| 00:00.09 | cedesmith | but if it involves patching the radio in RAM i think i don't want rmnet |
| 00:01.04 | cedesmith | but for now i don't know much about rmnet |
| 00:02.07 | MN_ | ah okay are you still running lk or are you using magldr |
| 00:03.56 | cedesmith | they are very much interchangeable , i flash lk when developing and when had enough i flash magldr back |
| 00:04.26 | cedesmith | don't have to reflash rom or anything else, just bootloader |
| 00:06.11 | cedesmith | but you have to configure partition table layout in cLK to match partition table from magldr ( you get that in magldr tty mode with ad listpart if memory serves me ) |
| 00:07.36 | cedesmith | now that power collapse works and phone does not reboot will probably start to use cLK |
| 00:07.58 | MN_ | ah nice its getting there slowly i guess |
| 00:08.11 | MN_ | what about charging |
| 00:08.28 | MN_ | can you do it when phone is off |
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| 00:09.15 | cedesmith | for now it reboots but is doable |
| 00:10.14 | cedesmith | when charging and off is not realy off, is actually on but with display and other things off |
| 00:10.21 | MN_ | okay nice maybe you could update your thread with the latest changes :) |
| 00:10.26 | MN_ | ah right |
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| 00:13.11 | cedesmith | so i think it should boot recovery so kernel driver will charge battery ( also radio will be off ) |
| 00:13.33 | cedesmith | but since lcd is off user can not see reboot option so CWM needs to check cmd line and reboot on any key press |
| 00:13.52 | MN_ | right |
| 00:14.13 | cedesmith | so phone will power up as expected |
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| 00:17.09 | NetRipper | i've made some changes to the backend of htc-linux.org |
| 00:17.21 | Cotulla | NetRipper, ? |
| 00:17.26 | NetRipper | if anyone notices some problems with the site.. page errors, not being able to update or whatever |
| 00:17.29 | NetRipper | let me know |
| 00:17.33 | NetRipper | the wiki |
| 00:17.51 | Cotulla | spam? ;) |
| 00:18.01 | NetRipper | yea trying some anti-spam stuff |
| 00:18.51 | NetRipper | it's relatively harmless spam.. but earlier today it defaced the main page ;) |
| 00:18.56 | NetRipper | wasn't too happy about that |
| 00:19.11 | pupnik_ | thanks for the fixes NetRipper |
| 00:19.47 | fakker | slaps Cotulla |
| 00:19.59 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:20.14 | NetRipper | off to bed now, nn :) |
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| 00:55.04 | jonpry | i tell you this sd card thing is annoying |
| 00:55.43 | phh | you mean writing a proper mmc init stuff ? |
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| 01:07.24 | jonpry | phh: msm_sdcc doesn't resume |
| 01:07.33 | phh | ah |
| 01:07.39 | jonpry | well it sort of does |
| 01:07.47 | Cotulla | epic |
| 01:08.27 | jonpry | its actually just the reinit that is broke |
| 01:08.50 | jonpry | if i remove the redetect stuff from kernel, then sd is still working after resume |
| 01:08.53 | Cotulla | clocks power pins |
| 01:09.02 | jonpry | well all of that is fine |
| 01:09.02 | Cotulla | high cpu load |
| 01:09.10 | Cotulla | interrupts |
| 01:09.16 | Cotulla | reset |
| 01:09.19 | jonpry | cause i can disable clocks/power/pins, and then bring them up and it is still working |
| 01:09.49 | Cotulla | but u may disable wrong pins and it why it still working |
| 01:09.55 | Cotulla | or disable not full pins |
| 01:10.00 | Cotulla | and etc |
| 01:10.07 | Cotulla | I got such problems few times |
| 01:10.08 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 01:10.19 | jonpry | yeah it seems weird that it works without the reinit |
| 01:10.22 | fakker | cuz ya dumb Cotulla |
| 01:10.32 | jonpry | card should be dead without init |
| 01:10.38 | Cotulla | n00bhands down? |
| 01:10.40 | jonpry | operating in 125khz spi mode |
| 01:10.43 | fakker | ;] |
| 01:10.51 | Cotulla | anyway, what's up? which messages u got? |
| 01:11.06 | Cotulla | it shutdown power at suspend? |
| 01:11.12 | Cotulla | or keep it |
| 01:11.13 | jonpry | supposedly |
| 01:11.18 | jonpry | and bring it back up |
| 01:11.25 | jonpry | then "failed to re-detect card" |
| 01:11.34 | Cotulla | delays? |
| 01:11.42 | jonpry | but if i just remove code that "re-detects" card, then it works |
| 01:11.43 | Cotulla | just insert mdelay(500); and all ur problems are solved |
| 01:11.50 | Cotulla | hm |
| 01:11.52 | jonpry | seems to give itself almost 5 seconds |
| 01:12.07 | Cotulla | maybe stack is buggy |
| 01:12.09 | Cotulla | .27? |
| 01:12.13 | jonpry | 35 |
| 01:12.22 | Cotulla | maybe nobody tested it there |
| 01:12.31 | Cotulla | compare with htc 32 one |
| 01:12.50 | Cotulla | but htc may stay with power |
| 01:13.03 | jonpry | well, i tried keeping on power and clocks |
| 01:13.09 | Cotulla | and? |
| 01:13.16 | jonpry | re-detect fails |
| 01:13.19 | jonpry | card works fine |
| 01:13.22 | jonpry | usual crap |
| 01:13.28 | Cotulla | why it need redect if u keep data |
| 01:13.44 | jonpry | i think it should need redetect |
| 01:13.49 | jonpry | part of sd subsystem |
| 01:14.06 | Cotulla | if u didn't turn off power- u don't need redetect |
| 01:14.26 | jonpry | in even newer kernels you can set removable=0 on sd cards |
| 01:14.29 | jonpry | .37 or something |
| 01:14.32 | Cotulla | card not interesting what's up on other side... it just waiting commands |
| 01:14.54 | Cotulla | what about |
| 01:14.57 | Cotulla | test off and on? |
| 01:15.01 | Cotulla | not at suspend |
| 01:15.12 | jonpry | vreg for sd? |
| 01:15.19 | Cotulla | yeah for example |
| 01:15.28 | Cotulla | but wait |
| 01:15.34 | jonpry | its possible that vreg just not working |
| 01:15.53 | Cotulla | we talking about something abstract |
| 01:15.58 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.06 | Cotulla | what exactly fails? |
| 01:16.08 | Cotulla | CMD0? |
| 01:16.14 | jonpry | dunno, i put in printk's |
| 01:16.19 | jonpry | dumping ramconsole atm |
| 01:16.23 | Cotulla | heh, so detect it firstly |
| 01:16.27 | Cotulla | which command fails |
| 01:16.32 | Cotulla | and with which code |
| 01:16.37 | Cotulla | timeout, wrong voltage and etc |
| 01:16.51 | Cotulla | maybe stack have too many retries |
| 01:16.54 | Cotulla | which card u have? |
| 01:17.03 | Cotulla | *too small |
| 01:17.16 | Cotulla | some 32gb card with slow memory may need much more time to init and etc |
| 01:17.36 | jonpry | 8gb |
| 01:18.08 | Cotulla | old/cheap/have buggy label? |
| 01:18.31 | Cotulla | anyway I will suggest u to detect source of "failed to re-detect card" message |
| 01:18.44 | Cotulla | exact action which fails |
| 01:19.08 | AstainHellbring | anyone here getting atrix? |
| 01:19.55 | Cotulla | looks like no |
| 01:20.01 | Cotulla | (timeout of answer) |
| 01:20.33 | Cotulla | I am waiting HTC dual core |
| 01:20.54 | jonpry | its good card |
| 01:20.57 | jonpry | sandisk |
| 01:21.02 | jonpry | works flawlessly |
| 01:21.06 | Cotulla | I had sandisk also |
| 01:21.10 | AstainHellbring | I dont wanna wait another year for htc to pull head out of ass |
| 01:21.10 | Cotulla | with buggy label |
| 01:21.15 | Cotulla | died after 2 days |
| 01:21.16 | Cotulla | :'( |
| 01:21.26 | Cotulla | seems was a fake one |
| 01:22.28 | Cotulla | and? it's Motorolla pull head out of ass with atrix. HTC develops more slow, but great phones |
| 01:22.44 | jonpry | i'm having trouble figuring out my own log |
| 01:23.00 | Cotulla | logging logging and logging |
| 01:23.31 | jonpry | ah |
| 01:23.34 | jonpry | mmc_sd_init_card: send app op conf: -110 |
| 01:23.52 | Cotulla | OP_COND? |
| 01:27.01 | jonpry | SD_APP_OP_COND |
| 01:27.11 | Cotulla | timeout? |
| 01:27.59 | Cotulla | #define ETIMEDOUT 110 /* Connection timed out */ |
| 01:28.00 | Cotulla | ya |
| 01:28.25 | Cotulla | it test it only 1 sec |
| 01:28.29 | Cotulla | maybe try to increase time? |
| 01:29.24 | jonpry | i think 5 seconds is plenty |
| 01:29.30 | jonpry | runs 5 times |
| 01:29.40 | jonpry | 1 second is spec maximum |
| 01:31.08 | Cotulla | hm yes |
| 01:31.27 | Cotulla | but it accept CMD0 |
| 01:31.42 | jonpry | go idle? |
| 01:31.43 | Cotulla | did u try with other cards? |
| 01:31.50 | Cotulla | yes idle |
| 01:32.01 | Cotulla | also try other clock source... maybe this isn't stable |
| 01:32.33 | jonpry | i'm thinking power is not cycled |
| 01:32.41 | jonpry | and card is not in IDENT state |
| 01:32.44 | Cotulla | maybe u using wrong preg |
| 01:33.32 | Cotulla | I am using (1 << 23) for dex call |
| 01:33.35 | Cotulla | on RHO |
| 01:33.37 | Cotulla | as sd power |
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| 01:41.06 | jonpry | yep, using 1<<23 |
| 01:41.25 | Cotulla | so right |
| 01:41.38 | Cotulla | maybe gpios |
| 01:41.53 | jonpry | its just the .27 mmc.c |
| 01:42.02 | jonpry | can't be wrong, famous last words |
| 01:42.04 | Cotulla | or clock source |
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| 01:57.57 | jonpry | Cotulla: i don't see anything wrong with the clocking, and what could be wrong with it anyways? if the card works, it just doesn't like cmd1 |
