 06:34.07 | bzo | google is a pretty good proxy for connectivity |
| 06:34.20 | bzo | I don't think it's ever been inaccessible for me |
| 06:34.26 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 06:38.03 | WisTilt2 | d3tul3 new libs arent in this image? |
| 06:38.15 | arrrghhh | no |
| 06:38.29 | bzo | d3tul3: i wonder if the ondemand setting makes an extra big difference in our devices since all the I/O is done by the cpu, as opposed to accelerated or even dma |
| 06:38.32 | arrrghhh | assuming it's just the one from emwe |
| 06:38.47 | WisTilt2 | weird without textures. 35.6fps, .6 higher than with at my best |
| 06:39.09 | arrrghhh | but missing textures? |
| 06:39.34 | d3tul3 | WisTilt2, no new binaries |
| 06:39.35 | WisTilt2 | 35.6 without yes. was getting 35 with them |
| 06:39.36 | arrrghhh | we were getting 28 i think w/o textures |
| 06:39.45 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 06:39.49 | arrrghhh | i just got 36.3 |
| 06:39.51 | d3tul3 | arrrghhh, that's my own immage i feel a little bad about secondhanding emwe's images |
| 06:39.52 | WisTilt2 | on kernel #60 |
| 06:40.16 | arrrghhh | d3tul3, i see |
| 06:42.26 | d3tul3 | bzo, no idea, this dicussion must have taken place at some point for .27 no? i figure some elder statsmen must have decided ondemand is the way to go |
| 06:42.56 | arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/npNZX2YH <---- 614 oc WisTilt2 |
| 06:43.10 | WisTilt2 | is this without texture? |
| 06:43.11 | arrrghhh | scored 36.3, all textures. was smooth. |
| 06:43.16 | WisTilt2 | nice |
| 06:43.21 | arrrghhh | no sound |
| 06:43.27 | bzo | d3tul3: the choice of governor was pretty ad hoc I think |
| 06:43.29 | WisTilt2 | thats on kernel #60? |
| 06:43.33 | arrrghhh | yessir |
| 06:43.35 | bzo | though I think .27 ended up with BFS |
| 06:43.36 | WisTilt2 | very nice |
| 06:46.53 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh you still 35+fps after running quadrant? |
| 06:47.58 | arrrghhh | lets see |
| 06:48.26 | WisTilt2 | we need to add memory oc to this kernel the way it is right now |
| 06:48.39 | WisTilt2 | only have gpu oc'd |
| 06:48.46 | arrrghhh | the royal we i'm sure |
| 06:48.47 | WisTilt2 | and cpu via cmd line of course |
| 06:49.05 | arrrghhh | i won't complain :D |
| 06:49.16 | arrrghhh | 3d is 195 in quadrant |
| 06:49.16 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 06:50.16 | arrrghhh | we'll see what neocore is at |
| 06:50.48 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:50.52 | arrrghhh | 18.1fps |
| 06:51.03 | WisTilt2 | after getting 36.3 with same kernel? |
| 06:51.05 | arrrghhh | no sound |
| 06:51.06 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 06:51.22 | WisTilt2 | something still changing divisors in gpu then |
| 06:52.51 | d3tul3 | up_threshold adjustment is in the .39 tree, goodnight everyone |
| 06:53.01 | WisTilt2 | nite d3tul3. great find |
| 06:53.07 | arrrghhh | d3tul3, g'n... |
| 06:53.36 | arrrghhh | 17.3 w/sound |
| 06:55.27 | WisTilt2 | did you try increasing the threshold? |
| 06:55.51 | arrrghhh | i did not |
| 06:55.54 | arrrghhh | i just have to echo something? |
| 06:56.14 | WisTilt2 | echo 40 >/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold |
| 06:56.27 | WisTilt2 | then run it. should gain about 2fps |
| 06:56.43 | arrrghhh | k |
| 06:58.00 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 06:58.02 | arrrghhh | 21.4 |
| 06:58.14 | arrrghhh | from 18.1 |
| 06:59.08 | WisTilt2 | dont see how you can be at 36 then drop again. going to have to do a methodical trace on these divisors, thats about all it can be since im using a pll that the system shouldn't be changing at all |
| 07:00.15 | WisTilt2 | bzo: you know of anything that is even using PLL3? |
