| 00:01.04 | jonpry | rpierce99, 600 measurements would be ok if it covered a lot of state of charge. its kind of useless if its all 100-90 % |
| 00:01.20 | arrrghhh | jonpry, mine will be pretty useless then. |
| 00:01.37 | arrrghhh | especially since i have no clue what battery level is supposed to be at now. |
| 00:01.57 | jonpry | get new scbs. should work between 4 and 100 |
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| 00:02.14 | rpierce99 | jonpry it was on and off the charger for sure, certainly not a lot of range of battery though, pretty much full the whole time |
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| 00:02.38 | jonpry | yeah we need more drain. battery parameters are not constant |
| 00:02.41 | arrrghhh | jonpry, i have the newest scbs |
| 00:02.44 | arrrghhh | unless there's another? |
| 00:03.34 | rpierce99 | jonpry: well if it's helpful at all: http://pastebin.com/2NHbEESC |
| 00:03.37 | jonpry | i dunno i made one 20 minutes ago? |
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| 00:09.37 | rpierce99 | well WisTilt2 I was finally able to go fast enough |
| 00:09.52 | rpierce99 | echo -e 'AT+CREG=2\r' > /dev/smd0 |
| 00:09.52 | rpierce99 | echo -e 'AT+HTC_SRV_STATUS?\r' > /dev/smd0 |
| 00:10.14 | rpierce99 | but it didn't change SRV_STATUS, still just 0,2,"" |
| 00:12.08 | WisTilt2 | ok thanks for trying. going to set this stuff up during init and see what we get. |
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| 00:17.09 | rpierce99 | jonpry: the new scbs fixed the charging icon |
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| 00:20.49 | jonpry | another SOD |
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| 00:23.06 | arrrghhh | so there is another new scbs? damnit, should've grabbed it. had a reboot to winmo. |
| 00:23.30 | jonpry | new as of 7:00 AST |
| 00:24.08 | arrrghhh | AST? |
| 00:24.14 | rpierce99 | yeah i have no idea what ast is |
| 00:24.18 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:24.20 | arrrghhh | alaska? |
| 00:24.28 | jonpry | atlantic |
| 00:24.35 | jonpry | edt+1 |
| 00:24.40 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 00:24.41 | arrrghhh | boonies |
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| 00:24.45 | rpierce99 | ah, ocean time |
| 00:24.45 | arrrghhh | 1900 right |
| 00:24.56 | jonpry | yeah |
| 00:25.00 | arrrghhh | bleh, don't have that. |
| 00:25.06 | arrrghhh | don't feel like rebooting yet either :P |
| 00:25.21 | arrrghhh | jonpry, i usually do drain testing over night |
| 00:25.21 | jonpry | you don't need to reboot |
| 00:25.26 | arrrghhh | would it be ok to just let it run overnight? |
| 00:25.31 | jonpry | sure |
| 00:25.34 | rpierce99 | killall scbs |
| 00:25.36 | rpierce99 | adb push |
| 00:25.41 | rpierce99 | chmod |
| 00:25.44 | rpierce99 | etc |
| 00:26.03 | arrrghhh | o right |
| 00:26.04 | arrrghhh | i was thinking new kernel |
| 00:26.11 | arrrghhh | i was grabbing both :P |
| 00:26.13 | jonpry | actually kill -9 it |
| 00:26.22 | arrrghhh | ah kill -9 |
| 00:26.26 | arrrghhh | it'll kill chuck norris |
| 00:26.33 | arrrghhh | assuming you can find his PID |
| 00:26.38 | rpierce99 | no that would be kill >9000 |
| 00:26.42 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:28.13 | arrrghhh | well if it's just a new scbs i can do that. |
| 00:29.53 | rpierce99 | I'm going to turn on gps and leave it on, should drain in a shorter time that way |
| 00:30.21 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:30.28 | arrrghhh | i'm going to watch a youtube video |
| 00:30.32 | arrrghhh | download stuff from the market |
| 00:30.34 | arrrghhh | turn on gps |
| 00:30.38 | arrrghhh | and o my phone reboots |
| 00:30.39 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 00:31.38 | jonpry | just hope you don't get sod |
| 00:32.25 | arrrghhh | i rarely get those |
| 00:32.33 | arrrghhh | it was only in spotty service areas that i got those. |
| 00:33.10 | jonpry | anyone ever try no_console_suspend? |
| 00:33.16 | arrrghhh | nope |
| 00:33.54 | rpierce99 | haha i let the phone sleep with gps on and was wondering why it never went to blinking green |
| 00:34.10 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 00:34.15 | jonpry | so nobody has ever gotten a ram console from sod? |
| 00:34.17 | arrrghhh | too used to WisTilt2's kernel eh |
| 00:34.30 | arrrghhh | jonpry, not without it being garbled to all hell AFAIK |
| 00:35.01 | jonpry | mine is not garbled, its just cut off from console suspend |
| 00:35.10 | arrrghhh | hrm |
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| 00:36.23 | arrrghhh | should get some good logs for you after work today, assuming my phone doesn't blow up again. |
| 00:36.45 | jonpry | cool thanks |
| 00:37.01 | arrrghhh | anytime man. |
| 00:37.19 | arrrghhh | all in the name of improving this awesome project :D |
| 00:37.41 | jonpry | i think we are close. |
| 00:37.43 | arrrghhh | this new scbs shows battery levels much more accurately so far. |
| 00:38.07 | arrrghhh | we definitely are! i'm excited about this new RIL and NAND getting ironed out. as much as you hate it, i want to reboot to android not winmo :P |
| 00:38.15 | stinebd | new ril?! |
| 00:38.20 | arrrghhh | stinebd, shhh |
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| 00:38.26 | stinebd | where! |
| 00:38.30 | arrrghhh | not released |
| 00:38.34 | stinebd | why! |
| 00:38.38 | arrrghhh | not ready |
| 00:38.45 | stinebd | i'm a dev. everything gets released to me. |
| 00:38.54 | arrrghhh | when it's ready |
| 00:38.55 | arrrghhh | boy |
| 00:39.27 | jonpry | in startup.txt we need no_console_suspend=1 |
| 00:39.28 | stinebd | seriously though, who why where when |
| 00:39.46 | arrrghhh | stinebd, WisTilt2's radio monkey, when it's ready, and because our RIL blows donkey balls. |
| 00:39.57 | stinebd | and source? |
| 00:40.09 | arrrghhh | when it's tested and comitted |
| 00:40.10 | arrrghhh | i'm sure |
| 00:40.14 | arrrghhh | until then... doubtful. |
| 00:40.19 | arrrghhh | committed |
| 00:40.27 | stinebd | and based on ours or original? |
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| 00:40.38 | arrrghhh | loosely based on ours from the sounds of it. |
| 00:40.45 | stinebd | lame |
| 00:40.48 | arrrghhh | do we have an original? |
| 00:40.50 | arrrghhh | i thought that was the problem. |
| 00:40.58 | stinebd | ours is original |
| 00:41.01 | arrrghhh | wtf |
| 00:41.10 | jonpry | vogue ril |
| 00:41.13 | stinebd | if that ril was not based on ours, it would be original |
| 00:41.23 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 00:41.38 | arrrghhh | it sounds like he's plucking out the good stuff |
| 00:41.42 | arrrghhh | and rewriting the rest. |
| 00:41.42 | stinebd | jonpry: it's so much different now that it doesn't matter where it came from |
| 00:42.04 | stinebd | and vogue's is just the reference ril anyway :P |
| 00:42.33 | arrrghhh | my moustache is getting long. |
| 00:42.42 | arrrghhh | http://valencia.theoffside.com/files/2009/08/moustache.jpg |
| 00:43.07 | stinebd | and that was over a year ago |
| 00:43.19 | arrrghhh | i know, i wish that was my moustache |
| 00:43.52 | rpierce99 | hey arrrghhh take it to -chat!!!! :P |
| 00:44.05 | jonpry | lol |
| 00:44.06 | stinebd | yeah this isn't for facial hair support |
| 00:44.17 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 00:44.21 | rpierce99 | #facialhair |
| 00:44.24 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 00:44.28 | rpierce99 | #moustache |
| 00:44.30 | arrrghhh | aw |
| 00:44.36 | arrrghhh | i got excited, hoping that was a room. |
| 00:44.46 | arrrghhh | heyhey that last one is |
| 00:45.10 | rpierce99 | nice! 7 other moustache lovers |
| 00:50.36 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol i think he's mad that i kicked you. he op'd me and then i kicked you LOL |
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| 00:51.50 | BruceLee | hello |
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| 00:56.21 | rpierce99 | haha that's awesome, i hope they kickban you into the next room |
| 00:56.33 | arrrghhh | into #facialhair? lol |
| 00:56.36 | arrrghhh | no i'm talking to them. |
| 00:56.40 | arrrghhh | well, that one dude. |
| 00:57.14 | rpierce99 | yeah, eminem |
| 00:57.35 | arrrghhh | rabbit |
| 00:57.48 | rpierce99 | sorry that was an "8 mile" joke, don't know if you'll catch that |
| 00:58.07 | arrrghhh | ok, the backspace key is now working perfectly. |
| 00:58.10 | arrrghhh | this makes me ANGRY |
| 00:58.12 | arrrghhh | ARRRGHHH |
| 01:02.34 | arrrghhh | what a nice frenchman. |
| 01:02.39 | arrrghhh | phh, you didn't tell me these people existed. |
| 01:02.56 | jonpry | rpierce99, i ran the regression on your 600 points and it is within 10% of wistilt2 numbers |
| 01:03.22 | rpierce99 | yeah i'm not a mathematician, i have no idea what you just said |
| 01:03.38 | jonpry | me neither, but i think its good |
| 01:03.45 | rpierce99 | lol |
| 01:05.36 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: is that good or bad? |
| 01:06.17 | jonpry | i think its really good. means we are not computing arbitrary numbers, but something probably correlated to the battery |
| 01:06.43 | WisTilt2 | was he on a 1amp charger as i was? |
| 01:06.48 | jonpry | and we can probably get within 10% of reality with only 30 minutes of data |
| 01:07.08 | jonpry | he was off and on, which is good for calculating the surface capacitor |
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| 01:07.31 | rpierce99 | when i was charging it was from my macbook pro |
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| 01:15.12 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: im setting up a ril for you and arrrghhh to run that will dump info from the cell tower so we can fill in some of the missing cdma stuff we need. may have it ready later tonight so you guys can run it tomorrow for a couple days to collect data. |
| 01:16.53 | rpierce99 | dances |
| 01:17.55 | WisTilt2 | should be interesting to the differences between gsm and cdma towers |
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| 01:22.14 | jonpry | i think it is done enough so that the truly inspired can do the whole process and get correct battery measurements |
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| 01:30.24 | jonpry | the question is, who are the truly inspired? |
| 01:30.53 | rpierce99 | jonpry: what needs to be done? |
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| 01:31.50 | jonpry | mostly you get logs, then when you are satisfied, you get new scbs and run a bunch of commands to generate new battery model |
| 01:31.53 | jonpry | then you use it |
| 01:32.19 | rpierce99 | oh so this has to be done for every phone individually? |
| 01:33.59 | jonpry | or even every battery |
| 01:34.11 | jonpry | but i will automate it at some point |
| 01:34.17 | jonpry | so it will just start working |
| 01:34.38 | jonpry | but for the truly inspired, they can have it now |
| 01:34.52 | rpierce99 | got it |
| 01:35.22 | rpierce99 | once the process has been done once, does it survive reboots/upgrades/data wipes/etc |
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| 01:40.50 | jonpry | it doesn't survive anything atm, you have to pass the parameters via command line |
| 01:41.20 | jonpry | but as long as you have the log you can regenerate it. and i will make some kind of config file |
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| 01:41.51 | rpierce99 | so i guess my answer would be once it's portable enough that I can do it once and use it over and over again (think ts-calibration) and there's a decent walkthrough i think people would do it |
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| 01:58.20 | arrrghhh | i want to recalib my battery DAILY jonpry :P |
| 01:58.49 | jonpry | it takes like 20 minutes :p |
| 01:58.54 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 01:58.55 | arrrghhh | hourly. |
| 01:58.59 | jonpry | but scbs runs on x86 or arm |
| 01:59.09 | jonpry | so you can do it in 5 seconds on pc |
| 01:59.17 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 01:59.23 | arrrghhh | so that's what you were talking about |
| 01:59.44 | jonpry | indeed |
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| 02:01.06 | jonpry | arrrghhh, how big is your log? |
| 02:01.19 | arrrghhh | pretty big |
| 02:01.27 | arrrghhh | oh battery log |
| 02:01.36 | jonpry | lol |
| 02:01.40 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: are we 12? |
| 02:01.53 | arrrghhh | 13, thank you. |
| 02:01.53 | jonpry | we're trying to get there anyways |
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| 02:03.13 | sleekx | hello |
| 02:03.22 | sleekx | jonpry: anything you need testing with ? |
| 02:03.37 | arrrghhh | what phone you got sleekx |
| 02:03.46 | jonpry | i have a flashy battery meter if you don't care about wifi |
| 02:03.54 | jonpry | it will sort of work on all phones |
| 02:04.13 | sleekx | rhodium... but I am not sure which one. honestly never tested before. |
| 02:04.23 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 02:04.36 | sleekx | I am a developer/programmer though, so I can learn quickly what needs to be tested. |
| 02:04.47 | arrrghhh | battery meter magic |
| 02:04.50 | sleekx | got an unused rhod at home |
| 02:05.01 | arrrghhh | do you know C? |
| 02:05.03 | arrrghhh | kernel code? |
| 02:05.09 | sleekx | let me know which kernel, and if I need to compile anything. |
| 02:05.11 | arrrghhh | where are you comfortable? we can always use more devs. |
| 02:05.53 | jonpry | let me lookup the pastebin with the instruction |
| 02:06.02 | sleekx | I can compile a linux kernel, nothing much more than that. |
| 02:06.18 | arrrghhh | you said you were a programmer...? |
| 02:06.22 | rpierce99 | http://pastebin.com/Ju4vJvDt <-jonpry |
| 02:06.32 | jonpry | damn |
| 02:06.35 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:07.25 | sleekx | jonpry: I enjoy programming as a hobby. sadly don't have much time for any serious development anymore. |
| 02:07.36 | sleekx | I am familiar with linux dev environment though. |
| 02:07.49 | jonpry | we try not to take it too serious |
| 02:08.00 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 02:08.27 | rpierce99 | jonpry: how low do i need to get my battery before the log is good |
| 02:08.51 | jonpry | rpierce99, part of why you are doing this is that i can't answer that question |
| 02:08.56 | arrrghhh | yea i'm breaking 90% just barely |
| 02:09.06 | rpierce99 | i'm at 70% :) |
| 02:09.11 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 02:09.18 | arrrghhh | stupid tether :P |
| 02:09.32 | arrrghhh | i miss the open cxn i had for like.... 2 weeks. |
| 02:09.34 | jonpry | you need to download new scbs, but you can run scbs -n /sdcard/scbs.log to waste some cycles |
| 02:09.50 | jonpry | downloading a new one shouldn't interfere with the daemon |
| 02:10.04 | arrrghhh | another new one? |
| 02:10.08 | rpierce99 | you're suggesting I do that do drain the battery? |
| 02:10.17 | rpierce99 | s/do/to |
| 02:10.21 | jonpry | yeah it will waste tons of power |
| 02:10.25 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 02:10.41 | stinebd | dev tools has a cpu hogger doesn't it? |
| 02:10.44 | jonpry | and if keep running it, then we can tell when the numbers stop changing |
| 02:11.12 | arrrghhh | stinebd, which you removed from FRX05 :P |
| 02:11.20 | stinebd | so? |
| 02:11.23 | stinebd | build it yourself |
| 02:11.24 | stinebd | lazy |
| 02:11.29 | arrrghhh | yep |
| 02:11.37 | arrrghhh | probably is in the market too :P |
