| 00:00.16 | arrrghhh | more like WARGLEBLARGLE |
| 00:00.56 | randomblame | wargleblargle - that will strike fear into their hearts |
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| 00:01.32 | arrrghhh | indeed. |
| 00:01.59 | arrrghhh | OMGOMG |
| 00:02.02 | arrrghhh | dzo replied to my PM |
| 00:02.39 | stinebd | cease and desist? |
| 00:02.49 | arrrghhh | lmao not quite |
| 00:03.03 | arrrghhh | he was very friendly, but kindly said he doesn't have time to help. gave me some pointers tho. |
| 00:03.23 | stinebd | dd if=/dev/urandom of=system.ext2? |
| 00:03.32 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:03.36 | arrrghhh | tip of the day! |
| 00:05.07 | jimmy1987 | Arrrghhh: Found the culprit, it does that when google maps is updated, then the led goes awol ;p |
| 00:05.09 | hyc | still no green light here |
| 00:05.20 | arrrghhh | hyc, you're doing it wrong. |
| 00:05.24 | hyc | :P |
| 00:05.28 | arrrghhh | make sure no rogue apps running |
| 00:05.31 | arrrghhh | gps disabled |
| 00:05.32 | hyc | geniewidget was trying to update itself |
| 00:05.37 | arrrghhh | any loc disabled basically |
| 00:05.43 | arrrghhh | well there's your culprit. |
| 00:05.46 | hyc | I dragged it to trash but the process is still there |
| 00:06.07 | hyc | I would like to see a good startup manager bundled with the build |
| 00:06.16 | hyc | most of these apps running at startupo have no reason to |
| 00:06.23 | arrrghhh | startup manager? |
| 00:06.27 | hyc | and they just make startup slower |
| 00:06.28 | arrrghhh | lol tell google that. |
| 00:06.33 | jimmy1987 | :P |
| 00:06.54 | jimmy1987 | he wants something like msconfig in windows :P |
| 00:07.01 | hyc | there are a few on the market |
| 00:07.11 | hyc | I've got one running on my G1 that works mostly OK |
| 00:07.23 | hyc | but sometimes it crashes while trying to update the service DB. annoying. |
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| 00:07.51 | Eodun_ | darn disconnects |
| 00:08.29 | arrrghhh | jimmy1987, lol i know what he wants. |
| 00:08.39 | jimmy1987 | :P |
| 00:08.40 | arrrghhh | msconfig ftl. autoruns. |
| 00:08.42 | arrrghhh | if you must use windows ;) |
| 00:08.46 | jimmy1987 | hehe |
| 00:09.08 | jimmy1987 | The logic of Windows, press start to shutdown :) |
| 00:09.15 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 00:09.45 | arrrghhh | yea, drives me nuts when people ask me to show them linux, and the first thing they say is "where's the start button? how do i do anything?" |
| 00:09.58 | randomblame | hehe |
| 00:10.37 | randomblame | it's hard to explain the package system no one can figure out how to explain anything coming from windows |
| 00:10.47 | randomblame | explain = install |
| 00:11.29 | randomblame | stupid meds are making me dumber than usual |
| 00:11.37 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:11.55 | Eodun_ | try with less morphine |
| 00:12.12 | arrrghhh | usually after i explain how the repo's work 15 times, it clicks and they like it. |
| 00:12.15 | randomblame | Eodun_ that's just crazy |
| 00:12.19 | arrrghhh | but the first few times are bumpy. |
| 00:12.36 | randomblame | yeah I love the package manager in debian distros |
| 00:12.43 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 00:12.51 | Eodun_ | +1 |
| 00:13.03 | randomblame | if microsoft implemented something similar there would be dancing in the streets |
| 00:13.18 | arrrghhh | it'll never happen |
| 00:13.22 | jimmy1987 | Mostly i only use redhat based distro's :P |
| 00:13.24 | arrrghhh | their model takes all the load off of them. |
| 00:13.40 | hyc | ok, I turned off 3G data and now it's green |
| 00:13.47 | randomblame | yeah but everyone is moving to app stores - which is a similar concept |
| 00:13.49 | hyc | too many stupid google apps trying to phone home |
| 00:13.55 | hyc | and this sim card has no data service |
| 00:14.45 | stinebd | i like to set wifi to never sleep and use that for data |
| 00:15.04 | Eodun_ | grr wish blackstone had led working, I have to check dmesg to prove phone is sleeping... |
| 00:15.11 | hyc | yeah, I would have gotten to that eventually but I just wanted to see a vanilla install go to sleep. |
| 00:15.45 | Eodun_ | stinebd, will it sleep with wifi on all the time? |
| 00:15.52 | hyc | now I know that it can, so I guess I can go on from there |
| 00:15.55 | randomblame | I wonder which takes more power wifi or 3g |
| 00:16.06 | hyc | i think wifi does |
| 00:16.08 | arrrghhh | Eodun_, he just said he set it to never sleep. |
| 00:16.15 | arrrghhh | you can let it sleep while using wifi tho. |
| 00:16.25 | stinebd | Eodun_: yes but depending on the driver (ti is bad about it) it will wake up pretty often (roughly once or twice a minute) |
| 00:16.27 | arrrghhh | i would think wifi as well. |
| 00:16.39 | arrrghhh | ah right. i forget most phones use TI. |
| 00:16.43 | stinebd | oh rhod wifi uses less power than active 3g |
| 00:16.47 | stinebd | (in theory) |
| 00:16.48 | arrrghhh | really? |
| 00:16.49 | hyc | I seem to recall that 3G is on the MSM chip |
| 00:16.52 | arrrghhh | cuz it's bcm? |
| 00:16.53 | Eodun_ | arrrghhh, he said to put wifi to never sleep, not phone ;) |
| 00:16.57 | hyc | and wifi is always a separate chip |
| 00:16.58 | stinebd | arrrghhh: yes |
| 00:17.03 | arrrghhh | Eodun_, that's what he's talkin bout... |
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| 00:17.04 | randomblame | that feels wrong to me - it should take less power to talk to a device that's a few feet away rather than a quarter mile away |
| 00:17.05 | stinebd | nexus one wifi uses very little power as well |
| 00:17.26 | arrrghhh | randomblame, you don't stand under your cell tower? |
| 00:17.54 | randomblame | arrrghhh: I used to but I was arrested for tresspassing and my encologist said it was causing most of the tumors |
| 00:18.00 | stinebd | wifi isn't really designed for low power mobile applications |
| 00:18.19 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:18.33 | hyc | right. and also wpa_supplicant uses CPU to maintain association with the wifi AP |
| 00:18.33 | arrrghhh | no it's designed for high power, high xfer speed |
| 00:18.35 | stinebd | but vendors are getting very good at squeezing them into very low current draws |
| 00:19.07 | randomblame | hmm |
| 00:19.24 | hyc | you need to do a few more tweaks to make wifi less power hungry. |
| 00:19.39 | hyc | turn down its poll interval to something on the order of 10s of minutes |
| 00:19.49 | stinebd | poll interval? |
| 00:19.55 | hyc | set your DHCP leases to long periods too |
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| 00:20.08 | hyc | wpa_supplicant does a scan for new APs periodically |
| 00:20.10 | stinebd | not if it's associated |
| 00:20.23 | stinebd | well yes if it's associated, but the period is much bigger |
| 00:20.25 | hyc | eh... try connecting with wpa_cli and just watch. |
| 00:20.30 | hyc | right. |
| 00:20.56 | stinebd | to the point of it not mattering for battery usage |
| 00:21.17 | hyc | but if your phone is sitting idle on a table, there's no reason to poll at all. |
| 00:21.41 | hyc | and there's no reason to use a short DHCP lease that triggers a re-authentication, etc. |
| 00:22.46 | hyc | but for the most part I'd prefer just letting wifi shut off when the phone is idle. |
| 00:23.17 | hyc | I don't need background apps using power, pulling down data that I'm not there to use. |
| 00:23.29 | randomblame | I do |
| 00:23.31 | randomblame | lol |
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| 00:26.06 | stinebd | for some reason this all has reminded me to enable mobile sip in my n1 gingerbread build |
| 00:27.03 | randomblame | :D |
| 00:27.18 | arrrghhh | and finish the XDAndroid GB build? |
| 00:27.54 | randomblame | yep the xda build is more important |
| 00:28.14 | randomblame | we have lesser devices and therefore need more software happyness injections |
| 00:28.24 | stinebd | patches welcome |
| 00:29.01 | stinebd | it's actually doing pretty well |
| 00:29.25 | randomblame | if random blame took vicodin do not code; if else... |
| 00:29.27 | arrrghhh | good |
| 00:30.00 | hyc | heh... I've been watching the G1 GB builds too. |
| 00:30.04 | stinebd | there's a new gapps package which i have to integrate, which should fix netloc |
| 00:30.20 | stinebd | bluetooth i still haven't looked into yet |
| 00:30.44 | stinebd | my issues shortlist is down to a couple of items |
| 00:30.45 | arrrghhh | fix netloc? |
| 00:30.53 | randomblame | ah bluetooth, I wish I could try that wii mote android setup |
| 00:30.55 | arrrghhh | arrrruuuu |
| 00:31.14 | stinebd | arrrghhh: netloc provider from old gapps causes a system crash when package manager tries to process the apk |
| 00:31.22 | randomblame | hey f22 you still here |
| 00:31.25 | arrrghhh | oh for gsm. |
| 00:31.25 | arrrghhh | dmanit |
| 00:31.26 | hyc | ah yes, bluetooth. so I can use my bluetooth OBDII adapter and read my car's engine performance data on my phone |
| 00:31.34 | stinebd | for anyone |
| 00:31.41 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 00:31.43 | arrrghhh | i guess time will tell |
| 00:31.48 | stinebd | netloc provider gives results for tower location and gps coords |
| 00:31.48 | randomblame | oooh yeah I need the obd adapter too |
| 00:32.18 | arrrghhh | ja |
| 00:32.32 | randomblame | stinebd - is that broke in froyo too? |
| 00:32.35 | stinebd | it won't "fix" tower location for cdma but at least gps location would work |
| 00:32.39 | stinebd | randomblame: no |
| 00:32.45 | arrrghhh | gps loc works already |
| 00:32.50 | stinebd | not on gingerbread |
| 00:32.55 | arrrghhh | damnit jim |
| 00:32.58 | stinebd | since there's no netloc provider |
| 00:33.10 | arrrghhh | yea, i follow you now. |
| 00:33.40 | stinebd | sensors we have to port over |
| 00:33.46 | arrrghhh | i was lost in a sea of emotion about netloc. |
