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| 16:22.00 | fpu | hello |
| 16:23.27 | Cotulla | hey dude |
| 16:25.22 | fpu | Cotulla can your HSPL play any role in HD2 rejecting sim unlock code? |
| 16:28.32 | Cotulla | no |
| 16:29.31 | fpu | ok |
| 16:29.34 | fpu | that was my last idea ; |
| 16:29.35 | fpu | ;) |
| 16:30.03 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 16:30.31 | Cotulla | u thought it's easy to unlock |
| 16:30.32 | Cotulla | :P |
| 16:31.01 | fpu | I thought if I'd pay it would be easy :p |
| 16:31.11 | fpu | but it rejected fastgsm.com code |
| 16:31.19 | Cotulla | strange |
| 16:31.28 | fpu | and now I'm just looking for other site to try, any ideas? |
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| 16:31.51 | Cotulla | I don't know |
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| 16:32.09 | Cotulla | because I can unlock for myself :) |
| 16:32.18 | fpu | on ebay I see only TMO unlock codes |
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| 16:32.26 | fpu | hehe |
| 16:33.24 | fpu | blessed are those who can hardware unlock ;) |
| 16:34.17 | Cotulla | out of my rules, so sorry I can't help u :) |
| 16:35.02 | fpu | you have hardware to pull this off right? unlock box/ |
| 16:35.17 | Cotulla | ofcourse no |
| 16:36.57 | fpu | I've no idea then what you mean, I thought only possibilities are unlock code/hardware :/ |
| 16:37.42 | Cotulla | did u fix usb host in evo kernel? |
| 16:38.54 | fpu | didn't play with it yet |
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| 18:11.06 | jbb | hi |
| 18:11.18 | jbb | are there any general HTC phone channels around |
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| 19:06.52 | seb82 | hey Alex[sp3dev] |
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| 19:11.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey seb82 |
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| 19:11.49 | seb82 | Alex[sp3dev] the linux-rep which I downloaded doesn't contain a defconfig for the rx1950... |
| 19:12.24 | seb82 | nor a mach-folder for the mach-s3c2442 |
| 19:12.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | seb82: i told you like 4 times : take any defconfig for s3c24xx and enable rx1950 via menuconfig |
| 19:13.09 | seb82 | owkay that's were it wend wrong... I never done such a thing... i know I can't ask you how to do it all the way... |
| 19:13.33 | seb82 | but basically I could take the defconfig from the repo which I downloaded through git by htc-linux... |
| 19:13.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | no you cannot |
| 19:13.54 | seb82 | owkay... |
| 19:14.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | htc-linux had rx1950 in s3c2442 directory, this one in s3c2440 |
| 19:15.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | export CROSS_COMPILE and PATH, do make s3c2410_defconfig, then make menuconfig, go to system type, switch to s3c2442 and choose your pda and save the config as arch/arm/configs/rx1950_defconfig and compile |
| 19:15.52 | Cotulla | hey Alexx |
| 19:15.54 | seb82 | owkay sorry I'm asking so much... i never did compile kernel... |
| 19:16.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey Cotulla |
| 19:16.15 | Cotulla | seb82, a lot of fun still for u |
| 19:16.16 | Cotulla | ;) |
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| 19:16.37 | seb82 | I'm still having fun at getting a kernel working for that ipaq |
| 19:17.18 | seb82 | and luckily Alex has had a load of patience with me so far... |
| 19:17.25 | Cotulla | but u should be careful: it can be go to ur habit to compile few kernel before sleeping every day :o |
| 19:17.34 | Cotulla | *kernels |
| 19:17.37 | seb82 | lol |
| 19:17.40 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:19.06 | seb82 | Alex I found the stuff already enabled in system... |
| 19:19.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | 2442 and rx1950? |
| 19:20.01 | seb82 | yes |
| 19:20.20 | seb82 | it states its build in |
| 19:20.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | then check drivers section to see if touchscreen,sound, mmc, usb (usb gadget) and graphics (framebuffer/backlight) are enabled |
