| 00:00.48 | arrrghhh | damnit. had a reboot to winmo after only running for a few minutes. logs say... nada about kernel panic. poop. |
| 00:01.24 | arrrghhh | i blame camro |
| 00:01.35 | arrrghhh | i see you hiding there man, saw you on the other day.... you there? |
| 00:02.16 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, well should i ask those 100/auo guys to just pummel me with log files? do you want logcats too? i'd assume those would be worthless for this heh |
| 00:02.28 | arrrghhh | F22, ping |
| 00:04.06 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: ill see if i can get some more info on the auo panel instead of chasing our tail messing with timing |
| 00:04.28 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sounds like a plan. |
| 00:04.34 | WisTilt2 | the other rhods arent having these problems so its auo specific |
| 00:04.50 | arrrghhh | yea. i have random failed wake issues, but 99% of the time it's fine |
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| 00:05.36 | WisTilt2 | can you dl wistilt2-kernel-pack-buttonleds.zip and give it a try on your 400. you need to turn on button leds before haret until i sort out each machine inits |
| 00:06.03 | arrrghhh | Oo |
| 00:06.07 | arrrghhh | yes sir |
| 00:06.12 | WisTilt2 | this one also has the committed code for caps/fn in correct order for all phones now |
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| 00:06.22 | arrrghhh | sorry that sounded pretty ghey |
| 00:06.22 | randomblame | wistilt2: test results are in - it doesn't work |
| 00:06.39 | arrrghhh | i just envisioned my text being read with a lisp. |
| 00:06.42 | randomblame | the instant haret is launched both lights turn off and don't turn back on |
| 00:06.51 | XirXes_ | is it going to turn off the button leds? |
| 00:07.01 | randomblame | and all three boots it never made it to the homescreen it rebooted during the android animation |
| 00:07.20 | WisTilt2 | randomblame: what? they timed out on their own then before haret kicked winmo. my off code doesnt happen until at least 3secs into linux boot |
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| 00:07.55 | randomblame | no they didn't time out I tested that - the fn light times out in 3 seconds the caps light stays on but the instant haret is launched both turn off |
| 00:08.27 | WisTilt2 | what rom you running? |
| 00:08.34 | randomblame | so maybe haret is writing over the init'd lights |
| 00:09.02 | randomblame | let me look it's older |
| 00:09.53 | WisTilt2 | need to handle something here at office. bb in a bit |
| 00:11.44 | dan1j3l1 | time to sleep, gn8... |
| 00:11.53 | XirXes | yup. button leds are working on 210 |
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| 00:12.30 | XirXes | ran haret with the lights on and a few moments into boot they shut off |
| 00:13.00 | XirXes | and now they come on when you press them. good work wis |
| 00:13.11 | arrrghhh | ah crap |
| 00:13.14 | arrrghhh | i forgot to have them on LOL |
| 00:13.20 | randomblame | ha |
| 00:13.21 | XirXes | lol |
| 00:13.23 | arrrghhh | you'd think i'd be better at this by now. |
| 00:13.56 | randomblame | my rom is a 23569 energy build |
| 00:14.10 | XirXes | crappyness and classlessness go hand in hand arrrghhh :P |
| 00:14.15 | randomblame | haven't flashed in like 6 months |
| 00:14.33 | randomblame | I suppose I can try a different build |
| 00:14.54 | XirXes | go for an energy cookie 2.0 |
| 00:14.59 | XirXes | its fast |
| 00:15.25 | randomblame | okie dokie - I just use winmo to launch haret ha |
| 00:15.29 | arrrghhh | XirXes, what are you tryin to say... |
| 00:15.51 | XirXes | lol... nothing... |
| 00:15.59 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 00:16.08 | arrrghhh | so are the supposed to come on when you slide the screen? |
| 00:16.21 | arrrghhh | s/the/they/ |
| 00:16.23 | XirXes | no. mine didnt |
| 00:16.27 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 00:16.31 | arrrghhh | work fine other than that heh |
| 00:16.48 | arrrghhh | not sure they really need to come on when you slide the phone either, just what i'm used to in WinBlo |
| 00:17.07 | XirXes | i need to update my rootfs. that boot had system server shit |
| 00:17.27 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 00:17.42 | arrrghhh | button lights ftw |
| 00:18.01 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 00:18.03 | arrrghhh | wtf are you doing phone. |
| 00:18.03 | XirXes | meh, only one of mine has the correct label on it |
| 00:18.19 | arrrghhh | one? |
| 00:18.19 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:18.24 | arrrghhh | i thought the back, end and send were good |
| 00:18.29 | arrrghhh | just you have a home key |
| 00:18.33 | arrrghhh | which would be awesome if they all did |
| 00:18.40 | arrrghhh | but everyone else has a "windows" key there. |
| 00:19.01 | XirXes | back button for me. my home key on my insurance replacement is a windows key |
| 00:19.26 | arrrghhh | wait what |
| 00:19.27 | XirXes | call is menu on mine and end is search. |
| 00:19.35 | arrrghhh | wtf |
| 00:19.37 | randomblame | that's odd |
| 00:19.42 | arrrghhh | nj |
| 00:19.43 | randomblame | call should be call |
| 00:19.58 | arrrghhh | uh oh |
| 00:19.59 | randomblame | windows should be menu back should be back and end should be home |
| 00:20.06 | XirXes | i have a 210 with a windows key. and i made the keymap changes myself |
| 00:20.10 | arrrghhh | "W/MountService( 1402): Waiting too long for mReady!" |
| 00:20.13 | randomblame | ah |
| 00:20.15 | arrrghhh | anyone know what that means? |
| 00:20.38 | randomblame | does it mean kernel panic rebooting to winmo sucka? cuz that's what mine pantomimed 3 times |
| 00:20.49 | arrrghhh | usually |
| 00:20.59 | arrrghhh | almost every reboot to winmo i've had has been a kernel panic |
| 00:21.02 | arrrghhh | just had one today tho that wasn't. |
| 00:21.12 | arrrghhh | and now i'm just getting a shitload of those mReady messages in my logcat. |
| 00:21.16 | arrrghhh | mountservice |
| 00:21.22 | arrrghhh | that sounds SD related. |
| 00:21.34 | randomblame | yeah it could be mad at your sd - mine hates mine |
| 00:21.35 | arrrghhh | it's trying to turn off the screen. |
| 00:21.47 | arrrghhh | all the buttons say "ignoring user activity while turning off screen" |
| 00:22.08 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 00:22.12 | arrrghhh | this is... odd. |
| 00:22.54 | arrrghhh | i wonder if i should leave it to troubleshoot or just reset. |
| 00:23.12 | arrrghhh | Unable to find ITelephony interface |
| 00:23.14 | arrrghhh | huh |
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| 00:28.16 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 00:28.23 | arrrghhh | i guess i should try a new data.img. this is acting wacky. |
| 00:28.31 | arrrghhh | XirXes, is it acting normal for you? sleep, etc? |
| 00:29.03 | XirXes | idk. i booted back to windows to put a new rootfs on it. |
| 00:29.13 | arrrghhh | damn u |
| 00:29.14 | arrrghhh | :P |
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| 00:31.24 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 00:31.32 | arrrghhh | i'm going to reboot and double check everything. this is odd... |
| 00:31.42 | randomblame | it's broked |
| 00:31.59 | arrrghhh | yea, i want to rule out this kernel. |
| 00:32.08 | arrrghhh | make sure it's not something with the setup... |
| 00:32.10 | arrrghhh | oh testing. |
| 00:32.30 | randomblame | yeah I'm loading a new winmo rom to see if it'll work differently |
| 00:32.44 | XirXes | im booting again now |
| 00:32.49 | randomblame | 28244 similar to 23xxxx? |
| 00:32.56 | XirXes | yes |
| 00:33.19 | randomblame | just newer branch from some manufacturer? |
| 00:33.27 | randomblame | meh I'll try it |
| 00:33.28 | arrrghhh | NRGZ pumps out ROMs like crazy. |
| 00:33.29 | XirXes | yeah |
| 00:34.25 | XirXes | i need to update my winblow aswell. wifi hasnt been working right on that side |
| 00:34.28 | randomblame | it's nice they're still cooking winmo 6.5 roms - maybe I'll be able to load haret that much quicker |
| 00:36.29 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 00:36.34 | arrrghhh | i'm also using that stupid new haret |
| 00:36.41 | XirXes | just put gen.y on it. then youll be able to start haret before winblow even starts getting its shit togeather |
| 00:36.49 | arrrghhh | and that startup option for the cam testing crap. might be skewing things. |
| 00:36.50 | XirXes | new haret? |
| 00:36.59 | arrrghhh | haven't mucked in the cam testing lately? |
| 00:37.15 | arrrghhh | yea, i'm really hoping that's not going to be required when he actually commits that madness. |
| 00:38.20 | XirXes | i havent done cam testing at all. i figure ill use it when its commited. |
| 00:38.56 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 00:39.11 | arrrghhh | i used that immediately. deposited a check with my bank, can't wait till it's committed |
| 00:39.20 | arrrghhh | i don't really use cam as a normal camera. |
| 00:39.27 | arrrghhh | but all the apps that use cam... :D |
| 00:39.44 | randomblame | wait a tick there's cam code in this kernel? |
| 00:40.19 | XirXes | nope |
| 00:40.40 | arrrghhh | not at all |
| 00:40.43 | randomblame | lol I didn't think that stuff was close to finalized yet |
| 00:40.47 | arrrghhh | completely separate kernel. |
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| 00:41.46 | XirXes | my caps and alt leds arent working |
| 00:42.04 | arrrghhh | heh mine either. |
| 00:43.11 | XirXes | and i just had the touch to draw issue. but otherwise its running and acting just fine |
| 00:45.19 | arrrghhh | crap i forgot to change that initrd option |
| 00:45.24 | arrrghhh | and the sleep led is still freakin out |
| 00:45.29 | arrrghhh | probably should do that. poop. |
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| 00:45.42 | randomblame | flashing is fun |
| 00:45.47 | randomblame | its exciting |
| 00:45.51 | arrrghhh | XirXes, it seems like the touch to wake issue is basically back... odd. |
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| 00:46.13 | randomblame | at any moment it could go horribly wrong - and then it doesn't what a rush |
| 00:46.15 | XirXes | its not every time but yeah, i agree |
| 00:46.16 | arrrghhh | almost every time it wouldn't wake till i touched the screen. ah well, hopefully i'll get back to 'stock' |
| 00:46.23 | arrrghhh | i should probably keep a vanilla build |
| 00:46.25 | arrrghhh | a cam testing build |
| 00:46.31 | arrrghhh | damnit. too much stuffs! |
| 00:47.14 | XirXes | i have one build. it seems to do the trick |
| 00:47.58 | arrrghhh | yea yea |
| 00:48.04 | arrrghhh | i stage a lot of crap. |
| 00:50.06 | arrrghhh | i think i will split the cam stuff out |
| 00:50.10 | arrrghhh | cuz it's so different now... |
| 00:50.28 | arrrghhh | the farther down the rabbit hole viruscrazy goes, the more different his tree becomes. |
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| 00:50.43 | arrrghhh | he's had to implement all sorts of weird crap like that new haret, startup.txt entry for the initrd... |