| 01:58.05 | jonpry | read/write fine |
| 01:58.54 | jonpry | cards don't even have pll |
| 02:08.01 | Cotulla | card clock derived from one of pll |
| 02:08.52 | jonpry | but it does not matter how stable it is |
| 02:08.57 | jonpry | and it must be stable enough |
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| 02:10.41 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, what's up |
| 02:10.50 | WisTilt2 | damn, autobot? |
| 02:10.56 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:11.09 | WisTilt2 | just logged on and bam |
| 02:11.13 | arrrghhh | i'm that quick |
| 02:11.26 | arrrghhh | tryin to see how bad i can break my phone with nand |
| 02:11.36 | WisTilt2 | i need to run something by jonpry real quick then ill get the kernel report |
| 02:12.44 | jonpry | hey |
| 02:12.45 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: fixed the ring buffer, however, dont know wth is up with this. i ended up allocating a dummy buffer of 1MB then make the 64k buffer and now data is not overwritten. seems like something on the prior memory boundry is using that area possibly? |
| 02:13.14 | WisTilt2 | data in the 1mb buffer is changing at each resume so beats me |
| 02:13.27 | jonpry | thats freaky |
| 02:13.28 | WisTilt2 | memory alignment problem maybe i dont know. |
| 02:13.56 | WisTilt2 | nothing is touched at all in my 64k buffer but all the 1mb addresses are changing |
| 02:14.34 | jonpry | statically allocate it? |
| 02:14.56 | Cotulla | which buffer? |
| 02:15.03 | WisTilt2 | what memory addy to allocate to? |
| 02:15.22 | jonpry | or just char buf[64*1024] |
| 02:15.45 | WisTilt2 | dont follow you.. still need to zalloc though? |
| 02:15.59 | jonpry | no just like global variable it :p |
| 02:16.03 | WisTilt2 | ah |
| 02:16.38 | jonpry | that may blow something up |
| 02:16.41 | WisTilt2 | let me try that. maybe the zalloc is messed up with some overlapping address. strange its on exactly a 1mb boundary though |
| 02:17.24 | WisTilt2 | Cotulla: my super secret buffer to do magic stuff:) |
| 02:18.03 | WisTilt2 | actually jonpry will be doing it, im just setting the buffer up and waking things up every few minutes to gather data |
| 02:18.19 | Cotulla | okay ^^ |
| 02:18.38 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: im setting this up for 5min intervals to start. we can see what kind of data we get with that and can shorten or lengthen that time later |
| 02:18.39 | jonpry | i have really not made much progress on the battery software |
| 02:18.41 | Cotulla | I have more super secret buffers than u :P |
| 02:18.52 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:18.57 | WisTilt2 | Cotulla I know you do, thats just plain scary |
| 02:19.03 | Cotulla | it was joke |
| 02:19.12 | Cotulla | to make development more bring |
| 02:19.14 | Cotulla | :D |
| 02:19.24 | jonpry | money >> buffer >> where is it? |
| 02:20.42 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i gotta go eat dinner, but rhod100/auo folk reports are now consistent with the rest of the devices (it seems) |
| 02:20.57 | RaiderX | hi :) |
| 02:20.57 | arrrghhh | and i had a few really failed wakes. i assume everything else came up before the fb and just choked it |
| 02:21.18 | arrrghhh | i had a few where i would touch to wake, and it wouldn't wake. i'd get haptic feedback from unlocking, but panel would never actually come up |
| 02:22.05 | arrrghhh | alright, bbl |
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| 02:22.45 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: static buffer works correctly. wrote 64k zeros, dumped to dmesg then wrote 64k 0xff and both retained data after suspend so looks like that works fine. i just set it up that way to collect the data. |
| 02:23.12 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: ok ping me when you get back and we'll discuss |
| 02:23.17 | jonpry | it may be worth investigating why kalloc is not working |
| 02:23.37 | jonpry | i mean, one would expect kernel to not even work |
| 02:23.42 | WisTilt2 | agreed. may have an overlapping memory issue causing other problems we're chasing |
| 02:23.44 | jonpry | or at least have serious problem |
| 02:24.37 | jonpry | where is emwe hiding out today? |
| 02:24.55 | WisTilt2 | yeah static buffer working nicely. several sleep/wakes and data is not lost now |
| 02:25.54 | jonpry | congrats |
| 02:26.16 | WisTilt2 | im going to code the reading and storing of the bat voltage and see what it looks like over an hour or so in 5min intervals |
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| 02:26.32 | jonpry | need current too |
| 02:26.57 | WisTilt2 | voltage and current good to start? |
| 02:27.04 | jonpry | and end i think |
| 02:27.26 | jonpry | i think the measurement interval should just be constant |
| 02:27.28 | WisTilt2 | i havent checked yet but are the values 16bit that are returned? |
| 02:27.48 | jonpry | i don't know |
| 02:28.02 | manekineko_ | I'm no expert on battery algos, but I think temperature could be relevant as well |
| 02:28.23 | WisTilt2 | i need to look at camros code but i think they are. that will give us lots of data to work with in the 64k |
| 02:28.28 | jonpry | yeah, the thing i'm using doesn't actually use it |
| 02:28.55 | WisTilt2 | temperature probably needs to be added later when we get the charging side redone for sure |
| 02:29.22 | jonpry | i think the deal is that you would use a temperature compensated voltage |
| 02:30.15 | jonpry | like 4.2v @80c same as 4.1v @ 20c |
| 02:31.09 | stinebd | 80 C yowzers thats a toasty battery |
| 02:32.54 | jonpry | the trouble with the temperature is that the measurement might be totally out of sink with reality |
| 02:33.50 | manekineko_ | what makes it less reliable than current and voltage? |
| 02:35.09 | jonpry | well, its like an oven. you can measure the amps and volts into it, but as for the temperature of the oven, and the temperature of the roast, these are somewhat less responsive |
| 02:35.47 | manekineko_ | well, I guess it's a question of the hardware involved, which I know nothing about for our devices |
| 02:36.05 | manekineko_ | my infrared thermometer seems to have no problem showing continuous variations in temperature |
| 02:36.16 | jonpry | i think its a thermistor on the battery pack |
| 02:37.47 | manekineko_ | does the temperature vary fast enough to make those overly inaccurate? |
| 02:38.01 | jonpry | i think the problem is that it is slower |
| 02:38.21 | jonpry | the whole thermal response caused by the packs mass |
| 02:38.26 | jonpry | like inside it might be hotter |
| 02:39.00 | jonpry | but it doesn't really matter, the algorithm is like impossible. and its super easy to try normalizing things when its done |
| 02:39.05 | jonpry | i have no clue if it will help |
| 02:39.11 | manekineko_ | hah fair enough |
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| 02:41.40 | jonpry | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_observer |
| 02:42.53 | manekineko_ | you're not deriving your own battery algo from these general formulas are you?? |
| 02:43.36 | jonpry | http://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/3/9/1586/pdf |
| 02:44.30 | manekineko_ | hah please tell me you wrote this paper |
| 02:44.38 | jonpry | no |
| 02:44.49 | manekineko_ | aww too bad, that would've been sweet |
| 02:46.35 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: readings are 32bit so looks like with our 64k ring buffer we'll have close to 30days rotating history |
| 02:46.47 | jonpry | hmm |
| 02:46.50 | WisTilt2 | thats for voltage and current only though |
| 02:47.17 | jonpry | i think 5 minutes might be a bit slow |
| 02:47.41 | WisTilt2 | you think we need to read more often than 5mins? |
| 02:48.34 | jonpry | kind of |
| 02:48.56 | WisTilt2 | that would probably be fine while in sleep but yeah, if you're on a phone call for example, we'd probably want to poll that quicker since there would be much more drain |
| 02:49.03 | jonpry | somebody said you could kill the battery in just 2 hours |
| 02:49.10 | jonpry | so thats like 1%/min |
| 02:49.44 | jonpry | i don't think the state observer is well defined for weird time steos |
| 02:49.49 | jonpry | er steps |
| 02:49.59 | jonpry | we could bother people in #math :p |
| 02:50.04 | WisTilt2 | i dont think so. ive been on a call for almost an hour and was no where near that kind of drain |
| 02:50.42 | jonpry | i think angry birds while using speaker phone would be more like it |
| 02:51.28 | jonpry | maybe just make it a boot parm |
| 02:51.38 | jonpry | some people will make 1min data, some won't |
| 02:51.46 | jonpry | algorithm doesn't actually care |
| 02:54.29 | WisTilt2 | so far so good... buffer is filling with readings sequentially like it should. going to let it run for 1hr in sleep and see what the voltage & temp values look like at each 5min interval |
| 02:55.35 | jonpry | i can make userland app that just save this stuff to file. we will probably need offline analyzer first |