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| 19:26.43 | seb82 | all enabled... |
| 19:27.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | go ahead and build it. then use haret to load zImage.. damn.. why am i still keeping patience |
| 19:28.13 | seb82 | I no longer have the device avaible to try it... but thanks so far Alex... |
| 19:28.22 | seb82 | This means a big deal for me |
| 19:28.36 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:28.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | u have no device? wtf are you wasting your time on this? |
| 19:28.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | feels pwned |
| 19:28.56 | Cotulla | shocked |
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| 19:29.24 | seb82 | I had the device available until 2 this afternoon my time |
| 19:29.26 | [Delenn] | big eyes |
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| 19:29.40 | seb82 | but it's possible I have the device available next weekend |
| 19:30.26 | seb82 | and besides that I don't have it at the moment, it's cool building my first kernel... |
| 19:30.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | seb82: you could try building it for x86 or leo |
| 19:31.43 | seb82 | I would love to build it for leo... |
| 19:32.33 | Cotulla | :) |
| 19:32.40 | Cotulla | leo rulezzz |
| 19:32.56 | seb82 | true |
| 19:33.07 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 19:33.21 | seb82 | will work on that later... and hope I can build a debian-distro for it |
| 19:33.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | is thinking of using FSO on debian |
| 19:34.03 | seb82 | FS0? |
| 19:34.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | freesmartphone.org |
| 19:34.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | shr-project.org actually |
| 19:34.25 | Cotulla | wit? |
| 19:34.47 | Cotulla | what is it? |
| 19:35.03 | Cotulla | oh it's GNUtoo OS? |
| 19:35.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | FSO is the backend of SHR (everything except UI) |
| 19:35.24 | Cotulla | so UI same? |
| 19:35.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | i hate E17 and want to either write a GTK dialer or build aurora for X11 |
| 19:36.20 | Cotulla | We are not on holidays! |
| 19:36.20 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.21 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:36.50 | Cotulla | http://blog.shr-project.org/ |
| 19:37.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: some screens of SHR on kovsky ;) http://juick.com/alexst/1501638 |
| 19:39.46 | Cotulla | it's ur blog? |
| 19:39.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: sort of |
| 19:40.46 | Cotulla | what is "juick.com"? |
| 19:41.20 | Cotulla | gotta open my own blog soon |
| 19:41.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: a microblogging network for nerds |
| 19:41.35 | Cotulla | okay |
| 19:41.47 | seb82 | privjet Alex |
| 19:41.49 | seb82 | hihi |
| 19:42.15 | seb82 | I see why you dislike E17... eventhough it's pretty cool on the looks... that's it... |
| 19:42.22 | Cotulla | they didn't ban u yet for discussing not leaves, |
| 19:42.28 | Cotulla | ? |
| 19:42.28 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:42.39 | Cotulla | or trees . . . |
| 19:42.41 | seb82 | I think that something like gnome 3 e.g. would look cool |
| 19:42.53 | seb82 | or trunks |
| 19:43.04 | Cotulla | yeah the fisrt screen same like on the leo |
| 19:43.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: it is hard to get banned on juick unless you are a hardcore troll and gay |
| 19:43.10 | Cotulla | which SHR build u are using? |
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| 19:43.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i'm using the build from dream, just edited the xorg.conf and DPI |
| 19:43.52 | Cotulla | they didn't fix gradients on buttons still |
| 19:44.16 | Cotulla | but I remember |
| 19:44.24 | Cotulla | u tell that "python too slow" |
| 19:44.25 | seb82 | So Alex does that mean you prefere a full distro on your phone as well? |