| 00:58.20 | F22 | WisTilt2: My 210 with the auo panel, at some point after android starts coming up, has an oops, the kernel panics and then reboots before i get the boot ani. still haven't had the chance to look at it closely. i'm looking at the previous posts from the former owner now. apparently kernel 1232 came up fine on it, but rebooted once the phone went to sleep. something apparently changed in 1233 that causes it kernel panic at some point after an |
| 00:58.46 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: i'll be back on later from home, dealing with some employee issues so im out |
| 00:59.06 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, heh np dude. |
| 00:59.15 | WisTilt2 | F22: ill get with you later tonight if you're on. |
| 00:59.22 | F22 | ok, i should be around |
| 00:59.25 | F22 | talk to you then |
| 01:00.02 | arrrghhh | so i'm guessing the panel detect kernel just craps its pants? |
| 01:00.05 | F22 | arrrghhh: was your ping related to Wis? |
| 01:00.20 | arrrghhh | yea that question in fact ^^ |
| 01:01.18 | F22 | lol, ok. |
| 01:01.34 | arrrghhh | what does happen on his panel detect kernel |
| 01:02.29 | F22 | that's the kernel i put on it. |
| 01:02.52 | randomblame | bah that kernel panic'd on my new rom as well |
| 01:02.55 | F22 | haven't tried it with one of my stock kernels yet. |
| 01:04.34 | F22 | randomblame: what model rhod do you have? |
| 01:04.46 | randomblame | 300 |
| 01:04.55 | F22 | yours panics too? |
| 01:05.11 | randomblame | yeah before the android animation completes it reboots |
| 01:05.14 | F22 | i'd have thought that Wis would have yours covered since he has a 300 too. |
| 01:05.24 | randomblame | yeah that's the odd part |
| 01:05.32 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:05.32 | randomblame | maybe he's linking old builds again |
| 01:05.39 | arrrghhh | did you pull logs? |
| 01:05.42 | arrrghhh | i don't think he ever has |
| 01:05.49 | arrrghhh | it was always my stupid asses fault |
| 01:05.52 | randomblame | lol |
| 01:05.57 | arrrghhh | well, that and ff caching crap |
| 01:06.00 | randomblame | I'll try adb during boot |
| 01:06.01 | arrrghhh | making my life difficult |
| 01:06.22 | arrrghhh | depending on how far the boot process gets |
| 01:06.33 | arrrghhh | if you see the bootani there's a good chance it'll work. |
| 01:06.42 | arrrghhh | i usually get connected well before bootani if i'm on it. |
| 01:06.44 | randomblame | yeah it works pretty early |
| 01:07.14 | randomblame | ok I hate this rom - different home screen on landscape than on portrait |
| 01:07.37 | F22 | hmm...now i remember what i planning on doing...making a new rootfs just to troubleshoot this crap, one that auto-makes the logs i want before the phone reboots. |
| 01:08.15 | randomblame | aren't dmesg's dumped in a timely manner already? |
| 01:08.16 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 01:08.26 | arrrghhh | randomblame, you can get them immediately |
| 01:08.35 | arrrghhh | just have the command lined up |
| 01:08.42 | arrrghhh | run a few of them |
| 01:08.43 | randomblame | er I meant kmesg |
| 01:08.57 | randomblame | in response to f22's comment |
| 01:09.02 | F22 | the stuff in dropbox seems incomplete |
| 01:09.44 | arrrghhh | sometimes |
| 01:09.52 | arrrghhh | F22, it usually matches last_kmsg exactly tho |
| 01:09.58 | F22 | i can't actually see the kmesg live since it keeps restarting, all i can do is grab the log that gets written out every boot. |
| 01:10.17 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 01:10.32 | randomblame | that's ten out of ten times it won't boot |
| 01:10.47 | arrrghhh | this is just with wistilt2's new kernel, yes? |
| 01:10.51 | randomblame | yeah |
| 01:10.55 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 01:12.17 | F22 | for me it's easier to modify the rootfs once, and have everything i want written out to /sdcard instead of having to continually pry it out of the data.img until I finally get one that's helpful. |
| 01:12.43 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 01:12.53 | arrrghhh | could put it in the froyo.user.conf too right |
| 01:13.36 | randomblame | this rom seems to have reversed my lights and broken them the fn button makes the caps light turn on but the caps button turns no lights on |
| 01:13.42 | F22 | true, but i also want to put stuff in init.rc to narrow down the cause. |
| 01:13.47 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 01:13.57 | arrrghhh | randomblame, lol |
| 01:14.03 | arrrghhh | last boot neither turned on. |
| 01:14.17 | randomblame | heh I'm talking about winmo |
| 01:14.25 | randomblame | my lights are dead in this kernel |
| 01:15.35 | arrrghhh | don't talk about winmo |
| 01:15.58 | F22 | not sure of the order android runs stuff off hand, but it may well be that the panic happens before froyo.user.conf gets run. |
| 01:16.54 | arrrghhh | could be |
| 01:16.59 | arrrghhh | no clue where yours is dying |
| 01:17.10 | arrrghhh | other auo panel users can run this kernel, just not very well it seems from the reports. |
| 01:17.21 | arrrghhh | we don't have any knowledgeable auo panel testers really |
| 01:17.22 | randomblame | I can't test it properly without both leds init'd before boot so if it doesn't work in winmo it won't work in linux |
| 01:17.29 | arrrghhh | snalsbad really hasn't given me much feedback, kinda disappointed. |
| 01:17.31 | F22 | what problems are they reporting arrrghhh? |
| 01:17.35 | randomblame | this rom isn't suitable for testing |
| 01:17.40 | arrrghhh | SoD's, freezes, lockups, etc. |
| 01:18.03 | arrrghhh | none are having failed boots to my knowledge. |
| 01:18.18 | randomblame | holy weirdness batman it got to the lockscreen before rebooting this time |
| 01:19.33 | XirXes | gah, the second i pick up my tp2 it reset. i might have been caused by a usb disconnect |
| 01:19.50 | arrrghhh | what were you thinking |
| 01:20.20 | XirXes | thats what i get fo touching things |
| 01:20.32 | F22 | we seem to be getting a lot of reports of resets, what kernel are running Xirx? |
| 01:21.07 | XirXes | the buttonleds |
| 01:21.08 | arrrghhh | damnit |
| 01:21.14 | arrrghhh | sleep LED still fuxored. |
| 01:21.26 | arrrghhh | caps/fn doesn't work at all. |
| 01:21.37 | XirXes | by fuxored you mean off right? i have that too |
| 01:21.44 | arrrghhh | not really |
| 01:21.50 | arrrghhh | so i get orange led in wake, as usual |
| 01:21.55 | XirXes | same |
| 01:22.02 | arrrghhh | then i hit power, and eventually it just blinks |
| 01:22.10 | arrrghhh | orange/off/orange/off etc |
| 01:22.16 | arrrghhh | i never see a green LED |
| 01:22.18 | F22 | what are you testing right now arrrghhh? |
| 01:22.21 | arrrghhh | same |
| 01:22.33 | XirXes | i get orange when awake and nothing while asleep |
| 01:22.37 | arrrghhh | wistilt2-kernel-pack-buttonleds.zip F22 |
| 01:22.43 | arrrghhh | XirXes, lol |
| 01:22.48 | F22 | ah, haven't tried that one. |
| 01:22.52 | arrrghhh | might need some tweaking. |
| 01:23.08 | F22 | not that it makes a diff with this phone... :P |
| 01:23.12 | arrrghhh | F22, throw some more crazy feedback in the pile. |
| 01:23.21 | arrrghhh | not your freakin auo panel ES phone |
| 01:23.44 | F22 | you want me to run it with my eid panel phone? |
| 01:23.51 | arrrghhh | that would be nice |
| 01:23.52 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 01:24.24 | randomblame | hehe maybe it'll work in the one off phone |
| 01:24.38 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:24.41 | arrrghhh | everything works! |
| 01:24.45 | arrrghhh | bt, cam, awesome. |
| 01:24.46 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:25.01 | randomblame | that would be great |
| 01:25.14 | randomblame | then we'd all be begging for it to be ripped apart to let us know what's different |
| 01:25.22 | arrrghhh | seriously |
| 01:25.27 | arrrghhh | we'd all show up at f22's door. |
| 01:25.36 | F22 | lol |
| 01:26.50 | randomblame | wish I hadn't flashed my tried and true rom for this pos |
| 01:27.06 | randomblame | can't wait for nand |
| 01:27.26 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:28.12 | arrrghhh | acl seems really close with tinboot |
| 01:28.16 | arrrghhh | which is really ironic |
| 01:28.22 | arrrghhh | as cotulla brings us magldr lol |
| 01:28.38 | randomblame | hehe it's a race to the finish |
| 01:28.45 | randomblame | that's a good place to end it |
| 01:29.14 | XirXes | i was just looking at my last kmesg and there wasnt anything towards a cause for reset. it just ends |
| 01:30.38 | randomblame | bah my data.img must be corrupt |
| 01:30.50 | XirXes | gpiomatrix was complaining about unmapped keys at the end but nothing interesting |
| 01:31.55 | randomblame | I wonder if this fn/led light issue I'm having in winmo is related to this kernel |
| 01:32.21 | randomblame | because they're just quick resets it might not be writing over it |
| 01:32.24 | XirXes | the last line in the other one i have today was "[ 2609.083557] htcraphael_reset: Soft reset done." but i figure thats what it says when you use the reset pin. which i did |
| 01:32.26 | randomblame | I'm doing a good deep reset |
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| 01:33.44 | XirXes | the most complete reset you can do is a task 29 with a reflash of the hspl |
| 01:34.48 | randomblame | lol a battery pull for a few minutes should suffice |
| 01:35.04 | randomblame | at least for clearing the ram |
| 01:35.59 | randomblame | I think it's got to be the roms fault |
| 01:36.03 | randomblame | lousy windows |
| 01:37.00 | XirXes | indeed. no matter how much work gets put into winmo it just cant be fixed. |
| 01:37.30 | randomblame | truely |
| 01:37.47 | arrrghhh | XirXes, can you pastebin the log? |
| 01:37.48 | XirXes | yeah |
| 01:38.40 | XirXes | http://pastebin.com/hJMtQrNE |
| 01:39.03 | randomblame | battery pull didn't fix the fn/led in winmo so it's got nothing to do with the kernel or haret just a lousy rom |
| 01:40.28 | arrrghhh | thx |
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| 01:40.52 | arrrghhh | i don't see any soft reset line.... |
| 01:41.00 | arrrghhh | oh that was the other one |
| 01:43.43 | XirXes | do you want that one too. it was a normal shutdown from a system_server boot |
| 01:44.20 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 01:44.21 | arrrghhh | no |
| 01:44.22 | arrrghhh | :P |
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| 01:55.24 | Diem | how many here are indian |
| 01:55.48 | arrrghhh | Diem, this isn't a room for chat. |
| 01:56.12 | Diem | what is it for then |
| 01:56.19 | arrrghhh | kernel development |
| 01:56.25 | arrrghhh | there's this thing called a "topic" |
| 01:56.27 | arrrghhh | might want to read it. |
| 01:56.31 | Diem | isnt that chat? |
| 01:56.33 | arrrghhh | y'know, when you sign in? |
| 01:57.05 | arrrghhh | uhm. i guess but it's kernel development chat. not random "who here is indian" chat. |
| 01:57.31 | Diem | indians are into kernels |
| 01:57.42 | arrrghhh | that's nice |
| 02:00.02 | XirXes | lol |
| 02:01.54 | Diem | plays Kings of leon - Cold Desert |
| 02:02.23 | arrrghhh | Diem, please. |
| 02:02.35 | Diem | ok sry |
| 02:02.40 | arrrghhh | thank you. |
| 02:02.42 | Diem | haha\ |
