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| 00:13.26 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yo |
| 00:13.30 | arrrghhh | long time :P |
| 00:15.31 | WisTilt2 | hey arrrgggg. yeah had out of town company all weekend. last night and all today we had a major storm with lots of lightning so been crazy at the office today. |
| 00:15.46 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 00:15.48 | WisTilt2 | arrrgggg? wth is that? arrrghhh |
| 00:15.53 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:16.06 | arrrghhh | gotta get the right # of r's and h's |
| 00:16.10 | arrrghhh | ;) |
| 00:16.24 | stinebd | otherwise you just sound like a pirate |
| 00:16.43 | rpierce99 | oh stinebd i thought we had lost you to the 3ds |
| 00:16.49 | arrrghhh | now i'm just curious as to what people sound like when they do say my handle |
| 00:16.53 | arrrghhh | especially out loud. |
| 00:16.56 | stinebd | rpierce99: best buy didn't let me take it with me |
| 00:16.57 | arrrghhh | i guess just angry |
| 00:17.06 | rpierce99 | damn best buy |
| 00:17.21 | WisTilt2 | so, some interesting finds in the ril. looks like the ril doesn't even know how to setup the modem on gsm! winmo sets it up so wonder how the nand guys got things working. |
| 00:17.46 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 00:17.48 | arrrghhh | no wonder |
| 00:17.51 | rpierce99 | nand doesn't work on gsm |
| 00:17.55 | arrrghhh | NAND only works for CDMA |
| 00:17.57 | arrrghhh | ^^ |
| 00:18.06 | stinebd | nand doesn't even boot the kernel on gsm |
| 00:18.15 | stinebd | arm9 crash early during boot |
| 00:18.25 | WisTilt2 | yeah, try this... in winmo lock to 2g or gprs then go into android. 3g is nowhere to be found since the ril has no code to init the modem |
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| 00:18.46 | stinebd | i could've told you that |
| 00:18.49 | rpierce99 | yeah someone said that on the forums the other day and i thought they were a lunatic |
| 00:18.53 | stinebd | but i thought you weren't interested in such trivialities |
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| 00:19.37 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:20.57 | WisTilt2 | we have it setup now on gsm in the new ril but cdma is going to be trial and error i think. im going to make a build for you to run that will send all the commands to the modem for init so we can see which ones get errors and which work. then we have to get the init values for the modes. |
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| 00:21.12 | arrrghhh | i'm down |
| 00:21.20 | stinebd | well then get up |
| 00:21.21 | stinebd | we need you |
| 00:21.26 | arrrghhh | boos |
| 00:22.14 | WisTilt2 | stinebd have a question for you about andriod side. let me find the code and see if you know anything about it... |
| 00:22.52 | stinebd | they were on LSD when they wrote it |
| 00:23.17 | arrrghhh | perhaps if we also do LSD we will understand and become one with the code. |
| 00:23.29 | stinebd | we'll become one with the dragons on the walls |
| 00:23.44 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 00:23.47 | arrrghhh | ignore them |
| 00:23.55 | arrrghhh | give you a bad trip man |
| 00:24.00 | stinebd | i would never ignore puff the magic dragon |
| 00:25.09 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: you ever delved into this - frameworks/base/telephony/java/com/android/internal/telephony/gsm/GsmServiceStateTracker.java, func pollStateDone() |
| 00:25.33 | stinebd | jesus, slash overflow |
| 00:25.37 | WisTilt2 | primarily where RAT state changes |
| 00:26.19 | stinebd | ok what about it? |
| 00:27.10 | WisTilt2 | does this set the mode, or suppose to? or it is just tracking what is returned from ril? |
| 00:27.24 | stinebd | just tracking state |
| 00:27.58 | stinebd | it will uses some modem calls but only to get current states, like getCid and cell location |
| 00:28.02 | WisTilt2 | I cant figure how this - GsmCellLocation loc = ((GsmCellLocation)phone.getCellLocation()); is getting any data that pertains to anything |
| 00:28.40 | WisTilt2 | always returns null on at&t anyway... |
| 00:28.57 | stinebd | well i don't claim to know anything about the modem state flow |
| 00:29.20 | stinebd | maybe on some gsm networks you get that information |
| 00:29.43 | WisTilt2 | but this is merely working with the returned state from ril correct? thats what i needed to know so i dont waste more time tracing it |
| 00:30.11 | stinebd | yes it won't (or shouldn't) do anything to change the state, it's just looking |
| 00:30.44 | WisTilt2 | i've seen this in the radio logs on both arrrghhh/rpierce99 devices but not on gsm |
| 00:31.15 | stinebd | the rat switched message? |
| 00:31.16 | WisTilt2 | yet its a gsm related function as it appears |
| 00:31.20 | WisTilt2 | yep |
| 00:31.31 | stinebd | well bear in mind our ril is acting like gsm even in cdma mode, right? |
| 00:31.37 | WisTilt2 | see it in their logs after a call |
| 00:32.20 | WisTilt2 | yeah, i just dont see why gsm phone doesnt also use it. |
| 00:32.49 | WisTilt2 | of course on cdma there is no cid so it returns -1 |
| 00:33.38 | stinebd | what is networkType? |
| 00:33.55 | stinebd | gsm vs umts vs hspa? |
| 00:33.56 | WisTilt2 | that should be the mode, edge, umts, etc |
| 00:34.03 | stinebd | ok |
| 00:35.18 | stinebd | in gsm the towers maintain a PRL right? |
| 00:35.47 | WisTilt2 | yes in most cases unless you're in the hills with only 1 tower |
| 00:36.16 | stinebd | so in areas where you have consistent coverage you shouldn't be seeing a change in networkType then |
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| 00:37.00 | WisTilt2 | right. but on their cdma phones it happens frequently after a call when switching back to evdo. |
| 00:37.10 | stinebd | yeah because the ril is busted to hell |
| 00:37.15 | stinebd | (my guess) |
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| 00:37.54 | stinebd | have you had to fix any of the network registration stuff? |
| 00:38.10 | WisTilt2 | yeah it is. well ill put together another test ril for them so we can get the init info. not going to worry about this other stuff until we get in in our control to change modes. |
| 00:38.21 | WisTilt2 | yes, lots missing for cdma |
| 00:38.37 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 00:38.50 | stinebd | i'm going to need your paypal email after this is done btw |
| 00:39.18 | WisTilt2 | for what? you going to clean out my account:) |
| 00:39.30 | stinebd | the opposite |
| 00:39.33 | arrrghhh | lol quite the opposite |
| 00:39.38 | arrrghhh | ninja'd |
| 00:40.12 | WisTilt2 | that's ok. keep it for someone else that needs it |
| 00:40.47 | stinebd | nope |
| 00:40.51 | stinebd | virus_crazy tried that same trick |
| 00:40.54 | WisTilt2 | not doing this for anything but the fun and eliminating ms:) |
| 00:41.03 | stinebd | buy your guys some beer then |
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| 00:41.11 | stinebd | the way it's looking, lots of beer |
| 00:41.17 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 00:41.23 | arrrghhh | i've been posting donate links everywheres |
| 00:41.25 | WisTilt2 | lol, i already buy them enough goodies |
| 00:47.05 | WisTilt2 | wife just got home. arrrghhh ill ping you in an hour or so with another .so and image to dl so we can grab that init data. |