| 00:33.47 | stinebd | that's going to hurt my bum |
| 00:33.56 | arrrghhh | like g-sensor? |
| 00:33.59 | stinebd | yeah |
| 00:34.02 | arrrghhh | ouch. |
| 00:34.12 | stinebd | totally unresponsive in ginger and the library has changed completely |
| 00:34.15 | arrrghhh | you said google pulled armv6 support from gb entirely? |
| 00:34.19 | stinebd | no |
| 00:34.20 | randomblame | is the gingerbread base that much different? |
| 00:34.21 | randomblame | oh |
| 00:34.22 | randomblame | shit |
| 00:34.42 | arrrghhh | hrm, must've misunderstood that. |
| 00:34.56 | stinebd | arrrghhh: google pulled legacy devices out of their device tree (no more dream/sapphire) |
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| 00:35.05 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 00:35.25 | randomblame | google== rude |
| 00:35.26 | stinebd | and dalvik jit for armv5te remains unmaintained |
| 00:36.08 | hyc | yes, but there's still a cyanogenmod branch for dream/sapphire |
| 00:36.23 | hyc | and also a repo by ezterry on XDA |
| 00:37.00 | stinebd | our device tree is ported up already |
| 00:37.06 | stinebd | no need to worry about that stuff |
| 00:37.19 | stinebd | just a matter of getting all the hardware support working |
| 00:38.23 | stinebd | arrrghhh: oh i know what you're thinking of |
| 00:38.33 | hyc | is your gingerbread effort using kernel 2.6.35? |
| 00:38.42 | arrrghhh | hyc, kernel independent. |
| 00:38.43 | stinebd | surfaceflinger support for ogles1 devices |
| 00:38.52 | arrrghhh | stinebd, perhaps. |
| 00:38.54 | stinebd | which google yanked rudely |
| 00:39.00 | hyc | ah |
| 00:39.00 | arrrghhh | i remember you guys talking about surfaceflinger lol |
| 00:39.02 | stinebd | still not sure why they would've done that |
| 00:39.37 | hyc | probably similar to the reason Samsung hasn't released froyo updates for their Galaxy S phones |
| 00:39.48 | hyc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.54 | stinebd | thank god for git, i was able to simply revert it |
| 00:40.51 | hyc | gotta love open source. just wish these miscellaneous chip vendors would release their device specs. |
| 00:42.04 | randomblame | that would be nice |
| 00:42.11 | randomblame | never going to happen though |
| 00:42.38 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 00:42.44 | arrrghhh | it wouldn't benefit them really |
| 00:42.50 | arrrghhh | well, other than maybe better code lol |
| 00:43.08 | arrrghhh | i noticed HTC took note of what work was done on the evo tree, and even pushed some commits back to CM's evo tree. |
| 00:43.20 | hyc | heh, exactly. I've yet to meet a hardware engineer that can write good code. |
| 00:43.30 | arrrghhh | lol |
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| 00:47.05 | randomblame | oooh |
| 00:47.12 | randomblame | inspire 4g coming to at&t soon |
| 00:49.02 | arrrghhh | meh. there still isn't a worthy replacement for the tp2. |
| 00:49.08 | arrrghhh | evo shift is almost there, but not really. |
| 00:49.16 | arrrghhh | it's not a world phone, and i don't think the screen tilts. |
| 00:49.27 | arrrghhh | plus, i want a real upgrade... moar cores damnit! |
| 00:49.44 | randomblame | yeah - wouldn't it be nice to have a tp2 with dual core tegra 2 |
| 00:49.55 | randomblame | moar fps |
| 00:50.06 | arrrghhh | i want to transcode 1080p video on my phone lol |
| 00:50.09 | hyc | heh... |
| 00:50.17 | randomblame | I don't think I could live without the keyboard anymore |
| 00:50.18 | hyc | I wouldn't mind a TP2 with front camera |
| 00:50.29 | randomblame | why? do you really think you're that pretty? |
| 00:50.32 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:50.37 | hyc | :P |
| 00:50.41 | arrrghhh | i thought the rhod100's have those...? |
| 00:50.43 | arrrghhh | or is it the 300. |
| 00:50.50 | randomblame | it's not the 300 |
| 00:50.50 | arrrghhh | i thought one of 'em has a front-facing cam. |
| 00:50.59 | hyc | dunno, but not this rhod210 |
| 00:50.59 | randomblame | one does don't remember wich |
| 00:55.14 | hyc | hmm. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro2-2690.php they list the secondary camera, not model-specific |
| 00:55.20 | hyc | is it just there, and not working? |
| 00:57.41 | randomblame | I thought it was in the base version |
| 00:58.03 | randomblame | the european version that you didn't buy from a carrier |
| 00:58.17 | randomblame | just can't think right now though |
| 01:00.25 | hyc | ah. and this being a T-Mobile branded phone, of course they deleted it |
| 01:00.34 | hyc | like they did with the Samsung Vibrant... |
| 01:00.54 | arrrghhh | zomg time to leave. |
| 01:01.07 | arrrghhh | peace fellas! |
| 01:03.04 | randomblame | zomg |
| 01:04.19 | randomblame | weird ril bug happened when I took it out of sleep |
| 01:06.11 | randomblame | it usually shows up on boot or never |
| 01:08.59 | hyc | hm, something hung while installing a market app |
| 01:09.06 | hyc | now it's going back to boot animation |
| 01:09.16 | hyc | system_server is at 80% cpu |
| 01:09.34 | hyc | adb is still working, slowly... |
| 01:11.23 | randomblame | weird |
| 01:11.35 | randomblame | try calling voicemail |
| 01:11.49 | randomblame | make sure it's not ril related |
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| 01:13.19 | hyc | can't get it, "1" for VM got connection problem |
| 01:13.33 | hyc | doh. it just cleared up. |
| 01:13.48 | hyc | might have been my dialing attempt, dunno. it cleared up a few seconds after. |
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| 01:38.37 | NeoMatrixJR | hyc the front (second) camera on the TP2 is, as far as I know, only available in an un-branded HTC TP2. They designed the phone to have one and all the carriers dropped the feature I believe. |
| 01:39.03 | hyc | yeah, looks that way |
| 01:39.25 | hyc | oh well. getting an unbranded TP2 would mean I lose T-mobile 3G. |
| 01:40.14 | hyc | hmm, Droidwall isn't working, I think we're missing some netfilter modules on these kernels. or something. |
| 01:41.27 | NeoMatrixJR | nah, you can get a HTC unbranded. They're GSM (not CDMA) and unlocked I believe. |
| 01:41.49 | hyc | yes, but only the T-Mobile ones have the T-Mobile 3G frequency |
| 01:42.08 | hyc | 1700MHz |
| 01:43.04 | NeoMatrixJR | oh |
| 01:43.25 | NeoMatrixJR | sorry, don't know much about GSM. I'm a CDMA guy |
| 01:43.48 | hyc | yeah, T-Mobile lost out, being the littler GSM carrier in the US |
| 01:43.56 | hyc | they don't get to use the same spectrum as everyone else |
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| 02:05.49 | hyc | hmmm. incoming calls works, outbound doesn;t. |
| 02:06.29 | hyc | Connection problem or invalid MMI code |
| 02:06.32 | hyc | wtf is that? |
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| 02:07.47 | stickman89 | stinebd: you here? |
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| 02:35.31 | arrrghhh | hyc, you should join #xdandroid |
| 02:35.42 | hyc | ok |
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| 02:53.51 | arrrghhh | Samsunguy, not this again ^^ |
| 02:54.09 | Samsunguy | Not what |
| 02:54.42 | arrrghhh | sign off, sign on, sign off, sign on |
| 02:54.54 | arrrghhh | all within a minute |
| 02:55.03 | Samsunguy | It was the irc server I was using |
| 02:55.05 | arrrghhh | well except for the last one, 3 minute span. |
| 02:55.20 | arrrghhh | thought you were using your failPad again. |
| 02:55.34 | Samsunguy | No never will I do that again |
| 02:55.44 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 02:55.50 | Samsunguy | I'm still looking for a good client though |
| 02:56.02 | arrrghhh | alright, nuff OT in hurrrr |
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| 03:06.15 | justloco | hey whats up everyone |
| 03:09.00 | justloco | anyone here have a touch pro 2 |
| 03:10.09 | Amander|sl33p | hi |
| 03:14.14 | randomblame | hi |
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| 03:24.01 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: any sod reports or is everyones device behaving? |
| 03:24.59 | arrrghhh | of course not. |
| 03:25.07 | arrrghhh | you put debugs in there, and it's flawless. |
| 03:25.14 | arrrghhh | it's like freakin quantum physics |
| 03:25.14 | WisTilt2 | figures |
| 03:25.16 | hyc | heh |
| 03:25.22 | arrrghhh | you look at it, and it drops out of superposition. stupid particle! |
| 03:25.35 | hyc | sometimes debug logs change the timing of things and that's all the difference that's needed |
| 03:25.51 | arrrghhh | sooooooo system_server. |
| 03:25.58 | arrrghhh | how's that lookin? |
| 03:26.03 | arrrghhh | froths at the mouth |
| 03:26.07 | stinebd | heisenbug |
| 03:26.10 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:26.14 | WisTilt2 | i have a test fix and after around 10 reboots none so far |
| 03:26.20 | arrrghhh | hell yes. |
| 03:26.33 | hyc | well that sounds pretty promising |
| 03:26.35 | WisTilt2 | i hate waiting so long for winmo to boot up so i can boot back to android |
| 03:26.35 | arrrghhh | but it doesn't fix the root cause, just forces it to reallocate the memory basically? |
| 03:26.39 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:26.42 | arrrghhh | gen.y is cool |
| 03:26.48 | arrrghhh | i didn't use it for the longest time, not sure why. |
| 03:26.54 | arrrghhh | works really freakin well. |
| 03:27.20 | hyc | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec.html |
| 03:27.32 | WisTilt2 | should be able to write a hook that lets us reboot into linux from linux, just need it to restart bypassing the bootloader |
| 03:27.33 | arrrghhh | ah well. g2g to some party crap. bbl! |
| 03:27.34 | hyc | we need a kexec wrapper... |
| 03:27.42 | WisTilt2 | kexec wont work i dont think |
| 03:28.02 | hyc | no? why not? |
| 03:28.44 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: ended up just barely over .5% per hour since i left office too so i need to put that kernel out there along with system server fix for testing. |