| 02:55.43 | jonpry | its very tricky :p |
| 02:55.46 | WisTilt2 | i'd be interested in seeing how much power we're using bringing it up every 5mins to do this |
| 02:56.42 | WisTilt2 | I can set this buffer up in a sysfs you can read from userland and save it, good idea |
| 02:57.09 | WisTilt2 | i was going to do a dirty hack to save it on the sd card but i like your idea better |
| 02:58.01 | WisTilt2 | bah, need to make a change before i run this 1hr test. forgot i need to store timestamps in the buffer |
| 02:58.22 | jonpry | not if its consistant |
| 02:58.48 | WisTilt2 | yeah true, ill just let it run as it is |
| 03:00.05 | WisTilt2 | i should timestamp this so we can see exactly how long this takes per wake |
| 03:01.15 | jonpry | yes, that could be important |
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| 03:19.34 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: looks like at each wake, then read volt & current, there is a spike in the values. the adc must have a delay startup value i need to add before reading to get correct values after adc settles down? |
| 03:20.06 | jonpry | i dunno maybe it is right |
| 03:20.44 | jonpry | you mean wake, like from collapse just to read, or wake like turn panel on? |
| 03:20.50 | jonpry | and whole spiel |
| 03:21.44 | WisTilt2 | i change it to read on wake, store, read again 1sec later, store then sleep. first and second values are greatly different by almost 1 volt and current is over 100ma if im reading these right |
| 03:22.29 | WisTilt2 | reading 4800mv on wake, 3900 1 sec later for example |
| 03:22.54 | jonpry | 4800 seems a bit impossible |
| 03:23.01 | jonpry | should blow up the battery |
| 03:23.17 | WisTilt2 | 4800 is way off since 4150 is max i think yeah. adc must need to settle before reading |
| 03:25.55 | WisTilt2 | im not turning panel on, just have 5min interrupt trigger to hit this routine. |
| 03:27.10 | jonpry | how can adc need to settle? |
| 03:27.27 | jonpry | don't they usually say settle 1/bandwidth? |
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| 03:30.09 | WisTilt2 | beats me but consistently im seeing far different values after 1sec. i have it reading on wake followed by reads/store at 1sec intervals 5 times now, then sleep again. all 5 1sec values looks to be the same within 1mv |
| 03:30.33 | WisTilt2 | first value on wake is way off |
| 03:31.03 | jonpry | how will that work if phone is sleeping? |
| 03:31.17 | jonpry | can't stay away for 2 seconds to sleep for 3? |
| 03:33.23 | WisTilt2 | dont follow what you're asking. im waking it up every 5mins and reading for 5secs. |
| 03:33.51 | jonpry | nm |
| 03:34.09 | jonpry | too much rum |
| 03:34.29 | WisTilt2 | yeah too much wine here but i think better this way:) |
| 03:34.35 | jonpry | but still, should be able to wake for 1ms :p |
| 03:35.43 | WisTilt2 | yeah, or whatever time it takes to do the read. im just doing this 5sec thing to see whats happening with the values. looks like we have to wait a specific amount of time before reading to get correct value though |
| 03:36.27 | WisTilt2 | let me try 1ms delay then read and see if values are closer to what they should be |
| 03:36.45 | jonpry | maybe its time after the dex |
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| 03:36.54 | jonpry | like a9 is busy |
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| 03:43.46 | manekineko_ | what file contains the battery state of charge estimation algorithm? I was kind of curious to take a look at it |
| 03:45.17 | WisTilt2 | you talking the kernel side? |
| 03:45.21 | manekineko_ | yeah |
| 03:45.27 | WisTilt2 | htc_battery_smem.c |
| 03:45.35 | manekineko_ | thanks |
| 03:46.12 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: 1ms same thing, 10ms values at wake are correct so there is some delay needed it looks like. |
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| 04:16.28 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yo |
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| 04:29.19 | arrrghhh | ping WisTilt2 ? |
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| 04:30.05 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: bb shortly, unloading wifes fully packed car |
| 04:30.47 | jonpry | packed with spoils of war? |
| 04:34.15 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 04:34.46 | WisTilt2 | good lord. "im going to pick a few things up at costco" ended up being $900+ and you'd think we were having the whole family over for a week! |
| 04:35.58 | WisTilt2 | it is daytona 500 sunday so she had to load up for the nascar kickoff |
| 04:39.04 | arrrghhh | i'll bb as well... |
| 04:39.22 | WisTilt2 | k, ill be here for a couple more hours or so |
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| 05:08.01 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'm back |
| 05:08.39 | WisTilt2 | im here, whats the good word |
| 05:08.57 | arrrghhh | well i summed it up before i left |
| 05:09.06 | arrrghhh | i've gotten a few odd wakes where the panel doesn't come up at all |
| 05:09.18 | arrrghhh | but i can "unlock" it, i get the haptic feedback from swiping |
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| 05:09.33 | pupnik | what are you using, angstrom? |
| 05:09.36 | arrrghhh | but nothing on the screen, just bl |
| 05:09.53 | WisTilt2 | does it ever come up or you have to reboot? |
| 05:10.00 | arrrghhh | rhod100 reports were significantly better |
| 05:10.02 | arrrghhh | it comes up |
| 05:10.08 | arrrghhh | just let it sit for a little bit |
| 05:10.23 | arrrghhh | i've found it doesn't even necessarily have to go back to a green LED. |
| 05:11.41 | WisTilt2 | improvement with this latest kernel over the previous though? |
| 05:12.01 | arrrghhh | yea it seems to wake more consistently |
| 05:12.05 | arrrghhh | and much faster |
| 05:12.23 | arrrghhh | but the touch-to-wake doesn't seem to work anymore oddly |
| 05:13.50 | arrrghhh | pupnik, sorry was that directed at me? RHOD. |
| 05:14.11 | WisTilt2 | interesting enough on my 300 and 2 others that are running this kernel at my office not one time have we seen the non-wake. only problem im seeing lately is losing phone service but data still works. |
| 05:14.15 | pupnik | ty arrrghhh |
| 05:14.48 | pupnik | i'm looking for alternatives to nokia for linux + handheld now |
| 05:14.51 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, odd. |
| 05:15.06 | arrrghhh | pupnik, hd2 seems good if you don't mind the lack of a kbd. |
| 05:16.12 | pupnik | nice large screen |
| 05:16.29 | arrrghhh | i <3 the design of the rhod, but somethings are very retarded about it. like no proc, ram or camera upgrade whatsoever over it's predecessor. if anything they downgraded the cam because rhod has no flash. |
| 05:16.57 | arrrghhh | keyboard is fantastic, and i love the tilt screen. they really left the internals out to pasture |
| 05:18.34 | arrrghhh | anyhoo WisTilt2 acl suggested we pull the .35 fb commit to see if the problem goes away. |
| 05:18.44 | arrrghhh | not sure what other implications that has tho |
| 05:19.45 | WisTilt2 | thats an interesting thought. wouldnt be that difficult to do that. |
| 05:20.06 | arrrghhh | cool! |
| 05:20.10 | WisTilt2 | is that when this non wake problem started we think? |
| 05:20.26 | arrrghhh | i think that's when the touch-to-wake issue started, yes. |
| 05:20.33 | WisTilt2 | im pretty sure fb is where the timing problem is |
| 05:20.36 | toastcfh | whats the issues? |
| 05:20.50 | arrrghhh | sometimes you have to touch the screen to wake it toastcfh |
| 05:20.59 | toastcfh | ahhh |
| 05:21.01 | arrrghhh | basically the backlight comes on and it goes from sleep to wake |
| 05:21.38 | arrrghhh | but the panel doesn't actually come up. WisTilt2 tweaked some of the timing on the panel waking, but the framebuffer (we think) is causing issues sometimes when the phone is waking |
| 05:23.32 | toastcfh | yeah i had that issue on the evo in .35 once... im not sure what fixed it. i rebased and the base i went to didnt have the issue. like on the evo u could power the display on and the backlight would come on. but the screen would never unblank. on the evo though either touching it or holding the hittinh the power button again would wake it. not sure if its the same |
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| 05:24.00 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 05:24.05 | arrrghhh | sounds strikingly similar |
| 05:24.39 | toastcfh | could be video/msm borked somehow. but im not sure what winmo is using. i assume video/msm |
| 05:24.46 | arrrghhh | dunno |
| 05:24.56 | arrrghhh | we are running the .35 framebuffer |
| 05:24.57 | arrrghhh | on .27 |
| 05:24.58 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 05:25.03 | toastcfh | ahhh |
| 05:25.11 | toastcfh | why not just go up |
| 05:25.15 | arrrghhh | we're workin on it |
| 05:25.21 | arrrghhh | cotulla is working on .32 |
| 05:25.31 | arrrghhh | and majority of the other devs are working on .35 |
| 05:26.11 | toastcfh | u guys need to make it easier to move around it sounds |