| 00:47.35 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 00:47.40 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea i figured out my 'problem' |
| 00:47.46 | arrrghhh | so i just need the .so ;) |
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| 00:48.09 | WisTilt2 | nice. you guys still have my last system.ext2 so it wont complain? |
| 00:48.27 | arrrghhh | i need to snag it from my work pc |
| 00:48.37 | rpierce99 | yeah i have it |
| 00:48.40 | arrrghhh | let's just say testing went bad, and i backed my SD up to my work pc instead of to a flash drive. |
| 00:49.07 | WisTilt2 | actually, ill need both of you to get this new image first. i made some other changes with timers, after that ill just put up the .so |
| 00:49.25 | rpierce99 | btw arrrghhh i don't know if you remember, yesterday someone posted the link to the ril from tiad8s supposed hero jack, i checked the output and it's the vogue community ril, so if he jacked something from the hero he only did it for gsm |
| 00:49.29 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ok |
| 00:49.41 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol |
| 00:49.46 | arrrghhh | odz, aren't you CDMA? |
| 00:49.51 | odz | ya |
| 00:49.53 | arrrghhh | he was praising tiad8's "new RIL" |
| 00:49.53 | stinebd | uh oh |
| 00:49.57 | stinebd | odz has been drafted |
| 00:50.01 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:50.07 | odz | X_X |
| 00:51.11 | rpierce99 | which i'm not sure why you would only change the gsm side, since that's the only part that works well |
| 00:51.37 | arrrghhh | but they still get SoD |
| 00:51.42 | arrrghhh | certainly not flawless. |
| 00:53.07 | odz | 25hrs heavy usage no sod yet so i guess its this build |
| 00:55.03 | rpierce99 | odz: i've had 25 days (more actually) with no sods |
| 00:57.24 | odz | rpierce99: even with a weak/no signal at times? |
| 00:57.51 | rpierce99 | at times, not often |
| 00:58.07 | arrrghhh | i haven't had SoD's from signal issues in a very long time. |
| 00:58.11 | arrrghhh | but i'm almost always in 3g. |
| 00:59.12 | stinebd | tried the microwave trick? |
| 00:59.17 | odz | oh i take the nyc subway everyday and this is the first time i've had it go so long without a sod (weak/low signal 20-30mins 2 times a day) |
| 00:59.39 | stinebd | they should really femto those trains |
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| 01:19.54 | Entropy512 | stinebd: the way some subway systems do it (DC Metro I think) is leaky coax |
| 01:20.24 | Entropy512 | http://www.commscope.com/andrew/eng/product/trans_line_sys/coaxial/radiating/1206639_13611.html |
| 01:20.46 | stinebd | my god, more radiation |
| 01:21.05 | AstainHellbring | Hi |
| 01:21.08 | stinebd | tv remotes, phones, bananas, bananaphones. everything radiates |
| 01:22.00 | Entropy512 | heheh |
| 01:22.44 | arrrghhh | i dun put a sticker on mah bananaphone |
| 01:22.51 | AstainHellbring | how goes nand on rhod400? |
| 01:22.54 | arrrghhh | stops radiation before it starts |
| 01:22.58 | arrrghhh | AstainHellbring, slow, but moving. |
| 01:23.11 | arrrghhh | AstainHellbring, you know of the thread on ppcg? |
| 01:23.20 | stinebd | i have a chiquita 4g |
| 01:23.26 | arrrghhh | that's the best place to follow dev. nand devs don't really hang out in here and chat much :P |
| 01:28.03 | AstainHellbring | arrrghhh I thought xda was the place to what status of that |
| 01:28.20 | stinebd | it should be |
| 01:28.30 | stinebd | but acl has some sort of fear of noobs |
| 01:28.42 | stinebd | especially when they flock together |
| 01:29.00 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 01:29.06 | arrrghhh | ^^ |
| 01:29.07 | AstainHellbring | noobs flock on ppcgeeks too |
| 01:29.17 | arrrghhh | AstainHellbring, true but acl is cdma and rhod only works on cdma atm |
| 01:29.20 | arrrghhh | so... it kinda makes sense. |
| 01:29.30 | stinebd | yeah but they stampede run around like a bunch of retarded hippos on ppcg |
| 01:29.36 | stinebd | err they dont |
| 01:29.45 | AstainHellbring | too bad it doesnt work for gsm on rhod400 |
| 01:30.01 | arrrghhh | eh who cares about gsm |
| 01:30.03 | arrrghhh | dead protocol |
| 01:30.07 | AstainHellbring | I do |
| 01:30.09 | stinebd | shuddapayoface |
| 01:30.10 | arrrghhh | runs |
| 01:30.13 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:30.35 | stinebd | arrrghhh's phones still take compactflash cards :P |
| 01:30.40 | AstainHellbring | lol wtf... |
| 01:31.02 | stinebd | i heard cdma uses rotary dialers |
| 01:32.31 | arrrghhh | i just call the cdma operator |
| 01:32.32 | arrrghhh | lori |
| 01:32.34 | arrrghhh | she patches me thru |
| 01:32.42 | arrrghhh | no need to do all that messy number punchin |
| 01:33.12 | stinebd | yeah just tell her you're trying to call number 17 in the territory of virginia |
| 01:33.22 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 01:34.18 | stinebd | hey washington we doin a meetup in philly to sign that thingie yo |
| 01:35.20 | stinebd | gotta pitch that as a movie idea for hollywood |
| 01:35.38 | stinebd | a historical drama set in the american revolution where the forefathers all had boost mobile |
| 01:36.09 | stinebd | where you at hancock |
| 01:36.17 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 01:38.27 | Entropy512 | omg lol |
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| 02:16.32 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh/rpierce99: zip is up 838b4748ae84f3ca70f18a98ccef7868 - this should be test 10. just boot, make sure data locks then send radio log. |
| 02:16.54 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 02:17.57 | WisTilt2 | after logs, you might see if sleep is still exactly 30s after a call. dont know if i have the correct wake lock timer being used yet. |
| 02:18.10 | arrrghhh | k |
| 02:21.18 | rpierce99 | wow charters dns server is craptastic right now, took minutes to tell me it couldn't find host, switched to another dns server and bam, downloading instantly |
| 02:21.27 | rpierce99 | can't even browse the internet |
| 02:21.33 | arrrghhh | opendns |
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| 02:24.36 | arrrghhh | i <3 opendns |
| 02:25.33 | rpierce99 | yeah back when google came out with their dns server i did speed tests with all of the big ones and my local dns was fastest, but after this i think i'm going to put something else in at the router |
| 02:25.43 | arrrghhh | heh |
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| 02:27.07 | rpierce99 | i also hate the dns forwarding that charter does |
| 02:27.15 | rpierce99 | when you type an address wrong |
| 02:28.00 | arrrghhh | o yea |
| 02:28.06 | arrrghhh | comcrast does that too |
| 02:30.00 | arrrghhh | aw. reboot to winmo :/ |
| 02:30.13 | arrrghhh | new data.img choking it seems |
| 02:31.29 | arrrghhh | alright, hopefully this boot'll work better... |
| 02:31.45 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: just because i almost forgot, delete your ril that is mount binding |
| 02:31.52 | arrrghhh | it's not |
| 02:32.03 | arrrghhh | i formatted my card messing with that cm7 build |
| 02:32.12 | arrrghhh | so i'm started from square uno |
| 02:32.18 | rpierce99 | nice |
| 02:32.23 | arrrghhh | kinda sux |
| 02:32.26 | arrrghhh | but thanks for the reminder :P |