| 03:31.09 | hyc | I think the biggest problem with using kexec is cleanly killing current processes so that filesystems can be unmounted cleanly |
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| 03:31.28 | hyc | with my machines on SSDs even regular shutdown doesn't unmount cleanly |
| 03:32.03 | hyc | I think we could patch a kexec call into init.android |
| 03:32.17 | hyc | so send it a particular signal, and it would do all the cleanup for us |
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| 03:43.48 | hyc | this last testing kernel wakes up fast for me |
| 03:43.58 | hyc | gets to sleep in about 5 seconds too, not bad |
| 03:44.48 | hyc | also, I'm using sleep_mode=0 |
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| 04:42.27 | MassStash | i can help test for rhod400 if needed in argh's absence |
| 04:43.55 | MassStash | and the 0 shows no issues? or simply the same as 1>? |
| 04:44.10 | MassStash | @hyc |
| 04:44.18 | hyc | so far it seems to work fine |
| 04:44.38 | MassStash | i think arghs a bit anti 0 sleep guy |
| 04:45.02 | hyc | I've forgotten what the differences are, I saw a list of sleep modes posted somewhere |
| 04:45.03 | MassStash | its not a true value or something, weird |
| 04:45.09 | hyc | it ought to be in an FAQ |
| 04:45.23 | MassStash | yea'1' is where it's at supposedly |
| 04:45.49 | MassStash | starting to be kinda obsolete i believe |
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| 04:48.23 | MassStash | snows got me waitin for a new testKern as well.... |
| 04:48.24 | MassStash | wuah wuah |
| 04:48.31 | hyc | heh |
| 04:49.05 | MassStash | saw someone had the 10sec wake. i've been getting this as well |
| 04:49.12 | MassStash | has this been addressed in here? |
| 04:49.26 | hyc | hmm. from the wiki, hard to tell any difference between sleep_mode 0 vs 1 |
| 04:49.33 | hyc | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Kernel_boot_command-line_parameters |
| 04:49.46 | MassStash | the "think" it's gonna be SOD, but not after long while |
| 04:50.02 | hyc | are you running the latest test kernel with added debug log msgs? |
| 04:50.13 | hyc | 'cause no one else has had an SoD since then |
| 04:53.20 | MassStash | yes, yes. |
| 04:54.15 | MassStash | but second to latest and latest i've gotten a no response to pressing power button. wait5 s, the hit power again a couple times and then it'll init |
| 04:55.31 | rpierce99_ | I still get a failed wake every now and then too, but it is really rare at this point |
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| 05:09.31 | WisTilt2 | sleep mode=0 is ok also, it just puts arm11 in suspend instead of power collapse |
| 05:09.39 | WisTilt2 | wb arrrghhh |
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| 05:11.04 | arrrghhh | howdy |
| 05:11.12 | arrrghhh | i hear your test kernel needs to be pushed out. is it ready? |
| 05:11.22 | arrrghhh | i see MassStash is tryin to steal my position :P |
| 05:11.24 | WisTilt2 | lol no |
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| 05:11.51 | WisTilt2 | still fixing the buffer realloc which is being stubborn |
| 05:11.58 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 05:12.05 | arrrghhh | i thought you had that licked? |
| 05:12.18 | arrrghhh | 10 boots, no prob? |
| 05:12.36 | justloco | Hey total newbie need some help :( |
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| 05:12.41 | WisTilt2 | did for over 10 reboots then got 2 in a row. looks like memory alignment isnt right |
| 05:12.42 | arrrghhh | ah well take your time. |
| 05:12.46 | arrrghhh | justloco, what phone? |
| 05:12.51 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 05:12.59 | justloco | touch pro 2 sprint world phone |
| 05:13.00 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, well take your time dude. i'm just ancy, ignore me :P |
| 05:13.06 | arrrghhh | justloco, come to #xdandroid |
| 05:13.25 | justloco | K |
| 05:13.35 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'd rather good complete fixes than half-assed ones. you don't seem to do half-assed, which is awesome :D |
| 05:15.09 | WisTilt2 | yeah im thinking this quick fix may be more trouble making it work 100% than finding the root cause itself |
| 05:15.47 | arrrghhh | well like i'd personally rather wait and fix the root cause. |
| 05:16.06 | arrrghhh | you seem to be on a track which will get you to it, i would think... |
| 05:16.45 | hyc | WisTilt2 - what source file are you looking at, what is the buffer that's failing to alloc? |
| 05:18.10 | WisTilt2 | transaction buffer during network registration. setup in binder |
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| 05:21.09 | WisTilt2 | no sod's at all since this test kernel? |
| 05:21.12 | hyc | frameworks/base/cmds/servicemanager/binder.c ? |
| 05:21.29 | hyc | MassStash said he had an SoD |
| 05:21.44 | WisTilt2 | hyc: kernel side not userland |
| 05:21.57 | hyc | ahh ok |
| 05:22.25 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, nope. |
| 05:22.29 | WisTilt2 | did we get a kmsg dump on that sod? |
| 05:22.32 | arrrghhh | been running for hours. |
| 05:22.35 | WisTilt2 | hiya bzo |
| 05:22.44 | bzo | howdy |
| 05:22.44 | arrrghhh | oh hey lookie thar it's a bzo. |
| 05:22.59 | bzo | that's Mr Bzo to you |
| 05:23.07 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 05:23.27 | bzo | or Senor if you prefer |
| 05:23.46 | arrrghhh | Esquire? |
| 05:23.56 | arrrghhh | Senor bzo, Esquire. |
| 05:24.56 | WisTilt2 | bzo: during suspend sequence, do you know if there are any timing delays in fb code when the clocks are slowed down? |
| 05:25.26 | bzo | no idea WisTilt2, haven't messed around too much with that |
| 05:26.25 | bzo | I'm pulling my hair out atm trying to figure out why the HQ Youtube stopped working |
| 05:26.59 | WisTilt2 | not even freezing frames anymore or just not smooth playing? |
| 05:27.11 | bzo | totally broken like before |
| 05:27.37 | WisTilt2 | i fixed that in that last dsp patch. was table order |
| 05:28.28 | arrrghhh | bzo, i never got hq to work... |
| 05:28.34 | arrrghhh | with that cam kernel, oc, nothin. |
| 05:28.37 | bzo | err, I mean how it was working after the initial fix |
| 05:28.42 | bzo | sound and occasional frames |
| 05:29.14 | bzo | arrrghhh: yeah I saw you mention it which is why I was looking at it again |
| 05:29.20 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 05:29.23 | WisTilt2 | did queue order get moved around since then? |
| 05:29.23 | arrrghhh | of course, and now it doesn't work :P |
| 05:29.25 | bzo | there must be something else besides the jb clocks required |
| 05:29.52 | bzo | WisTilt2: yes to fix camera, but that only affected the vfe and jpeg queues at the end of the list |
| 05:29.59 | WisTilt2 | if queue is right, even wrong clock should still put up a frame in hq |
| 05:30.28 | arrrghhh | i can get a frozen frame if i move the slider |
| 05:30.39 | arrrghhh | it's odd, i have to skip into the vid basically to get any video frame. |
| 05:30.50 | arrrghhh | but that frame freezes, and audio still continues. |
| 05:31.00 | bzo | WisTilt2: I think you can get a frame without mp4 decoding |
| 05:31.09 | arrrghhh | it's such a tease, cuz those frames look damn fine in HQ :P |
| 05:31.19 | bzo | if it works like mpeg2, there are full iframes every so often |
| 05:31.29 | bzo | the dsp works to create the diffs for subsequent frames |
| 05:32.07 | bzo | WisTilt2: something is definately screwy though, because in the log you can see the VIDEOTASK get initialized and enabled, then immediately shut down |
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| 05:33.17 | bzo | arrrghhh: the hq was beautiful when it was working |
| 05:33.31 | WisTilt2 | This is the last table order i did when hq worked but skipped. http://pastebin.com/mCQ5KjDq |
| 05:33.35 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 05:35.33 | bzo | WisTilt2: more or less what I'm using aside from the fixes at the end of the table |
| 05:36.17 | hyc | youtube works great using the camera patched kernel tiad8 is using. I wonder what patches he applied |
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| 05:37.17 | arrrghhh | hyc, HQ? |
| 05:37.26 | hyc | yes, both |
| 05:37.40 | arrrghhh | why doesn't it work for me :P |
| 05:37.51 | bzo | tiad8 didn't do anything, he's just using Jbruneaux's kernel |
| 05:37.57 | arrrghhh | tiad8 is using the same thing... yea. |
| 05:38.06 | arrrghhh | tiad8 doesn't really have anything that is his own... |
| 05:38.30 | arrrghhh | found out "froyo X" is a huawei 8150 rom he stole from neopeek's forum |
| 05:38.48 | arrrghhh | i think we all knew sense X is klinux's 2.1 sense build... |
| 05:39.22 | hyc | heh. I didn't even bother to look at that. no skins for me. |
| 05:39.36 | arrrghhh | no skins? |
| 05:39.39 | hyc | sense |
| 05:39.45 | hyc | just vanilla android UI |
| 05:40.00 | hyc | I don't want any of this other stuff thrown on top |
| 05:40.16 | hyc | tho I miss a few tweaks from Cyanogen |
| 05:40.22 | hyc | like customizable powercontrol widget |
| 05:40.34 | arrrghhh | oh , yea. |
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| 05:59.12 | rpierce99 | just got a SoD on the verbose kernel |
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| 05:59.17 | rpierce99 | pulling the logs now |
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| 06:00.36 | hyc | cool. now my frx04 is refusing to sleep again. orange led... |
| 06:01.47 | hyc | ah yes, GPS is the culprit |
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| 06:02.06 | hyc | which kinda sucks. froyox doesn't have this problem |
| 06:02.15 | hyc | it will sleep even if GPS is enabled |
| 06:03.17 | randomblame | woot this is neato andro irc is working well |
| 06:03.42 | bzo | that is interesting hyc, so it seems to point to some userland problem in xdandroid |