| 02:02.49 | arrrghhh | ... |
| 02:03.16 | Diem | how can you be anoyed of this |
| 02:03.56 | arrrghhh | you can say whatever nonsense you want in -caht |
| 02:03.58 | arrrghhh | er |
| 02:03.59 | arrrghhh | chat |
| 02:04.04 | arrrghhh | but this is not a channel for chat... |
| 02:04.06 | Diem | unless you want to suck-up |
| 02:04.11 | XirXes | Diem: if you want chat join #htc-linuc-chat |
| 02:04.19 | arrrghhh | suck up? |
| 02:04.21 | arrrghhh | to whom? |
| 02:04.27 | XirXes | not with me tho i dont kick it in there |
| 02:04.32 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 02:04.39 | arrrghhh | awesome XirXes |
| 02:04.42 | XirXes | lol |
| 02:05.49 | Diem | suck nr 1 |
| 02:06.00 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 02:06.01 | arrrghhh | k |
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| 02:15.55 | arrrghhh | damnit. |
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| 02:15.57 | arrrghhh | new data.img |
| 02:16.02 | arrrghhh | and my sleep state is still messed up. |
| 02:16.04 | XirXes | haha |
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| 02:35.22 | WisTilt2 | bah! |
| 02:35.54 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: guess you already noticed caps/fn stopped working. damn button led power kills caps/fn |
| 02:36.00 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:36.08 | arrrghhh | my sleep led is f-ed up too FYI |
| 02:36.52 | WisTilt2 | i noticed they werent working when i was typing a text. yeah blink green would probably not work either since they're powered off same gpio |
| 02:37.01 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 02:37.13 | arrrghhh | button lights work as advertised |
| 02:37.26 | arrrghhh | assuming i remember to have them on at boot, which i've only remembered once so far lol |
| 02:37.34 | WisTilt2 | so, guess ill continue mapping out microp for each device for the buttons:( |
| 02:37.58 | WisTilt2 | i really am beginning to dislike htc more and more |
| 02:38.03 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:38.05 | arrrghhh | sucks bro. |
| 02:38.22 | arrrghhh | is there something each different model could do to help ya? |
| 02:40.02 | jonpry | hi wistilt2 |
| 02:40.12 | WisTilt2 | im going to make a kernel that will cycle through all the bitmasks on the microp addy that i know works on the 300 and hope the other devices use same addy but a different bit. then testers can look at dmesg and see which bit turned them on. |
| 02:40.17 | WisTilt2 | Hey jonpry:) |
| 02:40.42 | arrrghhh | sounds like a plan. |
| 02:40.58 | WisTilt2 | htc=microsoft subsidiary |
| 02:41.14 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 02:41.31 | arrrghhh | leo guys got it easy |
| 02:41.38 | arrrghhh | there's i think 2 versions of that phone |
| 02:41.43 | arrrghhh | 512mb rom and 1024 lol |
| 02:41.53 | WisTilt2 | damn |
| 02:42.14 | arrrghhh | yea and we're trying to suppord raph, rhod, diam, topa and blac... |
| 02:42.16 | arrrghhh | oy |
| 02:42.32 | arrrghhh | kov too i guess. lol |
| 02:42.33 | diem01 | lol |
| 02:42.34 | jonpry | i don't think there is such a thing as 8gbit slc |
| 02:42.40 | XirXes | what about khov??Q!!@ |
| 02:42.54 | arrrghhh | maybe we don't support kovsky |
| 02:43.06 | arrrghhh | i could just be rambling |
| 02:43.10 | arrrghhh | needs more beer |
| 02:43.18 | MN_ | yup only 2 versions for leo |
| 02:43.40 | jonpry | wistilt2: so i think we need to move most of the battery code to userland |
| 02:43.42 | arrrghhh | bastages |
| 02:43.52 | arrrghhh | orly |
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| 02:44.06 | XirXes | whats a bastage? |
| 02:44.18 | arrrghhh | like a bastard... but not? |
| 02:44.23 | XirXes | lol |
| 02:44.36 | diem01 | it's one of the few p |
| 02:44.38 | arrrghhh | ever seen "Johnny Dangerously"? |
| 02:44.41 | arrrghhh | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bastage |
| 02:44.41 | XirXes | i discribe things that way all the time |
| 02:44.58 | arrrghhh | <3 that movie |
| 02:45.19 | XirXes | ill have to watch it then. |
| 02:45.27 | arrrghhh | old school flick |
| 02:45.39 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: sounds good. just need the basic stuff in the kernel. what kind of info can we read from the battery other than mv do you know? |
| 02:45.47 | arrrghhh | michael keaton or whatever... anyhoo enough OT. |
| 02:46.36 | jonpry | WisTilt2: there is current, some kind of charge direction thingy, temperature, and a battery id |
| 02:47.31 | jonpry | i think we just need to measure when appropriate, time stamp it, and put it in a big ring buffer |
| 02:47.55 | WisTilt2 | well with voltage and temperature we should be able to do a makeshift pseudo charging scheme that will bring it up to full. i only see 2 different charge current modes though. |
| 02:48.14 | WisTilt2 | or can we set the actual charge current? |
| 02:48.22 | jonpry | we can read it anyways |
| 02:48.38 | jonpry | iirc there are 2 current measurements in smem |
| 02:48.53 | jonpry | one is charge, the other discharge, where only one is non zero |
| 02:49.04 | jonpry | and they are fairly normal, like ma*10 or something |
| 02:49.59 | WisTilt2 | so these are current from/to battery that we can read now? |
| 02:50.10 | manekineko | arrrghhh what's wrong with the sleep led? |
| 02:50.17 | WisTilt2 | i broke it |
| 02:50.17 | manekineko | I'm on the combined kernel as well, and mine seems to be working properly |
| 02:50.22 | arrrghhh | manekineko, it's just in a test kernel don't worry. |
| 02:50.30 | manekineko | oh ok, so newer than what you've posted |
| 02:50.31 | jonpry | yeah, but there is some caveat. it is in the PMIC datasheet. like one of those numbers, is either wrong, or loaded with noise |
| 02:50.33 | arrrghhh | not that test kernel :P |
| 02:50.42 | arrrghhh | manekineko, don't worry about it. under control. |
| 02:54.37 | WisTilt2 | guys, dinner is ready so i shall return in a bit. |
| 02:54.47 | arrrghhh | np. |
| 02:54.57 | arrrghhh | i expect a fixed kernel by the time you're done with dinner :P (jk) |
| 02:55.56 | MN_ | eat and code is the way forward |
| 02:57.33 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:58.25 | randomblame | It's funny how much trouble two little lights cause |
| 02:58.39 | randomblame | I honestly don't care that they're switched on my 300 since I know they're switched |
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| 03:47.10 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: i expect a fixed kernel by the time you're done with dinner :P (jk) <<--- ha! had dinner, had a few drinks, and fixed it but im keeping it all to myself:) |
| 03:49.23 | jonpry | hey WisTilt2 |
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| 03:49.56 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 03:50.03 | arrrghhh | i deserved that :P |
| 03:50.42 | WisTilt2 | dl this kernel if you will and see if things are back to normal. i disabled button lights again until i get it all coded in microp |
| 03:51.02 | arrrghhh | same name? |
| 03:51.09 | arrrghhh | er |
| 03:51.09 | WisTilt2 | we didnt put that kernel up with the fixed lights did we? i committed all that stuff and hopefully acl will push it tonight |
| 03:51.13 | arrrghhh | just the "normal" name |
| 03:51.16 | WisTilt2 | normal kernel-pack |
| 03:51.17 | arrrghhh | oh no |
| 03:51.24 | WisTilt2 | wget remember:) |
| 03:51.24 | arrrghhh | i don't put anything up until you approve ;) |
| 03:51.31 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 03:51.35 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: fire away |
| 03:51.36 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 03:52.31 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: remember to keep button lights off with this one until i get all that side working. people will have to wait a bit longer |
| 03:52.46 | jonpry | WisTilt2, we just need this buffer thing worked out, i can work on the userspace part. I will need it for my little project anyways |
| 03:53.36 | WisTilt2 | i can do the kernel side if you want. what ya need me to do? i assume we're going to talk via sysfs? |
| 03:53.55 | jonpry | or char |
| 03:54.12 | jonpry | the thing i don't understand is scheduling it |
| 03:54.25 | jonpry | like obviously you can't take measurements while the phone is sleeping |
| 03:54.27 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: hold off on that dl. forgot to reenable the power for the led:) |
| 03:54.36 | arrrghhh | np |
| 03:54.39 | jonpry | but other than that we want as many as often as possible |
| 03:54.56 | jonpry | and i don't know how often a9 updates that memory |
| 03:55.19 | WisTilt2 | set it up within a timer maybe that wakes things up while in sleep? |
| 03:55.19 | jonpry | but at the very least we need to know the actual interval to put estimates on the bandwidth |
| 03:55.49 | jonpry | is that even possible, don't you kill a11 until a9 wakes it up? |
| 03:57.20 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: kernel-pack is up, give it a try. |
| 03:57.30 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 03:57.46 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: should be able to set wakes something like udev does |
| 03:58.27 | WisTilt2 | let me look at that, maybe im not thinking of the right thing... |
| 03:58.42 | jonpry | i guess that would be ok. sleep numbers could be interesting because they should have low currents |
| 03:59.04 | jonpry | no need to wake userland up though, just stash |
| 03:59.32 | bzo | jonpry: battery smem is updated with a dex call |
| 03:59.39 | bzo | does not self refresh |
| 03:59.45 | jonpry | hrm |
| 04:00.11 | WisTilt2 | should be able to keep the averages within the kernel then pass to userland when awake. |
| 04:00.40 | jonpry | i think ring buffer is the best thing |
| 04:01.11 | jonpry | its possible that data recorded over sleep will have lots of different temperatures/battery levels |
| 04:01.25 | jonpry | with fairly constant current, which will help the regressions |
| 04:01.45 | jonpry | just keep like 64kB or something |
| 04:02.07 | jonpry | figure the response time of temp/level is very slow |
| 04:02.18 | jonpry | one per minute at most |
| 04:02.56 | bzo | you can see winmo doing the same thing |
| 04:03.05 | bzo | when tracing the dex register, it fires once a minute or so |
| 04:04.05 | jonpry | thats good to know |
| 04:04.18 | jonpry | i had thought you could go faster when the phone was out of sleep |
| 04:04.22 | jonpry | but maybe not |
| 04:04.41 | bzo | I think you can request a battery update as frequent as you want |
| 04:05.03 | bzo | only thing is that the dex call tend to be blocking, so they can cause little hangs |
| 04:05.05 | jonpry | yeah, but we don't know what kind of filtering is on it |
| 04:05.42 | bzo | I think the dex call causes a raw refresh of all the info |
| 04:06.01 | jonpry | true, but it is an adc, with potential filters |
| 04:06.25 | jonpry | like i didn't use any on my little device, and it has me worried |
| 04:06.54 | jonpry | like when the adc code is actually running, cpu should be cranked out, drawing 1.5 amps |
| 04:07.10 | jonpry | so no matter what i do, i should measure cpu current at maximum |