| 02:33.42 | WisTilt2 | forgot to ask but what mode do you guys have the network set to in winmo and what kind of choices do you have? |
| 02:33.53 | arrrghhh | i'd assume auto |
| 02:34.03 | arrrghhh | and i don't know that i've ever looked, at least not recently :P |
| 02:34.04 | rpierce99 | it's on Ev for me, haven't touched it |
| 02:34.13 | arrrghhh | yea, it's ev |
| 02:34.19 | arrrghhh | i haven't changed the setting either |
| 02:34.27 | WisTilt2 | we can set bands and gprs,edge,wcdma and auto, just curious if cdma has similar |
| 02:34.59 | WisTilt2 | so you guys have it to evdo only, preferred, or auto? |
| 02:35.13 | arrrghhh | in android? |
| 02:35.25 | WisTilt2 | winmo |
| 02:35.30 | arrrghhh | i'll have to boot back |
| 02:35.33 | arrrghhh | 1 sec |
| 02:35.41 | WisTilt2 | k looking at your log... |
| 02:35.45 | arrrghhh | np |
| 02:35.47 | arrrghhh | brb |
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| 02:39.07 | rpierce99 | i hope we weren't expecting errors from AT+CGAATT=2,1,x |
| 02:39.41 | WisTilt2 | thought there would be a few on cdma but looks like they are all valid |
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| 02:41.05 | rpierce99 | where in WM do i find the network mode? |
| 02:41.32 | rpierce99 | ah found it |
| 02:41.38 | rpierce99 | CDMA only is the current setting (default) |
| 02:41.45 | rpierce99 | and only option |
| 02:41.56 | WisTilt2 | depends on the rom i think. in energy you just tap the signal icon and it brings up the data screen |
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| 02:42.35 | WisTilt2 | so in winmo you cant even force 2g mode only |
| 02:42.47 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, CDMA only |
| 02:42.52 | rpierce99 | no |
| 02:43.01 | arrrghhh | o... only selection for me as well. |
| 02:43.27 | rpierce99 | it has settings for GSM but they are greyed out |
| 02:43.32 | rpierce99 | maybe because I am still sim locked |
| 02:44.07 | arrrghhh | and probably don't have a sim installed :P |
| 02:44.16 | rpierce99 | yep :) |
| 02:45.00 | rpierce99 | but that wouldn't help with the cdma 2g |
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| 02:49.04 | odz | you can force cdma 2g if you use and app called "WMLongLife" |
| 02:50.04 | odz | 2G/3G (auto)/3G (only) |
| 02:53.58 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, exactly 30s sleep after a phone call too fyi... |
| 02:54.16 | arrrghhh | do you want another radio log after i made the call and the 30s sleep...? |
| 02:54.56 | WisTilt2 | not needed. had a choice of 3 timer areas, guess first pick wasn't it |
| 02:55.24 | arrrghhh | kk |
| 02:55.38 | arrrghhh | rebooting to winmo to get ready for #11 :D |
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| 03:10.34 | Touch | Hey whats the newest download for getting droid on a microsoft phone (Touch pro 2) |
| 03:10.50 | arrrghhh | Touch, this channel isn't for support |
| 03:10.53 | arrrghhh | come over to #xdandroid |
| 03:11.02 | WisTilt2 | .so test 11 ready e612570dbdb9ebfa3cd135bcded1e7ba |
| 03:12.10 | arrrghhh | k |
| 03:14.31 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: no connection |
| 03:15.11 | WisTilt2 | just data or everything? |
| 03:15.19 | rpierce99 | can't call either |
| 03:15.23 | arrrghhh | oo |
| 03:15.24 | arrrghhh | yea same |
| 03:15.31 | arrrghhh | X on the bars |
| 03:15.33 | arrrghhh | no svc |
| 03:15.34 | WisTilt2 | log |
| 03:15.36 | arrrghhh | kk |
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| 03:17.30 | WisTilt2 | broken pipe again interesting |
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| 03:18.48 | WisTilt2 | both logs nearly identical with same broken pipe |
| 03:18.53 | WisTilt2 | ok standby for 12 |
| 03:18.54 | arrrghhh | well that's good |
| 03:18.55 | arrrghhh | np |
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| 03:20.47 | WisTilt2 | test 12 8420f683bff8ba1e43c8bf45f471358c |
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| 03:25.16 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, no svc |
| 03:25.22 | arrrghhh | logs comin |
| 03:31.13 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: i was wrong about the ril, the vogue community ril text comes from rild not from the ril |
| 03:31.23 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:31.27 | arrrghhh | he claimed it was from hero |
| 03:31.30 | rpierce99 | so it could be modded |
| 03:31.37 | rpierce99 | yeah but he didn't change rild |
| 03:31.45 | arrrghhh | weird |
| 03:32.19 | WisTilt2 | do you guys have wireless location in android checked or unchecked? |
| 03:32.33 | arrrghhh | hrm... IIRC it's unchecked by default |
| 03:32.44 | rpierce99 | should be unchecked, mine MIGHT be checked, i was playing with it yesterday |
| 03:32.54 | WisTilt2 | on this next one check it |
| 03:33.16 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:33.18 | rpierce99 | yeah gps is on netloc is off by default |
| 03:33.22 | arrrghhh | ^^ |
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| 03:56.23 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh/rpierce99: test 13 db45f5c01634fa84febba1e99d5fdc31 - after log check 30s again after call |
| 03:57.16 | arrrghhh | Oo |
| 03:59.58 | arrrghhh | so nice not having to download the whole image |
| 04:00.57 | rpierce99 | 15 flashes to sleep |
| 04:03.20 | arrrghhh | 30s sleep |
| 04:03.31 | arrrghhh | wireless & networks loc enabled, log comin WisTilt2 |
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| 04:43.18 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, several downloads at once from the market, doesn't seem to slow the phone down much... |
| 04:43.56 | arrrghhh | heh definitely still slowed down |
| 04:44.01 | arrrghhh | but not nearly as bad as it used to be. |
| 04:45.26 | WisTilt2 | shouldn't if you're running this setup still:) should handle 5 or more without crashing but cpu will limit that. im about ready with another test, been cleaning up some things as im going. |
| 04:45.28 | arrrghhh | aw... perhaps i spoke too soon. |
| 04:45.37 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 04:45.45 | arrrghhh | i had a reboot within android |
| 04:45.53 | arrrghhh | what's weird is, i had dupe downloads |
| 04:45.57 | arrrghhh | in the market... very odd. |
| 04:46.26 | WisTilt2 | dupe downloads? |
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| 04:46.47 | arrrghhh | yea, for example i got one download - titanium backup. but two actual downloads would show for it |
| 04:46.52 | arrrghhh | with separate download bars... |
| 04:47.06 | arrrghhh | same with all the updates. maps, voice, etc all had updates and dupilcates. |
| 04:47.09 | arrrghhh | i've seen it happen before |
| 04:47.15 | arrrghhh | not saying it's unique to this build |
| 04:47.18 | arrrghhh | just an oddity. |
| 04:47.28 | arrrghhh | and perhaps related to the reboots |
| 04:48.32 | WisTilt2 | sounds like it could cause that. |
| 04:48.42 | arrrghhh | hrm. data seems borked. i'll just wait for your next test ;) |
| 04:49.10 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: did you turn on wireless location after the call or before? |
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| 04:49.37 | rpierce99 | it was on when i booted, so i turned it off, slept, made the call, slept again, turned it back on, slept |