| 05:26.31 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 05:26.36 | arrrghhh | it seems like they're trying to do that with .35 |
| 05:26.42 | toastcfh | sweet |
| 05:26.45 | arrrghhh | .27 is kinda a cluster from what i gather |
| 05:26.52 | toastcfh | it is |
| 05:26.58 | toastcfh | its a odd ball |
| 05:28.02 | toastcfh | but... moving up is a really good idea. the kernels are much faster and stable after .34 |
| 05:28.20 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 05:28.26 | arrrghhh | i'm looking forward to .35 |
| 05:28.35 | toastcfh | what device? |
| 05:28.39 | arrrghhh | RHOD |
| 05:28.44 | toastcfh | ahh |
| 05:28.52 | toastcfh | i had a diam500 |
| 05:28.56 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 05:28.57 | toastcfh | >_> |
| 05:29.02 | toastcfh | POS |
| 05:29.05 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 05:29.33 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, have you noticed slow 3G? |
| 05:29.38 | toastcfh | so what video drivers are u guys using |
| 05:29.49 | arrrghhh | this is really odd. someone told me their download speed on 3g was way slower than their upload. |
| 05:30.00 | toastcfh | heh |
| 05:30.02 | arrrghhh | and i confirmed it today.. literally got 80k down and almost 700k up. |
| 05:30.08 | toastcfh | stuck on 1x? |
| 05:30.14 | arrrghhh | opengles1.0 i think. |
| 05:30.17 | arrrghhh | maybe 1.1 |
| 05:30.20 | arrrghhh | it says 3g |
| 05:30.25 | arrrghhh | and the upload makes me think it's 3g lol |
| 05:30.34 | toastcfh | heh right |
| 05:30.39 | arrrghhh | the theory is build.prop settings. i guess it's time to paly |
| 05:30.44 | arrrghhh | s/paly/play/ |
| 05:30.46 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh:yeah actually i have noticed it being much slower lately. thought it was just our local cell tower having problems |
| 05:30.49 | toastcfh | gsm? |
| 05:30.55 | arrrghhh | toastcfh, all |
| 05:30.59 | manekineko_ | I'm not so sure about whether those dl speeds are a real issue |
| 05:30.59 | toastcfh | ahh |
| 05:30.59 | arrrghhh | i'm CDMA |
| 05:31.04 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2 is GSM |
| 05:31.06 | manekineko_ | I ran 10 trials or so |
| 05:31.17 | manekineko_ | saw speeds from the speedtest.net app that werer all over the map |
| 05:31.27 | arrrghhh | manekineko_, but why is it so disproportionate? |
| 05:31.29 | manekineko_ | top one was 1500 or so, bottom one was 80 |
| 05:31.33 | arrrghhh | download? |
| 05:31.33 | manekineko_ | on the dl |
| 05:31.36 | arrrghhh | i ran 10 tests |
| 05:31.40 | arrrghhh | all were less than 200k down |
| 05:31.46 | toastcfh | >_< |
| 05:31.50 | arrrghhh | and avg was less than 100 i'd say... |
| 05:31.54 | toastcfh | ;x |
| 05:31.57 | arrrghhh | and upload was always above 400 i'd say... |
| 05:32.00 | manekineko_ | hmm odd |
| 05:32.05 | manekineko_ | I was on FRX04 when I got those numbers |
| 05:32.09 | arrrghhh | i had to change the site |
| 05:32.16 | arrrghhh | it was putting me somewhere in texas |
| 05:32.23 | manekineko_ | I had been planning on looking into this issue, but decided not to after seeing I was getting such eratic numbers |
| 05:32.24 | arrrghhh | and said denver was like 1,400 miles away. |
| 05:32.33 | manekineko_ | didn't know how I could conclusively determine if anything improved |
| 05:32.38 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 05:32.56 | arrrghhh | just saw someone whining about it and saying it was better on those lovely froyoX builds |
| 05:33.11 | arrrghhh | i don't like thinking that something is genuinely better in his build. |
| 05:33.14 | manekineko_ | well, easy way to test that, which I had been planning on doing |
| 05:33.23 | manekineko_ | just mount his build.prop wholesale |
| 05:33.26 | manekineko_ | see if the numbers are better |
| 05:33.28 | manekineko_ | on FRX04 |
| 05:33.32 | arrrghhh | i found a ton of settings |
| 05:33.38 | arrrghhh | i don't want his clusterfuck build.prop |
| 05:33.41 | manekineko_ | that's how I found the checkjni thing |
| 05:33.44 | arrrghhh | i'm doing this scientifically. |
| 05:33.53 | manekineko_ | mounted the whole build.prop, and then removed half the changes each time until I narrowed it down |
| 05:33.58 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:33.59 | stinebd | what settings? ro.ril.*? |
| 05:34.03 | arrrghhh | i found a giant list |
| 05:34.08 | arrrghhh | stinebd, there's a ton |
| 05:34.13 | arrrghhh | some seem questionable |
| 05:34.17 | stinebd | it's snake oil |
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| 05:34.18 | arrrghhh | some seem like they might actually do something. |
| 05:34.20 | stinebd | stop wasting your time |
| 05:34.26 | manekineko_ | lol |
| 05:34.34 | arrrghhh | stinebd, why am i getting such odd results on speed test? |
| 05:35.00 | stinebd | because you're on cdma |
| 05:35.03 | stinebd | use a real network |
| 05:35.07 | arrrghhh | my u/l is consistently and sometimes dramatically... fuck you :P |
| 05:35.17 | WisTilt2 | i will say that when i tried froyox when i first heard about it i did notice data was much much faster. dont know what could be changed for that to happen but it was like day and night quicker. |
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| 05:35.25 | manekineko_ | hah, I'm on CDMA as well, and I got some good numbers |
| 05:35.37 | arrrghhh | stinebd just has an undying hatred for cdma |
| 05:35.47 | arrrghhh | which is ironic, as he's getting a CDMA RHOD. |
| 05:35.59 | stinebd | it has a sim slot |
| 05:36.04 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 05:36.13 | arrrghhh | lol 161 down |
| 05:36.19 | arrrghhh | 723 up |
| 05:36.20 | arrrghhh | wtf |
| 05:36.34 | arrrghhh | i dun care if you say it's snake oil i'm going thru some of these |
| 05:36.41 | arrrghhh | see if there's any difference |
| 05:36.41 | stinebd | fine |
| 05:36.47 | stinebd | but our ril doesn't honor any build.prop settings |
| 05:36.47 | arrrghhh | can i change the build.prop on the fly? |
| 05:36.52 | arrrghhh | wtf? |
| 05:36.58 | stinebd | that's for htc's ril |
| 05:37.03 | arrrghhh | damnit. |
| 05:37.10 | stinebd | as i said. snake oil. |
| 05:37.10 | manekineko_ | wow, how's that for a 6th Sense twist haha |
| 05:37.12 | arrrghhh | i think there's some other non-RIL settings. |
| 05:37.13 | arrrghhh | not sure |
| 05:37.15 | manekineko_ | you've been saving that knowledge |
| 05:37.16 | manekineko_ | haha |
| 05:37.33 | arrrghhh | you will not defeat me! |
| 05:37.37 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 05:37.50 | stinebd | so you're saying tiad is right? |
| 05:37.59 | arrrghhh | no |
| 05:38.06 | arrrghhh | just that he stumbled on a good setting |
| 05:38.11 | arrrghhh | that was ctrl-c'd |
| 05:38.14 | arrrghhh | along with 15 bad ones |
| 05:38.33 | arrrghhh | hey he's gotta get lucky once or twice with the hundreds of settings he enables. |
| 05:38.42 | manekineko_ | he got lucky on that checkjni one |
| 05:38.47 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 05:38.55 | arrrghhh | i'm not saying he knows what he's doing |
| 05:39.25 | manekineko_ | also, he might be unwittingly standing on the shoulders of giants |
| 05:39.37 | manekineko_ | seeing as he's not starting from zero on his own |
| 05:39.37 | arrrghhh | ezterry? |
| 05:39.45 | manekineko_ | whoever he is getting his stuff from |
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| 05:39.51 | arrrghhh | wb bzo |
| 05:39.51 | stinebd | huawei |
| 05:39.56 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 05:40.03 | bzo | howdy |
| 05:40.27 | arrrghhh | so is there any way to change build.prop settings on the fly? |
| 05:40.32 | bzo | damn still haven't been able to build android yet |
| 05:40.33 | arrrghhh | would make this infinitely easier. |
| 05:40.36 | stinebd | setprop |
| 05:41.20 | stinebd | right now you're being worse than those g1 kids that think ro.sf.debug=1 does something for them :P |
| 05:41.28 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:41.39 | arrrghhh | cuz i didn't know about setprop :P |
| 05:41.51 | manekineko_ | I messaged tiad about this earlier actually, when I was considering investigating it |
| 05:42.02 | manekineko_ | he attributes to speed improvements not only to the build.prop settings |
| 05:42.06 | manekineko_ | but also to a few drivers he changed |
| 05:42.45 | stinebd | which says just enough to not say anything |
| 05:42.52 | manekineko_ | oh he sent me the files too |
| 05:43.16 | manekineko_ | let's see, just downloaded them |
| 05:44.00 | stinebd | maybe he's using htc's ril and the wrapper |
| 05:44.20 | stinebd | but then cdma would probably not work at all |
| 05:45.39 | manekineko_ | in the modules directory are wlan.ko, ipv6.ko, ramzswap.ko, xvmalloc.ko, lzo_decompress.ko, and lzo_compress.ko |
| 05:46.00 | stinebd | uh |
| 05:47.02 | arrrghhh | here goes something |
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| 05:47.32 | arrrghhh | woah |
| 05:47.37 | manekineko_ | oh cool, he's enabling ipt_reject in his froyo.user.conf, that's nice |
