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| 02:44.29 | mei_ | hi, can INT_SDC2_0 irq be watched by haret when SD card activity presents? |
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| 03:12.23 | tmzt_ | mei_: any memory location can be watches as far as I remember |
| 03:14.57 | mei_ | Thanks again tmzt! I'm debugging mmc detection problem for htc mega. And find there is no INT_SDC2_0|1 irq present. So mmc command always timeout and cannot be completed. |
| 03:15.27 | mei_ | I doubt my INT_SDC2_0 number is wrong |
| 03:15.45 | mei_ | i'm using msm7x00 definitions |
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| 12:54.02 | helicAWAY | GlemSom,what toolchain do you use for .35,2010.9? |
| 12:54.26 | GlemSom | naah, think it's 2009 someting... |
| 12:55.05 | helicopter88 | thank you... |
| 12:55.20 | GlemSom | I was wrong... It's arm-2010.09 |
| 12:55.34 | helicopter88 | k,the one i have |
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| 12:57.47 | helicopter88 | thank you,again |
| 12:58.39 | GlemSom | When I launch the new site - I will be prepared for 2011.03... |
| 12:58.45 | GlemSom | :) |
| 12:59.58 | helicopter88 | there's the alignment bug with 2011,right? |
| 13:00.41 | GlemSom | As I recall it, it was actually intented... Though, it breaks the CURRENT code yes... |
| 13:01.46 | helicopter88 | I'll keep using 2010.9 |
| 13:01.58 | helicopter88 | unless there are improvements with 2011.3 |
| 13:02.45 | GlemSom | I think emwe is doing some tests weather or not the "new" allignment is better.. |
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| 13:41.31 | zeus | howz your .35 going marc ? |
| 13:51.40 | marc1706 | not much progress there, unfortunately |
| 13:52.04 | marc1706 | I'm currently trying to find out why we get a 15 mA battery drain in standby |
| 13:55.05 | marc1706 | anyone has seen that one before? PM: Device alarm failed to suspend: error -16 |
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| 14:42.36 | zeus | marc, have you tried the .35 branch on caf ? they seem to have some support for qsd8k already |
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| 15:13.43 | marc1706 | zeus: link? |
| 15:14.11 | zeus | https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/ |
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| 15:14.45 | zeus | but their code management is very bad |
| 15:15.08 | zeus | you'll find a ton of branches and 99% of them wont even compile |
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| 15:43.59 | zeus | Cotulla: ping |
| 15:44.19 | zeus | apt: hello |
| 15:44.19 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 15:45.05 | zeus | -_____-----___----------_- |
| 15:45.56 | zeus | anyone knows what sdbank is the sdcard on in htc leo ? |
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| 15:58.09 | Cotulla | wall near waits u |
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| 16:09.10 | arrrghhh | [acl], yo |
| 16:09.53 | Cotulla | hi dood :) |
| 16:11.13 | arrrghhh | what's up Cotulla |
| 16:11.38 | Cotulla | tired |
| 16:11.42 | Cotulla | :( |
| 16:11.58 | Cotulla | had a small sport run |
| 16:12.19 | Cotulla | u? |
| 16:13.59 | arrrghhh | slept in late today |
| 16:14.16 | arrrghhh | watchin dirty jobs |
| 16:14.24 | arrrghhh | hoping acl did an OMGB release :P |
| 16:14.26 | Cotulla | dirty? |
| 16:14.38 | Cotulla | but ur today isn't my today |
| 16:14.55 | Cotulla | I guess u have only 11:14 now? |
| 16:15.22 | arrrghhh | 10:15, close. |
| 16:15.32 | Cotulla | 10 hours difference |
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| 16:20.10 | arrrghhh | so it's still Sunday for you |
| 16:20.21 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 16:20.22 | Cotulla | 20:20 |
| 16:20.46 | Cotulla | I know future |
| 16:20.52 | Cotulla | :P |
| 16:21.29 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 16:21.31 | arrrghhh | how is the future |
| 16:21.56 | Cotulla | bad |
| 16:21.57 | Cotulla | :( |
| 16:22.01 | Cotulla | dark and cold :( |