| 19:44.25 | Cotulla | no? |
| 19:45.05 | Cotulla | hm what browser are there ? |
| 19:45.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: they mostly got rid of python but I don't like e17 itself |
| 19:45.22 | Cotulla | what is e17? |
| 19:45.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: the browser is eve, from E17 |
| 19:45.27 | Cotulla | I know b17 |
| 19:45.32 | Cotulla | I often kill it by AA gun |
| 19:46.00 | Cotulla | eve? |
| 19:46.05 | Cotulla | webkit? |
| 19:46.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | seb82: yes, i'd prefer openbox (or matchbox) and desktop software (audacious etc) |
| 19:46.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: no idea. you can use any browser in linux like firefox,midori,arora(webkit) |
| 19:46.52 | Cotulla | lol comments |
| 19:46.53 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:46.54 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:47.05 | Cotulla | last one is the best |
| 19:47.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 19:47.23 | Cotulla | okay lets read other messages |
| 19:47.25 | Cotulla | ^^ |
| 19:47.43 | seb82 | and lets face it... mobile phone deserve it |
| 19:47.56 | seb82 | and chrome as well? |
| 19:48.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: then you can find my subscriptions, read all their post and continue walking the social graph ;) |
| 19:48.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | seb82: chrome would need a decent x11 driver. there are troubles getting it to run with fbdev |
| 19:49.55 | Cotulla | seems ur subscribers are funny |
| 19:50.07 | seb82 | ah kk to bad |
| 19:50.22 | Cotulla | äà çàáåé è ñêà÷àé CafeOBJ, à ÿ âîîáùå íà ñàéòå íàïèøó, ÷òî íå÷åãî ëàçèòü, åñëè íå íåêðîôèë. :D |
| 19:50.29 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:50.58 | seb82 | I personally think that your start bar should be on the bottom... |
| 19:51.02 | Cotulla | they using windows, because people need to learn windows to get success after university. |
| 19:51.04 | seb82 | else it gets the apple look |
| 19:51.37 | Cotulla | and knowledge about linux will be outdated very soon |
| 19:51.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: okay, so you are responding to my trolling ;) |
| 19:52.18 | Cotulla | I just answer to ur question |
| 19:52.30 | Cotulla | oo intone |
| 19:52.47 | Cotulla | Russian unsupported in SHR |
| 19:53.08 | Cotulla | I hope at some day they will erase all ANSI functions from libraries |
| 19:53.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | any knowledge, even about your favorite windows, will get outdated. if you want to reach success, you must learn to find new knowledge yourself ;) |
| 19:53.36 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 19:53.40 | Cotulla | but linux too fast outdated |
| 19:54.16 | Cotulla | lol #1499010 |
| 19:54.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | O RLY? bash, sh and sockets have not changed for like 20 years.. and yeah, in university you must learn math and algorithms, not only 'coding' |
| 19:54.59 | Cotulla | what about "udisks"? |
| 19:55.08 | Cotulla | ur epic story in #1499010 about them |
| 19:55.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: udisks sucks |
| 19:56.11 | Cotulla | BCM4329 firmware not 16 kb which loaded at the start up? |
| 19:56.18 | Cotulla | hm let me try |
| 19:57.17 | Cotulla | lol really |
| 19:57.23 | Cotulla | ARM THUMB there |
| 19:57.29 | Cotulla | ROM:00005CD0 LDR R1, =aScan_suppress_ ; "scan_suppress_ssid" |
| 19:57.31 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:57.56 | Cotulla | but it's more looking like ARMv7-M |
| 19:58.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, it may be thumb2. it's cortex m3 if it is wifi.. and the fw for arm7 core for BT is not available unless you dump it from bt via uart |
| 19:59.03 | Cotulla | yes |
| 19:59.19 | Cotulla | why? I think it's common for al |
| 19:59.20 | Cotulla | all |
| 19:59.26 | seb82 | Alex: good news... it's still compiling... whereas yesterday after 5 minutes it stopped after an error... |