| 05:47.38 | arrrghhh | that one definitely made the menu faster. |
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| 05:47.57 | arrrghhh | data.... as shitty as ever. |
| 05:48.22 | arrrghhh | manekineko_, do you have one of his ridiculous build.prop's handy? |
| 05:49.00 | manekineko_ | http://pastebin.com/PL0pwm2X |
| 05:49.04 | manekineko_ | from FroyoX |
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| 05:50.56 | stinebd | lol |
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| 05:55.53 | stinebd | so which one do you think made the menu faster? and which menu? |
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| 06:01.27 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: 3ms delay is getting me consistent values each wake. im going to let it run overnight so i'll send you the data tomorrow to take a look at. only storing timestamps,voltage,current currently and 5mins intervals. |
| 06:01.51 | jonpry | sounds like progress |
| 06:03.05 | WisTilt2 | these values will be in sleep the whole time so should get us a good baseline |
| 06:04.58 | stinebd | you know you're tempted to pick it up and play with it |
| 06:05.17 | stinebd | phones aren't meant to sit there and discharge doing nothing |
| 06:05.39 | WisTilt2 | not while im watching the back of my eye lids |
| 06:05.48 | manekineko_ | hey stine, obviously this is unimportant, but I was curious, doesn't screen off on Gingerbread normally have some funky animation or something? |
| 06:05.51 | stinebd | sleepcalling |
| 06:05.55 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 06:05.58 | stinebd | manekineko_: not for us |
| 06:06.11 | manekineko_ | took it out on purpose? |
| 06:06.28 | stinebd | yeah it doesn't work |
| 06:07.26 | stinebd | it was super slow (roughly 3 seconds to finish the animation) and it resulted in a black screen for the remainder of surfaceflinger's life |
| 06:07.45 | stinebd | i haven't investigated whether it's possible to fix yet and might never look into it |
| 06:07.55 | manekineko_ | hah our devices are too slow to play the power off animation... |
| 06:09.20 | stinebd | i think arrrghhh buildpropped himself to sleep |
| 06:09.31 | manekineko_ | maybe he can't handle the speed |
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| 15:07.27 | Daevoq | i'm confused.. |
| 15:08.12 | Daevoq | i know there isn't right place.. but on -chat channel there is no one |
| 15:08.41 | Daevoq | *this |
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| 17:37.46 | cnr | hi all |
| 17:37.52 | cnr | anyone here ? |
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| 17:52.32 | cnr | hi all |
| 17:53.09 | arrrghhh | you're back |
| 17:53.11 | arrrghhh | i missed you cnr |
| 17:53.23 | cnr | i have htc touch pro raph |
| 17:53.40 | cnr | sorry but my ADSL i down |
| 17:53.54 | cnr | i read the link |
| 17:54.22 | arrrghhh | cnr, this isn't a support channel. |
| 17:54.31 | cnr | http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Installing_Android |
| 17:54.37 | cnr | aa ok |
| 17:54.42 | arrrghhh | come over to #xdandroid |
| 17:55.00 | cnr | ok sorry |
| 17:55.13 | arrrghhh | np |
| 17:55.13 | cnr | i go to other channel |
| 17:55.17 | cnr | thx for help |
| 17:55.19 | cnr | bye |
| 17:55.24 | cnr | see you lather |
| 17:55.53 | Samsunguy | Lather? |
| 17:56.00 | Samsunguy | :D |
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| 17:56.30 | Samsunguy | Meh it just sticks out |
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| 19:15.09 | gauner1986 | hey Cotulla |
| 19:15.34 | Cotulla | hey |
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| 20:16.44 | kholk | re all :) |
| 20:17.31 | kholk | is there anyone that can help with ubuntu/magldr? |
| 20:17.35 | kholk | (HD2) |
| 20:18.01 | Cotulla | ? |
| 20:18.23 | kholk | I can't get linit to be executed at boot time |
| 20:18.33 | kholk | tried anything, but nothing to do... |
| 20:18.46 | Cotulla | hm ask dcordes |
| 20:18.46 | kholk | and... now that I see you Cotulla.. :) |
| 20:18.53 | kholk | got a question for you ) |
| 20:19.12 | kholk | listen, I've installed MAGLDR (the first version released) on my broken HD2 |
| 20:19.14 | gauner1986 | kholk: thought your leo was broken? ;) |
| 20:19.24 | kholk | gauner1986: got another HD2 ^^ |
| 20:19.32 | Cotulla | haha |
| 20:19.37 | kholk | now I want to update it. |
| 20:19.48 | kholk | the problem is that I can't access SPL because of broken vol buttons |
| 20:19.59 | kholk | any idea? |
| 20:20.07 | kholk | the only broken vol button is voldown |
| 20:20.15 | Cotulla | hmmm |
| 20:20.18 | kholk | volup works. :P |
| 20:20.23 | Cotulla | did u try to fix it? |
| 20:20.40 | kholk | Cotulla, well, I can buy new vol buttons |
| 20:20.48 | kholk | but it's useless because the screen is almost broken |
| 20:20.54 | kholk | all yellow |
| 20:21.00 | Cotulla | now is it broken? |
| 20:21.05 | kholk | so it's useless to trash money :P |
| 20:21.07 | Cotulla | *how |
| 20:21.14 | kholk | it's an hardware fault |
| 20:21.21 | Cotulla | maybe u can connect contacts|? |
| 20:21.26 | kholk | mainboard needs to be replaced for restoring correct functionality of the screen |
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| 20:21.52 | kholk | I've opened it and checked, it's all okay... HTC says that it's an HW fault, but it doesn't matter to me |
| 20:22.01 | kholk | my WP7 HD2 (low volume on calls) is okay :P |
| 20:22.05 | kholk | and I can live with my Vision.. |
| 20:22.06 | kholk | anyway |
| 20:22.13 | kholk | connect contacts..? |
| 20:22.17 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 20:22.23 | kholk | the volume keys ones? |
| 20:22.29 | Cotulla | yes |
| 20:22.31 | kholk | smart. |
| 20:22.34 | kholk | lol :D |
| 20:22.35 | Cotulla | make it work somehow... |
| 20:22.42 | kholk | listen another thing... |
| 20:22.52 | kholk | you know, enterbootloader.exe works pretty well on WM6.5 |
| 20:23.03 | kholk | is it known what it's doing? |
| 20:23.19 | kholk | (recreating it for Linux would be smart) |
| 20:23.24 | Cotulla | the problem that we, hobby developers, can't support broken & prototype hardware.. not much time we have |
| 20:23.27 | kholk | (as I'm not the only one with this problem) |
| 20:23.34 | kholk | Cotulla, I know |
| 20:23.42 | kholk | I appreciate your work, really :) |
| 20:23.51 | kholk | infact my good new HD2 is using WP7 :P |
| 20:24.14 | kholk | unfortunately with too much low call volume but I'll find a solution myself |
| 20:24.19 | kholk | and post it.. |
| 20:24.47 | kholk | ...but anyway, if you've got any idea on what enterbootloader.exe is doing |
| 20:24.59 | kholk | I can create something myself. |
| 20:25.00 | Cotulla | kholkis it known what it's doing?. yeah it write mark to nand. but I honestly won't want ever try to do this under linux... too dange |
| 20:25.27 | kholk | mh. |
| 20:25.45 | kholk | okay if it's too much dangerous.... I won't even try to do it :P |
| 20:26.33 | kholk | Cotulla, another question if I can. |
| 20:26.45 | kholk | I remember a video that you've posted |
| 20:26.55 | kholk | with an HD2 booting WinCE.. |
| 20:27.06 | kholk | does it need anything particular or simply the CE sys files? |
| 20:27.18 | kholk | I mean, is XIP and drivers the same? |
| 20:27.43 | kholk | (my idea: take WP7 kernel & using it for Compact7) |
| 20:29.14 | kholk | (if you can't say anything I understand :P) |
| 20:29.37 | Samsunguy | Heh |
| 20:29.56 | Cotulla | it's linux channel ;) |
| 20:29.58 | kholk | okay, I'll try myself xD |
| 20:30.11 | kholk | Cotulla, I know, just wanted to ask to you 'cause I found you here :P |
| 20:30.40 | kholk | anyway. |
| 20:30.46 | kholk | returning to linux |
| 20:30.48 | Samsunguy | Oh, the irony |
| 20:31.02 | kholk | if I get an executable and put it in an initrd |
| 20:31.18 | kholk | I should be able to execute it easily, right? |
| 20:31.30 | Cotulla | ya |
| 20:32.08 | kholk | so, I take this executable, unpack initrd, put it in /bin/, modify /init .. and it should work |
| 20:32.34 | kholk | but it's not my case strangely. |
| 20:32.46 | kholk | it can't find it |
| 20:32.52 | kholk | O.o |
| 20:32.57 | Cotulla | wrong location wrong right |
| 20:32.59 | Cotulla | and lalalala |
| 20:33.03 | Cotulla | wrong arch type |
| 20:33.13 | kholk | no, no.. the location is right |
| 20:33.17 | kholk | and the arch type is right. |
| 20:33.20 | Cotulla | u sure? ;) |
| 20:33.24 | kholk | linit does some modem initialization |
| 20:33.42 | kholk | when booting ubuntu with magldr |
| 20:33.45 | kholk | the modem isn't initialized |
| 20:33.55 | kholk | linit initializes it so it won't reboot automatically |
| 20:34.31 | kholk | in my init script I've added the string to execute it... tried exactly: |
| 20:34.34 | kholk | ./bin/linit |
| 20:34.37 | kholk | sh /bin/linit |
| 20:34.48 | kholk | **** /bin/linit |
| 20:34.54 | kholk | (without asterisks.. lol) |
| 20:35.04 | kholk | or simply .... linit |
| 20:35.07 | kholk | but nothing O.o |
| 20:35.21 | kholk | it's the one posted by dan1j3l |
| 20:36.24 | Cotulla | try to put other |
| 20:36.26 | Cotulla | file |