| 16:22.17 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 16:22.29 | arrrghhh | it was pretty gloomy here yesterday, but today is better. |
| 17:14.12 | Cotulla | arrrghhh, here? |
| 17:14.27 | arrrghhh | sure |
| 17:14.57 | Cotulla | WLAN is working for RHO_W in .35? |
| 17:15.05 | arrrghhh | i don't think so no. |
| 17:15.11 | Cotulla | oh |
| 17:15.16 | Cotulla | what about other kernels? |
| 17:15.19 | arrrghhh | oh yhea |
| 17:15.20 | Cotulla | .27 works, right? |
| 17:15.20 | arrrghhh | yea* |
| 17:15.21 | arrrghhh | .27 |
| 17:15.22 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 17:15.30 | Cotulla | but 35 - no? |
| 17:15.31 | arrrghhh | and jonpry got it working in .39 |
| 17:15.34 | arrrghhh | used some different firmware |
| 17:15.39 | Cotulla | hm intersting |
| 17:15.39 | arrrghhh | probably would work for .35 |
| 17:15.55 | Cotulla | are there some hard issues ? |
| 17:16.23 | arrrghhh | sure? |
| 17:16.51 | Cotulla | I means jonpry spent a lot of time to bring it up in 39? |
| 17:17.12 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 17:17.19 | Cotulla | and where was a problem? |
| 17:17.20 | Cotulla | in FW? |
| 17:17.24 | arrrghhh | i couldn't get it working, i suspect user error |
| 17:17.26 | arrrghhh | yep |
| 17:17.36 | Cotulla | ohh |
| 17:17.46 | Cotulla | BT & WLAN never works "out of box" in Android :D |
| 17:17.56 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 17:17.56 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 17:18.07 | Cotulla | okay thanks |
| 17:18.28 | arrrghhh | sure |
| 17:19.01 | Cotulla | where is jonpry's .39? |
| 17:20.19 | arrrghhh | i assume you mean the source |
| 17:20.21 | arrrghhh | 1 sec |
| 17:21.00 | Cotulla | what about 3.0.0 |
| 17:21.01 | Cotulla | ? |
| 17:21.05 | Cotulla | wlan works there? |
| 17:21.08 | arrrghhh | he was working on that too |
| 17:21.10 | arrrghhh | i don't know TBH |
| 17:21.21 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod |
| 17:21.27 | arrrghhh | .39 & 3.0 |
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| 17:42.44 | zeus | cotulla |
| 17:42.57 | zeus | ping |
| 17:43.05 | zeus | 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:44.27 | Cotulla | wall waits u |
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| 17:47.50 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], hi |
| 17:48.05 | GNUtoo | hi Cotulla |
| 17:48.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: hi |
| 17:48.30 | Cotulla | hi GNUtoo |
| 17:48.34 | Cotulla | hi Alex |
| 17:48.50 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], did I told you the result of the htcdream with .37? |
| 17:49.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: not sure |
| 17:49.15 | GNUtoo | basically I succedded to boot it |
| 17:49.35 | GNUtoo | but touchscreen,keyboard and it seem every input that depend on gpio IRQ doesn't work |
| 17:49.53 | GNUtoo | so I imported mainline gpio driver but the result is not so good |
| 17:50.13 | GNUtoo | like if I remember well touchscreen moved but didn't click or something like that |
| 17:50.25 | GNUtoo | or it didn't move at all and I had only trackball |
| 17:50.32 | GNUtoo | I must look agina |
| 17:50.35 | GNUtoo | *again |
| 17:50.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. 'basically', i have 3.1 running on kovsky. with gpio, i2c, touch, keypad, mmc. but 1. usb does not work (i have ported msm hsusb, but it does not show in lsusb) and 2. there are some issues with smd and rpc so i need to rewrite them a bit because there's a race condition somewhere |
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| 17:51.27 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:51.42 | GNUtoo | that's good |
| 17:51.46 | Cotulla | 3.1? |
| 17:51.49 | Cotulla | u fast! |
| 17:51.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can steal mmc and gpio from my tree. basically, you need to implement gpiomux for msm7200A |
| 17:51.53 | GNUtoo | at least you can interact with it |