| 02:11.52 | rpierce99 | I have a spinning line |
| 02:12.01 | jonpry | yeah |
| 02:12.10 | stinebd | jonpry: how much time did you waste coding a spinner? |
| 02:12.16 | jonpry | it will do that for a long time |
| 02:12.21 | jonpry | stinebd, like 5 minutes |
| 02:12.25 | stinebd | man |
| 02:12.30 | stinebd | we could've had working gps in that time |
| 02:12.35 | rpierce99 | no it's done already |
| 02:12.40 | stinebd | but no we got some slashes and pipes instead |
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| 02:12.56 | jonpry | hrm |
| 02:12.56 | jonpry | rpierce99, what are the results? |
| 02:13.05 | sleekx | was typing to myself for 5 minutes :( |
| 02:13.14 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:13.24 | sleekx | anyway.. I will take a look again at the instruction and see how far I can get. |
| 02:13.53 | rpierce99 | initial voltage: -0.0, Rc: 0.106236, Re: 0.101003, Cc: 398.394801, Cb: 400.000000 |
| 02:14.02 | jonpry | thats no good |
| 02:14.07 | jonpry | how big is your scbs.log? |
| 02:14.32 | rpierce99 | is there a command to get a single file info? |
| 02:14.37 | stinebd | ls -l file |
| 02:14.55 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:15.10 | rpierce99 | it's 124563 |
| 02:15.11 | rpierce99 | haha |
| 02:15.25 | jonpry | on your old log with 600 lines, i get: Initial voltage: 3.769035, Rc: 0.423208, Re: 0.143140, Cc: 0.407665, Cb: 62.251352 |
| 02:15.41 | arrrghhh | bonus: if you do -h it shows it in "human-readable format" rpierce99 |
| 02:16.00 | arrrghhh | jonpry, mine is 108.5k |
| 02:16.19 | rpierce99 | 122.9K |
| 02:16.20 | rpierce99 | k |
| 02:16.25 | rpierce99 | no K |
| 02:16.27 | rpierce99 | haha |
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| 02:16.28 | jonpry | rpierce99, did you download the new scbs? old one can't parse that log format |
| 02:16.50 | rpierce99 | oh, not since 6:13pm |
| 02:17.02 | jonpry | what time zone? |
| 02:17.03 | stinebd | stop breaking backward compatibility with revision releases! |
| 02:17.03 | rpierce99 | CST |
| 02:17.14 | rpierce99 | 2 hours ago |
| 02:17.25 | sleekx | lol stinebd |
| 02:17.32 | jonpry | stinebd, its just that it didn't use to have self compatibility. it imported in wistilt2, and exported in its own |
| 02:17.47 | stinebd | i'm just razzing you, it's okay |
| 02:18.30 | arrrghhh | jonpry, hrm... i get similarly bad numbers. |
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| 02:19.11 | rpierce99 | so i can put in a new scbs without breaking my good log? |
| 02:19.14 | arrrghhh | Initial Voltage: -0.0, Rc: 0.099382, Re: 0.101003, Cc 397.382490, Cb 400.0 |
| 02:19.24 | jonpry | ok last built at 8:17 eastern |
| 02:19.36 | arrrghhh | Oo don't have that one. |
| 02:19.38 | rpierce99 | so yeah mine is older than that |
| 02:19.55 | arrrghhh | i was driving home when that one was released :P |
| 02:20.33 | rpierce99 | we need an scbs autobuild w/ twitter notifications :) |
| 02:20.38 | sleekx | push scbs means adb push ? |
| 02:20.50 | rpierce99 | sleekx: yes |
| 02:21.35 | jonpry | autobuild sounds good to me |
| 02:21.55 | jonpry | i think it might consist of pushing it to stinebd |
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| 02:22.04 | stinebd | whuh |
| 02:22.12 | rpierce99 | jonpry: so i can upgrade this without breaking the good log i have going? |
| 02:22.37 | jonpry | rpierce99, i think so |
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| 02:22.55 | jonpry | stinebd, need to put scbs in xdandroid for autobuild :p |
| 02:23.04 | jonpry | or stinebd build |
| 02:23.11 | jonpry | whichever |
| 02:23.12 | stinebd | why? |
| 02:23.31 | rpierce99 | too many builds, we need twitter alerts |
| 02:23.35 | stinebd | once it's working right, you won't need to build it 18 billion times right? |
| 02:23.44 | stinebd | it's not like rootfs where it'll never work right |
| 02:23.56 | jonpry | yeah i hope not |
| 02:25.13 | sleekx | any specific info you are looking for jonpry ? charging from 0 to full charge, or a discharge log ? |
| 02:25.36 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:25.43 | jonpry | sleekx, anything you can dream up. those would be useful as well as varied use |
| 02:25.52 | sleekx | ok |
| 02:26.24 | jonpry | if you have multiple batteries, then doing the same thing on 2 would be interesting |
| 02:26.33 | sleekx | unfortunately I dont |
| 02:26.44 | jonpry | yeah me neither |
| 02:26.51 | jonpry | and neither does MassStash |
| 02:26.53 | arrrghhh | ah that looks better |
| 02:26.55 | stinebd | zing |
| 02:26.58 | arrrghhh | ofc it created a new file huh |
| 02:27.07 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 02:27.14 | jonpry | no new file |
| 02:27.14 | stinebd | i have multiple batteries |
| 02:27.20 | arrrghhh | jonpry, orly? |
| 02:27.25 | arrrghhh | you have multiple phones |
| 02:27.28 | arrrghhh | you bastage |
| 02:27.48 | jonpry | arrrghhh, no new file |
| 02:27.54 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: did that one guy ever mail that unused rhod |
| 02:27.55 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 02:28.03 | arrrghhh | it just ripped thru this one so quickly |
| 02:28.12 | jonpry | what did you get? |
| 02:28.15 | rpierce99 | mine is still churning |
| 02:28.18 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, supposedly. never gave me the tracking #, hopefully he gave it to emwe |
| 02:28.27 | stinebd | oh right i gotta send emwe the money |
| 02:29.02 | jonpry | looking for Cb in the range of 60 virtual farads |
| 02:29.15 | rpierce99 | Cb is 72 on mine |
| 02:29.17 | arrrghhh | jonpry, Initial voltage: 4.102689, Rc: 0.501925, Re: 0.033912, Cc: 0.044062, Cb: 8.219793 |
| 02:29.46 | jonpry | arrrghhh, thats all wrong :p |
| 02:29.54 | jonpry | how big is your log? |
| 02:29.54 | arrrghhh | looks like a new file |
| 02:29.55 | arrrghhh | 3.3k |
| 02:30.04 | jonpry | maybe your daemon died |
| 02:30.07 | arrrghhh | Cb is now 19.5 |
| 02:30.07 | jonpry | ps for it |
| 02:30.09 | arrrghhh | i killed it |
| 02:30.12 | arrrghhh | and restarted it |
| 02:30.15 | arrrghhh | after pushing the new one |
| 02:30.18 | arrrghhh | no? |
| 02:30.25 | jonpry | no, you didn't need to do that |
| 02:30.30 | arrrghhh | aw. |
| 02:30.39 | arrrghhh | well that's the reason for the new file |
| 02:30.43 | arrrghhh | user error, d'oh. |
| 02:30.43 | rpierce99 | i pushed mine while it was running and ran -d again, don't know if i needed to -d again |
| 02:31.00 | rpierce99 | but my file is 136k |
| 02:31.07 | arrrghhh | i have a historical one |
| 02:31.09 | arrrghhh | i'll just run it on that |
| 02:31.11 | jonpry | rpierce99, running -d again was not good |
| 02:31.21 | jonpry | now you probably have 2 running at the same time |
| 02:31.27 | sleekx | haha |
| 02:31.49 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:31.59 | arrrghhh | at least i killed mine before running another :P jk rpierce99 |
| 02:32.04 | sleekx | you could have made his life easier by not allowing multiple instances :P |
| 02:32.10 | arrrghhh | jonpry, running it on the .1, which is my 116kb file |
| 02:32.16 | jonpry | ok |
| 02:32.20 | rpierce99 | i only see one |
| 02:32.26 | rpierce99 | in ps |
| 02:32.53 | jonpry | thats good. the second one may have died because the /dev/ is locked |
| 02:33.14 | rpierce99 | i'm just so used to windows, I was shocked that i could push a file over itself while it was running |
| 02:33.29 | arrrghhh | shame on you rpierce99 |
| 02:33.31 | arrrghhh | with your mbp |
| 02:33.35 | stinebd | that's what ram's for baby |
| 02:33.43 | jonpry | thats fairly common for executables because they are loaded into memory and closed |
| 02:33.59 | rpierce99 | <3 linux |
| 02:34.01 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 02:34.06 | arrrghhh | Cb 79.7 |
| 02:34.50 | jonpry | ok, so now since you have no log anyways |
| 02:34.53 | jonpry | you can kill scbs |
| 02:34.58 | arrrghhh | k |
| 02:35.11 | rpierce99 | i'm down to 65% now :) |
| 02:35.21 | jonpry | and run it like this: scbs -d -rc yourvalue -re yourvalur -cc yv -cb yv |
| 02:35.49 | jonpry | with the stuff from the output |
| 02:35.54 | arrrghhh | kk |
| 02:38.16 | jonpry | and then nothing particularly interesting happens, except that your meter readings should be rock solid in a nonlinear kind of way :p |
| 02:40.36 | rpierce99 | so jonpry wouldn't it be possible for -n to write the values out to a config file that -d could read automatically if it exists, thus making it similar to ts-calibration |
| 02:41.24 | jonpry | rpierce99, the ultimate plan is to have -d figure out when there is a suitable log file, then run -n itself, then write a config |
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| 02:42.30 | rpierce99 | sure, I didn't really say how -n got called, probably easier if it was manual to start, but yeah automating that step would help |
| 02:44.04 | jonpry | its all very tricky. there are lots of parameters that can be adjusted for -n and -d |
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| 02:44.40 | rpierce99 | oic |
| 02:50.10 | rpierce99 | i have a Cb of 83 now, it's going up, what does that # mean? |
| 02:51.04 | jonpry | its more or less how good your battery is. how fast it changes voltage while current is being removed |
| 02:52.18 | jonpry | do you have the regular 1200mah? |
| 02:52.27 | rpierce99 | battery? |
| 02:52.33 | jonpry | yeah |
| 02:52.43 | rpierce99 | i have the stock battery for my phone, not sure what the capacity is |
| 02:53.08 | jonpry | iirc, stock in rhod is 1200mah, but there are other htc batteries that are 1800mah |
| 02:53.46 | rpierce99 | according to xda wiki: Battery: Li-Pol, 1500 mAh, Talk time: GSM: up to 400 minutes; Standby time: GSM: up to two weeks |
| 02:54.20 | jonpry | mine gives the same crap as wistilt2, about 62 mah |
| 02:54.25 | jonpry | er Cb=62 |
| 02:54.32 | rpierce99 | oh i can plug it in and yank the battery without it dying cant i |
| 02:54.56 | rpierce99 | oh that might make the battery measurement funky n/m |
| 02:55.02 | jonpry | the data from your 600 line log gives 87.366376 |
| 02:56.00 | jonpry | so your battery is almost 50% bigger |
| 02:57.15 | arrrghhh | i have the evo battery |
| 02:57.22 | arrrghhh | which i've been told is identical |
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| 02:57.31 | arrrghhh | but it's bright red lol |
| 02:57.32 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, wb |
| 02:58.08 | WisTilt2 | just got home and ready for bed. man i still haven't bounced back from my trip |
| 02:58.16 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 02:58.22 | rpierce99 | up to 85 now |
| 02:58.57 | jonpry | WisTilt2, people really like to recalibrate there battery :p |
| 02:59.31 | rpierce99 | not people, just nerds like arrrghhh and i |
| 02:59.34 | WisTilt2 | that's part of their job dont they know. |
| 03:00.29 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh i have a quick cdma question for you. does mms work for you guys? |
| 03:00.37 | rpierce99 | nope |
| 03:00.59 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, outbound does |
| 03:01.08 | WisTilt2 | ok good. i dont see much that is supported for cdma at all, you guys really are missing lots of stuff |
| 03:01.10 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, outbound does with the correct APN config. receiveing does not. |
| 03:01.17 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, no joke! |
| 03:01.18 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 03:01.32 | WisTilt2 | this ril is pretty much gsm specific |
| 03:01.43 | WisTilt2 | cdma is the red headed step child |
| 03:01.59 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: yeah i guess that's an important point, but MMS as a whole does not work, parts of it work |
| 03:02.17 | arrrghhh | receiving is definitely borked |
| 03:02.22 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, lol thx |
| 03:02.29 | arrrghhh | just don't take us out back and shoot us... :P |
| 03:02.36 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 03:02.42 | rpierce99 | we're gonna win the race to NAND though :) |
| 03:02.51 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 03:03.12 | arrrghhh | we've already won that race. it currently is a bittersweet win tho :P |
| 03:03.15 | WisTilt2 | did either of you guys run that other AT command in my list of 3 by chance? |
| 03:03.27 | arrrghhh | crap, i forgot about that. |
| 03:03.33 | arrrghhh | i'm not tethering anymore! |
| 03:03.39 | rpierce99 | which one? |
| 03:03.46 | WisTilt2 | if you get data back from the last one jonpry might not be happy |
| 03:03.53 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:03.58 | arrrghhh | i got data if he wants it :P |
| 03:04.13 | arrrghhh | i am applying it now in fact |
| 03:04.14 | WisTilt2 | no, i mean that last cmd pertains to battery |
| 03:04.30 | jonpry | hrm? |
| 03:04.32 | arrrghhh | oh? |
| 03:05.17 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: remember i mentioned i thought there was a way to read the current battery % left? it looks like there is actually a cmd to pull it via AT |
| 03:05.47 | jonpry | thats funny |
| 03:06.05 | rpierce99 | the algo isn't as good as jonpry s though |
| 03:06.09 | WisTilt2 | just dont know if its actually implemented in these devices |
| 03:06.31 | WisTilt2 | yeah its not going to be anywhere close to what he's doing for sure. |
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| 03:07.57 | jonpry | at+cbc? |
| 03:07.58 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh or rpierce99 try AT+CBC and see if it returns a number from 0-100 |
| 03:08.02 | WisTilt2 | yep |
| 03:08.08 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:08.56 | WisTilt2 | and dont forget the ? |
| 03:09.04 | rpierce99 | or the \r |
| 03:09.25 | arrrghhh | heh this crappy usb cable just crapped on me i think |
| 03:09.25 | arrrghhh | wth |
| 03:09.48 | jonpry | what is the ? for |
| 03:09.51 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: are you getting any good data on capacitance with your new code these guys are running? |
| 03:09.56 | WisTilt2 | ? is for query |
| 03:10.07 | WisTilt2 | without it, it sends the command |
| 03:10.22 | arrrghhh | bleh |
| 03:10.22 | jonpry | it seems like all batteries are not created equal |
| 03:10.31 | WisTilt2 | yeah unfortunately |
| 03:11.16 | WisTilt2 | we use a lot of AGM type's on our solar powered sites and same manufacturer, same battery, quite different results under similar conditions. |
| 03:11.59 | arrrghhh | stupid batteries |
| 03:12.02 | jonpry | all in all i think it is working well. arrrghhh are you running scbs -d with your own battery model? |
| 03:12.09 | arrrghhh | jonpry, yup |
| 03:12.15 | jonpry | working good? |
| 03:12.21 | arrrghhh | so far |
| 03:12.29 | arrrghhh | having adb issues |
| 03:12.32 | arrrghhh | usb issues really |
| 03:12.37 | jonpry | ah |
| 03:12.39 | arrrghhh | gonna try another cable |
| 03:13.57 | arrrghhh | heh, stupid cable. |
| 03:14.26 | WisTilt2 | we're wireless you know, shouldnt be using cables at all |
| 03:14.35 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 03:14.36 | jonpry | go tesla! |
| 03:16.02 | arrrghhh | damn. phone locked up before i got to run any commands. |
| 03:16.39 | WisTilt2 | speaking tesla...did you see the new wireless power they covered on one of the discovery channels a few weeks ago? transmitted around 500w to light up 10 light bulbs at a distance of around 100' |
| 03:16.46 | sleekx | does your work on battery measurement affect how charged up our phone will be jonpry ? |