| 20:36.29 | Cotulla | which 100% runs |
| 20:36.32 | kholk | tried |
| 20:36.34 | kholk | won't run |
| 20:37.00 | gauner1986 | and what's on dmesg? |
| 20:37.08 | kholk | file not found. |
| 20:37.27 | kholk | is there any method for sending commands to the modem without using a precompiled binary? |
| 20:37.39 | gauner1986 | echo to /dev/smd1 |
| 20:37.42 | kholk | like sending anything to /dev/(what) |
| 20:37.45 | kholk | smd1? |
| 20:37.47 | kholk | okay |
| 20:37.47 | kholk | :) |
| 20:37.49 | gauner1986 | should be |
| 20:37.50 | gauner1986 | try it |
| 20:37.51 | gauner1986 | ;) |
| 20:37.56 | kholk | good one gauner |
| 20:38.28 | kholk | tryin' right now :D |
| 20:39.45 | kholk | I love ramdisks °-° |
| 20:39.55 | kholk | (it was an OT :P) |
| 20:40.29 | dan1j3l | kholk: |
| 20:40.30 | dan1j3l | echo AT@BRIC=0 > /dev/smd0 |
| 20:40.30 | dan1j3l | sleep 0.3 |
| 20:40.30 | dan1j3l | echo AT+CFUN=0 > /dev/smd0 |
| 20:40.30 | dan1j3l | sleep 0.3 |
| 20:40.30 | dan1j3l | echo AT+COPS=2 > /dev/smd0 |
| 20:40.49 | Cotulla | BAD CODE DETECTED CALLBACK CALLED! :D |
| 20:40.49 | kholk | dan1j3l, I know how to do it XD |
| 20:41.01 | kholk | anyway thanks |
| 20:41.07 | Cotulla | sleep 0.3 <==== WTF |
| 20:41.17 | kholk | and I would use sleep 1 |
| 20:41.18 | Samsunguy | :D |
| 20:41.23 | Cotulla | 1 is better |
| 20:41.26 | Cotulla | but anyway |
| 20:41.29 | Cotulla | u need parse response |
| 20:41.40 | kholk | why? |
| 20:41.57 | Cotulla | because it's proper error handling |
| 20:41.58 | kholk | we know that this initialization just works.. we aren't debugging :P |
| 20:41.59 | dan1j3l | that's why i did it in compiled bin |
| 20:42.14 | dan1j3l | the PROPER way :) |
| 20:42.26 | Cotulla | right way in the most cases |
| 20:42.32 | kholk | dan1j3l, how did you manage it to work? I can't get it to work.. |
| 20:42.33 | kholk | anyway |
| 20:42.44 | kholk | without making me try, it's useless to put it in initrd, right? |
| 20:42.55 | kholk | in initrd there isn't any dev if I'm not wrong |
| 20:43.03 | kholk | *when in initrd |
| 20:43.04 | kholk | :P |
| 20:43.15 | dan1j3l | kholk: i put to execute in local.rc |
| 20:43.35 | kholk | in the ext2 image? |
| 20:43.46 | dan1j3l | yes |
| 20:43.56 | kholk | okay, trying :P |
| 20:44.05 | kholk | but wait. |
| 20:44.09 | kholk | gauner said that it's smd1 |
| 20:44.11 | dan1j3l | redirect output to log file and see what's happening |
| 20:44.22 | kholk | you've said smd0 |
| 20:44.26 | kholk | what's the right device? XD |
| 20:44.51 | dan1j3l | smd0 |
| 20:45.21 | kholk | okay :) |
| 20:45.51 | kholk | ./etc/rc.local? |
| 20:46.09 | dan1j3l | yes |
| 20:46.18 | dan1j3l | before return 0 |
| 20:46.19 | kholk | just 'cause I've tried to execute linit here without results :P |
| 20:46.26 | kholk | before exit 0 you mean? :P |
| 20:46.29 | dan1j3l | yes |
| 20:47.04 | dan1j3l | try to linit > /linit.log |
| 20:47.13 | dan1j3l | and see log after booting |
| 20:48.04 | kholk | I'm trying echoing the commands |
| 20:53.28 | jonpry | Cotulla: i implemented that stupid battery algorithm :p |
| 20:57.29 | kholk | lovin' the USB mass storage function of magldr <3 |
| 21:01.37 | Cotulla | :) |
| 21:01.46 | Cotulla | I will use from supersonic algo |
| 21:01.52 | Cotulla | there also 1500 |
| 21:02.00 | Cotulla | should works sumular |
| 21:02.35 | kholk | well, I've transferred 3GB at 8MB/s lol |
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| 21:08.51 | kholk | damn |
| 21:08.54 | kholk | reboot. |
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| 21:47.36 | kholk | dan1j3l1, are you here? |
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| 21:48.06 | dan1j3l1 | barely... :) |
| 21:48.29 | dan1j3l1 | almost in dream-land... : |
| 21:48.39 | dan1j3l1 | talk... |
| 21:48.50 | kholk | listen |
| 21:48.58 | kholk | are you sure that rc.local gets executed? |
| 21:49.06 | dan1j3l1 | yeah |
| 21:49.14 | kholk | I've put /bin/linit > /linit.log in rc.local before exit 0 |
| 21:49.25 | kholk | but /linit.log won't be created O.o |
| 21:50.01 | dan1j3l1 | test excution on rc.local by echo xxx > /xxx.log |
| 21:50.11 | dan1j3l1 | of* |
| 21:50.33 | kholk | already tried |
| 21:50.42 | dan1j3l1 | and ? |
| 21:50.49 | kholk | nothing. |
| 21:50.51 | kholk | it won't be created |
| 21:51.00 | dan1j3l1 | hmmm... |
| 21:51.24 | dan1j3l1 | put a simple script in init.d then |
| 21:52.04 | kholk | isn't it best to create scripts in rc*.d/? |
| 21:52.19 | kholk | the init.d scripts should be copied in rc*.d with an rc update |
| 21:52.33 | kholk | what's the default runlevel? |
| 21:53.51 | dan1j3l1 | i think rc5 |
| 21:56.36 | dan1j3l1 | hmm... it was bad idea to start copying 50Gb over wireless... :( |
| 21:57.35 | kholk | surely. |
| 22:01.12 | dan1j3l1 | hehe... MAGLDR became MAGLAR in some posts... x) pissing my pants... :D |
| 22:01.35 | Cotulla | ? |
| 22:01.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | surely some OCR software is involved |
| 22:02.39 | dan1j3l1 | cotulla: just read thread title http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913597 :) |
| 22:03.06 | Cotulla | heh |
| 22:03.09 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:03.20 | Cotulla | what is MAGLAR? |
| 22:03.48 | dan1j3l1 | don't know.. i thought u KNOW THAT !!! :D |
| 22:04.52 | dan1j3l1 | maybe u created new version of magldr you're not aware of... :p |
| 22:05.02 | dan1j3l1 | home hybrid |
| 22:05.05 | dan1j3l1 | some* |
| 22:07.37 | kholk | LOL MAGLAR! |
| 22:08.19 | Cotulla | hm |
| 22:08.32 | kholk | I really don't know what's the sense of creating DesireZ based ROMs |
| 22:08.33 | Cotulla | MAGLAR MAGRLOR |
| 22:08.40 | kholk | for an HTC HD2. |
| 22:08.55 | Cotulla | MAGIC LORRY |
| 22:09.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | partyvan? |
| 22:09.30 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 22:09.33 | Cotulla | Alex, work |
| 22:09.35 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 22:09.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: doing |
| 22:09.46 | Cotulla | okay\ |
| 22:09.49 | Cotulla | don't listen us |
| 22:09.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah you are trolls |
| 22:10.03 | kholk | I should clean my SDCard just a little. |
| 22:10.07 | kholk | it's an orgy of useless stuff. |
| 22:10.09 | kholk | lol |
| 22:10.12 | Cotulla | but we working nice |
| 22:10.15 | Cotulla | bcz u listen us |
| 22:10.26 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: for microp,have you considered doing a mfd driver , |
| 22:10.27 | phh | ? |
| 22:10.43 | Cotulla | who cares? it must work nice at first |
| 22:10.44 | Cotulla | :P |
| 22:11.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: not yet. maybe later. need to figure out some stuff with smd and qdsp on 35 first and then fix microp-ksc. but yeah, i though of that. primarily because i'd like to be able to use the single master driver for all microps |
| 22:12.21 | kholk | anyone knows when can I find dcordes? |
| 22:13.06 | Cotulla | few weeks he missing |
| 22:13.23 | Cotulla | and we lost his sermons about linux :( |
| 22:13.53 | kholk | damn :) |
| 22:13.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: your english is too good today. what has happened? |
| 22:14.08 | Cotulla | my left hand |
| 22:15.16 | kholk | anyone that has got a working version of ubuntu for HTC HD2 (for magldr) can upload it? |
| 22:15.16 | kholk | :P |
| 22:15.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: if you need sermons, i am always here.. although you know i can't stand your speeches about CE |
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| 22:16.13 | Cotulla | The most times I am listening sermons about linux, not about CE :) |
| 22:16.50 | Cotulla | okay |
| 22:16.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: yes. the sermons about CE come from you.. but well, i like CE, but desktop windows, including NT, sucks balls. okay. no more on that topic today |
| 22:17.13 | fish1209 | heh |
| 22:17.19 | Cotulla | lets discuss, why we can't map the 24 megabytes before kernel start as usable system RAM? |
| 22:17.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | and why can't we? |
| 22:17.54 | Cotulla | it's not working |
| 22:18.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | is it occupied by arm9? |
| 22:18.10 | Cotulla | as well all my attempts to map memory before kernel as bank fails |
| 22:18.12 | Cotulla | no |
| 22:18.13 | Cotulla | it's free |
| 22:18.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, then just load kernel there |
| 22:18.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | so that all memory is after kernel |
| 22:18.30 | Cotulla | it's not solution |
| 22:18.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | why |
| 22:18.46 | Cotulla | this 24 Mb can be not available on all machines for example |
| 22:18.52 | Cotulla | why I can't define bank before kernel? |
| 22:19.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | i dunno. it was not me who had written that code |
| 22:19.23 | Cotulla | okay :) |