| 04:07.22 | jonpry | which is obviously wrong |
| 04:07.53 | bzo | just the a9 would be running measuring the adc, fairly low current I would think |
| 04:08.17 | jonpry | but a spin loop on a11 will draw tons of current |
| 04:08.38 | WisTilt2 | how quick does the bat voltage stabilize from sleep to wake? |
| 04:08.53 | bzo | you mean in the case of rapidly reading repetitively? |
| 04:09.12 | jonpry | theoretically or practically? |
| 04:09.50 | bzo | or spinning when polling the dex command? |
| 04:10.18 | jonpry | bzo: and your arguments if correct, shows the cpu drawing minimal current in all circumstance which is just as bad |
| 04:10.52 | jonpry | i think you need some kind of capacitor on the adc input, and a big ass R |
| 04:10.56 | bzo | brb |
| 04:11.07 | jonpry | or else all of this is fubar |
| 04:11.27 | WisTilt2 | can we read the adc directly now or only from memory? |
| 04:12.25 | jonpry | a9 has to handle it since it is in PMIC and we aren't allowed to touch it |
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| 04:19.05 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, sorry for the delay. kernel pack is good. |
| 04:21.35 | WisTilt2 | both caps/fn leds are in correct order ? |
| 04:21.46 | WisTilt2 | and sleep led working again? |
| 04:21.47 | arrrghhh | yup |
| 04:22.00 | arrrghhh | did i tell you rhod100 was messed up on that tho? |
| 04:22.02 | arrrghhh | i hope i did. |
| 04:22.09 | WisTilt2 | no? |
| 04:22.12 | arrrghhh | crap. |
| 04:22.17 | arrrghhh | let me double-check the thread real quick |
| 04:22.21 | WisTilt2 | is it backwards also like the 300 |
| 04:22.32 | arrrghhh | not really |
| 04:22.35 | arrrghhh | one key was right |
| 04:22.43 | arrrghhh | and the other was wrong. alt was caps or something |
| 04:22.46 | arrrghhh | let me double check |
| 04:22.57 | WisTilt2 | doesnt the 100 have caps/fn keys also? |
| 04:24.36 | arrrghhh | yes |
| 04:24.45 | arrrghhh | so ctrl button triggers FN light |
| 04:24.53 | arrrghhh | and caps works as expected |
| 04:24.56 | arrrghhh | FN lights nothing |
| 04:25.07 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: cant we just wake up every few mins, pull voltage, and store it in a ring buffer then do the appropriate math for the averages based on sleep time? follow actual values while in wake maybe? |
| 04:25.35 | jonpry | that sounds fine, we just need all the numbers |
| 04:25.57 | jonpry | current, voltage, temp, timestamp |
| 04:26.11 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: wth is ctrl button jeeze. sounds like what i need is the actual scan values for those keys then...i can map them easily the way im doing it now. |
| 04:26.20 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 04:26.22 | arrrghhh | F22, ping! |
| 04:26.37 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: let me mess with that. you think 64k is enough for a ring buffer? |
| 04:26.39 | F22 | need scan codes? |
| 04:26.59 | arrrghhh | yes pls |
| 04:27.01 | arrrghhh | rhod100 |
| 04:27.01 | WisTilt2 | F22: actual hex return values if you have them, if not i can make a kernel to pull them |
| 04:27.11 | arrrghhh | evidently ctrl key on rhod100 lights fn |
| 04:27.14 | arrrghhh | and fn lights nosing |
| 04:27.29 | jonpry | WisTilt2, yes i think that may be way overkill |
| 04:27.47 | jonpry | but i think the userland daemon should try to sleep as much as possible |
| 04:28.27 | WisTilt2 | 5min intervals maybe to start and see what we get? |
| 04:29.15 | F22 | ahh...i see....fn and ctrl are reversed from what the 210 has. |
| 04:29.52 | jonpry | 5 min for sleep, but wake we probably want something similar to the time that android battery thing updates |
| 04:30.16 | F22 | on the 210 fn is 215, that's not hex, that's what's in the kl. |
| 04:30.18 | jonpry | can we kill the battery in 2 hours, worst case? |
| 04:30.26 | F22 | scratch that |
| 04:30.39 | F22 | on the 100, fn is 215 i meant |
| 04:31.10 | F22 | on the 210, fn is 464 |
| 04:31.16 | bzo | F22, is the escape key mapped anywhere on the kb? |
| 04:31.49 | F22 | i believe hitting ctrl twice gets you esc in most of the apps that care. |
| 04:32.03 | F22 | assuming ctrl is mapped to dpad_center |
| 04:32.13 | WisTilt2 | F22: what do you show for the back key and send key? i think we're talking different values than i need here. |
| 04:32.31 | bzo | ok, thanks for the tip. Let's see if it works on the shell |
| 04:32.56 | F22 | on the 100? i have 158 for back and i'm not sure what you mean by send. enter? |
| 04:33.49 | F22 | for the tilt2/300 i have 42 for fn |
| 04:33.51 | WisTilt2 | send, whatever its called, the one to bring up the phone dialer |
| 04:33.55 | bzo | F22, hmm, is there a ctrl key on the 400? |
| 04:34.17 | F22 | no, i mapped dpad_center to sms/mms on the 400. |
| 04:34.21 | F22 | if you're using my rootfs. |
| 04:34.27 | F22 | otherwise it's up to you. |
| 04:34.48 | F22 | ah, call... |
| 04:34.57 | F22 | on the 100, call is 231 |
| 04:34.59 | bzo | right, been meaning to try yours |
| 04:35.31 | bzo | I just wanna be able to use vi, lol |
| 04:35.38 | F22 | on the 300/tilt2, call is also 231 |
| 04:36.21 | WisTilt2 | those are different numbers than i get in the area im reading them from. fn key i get 60dec, call key 9dec. |
| 04:36.34 | WisTilt2 | back key 1dec |
| 04:36.51 | F22 | hrm...let me pull what i got for getevent way back when on my handset |
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| 04:38.13 | WisTilt2 | currently turning on caps and fn leds i get a value of 0x3b and 0x3c for those keys. easy enough to code some printk's that 100 users can just hit their ctrl and fn keys and give me the values. |
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| 04:39.10 | stinebd | you need a hundred users to do that? ;) |
| 04:39.13 | WisTilt2 | randomblame: you might want to try this next kernel and see if your caps/fn leds are now correct |
| 04:39.31 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: lol, just 1 with a 100 would do:) |
| 04:40.27 | F22 | hmm...call is d7 in getevent, which is 231. matches up for me. |
| 04:41.15 | randomblame | will do |
| 04:41.31 | randomblame | same address? |
| 04:41.50 | WisTilt2 | yes and you'll have to dl the kernel-pack, didnt put put the zImage |
| 04:42.21 | WisTilt2 | different git id now anyway so modules are now named different than previous |
| 04:42.23 | randomblame | hmm pm it to me cuz I guess I closed that tab |
| 04:42.34 | F22 | whoops, confused that one with dpad_center, that's 215, not 231. i meant e7 |
| 04:43.36 | WisTilt2 | F22: where are you pulling those values from? |
| 04:44.06 | F22 | getevent gives you the hex version of the scan codes |
| 04:44.32 | F22 | the key layouts expect the decimal version |
| 04:45.02 | WisTilt2 | im doing this in microp keypad so the event value there is different i guess |
| 04:45.19 | WisTilt2 | your getting those out of micro ksc i think |
| 04:45.22 | F22 | now the key layouts for the rhodium always use the same scan codes for the same key position. it's just that they're moved around on some keyboards so they're not in the same position, and thus have a different scan code. |
| 04:46.14 | F22 | so perhaps i should tell you which key they match with on say your tilt2, then you can use the value that corresponds to that? |
| 04:47.23 | F22 | i'm not sure where in the kernel getevent is pulling them from. |
| 04:48.41 | F22 | fn on the 100 is the ok key on the 300 |
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| 04:50.00 | F22 | shift on the 100 is the fn key on the 300 |
| 04:50.16 | WisTilt2 | that will work also i think. just need their fn and ctrl key equiv to the 300 and i can map it that way |
| 04:50.25 | arrrghhh | ofc we don't have a rhod100 user in here. |
| 04:50.26 | arrrghhh | bah |
| 04:50.26 | randomblame | wistilt2 do I need to have both the lights on at boot for it to work this time? |
| 04:50.41 | arrrghhh | randomblame, no button lights |
| 04:50.44 | WisTilt2 | no, button leds are off again until i code them in microp |
| 04:51.06 | WisTilt2 | turning them off like i was also killed power to caps/fn and sleep led |
| 04:51.09 | randomblame | ok |
| 04:51.47 | WisTilt2 | so the 100 does have a caps and fn key correct? |
| 04:51.51 | F22 | yup |
| 04:52.04 | F22 | they're just assigned to different keys |
| 04:52.09 | WisTilt2 | then i just need the equiv of those 2 keys to the 300 and i can fix that |
| 04:53.11 | F22 | yup |
| 04:54.03 | arrrghhh | sorry WisTilt2, thought i told you that ;) |
| 04:54.08 | arrrghhh | too many things. |
| 04:54.23 | WisTilt2 | yeah i know the feeling:) |
| 04:54.26 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 04:54.42 | arrrghhh | work's been blowin up too. had a 5hr meeting with a bunch of cisco punks. |
| 04:54.54 | WisTilt2 | F22 you have that info or do i need to make a test kernel to grab it? |
| 04:55.00 | arrrghhh | some of our architect admins had a yelling match. always fun. |
| 04:55.18 | arrrghhh | i can also pm a 100 user |
| 04:55.29 | arrrghhh | if we need someone to get that info for sure |
| 04:56.19 | F22 | the shift on the rhod100 you should already have, as shift for everything other than the 300. |
| 04:56.21 | WisTilt2 | yeah i ended up having to fire one of my developers tonight. got too big for his britches after being with us for 8yrs and went about demanding something he shouldn't have. |
| 04:56.58 | randomblame | ha I renamed my existing zimage to zimage-stable and the same with my modules rather than stable-zimage and I think it read it before the new one |
| 04:57.18 | randomblame | because keyboard backlight is on and buttons are switched |
| 04:57.37 | randomblame | does haret work like that? just read the first several characters |
| 04:58.19 | F22 | which sounds like it's 0x3c if that's fn on the 300. |
| 04:58.47 | F22 | what's fn on the 300, is shift on everything else, including the 100. |
| 04:59.09 | WisTilt2 | ok im confused now... we need to deal with shift and ctrl also on 100 for these leds? |
| 04:59.09 | randomblame | fn is shift |
| 04:59.23 | randomblame | just different terminology right |
| 04:59.56 | WisTilt2 | if they have a caps and fn key thats the only 2 keys i need to get the codes for |
| 05:00.18 | randomblame | I think he's saying they have caps and shift |
| 05:00.24 | randomblame | a different word for fn |
| 05:00.26 | F22 | caps=shift |
| 05:00.40 | F22 | sorry |
| 05:00.54 | F22 | i tend to use the two words interchangeably. |
| 05:01.17 | F22 | because the layout docs do too. |
| 05:02.25 | WisTilt2 | i think im making a kernel for a 100 user to run and get the codes for those keys to be sure. they just need to hit caps and fn and read the values from dmesg and we're good |
| 05:03.04 | F22 | Wis, let me ask you this question. what's the value for caps on the non 200's that you have? |
| 05:03.14 | F22 | the hex value |
| 05:04.15 | WisTilt2 | 0x3b |
| 05:04.50 | WisTilt2 | fn is 0x3c |
| 05:05.05 | F22 | er i meant non-300's up there. |
| 05:05.12 | WisTilt2 | yeah i translated:) |
| 05:06.12 | arrrghhh | randomblame, it looks at your startup.txt, not sure what you mean. |