| 04:49.55 | WisTilt2 | ah ok that explains it. |
| 04:50.12 | arrrghhh | i did a different sequence |
| 04:50.18 | WisTilt2 | was getting lost in the flow as it was different than arrrghhh's |
| 04:50.40 | rpierce99 | yeah, i didn't know if it being on would screw with sleep so i turned it off while i tested the call |
| 04:50.41 | WisTilt2 | thats good, with both i can see the actual cmd flow |
| 04:51.02 | arrrghhh | mine was disabled on boot. i enabled mine, went to maps to 'test' it. hit my loc, waited for the timeout. then tested sleep, 2x - made sure it was fast. woke it up, made a phone call and tested sleep again. |
| 04:52.53 | XirXes | What are you guys playing with today? |
| 04:52.56 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh did you enable it after you had 3g icon lock? |
| 04:53.11 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 04:53.24 | arrrghhh | 3g came on before i could freakin unlock it with this new RIL :P |
| 04:55.40 | WisTilt2 | yeah i have data lock set pretty fast, should lock and be fully up in around 5s or so after radio turns on and registers on the network |
| 04:56.04 | arrrghhh | nice. yea, there was no way i could really do anything before 3g comes up on boot, that fast. |
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| 05:21.13 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh/rpierce99: sorry for the delay! Test 14 dd33a93e4a64146566987c4db860e54a |
| 05:25.58 | rpierce99 | still delayed sleep |
| 05:26.10 | arrrghhh | anything you want us to test? |
| 05:27.06 | WisTilt2 | didnt touch delayed sleep. make sure data works then log |
| 05:27.11 | arrrghhh | k |
| 05:27.51 | rpierce99 | there's a call and some netloc on/off in there |
| 05:32.09 | WisTilt2 | looks like i need to fix the damn numberexception error before we can get netloc parsed:( |
| 05:32.35 | WisTilt2 | booted up a whole lot cleaner though |
| 05:32.36 | arrrghhh | bummer |
| 05:32.44 | arrrghhh | well that's good |
| 05:41.37 | WisTilt2 | you guys up for 1 more test? |
| 05:41.43 | arrrghhh | oh yea |
| 05:42.03 | WisTilt2 | ok going to take me 10-15mins |
| 05:42.08 | arrrghhh | np |
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| 05:58.58 | WisTilt2 | ok guys last for the night 70dd123d8d586051986f905c1f3e3c30 |
| 05:59.42 | arrrghhh | just boot lock data and log again? |
| 05:59.53 | WisTilt2 | yep |
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| 06:05.46 | arrrghhh | so the numbers don't seem to change... |
| 06:05.49 | arrrghhh | i guess i'm not really moving |
| 06:05.57 | arrrghhh | but i figured netloc values would vary greatly... |
| 06:06.33 | WisTilt2 | hey we're pulling coordinates now each netloc request. just need to pass it to android in the right place and format now |
| 06:06.43 | arrrghhh | awesome |
| 06:08.37 | WisTilt2 | i'd think the time should change but maybe only changes every so often from the tower. lat/long wont change until you're in another site or see 3 towers |
| 06:08.58 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 06:08.59 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 06:09.47 | WisTilt2 | time is changing i see later |
| 06:11.12 | arrrghhh | yea that's true. |
| 06:11.13 | WisTilt2 | this is hardcoded so setting wireless location in android doesnt matter right now btw, until we get it talking to userland |
| 06:11.24 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 06:11.36 | arrrghhh | i would assume since it works on GSM that's already there? |
| 06:11.43 | arrrghhh | or does it need to be adjusted for CDMA? |
| 06:13.16 | WisTilt2 | cdma doesn't have the code, just return so i need to make sure gsm returns same format then can just duplicate it for cdma hopefully |
| 06:13.32 | arrrghhh | hopefully :D |
| 06:15.29 | WisTilt2 | well guys thanks again for all the testing. im hitting the sack so we'll continue this tomorrow night. |
| 06:15.39 | arrrghhh | thank you! |
| 06:15.40 | arrrghhh | gn |
| 06:15.40 | rpierce99 | thanks again, good night' |
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| 12:19.32 | killes | dcordes: can you confirm that you were talking about this patch regarding USB host? http://sven.killig.de/meego/leviathan-incoming-ga604b47.patch |
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| 12:19.53 | ryannathans | hey all |
| 12:20.51 | ryannathans | sigh, totally active xD |
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| 12:45.56 | ryannathans | anyone activE? |
| 12:49.34 | killes | ryannathans: I am, but I probably can't help you. |
| 12:53.53 | tre9 | killes: I looked through the commit logs here |
| 12:53.55 | tre9 | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 12:54.48 | tre9 | does your patch look like any of those commitdiffs related to USB? |
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| 12:56.21 | ryannathans | i don't really need any help, as of yet :) |
| 12:56.59 | killes | tre9: You think I need to look at all of them? ;( |
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| 12:58.53 | tre9 | you might also look at this commitdiffs by Markinus on 6 March here |
| 12:58.54 | killes | tre9: maybe I better explain what I am after: The Dell Streak had USB host support on Android Eclair, due to a s1r72v05 driver that was in the kernel. That driver later got removed. Now I am wondering how to get back USB Host back on Froyo. |
| 12:59.15 | tre9 | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc/commits/master |
| 13:00.38 | killes | tre9: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc/commit/ef20c661c159e3ad44457a8eb0e9ce059993be5c?format=diff |
| 13:00.51 | killes | this looks similar to Sven Killig's patch |
| 13:01.12 | killes | that code is already part of the Dell Froyo kerne. |
| 13:01.13 | killes | l |
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| 13:02.08 | tre9 | oh, so the usbhost code is there |
| 13:02.20 | tre9 | is it enabled in your config? |
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| 13:05.24 | killes | tre9: I need to figure that out, now. |
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| 13:08.58 | tre9 | zcat /proc/config.gz |grep CONFIG_USB_EHCI |
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| 13:09.36 | killes | well, it is probably not in the kernel I am actually running. |
| 13:09.54 | killes | in fact, I think the config option may not have been there. |
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| 13:12.06 | ryannathans | what is broken in latest kernel? |
| 13:12.12 | ryannathans | globally borken |
| 13:12.13 | ryannathans | broken |
| 13:13.35 | tre9 | killes: The code should make the config option available since it has the patch. |
| 13:15.05 | tre9 | it sounds like you'll need to compile the kernel, configure with the streak defconfig and then find |
| 13:16.04 | tre9 | CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD, CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT, CONFIG_USB_EHCI_MSM7201 |
| 13:16.32 | tre9 | if you can, and then enable them |
| 13:16.58 | tre9 | I'm no expert so speak up if anything doesn't look right. |
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| 13:25.23 | ryannathans | what am i doing wrong |
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| 13:25.40 | ryannathans | 12 lines of code |
| 13:25.41 | ryannathans | eek |