| 03:16.59 | WisTilt2 | forget the company name but tesla technology for sure |
| 03:17.07 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, is that related to WiTricity? |
| 03:17.08 | arrrghhh | the company |
| 03:17.11 | sleekx | does it determine when the phone swill top charging ? |
| 03:17.11 | WisTilt2 | that was it |
| 03:17.19 | arrrghhh | nice. yea, i have seen info on them. |
| 03:17.20 | jonpry | sleekx, no |
| 03:17.32 | arrrghhh | MIT-spawned company basically heh |
| 03:17.53 | WisTilt2 | wasnt smoke and mirrors I guess and was impressive |
| 03:17.54 | sleekx | so I assume that's controlled by the built-in battery circuit ? |
| 03:18.11 | jonpry | sleekx, yeah, the PMIC seems to do it |
| 03:18.37 | jonpry | however it is the responsibility of the phone to turn itself off before the going gets tough |
| 03:19.40 | arrrghhh | hrm. seems i screwed the command up somehow. |
| 03:20.00 | jonpry | i really don't think you need ? |
| 03:20.10 | arrrghhh | was working before |
| 03:20.12 | jonpry | AT+CBC=? is for parameter query |
| 03:20.16 | arrrghhh | think i mseed soemthing up |
| 03:20.20 | jonpry | AT+CBC is for value |
| 03:20.26 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:20.32 | arrrghhh | don't know what i messed up tho |
| 03:20.57 | arrrghhh | echo -e "AT+CBC?\r" > /dev/smd0 |
| 03:21.35 | WisTilt2 | you do have another adb watching smd0 correct? |
| 03:21.47 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 03:21.58 | arrrghhh | that's the window i stopped ril-daemon in |
| 03:22.13 | arrrghhh | then do the cat |
| 03:22.20 | arrrghhh | then go to the next window and run that command |
| 03:22.33 | WisTilt2 | error or nothing returned? |
| 03:22.39 | arrrghhh | nothing from the command |
| 03:22.40 | sleekx | cool |
| 03:22.55 | arrrghhh | just NO CARRIER then [MSM] RegSM 0 from 5 to 0 |
| 03:23.06 | arrrghhh | that was spat out before i ran the command tho |
| 03:23.11 | arrrghhh | then the phone locked up |
| 03:23.12 | arrrghhh | going for #2 |
| 03:23.13 | jonpry | no ? |
| 03:23.38 | jonpry | can't you do this kind of stuff in winmo with hyperterminal |
| 03:23.50 | jonpry | bluetooth serial port to grps kind of deal? |
| 03:23.52 | arrrghhh | maybe with haretconsole |
| 03:24.08 | WisTilt2 | yeah any serial terminal should work |
| 03:24.32 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, that worked |
| 03:24.34 | arrrghhh | 0,0 |
| 03:24.45 | rpierce99 | well, that didn't work, haha |
| 03:24.50 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 03:25.19 | rpierce99 | i doubt you're at 0% battery and in the uk (, instead of .) |
| 03:25.33 | arrrghhh | yea... |
| 03:25.34 | arrrghhh | crap. |
| 03:25.41 | arrrghhh | i wonder if i am sending these commands wrong. |
| 03:25.46 | arrrghhh | so jonpry just without the ? |
| 03:25.52 | arrrghhh | same everything else? |
| 03:25.57 | arrrghhh | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.59 | jonpry | yeah, or do AT+CBC=? |
| 03:26.04 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:26.04 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:26.11 | jonpry | will tell you what that command supports on that platform |
| 03:26.17 | jonpry | ex: +CBC: (0,1),(0-100) |
| 03:26.22 | arrrghhh | i am going to try this on haretconsole |
| 03:26.28 | arrrghhh | cuz it keeps locking up android |
| 03:26.44 | WisTilt2 | we need to add AT+SCBS |
| 03:26.55 | jonpry | :) |
| 03:27.49 | rpierce99 | jonpry: i'm up at 89 now :) |
| 03:28.08 | jonpry | hmm, that sounds almost dangerous |
| 03:28.13 | jonpry | are you discharging? |
| 03:28.24 | rpierce99 | yeah i'm at 50% |
| 03:28.43 | rpierce99 | been discharging for like 3 hours, intentionally quick draining it |
| 03:29.40 | arrrghhh | hrm. i just telnet in i thought |
| 03:30.03 | arrrghhh | oh der |
| 03:30.05 | arrrghhh | port's wrong |
| 03:30.26 | jonpry | i don't understand what you are trying to do with haretconsole |
| 03:30.27 | arrrghhh | there we go |
| 03:30.35 | arrrghhh | that won't work? |
| 03:30.37 | jonpry | no |
| 03:30.38 | arrrghhh | heh. |
| 03:31.00 | arrrghhh | i guess i'm not sure how else to console into it in winmo |
| 03:31.11 | jonpry | you got to pair with it |
| 03:31.17 | jonpry | it exports a serial port over bluetooth |
| 03:31.23 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 03:31.47 | rpierce99 | just do it in android, that sounds hard :) |
| 03:32.08 | jonpry | its easy enough in windows |
| 03:32.20 | arrrghhh | i think i have a bt dongle around here somewhere.. |
| 03:34.13 | rpierce99 | haha what a troll: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12007768&postcount=12438 |
| 03:35.03 | arrrghhh | DUH WINNING |
| 03:41.24 | jonpry | got another sod |
| 03:41.40 | arrrghhh | what sleep_mode are you on/ |
| 03:41.57 | jonpry | i think it waking up every 5 seconds really is like stress testing. mode=1 |
| 03:42.07 | jonpry | but i am in airplane mode |
| 03:42.17 | arrrghhh | weird. |
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| 03:44.55 | arrrghhh | jonpry, no matter how i pass that command it always comes back with 0,0 and then OK |
| 03:45.08 | jonpry | even with = |
| 03:45.21 | arrrghhh | i did =? |
| 03:45.25 | arrrghhh | but not just = |
| 03:45.28 | arrrghhh | i did it with nothing |
| 03:45.35 | arrrghhh | just AT+CBC\r |
| 03:45.46 | jonpry | are you connected? |
| 03:45.52 | arrrghhh | locked up, rebooting.. |
| 03:45.59 | arrrghhh | i have this short window of time that it works. |
| 03:46.00 | jonpry | its possible that your connection state is zero |
| 03:46.08 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:46.13 | arrrghhh | i guess i have to do bt |
| 03:47.09 | arrrghhh | yea via usb isn't a very good test for battery... |
| 03:47.10 | arrrghhh | bleh |
| 03:51.46 | rpierce99 | jonpry: I'm at 92, is this going to be a problem for me |
| 03:52.07 | jonpry | i dunno, send me your file |
| 03:52.13 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:53.08 | jonpry | rpierce99, have you only had discharge on this log? |
| 03:54.52 | rpierce99 | there is some charge mixed in, probably not a ton |
| 03:55.35 | jonpry | in theory it is a mixture of use that will keep the numbers under control |
| 03:55.58 | jonpry | but 92 is right in line for an 1800mah |
| 03:56.15 | rpierce99 | http://pastebin.com/gMn7sAkd |
| 03:56.30 | jonpry | can you cat /sys/devices/platform/htc_batter/power_supply/battery/batt_id |
| 03:56.42 | jonpry | or something like that anyways |
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| 03:58.28 | rpierce99 | 374 |
| 04:03.09 | jonpry | mine is 1017 |
| 04:03.29 | jonpry | we have different kinds, but i'm not sure what means at this point |
| 04:04.04 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:04.09 | arrrghhh | somethin, i'm sure of that. |
| 04:04.17 | jonpry | arrrghhh, what is yours? |
| 04:04.22 | jonpry | and WisTilt2 |
| 04:04.52 | arrrghhh | oh right i have no more AT crap to do. i kinda forgot about grabbing the bt dongle too. |
| 04:05.06 | arrrghhh | bleh |
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| 04:13.27 | rpierce99 | jonpry: anything out of the ordinary in that log? is it going to explode? |
| 04:14.10 | jonpry | no it looks fine |
| 04:14.33 | rpierce99 | so just a big battery then, i'm ok with that |
| 04:14.36 | jonpry | the predictions are a bit off, but you didn't give it a correct model yet |
| 04:14.53 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:14.58 | arrrghhh | batt_id = 1022 |
| 04:14.59 | rpierce99 | it's up at 97 now |
| 04:15.04 | rpierce99 | after being plugged in for a bit |
| 04:15.24 | jonpry | lol |
| 04:16.00 | arrrghhh | how many different types of batteries are there? it's endless. |
| 04:16.10 | jonpry | no its ranges |
| 04:16.19 | arrrghhh | this was a refurb'd tp2 i got from a insurance replacement |
| 04:16.20 | jonpry | i suspect they are entropy sources |
| 04:16.26 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 04:16.34 | arrrghhh | and the refurb's come w/o a batt |
| 04:16.47 | arrrghhh | so they pulled one off an evo and slapped it in my phone. |
| 04:16.48 | jonpry | that way you can tell if the battery has been changed, something scbs very much wants to do |
| 04:16.54 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 04:16.59 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 04:17.04 | jonpry | according to the existing code, which is total bs |
| 04:17.15 | jonpry | if batt_id > 800, it is something |
| 04:17.26 | jonpry | if < 280 is it another |
| 04:17.36 | jonpry | and in between it is a 3rd |
| 04:17.44 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 04:17.59 | jonpry | but one knows this is full of shit, because topaz takes sames batteries, and it has 8 kinds |
| 04:18.48 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 04:25.07 | WisTilt2 | jonpry, sorry guys, wife brought dinner home and couldnt pass it up. my batt_id is 360 |
| 04:26.28 | jonpry | WisTilt2, is that from the same battery you did the logs on? |
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| 04:27.23 | WisTilt2 | good question... you had me change batts on one of those tests but i think i changed it back and both logs were from same batt as this one. |
| 04:30.15 | jonpry | rpierce99, afaict that 94 is a good number for you |
| 04:30.30 | rpierce99 | 97 |
| 04:30.36 | jonpry | lol |
| 04:31.17 | rpierce99 | sorry just finished another run, 98.5 |
| 04:32.41 | jonpry | i can get it to say 98.35 for your old data |
| 04:33.10 | jonpry | try -n file -nr .000001 |
| 04:41.31 | rpierce99 | 78.94 |
| 04:42.45 | jonpry | can you give me the whole speal, cc,cb,rc,re? |
| 04:42.51 | rpierce99 | yep |
| 04:43.00 | rpierce99 | is it ok if i abbreviate |
| 04:43.04 | rpierce99 | aka round |
| 04:43.16 | jonpry | or copy paste |
| 04:43.23 | jonpry | probably need 3 digits |
| 04:43.24 | rpierce99 | fine all connect it |
| 04:43.34 | jonpry | no thats fine, just 3 figures |
| 04:44.08 | rpierce99 | ok 4.153, 0.440, 0.183, 0.623, 78.944 |
| 04:45.49 | jonpry | that system seems pretty accurate as well |
| 04:46.31 | jonpry | i think to some extent it is only calculating Re*Cb |
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| 04:49.24 | jonpry | the smaller you make nr, the harder it trains to the log |
| 04:50.01 | rpierce99 | way over my head |
| 04:50.46 | jonpry | i dunno, lets just see if you can get Cb to stop changing |
| 04:51.08 | jonpry | i think small nr is fine. i'm messing with .00000000001 |
| 04:51.19 | rpierce99 | what should i run |
| 04:51.39 | jonpry | same as last time, just in a while |
| 04:51.59 | jonpry | then when it stops changing, if ever, then we will know its correct |
| 04:52.41 | jonpry | its possible we need to change to 1 second logs to be cooking with gas |
| 04:55.28 | jonpry | who does not have rhod? |
| 04:55.53 | jonpry | i know, camro |
| 05:02.25 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: i have some old kaiser tilts laying around at the office if you want to see how that monster works on them? |
| 05:03.12 | jonpry | WisTilt2, right now i am just trying calculate the voltage and charge current scale factors |
| 05:03.45 | jonpry | think i'll probably do it by hand as the mathematical options are unpleasant |
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| 05:12.30 | jonpry | WisTilt2, if you want to do kaiser i can give you instructions |
| 05:14.42 | WisTilt2 | ok, if it isnt a major undertaking:) if it will help you test this np. |
| 05:15.41 | jonpry | i think you just need to get a battery fully charged and then follow the original instructions. |
| 05:16.04 | jonpry | then we just assume charge current == discharge current when plugged in, and voltage = 4.2 |
| 05:17.47 | WisTilt2 | ok will do. btw, i just fully charge my phone and in winmo it shows 4.185 being 100% |
| 05:18.26 | WisTilt2 | ill check the actual battery with the fluke tomorrow at the office to see how close it is |
| 05:19.28 | jonpry | yeah 4.17 or so is 100%, but most chargers enter cv mode at 4.2 |
| 05:19.34 | rpierce99 | jonpry: another run with the -nr, Cb is 79.45 up from 78.94 |
| 05:20.04 | jonpry | what about -nr .00000000001 |
| 05:20.26 | rpierce99 | I'm being drug to bed, i'll have to check it tomorrow |
| 05:20.31 | jonpry | ok |
| 05:20.35 | rpierce99 | nite all |
| 05:25.30 | crawling | gn all |
| 05:29.17 | jonpry | WisTilt2, when the battery is in the phone it should be held at 4.2 because it is being held in constant voltage. when charger is unplugged then it could be anything and still be fully charged |
| 05:32.04 | jonpry | looking at rpierce99 logs, i see stuff like it going to almost 4.1 volts when at 50% charge |
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| 05:34.19 | WisTilt2 | what is the full charge soc voltage on these batts. on the agm's its approx 12.7v after the surface charge dissipates, which takes several hours. |
| 05:35.43 | jonpry | iirc 4.17 |
| 05:40.07 | arrrghhhTP2 | Sleep time for me as well. |
| 05:40.55 | arrrghhhTP2 | I'll try to dig up my BT dongle and see if I can get a serial cxn to the phone at work tomorrow |
| 05:42.28 | WisTilt2 | nite arrrghhh |
| 05:42.49 | jonpry | cya |
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| 06:13.45 | WisTilt2 | bed time. catch ya tomorrow jonpry |
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| 06:24.26 | MassStash | jonpry, got new battery, been in nand since 6pm running flawlessly. Fast as hell and not one force close from anything |
| 06:24.58 | bioterror | MassStash, congrats for nand ;) |
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| 06:38.32 | jonpry | urg, sod |
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| 06:46.16 | MassStash | better than dead battery of death i'm tellin ya.... |
| 06:47.06 | MassStash | for the record, there is no battery pull charge for blady bla fix. The fix is new battery, charge your battery in other phone, or get external battery charger. That's it. |
| 06:48.32 | jonpry | i dunno i got it to work once |
| 06:49.10 | jonpry | but it involved a lot of figiting |
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| 06:49.56 | MassStash | me too |
| 06:50.02 | MassStash | but now i say that lol |
| 06:51.09 | jonpry | for sure |
| 06:51.26 | jonpry | i do not understand sod |
| 06:52.56 | MassStash | anomalitacal man haha |
| 06:53.12 | MassStash | what are you workin on this evening exactly bro? |
| 06:54.21 | jonpry | i am messing with my battery software |
| 06:54.48 | jonpry | it seems to be working except that it causes sod if you are using sleep_mode=1 |
| 06:55.16 | jonpry | it doesn't actually cause sod afaict, but waking the bitch up every 5 seconds signs you up for an sod sooner rather than later |
| 06:58.31 | MassStash | interesting |
| 06:58.52 | MassStash | but if you let it chill before turning screen on it acts alright...? |
| 06:59.09 | MassStash | good news you messin with the battery driver tho... |
| 06:59.33 | MassStash | had 10% when it died on me today.... haha |
| 07:00.22 | jonpry | chill before turning screen on? |
| 07:02.34 | MassStash | = wait longer like 10s |
| 07:03.10 | jonpry | the phone is waking itself up to do measurements |
| 07:03.23 | jonpry | like 700 times per hour |
| 07:03.56 | jonpry | so if you get SOD like 1 out of 100 times. then they just happen all the freaking time |
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| 12:49.33 | fakker | where is Serbia Rajko |
| 12:49.44 | fakker | I just tested those class10 microsd cards; they're legit. |
| 12:49.50 | fakker | 16gb |