| 17:52.05 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:52.19 | zeus | 3.0.1 or 3.1 ? |
| 17:52.21 | GNUtoo | or I could make a board file from your tree? |
| 17:52.26 | GNUtoo | and use your tree? |
| 17:52.37 | GNUtoo | if I've the time to do it of course |
| 17:52.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: you'll need your own gpiomux via rpc. we're not using rpc for gpio because it is not supported on wince |
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| 17:53.14 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:53.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: well, i didn't want to get into messing with 3.1 but I'm unable to track down suspend issues on 35. it hangs when wifi driver is loaded. i suppose that may be because wifi and sdio drivers are backported from 3.0 |
| 17:53.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeus: 3.1 |
| 17:53.47 | Cotulla | ok |
| 17:54.01 | Cotulla | why not just turn on logging and take into a problem? |
| 17:54.24 | zeus | i read somewhere that 3.1 also removes the big kernel locks and some performance in store for embedded devices, is that right ? |
| 17:54.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | zeus: BKL was removed in .38 |
| 17:54.50 | GNUtoo | indeed .ioctl_unlocked |
| 17:54.51 | Cotulla | and what is BKL? |
| 17:54.56 | GNUtoo | big kernel lock |
| 17:55.01 | zeus | two threads need 2 mutex lock |
| 17:55.03 | Cotulla | no, where it's used and etc |
| 17:55.10 | zeus | 1 thread get 1 lock, 2nd get other lock |
| 17:55.13 | zeus | both wait forever |
| 17:55.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: well, i tried to turn logging everywhere. basically, late_resume handlers are not called. the panel won't unblank. if i unblank it manually, it won't switch to android from console. if i switch manually, it will hang when i turn wifi power again or on subsequent suspends |
| 17:55.17 | zeus | for lock to release |
| 17:55.34 | Cotulla | Alex, so issue that it halts |
| 17:55.35 | Cotulla | inside |
| 17:55.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: it is not used nowadays but in the past it was used somewhere in console, vfs and a bit in v4l2 |
| 17:56.18 | Cotulla | okay |
| 17:56.32 | Cotulla | wait u about BKL? |
| 17:57.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yes, BKL was used in vfs. but that does not matter to us |
| 17:57.37 | Cotulla | what kind of operations it protects? |
| 17:57.56 | zeus | it is a situation, it does not protect |
| 17:58.03 | zeus | it is evil |
| 17:58.07 | zeus | like apt |
| 17:58.18 | Cotulla | ;p; |
| 17:58.21 | Cotulla | lol |
| 17:58.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | not sure. BKL was just a remnant of ancient linux before SMP was introduced. so it got replaced with smaller separate locks |
| 17:59.14 | Cotulla | so it's some kind of legend? everyone think that it's good, but nobody exactly know that it is :) |
| 17:59.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is just a global kernel lock that was used in many places like tty. so when you switched consoles or something in VFS needed locking, the whole kernel got locked |
| 18:00.23 | Cotulla | hm, why there one global lock? |
| 18:00.26 | zeus | in smp, if two kernel threads required 2 of the same mutex locks but in different order, there was a probability that one thread would get lock a and other thread would get lock b, then thread 1 will wait forever for thread 2 to unlock the lock b but for that to happen, thread 1 should give up lock a, so it locks up the whole thing |
| 18:00.53 | zeus | that is what i know atleast, lol |
| 18:00.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: because that code was written before SMP systems were supported. this code is removed now since linux .38 |
| 18:01.24 | Cotulla | no, I means why not use several critical sections / mutexes for each subsystem? |
| 18:01.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | because people are lazy |