| 13:26.01 | ryannathans | sudo apt-get install git build-essential gnupg flex bison gperf libsdl-dev esound zip curl libwxgtk2.6 libc6-dev-i386 g++-multilib lib32z1-dev lib32ncurses5-dev java-common openjdk-6-jdk sun-java5-jdk |
| 13:26.23 | Willd | openjdk? |
| 13:26.23 | ryannathans | has a spas when it gets to libwxgtk2.6 it has no idea what to select -.- |
| 13:26.52 | ryannathans | linux mint 10 gnome based of ubuntu 10.10 |
| 13:27.14 | ryannathans | its what it says on the wiki |
| 13:27.19 | bioterror | doesnt mint come with sun-java6? |
| 13:27.20 | ryannathans | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_the_Source |
| 13:27.28 | ryannathans | yeah im just copying the command |
| 13:27.37 | ryannathans | it has problems with libwxgtk2.6 |
| 13:27.43 | ryannathans | doesnt know what to select |
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| 13:49.41 | ryannathans | ? |
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| 17:26.47 | GNUtoo|bug20 | Cotulla, hi |
| 17:27.50 | Cotulla | hi |
| 17:27.54 | Cotulla | bug20? |
| 17:27.59 | GNUtoo|bug20 | a new device |
| 17:28.02 | GNUtoo|bug20 | anyway |
| 17:28.12 | Cotulla | which device? ;) |
| 17:28.12 | GNUtoo|bug20 | any progress on alsa? |
| 17:28.21 | GNUtoo|bug20 | not a phone |
| 17:28.26 | Cotulla | I am coded at week end, but now a bit busy |
| 17:28.36 | Cotulla | I will inform you about news |
| 17:28.38 | GNUtoo|bug20 | ok |
| 17:28.41 | GNUtoo|bug20 | thanks |
| 17:29.00 | GNUtoo|bug20 | basically think of an arduino running GNU/Linux |
| 17:29.26 | Cotulla | arduino? |
| 17:29.48 | GNUtoo|bug20 | basically think of a device where you can plug 4 modules at once |
| 17:29.54 | GNUtoo|bug20 | like displays gps cameras |
| 17:29.56 | GNUtoo|bug20 | etc... |
| 17:30.05 | machiche | cool !!, free hardware rocks ! |
| 17:30.19 | GNUtoo|bug20 | there is even a module for interfacing with your electronic circuits |
| 17:30.23 | Cotulla | which CPU there? |
| 17:30.28 | GNUtoo|bug20 | that contains an ADC,serial,SPI... |
| 17:30.35 | GNUtoo|bug20 | omap |
| 17:30.57 | Cotulla | 3 or 4? |
| 17:31.00 | GNUtoo|bug20 | 3 |
| 17:31.12 | GNUtoo|bug20 | the 600Mhz version |
| 17:31.30 | Cotulla | ok |
| 17:31.34 | GNUtoo|bug20 | howver it runs at 500Mhz, I think that's because of a bug in cpufreq stuff, the n900 has the same issue |
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| 17:31.42 | GNUtoo|bug20 | in recent kernels |
| 17:31.49 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, hi |
| 17:31.53 | dan1j3l | hi |
| 17:31.54 | GNUtoo|bug20 | like the 2.6.37-next one in gitorious |
| 17:32.14 | Cotulla | u didn't answer about WebOS? :P |
| 17:32.41 | dan1j3l | yeah, i had problems with power yesterday |
| 17:32.48 | Cotulla | so u got any progress? |
| 17:33.05 | dan1j3l | webos: prepared rootfs, booted to shell |
| 17:33.24 | dan1j3l | after that i had other stuff to do |
| 17:33.36 | Cotulla | shell? |
| 17:33.38 | Cotulla | u mean GUI? |
| 17:33.42 | dan1j3l | but i will continue this weekend |
| 17:33.50 | dan1j3l | no cmd line |
| 17:34.00 | Cotulla | hm |
| 17:34.16 | dan1j3l | didn't have much time to play with |
| 17:34.33 | dan1j3l | and rootfs is fucked up (i think some older revision) |
| 17:34.38 | Cotulla | there no X11? |
| 17:34.47 | Cotulla | they using rootfs? |
| 17:35.12 | dan1j3l | no they use some sort of images |
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| 17:35.40 | dan1j3l | i don't remember exact format, but i googled to extract files from them |
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| 17:35.54 | Cotulla | official roms available? |
| 17:35.54 | dan1j3l | it was messy :D |
| 17:36.31 | dan1j3l | don't know, i found one image on some forum |
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| 17:37.47 | rzk_ | GNUtoo|bug20: linux on adruino? what for? |
| 17:38.10 | GNUtoo|bug20 | rzk_, no, another device |
| 17:38.16 | Cotulla | better to start from official rom |
| 17:38.21 | dan1j3l | cotulla: anyway, now fucking with ril_wrapper |
| 17:38.22 | GNUtoo|bug20 | rzk_, linux won't run on arduino |
| 17:38.38 | GNUtoo|bug20 | even uclinux won't run |
| 17:38.50 | rzk_ | ah, ok (: |
| 17:38.52 | GNUtoo|bug20 | but the device is *like* an arduino with linux inside |
| 17:39.02 | dan1j3l | cotulla: u need s/n to download official rom from palm site |
| 17:39.05 | GNUtoo|bug20 | GNU/Linux that is |
| 17:39.19 | rzk_ | that would be strange to run linux on hobby microcontroller system. |
| 17:40.02 | rzk_ | now messing up with Ingenic's JZ4725B player board |
| 17:40.51 | Cotulla | so we need volunteer , who wanna help up ;) |
| 17:40.55 | dan1j3l | cotulla: i think now with working rmnet we can dump buggy ril_wrapper, at least i did |
| 17:41.35 | dan1j3l | volunteer for what ? |
| 17:41.56 | Cotulla | for downloading official rom and giving it to us |
| 17:42.08 | dan1j3l | ow, that would be nice :p |
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| 17:42.13 | Cotulla | some kind of dirty work ^^ |
| 17:42.26 | dan1j3l | yeah, hehe :D |
| 17:43.43 | Cotulla | dunno if ever any device will have such big community like LEO |
| 17:44.18 | dan1j3l | that's true :) |
| 17:44.44 | Cotulla | a lot of new models they are only for one operator |
| 17:46.29 | Cotulla | ever have full working WebOS will be nice |
| 17:47.25 | dan1j3l | but first we need good official WORKING rom |
| 17:47.35 | dan1j3l | not some crap like with meego |
| 17:47.45 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:47.53 | Cotulla | there some devices with 7227 |
| 17:47.55 | AstainHellbring | webos? why webos? |
| 17:48.10 | Cotulla | but there 320x480 |
| 17:49.10 | Cotulla | or HP Pre |
| 17:49.14 | Cotulla | already have WVGA |
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| 17:50.06 | dan1j3l | AstainHellbring: it's new kid on the block, and we want to see how will work on leo :) |
| 17:50.48 | dan1j3l | and we have nothing smarter to do now... :) |
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| 17:52.14 | crawling | 720p love ? not that i need it, just wanted to see it done, and it's smarter ^^ |
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| 17:52.49 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:52.57 | arrrghhh | how about XTRA |
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| 17:53.04 | arrrghhh | that could benefit many devices, not just leo. |
| 17:53.07 | dan1j3l | 720p is overrated... |
| 17:53.43 | crawling | it is dan1j3l, as i said, i dont need it. but, it would be nice to see it acomplished |
| 17:54.00 | Cotulla | heh, so stop mention it? |
| 17:54.17 | arrrghhh | XTRA XTRA! :P |
| 17:54.24 | Cotulla | GPS? |
| 17:54.27 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 17:54.38 | arrrghhh | injection like QuickGPS |
| 17:54.56 | arrrghhh | there's some other mess Entropy512 was talking about with warm-boot injection of data too, not really clear on that. |
| 17:55.08 | Cotulla | don't know |
| 17:55.13 | Cotulla | who need this |
| 17:55.20 | arrrghhh | anyone who enjoys using gps? |
| 17:55.27 | Cotulla | why not just wait util it found sattelites |
| 17:55.33 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:55.37 | AstainHellbring | lol dan1j3l |
| 17:55.42 | arrrghhh | cuz it sometimes takes 15 minutes to find sats |
| 17:55.43 | [acl] | injection ? |