| 05:06.15 | WisTilt2 | actually thats wrong, those are the values for the 300 |
| 05:06.26 | WisTilt2 | all others are opposite |
| 05:06.46 | randomblame | arrrghhh it loaded my old kernel which was named zImage-stable rather than the new one named zImage |
| 05:06.50 | randomblame | really odd |
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| 05:07.02 | F22 | ahhh, i was wondering about that... |
| 05:07.06 | randomblame | I changed the name to stable-zImage and that changed it |
| 05:07.11 | randomblame | now it's booting from the new one |
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| 05:07.34 | randomblame | fn and caps lights are correct on my 300 |
| 05:08.00 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh those lights are correct on your 400 with that kernel correct? |
| 05:08.07 | F22 | WisTilt2: They're reversed in the keylayouts too, just as i'd pretty much expect. |
| 05:08.28 | randomblame | keyboard backlight is working too I thought you said that was disabled |
| 05:08.39 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, yup |
| 05:08.44 | WisTilt2 | F22: thats because the 300, ie Tilt2 IS the only legit rhod:) |
| 05:08.51 | WisTilt2 | so all others are backwards |
| 05:09.12 | randomblame | yep my 300 has an official htc rhodium notary mark on the back |
| 05:09.13 | F22 | so for caps, 100 would match the non-300's, which is 0x3c, and be the opp of what's on the 300. |
| 05:09.16 | WisTilt2 | keyboard backlight not changed, thought you meant the button lights randomblame |
| 05:09.21 | randomblame | ah |
| 05:10.07 | randomblame | the other rhods lights are reversed because they were shipped mostly to markets where you drive on the wrong side of the road |
| 05:10.16 | F22 | the problem is fn....that's a different key on the 100. it would match whatever the ok key is on the 300. |
| 05:10.39 | WisTilt2 | so caps is working correct on the 100's as it is now? |
| 05:10.51 | F22 | arrrghhh? ^^^^? |
| 05:11.15 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, afaik yes |
| 05:11.32 | arrrghhh | based on previous posts in mah thread, yes. |
| 05:11.58 | WisTilt2 | ok then ill code the fn key on the 100 to match the value of the 300 ok key and we should work |
| 05:12.09 | F22 | sounds like a plan |
| 05:12.35 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh ya got a 100 user we can try this on in a few mins or are they all sleeping |
| 05:12.55 | arrrghhh | none really come on here |
| 05:13.02 | arrrghhh | despite me whining that we don't have any 100 testers :P |
| 05:13.20 | arrrghhh | soooo i can post it up or pm a 100 user i know. |
| 05:13.48 | WisTilt2 | F22: ok key on the 300 is 0x39 |
| 05:14.05 | WisTilt2 | so that should be the same code we see with the 100's fn key? |
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| 05:14.43 | F22 | WisTilt2: right, they match up positionally |
| 05:15.14 | F22 | In the key layouts, are always dependent on position |
| 05:15.49 | F22 | tilt2 has its fn and caps keys positionally reversed from the 210, 400, 500, etc.. |
| 05:16.18 | F22 | i've never seen an exception on the rhod. |
| 05:17.53 | WisTilt2 | is the 300 the only rhod with the ok key? |
| 05:17.58 | F22 | i expect somewhere in the kernel the ok key on the tilt2 and the fn key on the 100 are both translated to the scan code that the key layout uses, and that's 215. |
| 05:18.05 | F22 | WisTilt2: yes |
| 05:18.20 | WisTilt2 | randomblame do you ever use your ok key for anything? |
| 05:19.06 | F22 | i assigned the ok key on the 300 to ctrl in my rootfs. ;) |
| 05:20.31 | WisTilt2 | oh yeah and i liked that when i tested it:) been testing the latest rootfs, which btw, still doesnt have the underscore working:( |
| 05:20.46 | F22 | is that the only thing not working? |
| 05:20.49 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: nudge nudge |
| 05:20.59 | WisTilt2 | only thing that i use and noticed |
| 05:21.30 | F22 | i thought i went through all those with pohket, but we may have missed it. i'll take a look at it. |
| 05:22.26 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: wistilt2-kernel-pack-rhod100-caps-fn.zip for someone on a 100 to try |
| 05:22.33 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 05:22.39 | arrrghhh | reboot time, brb. |
| 05:22.59 | WisTilt2 | F22: the latest frx04 rootfs? |
| 05:24.24 | randomblame | wistilt2: nope no idea what the ok button does |
| 05:24.29 | randomblame | I assume it agrees with someone |
| 05:24.31 | F22 | i haven't submitted my stuff to stinebd yet. but my posted rootfs has all the latest frx04 rootfs commits. |
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| 05:24.40 | randomblame | and I'm not agreeable |
| 05:25.08 | WisTilt2 | F22: actually i just tried all the top row keys and both underscore and ! do not work. underscore looks like a tab |
| 05:26.11 | randomblame | both those keys work on my rootfs wistilt2 |
| 05:26.22 | WisTilt2 | which one you running? |
| 05:26.29 | randomblame | f22's latest |
| 05:26.29 | F22 | hmmm....probably because the keycode for tab is being used. i expected there may be some issues on the 300 when some of these keycodes that didn't do anything before started working. |
| 05:26.32 | randomblame | as of like yesterday |
| 05:26.38 | WisTilt2 | yeah, im using frx04 latest |
| 05:26.50 | randomblame | that explains it |
| 05:27.44 | F22 | the person who created the keymap for the 300 assigned the keycode for tab to the underscore since there isn't a keycode for underscore, and apparently the fuze was already using the keycode for tab as underscore. |
| 05:28.17 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: i also included a dmesg output for any key pressed just in case their leds dont work right so we can get correct values if needed. |
| 05:28.40 | arrrghhh | k |
| 05:28.50 | F22 | i can fix that easily enough. there are other keycodes that really don't do anything. like grave. |
| 05:30.01 | WisTilt2 | ok while we wait for a 100 tester im going back to setting up the battery stuff, im holding up jonpry:) |
| 05:30.18 | arrrghhh | hehe |
| 05:30.22 | arrrghhh | don't want to hold that up bro! |
| 05:30.58 | F22 | the ! key actually has the keycode FOCUS which is for the camera... :P |
| 05:31.01 | WisTilt2 | i can multitask, friday night, lots to drink so im in coding mode |
| 05:31.26 | arrrghhh | is doing his taxes |
| 05:31.27 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:31.56 | WisTilt2 | i let our cpa do that:) i stay as far away from that as possible |
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| 05:55.24 | WisTilt2 | sure nice without the system server problem |
| 05:59.46 | F22 | you can say that again WisTilt2. |
| 06:00.52 | WisTilt2 | makes a world of difference when you're making so many changes and having to reboot to test every few minutes. |
| 06:01.42 | F22 | :) |
| 06:02.12 | F22 | http://www.mediafire.com/?oude1t98ks6yvu6 <--- new rootfs with _ and ! hopefully fixed. |
| 06:02.28 | F22 | for the 300 that is. |
| 06:06.05 | ejmiv89 | hmm |
| 06:07.23 | WisTilt2 | nice. i will test it on the next boot of this battery code im patiently working on... |
| 06:07.34 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 06:14.41 | randomblame | can not stop playing pocket empires online |
| 06:15.49 | F22 | randomblame, you have a 300 and were running my latest rootfs also? |
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| 06:15.57 | randomblame | yes f22 |
| 06:16.09 | F22 | and you had no trouble with ! and _ ? |
| 06:16.12 | randomblame | 2/10 |
| 06:16.14 | randomblame | nope |
| 06:16.16 | randomblame | no trouble |
| 06:16.31 | F22 | what system package are you running? |
| 06:16.38 | randomblame | wistilt2 was running frx04's rootfs I think wasn't he |
| 06:16.54 | randomblame | I'm on frx04 with your rootfs |
| 06:17.03 | randomblame | and it works properly |
| 06:17.08 | F22 | interesting. |
| 06:17.43 | F22 | i suspect that something about some builds is causing the the tab and focus keycodes to assert special properties, but not in other builds. |
| 06:18.06 | randomblame | who besides wis was having trouble? |
| 06:18.42 | F22 | awhile back pohket complained to me about those keys not working, but then when he actually tried my rootfs out, those keys worked fine. i had not changed a thing regarding those keys however. |
| 06:18.55 | randomblame | blame tiad if it is broken |
| 06:19.00 | F22 | lol |
| 06:19.04 | randomblame | it seems to work fine on frx04 |
| 06:19.11 | F22 | he sent me an interesting pm yesterday. |
| 06:19.32 | randomblame | did he ask for permission to use your rootfs? |
| 06:20.15 | randomblame | or did he call your mamma a bad name |
| 06:20.33 | F22 | better, he's asking me if it's possible to merge viruscrazy's camera kernel with the latest stock kernel. |
| 06:20.39 | randomblame | lol |
| 06:20.51 | randomblame | sure there is |
| 06:20.52 | randomblame | once it's committed |
| 06:22.32 | F22 | right, exactly |
| 06:22.33 | randomblame | he just doesn't know up from down |
| 06:22.33 | randomblame | all he knows is how to move files around in a build |
| 06:22.53 | arrrghhh | F22, that's awesome. |
| 06:23.03 | arrrghhh | yea i think he took that huawei rom |
| 06:23.07 | arrrghhh | put blazn on it |
| 06:23.10 | arrrghhh | and changed the background |
| 06:23.14 | arrrghhh | and added some apk's. |
| 06:23.25 | arrrghhh | oh yea, and made the bootani a sprint logo LOL |
| 06:23.33 | arrrghhh | that crap should be pulled IMHO |
| 06:23.55 | randomblame | it's nice that he's trying I suppose |
| 06:24.01 | F22 | well there's certainly room for a chef or two, especially with reef only semi-active. *cough*blazn*cough* |
| 06:24.08 | arrrghhh | seriously |
| 06:24.13 | arrrghhh | more like mostly inactive |
| 06:24.24 | arrrghhh | but i must reboot. shoulda done it a while ago, but mah taxes are now done :D |
| 06:24.45 | randomblame | the problem with "chefs" is this isn't winmo and we don't have a stable build at the moment so his stuff is causing issues during testing and troubleshooting |
| 06:25.07 | randomblame | live and let live I guess |
| 06:25.18 | F22 | true enough |
| 06:26.02 | randomblame | all that said - I wouldn't mind a version of frx with sense tacked on |
| 06:26.09 | F22 | i have a real issue with his style of salesmanship it sets off my BS meter big time, but a lot of users like his "energy & excitement". |
| 06:26.22 | F22 | different strokes for different folks i guess. |
| 06:26.59 | randomblame | hehe yeah he says "I'm not a dev" but I fixed this and that and those and oh btw thanks to these other guys who did all the work |
| 06:27.05 | F22 | his sense x build is actually a pretty good idea. |
| 06:27.35 | randomblame | that the one that disables wireless when it's not in use? |
| 06:27.42 | randomblame | I think that would tick me off |
| 06:28.03 | F22 | i don't either, but i think he was turning off data too if i recall correctly. |
| 06:28.42 | randomblame | that is a good idea - just so long as there's nothing we want using it running in standby |
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| 06:29.09 | F22 | *cough*notifications*cough* |