| 06:03.56 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: was led green or orange? |
| 06:04.01 | rpierce99 | green |
| 06:04.15 | hyc | bzo: yes, identical kernel and rootfs. (using F22's rootfs) |
| 06:04.25 | WisTilt2 | ok, anxiously waiting to see the dump. |
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| 06:06.06 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, so you found that folder right? |
| 06:06.07 | arrrghhh | that's right, you use adb haha |
| 06:06.13 | randomblame | my wifes rhod300 wont sleep at all its configured exactly as mine frx04 and 1/31 kernel weird eh no gps on i think it must be an app |
| 06:06.31 | rpierce99 | actually this time i didnt bother rebooting into android to pull the logs i just pulled them out of data.img |
| 06:06.51 | arrrghhh | randomblame, it's an app. they'll hang sleep obviously. |
| 06:06.52 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: how long has device been up before sod? |
| 06:06.59 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol |
| 06:07.45 | hyc | hmmmmm. I hardly have anything installed now besides the stock frx04 build. market updated maps, gmail, and youtube. |
| 06:08.12 | hyc | what if it's the browser? do you allow your browser to get your location settings? |
| 06:08.36 | hyc | I usually decline, but I agreed on this setup |
| 06:08.55 | arrrghhh | eh, loc only works for me if i turn on gps. |
| 06:09.01 | randomblame | if location is off in settings does it matter |
| 06:09.05 | arrrghhh | which my bank wants my location to use deposit@mobile |
| 06:09.22 | arrrghhh | annoying, have to get a gps lock lol |
| 06:10.40 | rpierce99 | WisTilt2: I don't remember the exact time of the last reboot, maybe 5 hours, I rebooted a while ago after F22 told us we didn't need the other libc |
| 06:11.36 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, oh hey wanted to mention something that might or might not be related to kbd bl - the repeat characters is definitely still an issue, but it doesn't seem quite as bad. still there tho... |
| 06:12.51 | randomblame | it is really bad in browser im on my rhod in androirc right now and its behaving i wonder if its userland issue |
| 06:13.58 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: i havent had that once since the fix and i use the kbd a bunch. is it only on certain rhods or all? |
| 06:14.27 | arrrghhh | well it seems better on my rhod, but still present. i'll have to find out who is experiencing it. |
| 06:14.32 | arrrghhh | wait, randomblame you have a 300 don't you? |
| 06:14.37 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: 5hrs is not that long... whats your cellular signal like? |
| 06:14.38 | arrrghhh | i'm reading your post, it's full of repeat letters lol |
| 06:14.55 | randomblame | yes! |
| 06:14.57 | rpierce99 | normally pretty good, i've been home all day, 5 bars right now |
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| 06:15.37 | WisTilt2 | strange. well we need to see the dump and see what happened |
| 06:15.50 | rpierce99 | yeah sorry i'm having some issues pulling it |
| 06:15.56 | rpierce99 | had to boot into android after all |
| 06:16.05 | arrrghhh | randomblame, did you just make that post on your phoen? |
| 06:16.11 | arrrghhh | s/phoen/phone |
| 06:16.12 | randomblame | yes |
| 06:16.15 | arrrghhh | damn trailing slash |
| 06:16.21 | arrrghhh | randomblame, can you pull your dmesg and pastebin it? |
| 06:16.28 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i'm assuming you want a dmesg. |
| 06:16.33 | WisTilt2 | yep |
| 06:17.47 | randomblame | no my wife and i are watching a movie cant get on the computer |
| 06:18.00 | arrrghhh | lol you're on irc |
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| 06:18.04 | arrrghhh | randomblame, fail. |
| 06:18.11 | randomblame | yeah on my rhod |
| 06:18.14 | rpierce99 | bad news |
| 06:18.25 | rpierce99 | most recent mod date on a last_kmsg in that folder |
| 06:18.40 | randomblame | this is my new favorite app |
| 06:18.42 | rpierce99 | feb 1, 2:29PM |
| 06:18.50 | hyc | rpierce99 - you have to boot for it to save a new kmsg |
| 06:19.04 | rpierce99 | it's booted now |
| 06:19.20 | hyc | oh, I thought you were just mounting data.img |
| 06:19.24 | randomblame | keyboard is behaving on this app it hates the browser though |
| 06:19.34 | rpierce99 | i was, when that didn't have anything i booted it |
| 06:20.04 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, hrm. did you still have that libc mounted? |
| 06:20.08 | rpierce99 | nope |
| 06:20.13 | arrrghhh | wtf. |
| 06:20.16 | arrrghhh | i just keep it mounted :P |
| 06:20.17 | rpierce99 | unmounted it after the convo with f22 earlier |
| 06:20.22 | randomblame | ps i hate the word app its soo iphoney |
| 06:20.25 | arrrghhh | not like it hurts anything. |
| 06:20.37 | WisTilt2 | how many files are in that folder? i have tons of them back to jan 29th |
| 06:20.44 | arrrghhh | randomblame, so you're saying certain apps kbd is fine, others arenot? |
| 06:20.48 | rpierce99 | heres what i'll do |
| 06:21.42 | randomblame | it seems that way arrrghhh but it could just be a matter of timing intermittent |
| 06:21.52 | rpierce99 | you tell me what of this you might want |
| 06:21.54 | rpierce99 | http://pastebin.com/Y2jKgecS |
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| 06:22.36 | rpierce99 | i have a bunch of older ones but that's sorted by last mod |
| 06:22.44 | arrrghhh | randomblame, well if you can't pull logs, we can't really fix crap. wouldn't be easy, but you could do it all on your phone. |
| 06:24.03 | randomblame | arrghhh we can it |
| 06:24.11 | randomblame | try it |
| 06:24.24 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG@1296571768070.txt.gz and system_app_anr@1296627262260.txt.gz for now |
| 06:24.28 | randomblame | i like a challenge |
| 06:25.04 | WisTilt2 | and system_server_anr@1296605485840.txt.gz if you can |
| 06:25.10 | rpierce99 | that kmsg is from 10 hrs ago |
| 06:25.20 | rpierce99 | last thing in it is a successful power down |
| 06:25.42 | WisTilt2 | wonder why you dont have anything more recent. |
| 06:25.51 | rpierce99 | blame f22 |
| 06:26.47 | WisTilt2 | when you got sod did you reboot before you mounted data.img? |
| 06:27.45 | rpierce99 | i booted into winmo, connected to my mac, pulled up data.img and copied some stuff out, didn't change anything, then when I realized the stuff I copied didn't have anything in it, i booted to android to try to find the good stuff |
| 06:28.30 | arrrghhh | that's your problem right there |
| 06:28.34 | arrrghhh | you connected it to a mac. |
| 06:28.41 | randomblame | lol |
| 06:29.20 | rpierce99 | last_kmsg: http://pastebin.com/JASgvqh9 |
| 06:29.26 | hyc | so out of curiosity, on my G1, Settings / About phone shows Basband version and a long string of version numbers |
| 06:29.31 | hyc | including the radio version |
| 06:29.42 | hyc | on TP2, all it says is "HTC" |
| 06:30.00 | rpierce99 | system_app_anr: http://pastebin.com/XdXLjuce |
| 06:30.02 | hyc | why doesn't it show the version of the radio firmware? |
| 06:30.19 | arrrghhh | hyc, blame the RIL. |
| 06:30.46 | hyc | and the next question - aren't all of these MSM chips using the same radio? |
| 06:30.55 | hyc | shouldn't the same RIL work for all? |
| 06:30.56 | WisTilt2 | first pastebin is no good, didnt dump |
| 06:30.58 | rpierce99 | system_server_anr: http://pastebin.com/eF6jQ1Xp |
| 06:31.32 | rpierce99 | sorry, last_kmsg: http://pastebin.com/2bQ0yziu |
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| 06:33.50 | WisTilt2 | you have manual brightness on right? |
| 06:33.50 | hyc | arrrghhh: ls -l /system/lib/*ril* shows 3 files, two are identical between G1 and xdandroid |
| 06:34.25 | hyc | the difference, G1 has libhtc-ril.so at 449K, xdandroid has libhtcgeneric-ril.so at only 50K |
| 06:34.32 | rpierce99 | yes, manual brightness, set to ~50% |
| 06:35.16 | hyc | kinda makes me wonder what that extra 400K of stuff is on the G1's |
| 06:35.17 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: we need to find out if people getting sod have autobl on or off |
| 06:35.55 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, interesting. so that would effect it eh? |
| 06:35.57 | hyc | Oh, froyox doesn't have auto setting. |
| 06:36.07 | hyc | I was surprised to see that available on frx04 |
| 06:36.40 | arrrghhh | yea, that's just a huawei build he stole from neopeek's forums. |
| 06:36.47 | hyc | right |
| 06:36.52 | randomblame | i had autobl on when i had a sod |
| 06:36.56 | arrrghhh | stinebd actually integrated autobl into our aosp build. |
| 06:36.58 | WisTilt2 | shouldnt, just eliminating possibilities. i have autobl running 100% in hardware so should have nothing to do with it. |
| 06:37.15 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, cool. yea, i always have autobl on too for the record. |
| 06:37.26 | TPDJR | Hey tiad8 finally joins irc |
| 06:37.58 | arrrghhh | i saw him hop on earlier. |
| 06:38.18 | rpierce99 | he just joined again 5 minutes ago |
| 06:38.45 | TPDJR | he finally wants to join forces lol |
| 06:39.06 | randomblame | tiad8 - froyox is icky :p |
| 06:40.10 | WisTilt2 | rpierce99: thanks but we're going to have to wait for the next sod with a valid kmsg. |
| 06:40.20 | arrrghhh | RME@TPDJR |
| 06:40.42 | rpierce99 | yeah, sorry about that, I'll get that libc remounted, because apparently this dropbox thing isn't reliable |
| 06:40.59 | TPDJR | ? |
| 06:41.06 | WisTilt2 | that way you'll have redundant logs |
| 06:41.14 | tiad8 | hi, guys |
| 06:41.29 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, that is unfortunate. F22, explain yourself :P |
| 06:41.52 | arrrghhh | TPDJR, rolling my eyes @ "join forces lol" |
| 06:42.05 | rpierce99 | i know, I was so excited when I tried turning it on and it didn't work! |
| 06:42.07 | TPDJR | o lol ya haha |