| 17:55.53 | arrrghhh | and with quickgps/something similar it would be less than 30s Cotulla |
| 17:56.01 | [acl] | im scared of needles :-p |
| 17:56.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:56.33 | Cotulla | u have good reason |
| 17:56.36 | Cotulla | to read a book |
| 17:56.38 | Cotulla | or etc... |
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| 17:57.07 | Cotulla | just 15 mins of free time |
| 17:57.10 | arrrghhh | XTRA would just help with lock times... and finally ditching winmo. |
| 17:57.35 | arrrghhh | if you get a lock in winmo before booting android, or use quickgps before booting android, lock times are significantly shorter. |
| 17:57.43 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:57.50 | MN-- | by a navigation system and tape it to the phone problem sorted :p |
| 17:58.00 | Cotulla | u think I know that is "lock times"? |
| 17:58.01 | arrrghhh | yea no. |
| 17:58.02 | Cotulla | lol |
| 17:58.12 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, i have faith :D |
| 17:58.19 | arrrghhh | i must go to lunch tho, bb |
| 17:58.21 | Cotulla | what is faith? |
| 17:58.30 | Cotulla | oh it's vera |
| 17:58.35 | Cotulla | funny word |
| 17:58.52 | Cotulla | looks like death |
| 17:58.54 | Cotulla | however |
| 17:59.10 | AstainHellbring | dan1j3l why not sybmian ^3 instead? |
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| 18:00.53 | dan1j3l | never thought about symbia... |
| 18:01.21 | dan1j3l | and it's not that interesting |
| 18:01.41 | machiche | hi, i'm about to compile a gingerbread kernel for future porting on the HTC Whitestone, any advice? |
| 18:01.55 | MN-- | webos is more interesting but seems it would be hard to port no? |
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| 18:13.15 | machiche | hi, i'm about to compile a gingerbread kernel for future porting on the HTC Whitestone MSM7600 dual CDMA/GSM (not a 7600a), any advice? |
| 18:15.31 | dan1j3l | machiche: read wiki on http://htc-linux.org and happy compiling :) |
| 18:18.08 | dan1j3l | hmm, data and phone working nice without wrapper, more tests during night and tomorrow... |
| 18:18.19 | MN-- | quick q if i have spl 3.03 and run hspl4 can i flash 2.08hspl or do i flash 3.03hspl first then the other one |
| 18:18.23 | MN-- | dan1j3l: on web0 |
| 18:18.27 | MN-- | *webos? |
| 18:18.42 | dan1j3l | no, android |
| 18:19.09 | MN-- | ah which wrapper? |
| 18:20.00 | dan1j3l | libhtc_ril_wrapper |
| 18:20.11 | MN-- | for rmnet or ppp |
| 18:20.28 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, why u don't want fix PPP? |
| 18:20.33 | dan1j3l | rmnet |
| 18:20.45 | dan1j3l | why ti fix ppp ? |
| 18:20.48 | dan1j3l | to* |
| 18:21.01 | dan1j3l | when we have rmnet :p |
| 18:21.07 | MN-- | clk ;) |
| 18:21.41 | dan1j3l | clk is nice |
| 18:21.58 | MN-- | but ppp sucks lol |
| 18:22.04 | dan1j3l | yeah... |
| 18:22.06 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 18:22.43 | machiche | thc dan1j3l, i'm on it, |
| 18:22.46 | dan1j3l | it's nice that cedesmith fixed "cold" charging on clk |
| 18:22.53 | MN-- | it still sticks looses connection etc |
| 18:23.07 | Cotulla | because it's not implemented... |
| 18:23.09 | MN-- | yeah plus they got rom manager working as well |
| 18:25.31 | MN-- | cotulla implement it then :P |
| 18:26.04 | Cotulla | I spend my time for my rmnet already :P |
| 18:26.30 | dan1j3l | tbh i never had any problems with ppp, or rmnet |
| 18:27.00 | dan1j3l | so u don't fix something that ain't broken :D |
| 18:27.11 | Cotulla | right. |
| 18:27.18 | MN-- | rmnet is fine for me but ppp dont so good for me and others |
| 18:27.34 | MN-- | Cotulla: i meant cold charging ;) |
| 18:27.40 | dan1j3l | if it works, it works, U DON'T ASK HOW :D |
| 18:27.47 | Cotulla | yeah, I am working under it |
| 18:28.27 | Cotulla | as well under new MAGLDR features ;) |
| 18:28.52 | MN-- | what else needs to be added lol :P |
| 18:29.00 | Cotulla | secret :P |
| 18:29.21 | dan1j3l | fastboot, independent partition formating... |
| 18:29.38 | Cotulla | no it's something else ;) |
| 18:30.07 | arif-ali | fastboot would be cool, or terminal, type thing similar to adb |
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| 18:51.27 | MN-- | dan1j3l: which webos official rom you need |
| 18:53.17 | dan1j3l | anyone, maybe for pre 2 |
| 18:54.56 | MN-- | okay |
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| 19:30.07 | GNUtoo|bug20 | webos room is at #webos-internals |
| 19:30.16 | GNUtoo|bug20 | dan1j3l, ^^^ |
| 19:30.55 | Cotulla | u have three eyes? OoO? |
| 19:31.06 | Cotulla | :P |
| 19:31.11 | dan1j3l | :p |
| 19:31.26 | dan1j3l | GNUtoo|bug20: thnx :) |
| 19:34.29 | fakker | privet, sveiki, hello |
| 19:35.07 | Cotulla | hola |
| 19:35.10 | fakker | poka |
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| 20:09.57 | bioterror | http://www.opera.com/mobile/next/ symbian :D |
| 20:10.10 | dcordes | hi |
| 20:11.16 | dcordes | is also very curious about alsa |
| 20:11.21 | dcordes | tre9: still around ? |
| 20:11.35 | Cotulla | dc, was busy with learning this week |
| 20:12.21 | dcordes | killes: nice link you found there ! |
| 20:12.40 | dcordes | http://sven.killig.de/meego/ ############################# Kernel 2.6.35.4 with USB host, framebuffer console and USB HID+Ethernet: |
| 20:12.56 | dcordes | git clone git://gitorious.org/meego-porting/nexusone.git |
| 20:13.31 | dcordes | Cotulla: lol I should have been too... do you think it is a realistic aim to make it work ? |
| 20:13.44 | Cotulla | ya why not |
| 20:15.06 | dcordes | because I don't know about the complexity of the problem |
| 20:15.26 | Cotulla | I don't see big problems? |
| 20:15.39 | dcordes | actually I have no doubts looking at how fast you made the adsp leo ready .. |
| 20:15.56 | Cotulla | u mean original sound? |
| 20:16.02 | dcordes | SHR is further evolving so if it will work we will have a nice platform to showcase |
| 20:16.07 | dcordes | yes |
| 20:16.16 | Cotulla | it was done by two weeks of hard work at summer... |
| 20:16.26 | Cotulla | or maybe one |
| 20:16.43 | Cotulla | but ALSA can use android interface, so it's easy |
| 20:17.02 | Cotulla | ya maybe WebOS also later |
| 20:17.09 | Cotulla | looks to danj13 side |
| 20:17.09 | dcordes | aha ok |
| 20:17.16 | dcordes | dan1j3l1: you have webos devices ? |
| 20:17.40 | dan1j3l1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.58 | dan1j3l1 | why |
| 20:18.21 | dcordes | dan1j3l1: because Cotulla looked your way after mentioning meego |
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| 20:18.48 | Cotulla | at least I am think dan1j3l1 someone who can bring WebOS :P |
| 20:18.58 | dan1j3l1 | hehe... :) |
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| 20:19.34 | dcordes | oh btw, I discussed the situation about non-android linux forums on xda |
| 20:19.46 | dcordes | I still think it's dumb to make distro specific sections |
| 20:19.53 | dcordes | we should have one unified non-android linux forum |
| 20:19.57 | Cotulla | today I was in computer shop and so meego adventure banner (?) I was schocked |
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| 20:20.04 | dcordes | for ubuntu, shr, meego, webos ... |
| 20:20.13 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 20:20.17 | Cotulla | are u talking about LEO section? |
| 20:20.21 | dcordes | yes |