| 12:49.56 | fakker | I just wanted to say, in your face Serbia. |
| 12:57.53 | gauner1986 | how expensive? |
| 12:58.25 | gauner1986 | fakker: ^^^ |
| 12:58.32 | fakker | €20 |
| 12:59.20 | gauner1986 | *10 ? |
| 13:00.04 | fakker | i bought 5 |
| 13:00.46 | gauner1986 | which one did you buy? |
| 13:00.49 | gauner1986 | *also want one* |
| 13:01.05 | fakker | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120675779609 |
| 13:01.07 | fakker | price has gone up |
| 13:01.47 | fakker | http://www.lowpricememory.co.uk/low-price-memory-16gb-micro-sd-card-class-10-c-29-p-868-b-17 |
| 13:01.47 | fakker | here |
| 13:01.53 | fakker | it's still cheap on their main site |
| 13:02.02 | gauner1986 | that price seems a little surreal |
| 13:02.20 | gauner1986 | last time i looked they were way above 100 € |
| 13:02.23 | fakker | yeah |
| 13:02.25 | fakker | well |
| 13:02.28 | fakker | give me 5 minutes |
| 13:02.33 | fakker | i'll send you screenshot of the speed |
| 13:03.34 | gauner1986 | no stock :P |
| 13:03.48 | gauner1986 | but it's gb anyway.. don't want to pay extra taxes.. |
| 13:03.48 | fakker | ah |
| 13:04.02 | gauner1986 | fucking customs |
| 13:04.04 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 13:04.16 | fakker | i still think the £30 on ebay is cheap, most stores that sell 16gb class2/4 charge more than that here |
| 13:04.23 | fakker | physical stores, not online |
| 13:04.42 | gauner1986 | yeah |
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| 13:05.53 | gauner1986 | thhm |
| 13:05.58 | gauner1986 | it's a noname card, isnt it? |
| 13:06.22 | gauner1986 | i can get a patriot (also dunno that brand) card for 27 € in germany |
| 13:06.29 | fakker | yeah, no name |
| 13:06.30 | gauner1986 | class 10 also |
| 13:07.35 | gauner1986 | maybe spend some more money on quality |
| 13:07.37 | gauner1986 | *mhm |
| 13:07.54 | fakker | fuck quality |
| 13:08.17 | fakker | www.noobhands.com/sdcard.png |
| 13:08.51 | gauner1986 | sweet |
| 13:09.26 | gauner1986 | i'd be curious for small file benchmarks |
| 13:09.28 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 13:10.14 | fakker | no idea |
| 13:10.45 | gauner1986 | whats your next phone btw? |
| 13:11.00 | fakker | no idea again haha, i got my free upgrade end of the year |
| 13:11.30 | gauner1986 | mine is in september or so |
| 13:11.44 | fakker | november for me |
| 13:11.56 | gauner1986 | but i can already upgrade my phone i think |
| 13:12.01 | gauner1986 | but no good phone available |
| 13:12.21 | gauner1986 | have to wait till summer probably |
| 13:12.23 | gauner1986 | :( |
| 13:12.41 | gauner1986 | they know i hate waiting, they know it.. bastards :P |
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| 13:13.24 | fakker | yeah, my feeling too |
| 13:13.35 | fakker | i don't need another device, so i guess i'm ok for the moment |
| 13:13.46 | gauner1986 | i'm keeping an eye on samsung galaxy s2 |
| 13:13.56 | fakker | eww samsung?! |
| 13:13.58 | gauner1986 | and desire hd2 (if it comes out) |
| 13:13.58 | fakker | plastic |
| 13:14.17 | gauner1986 | hd2 is plastic too? |
| 13:14.19 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 13:14.29 | gauner1986 | except the battery cover |
| 13:14.33 | fakker | exactly |
| 13:14.37 | fakker | not all of it |
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| 13:15.01 | gauner1986 | you got a better alternative? |
| 13:15.08 | gauner1986 | dont want to be another iphone-sucker |
| 13:15.09 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 13:15.12 | fakker | sit and wait! |
| 13:15.14 | fakker | :D |
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| 14:06.51 | RICKY1989 | hi all |
| 14:07.05 | RICKY1989 | can someone explain to me how i can extract a kernel from a build? |
| 14:07.20 | RICKY1989 | im using rafdroid 2.3 |
| 14:08.26 | RICKY1989 | anyone? |
| 14:09.11 | Pr0z | if u have the zip file |
| 14:09.18 | Pr0z | u will find it in boot dir |
| 14:12.14 | RICKY1989 | so i can copy the files from the boot dir the the news 4.0.2 rafroid into the boo.dir en i will have the old kernel? |
| 14:12.24 | RICKY1989 | to the* |
| 14:13.52 | Pr0z | yea but u will need same old files that come with the kernel |
| 14:14.42 | RICKY1989 | just the file that are in the 'boot' dir right? |
| 14:15.01 | RICKY1989 | init.rd.gz and zImage |
| 14:15.29 | Pr0z | no there more 2 files |
| 14:15.38 | Pr0z | i need to find the names |
| 14:16.05 | RICKY1989 | system\lib\modules\*.ko files? |
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| 14:16.48 | RICKY1989 | and \system\lib\hw\*.so files? |
| 14:16.55 | RICKY1989 | or do u mean other files? |
| 14:17.17 | Pr0z | yea |
| 14:17.21 | Pr0z | http://www.multiupload.com/XY1GCAQ6FE |
| 14:17.28 | Pr0z | check how this update is bulid |
| 14:17.39 | Pr0z | its has the ko files and kernel |
| 14:17.49 | Pr0z | u will have to change the kernel and those files too |
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| 14:18.02 | Pr0z | to make it working with the kernel |
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| 14:18.48 | RICKY1989 | ah oke |
| 14:18.58 | RICKY1989 | thnx for the info mate :) |
| 14:19.38 | Pr0z | np |
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| 15:00.28 | RICKY1989 | i put all the files from the kernel into a ZIP |
| 15:00.42 | RICKY1989 | so can i choose apply update.zip and will it work in CWM to replace the kernel? |
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| 15:04.23 | RICKY1989 | anyone? |
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| 15:05.30 | fakker | try |
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| 16:28.49 | Cotulla | helo |
| 16:34.00 | gauner1986 | hola |
| 16:34.16 | Cotulla | hola todus! |
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| 16:35.24 | gauner1986 | whats your study called btw? |
| 16:36.14 | Cotulla | jajaj! |
| 16:37.15 | dcordes | loool Cotulla got teleported back from the 5th mexico dimension and is no mexiCulla |
| 16:37.26 | dcordes | s/no/now/ |
| 16:37.44 | Cotulla | w00t>? |
| 16:37.48 | Cotulla | hola dcordes |
| 16:38.03 | dcordes | buenos tardes |
| 16:38.08 | Cotulla | u mean I lost my tower??? |
| 16:38.10 | Cotulla | :D |
| 16:38.35 | Cotulla | how are u btw? |
| 16:39.44 | dcordes | no, I mean "I want to buy this carpet" |
| 16:39.54 | dcordes | I'm fine, you ? |
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| 16:48.10 | jonpry | Cotulla, my battery thing is operational |
| 16:49.00 | Cotulla | tested well? |
| 16:49.02 | Cotulla | nice.. |
| 16:49.39 | jonpry | it works well so far |
| 16:51.53 | Cotulla | but it need wake ups |
| 16:51.56 | Cotulla | often? |
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| 17:00.39 | NeoMatrixJR | Hey WisTilt2! I *finally* got done reading through the last couple of day's logs. Looks like you and jonpry have been pretty busy with RIL and battery. anything you need tested today? |
| 17:02.16 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR: im working on the ril but nothing to test yet. jonpry might need more users to test the battery stuff, don't know how far he got last night after I left. |
| 17:03.11 | NeoMatrixJR | I'm not sure he'd want my battery tests anyways. I think I need the working RIL first. I work in a low-to-no signal environment. I get SOD's *ALOT* |
| 17:03.27 | [acl] | fucking ril |
| 17:03.28 | [acl] | :-p |
| 17:03.42 | [acl] | things are much simpler without one |
| 17:04.03 | WisTilt2 | yeah thats going to be awhile until i have a ril to put out for mass testing. we are setting one up to glean some info from cdma cell sites we need. |
| 17:04.07 | rpierce99 | yeah i say we just use terminal to send our own AT commands all the time |
| 17:05.00 | WisTilt2 | are you setup to do that rpierce99? i have several cmds we need to try |
| 17:05.01 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: that I can do...especially if you want to any logs to see how it reacts in low-signal areas :D |
| 17:05.29 | [acl] | who was the animal who tried the lexicon ril? |
| 17:05.49 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR sounds good. when we get to that point i'll need people that are able to be in that kind of area to reproduce sod conditions |
| 17:05.51 | [acl] | it was some savage in here |
| 17:05.51 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: i have about a 1mb log for jonpry, I'd like to make sure that's big enough before I go and break it |
| 17:06.18 | NeoMatrixJR | oh, btw WisTilt2, but by the time you're done with the RIL will we be able to use both the CDMA and GSP parts of our world phone properly (not that I go anywhere where i would use GSM...but just thought I'd ask) |
| 17:06.19 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99, no hurry, im not ready for a couple hours |
| 17:06.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: that'd be a heck lot of fucking |
| 17:06.56 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: :-D |
| 17:07.05 | Cotulla | so anybody who tried lexi ril - animal? |
| 17:07.11 | [acl] | Cotulla: yeah |
| 17:07.16 | [acl] | Cotulla: you try it ? :-p |
| 17:07.26 | WisTilt2 | NeoMatrixJR hopefully... all the missing cdma stuff will be there, whether it all works is another thing:) |
| 17:07.54 | NeoMatrixJR | :D will it actually know the difference between evdo and 3G? |
| 17:08.18 | [acl] | Cotulla: you should disasm.. interesting stuff.. looks very build specific tho. |
| 17:08.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: userspace is far from being polished. but if you butcher lexicon ril. well. you'll have to wrap all rmnet calls like on hd2 and you'll have to write stubs to connect it to our modified acoustic library and other stuff. not worth it when some professional cdma programmers are working for us |
| 17:08.28 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2's the man. |
| 17:09.02 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: fuk that.. i much rather have wistitlts ril .. im just saying if you tried it you are an animal.. i no have time to ril around.. |
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| 17:09.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: no i have not tried it. which does not imply that i'm not an animal |
| 17:10.30 | Cotulla | [acl], who use CDMA |
| 17:10.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: americans do ;) |
| 17:10.45 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:10.51 | Cotulla | lexi ril is bad |
| 17:10.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | it was written by animals? |
| 17:11.15 | Cotulla | bcz u will stole our leo techno! :D |
| 17:11.16 | NeoMatrixJR | CDMA... Me, arrrghhh, rpierce99, anyone on Verizon, US Cellular, Sprint and a few others. |
| 17:11.27 | Cotulla | but ok |
| 17:11.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: you stole our ideas and our coder |
| 17:11.35 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 17:11.41 | [acl] | Cotulla: asshole !!! |
| 17:11.44 | [acl] | :-p |
| 17:11.48 | Cotulla | it''s open source |
| 17:11.49 | Cotulla | :P |
| 17:11.54 | NeoMatrixJR | we should just steal his phone! |
| 17:12.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | he's got a spare one |
| 17:12.11 | [acl] | ok no more spamming logs.. |
| 17:12.14 | Cotulla | but hey I will share results as well |
| 17:12.23 | Cotulla | yeah, to hard for animals read them\ |
| 17:12.39 | WisTilt2 | someone else is also working on a new ril for rhod? |
| 17:12.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway. i need to do some homework now. not a holywar time |
| 17:12.47 | Cotulla | heh |
| 17:12.55 | Cotulla | yeah, more work less words |
| 17:12.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 17:13.05 | [acl] | WisTilt2: nahh.. all you buddy. |
| 17:13.19 | Cotulla | nahh? |
| 17:13.23 | Cotulla | Oo |
| 17:13.30 | Cotulla | u stole our word :D |
| 17:13.33 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: no, but I think someone mentioned looking at the lexicon ril recently. Doesn't sound like that would work out very well |
| 17:13.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: that's now our nahh |
| 17:13.36 | WisTilt2 | ok. was going to say, im not going to waste my time then:) |
| 17:13.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | s/now/not |
| 17:13.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | fuck |
| 17:13.46 | Cotulla | not? |
| 17:13.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | yep |
| 17:13.53 | Cotulla | but it used most time in the same meaning |
| 17:13.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | nope |
| 17:13.58 | Cotulla | at least at the same place |
| 17:14.00 | WisTilt2 | what is lexicon ril? is that the dual mode one someone was talking about? |
| 17:14.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, yes, but not offensive |
| 17:14.05 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: took that thing appart.. it wont work .. it interacts with userland alot.. not worth the trouble.. |
| 17:14.16 | [acl] | WisTilt2: yeah that dual mode one |
| 17:14.25 | Cotulla | [acl], what u mean under "nahh"? |
| 17:14.34 | [acl] | Cotulla: i mean no |
| 17:14.46 | NeoMatrixJR | userland changes suck. |
| 17:14.48 | Cotulla | so it's like our nahh |
| 17:14.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: just fyi. Cotulla is worried because in russia 'nah' means 'onto the dick'. in the meaning of 'fuck off'.. |
| 17:15.00 | [acl] | Cotulla: i didnt know "nahh" was world wide :-p |
| 17:15.00 | Cotulla | at least it have such meaning |
| 17:15.13 | [acl] | haha |
| 17:15.27 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: ok .. ill stop saying it.. . and stick to the classic NO |
| 17:15.32 | Cotulla | okay |
| 17:15.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: oh noes |
| 17:15.49 | [acl] | NeoMatrixJR: no it supposed to interact with userland. Not like our hacks |
| 17:15.58 | NeoMatrixJR | I need to drop the BT userland changes out for public testing to see if it breaks anything. If it doesn't we should get them integrated so when the kernel changes are ready it will work. |
| 17:16.07 | NeoMatrixJR | oh |
| 17:18.42 | NeoMatrixJR | ok, so here's a question. Let's say I take an FRX05 system and adb push a file to the /system directory. I rebooted the phone to WinMo and mounted the system.ext2 and saw the file was still in there. If I give that file to someone else who's already running frx05 do they need to make a new data.img or can they drop in a modified frx05 system w/ no problems? |
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| 17:18.52 | NeoMatrixJR | woops |
| 17:19.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: depends on the file. if it is a library and it doesn't conflict with others in address map or is not prelinked, it's ok. i guess you're talking about JB acoustic libs? |
| 17:20.02 | NeoMatrixJR | just the .hcd file for patchram |
| 17:20.19 | rpierce99 | NeoMatrixJR: the traditional process for testing that stuff has been mount binds in startup.txt hasn't it? That way it's easier to change |
| 17:20.34 | NeoMatrixJR | I don't have any acoustic libs. I don't think they're posted anywhere yet are they? |
| 17:21.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: the source is posted. jb has sent me the binaries. well, actually i'm running them fine with 2.6.35.7 kernel. need to clean up on the kernel side, though |
| 17:21.36 | NeoMatrixJR | rpierce99: since it's loaded by init.froyo.rc I *think* it has to be available before that because I *think* init.froyo.rc gets loaded before user.froyo.conf. Can anyone confirm that for me though? |