| 22:19.27 | Cotulla | 1:0 |
| 22:19.33 | Cotulla | :D |
| 22:20.18 | Cotulla | but ok code |
| 22:20.25 | Cotulla | I will play CrimsOnLand now |
| 22:20.27 | fakker | privet privet |
| 22:20.28 | Cotulla | :P |
| 22:20.31 | Cotulla | hey fakkker |
| 22:20.46 | Cotulla | ur ftp down? |
| 22:20.58 | fakker | my hosting ran out, i have other hosting now |
| 22:21.04 | fakker | thanks to my ex-employers |
| 22:21.31 | fakker | you wish to host something? |
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| 22:39.30 | Cotulla | how is it alex? |
| 22:39.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: it goes... |
| 22:40.05 | Cotulla | haha |
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| 23:02.34 | Curious_ | haven't you fixed i2c yet? |
| 23:02.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol |
| 23:03.25 | Cotulla | yes, Alex? |
| 23:03.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: this guy is funny |
| 23:03.41 | Cotulla | I know |
| 23:03.43 | Cotulla | :D |
| 23:03.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | is he a troll? |
| 23:03.57 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 23:04.03 | Cotulla | cockpoo u remember him? ;) |
| 23:04.13 | Cotulla | but he troll before better than now |
| 23:05.36 | Curious_ | i have a shiny past |
| 23:06.32 | Cotulla | alex, JIT from AD22 running on 7200A normally? |
| 23:06.35 | Cotulla | *Alex |
| 23:07.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i think it works, but caused some instability sometimes (sometimes zygote just crashed and rebooted).. but without it, many apps are too slow, so i'm using it anyway |
| 23:07.53 | Cotulla | hm |
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| 23:23.02 | Curious_ | how to mount sdcard as rw in linux? |
| 23:23.23 | Curious_ | i tried mount -o remount,rw -t fat32 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard |
| 23:23.25 | Curious_ | didn'T work |
| 23:23.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | first off, it's not fat32 |
| 23:23.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | but vfat |
| 23:23.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | secondly, try just unmounting it and mounting |
| 23:23.52 | Curious_ | others are ok? |
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| 23:24.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | dunno. in android even basic utilities like mount are fucked up and don't work exactly like regular ones |
| 23:24.54 | Curious_ | busybox |
| 23:25.00 | Curious_ | should work like basic? |
| 23:25.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | should.. just try with vfat |
| 23:25.18 | Curious_ | Invaild argument |
| 23:25.25 | Curious_ | mount -o remount,rw -t vfat /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/sdcard |
| 23:25.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | then without fs. |
| 23:25.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's already mounted, it knows fs |
| 23:25.48 | Curious_ | same |
| 23:25.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | and without /dev/block/.. |
| 23:26.06 | Curious_ | it tells usage |
| 23:26.22 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 23:26.28 | Curious_ | mount: can't find /sdcard in /proc/mounts |
| 23:26.32 | Cotulla | use busybox? |
| 23:26.42 | Curious_ | same |
| 23:26.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: aha. is it mounted at all? |
| 23:27.04 | Curious_ | it should be |
| 23:27.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard -o rw |
| 23:27.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | *should* is the cause of all fuckups |
| 23:27.36 | Cotulla | I was always interested why non-RUS people also using "aha" |
| 23:27.41 | Curious_ | same |
| 23:27.49 | Curious_ | tells usage |
| 23:27.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: why shouldn't they |
| 23:27.59 | Curious_ | yeah why shouldn't they |
| 23:28.15 | Cotulla | dunno... but sounds strange |
| 23:28.25 | Cotulla | they have "yes" already |
| 23:28.26 | Cotulla | aha |
| 23:28.29 | Cotulla | hahahah aha |
| 23:28.34 | Curious_ | yes != aha |
| 23:28.47 | Curious_ | for me |
| 23:29.12 | Cotulla | what mean "aha" for u, cockpro? |
| 23:29.15 | Cotulla | *means |
| 23:29.25 | Curious_ | it includes being surprised |
| 23:29.30 | Cotulla | ohh |
| 23:29.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | aha, those guys |
| 23:29.35 | Cotulla | yes is just yes? |
| 23:29.41 | Curious_ | yes |
| 23:29.49 | Cotulla | okay thnk u\ |
| 23:29.51 | Curious_ | you don't get surprise with yes! |
| 23:29.56 | Curious_ | now fix i2c |
| 23:29.56 | Curious_ | :D |
| 23:30.14 | Curious_ | i still couldn't get this bastard mounted |
| 23:31.00 | Curious_ | ah |
| 23:31.04 | Curious_ | busybox did it |
| 23:31.05 | Curious_ | finally |
| 23:31.11 | Curious_ | really idiot android |
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| 23:32.22 | dan1j3l1 | i usually replace all symlinks to toolbox with busybox... so i never get surprise... :) |
| 23:32.44 | RaiderX | anyone ever had issues with page-writeback.c when building a kernel? |
| 23:33.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | you had for sure |
| 23:33.10 | dan1j3l1 | :p |
| 23:33.22 | Curious_ | dan1j3l, i hate busybox ls |
| 23:33.32 | Curious_ | why would i get this crappy error -> /PackageManager( 1352): Scanning app dir /system/framework D/PackageManager( 1352): Scanning app dir /system/app I/PackageManager( 1352): /system/app/TelephonyProvider.apk changed; collecting certs I/dalvikvm( 1352): DexOpt: Some deps went away E/dalvikvm( 1352): /system/app/TelephonyProvider.apk odex has stale dependencies E/dalvikvm( 1352): odex source not available -- failing |
| 23:33.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's wrong with busybox ls |
| 23:33.42 | Curious_ | it gives colorful results |
| 23:33.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | is it bad? |
| 23:33.49 | Curious_ | which windows console doesn't show |
| 23:33.57 | Curious_ | so it becomes garbage |
| 23:33.58 | dan1j3l1 | busybox is nice |
| 23:33.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | this is not busybox problem |
| 23:34.00 | RaiderX | that error means the odex is wrong for the framework |
| 23:34.02 | dan1j3l1 | use linux then |
| 23:34.05 | Curious_ | yes |
| 23:34.06 | dan1j3l1 | :) |
| 23:34.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | busybox ls --color=never |
| 23:34.21 | Curious_ | RaiderX what could be the possible way to fix it |
| 23:34.24 | Curious_ | that is painful alex |
| 23:34.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | use alias? |
| 23:34.30 | Curious_ | i hate when i type that |
| 23:34.32 | RaiderX | use deodexed apks |
| 23:34.47 | Curious_ | RaiderX are you sure that will solve |
| 23:34.51 | RaiderX | yea |
| 23:34.54 | Curious_ | i already tried it with different cases |
| 23:34.54 | RaiderX | its an odex issue |
| 23:35.28 | Curious_ | bastard htc |
| 23:35.41 | Curious_ | how can that error happen in an official rom? |
| 23:35.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | official hd2 android rom? |
| 23:36.08 | Curious_ | nope |
| 23:36.11 | Curious_ | incredible s |
| 23:36.33 | dan1j3l1 | then write love-letter to HTC... :) |
| 23:36.39 | Curious_ | can it be normal really? |
| 23:37.11 | Curious_ | i will send them my phone but modify it to be explosive |
| 23:37.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | it can be normal, it tangent.. calculus everywhere O_o |
| 23:37.26 | RaiderX | i got incredible s rom deodexed :P |
| 23:37.28 | Curious_ | eww |
| 23:37.30 | RaiderX | i deodexed it |
| 23:37.47 | Curious_ | RaiderX did you boot without deodexing |
| 23:37.48 | RaiderX | im running incredible s rom on my DHD atm |
| 23:37.48 | Curious_ | ? |
| 23:37.54 | RaiderX | it worked fine without deodexing |
| 23:38.06 | Curious_ | then what is the problem argghhhhh |
| 23:38.24 | RaiderX | well if ur using it on HD2 then youll need to deoxed |
| 23:38.29 | RaiderX | as odex is hardware optimized |
| 23:38.30 | Curious_ | why so? |
| 23:38.34 | Curious_ | really? |
| 23:38.35 | Curious_ | ah |
| 23:38.47 | RaiderX | its an optimized dex |
| 23:38.47 | Curious_ | there is too much "unknowns" |
| 23:38.59 | Curious_ | in every step |
| 23:39.03 | Curious_ | i do something |
| 23:39.09 | Curious_ | but there is uncertainty for me |
| 23:39.25 | dan1j3l1 | too much question marks floating above Curious_ head... |
| 23:39.30 | dan1j3l1 | :) |
| 23:39.48 | Curious_ | that is why it is curious |
| 23:39.53 | Curious_ | but damn |
| 23:40.05 | Curious_ | linux world is really mess |
| 23:40.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | android is even more mess |
| 23:40.18 | Curious_ | yeds |
| 23:40.20 | Curious_ | yes |
| 23:40.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | because you know, java sucks |
| 23:40.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | and dalvik sucks even more |
| 23:40.46 | Curious_ | even though i love android, i will hate it deeply |