| 18:01.44 | zeus | alex, i think they introduced lock timeouts and some other mechanism, but did not remove it completely for sure. |
| 18:01.48 | Cotulla | okay it |
| 18:01.51 | Cotulla | 's clear now :D |
| 18:02.18 | Cotulla | in CE there separate critical sections for all tasks/subsystems |
| 18:02.44 | zeus | microsoft is managed closed source, linux is like a tornado |
| 18:03.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | in linux nowadays too.. but early versions of linux was before CE.. and BSD still has global locks |
| 18:03.29 | zeus | cotulla |
| 18:03.30 | Cotulla | but it's fucking bad |
| 18:03.32 | zeus | can i have |
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| 18:03.47 | zeus | some secret info from you ? |
| 18:03.49 | Cotulla | so they instead of improving global things, prefer doing some lalala |
| 18:04.02 | Cotulla | zeus ofcourse no :) |
| 18:04.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: but they have removed it. what's the problem |
| 18:04.19 | Cotulla | no problem |
| 18:04.35 | Cotulla | but a bit late ;) |
| 18:04.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | better late then never |
| 18:04.49 | Cotulla | right! |
| 18:05.15 | zeus | but, weren't multi threaded, multi core computing present back in the 90s ? |
| 18:06.05 | zeus | cotulla: what if i give you some good candies ? even then no secret info ? :"( |
| 18:06.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | sure they were. but in the beginning linux was i386 only and a hobby project. it was not until late 90s that it got corporate support |
| 18:06.29 | Cotulla | zeus stop trolling |
| 18:06.37 | zeus | trolling is fun |
| 18:06.43 | zeus | :] |
| 18:06.46 | Cotulla | but it's not working for me |
| 18:06.54 | zeus | ;9 |
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| 18:07.32 | Cotulla | ur brain is clear, I am already disassembling its code and there a lot of code from India seems :D |
| 18:08.02 | zeus | Did you know that National language of India is C/C++ ? |
| 18:09.43 | zeus | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/India#Ancient_History_.28in_.22C.22.29 |
| 18:10.10 | zeus | Unfortunately this function - as with all other kinds of Indian logic - hangs up in an infinite loop. |
| 18:10.18 | zeus | we made the BKL :D |
| 18:12.02 | zeus | ok, no more trolling. |
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| 18:26.58 | GNUtoo | hi dcordes |
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| 19:01.26 | yuki | hello gauys |
| 19:01.28 | yuki | guys |
| 19:01.39 | yuki | hello ¿? |
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| 19:15.12 | zeus | hey |
| 19:15.19 | zeus | yuki |
| 19:22.34 | zeus | cotulla |
| 19:22.55 | zeus | is it possible to have device serial in leo from haret or during nand boot through smem ? |
| 19:23.33 | Cotulla | not for gods |
| 19:24.15 | zeus | :o but then why not you humans do it alrady ?? |
| 19:25.02 | Cotulla | humans? humans are too stupid. monkeys did it few centuries ago :) |
| 19:25.13 | zeus | i was thinking of dumping my smem through haret and sniffing the dump for the device serial i see in wm6.5 |
| 19:25.29 | zeus | sheetz, now i ahve to go and ask king kong to help :[ |
| 19:26.08 | zeus | apt fetch banana from monkey |
| 19:26.22 | zeus | apt get banana from monkey |
| 19:26.22 | apt | ACTION fetches banana from monkey |
| 19:34.02 | zeus | cotulla |
| 19:34.04 | zeus | seriously |
| 19:34.26 | zeus | you know the address of device serial in smem ? |
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| 19:41.56 | Cotulla | there no serial inside smem |
| 19:43.48 | zeus | hmm, what is cid and board id ? |
| 19:44.04 | zeus | they are in leo memory map table |
| 19:48.29 | zeus | Cotulla: ping |
| 20:10.27 | yuki | who can help me ¿? |
| 20:10.28 | yuki | plis |
| 20:11.11 | helicopter88 | yuki: ask what you need,someone will answer |
| 20:11.45 | yuki | ok |
| 20:11.47 | yuki | hmmm |
| 20:11.54 | yuki | I have got one Toshiba TG'01 |