| 06:42.18 | randomblame | darn it f22 hes at it again |
| 06:43.24 | TPDJR | hey tiad8 |
| 06:44.27 | WisTilt2 | nite guys, back tomorrow night. |
| 06:44.41 | TPDJR | later wistilt |
| 06:51.07 | rpierce99 | i know the last thing I did right before the SoD though |
| 06:51.19 | rpierce99 | you guys were talking about youtube HQ, so I went in and tried it |
| 06:51.23 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 06:51.29 | rpierce99 | then put the phone to sleep |
| 06:51.33 | rpierce99 | so maybe it was that |
| 06:52.07 | rpierce99 | but then yours would probably be crashed too because you tried it also |
| 06:52.13 | randomblame | could bbbe |
| 06:52.32 | randomblame | theere goes the keyboadrd |
| 06:52.36 | randomblame | grr |
| 06:52.44 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 06:52.54 | arrrghhh | randomblame, i wonder if it's system_server acting up. |
| 06:53.02 | randomblame | me to |
| 06:53.32 | randomblame | wasnt wis gonna upload his fixes for that |
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| 06:54.26 | randomblame | if it goess away well knoow |
| 06:56.12 | arrrghhh | read mah piost |
| 06:56.18 | arrrghhh | s/piost/post/ |
| 06:56.28 | randomblame | lol piost |
| 06:56.28 | rpierce99 | youtube hq is actually kind of playing for me right now with this libc in here |
| 06:56.44 | randomblame | ill read it |
| 06:56.53 | arrrghhh | bedtime. peace fellas. |
| 06:56.56 | rpierce99 | it's getting a frame like every 10 seconds |
| 06:57.00 | TPDJR | later |
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| 06:58.48 | randomblame | nite arrrghh |
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| 07:45.26 | hyc | OK, that answers that. With the G1 libhtc_ril.so, I only get GSM, no 3G or EDGE. |
| 07:45.39 | hyc | and I can make and receive calls, but can't hear any audio |
| 07:45.51 | hyc | and mic doesn't work either |
| 07:46.01 | hyc | but pressing the keypad sends DTMF tones to the other side |
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| 07:46.34 | hyc | not a good tradeoff just to be able to see my radio version in About Phone... |
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| 08:18.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey fellas |
| 08:19.34 | XirXes | whats up Alex[sp3dev] |
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| 08:21.33 | Cotulla | hey |
| 08:21.45 | Cotulla | u too early Alex today :P |
| 08:22.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: now we have wifi without proxy at the university |
| 08:25.04 | Cotulla | ohhh |
| 08:25.05 | Cotulla | :D |
| 08:25.11 | Cotulla | how loox? |
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| 08:27.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: good. only wifi is left.gotta try directfb without X11. but well. now that i have time, i'll be rewriting lk for wince msm72k devices |
| 08:32.45 | Cotulla | hehe |
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| 08:37.39 | Cotulla | We gotta port MAGLDR to TP2 and TD2 :P |
| 08:37.52 | XirXes | do it |
| 08:37.55 | XirXes | lol |
| 08:38.15 | Cotulla | ? |
| 08:39.11 | XirXes | if you are actually going to do it i'd be more than willing to help test with my tp2. its not my main phone anymore |
| 08:39.45 | Willd | And Mega |
| 08:39.59 | XirXes | go away Willd, men are talking |
| 08:40.14 | Cotulla | heh Alex wlan is buggy :P |
| 08:40.15 | Willd | XirXes: True true :( |
| 08:40.29 | XirXes | lol i didnt mean it |
| 08:40.37 | Willd | XirXes: :p |
| 08:40.43 | Cotulla | trolls? |
| 08:41.00 | Willd | Cotulla: You eat trolls for breakfast! |
| 08:41.44 | XirXes | im no troll |
| 08:42.02 | Cotulla | okay |
| 08:42.06 | Cotulla | so Willd troll? |
| 08:42.18 | Willd | Cotulla: I reckon someone would like to label me as one, but no |
| 08:42.24 | XirXes | im not sure. i think he has a samsung |
| 08:42.39 | Willd | I do indeed |
| 08:42.42 | Cotulla | Alex, are there also TI1250? |
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| 09:38.11 | manusfreedom | Cotulla: one of my friend have a new probelm, since 24h no more usb storage under magldr |
| 09:38.39 | manusfreedom | he try 1.11 and 1.13 version without success |
| 09:39.05 | manusfreedom | do you have some other feedback with that problem? |
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| 09:42.33 | Cotulla | ? |
| 09:42.34 | manusfreedom | Cotulla: tested on different computer (Win7 or WinXP) |
| 09:42.53 | manusfreedom | and it worked this week-end... |
| 09:44.12 | Cotulla | what u mean? |
| 09:45.58 | manusfreedom | he choose usb mass storage on magldr and he is unable to see it on any computer |
| 09:46.16 | Willd | Tried on linux? |
| 09:46.20 | Willd | What does lsusb say? |
| 09:48.08 | manusfreedom | resolved... |
| 09:48.17 | manusfreedom | removed battery no change... |
| 09:48.33 | manusfreedom | removed and reinserted the sdcard worked... |
| 09:48.34 | manusfreedom | :( |
| 09:49.01 | manusfreedom | but we do'nt understand because android working well |
| 09:49.02 | fakker | you lie |
| 09:49.09 | manusfreedom | and the data.img is on sdcarD... |
| 09:52.42 | Cotulla | hm ok |
| 09:54.39 | manusfreedom | Cotulla: android or something else, can keep a "handle" on sdcard when we are under magldr (I do'nt think so I ask...) |
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| 10:16.10 | Cotulla | I think all problems because it contains 13 in name |
| 10:16.16 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:19.16 | fakker | or anus |
| 10:19.21 | fakker | har ahrhar harhar |
| 10:19.51 | Cotulla | kick urself fukker |
| 10:20.09 | fakker | kicks himself |
| 10:20.12 | fakker | touch yourself |
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| 11:16.32 | opterz | Cotulla |
| 11:16.40 | opterz | I have a question |
| 11:17.14 | opterz | On DFT i hear that mwang is cooking 2-in-1 ROM? |
| 11:17.24 | opterz | Are you in the know about it? |
| 11:18.14 | fakker | no, please enlighten me |
| 11:19.04 | opterz | He says he's near to finish |
| 11:19.19 | opterz | Hasnt told what OSes it will have actually |
| 11:19.27 | fakker | he downloads into my phone? |
| 11:19.50 | opterz | Mwang :) the guy behind DFT |
| 11:20.35 | fakker | work it harder, make it better, do it faster, makes us stronger, more than ever, hour after, our work is never over |
| 11:20.58 | opterz | Lol |
| 11:21.06 | opterz | Cotulla here? |
| 11:21.10 | fakker | no |
| 11:21.36 | opterz | Oh he left :( |
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| 12:35.45 | Daevoq | guys.. i've a question.. markinus CWR included in his rom.. working too with other roms? |
| 12:36.15 | Daevoq | afaik it's made to have cache on last 24mb.. have another partition layout |
| 12:36.17 | Daevoq | ù |
| 12:36.46 | Daevoq | if i install this CWR and markinusx HD 1.7 rom.. later can i use CWR to flash another rom? |
| 12:37.05 | Daevoq | or need i to reinstall CRW standard too? |
| 12:38.23 | crawling | those questions are in -chat. and, each build should have it's own partion layout. if it's not declared in OP, then use whatever you have |
| 12:40.45 | Daevoq | well.. thx! |
| 12:41.24 | Daevoq | btw can't find any answer in -chat :) |
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| 13:59.40 | F22 | Pohket: i posted an updated rootfs to xda if you're interested. |
| 14:00.49 | Pohket | Highly |
| 14:01.50 | F22 | Pohket: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935710 |
| 14:05.08 | Pohket | Thanks |
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| 14:34.39 | jt1024 | Hello, I got a serious problem.. |
| 14:35.49 | jt1024 | I installed the Froyo 2.2 Reference.. on my HTC Topaz, it works fine, but my touchscreen is mirrored.. |
| 14:37.10 | jt1024 | the screen itself displays just fine, but when, for example, I tap Camera, it selects DevTools (on the opposite side of the screen) |
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| 14:41.58 | Samsunguy | ~seen mdeejay |
| 14:42.02 | apt | mdeejay <~mdeejay@188.168.168.101> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 22d 3h 7m 41s ago, saying: 'жеÑÑÑ'. |
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| 14:44.10 | jt1024 | Hello, I got a serious problem.. I installed the Froyo 2.2 Reference.. on my HTC Topaz, it works fine, but my touchscreen is mirrored.. the screen itself displays just fine, but when, for example, I tap Camera, it selects DevTools (on the opposite side of the screen) |
| 14:44.29 | Willd | Won't help if you spam |
| 14:44.56 | jt1024 | I don't spam.. it's a serious problem.. |
| 14:45.30 | Willd | Geesch man, have some patience, if someone can help you, they will |
| 14:45.45 | jt1024 | okay,, sorry ;) |
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| 14:48.49 | Willd | Samsunguy: Such timing :) |
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| 14:55.50 | jt1024 | never mind my problem.. i've found the solution.. it was a calibration issue, my bad!! |
| 14:57.27 | Samsunguy | Mdeejay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:57.36 | mdeejay | hi |
| 14:57.48 | Samsunguy | Your alive |
| 14:57.54 | mdeejay | )) |
| 14:58.09 | Samsunguy | Where've you been? |
| 14:58.46 | mdeejay | business trips... |
| 15:00.11 | Samsunguy | Oh |
| 15:00.22 | mdeejay | git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_leo cool |
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| 15:00.45 | Samsunguy | Yep Time to update nightly build |
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| 15:09.53 | arif-ali | Hi mdeejay, when you converted your Froyo revolution 2.2 to 2.3, did you have any issues with AudioFlinger? I am trying to update the revolution HD to NAND, CWM and newest kernel |
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| 15:44.36 | gauner1986 | hi guys |
| 15:55.31 | noellenchris-zzz | hey gauner1986 |