| 17:22.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | cmon, stop that shit. just teach users to use adb |
| 17:22.33 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah, I'm running the kernel, I just don't have the libs |
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| 17:22.50 | NeoMatrixJR | hangs head in shame...I don't know how to compile anything but the zImage |
| 17:23.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: anyway, they will only work with jb's branch of kernel where there are changes to support it |
| 17:24.59 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah. I'm running his kernel. He sent me the link to the source. I've got it, the changes to init.froyo.rc and the .hcd loaded up. Just no libs. Although that explains on my last compile and test I could hear static on my headset but no sound. |
| 17:26.05 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: to get the libs do I just run make <blah blah blah> modules (instead of zImage)? |
| 17:26.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: i can send you the binaries to test, but you'll need some csv files from winmo (or you can try mine from kovsky) |
| 17:27.00 | NeoMatrixJR | sure PM me where to get the modules and where to find the .csv in WinMo. (I assume it's the audiopara file?) |
| 17:27.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: http://www.mediafire.com/?a1rzi5embishqd7 i am lazy. this tarball has the libraries and 2.6.35.7 kernel for kovsky. you don't need the latter though |
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| 17:27.36 | NeoMatrixJR | don't the modules have to match the kernel? |
| 17:27.45 | NeoMatrixJR | oh |
| 17:27.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: these are not modules, userspace libs |
| 17:27.47 | NeoMatrixJR | n/m |
| 17:28.02 | NeoMatrixJR | libraries != modules |
| 17:28.37 | NeoMatrixJR | need moar sleep! brain no think straight |
| 17:29.53 | [acl] | :-p |
| 17:30.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: just copy all csv files to the root of sd card. AudioPara3.csv, AudioFilterTable.csv, AudioPreProcessTable.csv and note - if you have AudioPara3_XC.csv or _XC_[carrier name], rename it to AudioPara3.csv and copy to sd card. The regular AudioPara3.csv then will contain fallback data and will not produce audible sound |
| 17:31.13 | Cotulla | +1 Cotulla's words: "audible" was successfuklly added. |
| 17:31.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | successfuckfully? |
| 17:32.14 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: do I have to use any mount commands for the .csv's or does his code expect them in /sdcard? |
| 17:32.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: the latter |
| 17:35.10 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: can you send your froyo.user.conf (or just the section with the lib mounts)? I need the mount destinations for the libs. |
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| 17:35.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: i do not do mounts and use no stinky conf. i've just copied it to system.ext2 |
| 17:36.16 | NeoMatrixJR | just straight to /system? no subfolder? |
| 17:36.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, overwrite the existing ones |
| 17:36.46 | NeoMatrixJR | oh, ok |
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| 17:52.36 | NeoMatrixJR | waiting for WinMo to expand the ever-over-populated windows directory |
| 17:53.12 | NeoMatrixJR | why can't WinMo have a command line? |
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| 17:53.56 | Cotulla | bcz users don't need it |
| 17:53.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | because geeks pose a threat to microsoft business. that's the official version. unofficialy, some buggy console emulators exist but are next to unusable |
| 17:54.19 | Cotulla | and well it exist for some ppl |
| 17:57.43 | NeoMatrixJR | crap...I've got a lot of AudioPara3*.csv files... |
| 17:57.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | try the _XC one first |
| 17:58.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | and AudioPara3.csv next. well, jb uses AudioPara3, but on kovs, the _XC one is preferred by winmo and the one without _XC has no sound at all |
| 17:58.50 | NeoMatrixJR | no _XC. _Boot, _Rhodium#W, _Rhodium#W_UTMS, and _UTMS |
| 17:59.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | then the one without _XC or any other except boot, i guess |
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| 18:14.51 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: if you are able to, can you logcat and grep for something like "world phone in CDMA mode". might have already rotated passed that if your phone has been up awhile since that happens during init. |
| 18:15.23 | rpierce99 | yeah my logcat is probably already passed, but i can look through old logs |
| 18:15.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: do you think you can add cdma/gsm detectio based on AT, not on sysfs and htc_hw? |
| 18:15.46 | WisTilt2 | ok that will work. just want to see if indeed that is being set right now |
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| 18:16.27 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah that's probably how it really should be |
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| 18:17.33 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev]: the current ril does that now in a strange way |
| 18:17.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: btw, instead of AT+GCMM/CGMR use AT+RADIOVER: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6028/devicefn.png |
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| 18:23.29 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: all of my saved logcats had rolled over as well, so no help there. This log will have to be good enough for jonpry, the numbers are pretty stable now |
| 18:24.10 | WisTilt2 | when you get a chance and can reboot that'd be great. not in a big hurry if you want to run that logging longer np. |
| 18:25.16 | NeoMatrixJR | Crap. all that work and I realize I left my headset @ home :'( |
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| 18:28.20 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: should this come out the standard logcat or logcat -b radio |
| 18:28.45 | WisTilt2 | just logcat |
| 18:31.33 | rpierce99 | well apparently logcat rolls over really quickly, so I still don't have the top top, but I do have this line: D/OtaStartupReceiver( 1424): Not a CDMA phone, no need to process OTA |
| 18:31.44 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: what BT chip does your kovsky use? |
| 18:31.55 | rpierce99 | rebooting again, going to try wait-for-device; logcat > |
| 18:33.50 | WisTilt2 | interesting... Not a cdma phone but that's what you have right? |
| 18:34.57 | rpierce99 | yeah |
| 18:35.12 | NeoMatrixJR | WisTilt2: are you having them test on your kernel or autobuild. I know mine comes up a lot and says GSM Rhodium detected (even though I'm CDMA) |
| 18:35.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: brf6300 iirc |
| 18:35.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | or 6350 |
| 18:35.34 | WisTilt2 | kernel doesnt matter, this is in android side |
| 18:36.57 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: ok, I wonder if using brcm patchram breaks BT (what's working so far) for people with ti chips. I would imagine it does. I take it we're going to need some sort of logic in the init file to discern what to use? |
| 18:37.35 | NeoMatrixJR | Alex[sp3dev]: will your phone sleep w/ BT turned on? Mine won't. |
| 18:37.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | NeoMatrixJR: of course you need to fix init. but i don't care now. on 35 the uart is not working properly, so i'm not into the userspace until i fix that. i'm working on wifi atm |
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| 18:42.34 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: just got a full logcat, starting at the very beginning through the first lock screen, nothing related to CDMA except that line I posted before |
| 18:43.26 | WisTilt2 | strange |
| 18:44.16 | rpierce99 | only one instance of GSM too though, and that is PackageManager listing features |
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| 18:49.11 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: I found all those in the radio log |
| 18:49.21 | rpierce99 | D/RIL ( 1323): Running on a world phone in CDMA mode |
| 18:49.47 | rpierce99 | E/RIL ( 1323): Android want us to connect as GSM while we are a CDMA phone ! |
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| 18:50.26 | WisTilt2 | ok guess they are in there. needed to confirm cdma flag was indeed set and it is |
| 18:51.17 | rpierce99 | this has a lot of requests and responses too, should i pastebin this? |
| 18:51.50 | WisTilt2 | yes please |
| 18:52.18 | rpierce99 | anything sensitive in here that I should remove? |
| 18:53.09 | WisTilt2 | probably... pm me if you want |
| 18:56.13 | WisTilt2 | well one thing missing right off the bat is extended cell info. should have this test ril ready shortly that you can run so we can get more of the info we need. |
| 18:56.27 | rpierce99 | awesome, i'll be around |
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| 19:01.35 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: on you on 3G during this log? |
| 19:02.12 | rpierce99 | it's the boot process, probably at the end it should have connected to 3g, it's on 3g now |
| 19:04.47 | rpierce99 | ATDT#777 is the sprint data call dialing |
| 19:05.50 | [acl] | rpierce99: you should look at the code.. its really simple as to how they do this.. "if cdma poop this.. if gsm poop this .lol" |
| 19:06.45 | rpierce99 | [acl]: i poked around in libhtc-generic_ril.c or whatever for a while, it's all pretty straightforward if you know exactly what commands to send at what time, which i don't, haha |
| 19:07.31 | [acl] | rpierce99; alot of sleeps and ugly ness inside |
| 19:08.25 | rpierce99 | the part that i enjoyed was if (gsm) { do a lot of really complex stuff } else { dont do anything at all} //cdma |
| 19:08.52 | rpierce99 | which i'm sure is not because cdma is more complex, just because we didn't know how to do it |
| 19:09.02 | rpierce99 | s/more/less |
| 19:09.16 | rpierce99 | apt must hate me, that never works for me |
| 19:09.23 | Cotulla | apt die |
| 19:09.23 | apt | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 19:09.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | you forgot the trailing slash |
| 19:09.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | s/you/poop/ |
| 19:09.39 | rpierce99 | oh, well there ya go |
| 19:09.59 | Cotulla | why noy just copy message again? |
| 19:10.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's slower |
| 19:10.24 | Cotulla | okay |
| 19:10.30 | rpierce99 | i would normally just do more=less, but since the feature exists, might as well use it |
| 19:10.51 | Cotulla | anyway |
| 19:10.58 | Cotulla | apt become too lazy last time |
| 19:11.54 | Cotulla | I am bit afraid he joins to Apple secta... |
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| 19:25.17 | arrrghhh | i saw the words 'test RIL ready shortly' and ran in here :D |
| 19:25.44 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: i think it's just for logging our cdma commands, don't know if it's on the old codebase or new |
| 19:25.55 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 19:26.03 | arrrghhh | but if it helps with progress, i'm game! |
| 19:26.10 | rpierce99 | agreed |
| 19:26.19 | arrrghhh | gotta run to the call center, brb. |
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| 19:50.36 | gauner1986 | hey LeTama |
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| 19:50.51 | LeTama | hello guys, hello gauner1986 |
| 19:50.59 | gauner1986 | long time no see |
| 19:51.30 | LeTama | yes, very busy life :( |
| 19:52.44 | gauner1986 | it has become boring anyway |
| 19:52.45 | gauner1986 | ;) |
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| 19:53.29 | LeTama | saw that we lost Cotulla to evil side ? :) |
| 19:53.55 | gauner1986 | yeah.. don't say the t word |
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| 19:54.08 | AstainHellbring | tinkerbell? |
| 19:54.18 | gauner1986 | no, sorry.. three letters |
| 19:54.41 | Cotulla | what u mena? |
| 19:54.45 | Curious_ | TP2 ^+%&/(/&%+ |
| 19:54.50 | gauner1986 | nooooo |
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| 19:54.59 | gauner1986 | apt: kill tp2 |
| 19:54.59 | apt | ACTION shoots a ionized tachyon gun at tp2 |
| 19:55.02 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 19:55.05 | Curious_ | haha |
| 19:55.09 | AstainHellbring | apt kill gauner1986 |
| 19:55.09 | apt | ACTION shoots a excited proton gun at gauner1986 |
| 19:55.17 | Curious_ | lol, can tachyon ionize :D |
| 19:55.21 | AstainHellbring | lol nice script |
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| 19:56.16 | Curious_ | Cotulla: do you consider fast-boot on magldr ? |
| 19:57.14 | Curious_ | and is this true that BT causes high current drain? |
| 19:58.52 | Curious_ | it's been months since we had a good kernel update |
| 19:59.14 | gauner1986 | need 720p :P |
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| 19:59.47 | Curious_ | yeah, |
| 20:00.21 | Cotulla | what about 1080p? :P |
| 20:00.38 | gauner1986 | if it's possible, why not |
| 20:00.38 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 20:00.46 | Curious_ | with 3fps |
| 20:00.46 | Cotulla | okay implement it |
| 20:00.47 | Curious_ | no thanx |
| 20:00.53 | Cotulla | I will finish 720 when u finish 1080o |
| 20:00.58 | Cotulla | *1080p |
| 20:01.09 | Curious_ | Cotulla: how about u finish 720p, i finish 1080p |
| 20:01.29 | gauner1986 | i've just finished 1080p on my tv |
| 20:01.46 | LeTama | by networking 4 hd2 and distribute encoding ? |
| 20:02.36 | Curious_ | with 3 hd2 it might be possible |
| 20:02.43 | Curious_ | if u are good at signal processing |
| 20:02.48 | Curious_ | you might even get 3D |
| 20:02.51 | Curious_ | :D |
| 20:03.27 | Cotulla | hm |
| 20:03.29 | Cotulla | why 4 |
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| 20:03.31 | Cotulla | I have 2 |
| 20:03.34 | Cotulla | so it's enough |
| 20:03.46 | Curious_ | u can get 720p with 2 |
| 20:03.46 | Cotulla | but dunno how transfer data |
| 20:03.56 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, duct tape |
| 20:04.00 | gauner1986 | you just have to mount one hd2 at each side of your eyes |
| 20:04.01 | Curious_ | haha |
| 20:04.05 | Curious_ | that does graphene |
| 20:04.10 | Cotulla | arrrghhh, yeah |
| 20:04.13 | Cotulla | I mean data connection |
| 20:04.19 | arrrghhh | Cotulla, instant data network |
| 20:04.26 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.27 | arrrghhh | let the electrons travel over the duct tape |
| 20:04.29 | Cotulla | RAID from Cameras |
| 20:04.31 | Cotulla | xD |
| 20:04.32 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 20:04.37 | gauner1986 | which raid? |
| 20:04.38 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 20:04.39 | arrrghhh | gorilla tape maybe |
| 20:05.02 | Cotulla | jokers |
| 20:06.04 | Curious_ | seriously, don't we have new venc driver? |
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| 20:08.07 | Curious_ | heh, he didn't even fix i2c |
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| 20:08.49 | Curious_ | Specialist stop spamming, get a good connection |