| 06:29.23 | randomblame | it should have a charger status hook in it |
| 06:29.37 | randomblame | if it's plugged in data and wifi should not be shut down |
| 06:29.56 | randomblame | that would make it perfect |
| 06:30.29 | F22 | given that i like my weather and gmail updates....i don't like having data shut off unless i do it. |
| 06:30.53 | randomblame | yeah - there you go the settings menu is always at our disposal |
| 06:33.15 | manekineko | what's a good idea in his sense x build? |
| 06:33.39 | randomblame | the fact that we don't have to install it |
| 06:34.29 | manekineko | hah |
| 06:34.37 | F22 | the good idea is offering a sense build. lol. |
| 06:34.59 | randomblame | hehe yep frx05 should have a reference build and a sense build |
| 06:35.00 | manekineko | I understand it's based off of someone else's old one, but it is nice that someone is keeping a sense build up to date |
| 06:35.26 | randomblame | I wonder if there's a way to bundle sense up into an apk |
| 06:35.32 | F22 | i hear the newer versions of sense run dog slow on rhod. |
| 06:35.48 | randomblame | that's probably true rhod isn't the fastest horse on the track |
| 06:35.57 | manekineko | it's hard to imagine it running well |
| 06:36.03 | manekineko | it doesn't even run well on the Hero |
| 06:36.04 | F22 | i recall ACL complaining about that while back. he tried, and it didn't like the result. |
| 06:36.28 | randomblame | I can't wait till sunday - I'll be able to see the new new version of sense running on my inspire |
| 06:36.53 | randomblame | and then I'll probably quickly change it to adw |
| 06:37.14 | F22 | inspire is a nice phone. i just wish at&t had released it back in august or september when the desire hd first came out. |
| 06:37.20 | randomblame | yep |
| 06:37.31 | randomblame | at&t blows |
| 06:37.32 | F22 | i might have actually gotten it then. |
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| 06:37.52 | manekineko | wow at&t is releasing an update for a phone? I didn't think they did that |
| 06:37.59 | F22 | is at&t still blocking sideloading? |
| 06:38.02 | randomblame | I'll probably sell it as soon as something nicer comes along |
| 06:38.07 | randomblame | yeah they are blocking sideloading |
| 06:38.15 | F22 | which phone are they updating? the captivate? |
| 06:38.18 | F22 | or the aria? |
| 06:38.31 | randomblame | but aparently some of the guys who have been getting their inspires earlier found a way around the sideloading limitation |
| 06:38.41 | manekineko | oh didn't randomblame say they were updating his inspire? |
| 06:39.02 | F22 | inspire is a brand new release. |
| 06:39.04 | randomblame | inspire isn't out yet |
| 06:39.06 | randomblame | comes out sunday |
| 06:39.13 | manekineko | lol oh i see |
| 06:39.18 | randomblame | it's a brand new clone of the desire hd |
| 06:39.20 | manekineko | so no updates still then |
| 06:39.39 | F22 | kind of pitiful that at&t hasn't updated a single android phone yet. |
| 06:39.46 | randomblame | it's expected |
| 06:39.58 | manekineko | well they're gonna have to step up their game now that they no longer have the iPhone exclusive |
| 06:40.10 | F22 | yup |
| 06:40.34 | randomblame | they're stepping up - they're releasing the atrix on the 6th with a locked bootloader |
| 06:40.38 | randomblame | yay at&t |
| 06:40.52 | manekineko | hah well to be fair Motorola is pretty into locking bootloaders without AT&T too |
| 06:40.54 | F22 | atrix is a very nice phone |
| 06:41.05 | randomblame | it is |
| 06:41.14 | F22 | love the dual core, love the laptop and desktop docking ideas. |
| 06:41.14 | randomblame | if you don't care that you're stuck with the software it ships with |
| 06:41.25 | randomblame | and whatever market apps at&t decides you can have |
| 06:41.32 | XirXes | eww motorola |
| 06:41.41 | F22 | that blows, but i'll be surprised if it doesn't get hacked eventually. |
| 06:41.59 | randomblame | the idea of the docking is nice - the $500 standalone price of the laptop dock is hillarious |
| 06:42.10 | randomblame | yeah eventually it might |
| 06:42.16 | randomblame | but I'm not waiting till eventually happens |
| 06:42.29 | F22 | that is ridiculous, i thought the doc was 150, but hopefully if it's 500 it will come down in price. |
| 06:42.29 | randomblame | I'll get inspire and sell it if atrix gets hacked and trade up |
| 06:42.39 | randomblame | the dock is 199 I think |
| 06:42.57 | F22 | ok |
| 06:42.57 | randomblame | the netbook attachment is much more + you have to pay for tethering to use it |
| 06:43.09 | F22 | eeewww... |
| 06:43.14 | randomblame | even though it's the phone doing all the work there is nothing in the laptop |
| 06:43.26 | randomblame | you're paying to tether your phone to your phone... |
| 06:43.34 | randomblame | that's just dirty |
| 06:44.01 | F22 | at&t has enough congestion issues with all those iphones, selling a lot of atrixes would crush their network. |
| 06:44.13 | randomblame | yep |
| 06:44.22 | randomblame | they're marketing atrix and inspire as 4g |
| 06:44.29 | randomblame | and hspa+ doesn't come online till march |
| 06:45.21 | randomblame | a million ignorant consumers will fall for it too |
| 06:45.37 | F22 | tmobile's hspa+ is better than at&t's. at&t doesn't know what it's doing. its lte network is late to the party, so they're putting up just enough hspa+ to say they have 4g without really being serious about it. |
| 06:45.53 | randomblame | yeah |
| 06:46.01 | manekineko | well, bad service isn't really a surprise to any AT&T customers anyway |
| 06:46.11 | randomblame | I can guarantee I will never find a tower that actually gives me hspa+ speeds |
| 06:46.18 | randomblame | not in my area |
| 06:46.33 | randomblame | lol manekineko true enough |
| 06:46.59 | F22 | tmobile is at least making a serious effort with hspa+, and for the time being hspa+'s speeds are competitive. the only issue i think is that hspa+ degrades more rapidly when congested. however, tmo's network isn't congested so...they can get away with it. |
| 06:47.44 | randomblame | I'm just happy to get a new shiny toy to fiddle with |
| 06:47.56 | F22 | most of the comparison tests i've seen point to tmo having the highest speeds currently. |
| 06:48.08 | randomblame | tmo faster than verizons lte? |
| 06:48.28 | F22 | where tmo is fully tricked out, yes. |
| 06:48.44 | randomblame | not like anyone can really afford to take advantage of the speed anyways |
| 06:48.46 | F22 | i expect verizon will eventually scale up those speeds however. |
| 06:49.04 | randomblame | at&t is removing our grandfathered unlimited data plan and replacing it with the capped one |
| 06:49.18 | F22 | tmo has the advantage of jumping on mature tech late in the game. so their upgrade costs are minimal. |
| 06:49.39 | randomblame | aparently I can only download 250mb per month from now on |
| 06:49.58 | F22 | tmo's real issue is that their network footprint isn't as large as their competitors. |
| 06:50.06 | F22 | if you just compare "4G" they look good. |
| 06:50.27 | F22 | but if you compare 3G, their coverage doesn't look anywhere as good as Verizon's. |
| 06:50.35 | randomblame | tmobile in my area is very poorly covered |
| 06:50.44 | F22 | right, exactly. |
| 06:50.51 | randomblame | no one here gets tmobile service |
| 06:51.02 | randomblame | unless you're outside on a main street |
| 06:51.10 | F22 | where they have coverage they're often the fastest. problem is that there are too many places they don't have coverage. |
| 06:51.27 | randomblame | or worse poor coverage |
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| 06:52.15 | F22 | well poor coverage often means you're on the edge of covered territory so the signal isn't very good. |
| 06:52.22 | randomblame | I went with them before at&t and found they had lousy coverage here so I canceled the contract within my buyers remorses period and they charged me 250 bucks anyways for customer service fees |
| 06:52.53 | F22 | at&t's network is definitely bigger than tmo's. |
| 06:53.05 | randomblame | yeah I always have service with big blue |
| 06:54.46 | F22 | take my area as a comparison. a year ago at&t had 3G in my area, tmobile had no coverage at all. Now tmobile has "4g" in my area, at&t still has just "3g". But that 3g is over a larger area. i can go into the nearby towns and still get 3g on at&t. on tmo i lose my data connection entirely. |
| 06:56.22 | F22 | there are parts of this country where only one carrier has coverage (most often verizon), and even parts of this country where no carriers have coverage. |
| 06:56.23 | randomblame | yeah I had service with tmobile till I went inside my house or drove to a nearby town |
| 06:56.49 | randomblame | f22 - there are always sattelites in the sky |
| 06:57.06 | F22 | true, if you want it badly enough, there are always options |
| 06:57.10 | randomblame | I want a satelite phone just in case we go egypt |
| 06:57.21 | randomblame | I need mah interwebs |
| 06:57.24 | F22 | egypt? lol |
| 06:57.38 | F22 | i hear their "pharoah" has finally thrown in the towel. |
| 06:57.38 | randomblame | yeah they shut down the internet in the whole country |
| 06:58.03 | randomblame | didn't hear about that? |
| 06:59.08 | WisTilt2 | randomblame where did you hear about at&t removing grandfathered data plans? ive been with them since day 1 but i guarantee you if they remove our unlimited data they will lose all my business. 250megs a month, give me a break |
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| 06:59.43 | randomblame | that's what radioshack told me |
| 06:59.56 | randomblame | and an at&t rep at the mall |
| 07:00.29 | randomblame | I break 250mb by the 2nd |
| 07:00.31 | F22 | i really don't think at&t is dumb enough to ditch those grandfathered plans. |
| 07:00.43 | randomblame | I think they're smart enough to try :D |
| 07:00.47 | F22 | if they do it, it won't be until verizon switches to a metered plan themselves. |
| 07:01.01 | WisTilt2 | i think they're full of it. i know all new service falls under the capped service but legally they cannot change plans prior to those dates |
| 07:01.49 | randomblame | they told me I could pay 15 per month for 250mb or the same amount ($30) for 1gb |
| 07:02.00 | arrrghhh | bedtime |
| 07:02.06 | WisTilt2 | nite arrrghhh |
| 07:02.10 | arrrghhh | thx WisTilt2 |
| 07:02.12 | arrrghhh | g'nite guys |
| 07:02.17 | randomblame | night arrrrghhh |
| 07:02.30 | WisTilt2 | get those 100 users on that kernel |
| 07:02.33 | F22 | g'nite arrrghhh |
| 07:02.35 | manekineko | does logcat get captured automatically on system crash somewhere the way dmesgs are captured in dropbox/system_last_kmsg? |
| 07:03.08 | WisTilt2 | randomblame, were you on their unlimited plan and they changed it or just said that was going to happen? |
| 07:03.29 | randomblame | they said they would change it when I upgraded my phone |
| 07:03.40 | randomblame | from my unlimited data plan to the capped one |
| 07:04.02 | randomblame | I'm gonna go in on sunday and pitch a fit and see what happens |
| 07:04.07 | F22 | don't go through radio shack then. |
| 07:04.20 | randomblame | the at&t rep told me the same thing |
| 07:04.24 | randomblame | at the at&t store |