| 20:12.06 | yuki | I want install antroid in my phone |
| 20:12.14 | yuki | is posible ¿? |
| 20:12.37 | helicopter88 | I think that there's a proper section on xda for your phone |
| 20:12.50 | helicopter88 | this channel is about developement(mostly kernel) |
| 20:12.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | to run and use basic ui - possible. anything beyond that is unsuable. Markinus should know more |
| 20:15.40 | yuki | I'm in for a chat, but there is no user logged in, I need a help, and no, I thought one of you could reply and enlighten me on the subject |
| 20:16.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846777 |
| 20:16.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | [[Tg01]] |
| 20:16.41 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tg01 |
| 20:20.47 | yuki | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc/commits/linux-on-tg01 I see this page contine something, but not like I can install it on this page to my phone, I'm trying but I am very new to this, someone can help me. |
| 20:21.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | download the archive from the second post from multiupload. no more help here :( |
| 20:22.08 | helicopter88 | Alex[sp3dev]: will you continue to work on .35 or since now only 3.1? |
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| 20:23.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | helicopter88: depends on whether i'll fix wifi on 35 or not. i plan to release a test build without wifi since many people use 3g instead |
| 20:24.00 | helicopter88 | oh,ok,i'll wait for your build,then |
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| 20:32.41 | Markinus | yuki: I did some work for TG01, the build is old but in kernel repo there much more new stuff |
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| 20:33.39 | Markinus | yuki: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc/commits/linux-on-tg01 |
| 20:33.40 | yuki | but I can install to my phone den, I'm very new, I just want a simple answer, |
| 20:33.50 | yuki | but I can install to my phone den, I'm very new, I just want a simple answer, |
| 20:33.50 | Markinus | install to phone? no |
| 20:34.01 | Markinus | you can compile new kernel and run build with haret |
| 20:34.23 | yuki | So it is not possible, my phone, can have the antrum ¿? |
| 20:35.21 | yuki | install is not good, but if you boot into my phone from windows mobile no Do? |
| 20:35.37 | Markinus | yuki: there is nobody else who is realy working on it, and I have much other stuff. I don't think that it would be ever finished. |
| 20:36.13 | Markinus | yuki: read in forum about haret then you will see how it works |
| 20:36.35 | Markinus | in the end of the thread is a new compiled zImage |
| 20:36.55 | yuki | But if you say that is not finished, working or not working?? |
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| 20:38.15 | yuki | very simple, work on my phone the antrum, or not going to be?? |
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| 20:38.23 | Markinus | you can boot, sound works, panel, toucscreen, partialy radio, keys, and much other stuff in low level. This phone is very different to the way how htc is doing it |
| 20:38.48 | Markinus | have to be done: wlan, BT |
| 20:39.12 | Markinus | gsensor and camera are in no other device, i don't think that someone will get it to work |
| 20:40.46 | yuki | We, the android is not going to function in the TG01 100 percent. I can take away the idea of the head. true?? |
| 20:41.11 | Markinus | yeah |
| 20:42.22 | Markinus | you need for that some people who are working together. This phone seems not to be intresting for more devs |
| 20:47.03 | yuki | Well, thanks anyway xD, I'll have to figure out a way to get rid of this phone, and catch another more useful. that Microsoft's disgust, thrown left many users of Windows Mobile 6.5 |
| 20:52.47 | yuki | Me Me recomiendan movil ¿? |
| 20:54.17 | yuki | I recommend that mobile?? |
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