| 20:20.22 | Cotulla | or general |
| 20:20.25 | dcordes | leo |
| 20:20.33 | dcordes | maybe it would also make sense for all devices |
| 20:20.35 | killes | dcordes: I've also found another interesting link: http://linux-qcm-msm.sourcearchive.com/ THis contains the old kernel driver and is ust one version away from the 2.6.32 kernel that is in my device. |
| 20:20.35 | Cotulla | yeah, meego died, so it can be excluded |
| 20:20.45 | Cotulla | shr/ubuntu can be at one subforum |
| 20:20.54 | bioterror | Cotulla, still that fud |
| 20:21.22 | killes | tre9: btw, I don't think that simply configuring the kernel will suffice, there need to be some changes done on the device-specific files. |
| 20:21.24 | Cotulla | anyway, if Nokia leave, I doubt it will have good ARM version |
| 20:21.26 | Jhinta | hey decordes --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9o2BRBZq9o framebuffer sync problem orso? |
| 20:21.30 | bioterror | didnt I paste roadmap about Meego |
| 20:21.33 | Cotulla | only X86 from intel maybe |
| 20:21.47 | dcordes | killes: we should collect these link in [[Leo]] and [[Nexusone]] |
| 20:21.47 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo |
| 20:21.48 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nexusone |
| 20:22.13 | killes | dcordes: isn't the killig one well known? |
| 20:22.27 | Cotulla | anyway I saw 4 FPS on my device and this with native code! wtf! enough. they can put this @$*&@$&^& into $&*@^$&@^ (put right words instead of symbols) |
| 20:22.33 | dan1j3l1 | btw dcordes how is ubuntu via magldr ? |
| 20:22.40 | killes | dcordes: the other one belongs to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-qcm-msm/ |
| 20:22.55 | bioterror | Cotulla, which version of Meego did you run? |
| 20:23.11 | Cotulla | it was build from Jan 5 afaik |
| 20:23.14 | dcordes | killes: for future reference it can never harm to put such things in our wiki |
| 20:23.20 | killes | dcordes: also, there is native USB OTG support in 2.6.38 |
| 20:23.25 | killes | k |
| 20:23.36 | bioterror | Cotulla, I would like to know how 1.2 runs |
| 20:23.40 | dcordes | killes: I discussed it with markinus. he tried to port codeaurora otg support to leo |
| 20:23.47 | killes | but I don't even know for which device the 2nd one is... |
| 20:23.49 | dcordes | killes: s/leo/tsunagi/ |
| 20:23.55 | Cotulla | I don't know, I abandoned development two months ago.. and happy |
| 20:24.12 | Cotulla | too buggy to develop it. |
| 20:24.31 | Cotulla | and it's why I have negative opinion about meego :) |
| 20:24.34 | killes | dcordes: https://www.xda-developers.com/android/usb-host-driver-ported-to-desire-hd-usb-devices-rejoice/ <== also found this. |
| 20:24.48 | dcordes | Cotulla: I will focus on SHR regarding leo |
| 20:24.54 | Cotulla | okay |
| 20:24.57 | dan1j3l1 | meego was too buggy and not widely supported |
| 20:25.01 | dcordes | rmnet works |
| 20:25.25 | bioterror | dan1j3l1, couple of weeks and 1.2 is out |
| 20:25.30 | Cotulla | I maybe will contribute to SHR-LEO also. |
| 20:25.37 | bioterror | maybe we'll see some improvement |
| 20:25.55 | Cotulla | why I need meego, if I already have WP7? lol |
| 20:26.02 | dcordes | killes: ok feel free to throw everything in the wiki it's good to have a place to look for different usb information because tehre are so many relevant source repos |
| 20:26.15 | killes | ok, I'll try |
| 20:27.15 | tre9 | killes: sorry if I over-simplified. glad you looked into it more |
| 20:27.18 | tre9 | dcordes: hi |
| 20:27.47 | dcordes | Cotulla: one buggy OS is enough :) ? |
| 20:27.49 | dcordes | tre9: hi there |
| 20:28.06 | dcordes | tre9: leo non-android bluetooth is an interesting point |
| 20:28.25 | Cotulla | :D |
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| 20:28.38 | tre9 | looks like SHR-LEO is the way forward |
| 20:28.44 | dcordes | tre9: I don't have much clue about it though. it is provided by bcm4329 right ? |
| 20:28.51 | Cotulla | Bluetooth should work with BlueZ |
| 20:28.57 | Cotulla | but without FM ofcourse |
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| 20:29.06 | Cotulla | I guess nexus one have all sources for BT |
| 20:29.40 | dcordes | tre9: anything linux and not android shares common problems. the android kernel-userspace interaction is different on android vs classical linux: alsa, bluetooth, backlight, etc |
| 20:29.41 | Cotulla | but there special program exist, which setup settings for BCM like higher baud rate. |
| 20:29.49 | dcordes | tre9: ..., audio routing |
| 20:30.04 | dcordes | Cotulla: what program? in andorid rootfs ? |
| 20:30.51 | dan1j3l1 | and if does not exist it can be made :) |
| 20:31.22 | dcordes | tre9: shr and ubuntu both have individual qualities so I'm interested in both programs. we might replace ofono with freesmartphone.org (gsm layer in SHR) in fugure |
| 20:31.43 | mickey| | excellent choice ;) |
| 20:31.59 | Cotulla | brcm_patchram_plus |
| 20:32.01 | Cotulla | + hci file |
| 20:32.19 | Cotulla | it come with source ever |
| 20:32.44 | dcordes | s/programs/distros/ |
| 20:33.17 | dan1j3l1 | apt is dead :p |
| 20:33.21 | Cotulla | apt die |
| 20:33.21 | apt | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 20:33.28 | dcordes | mickey|: I have seen debian/ubuntu have fso already but unfortunately obsolete. will it be difficult to set it up from scratch ? |
| 20:33.34 | Cotulla | heh |
| 20:35.25 | dcordes | hopes it will be as easy as make; make install |
| 20:35.30 | tre9 | Cotulla: thanks for brcm_patchram_plus hint |
| 20:35.39 | mickey| | dcordes: it's a bunch of dependencies to install, but all is autotoolized |
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| 20:36.14 | dcordes | Cotulla: bcm_patchram_plus + hci file comes with source from... some android bcm4329.git ? |
| 20:36.27 | dcordes | mickey|: awesome |
| 20:37.12 | dcordes | mickey|: any hint about gui to pick ? is there something gnome-ish ? |
| 20:38.01 | Cotulla | u can google brcm_patchram_plus |
| 20:38.12 | Cotulla | hci file comes from official rom I guess |
| 20:38.40 | dcordes | site:kernel.org brcm_patchram_plus |
| 20:38.51 | dcordes | hci file = firmware ? |
| 20:39.41 | mickey| | dcordes: i'm afraid not. i have been wanting to work on UI, but i can't find time. middleware is taking all spare time i can bear |
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| 20:43.00 | Cotulla | there some kind of commands for init |
| 20:44.04 | dcordes | tre9: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/bluetooth.git this contains it |
| 20:44.50 | tre9 | thanks, I'm searching for hci file with init |
| 20:45.08 | dcordes | do you have some android rootfs for the hd2 ? |
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| 20:48.06 | tre9 | yes, do you think it's in there already? |
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| 20:48.36 | dcordes | according to coutlla it's included in official rom file and I suspect it will be in every non-official rom that supports bluetooth too |
| 20:49.18 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 20:49.19 | Cotulla | it's there |
| 20:50.15 | dcordes | tre9: we should consider creating a .deb package to install all scripts and other modifications required to turn a bare ubuntu arm rootfs into a ubuntu on hd2 rootfs |
| 20:50.48 | dcordes | via chroot or so |