| 07:04.36 | F22 | i know amazon has great deals on at&t phones and all you need to do is extend your existing contract for 2 years. |
| 07:04.51 | F22 | oh, in that case call up retentions. |
| 07:05.06 | randomblame | it's possible none of them know what they're talking about or they're being offered an incentive to switch unlimited plans to the capped ones |
| 07:05.10 | WisTilt2 | hmm, probably some legal loophole they are using since you're changing devices. they pull that crap on our phones and at&t will not only lose all our cell business but also our main gigabit fiber backbone we pay them a huge amount for each month |
| 07:05.15 | randomblame | through the consent of unwitting customers |
| 07:05.43 | F22 | yeah, i'd call up retentions and threaten to drop them if they didn't continue my plan. |
| 07:06.08 | F22 | retentions can often do things for you that ordinary sales and customer service reps can't. |
| 07:06.08 | randomblame | yeah I'm going to get on the phone tomorrow and make sure I can upgrade without changing plans |
| 07:06.18 | randomblame | otherwise verizon might be in my future |
| 07:06.42 | randomblame | thunderbolt is nicer than inspire |
| 07:07.01 | WisTilt2 | those bozos at the at&t stores barely know how to work their computers let alone know much about their own plans. |
| 07:07.14 | F22 | lol, i'll second that statement. |
| 07:07.25 | randomblame | hehe yep they're worse than mcdonalds employees |
| 07:07.40 | randomblame | mcdonalds employees paid on commission |
| 07:07.48 | randomblame | imagine the chaos |
| 07:08.22 | WisTilt2 | if they actually say they will be capping your service i'd tell them thanks, moving to sprint or tmobile or whatever. they really dont like to hear that and will pretty much do whatever to keep you as a customer. |
| 07:08.42 | randomblame | yep that's plan A |
| 07:09.12 | F22 | yep, that's why i said to talk to retentions. |
| 07:09.37 | F22 | retentions is the dept they transfer you to when you tell them you want to terminate service. |
| 07:09.56 | randomblame | yeah I tried that with comcast once |
| 07:10.06 | F22 | don't get me started with comcast... |
| 07:10.08 | randomblame | they just sent out a van to collect my cable box |
| 07:10.17 | F22 | i call comcast retentions every six months... |
| 07:10.18 | randomblame | since they have no compitition they know I"ll come back |
| 07:10.19 | WisTilt2 | they tried to nearly double our backbone cost at the end of one of our 3yr terms sometime ago and i told them mci wanted our business and was actually cheaper. we ended up getting another 20% discount for the next contract. |
| 07:10.49 | randomblame | hehe I did the same with my bussiness line |
| 07:10.55 | WisTilt2 | they may be big but their shareholders dont want to see customer numbers drop |
| 07:10.59 | F22 | every six months i tell comcast i want to quit when they raise my rate, and they immediately give me another 6 month sweetheart deal. |
| 07:11.11 | WisTilt2 | yep, works every time |
| 07:11.21 | randomblame | f22 - is there another cable company in your area? |
| 07:11.46 | randomblame | best I can ever get out of them is 30 bucks off and free hbo for a few months |
| 07:11.48 | F22 | theoretically we should have fios in the near future |
| 07:12.09 | F22 | it isn't live yet. |
| 07:12.14 | randomblame | we have fios here downtown |
| 07:12.15 | F22 | i suppose you could go dish network |
| 07:12.22 | randomblame | no thanks |
| 07:12.29 | randomblame | 2 year contracts are not my bag |
| 07:12.31 | F22 | yep, we have fios downtown too. |
| 07:12.45 | F22 | they just haven't expanded fios to my area yet. |
| 07:12.50 | fish1209 | randomblame, comcast are crafty they buy the rights to eliminate competition atleast in my area they did this |
| 07:13.12 | randomblame | yep they did it in my area, only the center of town has options |
| 07:13.25 | F22 | comcast always does that. i had a former employer who start small cable companies just so comcast would eventually buy him out. he'd make millions every time. :P |
| 07:13.37 | fish1209 | heh |
| 07:14.04 | randomblame | we should do that wifi to wifi android isp built on the xda userbase ha |
| 07:14.35 | randomblame | we'd have to use a lot of tin foil on our handhelds to link up |
| 07:14.40 | fish1209 | lol |
| 07:14.42 | F22 | lol |
| 07:16.26 | randomblame | night guys |
| 07:16.34 | randomblame | it's time to sit on the couch for a few hours |
| 07:16.34 | fish1209 | night |
| 07:17.27 | WisTilt2 | im out too. ill catch ya'll tomorrow night. |
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| 10:56.10 | Cotulla | apt die |
| 10:56.11 | apt | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
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| 11:49.12 | gauner1986 | hi |
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| 13:06.04 | dan1j3l | hi |
| 13:06.36 | gauner1986 | hi |
| 13:06.49 | dan1j3l | Markinus: did u have problems with compiling kernel with latest changes ? |
| 13:07.44 | Markinus | hi |
| 13:07.56 | Markinus | after your commit? |
| 13:07.58 | Markinus | no tested |
| 13:07.59 | Markinus | moment |
| 13:08.03 | dan1j3l | no, before |
| 13:08.19 | dan1j3l | i spent almost 2 hours fixing damn netfilter |
| 13:10.02 | Markinus | no, bevore it worked without problem. . |
| 13:11.21 | dan1j3l | hmm... strange... i pulled your latest changes from git and after that bunch of errors while trying to compile... |
| 13:12.03 | dan1j3l | like there was mix of different versions of netfilter and their dependencies... |
| 13:13.06 | Markinus | dan1j3l: no, compiled without any problems |
| 13:13.32 | dan1j3l | with my commit or ? |
| 13:13.38 | Markinus | both |
| 13:13.46 | dan1j3l | ok, nice... :) |
| 13:14.07 | dan1j3l | i will review driver one more time later.. |
| 13:14.14 | Markinus | do you use our config or your own? |
| 13:14.14 | dan1j3l | and clean it up... |
| 13:14.26 | dan1j3l | i use htcleo_defconfig |
| 13:14.30 | Markinus | ok, starnge |
| 13:15.04 | dan1j3l | yeah, driver was new but headers were from older incompatible version... |
| 13:15.20 | Markinus | hmm |
| 13:15.28 | dan1j3l | did u merge with another tree ? |
| 13:17.16 | dan1j3l | i think i will do diff later against my older revision to see what changed... |
| 13:18.08 | dan1j3l | btw. how's wiki cleaning ? :) |
| 13:19.33 | dan1j3l | every day they create 5 new users and post/update at least 10 pages... |
| 13:19.47 | Cotulla | ow |
| 13:19.52 | Cotulla | dcordes ^^ |
| 13:21.05 | dan1j3l | not enough admins to clean up crap from wiki... :p |
| 13:22.32 | Markinus | dan1j3l: yeah, but this have dcordes to do |
| 13:22.45 | Markinus | with the normal ways it would be take hours to remove them all |
| 13:22.48 | Markinus | or days |
| 13:23.48 | dan1j3l | i know... small php script with spam detection that will clean up database... |
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| 15:43.49 | dan1j3l | Markinus: what's kernel version of your host machine (where u compile kernel) ? |
| 15:44.54 | Markinus | 2.6.32-24-generic |
| 15:45.08 | Markinus | gcc version 4.4.3 |
| 15:45.16 | dan1j3l | heh... i thought so... |
| 15:45.40 | dan1j3l | that's why i have prob. with netfilter :) |
| 15:45.40 | Markinus | latest kubuntu . . |
| 15:45.47 | Markinus | hehe ;) |
| 15:45.58 | dan1j3l | i have 2.6.35-26-generic |
| 15:46.10 | Markinus | gcc? |
| 15:46.17 | Markinus | I think this is the difference |
| 15:46.47 | dan1j3l | 4.4.5 |
| 15:46.50 | Cotulla | wtf? |
| 15:46.52 | Cotulla | how it related? |
| 15:46.55 | Markinus | the kernel of the host shouldn't be relevant |
| 15:47.03 | Markinus | right gcc no too |
| 15:47.16 | Markinus | which cross compiler are you using? |
| 15:47.37 | dan1j3l | but apparently it is, at least for some headers... |
| 15:48.01 | dan1j3l | arm-2010q1 |
| 15:48.06 | Markinus | dan1j3l: hmm, no, it's closed |
| 15:48.09 | Markinus | me woo |
| 15:48.10 | Markinus | hmm |
| 15:48.12 | Markinus | too |
| 15:48.48 | dan1j3l | but today tried to compile my older revision (i had backup on my other hdd) and same problems |
| 15:49.10 | dan1j3l | and that revision was ok when i was on older kernel |
| 16:01.21 | dan1j3l | bbl |
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| 16:20.59 | [acl] | jonpry: good to see you on again bro |
| 16:24.04 | jonpry | hey man |
| 16:27.34 | [acl] | jonpry: new computer ? |
| 16:27.48 | jonpry | indeed, fastest computer in grenada |
| 16:28.04 | [acl] | nice |
| 16:28.24 | jonpry | my god i just woke up, 12:30 here, feeling kind of out of it |
| 16:28.42 | jonpry | i forgot how well linux doesn't work on new hardware |
| 16:28.42 | [acl] | 1 hour ahead.. |
| 16:28.59 | [acl] | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.17 | jonpry | and linux doesn't work well either? |
| 16:29.22 | [acl] | but at work we have all sorts of issues with new machines |
| 16:29.33 | [acl] | i guess because we have ati video cards and fglrx is a piece of shit |
| 16:29.45 | jonpry | yeah, i have same problem |
| 16:29.54 | jonpry | but i think the big issue is the ACPI bios |
| 16:30.22 | jonpry | fglrx is just slow and buggy |
| 16:35.35 | Cotulla | hey |
| 16:35.38 | Cotulla | ^^ |
| 16:35.45 | [acl] | Cotulla: hey dood |
| 16:35.52 | Cotulla | I flashed it :P |
| 16:35.57 | [acl] | nice nice |
| 16:35.58 | jonpry | i heard Cotulla has rhod now |
| 16:36.01 | Cotulla | and it boots from first attempt |
| 16:36.02 | [acl] | yeah dood |
| 16:36.02 | jonpry | and magldr |
| 16:36.06 | Cotulla | I chocked |
| 16:36.37 | Cotulla | but need to fix usb |
| 16:36.37 | jonpry | can you swap amss on rhod? |
| 16:36.56 | Cotulla | maybe I can...but too many versions |
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| 16:37.04 | [acl] | Cotulla: there is a tear in my eye... |
| 16:37.09 | [acl] | tear of happyness |
| 16:37.35 | Cotulla | I cloned branch btw on git |
| 16:38.14 | Cotulla | http://gitorious.org/~cotulla/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/ctll-linux-rho-tpz |
| 16:38.17 | Cotulla | this is mine now :) |
| 16:38.49 | [acl] | Cotulla: this the main ? |
| 16:38.57 | Cotulla | yeah clone of main |
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| 16:39.12 | Cotulla | It more stable I though |
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| 16:39.13 | Cotulla | right? |
| 16:39.26 | [acl] | Cotulla: damn so we gotta monitor this for patches ? or ull tell us ? |
| 16:39.29 | [acl] | :-) |
| 16:39.43 | Cotulla | will tell I hope |
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| 16:40.07 | [acl] | haha |
| 16:40.59 | Cotulla | compiled kernel already |
| 16:41.24 | [acl] | ok so get camera and bt in there please |
| 16:41.25 | [acl] | :-p |
| 16:41.43 | Cotulla | I need prepare userspace android |
| 16:44.06 | Cotulla | I though TPZ & RHO are more common |
| 16:45.04 | [acl] | you thought wrong dood |
| 16:45.20 | Cotulla | :P |
| 16:45.48 | jonpry | vogue is more common |
| 16:46.24 | Cotulla | vogue? |
| 16:46.27 | Cotulla | it's old |
| 16:46.59 | jonpry | isn't it msm72k? |
| 16:47.23 | Cotulla | there TI instead of BCM in TPZ |
| 16:47.28 | Cotulla | I though also |
| 16:47.30 | Cotulla | BCM |