| 20:10.01 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 20:10.59 | Curious_ | Specialist: stop |
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| 20:12.12 | Curious_ | Cotulla: what happened to getting off-charging with CWM ? |
| 20:16.00 | Curious_ | disappointment |
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| 20:32.49 | Jhinta | so about desire hd , copey rootfs to sdcard part. 2 chroot is working , but for kernel part , i enabled vt frambufer and so on from wat i read from the net |
| 20:32.59 | Jhinta | but it just does not work ,, |
| 20:34.01 | dcordes | what exactly does not work ? |
| 20:34.47 | Jhinta | running with this command fastbot -c 'root=/dev/block/mmcblk1p2 rw rootdelay=5 init=/sbin/init noinitrd' boot boot.img ( or flash zImage ) |
| 20:34.52 | Jhinta | native ubuntu |
| 20:35.18 | dcordes | are you sure /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 exists :) ? |
| 20:35.33 | dcordes | you have two sd card slots |
| 20:35.34 | dcordes | ? |
| 20:35.50 | Cotulla | there eMMC |
| 20:35.53 | Jhinta | no mmcblk1 is sdcard p= partion |
| 20:35.55 | Cotulla | it's like built-in sd |
| 20:36.05 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:36.39 | dcordes | I'm not very familiar with the android bootloaders |
| 20:36.42 | Jhinta | if i run recovery and mount sdcard i see mmcblk1p1 ->fat |
| 20:37.22 | dcordes | Cotulla: pseude large nand ? |
| 20:37.29 | dcordes | like in diam |
| 20:38.32 | Cotulla | new devices use eMMC as store for ROM |
| 20:38.39 | Cotulla | built-in SD |
| 20:38.49 | Cotulla | it more faster ofcourse, because it's 8 bit |
| 20:38.55 | Cotulla | but it's nice. there no bad blocks :D |
| 20:44.41 | Jhinta | in android i have http://pastebin.com/pnzZigRJ |
| 20:46.36 | Jhinta | in recovery http://pastebin.com/vkHXkg9B |
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| 20:51.34 | Jhinta | dont know if yopu guys know this site but for the info , if its handy or not |
| 20:51.34 | Jhinta | http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision#Non-FreeCodeandToolResources |
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| 21:21.22 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh/rpierce99: im about to upload a package with the test ril. you need to save your existing rootfs, system.ext2, and kernel. the test ones are in the package. |
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| 21:21.37 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, schweet. |
| 21:21.44 | arrrghhh | we can just adb push the ril too |
| 21:21.47 | arrrghhh | or are there more files? |
| 21:22.05 | WisTilt2 | nope, all inside this system image and rootfs |
| 21:24.36 | arrrghhh | fancy |
| 21:25.00 | stinebd | all credit goes to stinebd |
| 21:25.11 | WisTilt2 | i also enabled the extended cell info for cdma so we'll see if that actually works |
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| 21:25.43 | stinebd | WisTilt2: don't mess with the sim pin part, i wrote that |
| 21:26.01 | WisTilt2 | yes, thanks stinebd:) someone on this end had a brain fart moment and he straighten things out |
| 21:27.48 | rpierce99 | alright I've got an android folder all ready, it's feeling rather lonely without a system.ext2 or rootfs though |
| 21:29.53 | WisTilt2 | ok guys there ya go |
| 21:30.16 | rpierce99 | curling |
| 21:30.18 | stinebd | don't forget to checksum arrrghhh ;) |
| 21:30.23 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:30.28 | arrrghhh | considering this is the only one, i'll be fine :P |
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| 21:30.56 | WisTilt2 | just do normal stuff with your phone for probably an hour or so will be good. then i need the logcat -b radio. either pm it or email since it has sensitive info in it |
| 21:31.11 | arrrghhh | for sure |
| 21:31.56 | WisTilt2 | once you boot though, i need you to check 2 things to make sure its running the capture. works on gsm so should be good on cdma also |
| 21:31.57 | rpierce99 | how do i know you're not going to clone my phone? hmmmmmm!? |
| 21:32.26 | WisTilt2 | lol. if i was 30 years younger maybe |
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| 21:33.57 | stinebd | arrrghhh: this may sound crazy, but normal stuff probably involves making a call or two. try it. |
| 21:34.10 | arrrghhh | a call? wtf is that? |
| 21:34.14 | stinebd | don't know |
| 21:34.15 | WisTilt2 | that and especially data |
| 21:34.17 | stinebd | i saw it on the box |
| 21:34.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:34.35 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, cleanup time. i'll brb, hopefully... |
| 21:34.44 | arrrghhh | aw fawk it's almost done. guess i can wait for it to finish :D |
| 21:34.50 | WisTilt2 | if either of you guys can get into a weak signal spot then strong again that would be great also |
| 21:35.08 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, lol i'll do my best. our data center isn't walled in lead tho, much to my dismay. |
| 21:35.15 | rpierce99 | any household objects provide signal blocking? oven? |
| 21:35.17 | stinebd | the best way to do that is to put it in the microwave for a few minutes |
| 21:35.23 | stinebd | but DONT run the microwave! |
| 21:35.26 | rpierce99 | microwave, got it |
| 21:35.27 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 21:35.30 | WisTilt2 | microwave oven works great, just dont turn it on |
| 21:35.38 | arrrghhh | i was just going to ask how long do i cook it for |
| 21:35.39 | WisTilt2 | you guys type way too fast |
| 21:35.43 | arrrghhh | i guess it depends on the altitude... |
| 21:36.07 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: you don't want to break the phone so make sure to wrap it in foil first |
| 21:36.26 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 21:36.26 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 21:36.34 | stinebd | that will ensure that you break the microwave before you break the phone |
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| 21:38.42 | rpierce99 | haha this pack isn't for the faint of heart, didn't even rename the system image :) |
| 21:39.13 | arrrghhh | oh noes |
| 21:39.21 | arrrghhh | not renaming a system image :P |
| 21:39.42 | arrrghhh | there's a new kernel with it too eh? guess i missed that. |
| 21:39.57 | arrrghhh | now that i scroll up, i'm just retarded. |
| 21:40.05 | arrrghhh | reboot time, i'll have reports soon WisTilt2 ;) |
| 21:40.10 | rpierce99 | i missed it to the first time i read it |
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| 21:41.16 | WisTilt2 | guess i'll have to bold everything for you blind people |
| 21:41.27 | stinebd | heh |
| 21:43.35 | rpierce99 | oh, it's actually looking for system.img :) |
| 21:43.52 | WisTilt2 | huh? |
| 21:44.12 | rpierce99 | i renamed the image to ext2 to match the norm |
| 21:44.28 | WisTilt2 | yes |
| 21:46.21 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: do you know where the text output is handled for the top bar, if one wanted to display something up there? |
| 21:48.15 | rpierce99 | alright i'm booted |
| 21:48.46 | rpierce99 | damnit no i'm not |
| 21:48.54 | WisTilt2 | was going to wait for arrrghhh to get back before i put up what to look for to make sure its working |
| 21:49.05 | WisTilt2 | he probably turned on the microwave by mistake |
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| 21:50.04 | stinebd | WisTilt2: those are standard android notifications - you'd have to write an android app to display a notification there. i'm not sure if there's a way to do it via shell or console. |
| 21:50.45 | WisTilt2 | but it can be done within android itselfe somehow the same way an app would publish to it? |
| 21:51.01 | bioterror | okay |
| 21:51.09 | bioterror | this rhobunti thingie really like inception |
| 21:51.13 | bioterror | I went derper :D |
| 21:51.18 | bioterror | rhobuntu |
| 21:51.35 | stinebd | "within android" is a funny concept |
| 21:51.48 | bioterror | I chrootued into arm-linux, then from arm-linux I chrooted into rhobuntu on sd-card |
| 21:51.49 | stinebd | in this case, that would mean in the java layer |
| 21:51.51 | WisTilt2 | as opposed to within the kernel |
| 21:52.51 | stinebd | to be clear, you can definitely do it in the java layer. but i'm not sure you can do it at the native (libc, console, via shell) layer. |
| 21:53.15 | WisTilt2 | ok got it. guess we need a simple app to be the middleman |
| 21:53.46 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99 did it not boot? |
| 21:54.06 | stinebd | there's a /system/bin/notify |
| 21:54.10 | stinebd | not sure what that does |
| 21:54.36 | WisTilt2 | hmm, that might be interesting |
| 21:54.43 | stinebd | i'd say try that and see what happens |
| 21:54.54 | stinebd | it's a symlink to toolbox, let me check out the code |
| 21:55.45 | stinebd | looks like a simple inotify program |
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| 21:56.15 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: Failed to mount /system |
| 21:56.42 | WisTilt2 | you copied all 3 files over? |
| 21:56.48 | rpierce99 | yep |
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| 22:00.02 | rpierce99 | kernel is from Mar 4, 5:40PM, rootfs is today 12:13pm, system.img is today 1:20PM |
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| 22:02.23 | WisTilt2 | those are right. i dont see what would be different, boots fine here |
| 22:05.06 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: how far did it get? |
| 22:05.40 | rpierce99 | it's about 5-10 lines into the flying text |
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| 22:05.49 | rpierce99 | loads rootfs fine |
| 22:05.53 | rpierce99 | says it cant mount system |
| 22:06.33 | WisTilt2 | so its not even hitting the bootani then? |
| 22:06.39 | rpierce99 | no |
| 22:06.56 | rpierce99 | it tells me it cant find system, when its not there, but when it is there it tells me it cant mount system |
| 22:07.34 | WisTilt2 | can you put your rootfs back on and leave the other 2 files there and see if it does the same |
| 22:07.54 | rpierce99 | isn't my rootfs going to look for system.ext2 |
| 22:08.22 | WisTilt2 | yeah, you did rename my system.img to system.ext2 right? |
| 22:08.32 | rpierce99 | yeah thats when it told me it couldn't find system.img |
| 22:08.37 | rpierce99 | so i put it back to .img |
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| 22:09.35 | rpierce99 | do you think it's checking for .img and then mounting .ext2? |
| 22:09.38 | WisTilt2 | wth. system.ext2 is what it should be. dont know why it would be trying to load .img - didnt change anything pertaining to that |
| 22:09.51 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: did it work for you |
| 22:10.34 | arrrghhh | works great |
| 22:10.38 | arrrghhh | you renamed it to ext2 right? |
| 22:10.44 | arrrghhh | you even mentioned that, i hoped you would. |
| 22:10.49 | rpierce99 | yeah and it told me it couldn't find system.img |
| 22:10.49 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, data works like a champ |
| 22:10.55 | arrrghhh | lol rpierce99 |
| 22:11.01 | arrrghhh | new data.img i assume? |
| 22:11.18 | rpierce99 | yeah it won't work with an old data right, because of signing? |
| 22:11.28 | arrrghhh | i would assume |
| 22:11.32 | arrrghhh | i just created a new folder |
| 22:11.36 | rpierce99 | as did i |
| 22:11.37 | arrrghhh | for RIL testing basically |
| 22:11.47 | arrrghhh | now i have 15 some-odd bundles in there :P |
| 22:11.47 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh, you need to do this to verify everything is up... |
| 22:11.49 | WisTilt2 | logcat and grep for cdma. you'll see the world phone line and hopefully extended cell info being enabled. then grep for Callback setup and see if gsm=0 and cdma=1. |
| 22:11.51 | arrrghhh | probably need to clean that up. |
| 22:12.00 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sure 1 sec |
| 22:12.43 | arrrghhh | does logcat |grep -i work? |
| 22:12.50 | WisTilt2 | logcat -b radio |
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| 22:12.55 | arrrghhh | i'm in windows (at work) so i can't grep outside of.... oh. |
| 22:13.13 | arrrghhh | score WisTilt2 ! |
| 22:13.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | i want teh ril as well! |
| 22:13.33 | arrrghhh | i still get that "Android want us to connect as GSM while we are a CDMA phone !" |
| 22:13.44 | WisTilt2 | yeah thats generic spam |
| 22:13.45 | arrrghhh | but i get callback setup - gsm:0 cdma:1 |
| 22:13.50 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 22:13.54 | WisTilt2 | nice |
| 22:14.01 | arrrghhh | CDMA subscription set to 1 |
| 22:14.10 | WisTilt2 | so it now really knows you have a cdma phone |
| 22:14.18 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, you want this log or shall i make some phone calls to see if it's workin |
| 22:14.23 | arrrghhh | OoOo dare i test CDMA netloc? |
| 22:14.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | what about us gsm poopers? |
| 22:14.30 | WisTilt2 | no netloc yet |
| 22:14.31 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], who cares. |
| 22:14.43 | arrrghhh | it was built for your shiate :P |
| 22:14.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: no one. even not me |
| 22:14.48 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh grep the the cdma |
| 22:14.49 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:14.57 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, ? |
| 22:15.00 | parmaster | u guys know the ril incredibly well |
| 22:15.14 | stinebd | no they don't |
| 22:15.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: seriously, my X1 call log says i've only made 17 hours of voice calls in 1.5 years |
| 22:15.16 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:15.18 | arrrghhh | that's the problem |
| 22:15.20 | WisTilt2 | grep cdma and look for the extended cell info enabled |
| 22:15.30 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yup see that too. |
| 22:15.36 | WisTilt2 | is says enabled? |
| 22:15.43 | arrrghhh | yeppers |
| 22:15.49 | WisTilt2 | very nice |
| 22:15.51 | arrrghhh | D/RIL ( 1596): CDMA extended cell info enabled |
| 22:16.23 | WisTilt2 | play with it for an hour or so then send me the log and ill map out all those funky codes its dumping |
| 22:16.23 | arrrghhh | it went thru 5 updates or so and didn't reboot within android either... |
| 22:16.29 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 22:16.38 | arrrghhh | need to make some phone calls and what-not |
| 22:16.44 | WisTilt2 | you should see those called Triggering something |
| 22:16.48 | arrrghhh | w00t this is exciting |
| 22:17.14 | stinebd | just to be clear regarding this cdma/gsm identification stuff... to the best of my knowledge, ancient android framework only "supported" gsm so the ril had to trick it in the case of a cdma phone |
| 22:17.29 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:17.37 | arrrghhh | cdma really is the redheaded stepchild. |
| 22:17.40 | WisTilt2 | yeah exactly what they did. problem is cdma is missing all the good stuff |
| 22:17.44 | parmaster | hehe |
| 22:17.57 | stinebd | as a result, we still have the fake apns and stuff |
| 22:18.09 | stinebd | which was just a terrible design decision back in the day |
| 22:18.10 | parmaster | nods |
| 22:18.16 | WisTilt2 | i saw those. who came up with the fake cell carrier code? |
| 22:18.39 | stinebd | the ril writer gets to choose which made-up mcc/mnc cdma uses |