| 15:56.25 | noellenchris | gauner1986 do you have any lag in scrolling with gingerbread? |
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| 16:04.27 | arrrghhh | sir abel |
| 16:06.57 | [acl] | yes sir |
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| 16:10.37 | rpierce99 | dude, arrrghhh, I don't think either of the last_kmsg solutions work for SoD |
| 16:10.59 | rpierce99 | I had another one this morning, tried to cat /proc/last_kmsg ... nothing |
| 16:11.16 | rpierce99 | manually shut down, restarted, and what do you know, last_kmsg is there |
| 16:13.31 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 16:13.33 | arrrghhh | that don't make sense. |
| 16:13.40 | arrrghhh | i haven't had any SoD's on this new kernel. |
| 16:13.44 | arrrghhh | neither has anyone else (i thought) |
| 16:13.52 | rpierce99 | it does if it writes last_kmsg on shutdown, but I don't think they'd do that |
| 16:14.26 | arrrghhh | you're an enigma. |
| 16:14.30 | rpierce99 | i know |
| 16:14.33 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 16:14.56 | rpierce99 | both SoDs were when I went into my basement though, so it might be signal related |
| 16:15.08 | arrrghhh | i was testing a kernel for wistilt2 last night, not sure what happened but something slaughtered a 90% battery in less than 6hrs. |
| 16:15.11 | rpierce99 | I spent the last half hour down there trying to get it to do it again though, no love |
| 16:15.20 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 16:15.30 | arrrghhh | are you trying ot wake it in your basement as well? |
| 16:15.44 | arrrghhh | i just want to make damned sure what you're experiencing is an actual SoD. |
| 16:15.46 | rpierce99 | the two times it happened i attempted to wake it coming up stairs |
| 16:16.01 | arrrghhh | well give it 10 mins |
| 16:16.03 | arrrghhh | mash every button |
| 16:16.04 | arrrghhh | try adb |
| 16:16.06 | arrrghhh | try calling it |
| 16:16.10 | rpierce99 | i like to look at my phone when i'm walking around |
| 16:16.12 | arrrghhh | basically ensure that it won't wake. |
| 16:16.14 | rpierce99 | makes me feel more productive |
| 16:16.19 | arrrghhh | and dangerous |
| 16:16.31 | arrrghhh | i like to post facebook updates at 70mph |
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| 16:18.22 | rpierce99 | i tried putting my phone in the dryer (off, obviously) to see if I could reproduce a low cell signal |
| 16:24.13 | [acl] | arrrghhh: i'm talking to jonpry about the wrapper. |
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| 16:31.11 | [acl] | arrrghhh: ok .. so i'll work with him on that. looks like he just got a new machine and is ready to jump back into action. |
| 16:34.54 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 16:35.13 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, make sure the dryer is running when you do that. |
| 16:35.23 | arrrghhh | microwave might help too. could amplify the signal actually... |
| 16:38.13 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: yeah I was thinking the same thing, I also got some great advice for something else that might help: adb shell rm -rf / |
| 16:38.21 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 16:38.31 | arrrghhh | probably won't work if you're not root tho |
| 16:38.40 | rpierce99 | adb shell is always root isn't it |
| 16:38.46 | arrrghhh | nah |
| 16:38.50 | rpierce99 | i never have to su to see /data |
| 16:38.50 | arrrghhh | you have to su to get root |
| 16:38.57 | arrrghhh | i swear i did |
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| 16:39.09 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 16:39.11 | arrrghhh | maybe i'm nuts |
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| 16:39.33 | randomblame | maybe? |
| 16:39.40 | arrrghhh | :(){ :|:& };: |
| 16:39.45 | arrrghhh | that's a good one too rpierce99 |
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| 16:45.30 | rpierce99 | hm, weird, id returns "uid=0 gid=0" |
| 16:45.39 | rpierce99 | i'd expect some actual groups |
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| 16:46.59 | randomblame | that was weird |
| 16:47.38 | randomblame | I just pushed the power button said power off phone and its rebooting right back to android |
| 16:48.28 | rpierce99 | i've been getting that lately too |
| 16:48.36 | rpierce99 | have to pull the battery to get back to winmo |
| 16:48.56 | randomblame | probably pm problem |
| 16:49.08 | randomblame | anyone want a kmsg |
| 16:49.26 | [acl] | randomblame: are they still blaming you for everything ? |
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| 16:50.02 | randomblame | no we moved on to f22 and tiad8 |
| 16:50.25 | F22 | i prefer blaming tiad8. :P |
| 16:50.52 | randomblame | yep tiad8's always up to no good |
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| 16:55.31 | [acl] | dang tiad8.. guy sounds mischievous |
| 16:55.40 | arrrghhh | lol wha'd he do now |
| 16:56.16 | randomblame | he fixed something |
| 16:56.19 | randomblame | you're not gonna like it |
| 16:56.30 | arrrghhh | he didn't fix diddly |
| 16:56.35 | randomblame | lol |
| 16:57.35 | arrrghhh | wow |
| 16:57.35 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2 just emailed me... |
| 16:57.46 | arrrghhh | "Btw, overnight with this new power mod I went 8hrs in sleep and dropped from 79% to 77%. Do the math on that:) |
| 16:57.47 | arrrghhh | " |
| 16:59.04 | rpierce99 | Man the other devs really need to get on it, WisTilt2 is going to give us ridiculous battery life, no SoD, and fix system_server, all at once :P |
| 16:59.15 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 16:59.23 | rpierce99 | I thought only tiad8 could fix all those things at the same time |
| 16:59.33 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 17:00.03 | arrrghhh | [acl], what did tiad do now tho dude? |
| 17:00.03 | arrrghhh | or did i miss something |
| 17:00.03 | arrrghhh | goes to check logs |
| 17:00.26 | arrrghhh | oic |
| 17:01.01 | F22 | no doubt most everyone on xda and ppcgeeks will give tiad8 credit for wistilt2's fixes. :P |
| 17:01.07 | [acl] | <rpierce99> Man the other devs really need to get on it, WisTilt2 is going to give us ridiculous battery life, no SoD, and fix system_server, all at once :P <-- ahh man .. you need to becareful with what u say around here |
| 17:01.08 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 17:01.32 | [acl] | arrrghhh: nahh he a cool dood.. just wondering who we blaming lately |
| 17:01.45 | arrrghhh | i'd hope he was being sarcastic. |
| 17:01.50 | arrrghhh | but, sarcasm is basically lost in text. |
| 17:02.00 | [acl] | yeah .. thats why im hated on xda :-( |
| 17:02.02 | arrrghhh | [acl], F22 has been the scapegoat of late TBH |
| 17:02.03 | [acl] | haha |
| 17:02.11 | rpierce99 | the :P was the sarcasm indicator |
| 17:02.14 | [acl] | i blamed F22 myself.. |
| 17:02.16 | arrrghhh | lol you took sarcasm to a new level there hahaha |
| 17:02.22 | [acl] | this is true |
| 17:02.30 | [acl] | i was at fault |
| 17:02.35 | F22 | et-tu [ACL]? |
| 17:03.02 | [acl] | F22: :-p .. blamed you for everything.. |
| 17:03.28 | randomblame | pastebin.com/ayx0xEN5 - dmesg from wierd reboot |
| 17:03.36 | [acl] | its alright i was blamed for a week one time for breaking autobuild |
| 17:03.38 | [acl] | so dont feel bad |
| 17:03.59 | F22 | damn, i have need to put more effort into shifting the not so random blame to tiad8 then. |
| 17:04.24 | rpierce99 | randomblame: did you pull that from last_kmsg? which one? |
| 17:04.28 | F22 | i'd like to at least know what i'm being blamed for. |
| 17:04.39 | randomblame | no I dumped dmesg via adb |
| 17:04.49 | [acl] | i need to see if stinedb can release tar.gz versions of the frx04. the img is useless for us in nand |
| 17:04.55 | rpierce99 | after a reboot? |
| 17:05.03 | [acl] | and making our own is just something that no one will wanna do |
| 17:05.03 | randomblame | that's the 1/30 kernel without the extra printks since I couldn't really get at the computer yesterday |
| 17:05.33 | randomblame | yep directly after the reboot |
| 17:05.46 | randomblame | should span the whole night of restless sleep too |
| 17:05.53 | rpierce99 | i thought that stuff didn't persist through a reboot? |
| 17:05.59 | randomblame | oh it does |
| 17:06.08 | randomblame | it takes a lot to wipe that ram |
| 17:06.16 | randomblame | believe it or not |
| 17:06.19 | rpierce99 | then why do we need to deal with last_kmsg for the SoDs |
| 17:06.27 | randomblame | I don't know |
| 17:06.49 | Pohket | F22: You know the saying... When you do all the work, you make all the mistakes =) |
| 17:06.53 | randomblame | oh if it goes all the way into winmo there is a risk it will be overwritten |
| 17:06.58 | F22 | lol |
| 17:07.00 | randomblame | it just rebooted from android to android |
| 17:07.11 | randomblame | so mine survived |
| 17:07.25 | rpierce99 | oh ok, so with a sod where you have to pull the battery it won't be there after a reboot into winmo and then android |
| 17:07.36 | randomblame | it may or may not |
| 17:08.07 | randomblame | best to just use the kmesg |
| 17:08.13 | emwe | rpierce99: why not dumping ramconsole with haret/haretscripting... |
| 17:08.18 | F22 | Pohket: since my work is only one small piece of the whole, that means i still have plenty of others i can conveniently blame too. :P |
| 17:08.32 | randomblame | hehe ramconsole ftw |
| 17:08.52 | rpierce99 | randomblame: problem is my last_kmsgs weren't populated after the SoDs I had |
| 17:08.57 | emwe | i usually immedeately do that when sth breaks. |
| 17:09.10 | rpierce99 | if I had known it was possibly still in dmesg I would have dumped that |
| 17:09.30 | randomblame | that's weird |
| 17:09.38 | randomblame | yeah try it next time |
| 17:09.43 | randomblame | maybe it will survive |
| 17:09.44 | rpierce99 | emwe: I'm just getting logs the ways I was taught, no idea what you are talking about :) |