| 19:59.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: well, for BT, the firmware is stored in chip and hcd files contain patches that are applied to the code in ram at runtime |
| 20:00.11 | Cotulla | u sure? |
| 20:00.34 | Cotulla | who stop them from putting wlan code also sindei |
| 20:00.36 | Cotulla | hm |
| 20:00.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yes.. and if you look up the logs, there was a conversation of two guys dumping the firmware. with enough patience you can dump it |
| 20:01.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: probably it's because BT core was designed before wifi.. or because they want to update wifi algorithms |
| 20:01.33 | Cotulla | I am lazy |
| 20:01.35 | Cotulla | u know |
| 20:01.47 | Cotulla | will believe u |
| 20:02.04 | Cotulla | OMG |
| 20:02.04 | Cotulla | #1436185 |
| 20:02.05 | Cotulla | :D |
| 20:02.27 | Cotulla | what weed it was? |
| 20:02.31 | Cotulla | or just after drivers? |
| 20:03.11 | Cotulla | okay, I got main idea from ur blog |
| 20:04.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: https://github.com/richardtrip/iconia-a500-kernel/blob/master/drivers/power/EC_battery.c#L292 was my inspiration ;) |
| 20:04.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmPG5WfO14A |
| 20:06.40 | Cotulla | bullshit. I had previous system for 2.5 year without all this issues |
| 20:06.49 | Cotulla | just n00bs they are always n00bs |
| 20:06.55 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:08.04 | seb82 | wots a world without noobs? |
| 20:08.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: actually the only two things that i really HATE in windows is registry (single point of failure) and the lack of proper software repositories (and windows installer is bullshit) |
| 20:08.21 | Cotulla | I don't tell we don't need n00bs |
| 20:08.28 | Cotulla | n00bs also part of this world |
| 20:08.33 | seb82 | I didn't say you said that |
| 20:08.38 | Cotulla | lol ok |
| 20:08.46 | Cotulla | registry? |
| 20:08.48 | seb82 | lol |
| 20:08.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yep |
| 20:08.56 | seb82 | you mean windows as in M$ windows? |
| 20:09.01 | Cotulla | u have anything against it? |
| 20:09.04 | Cotulla | why? |
| 20:09.32 | Cotulla | seb82, I am Windows CE fan actually :P |
| 20:10.52 | seb82 | no worries... It was just a question |
| 20:11.10 | seb82 | there's only a few thinks I liked of M$: MS-DOS, win3x, win95, win7 |
| 20:11.38 | seb82 | and a little of winmo 6.5 and winphone 7 |
| 20:12.13 | Cotulla | Alex, registry is great. Maybe it need more strict access, but it's great. Good settings data base. They are all inside one place with good program for editing. As well standard data types also good. |
| 20:12.46 | Cotulla | Registry very simple to use inside code, so it's possible for developers make more parameters to be customized by experienced users |
| 20:13.07 | Cotulla | not like creating 1001 different config formats for each program |
| 20:13.14 | Cotulla | with different \r\n and \n and etc |
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| 20:18.46 | seb82 | Alex I compiled it like you said and as stated on the xda-forum link you gave me... |
| 20:19.15 | Cotulla | he leaved. maybe network/power down |
| 20:19.47 | seb82 | perhaps you know... I compiled the core... but I don't have a zImage like I asked for... |
| 20:20.17 | seb82 | make -j4 ARCH=$ARCH CROSS_COMPILE=$CROSS_COMPILE zImage modules |
| 20:20.19 | Cotulla | arch\arm\boot |
| 20:20.20 | Cotulla | ? |
| 20:20.26 | Cotulla | there Image zImage |
| 20:20.41 | seb82 | no zImage... |
| 20:20.42 | Cotulla | it's linux :P |
| 20:20.44 | Cotulla | ohh |
| 20:20.49 | Cotulla | errors? |
| 20:21.16 | seb82 | yes related to size_t but no ending errors after compiling |
| 20:21.26 | Cotulla | it's normal |
| 20:21.26 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:21.52 | seb82 | ookay |
| 20:21.58 | Cotulla | so fix them |
| 20:22.20 | seb82 | warning: format '%Zu' expects type 'size_t', but argument 3 has type 'unsigned int' |
| 20:22.33 | Cotulla | it's warning |
| 20:22.34 | seb82 | wouldn't know how |