| 22:19.18 | WisTilt2 | that could get interesting |
| 22:19.26 | rpierce99 | OMG i hate this fing computer |
| 22:19.28 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:19.33 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, your mbp? |
| 22:19.36 | rpierce99 | yes |
| 22:19.37 | stinebd | you basically just have to pick some pair that no actual gsm carrier uses |
| 22:19.43 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh do you see any Triggering followed by a number? |
| 22:20.11 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, tons |
| 22:20.19 | arrrghhh | number is all over the board too |
| 22:20.21 | WisTilt2 | excellent! thats the stuff we want |
| 22:20.29 | arrrghhh | sweet |
| 22:20.36 | arrrghhh | haven't made any of these mythical phone calls yet |
| 22:20.40 | WisTilt2 | those are all the secret things coming from the tower |
| 22:20.45 | arrrghhh | saw rpierce99 having issues so i tried to get on here ASAP :P |
| 22:20.49 | arrrghhh | Oo |
| 22:20.52 | arrrghhh | secret things |
| 22:21.11 | rpierce99 | the problem is this mac, it is renaming this damn file for me |
| 22:21.19 | stinebd | user error |
| 22:21.35 | WisTilt2 | we know all of them for gsm since our device uses gsm, just need those from cdma to fill in the blanks in the new code |
| 22:21.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn fucking wifi. it talks to the card, but the scan returns.. nuffin. i have searched forums. turns out someone had the problem with wl1271 when he didn't enable the fastclock. i guess i need to disassemble the whole stupid dll now |
| 22:21.56 | rpierce99 | freaking finally let me change it |
| 22:22.27 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol. you're using a mac, that's your problem right there. |
| 22:22.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: at least he's not using windoze |
| 22:22.50 | rpierce99 | if i knew how to access a mounted usb device from the console i would have done it there |
| 22:23.02 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], zing! don't have a lot of choice @ work tho :/ |
| 22:23.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | rpiece99: doesn't it mount it at /Volumes/ some shite? |
| 22:23.40 | rpierce99 | probably, my hdd is in there |
| 22:23.49 | rpierce99 | thx |
| 22:25.45 | arrrghhh | alright. i guess i should disconnect and try to break this RIL. |
| 22:25.45 | arrrghhh | brb |
| 22:28.46 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: sent you the initial log, I'm going to go reproduce low signal now |
| 22:30.32 | rpierce99 | it's getting 3 bars in the microwave :( |
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| 22:31.34 | WisTilt2 | sorry was on phone. ill take a look at the log and yes low signal log would be very helpful. |
| 22:32.04 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99 make sure you are seeing the same cdma stuff and extended cell that arrrghhh is |
| 22:33.29 | jonpry | rpierce99, your getting consistent Cb? |
| 22:35.00 | rpierce99 | jonpry: welcome back, yeah it was pretty consistent earlier, .000000000001 and .000001 were only ~ .5 apart, not passing -nr was about 2 or 3 lower |
| 22:35.04 | rpierce99 | it settled around 84 |
| 22:35.44 | jonpry | sounds pretty good |
| 22:35.53 | jonpry | how high and low has your battery gone? |
| 22:36.10 | rpierce99 | it got down to about 50 last night before i went to bed and plugged it in |
| 22:36.36 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: does it need to be low low, or just lower |
| 22:36.45 | rpierce99 | i got down to 2 bars for a second there |
| 22:36.51 | rpierce99 | but even the microwave doesn't kill it |
| 22:37.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | rpierce99: you forgot to turn on the microwave |
| 22:37.13 | jonpry | aluminum foil? |
| 22:37.16 | jonpry | lol |
| 22:37.21 | WisTilt2 | lower the better, loss of signal would be real good |
| 22:37.46 | rpierce99 | jonpry: will foil do it? |
| 22:37.54 | rpierce99 | even the microwave only got me down to 2 |
| 22:38.21 | jonpry | rpierce99, it might. just wrap the phone up in it |
| 22:38.38 | WisTilt2 | you are close to the tower. your normal quality and sig levels look very good |
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| 22:40.28 | rpierce99 | well apparently it's not cool to keep foil in the house any more |
| 22:40.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | how to protect from alien broadcasts then? |
| 22:41.19 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: you actually switched cells in this log and lost signal briefly so i have the log of the handover i needed |
| 22:41.32 | rpierce99 | when i asked my wife whether we had any she asked why and I told her I wanted to wrap my phone in it she said sorry i don't have anything to keep the aliens away from your phone |
| 22:41.46 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: oh, awesome, yeah i totally did that on purpose :) |
| 22:42.02 | WisTilt2 | seriously. perfect log of the whole sequence |
| 22:42.40 | rpierce99 | why can't we use the NITZ values in here? |
| 22:42.42 | jonpry | which indicates there is nothing wrong with the ril? |
| 22:42.58 | WisTilt2 | not the ril he's using now:) |
| 22:43.10 | stinebd | way to rawk rpierce99 |
| 22:43.30 | jonpry | one of those top secrets rils huh |
| 22:43.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | alien technology |
| 22:43.52 | WisTilt2 | yeah going to be for awhile, lots of coding to add still |
| 22:43.57 | jonpry | seti@phone |
| 22:44.21 | WisTilt2 | dont know if all cdma is like this but sprint doesnt broadcast neighboring cells the same as gsm |
| 22:45.08 | WisTilt2 | what other carriers are cdma? |
| 22:45.17 | jonpry | verizon |
| 22:45.19 | rpierce99 | Verizon is the other major |
| 22:45.22 | rpierce99 | many mvnos |
| 22:45.53 | WisTilt2 | we'll have to run this on a verizon device and see if neighboring cells are the same |
| 22:46.04 | jonpry | iirc there is some deal where cdma must know about neighbors in order to decoder the stream. where as gsm is optional |
| 22:47.53 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: do you want calls too? |
| 22:47.55 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99 you might try incoming and outgoing call, a text or 2 and some browsing so we can populate all the numbers |
| 22:48.01 | rpierce99 | k |
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| 22:55.43 | stinebd | WisTilt2: thanks for syncing your kernel working tree to upstream. makes it much easier for me to test :) |
| 22:57.53 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: did i do that? |
| 22:58.23 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: let me know if that log is missing something that it should have, I'm not sure if anything rolled off the top |
| 22:58.50 | rpierce99 | order should be outgoing call, incoming call, outgoing text, incoming text, browsing |
| 22:59.00 | WisTilt2 | no looks fine so far |
| 22:59.21 | stinebd | WisTilt2: well camera works with your kernel so i think you did |
| 22:59.56 | WisTilt2 | oh that, yeah did that over a week ago |
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| 23:01.00 | rpierce99 | jonpry: do you want a copy of my log or should i just hold onto it for calibration? |
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| 23:04.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | holy fucking crapola |
| 23:04.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | wl1251 driver is worky |
| 23:04.42 | stinebd | git push |
| 23:04.43 | stinebd | nao |
| 23:04.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | hum. if you do insist ;) |
| 23:06.00 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, had a reboot to winmo. is historical logging disabled? |
| 23:06.22 | WisTilt2 | yeah kmsg is |
| 23:06.29 | arrrghhh | bleh |
| 23:06.33 | WisTilt2 | microwave was tough on it huh? |
| 23:06.35 | arrrghhh | well up until that reboot, it was doin great |
| 23:07.42 | WisTilt2 | np, only need about 15mins or so and should be enough. rpierce went through calls, txt, browsing, and his log has lots of good info so if you can do the same those 2 should be enough. |
| 23:08.44 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 23:09.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: ping |
| 23:09.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], pong |
| 23:10.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I'll go to bed soon |
| 23:10.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: i have wl1251-sdio working now on my device |
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| 23:10.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], you got wl1251_sdio working with PSM? |
| 23:10.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | with or without the .irq = MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(29) |
| 23:10.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: dunno yet. what do we need for psm? |
| 23:10.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | that: |
| 23:10.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | .irq = MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(29) |
| 23:10.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | did you use gpio irq |
| 23:10.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | or sdio irq |
| 23:10.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
| 23:11.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: without that irq. i think the irq request there is broken. it just causes a data abort and panic |
| 23:11.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 23:11.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've a different problem |
| 23:11.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | which is that the phone freeze |
| 23:11.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: but we can just assign it as sd slot status irq and it will give the same effect |
| 23:11.32 | GNUtoo|laptop | with .irq set |
| 23:11.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | no |
| 23:11.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | you need dedicated gpio irq for PSM to work |
| 23:11.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | and you want PSM |
| 23:12.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | PSM is power saving mode |
| 23:12.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically it works like that |
| 23:12.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: well. we have two choices - to hack wl1251-sdio or to fix it |
| 23:12.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | the router buffers packets for the phone |
| 23:12.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | and then the wifi card request them all at once |
| 23:12.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | in between the card sleeps |
| 23:12.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | that saves *a lot* of power |
| 23:13.00 | GNUtoo|laptop | else the battery is out in 2h with wifi |
| 23:13.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | or something like that |
| 23:13.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: it is our in 5h without wifi either way |
| 23:13.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 23:13.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: mega hax. http://gitorious.org/~ast/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/alex-linux-xperia/commit/1bb1113694c93505291ce76745ef367a1e4300ae |
| 23:14.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: all was needed was to supply wifi power gpio in both sd slot power *AND* wl1251 power callback. cost me 2 days of debugging |
| 23:14.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh yes, one detail is missing |
| 23:15.14 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, so far speed tests are actually more consistent, with dl being better than ul... which for whatever reason was backwards "normally" |
| 23:15.33 | arrrghhh | i would get 2x upload than download on 80%+ of the speed tests. |
| 23:16.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], are you aware of bob copeland's patch |
| 23:16.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://bobcopeland.com/srcs/android/msm_wifi.patch |
| 23:16.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | it messes up the .name |
| 23:16.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | but it works |
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| 23:17.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: well, it's a hax. i have spent quite some time, but finally implemented the board-htckovsky-mmc.c properly, so that it just works and doesn't drain power when unused (btw, rfkill does shut all power off when blocked) |
| 23:18.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes I know that it still drain power |
| 23:18.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically the proper way is the runtime PM |
| 23:18.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I didn't look into it yet |
| 23:18.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | basically PM in linux is fubar |
| 23:18.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | I want PSM first |
| 23:18.30 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, looks fantastic. you just want the logcat -b radio? |
| 23:18.48 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: yes |
| 23:19.34 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99 you sure switch back and forth from edge to umts a lot where you are |
| 23:20.03 | arrrghhh | that's a good test then eh? |
| 23:20.10 | arrrghhh | and it's 1xrtt and evdo on cdma ;) |
| 23:20.13 | rpierce99 | like i've said, I'm kind of in the boonies, so I'm surprised I get good cell signal |
| 23:20.26 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, do you get a lot of SoD's? |
| 23:20.33 | rpierce99 | nope, almost never |
| 23:20.36 | arrrghhh | odd |
| 23:20.42 | rpierce99 | haven't seen one in weeks/months |
| 23:20.43 | arrrghhh | there's a few users that get 10+ daily |
| 23:20.45 | WisTilt2 | his signal looks great though |
| 23:20.49 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 23:20.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: my dmesg http://pastebin.com/PHFggTai in case you want to have a look. nothing interesting actually |
| 23:21.04 | arrrghhh | airaves apparently make the SoD happen immediately |
| 23:21.11 | arrrghhh | specifically the old airaves, that only do 1xrtt data. |
| 23:21.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | [ 41.552917] wl1251: using SDIO interrupt |
| 23:21.30 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh make sure you pm me that log, im sure you already know that:) |
| 23:21.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: yep, i didn't specify pdata interrupt. it'd be a heavy task to debug and fix that |
| 23:21.56 | WisTilt2 | dont want some troll to steal your identity |
| 23:21.59 | rpierce99 | whats an IMEI between thousands of random google users |
| 23:22.06 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 23:22.10 | arrrghhh | i usually trim my logs |
| 23:22.17 | arrrghhh | but i guess for you, that's not really need :P |
| 23:22.24 | WisTilt2 | not hardly |
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| 23:22.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], they told me an advise in linux-wireless ml: try to make the .irq work on mainline |
| 23:22.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I cound't do it |