| 17:09.48 | F22 | the very last kmseg should also be in /proc. |
| 17:09.48 | randomblame | or part of it |
| 17:10.27 | randomblame | rpierce99 - ramconsole is a method of dumping the dmesg via haret after a reboot to winmo |
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| 17:11.16 | randomblame | pretty sure it's not enabled in these kernels though |
| 17:12.57 | F22 | rpierce99: try looking at /proc/last_kmsg |
| 17:13.36 | emwe | randomblame: is should be enabled unless the builder modified the kernel config |
| 17:14.06 | randomblame | I thought it was off in the defconfig by default |
| 17:14.10 | arrrghhh | [acl], i wouldn't mind making the system images, but they wouldn't be signed is the issue. |
| 17:14.20 | arrrghhh | also, it dumps as a .img file... not sure how to get that to .tar.gz for you. |
| 17:15.01 | F22 | arrrghhh: instead of making an image of the contents, you'd just "tar" it up and compress it. |
| 17:15.04 | rpierce99 | F22: When I tried to pull /proc/last_kmsg it didn't exist, until I did a manual reboot, then it populated |
| 17:15.22 | arrrghhh | F22, oic. i'd probably find a way to bugger that up. |
| 17:15.40 | F22 | arrrghhh: i think there is a windows version of tar made by the gnu foundation |
| 17:15.53 | arrrghhh | i use linux |
| 17:15.59 | arrrghhh | for building the system image |
| 17:15.59 | F22 | even better |
| 17:16.07 | F22 | then you already have it |
| 17:16.07 | arrrghhh | and when i'm at home mostly :P |
| 17:16.11 | arrrghhh | indeed i do |
| 17:16.30 | arrrghhh | i can build the system image to, i setup an environment |
| 17:16.30 | F22 | tar basically just takes a directory tree and turns it into a single file. |
| 17:16.31 | arrrghhh | thinking i'd help with the development of userland. HA! |
| 17:16.43 | arrrghhh | yea, but i'm not sure what to tar up is my point. |
| 17:16.55 | arrrghhh | i'm guessing what gets spat out in the 'output' folder. |
| 17:17.02 | [acl] | arrrghhh: making the image is easy, its just that we dont wanna do it :-p |
| 17:17.02 | F22 | whatever directory tree we're making an image out of. |
| 17:17.16 | [acl] | stinedb prob has all this scripted anyways.. best to just leave him to handle it |
| 17:17.28 | arrrghhh | [acl], well i can be that monkey until stinebd can get it runnin. |
| 17:17.46 | arrrghhh | like i said before, my image won't be signed anyways, so either way i'd prefer to have him do it. |
| 17:17.56 | [acl] | for already did it for frx4 .. so just for the future i mean |
| 17:18.00 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 17:18.03 | arrrghhh | no worries. |
| 17:18.18 | F22 | i'm sure stinebd can do it in a matter of seconds anyway, plus it will be signed. agreed. |
| 17:18.27 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 17:18.52 | arrrghhh | can i drop in a new kernel and modules and just reboot...? |
| 17:19.01 | arrrghhh | i'm guessing since the kernel is mounted/in use that wouldn't work. |
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| 17:27.16 | arrrghhh | anyone? bueller? |
| 17:27.28 | F22 | randomblame: do you know what the ramconsole option is named in the defconfig? |
| 17:27.31 | [acl] | haha |
| 17:27.43 | [acl] | arrrghhh: you know i met bueller while getting lunch one day |
| 17:27.44 | [acl] | haha |
| 17:28.03 | arrrghhh | really? |
| 17:28.05 | emwe | F22: CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE |
| 17:28.06 | arrrghhh | nice. |
| 17:28.18 | arrrghhh | can i swap out a kernel and just reboot back to Android? |
| 17:28.24 | randomblame | f22 grep ramconsole in it |
| 17:28.30 | randomblame | let me look |
| 17:28.50 | F22 | CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE=y |
| 17:28.50 | F22 | CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_ENABLE_VERBOSE=y |
| 17:28.56 | F22 | looks good to me |
| 17:29.02 | randomblame | ah |
| 17:29.26 | randomblame | I don't know why I thought it was disabled |
| 17:30.31 | arrrghhh | tiad8's fault |
| 17:30.42 | randomblame | yep |
| 17:30.42 | F22 | oh, and i did grep for RAMCONSOLE, i didn't think to break it up into RAM_CONSOLE however. that's why i asked. :P |
| 17:30.48 | F22 | lol, yup, tiad8's fault. |
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| 17:31.20 | arrrghhh | so i'll take that as a no, i can't update the kernel and boot back into droid. |
| 17:31.37 | F22 | i'm not sure i understand your q. |
| 17:31.59 | rpierce99 | he wants to update zImage while in android and reboot to see the changes |
| 17:32.02 | arrrghhh | i'm in android, i'd like to put a new kernel/modules in. |
| 17:32.08 | arrrghhh | yea. what he said ^^ :P |
| 17:32.20 | arrrghhh | basically i'd like to avoid winmo if i can. |
| 17:32.30 | arrrghhh | (only way i can connect to irc is thru tether...) |
| 17:32.54 | F22 | oh, so you'd like to reboot directly back into linux instead of winmo as an intermediary step. |
| 17:33.01 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 17:33.02 | [acl] | arrrghhh: yeah .. one day i went go get some food and he was behind me in line with some old lady.. |
| 17:33.28 | rpierce99 | but the key is he needs to overwrite zImage, which is likely in use |
| 17:33.34 | arrrghhh | [acl], awesome. i've ran into a few lesser-known celebs. haha. |
| 17:34.09 | [acl] | arrrghhh: nneed to come to nyc more often .. |
| 17:34.23 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 17:34.26 | arrrghhh | i haven't been up there in years. |
| 17:34.48 | arrrghhh | hopefully if i can make the fam reunion this year i'll be in that neck of the woods. we have it on a lake in CT |
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| 17:38.31 | arrrghhh | so... no? |
| 17:39.20 | [acl] | just take the train down one day and live it up.. rhodium style |
| 17:39.21 | [acl] | :-p |
| 17:39.34 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 17:39.47 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i don't see how that crap is going to stay in ramconsole. |
| 17:39.59 | arrrghhh | my dmesg runs off the buffer before i even reboot |
| 17:40.15 | arrrghhh | like i can't get dmesg info from the start if i've been booted for a while. |
| 17:40.28 | rpierce99 | tell it to randomblame |
| 17:40.31 | rpierce99 | lol |
| 17:41.05 | randomblame | lol I just pulled one and it was on all night |
| 17:42.19 | arrrghhh | it goes to the start of your boot? |
| 17:42.34 | randomblame | yep |
| 17:42.41 | arrrghhh | it definitely doesn't go past the start of my boot, so previous boot info'll never be in there. |
| 17:43.41 | randomblame | previous boot info would be towards the end of the file wouldn't it? the new boot would overwrite the beginning but not the very end of the file |
| 17:43.51 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 17:43.55 | arrrghhh | no |
| 17:44.09 | arrrghhh | we're talking about 'dmesg' right? |
| 17:44.13 | randomblame | yeah |
| 17:44.20 | arrrghhh | stuff at the end is the most recent... |
| 17:44.33 | arrrghhh | as you scroll up you're going back in time basically. |
| 17:46.03 | randomblame | yeah but the most recent boot might not have overwritten all of the lines of the last dmesg for instance if you had 1000 lines in the last boots dmesg and only 500 lines of the current boots dmesg then line 501-1000 would be old data from the last boot - at least that's how ram console worked I don't know if dmesg is wiped clean after a reboot or if it is partially retained until overwritten |
| 17:48.19 | arrrghhh | randomblame, where are you referncing this from? |
| 17:48.30 | randomblame | my super awesome brain |
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| 17:48.35 | arrrghhh | s/referncing/referencing/ |
| 17:48.38 | arrrghhh | randomblame, ... |
| 17:49.04 | arrrghhh | not to question your 'super awesome brain', but i think you're wrong. |
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| 17:49.12 | arrrghhh | i kinda wish you were right, cuz that'd be nice. |
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| 17:49.20 | randomblame | that's just how ramconsole worked like I said I don't know how dmesg works if it is there until overwritten or if it is wiped after boot |
| 17:49.39 | arrrghhh | what do you mean that's how ramconsole worked? |
| 17:49.57 | randomblame | I mean that is how ram console worked |
| 17:50.05 | rpierce99 | lol |
| 17:50.10 | randomblame | :P |
| 17:50.18 | arrrghhh | hrm. |
| 17:50.24 | arrrghhh | i guess i'm not familiar with ram console. |
| 17:50.30 | arrrghhh | you used this on your RHOD? |
| 17:50.35 | arrrghhh | to pull dmesg? |
| 17:50.47 | rpierce99 | randomblame: you're talking about haret ramconsole that emwe suggested to me earlier, i assume |
| 17:51.05 | randomblame | no I used ram console on my incite to pull console messages during init to debug my incite kernel |
| 17:51.14 | randomblame | same kernel source with a few hundred tweaks |
| 17:51.25 | randomblame | rpierce99 yes |
| 17:51.35 | randomblame | except it has little to do with haret |
| 17:51.48 | randomblame | haret is used to read the memory address in which ram console is retained |
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| 17:52.30 | randomblame | basically the kernel writes it's messages to an area of ram that is rarely used, it survives reboots and when you get to winmo you can dump that memory address to a file and read console messages you otherwise could never have seen |
| 17:52.38 | randomblame | very handy if you don't have a working frame buffer |
| 17:53.01 | randomblame | but like I said I have no idea how dmesg is implemented - userland is not my forte |
| 17:53.09 | arrrghhh | randomblame, you can't use that to reference how our poop works. |
| 17:53.35 | randomblame | sure I can arrrghhh - it is our poop it's the same kernel |
| 17:54.00 | arrrghhh | for your incite? |
| 17:54.03 | randomblame | yeah |
| 17:54.17 | [acl] | dang.. poop has become mainstream |