| 20:22.34 | Cotulla | not error |
| 20:22.42 | Cotulla | search |
| 20:22.43 | Cotulla | error: |
| 20:22.56 | seb82 | make[1]: *** [fs/binfmt_aout.o] Error 1 |
| 20:22.56 | seb82 | make: *** [fs] Error 2 |
| 20:23.10 | Cotulla | more |
| 20:23.10 | seb82 | but it continues to compile after that |
| 20:23.17 | Cotulla | because u have -k4 |
| 20:23.20 | Cotulla | -j4 |
| 20:23.21 | Cotulla | 4 cores |
| 20:23.29 | Cotulla | other cores did some operations |
| 20:23.35 | Cotulla | so they finish they work and stops |
| 20:23.36 | seb82 | I used -j2 because I only have 1 core |
| 20:23.40 | Cotulla | *their |
| 20:23.46 | Cotulla | so second core |
| 20:23.49 | Cotulla | finish current task and stops |
| 20:23.51 | Cotulla | after error |
| 20:24.01 | seb82 | according to alex I should use -j2 because I have 1 core... |
| 20:24.13 | Cotulla | is it this dual atom ? |
| 20:24.17 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.25 | seb82 | no I got a single intel celeron |
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| 20:30.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | ffuuu @ my internets |
| 20:30.39 | Cotulla | network |
| 20:30.40 | Cotulla | ? |
| 20:30.42 | Cotulla | not power down? |
| 20:30.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 20:30.49 | Cotulla | okay |
| 20:31.04 | Cotulla | 2 kbytes/sec |
| 20:31.05 | Cotulla | nice speed |
| 20:31.06 | Cotulla | :P |
| 20:31.09 | Cotulla | GPRS |
| 20:31.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | so my point was that registry is bad because it is all stored in one file (well, 6 files, but that doesn't matter) and if that file gets corrupted, you lose all applications and settings |
| 20:32.00 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 20:32.05 | Cotulla | but |
| 20:32.10 | Cotulla | it's only question of implementation |
| 20:32.19 | Cotulla | not about usage |
| 20:32.25 | Cotulla | I see two bad things |
| 20:32.38 | Cotulla | 1)no strict security |
| 20:32.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | so the current implementation is bad. and the second thing bad is the lack of application isolation |
| 20:33.06 | Cotulla | 2)programs usually put there values by installers, so u need reinstall them after new system |
| 20:33.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, in vista there's actually strict security. iirc, you can use access control lists to limit access to registry keys to specific users/groups |
| 20:33.26 | Cotulla | why it can be corrupted? |
| 20:33.39 | Cotulla | why not NTLDR be corrupted in the middle too? |
| 20:33.42 | Cotulla | *can not |
| 20:33.45 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 20:33.54 | Cotulla | it's question of filesystem & HW issues |
| 20:34.09 | Cotulla | I can find 1001 files which important to boot |
| 20:34.14 | Cotulla | and u will lost all |
| 20:34.18 | Cotulla | not only applications and settings |
| 20:35.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: because the probability to lose a single file (i.e., to have one error in a random sector) is higher than losing all the data altogether. if registry was splitted into multiple files, you could just replace (reinstall) the system hive and leave all other apps intact |
| 20:35.33 | Cotulla | yes |
| 20:35.37 | Cotulla | but u can lost any other file too |
| 20:35.43 | Cotulla | isn't it? |
| 20:35.54 | Cotulla | like ntoskrnl.exe |
| 20:36.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | you don't get it. no one needs the OS, the valuable data is application settings and component registration in registry |
| 20:36.52 | Cotulla | anyway it's question of drivers/HW |
| 20:36.57 | Cotulla | fault case |
| 20:37.13 | Cotulla | usage is important |
| 20:37.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | no. if you design your system in a stupid way, it is stupid no matter how good the hardware is |
| 20:40.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's like riding a car without a fire extinguisher and saying "good cars do not burn" |
| 20:41.20 | Cotulla | :D |
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