| 23:22.57 | rpierce99 | i just put my pastebin on private so it hopefully doesn't make it to google or whatever |
| 23:22.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | since I've no serial |
| 23:23.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | I can't control the phone |
| 23:23.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, stole wl1251 firmware and nvs from n900.. will load the ones from my X1 next time |
| 23:23.09 | jonpry | rpierce99, i'll take a copy whenever you reboot or whatever |
| 23:23.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: whaat about serial? |
| 23:23.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], you could take them from cyanogen |
| 23:23.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], but no nvs in cyanogen |
| 23:23.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: well, we can parse nvs from nand. we actually've been doing for like 1.5 years |
| 23:24.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 23:24.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | you can do that in n900 too? |
| 23:24.23 | GNUtoo|laptop | you know /dev/mtd1 in n900? |
| 23:24.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: i have no n900 |
| 23:24.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 23:25.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | now i wonder whether android will love my wifi or i'll have to do command-line voodoo |
| 23:25.13 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], android? |
| 23:25.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: am i a traitor now? |
| 23:26.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], not at all but it's strange |
| 23:26.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | I tough you wanted GNU/Linux |
| 23:26.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: well, actually i've told you - we want to make a working nand android rom first. without hw acceleration for 2d and 3d and without camera, using GNU/Linux would be not so fun.. and no one's going to disassemble that much code |
| 23:26.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | beside ti android wlan driver would be what I would use for android |
| 23:26.35 | rpierce99 | jonpry: http://pastebin.com/Vqi50rsY |
| 23:27.18 | arrrghhh | s/need/needed/ |
| 23:27.23 | arrrghhh | delayed reaction |
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| 23:27.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], there is a (very little) hope about what you told: |
| 23:27.38 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: cool |
| 23:27.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], upstream is blocking 3d and camera because they require non-free userspace components |
| 23:27.54 | GNUtoo|laptop | upstream == kernel |
| 23:27.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: upstream is right |
| 23:28.25 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes indeed |
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| 23:28.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. i will be fine with android as well.. i have come to the conclusion that using X11 on a tiny 2.9'' screen and without hardware acceleration is not for me |
| 23:29.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | but maybe qualcomm would do something intelligent: use the standard API that work with free software and optional non-free software |
| 23:29.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | i bet VNC will be even faster then fbdev. but well, we have little ram for that |
| 23:29.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], note that I do replicant too |
| 23:29.47 | GNUtoo|laptop | what bother me the most is the non-standard android kernel<->userland interfaces |
| 23:30.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: well. the problem with qcom is that google decided not to refactor their patches and fork the tree. now that qcom and google trees have diverged, there's almost no chance of merging them and going mainline |
| 23:30.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | really? |
| 23:30.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | just look at CA tree and compare with google's |
| 23:30.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | what about the msm mailing list |
| 23:30.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes I know it's different |
| 23:31.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | but qcom submit stuff for mainline |
| 23:31.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | not a lot |
| 23:31.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | but still |
| 23:31.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | well.. if you want to merge all msm stuff to mainline, that'd take at least half a year and 3-5 full-day paid developers |
| 23:33.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | and then. i don't think anyone except us wants to support old qdsp5 amss and msm7200A devices. and also, for wince devices, we have a lot of hacks.. which can be integrated cleanly, but would require modifying native android boards for the refactored apis and a lot of testing. so i think it's really easier to support a separate tree.. by the time we finish nand rom, i think it'll be time to upgrade the devices |
| 23:33.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo|laptop: i think my next device will be omap4 or tegra 250.. as for tegra, it already has X drivers and opengl.. |
| 23:34.49 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], i'm pretty sure it is time for an upgrade, but i'm too cheap and the kbd is too good on this device :p |
| 23:35.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: tbh, i want a tablet.. i need a large screen to read pdfs and stuff |
| 23:35.27 | arrrghhh | yea, that would be nice. |
| 23:35.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | Alex[sp3dev], ok |
| 23:35.39 | arrrghhh | for the price, nook seems great. |
| 23:36.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. i want a cool tablet with dual-core A9 and decent graphics. to play quake3 and gangsta ;) |
| 23:36.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:36.27 | arrrghhh | ic |
| 23:36.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | i want acer iconia tab a501 or samsung galaxy tab 10.1 if there will be a tegra2 version |
| 23:37.16 | arrrghhh | i can wait for new hardware. my phone doesn't need to be replaced anytime soon. |
| 23:37.29 | arrrghhh | tablet does seem nice tho, for consumption ;) |
| 23:37.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, it's not a replacement, but just another geeky device |
| 23:37.45 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 23:38.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://www.rb.ru/upload/users/picture/488784/tole_2010-10-14_18.47.37.jpg |
| 23:38.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | this guy also has Xperia X1 ;)) |
| 23:39.11 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:40.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: this guy is like a russian Chuck Norris |
| 23:40.33 | WisTilt2 | so arrrghhh, looks like you only made a call and no sms? you are switching back and forth edge/umts also and signal is slightly lower than pierce's but i have good data between the 2 logs. |
| 23:40.56 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev] do you really play quake3 still? |
| 23:41.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: why not? wanna seduce me to go quake live? |
| 23:41.37 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: on CDMA i think it switches data off of EVDO to do other things (calls, etc) is that maybe what you are seeing? |
| 23:42.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i mean, i want to learn opengl es 2.0 programming on a real device and also to play some games during especially boring lectures or when on train |
| 23:42.11 | WisTilt2 | Alex[sp3dev]: were you playing quake back in the early days, 1998-2000 by chance? |
| 23:42.28 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, it does switch off data to use calls/sms, and no no sms messages. i use google voice which uses data... do you want me to send some txts? |
| 23:42.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | WisTilt2: i had no pc then. i was playing quake 1 with my friend on his mother's work pc |
| 23:42.54 | arrrghhh | i played quake back in the day. hell i played doom back in the day |
| 23:43.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i'm too young for that |
| 23:43.09 | arrrghhh | quake got all those crazy mods tho. you could become the rocket was probably my favorite. |
| 23:43.16 | arrrghhh | Alex[sp3dev], how old are you? |
| 23:43.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: 19 |
| 23:43.24 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 23:43.42 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: right there with ya man, quakeworld team fortress was my game |
| 23:43.43 | WisTilt2 | our clan back then was heavy into quake, and weapons factory. we were number one on both game ladders for a long time, lots of fun |
| 23:44.10 | rpierce99 | I ran a dumb clan for a while back then, we didn't do anything interesting |
| 23:44.21 | WisTilt2 | my son got me into it so myself and another friend (we were both in our 40's) pretty much ran things and the youngsters did all the heavy hitting |
| 23:44.26 | arrrghhh | yea i belonged to a CS clan in college... |
| 23:44.33 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, nice |
| 23:45.04 | WisTilt2 | CS clan in quake? |
| 23:45.11 | arrrghhh | sorry counter-strike |
| 23:45.16 | rpierce99 | i'm sure that gave you guys an advantage, some cool headed strategists to make sure the dumb kids stayed inline |
| 23:45.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | arrrghhh: hum. CS didn't appeal to me. and i hate guys playing WoW. that sucks.. my roommate used to play it |
| 23:45.21 | WisTilt2 | lol, we did counter-strike also |
| 23:45.36 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, nice. i played that _a lot_ in college :D |
| 23:45.38 | WisTilt2 | ever heard of [GQF] ? |
| 23:45.55 | arrrghhh | hrm... i think so. |
| 23:46.01 | arrrghhh | there was... a couple. |
| 23:46.03 | arrrghhh | :P |
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| 23:47.14 | WisTilt2 | that was us. all our players were local here and i installed our wireless service for all of them so they'd have good connections. |
| 23:47.29 | WisTilt2 | free of course:) |
| 23:47.31 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:47.33 | arrrghhh | damn guy |
| 23:47.42 | arrrghhh | so can i start a franchise here in co? heh |
| 23:47.56 | arrrghhh | of the wireless company, not the clan |
| 23:48.06 | WisTilt2 | my son and i still play modern warfare now but i dont as much as i used to |
| 23:49.06 | WisTilt2 | we actually were going to build a wireless network up north of boulder up to the wy boarder on that interstate but it fell through |
| 23:49.19 | arrrghhh | aw |
| 23:49.28 | arrrghhh | there's already a wireless company in uhm... |
| 23:49.30 | arrrghhh | not firestone |
| 23:49.42 | arrrghhh | i forget, somewhere along the i-25 corridor towards wy |
| 23:50.03 | arrrghhh | i also worked for a wireless company based in the denver metro area |
| 23:50.13 | arrrghhh | serviced areas out in castle rock and franktown |
| 23:50.14 | WisTilt2 | high plains wireless i think, if they're still running |
| 23:50.28 | arrrghhh | lots of places there were no wireline high speed service providers |
| 23:50.33 | arrrghhh | 'last mile' customers if you will |
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| 23:51.28 | WisTilt2 | last mile is what we do here. our network here covers around 2000 sq miles |
| 23:51.41 | stinebd | that's a metric buttload of last miles |
| 23:51.59 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:52.09 | arrrghhh | how much is a metric buttload? |
| 23:52.21 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, the ISP i worked for had coverage all over, but spotty. |
| 23:52.33 | rpierce99 | 3.33 US buttloads |
| 23:52.36 | arrrghhh | only very specific areas were serviced basically |
| 23:52.49 | arrrghhh | shit... i don't know how much a US buttload is! |
| 23:52.54 | arrrghhh | it's probably getting bigger tho |
| 23:52.56 | WisTilt2 | must use good equipment and know wth you're doing to make this stuff work right with lots of customers on it. |
| 23:53.07 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea no shit. this dude didn't. |
| 23:53.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: do you know how i can make libhardware shut the fuck up and just let me use my wlan0 in android? |
| 23:53.28 | arrrghhh | i learned a lot, and realized he had not a clue after about 2 weeks. worked there for about a year heh |
| 23:53.35 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: libhardware? |
| 23:53.55 | WisTilt2 | we run all tdma wireless equipment so service latency is always around 1.5-3ms no matter how much traffic our sites have |
| 23:53.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: libhardware_legacy has some poopcode to load either tiwlan or brcm |
| 23:54.24 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, that's ridiculous. this was all motorola canopy stuff... |
| 23:54.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: ideally, i want to manually load the driver or build it into the zImage and only use rfkill from userspace |
| 23:54.40 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: yeah you'll have to do some hacking there |
| 23:54.40 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, kinda drifing OT tho, heh. about this kernel, does it have all your newest PM fixes? |
| 23:54.42 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: canopy is junk, all hype |
| 23:54.55 | WisTilt2 | yes it does |
| 23:55.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: me? damn, don't feel like downloading the whole shite of android tree |
| 23:55.10 | arrrghhh | heh canopy was junk for sure. |
| 23:55.21 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: someone will |
| 23:55.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | but yes, it looks like libhardware_legacy will need a complete rewrite for my 35 |
| 23:55.37 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, it's still taking a while to sleep... you were thinking the 30s lag to sleep was RIL? |
| 23:56.16 | rpierce99 | same here re: sleep |
| 23:56.19 | WisTilt2 | see which wake lock is holding it up |
| 23:56.24 | arrrghhh | kk 1 sec |
| 23:57.16 | arrrghhh | heh i had 3 |
| 23:57.32 | rpierce99 | PowerManagerService, evdev for me |
| 23:57.47 | arrrghhh | PowerManagerService, main, and KeyEvents for me |
| 23:57.48 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: libhardware_legacy will need to be reworked and also wpa_supplicant should be upgraded to 0.6.x |
| 23:58.03 | stinebd | and some small config changes in init.rc and overlay |
| 23:58.14 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, last sleep was just PowerManagerService |
| 23:58.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | fucking idiots |
| 23:58.28 | stinebd | none of it is terribly difficult |
| 23:58.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | why couldn't they have at least followed lsb |
| 23:59.00 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yea every time there was at least a wakelock on PowerManagerService. |