| 20:51.14 | dcordes | or qemu.. but I never got ubuntu rootfs to start successfully with qemu |
| 20:51.38 | tre9 | ok, found bcrm_patchram_plus exactly where Cotulla said, but I was looking in wrong distro |
| 20:52.18 | tre9 | is "hci file" hciattach? |
| 20:53.06 | dan1j3l1 | hciattach - HCI UART driver initialization utility |
| 20:53.30 | tre9 | dcordes: I like the .deb idea. I will try to start it at least. |
| 20:53.49 | dcordes | tre9: it's stolen from tmzt_ |
| 20:54.10 | Cotulla | there |
| 20:54.12 | Cotulla | init.rc |
| 20:54.18 | Cotulla | start bluetooth service |
| 20:54.24 | Cotulla | and looks like this file executed before |
| 20:55.40 | dan1j3l1 | service hciattach /system/bin/brcm_patchram_plus --enable_hci --baudrate 3000000 --patchram /etc/firmware/bcm4329.hcd /dev/ttyHS0 |
| 20:56.17 | dcordes | killes: meego on nexusone seems to be sven's university project work |
| 20:56.25 | Cotulla | heh |
| 20:56.28 | Cotulla | good luck to them |
| 20:56.29 | Cotulla | :D :D :D |
| 20:56.42 | Cotulla | sadistic laugh behind scene |
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| 20:57.14 | Cotulla | now u have a break before act #2 |
| 20:57.46 | killes | dcordes: do you mean that this guarantees that something will come out of it? :p |
| 20:58.26 | dcordes | killes: no I just felt the need to share it |
| 21:00.07 | dcordes | I think you could fill several bachelor / master thesises filled with contents around related projects |
| 21:00.11 | dcordes | in CS |
| 21:00.43 | Cotulla | go go go? |
| 21:00.49 | Cotulla | or CriticalSection |
| 21:01.02 | Cotulla | I have only two associations with this word "CS" |
| 21:01.19 | dcordes | counter strike and cyber sex ? |
| 21:01.50 | Cotulla | no, Counter Strike and CRITICAL_SECTION |
| 21:01.51 | Cotulla | :P |
| 21:01.58 | dcordes | io right |
| 21:02.08 | dcordes | theres also computer science |
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| 21:27.07 | dcordes | http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/innovation/ wondering what they expect from these statements |
| 21:27.12 | dcordes | nobody will like them better for it |
| 21:27.55 | Cotulla | ? |
| 21:29.10 | tre9 | looks like the android hciattach is very different from GNU/linux hciattach |
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| 21:29.42 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 21:29.42 | dcordes | tre9: did you compile it or pick the binary from android rootfs? |
| 21:29.48 | tre9 | I tried copying the bcrm_patchram_plus and bcm4329.hcd files |
| 21:30.01 | Cotulla | binary should have imports for android-log |
| 21:30.10 | Cotulla | so it should not run without android |
| 21:31.41 | tre9 | I tried both linux hciattach and copying the android hciattach |
| 21:31.56 | tre9 | I didn't compile |
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| 21:35.40 | Cotulla | and? |
| 21:35.41 | Cotulla | fail? |
| 21:39.16 | tre9 | I tried running copied bcrm_patchram_plus and it gave: |
| 21:39.17 | tre9 | bash: /android_bin/brcm_patchram_plus: No such file or directory |
| 21:39.25 | tre9 | I guess a linking error? |
| 21:42.29 | Cotulla | don't think so |
| 21:42.30 | Cotulla | no file |
| 21:43.25 | tre9 | do I need to compile brcm_patchram_plus in linux? |
| 21:43.48 | Cotulla | I think yes |
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| 21:45.30 | dcordes | tre9: git clone git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/system/bluetooth.git |
| 21:45.58 | dcordes | tre9: I guess we need to pull the dependencies and compile it with static linking |
| 21:46.10 | dcordes | ~lart android build systems |
| 21:46.10 | apt | blasts android build systems with a huge firehose then strangles android build systems with it |
| 21:46.54 | Cotulla | something like this,right |
| 21:47.45 | tre9 | ok, I will try in a few hours. (without firehose) |
| 21:48.40 | tre9 | g2g |
| 21:48.41 | Cotulla | I guess it mandatory |
| 21:48.50 | dcordes | tre9: see you |
| 21:48.53 | Cotulla | bb |
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| 21:53.22 | Entropy512 | hmm, that AlwaysInnovating company looks sort of interesting, but tbh their rhetoric is a bit of a turnoff |
| 21:56.05 | WisTilt2 | hey rpierce99: good timing. are you in a position to run this .so #16 and shoot me a log? need to get some return values so i can proceed. |
| 21:56.11 | dcordes | Entropy512: that was my point. why don't they put it 'we were the first to invent a tablet device with detachable keyboard but we screwed up because we did not get a patent so we suck. don't buy our product.' |
| 21:56.15 | rpierce99 | absolutely |
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| 21:57.56 | NeoMatrixJR | damn... just about to go home and NOW WisTilt2 signs on. |
| 21:57.59 | Entropy512 | Yeah, but it's not just that - look at the rhetoric here - look at the anti-carrier rhetoric here - https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/products/minibook.htm |
| 21:58.01 | Entropy512 | which says |
| 21:58.15 | Entropy512 | "you won't have data anywhere there is no wi-fi" |
| 21:59.04 | Entropy512 | when did they release Android for it? Maybe their original OS sucked and they're the ones copying the Android tablet trend? |
| 21:59.16 | rpierce99 | while it's rebooting, just boot, get data connection, and log? |
| 21:59.21 | NeoMatrixJR | laters... |
| 21:59.31 | rpierce99 | see ya NeoMatrixJR |
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| 22:00.26 | dcordes | Entropy512: that site is one big fail really |
| 22:00.36 | Entropy512 | oh if you look at the details - Android 1.6 in "proof of concept" status |
| 22:00.45 | Entropy512 | "working on upgrade to 2.1" |
| 22:00.45 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99 after data, let it sit for a couple minutes to pull several cmds from the tower |
| 22:00.46 | Entropy512 | fail |
| 22:00.54 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: k sounds good |
| 22:01.10 | WisTilt2 | should all be the same, just want to make sure |
| 22:01.23 | dcordes | Entropy512: they should go positive and market it as a toy for embedded linux geeks |
| 22:01.48 | Entropy512 | yeah, they might have some slight success there |
| 22:02.00 | Entropy512 | but tbh there are probably better toys for embedded linux geeks |
| 22:02.06 | Entropy512 | like a PandaBoard if you can find one |
| 22:02.07 | Entropy512 | :P |
| 22:02.27 | dcordes | or htcleo |
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| 22:05.36 | Cotulla | ya, because u may become CE geek instead of linux geek :D |
| 22:05.47 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: should I be locked in E? |
| 22:06.34 | rpierce99 | n/m it went to 3g now |
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| 22:17.00 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99 sorry phone again. 3g or whatever mode is fine. looking at log now. |
| 22:18.19 | WisTilt2 | nice, got just what i was looking for:) thanks. will have another test later after i make all these changes. |
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| 22:18.44 | rpierce99 | cool, glad to help, ping me if you need anything else |
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| 22:50.23 | jonpry | hi WisTilt2 |
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