| 07:00.37 | bzo | no, wasn't even sure it was usable |
| 07:00.52 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 07:00.54 | WisTilt2 | im using it in this kernel to clock the gpu |
| 07:01.20 | WisTilt2 | i didnt see anything using it and figured it was just never implemented for any purpose |
| 07:02.36 | bzo | if it works for the gpu, guess it must be usable |
| 07:03.15 | bzo | you may need to keep refreshing the settings for it though, just like when we OC pll2 |
| 07:03.20 | WisTilt2 | just clocks backup pll1 as it is called in the docs |
| 07:03.38 | bzo | the a9 will keep setting to what it thinks the default value should be, particularly in sleep |
| 07:04.05 | bzo | arrrghhh: are you letting the phone sleep between any tests? |
| 07:04.06 | WisTilt2 | that's possible. something is changing its divisor anywhere from 2-6 |
| 07:05.02 | bzo | WisTilt2: you can't get a good clock off pll1 for the gpu? |
| 07:05.34 | arrrghhh | bzo, it's usually plugged in |
| 07:06.03 | bzo | and you have the sleep disabled when plugged in? |
| 07:06.42 | WisTilt2 | not well enough from the few tests i did. chip is rated at 250mhz and the unmodified system is only running gpu at around 90mhz |
| 07:06.59 | WisTilt2 | pll1 is what it uses by default btw |
| 07:07.13 | WisTilt2 | at least on our standard kernel |
| 07:07.29 | bzo | you can't just change the divisor it is using with pll1? like 960/4? |
| 07:07.53 | bzo | or you could run it 1:1 with pll0 |
| 07:09.04 | WisTilt2 | yes but ondemand doesnt keep it at that rate even under load |
| 07:09.26 | WisTilt2 | i used pll3 because it stays at same rate since nothing uses it |
| 07:10.00 | bzo | the pll rates never change, only the divisors whatever is connected to it are |
| 07:10.50 | WisTilt2 | hmm, ok then thats whats happening even with pll3. the divisors are for the gpu so i guess ondemand is whats changing that? |
| 07:11.35 | WisTilt2 | what if i disable ondemand in config? that will keep everything at same rate to whatever i have it set to |
| 07:11.59 | bzo | I don't think ondemand knows anything about the gpu or it's divisors |
| 07:12.16 | bzo | the a9 must be changing based on some condition |
| 07:12.50 | bzo | either that, or the gpu clock is tied to another clock that acpuclock changes |
| 07:12.57 | bzo | like the ahb bus? |
| 07:13.04 | WisTilt2 | its on axi |
| 07:13.12 | WisTilt2 | ahb is on a9 |
| 07:13.32 | WisTilt2 | but what you're saying about acpuclock changes thats what appears to be happening |
| 07:14.56 | bzo | acpuclock attempts to change the ahb clk rate based on the table setting |
| 07:15.04 | WisTilt2 | well we know gpu oc works, just need to figure out how to stop whatever is changing divisors for it |
| 07:15.05 | bzo | whether it actually does so is unknown |
| 07:15.26 | WisTilt2 | probably causing a9 to make these other changes |
| 07:15.56 | bzo | maybe you should try refreshing the gpu divisor after ever rate change in acpuclock? |
| 07:16.56 | WisTilt2 | yeah that sounds like a good first shot. ive got to hit the sack though. got our toy drive tomorrow and i need to be there at 6am |
| 07:17.05 | WisTilt2 | catch you later guys |
| 07:17.12 | bzo | gn |
| 07:17.19 | bzo | I'm out as well |
| 07:17.25 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 07:17.32 | arrrghhh | cya guys |
| 07:17.37 | WisTilt2 | thanks again for tests arrrghhh:) |
| 07:17.39 | bzo | cya |
| 07:17.42 | arrrghhh | np thank you |
| 07:17.46 | WisTilt2 | later all |
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| 14:03.38 | dazdingo745 | i have htc desire. i want ton know wich hboot is better, and wich radio is better ? |
| 14:03.41 | dazdingo745 | thank you |
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