| 23:41.02 | RaiderX | i got an annoying kernel compile error |
| 23:41.10 | Curious_ | hope intel makes meego good. |
| 23:41.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | no way |
| 23:41.16 | Curious_ | but i doubt |
| 23:41.17 | RaiderX | meego = abandoned |
| 23:41.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | intel won't make arm |
| 23:41.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | and x86 is a guaranteed fail |
| 23:41.28 | Curious_ | they lose then |
| 23:41.34 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 23:41.41 | dan1j3l1 | meego abandoned by nokia, not intel |
| 23:41.51 | RaiderX | pretty much abandoned the |
| 23:41.52 | Cotulla | nice that I stopped developement before |
| 23:41.52 | RaiderX | then |
| 23:41.59 | Curious_ | hehe |
| 23:42.04 | Curious_ | maybe they followed you |
| 23:42.05 | RaiderX | hi Cotulla :) |
| 23:42.10 | Cotulla | hey |
| 23:42.22 | Cotulla | XediaR |
| 23:42.25 | RaiderX | why does nothing wana work for me |
| 23:42.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | there's no good hackable mobile os :(. wm is dead, wph sucks (at least until they release native sdk), maemo abandoned, meego abandoned, android sucks, ios is anally occupied |
| 23:42.41 | dan1j3l1 | i think they saw you stopped develop and then they abandoned it also... |
| 23:42.46 | dan1j3l1 | :p |
| 23:42.53 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 23:42.55 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 23:43.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think they never started in the first place |
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| 23:43.26 | dan1j3l1 | what about webOS |
| 23:43.27 | Curious_ | i can't stand, gonna say : "if you had gave i2c 1/10 of time that you spent on meego, it would have been fixed by now"!!! |
| 23:43.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: switch to i2c-gpio and see if it works or not |
| 23:43.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | and beware |
| 23:44.00 | Cotulla | WebOS? |
| 23:44.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | i2c works for everyone except trolls |
| 23:44.04 | Cotulla | there also linux? |
| 23:44.14 | dan1j3l1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebOS |
| 23:44.21 | Curious_ | ALex honestly, i don't even know wtf "switching" to i2c-gpio |
| 23:44.27 | Cotulla | Alex, u out of theme |
| 23:44.31 | Cotulla | :P |
| 23:44.42 | Curious_ | it loses by name |
| 23:44.46 | Curious_ | "WEB"os |
| 23:44.52 | Curious_ | sounds irritating |
| 23:44.59 | RaiderX | anyone know what this error is mm/page-writeback.c:820: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault |
| 23:45.05 | Curious_ | ah |
| 23:45.07 | Curious_ | segfault |
| 23:45.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: blackberry rim os? |
| 23:45.17 | dan1j3l1 | RaiderX: what toolchain ? |
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| 23:45.21 | Curious_ | i love that error |
| 23:45.26 | RaiderX | armeabi-4.4.0 |
| 23:45.28 | Curious_ | it simply says "fuck you" <- not trolling |
| 23:45.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | wow |
| 23:45.56 | RaiderX | im using toolchain that come with android-ndk |
| 23:45.59 | Curious_ | arm-2010q1-202-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu |
| 23:46.01 | Cotulla | never saw blackberry |
| 23:46.05 | Cotulla | doubt it good\ |
| 23:46.09 | dan1j3l1 | RaiderX: on what host are u building (kernel ver. gcc) ? |
| 23:46.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | RaiderX: i bet it sucks as everything android |
| 23:46.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: it's QNX |
| 23:46.16 | Curious_ | are you trying to compile android |
| 23:46.22 | RaiderX | ubuntu |
| 23:46.39 | RaiderX | gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) |
| 23:46.43 | Curious_ | meh, it must have smelled ubuntu and throw segfault |
| 23:46.59 | Cotulla | web os maybe not so bad |
| 23:47.27 | Cotulla | we need build team and port it with whores and black3.5jack |
| 23:47.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: closed source and no X11. ow. a no-go for me... too little apps,developers and few devices - no-go for home users |
| 23:47.39 | dan1j3l1 | RaiderX try with arm-2010q1 arm-none-eabi |
| 23:47.45 | Cotulla | Alex |
| 23:47.58 | Cotulla | for it's more intersting then open os |
| 23:48.00 | Cotulla | :P |
| 23:48.02 | Curious_ | alex summerized.. |
| 23:48.15 | Cotulla | bcz on open os like android u fuck only with porting stuffs between different kernels |
| 23:48.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: well. anyway i'm just waiting for dual-core tablets |
| 23:48.29 | Cotulla | :) |
| 23:48.30 | Curious_ | Cotulla, wtf do you do with closed source |
| 23:48.41 | Cotulla | WM65 for example |
| 23:48.41 | Curious_ | port android to closed source? |
| 23:48.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: he faps |
| 23:48.43 | Curious_ | hehe |
| 23:48.57 | Curious_ | probably |
| 23:48.57 | dan1j3l1 | i thought about starting to work on webOS port... |
| 23:49.03 | Cotulla | people update os by years |
| 23:49.09 | RaiderX | got a mirror? im downloading that and got 2 weeks remaining for 20mb |
| 23:49.15 | Cotulla | dan1j3l1, are there any big problems? |
| 23:49.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | wm65? oh dude |
| 23:49.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | they haven't made major updates since like 2006 when wm5 was out |
| 23:49.44 | dan1j3l1 | no i just THOUGHT bout that... |
| 23:49.52 | Curious_ | wm6.5 = bunch of plasters |
| 23:49.55 | dan1j3l1 | beeing too lazy... |
| 23:50.11 | dan1j3l1 | i will start tomorrow... :) |
| 23:50.18 | Curious_ | why waste time with it |
| 23:50.22 | RaiderX | codesourcery is slow |
| 23:51.03 | Curious_ | while cooking android rom, do i need to replace gralloc.xxxx.so ? |
| 23:51.19 | Curious_ | porting from 8255 to 8250 |
| 23:51.26 | dan1j3l1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | you'd better do replace |
| 23:51.36 | Cotulla | Alex, no alex they did major updates |
| 23:51.41 | RaiderX | its got days left! |
| 23:51.50 | Curious_ | RaiderX, i saw years |
| 23:51.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | dan1j3l1: do you mean you can poop a toolchain |
| 23:51.53 | Curious_ | lucky you! |
| 23:51.55 | RaiderX | if it had minutes i wouldnt mind but its eta is 5 days atm |
| 23:52.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: which ones? except the more VM slots for rom in wm65 and the new ui? |
| 23:52.13 | Curious_ | what else lib should be replaced |
| 23:52.15 | Curious_ | generally |
| 23:52.40 | Cotulla | fixing bugs |
| 23:52.43 | Cotulla | improve speed |
| 23:52.45 | dan1j3l1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.47 | Curious_ | heh |
| 23:52.55 | Curious_ | they shouldn't put bug in the first place |
| 23:52.56 | Cotulla | vm slots, memory managment, ui at the end |
| 23:52.58 | Curious_ | MAJOR bugs |
| 23:52.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: no, i mean, new features |
| 23:53.10 | Cotulla | android changed color of top bar and it's new version |
| 23:53.24 | Curious_ | lyer! |
| 23:53.30 | RaiderX | lol |
| 23:53.31 | Curious_ | they updated sdk |
| 23:53.37 | RaiderX | Cotulla: so true |
| 23:53.50 | Curious_ | in wm |
| 23:53.53 | Curious_ | you dont even get that |
| 23:53.57 | RaiderX | they change one visible thing then say release as new versions |
| 23:54.21 | Curious_ | they fixed bugs, optimized some shit |
| 23:54.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | but if you compare android 2.1 with 1.5, there's a hell lot of changes |
| 23:54.25 | Curious_ | new i/f s |
| 23:54.30 | Curious_ | sorry framewrosk |
| 23:54.33 | Curious_ | works* |
| 23:55.09 | RaiderX | Alex[sp3dev] not really, i had a hero on android 1.5 and got update to 2.1 |
| 23:55.18 | RaiderX | not really much new |
| 23:55.42 | Curious_ | compare 6.1 to 6.5 then? |
| 23:55.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | 2.1 brought a lot of good apis like renderscript, 2.3 brough some DSP libs to ease up visual effects.. but really, they fail at delivering updates to old devices |
| 23:55.57 | Curious_ | it doesn't even had a multitouch |
| 23:56.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | Curious_: 6.1 didn't suck. 6.5 started to |
| 23:56.15 | Curious_ | they both did comparing what is out |
| 23:56.21 | RaiderX | i prefer 6.5 to 6.1 |
| 23:56.29 | RaiderX | i prefer 6.5 to 6.5.x |
| 23:57.07 | RaiderX | the buttons on 6.5.x just look thrown on |
| 23:57.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | there's an epic fail in 6.5.X |
| 23:57.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | if you use classic theme without bitmaps, you'll get white font on white background for tab controls |
| 23:58.42 | RaiderX | wm6.5 with wm7 market is win for me |
| 23:59.14 | Curious_ | is there such thing |
| 23:59.32 | RaiderX | nope |
| 23:59.37 | Curious_ | heh |
| 23:59.42 | RaiderX | <PROTECTED> |