| 16:47.46 | jonpry | wtf, looks like omap on gsm and msm75k on cdma |
| 16:48.23 | Cotulla | wtf??? |
| 16:48.34 | Cotulla | weed was good, definitely |
| 16:48.44 | [acl] | lol |
| 16:48.51 | Cotulla | there Calypso? |
| 16:49.37 | Cotulla | hm somebody clear my new MPU settings O_o |
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| 16:56.01 | [acl] | Cotulla: aite dood i gotta go |
| 16:56.04 | [acl] | its my moms bday |
| 16:56.07 | [acl] | promised a visit |
| 16:56.13 | [acl] | so i need to head out |
| 16:56.15 | Cotulla | okay |
| 16:56.16 | Cotulla | bb |
| 16:56.45 | [acl] | jonpry: ill ttyl.. look into the .35 bro.. |
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| 17:04.43 | MassStash | still no data lmiller? |
| 17:07.05 | L_miller | Nope. I see the 3G icon but this is it. :( |
| 17:07.23 | L_miller | It's probaly my system... |
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| 18:23.09 | Gingerbread | gingebread installation |
| 18:23.29 | Gingerbread | How do you install it, i'm going to post bugs |
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| 19:03.01 | MassStash | do i need anything different in my gingerbread user.conf? |
| 19:04.18 | arrrghhh | no |
| 19:04.34 | arrrghhh | is it not booting? |
| 19:06.34 | arrrghhh | crap |
| 19:06.39 | arrrghhh | i can't calibrate with 1253 wtf |
| 19:06.57 | arrrghhh | so much for posting this build quickly. |
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| 19:17.40 | imilka | what are you doing? :) |
| 19:24.15 | arrrghhh | things |
| 19:24.18 | arrrghhh | horrible, horrible things. |
| 19:25.44 | Cotulla | HEY |
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| 19:27.03 | arrrghhh | howdy sir Cotulla |
| 19:27.26 | Cotulla | NICE |
| 19:27.34 | Cotulla | flashed MAGLDR directly now :P |
| 19:27.41 | Cotulla | fixed usb |
| 19:27.55 | Cotulla | now cloned kernel git and building it |
| 19:28.21 | imilka | directly to your brain? :) |
| 19:28.47 | arrrghhh | schweet |
| 19:28.50 | Cotulla | wtf imilka |
| 19:28.52 | Cotulla | to RHO |
| 19:28.52 | arrrghhh | don't listen to him |
| 19:29.02 | arrrghhh | he's like a small child |
| 19:29.07 | Cotulla | ya |
| 19:29.17 | arrrghhh | so it's going well? |
| 19:29.20 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 19:29.24 | arrrghhh | seems we got tinboot up too, ironically :P |
| 19:29.49 | Cotulla | but it was up a lot of time |
| 19:30.22 | arrrghhh | yes but it wasn't ported for tp2 :P |
| 19:31.53 | jonpry | hasn't tinboot been working forever? |
| 19:32.38 | Cotulla | yeah he worked forever |
| 19:32.47 | Cotulla | I tell to [acl] try 3D on nand |
| 19:32.49 | Cotulla | I remember |
| 19:32.51 | Cotulla | :P |
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| 20:45.54 | arrrghhh | damnit |
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| 20:58.37 | randomblame | damnwhat |
| 20:58.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | damnthat |
| 20:58.51 | arrrghhh | damnwho |
| 20:58.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | damnyou |
| 20:59.10 | randomblame | damnnn |
| 20:59.11 | arrrghhh | ah, i'm used to that. |
| 20:59.16 | arrrghhh | :D |
| 20:59.33 | Willd | /system/bin # ls |
| 20:59.34 | Willd | Segmentation fault |
| 20:59.37 | Willd | y plz? |
| 20:59.49 | arrrghhh | it's a samsung |
| 20:59.55 | Willd | arrrghhh: Tru dat |
| 20:59.59 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 21:00.13 | ocm | haha classic |
| 21:00.34 | Willd | Other than that, .35 is running *perfectly* |
| 21:00.35 | Willd | :D |
| 21:00.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | sounds like a memory layout problem |
| 21:01.00 | Willd | In recovery? :p |
| 21:01.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | in kernel |
| 21:01.32 | Willd | Could be, we haven't touched CMs base config, that's true |
| 21:01.37 | randomblame | gbx0a - hehe neato |
| 21:04.47 | arrrghhh | still need to get stine to host the bundle pack. |
| 21:05.03 | arrrghhh | might as well make an FRX04 thread as well. |
| 21:06.01 | randomblame | is stine all in now? no more frx? |
| 21:06.32 | arrrghhh | dunno |
| 21:06.48 | arrrghhh | i'm sure if there's some huge thing that needs to be fixed in frx04 he'll patch it |
| 21:06.53 | arrrghhh | but... otherwise, probably not. |
| 21:06.59 | randomblame | awesome |
| 21:07.17 | randomblame | moving on |
| 21:07.30 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 21:07.30 | randomblame | That kernel incompatibility is interesting though |
| 21:07.37 | arrrghhh | w/calib? |
| 21:08.09 | randomblame | you said it wasn't working with 1253 but it does work with 1225 |
| 21:08.20 | randomblame | or is that just to generate the calibration file |
| 21:09.41 | randomblame | oh I see my reading comprehension isn't up to par yet today |
| 21:11.19 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 21:11.24 | arrrghhh | just for calib |
| 21:11.39 | arrrghhh | text kinda overlays and blocks the calib from working |
| 21:11.47 | arrrghhh | someone committed something that just forgot about it basically lol |
| 21:13.03 | arrrghhh | i'm off to do a full house of FRX04 threads. |
| 21:13.08 | arrrghhh | hopefully reef doesn't get too pissed :P |
| 21:14.02 | randomblame | haha he might |
| 21:14.18 | randomblame | probably should link f22's rootfs |
| 21:15.24 | randomblame | then again that could confuse testers |
| 21:15.58 | randomblame | call it frx04.1 and throw in that rootfs and wis's kernel |
| 21:16.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | that msm gpio interrupt controller is pissing me off. i feel like giving up on all this android poop altogether.. |
| 21:17.04 | Willd | Alex[sp3dev]: poopio plz |
| 21:17.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | Willd: is that a verb or what? |
| 21:17.05 | Willd | poop-io! |
| 21:17.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | irq-poop |
| 21:17.29 | Willd | I mostly blurted it out, because of a coffein induced euphoria! |
| 21:18.10 | randomblame | caffeine? |
| 21:18.26 | Willd | Oh right |
| 21:18.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | poopein |
| 21:18.32 | Willd | koffein is the swedish name for it :# |
| 21:18.55 | randomblame | what's the sweedish name for bewbies |
| 21:19.06 | Willd | Bäbisar! |
| 21:19.11 | randomblame | beautiful! |
| 21:19.15 | Willd | I know right? |
| 21:19.33 | Willd | It's kind of onomateopoetic! |
| 21:19.51 | arrrghhh | randomblame, i already did link to f22's rootfs. |
| 21:19.52 | randomblame | big word |
| 21:20.03 | Willd | randomblame: One of my favourites actually! |
| 21:20.25 | randomblame | arrrghhh - good stuff system server RIP |
| 21:20.31 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 21:20.36 | arrrghhh | that's in the main rootfs too dude :P |
| 21:21.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | shit that android poop is taking so much time.. i guess i should just switch to a native linux device and start moving on and learn something new instead of this all. but right, i won't let msm pwn me this time |
| 21:23.39 | randomblame | alex- take an android laxitive |
| 21:23.46 | arrrghhh | ew |
| 21:24.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | fuck you |
| 21:24.09 | randomblame | I had fun trying to port the kernel to my incite |
| 21:24.12 | randomblame | I learned a lot |
| 21:24.17 | randomblame | gave up after about a year |
| 21:24.33 | randomblame | when I came to realize that there was no documentation or sample code for the lcd panel |
| 21:25.12 | randomblame | it was fun seeing console messages on that tiny screen though with my code running |
| 21:26.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | aite. i've been porting linux to many devices (asus p525, loox 720, x1). and am actually sick. first two are too old to run any modern distro or android.. and i really feel that learning some DSP and graphics would be a better use of time for me now.. |
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| 23:08.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | is my poop crew still here? |
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| 23:08.24 | randomblame | poopein |
| 23:10.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok. http://www.mediafire.com/?rz6lz3kpq557u5r here is what i have of LK right now. hardcoded for X1.. not properly handling gpio interrupts. i am sick to death of it and don't know what to do next. i welcome anyone to come in and continue developing.. i'll try to fix interrupts.. i won't be able - well.. then we'll make a really simple loader without UI and menu.. which will just boot nand or enter recovery depending on key pres |
| 23:10.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | sed |
| 23:13.13 | randomblame | that's strange |
| 23:13.40 | randomblame | do you have console messages for it |
| 23:14.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, framebuffer and dex are working. i wouldn't've given up on if i hadn't spent some three days debugging it |
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| 23:16.58 | randomblame | I remember having issues with gpio interrupts very early into that incite port |
| 23:17.04 | randomblame | can't for the life of me remember what resolved them |
| 23:17.30 | randomblame | let me look through the logs |
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| 23:27.02 | randomblame | hmm can't find it |
| 23:27.28 | arrrghhh | use the poop force |
| 23:27.31 | randomblame | I may have had to rearange the init |
| 23:27.37 | arrrghhh | poo force is mayabe more appropriate |
| 23:27.42 | randomblame | but that might have just been unrelated |
| 23:28.35 | randomblame | bah my git repo is embarrassing |
| 23:28.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | in the end, we can just make it select the boot mode depending on which keys were held during boot.. |
| 23:31.08 | randomblame | listen to this commit message "experimentizations (it's a word) with mddi interface" - its no wonder I can't find anything in this crap pile |
| 23:33.05 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:34.19 | randomblame | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/experimental-linux-msm-lg-incite |
| 23:34.31 | randomblame | there are all sorts of disgusting hacks and tweaks in there |
| 23:34.43 | randomblame | maybe one of them will break it enough that it works |
| 23:34.59 | randomblame | probably not |
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| 23:35.15 | randomblame | that's what happens when you take perfectly good code and hand it to randomblame |
| 23:36.08 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 23:38.55 | randomblame | sadly I think I may have forgotten C |
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| 23:43.34 | arrrghhh | if it makes you feel any better randomblame, C has forgotten you. |
| 23:47.03 | randomblame | It's probably for the best :D |
| 23:47.30 | arrrghhh | heh |
| 23:48.26 | randomblame | that poor thing had a 3in 240x320 screen |
| 23:48.57 | randomblame | er 240x400 |
| 23:49.05 | randomblame | still garbage |
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