| 17:54.32 | F22 | there is even a poop phone acl. :P |
| 17:54.40 | F22 | when i saw it i thought of you... ;) |
| 17:54.49 | [acl] | i feel special |
| 17:54.51 | arrrghhh | i didn't think our kernels ran on any LG crap.... better [acl] ? :P |
| 17:55.17 | randomblame | it doesn't - I added a few dozen files and tweaks |
| 17:55.25 | [acl] | lol |
| 17:55.27 | randomblame | maybe a few hundred |
| 17:55.49 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 17:55.54 | arrrghhh | pretty sure dmesg is a little different buddy |
| 17:55.55 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 17:56.04 | randomblame | it probably is |
| 17:56.05 | arrrghhh | ramconsole is it's own beast. |
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| 17:56.18 | arrrghhh | dmesg is just that boot basically, and only that boot. |
| 17:56.34 | F22 | [ACL]: Just for you: http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/12/22/presenting-the-poop-phone/ |
| 17:56.39 | arrrghhh | hence the reason we need a way to pull logs after reboots to winmo, as a new boot to android would wipe out anything in the old dmesg potentially. |
| 17:57.04 | randomblame | yeah ram console would work perfectly for that |
| 17:58.03 | rpierce99 | If you're running a giant, slow, buggy winMo rom (stock htc rom :) ) would the unused ram still be unused |
| 17:58.25 | [acl] | lol .. poop phone. |
| 17:58.38 | arrrghhh | or the dood phone |
| 17:58.56 | randomblame | it depends on the memory mapping rpierce99 generally yes |
| 17:59.04 | F22 | like i said, it made me think of you ACL... lol |
| 17:59.06 | randomblame | as long as you just boot winmo fast and get into haret doing nothing else |
| 17:59.20 | rpierce99 | seems like the WinMo rom that you are running could potentially wipe my ramconsole after a reboot. I wonder if the last_kmsg implementations pull ramconsole on the next boot |
| 17:59.31 | rpierce99 | that could explain why my last_kmsg stuff is almost always empty |
| 17:59.41 | randomblame | probably not the reason |
| 17:59.45 | F22 | randomblame: do you know where in memory it would get written to randomblame? |
| 17:59.58 | arrrghhh | randomblame, randomblame |
| 18:00.01 | randomblame | I changed the address for my incite port, let me look it up |
| 18:00.09 | F22 | it's all randomblame's fault now. ;) |
| 18:00.12 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:01.42 | randomblame | I think it's 0x8e0000 0x20000 |
| 18:02.20 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: you were just waiting to post that link in the Froyo X thread weren't you :) |
| 18:02.25 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 18:02.27 | arrrghhh | perhaps |
| 18:02.40 | arrrghhh | ever since that was pointed out to me, i want to make it known :P |
| 18:03.03 | arrrghhh | especially since that dude mentioned neopeek. |
| 18:03.41 | randomblame | bah I gotta go to the chyropractor peace out |
| 18:03.48 | rpierce99 | better watch out, seems like froyox is a bit cultish, you might find someone on your doorstep after that post |
| 18:04.02 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i hope i do. |
| 18:04.13 | arrrghhh | so i can set the record straight in person :D |
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| 18:06.00 | arrrghhh | damn people. think they can just slap 5 kernels in and they'll benefit from them all |
| 18:06.18 | arrrghhh | 'i want camera test kernel, batt test kernel, and usb headset NOW' |
| 18:06.34 | Willd | usb headset huh+ ,9 |
| 18:06.36 | Willd | ? ;) |
| 18:06.48 | arrrghhh | put your lg down |
| 18:06.57 | Willd | Blasphemy! |
| 18:07.02 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:07.08 | arrrghhh | yes, lg is blasphemy in here. |
| 18:07.25 | arrrghhh | alright. one last time. is there any way to update the kernel and boot back to android ? |
| 18:07.33 | arrrghhh | i'm really lazy. |
| 18:07.40 | Willd | Yes, yes you are |
| 18:07.49 | Willd | Can you boot into fastboot somehow? |
| 18:07.53 | arrrghhh | i've been sitting on a new test kernel lol |
| 18:07.55 | F22 | yes and no. yes in theory, but i don't believe it's built into ours at this point. |
| 18:08.03 | arrrghhh | F22, f- it i'm trying. |
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| 18:08.22 | F22 | kexec |
| 18:08.28 | arrrghhh | que? |
| 18:08.48 | F22 | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec.html |
| 18:09.31 | Willd | arrrghhh: Can't you boot to wince and just replace the kernel? |
| 18:09.47 | arrrghhh | yes, but remember? |
| 18:09.48 | arrrghhh | is lazy |
| 18:10.07 | Willd | Okay, do you guys have fastboot? :) |
| 18:10.23 | arrrghhh | don't think so |
| 18:10.33 | Willd | cuz you can reboot into from android |
| 18:10.33 | arrrghhh | considering the article F22 sent me was from ibm's website. |
| 18:11.25 | Willd | kexec is for changing kernel under-run |
| 18:12.03 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 18:12.04 | arrrghhh | not sure how |
| 18:12.08 | arrrghhh | but it looks like adb push worked |
| 18:12.16 | arrrghhh | now to reboot, see if the new kernel is in play or not... |
| 18:12.56 | rpierce99 | wishes arrrghhh good luck |
| 18:13.06 | arrrghhh | thx, brb. |
| 18:13.19 | F22 | fastboot is for flashing a rom Willd. |
| 18:13.29 | Willd | F22: Or a kernel |
| 18:13.50 | Willd | I'm flashing just my kernels that way :) |
| 18:14.40 | F22 | but you're still tweaking nand. or are you running your install from an sd card too? |
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| 18:43.40 | Pohket | Anyone in here with a rhodium that has access to a WEP connection? |
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| 18:49.08 | rpierce99 | that took a while arrrghhh, problems? |
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| 18:57.18 | arrrghhhTP2 | Just system-server probs |
| 18:57.28 | arrrghhhTP2 | Getting logs to wistilt |
| 18:57.29 | rpierce99 | it'll be good to see that go |
| 18:57.41 | arrrghhhTP2 | Yes |
| 18:57.49 | arrrghhhTP2 | Worked tho, the adb push |
| 18:58.45 | rpierce99 | hm, so just adb push your zImage right over the top |
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| 18:59.48 | rpierce99 | what's the command to reboot android into android |
| 19:00.01 | rpierce99 | sometimes it does it automatically when I try to shut down, but can't rely on that :) |
| 19:00.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | killall zygote |
| 19:02.01 | rpierce99 | ty |
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| 19:50.09 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: is there any way to tell if the proper debug messages are present in the dmesg log after it's dumped, any key words we're looking for? I tried the zImage reboot trick and want to make sure I'm up to date before posting the log |
| 19:51.31 | arrrghhh | pastebin it |
| 19:51.33 | arrrghhh | i'll show ya |
| 19:51.50 | arrrghhh | bah i'll just pastebin mine |
| 19:51.51 | arrrghhh | 1 sec |
| 19:52.07 | rpierce99 | http://pastebin.com/a1KmRd4c |
| 19:52.58 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 19:53.00 | arrrghhh | i don't see the top of it |
| 19:53.36 | arrrghhh | but i believe it's the "binder" statements that WisTilt2 put in there |
| 19:53.36 | arrrghhh | "[ 5167.967315] binder: release 2843:2856 transaction 51682 out, still active" |
| 19:53.51 | arrrghhh | but yea that scrolls off dude, i don't see the top of the dmesg. |
| 19:54.08 | arrrghhh | I was going to suggest looking at the first line |
| 19:54.09 | arrrghhh | [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.27.46-01253-gd53ddf6-dirty (root@wireless251) (gcc version 4.4.0 (GCC) ) #123 PREEMPT Wed Feb 2 08:47:04 PST 2011 |
| 19:54.22 | arrrghhh | that date/time at the end is when the kernel was compiled. |
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| 19:55.02 | arrrghhh | so that's how you can tell if you're running on the new kernel or not. |
| 19:55.02 | arrrghhh | so my method, i didn't just reboot android, i soft reset the phone. |
| 19:55.10 | arrrghhh | just never went into winmo, using gen.y immediately booted android again. |
| 19:55.23 | arrrghhh | i don't know if that killall zygote will do it. |
| 19:55.31 | rpierce99 | yeah i don't have gen.y installed |
| 19:55.31 | arrrghhh | AFAIK that just reloads android userland |
| 19:55.39 | emwe | right |
| 19:55.42 | arrrghhh | sounds like a personal problem |
| 19:55.53 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 19:56.02 | rpierce99 | it never picked up my android install back when I installed from the cab, so I just stopped trying |
| 19:56.11 | arrrghhh | ha |
| 19:56.15 | arrrghhh | gotta do the reg hack |
| 19:56.15 | arrrghhh | but yea |
| 19:56.21 | arrrghhh | i didn't use it for the longest time |
| 19:56.39 | arrrghhh | i only just installed it like 2 weeks ago maybe. not sure what took me so long, app works great. |
| 19:56.45 | rpierce99 | alright I'll reboot so I can get a fresh dmesg |
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| 19:57.24 | rpierce99 | maybe i'll throw gen.y on there again and give it another shot |
| 19:57.29 | Markinus | hi |
| 19:57.33 | arrrghhh | what's up Markinus |
| 19:57.34 | gauner1986 | hey markinus |
| 19:59.09 | arrrghhh | hey i got a question to the HD2 folk. what do you guys use to improve GPS locks? QuickGPS in WinMo seems to actually help lock times in Android, but I haven't found an app that does the same thing in Android |
| 19:59.26 | arrrghhh | GPS Status appears like it should do this, but doesn't seem to actually push the values onto the radio as QuickGPS appears to do... |
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| 20:00.35 | gauner1986 | arrrghhh: we dont have anything atm, because it's not implemented in the gps lib |
| 20:01.16 | arrrghhh | hrm. |
| 20:01.19 | gauner1986 | arrrghhh: the xtra protocol, which does what quickgps does needs to be implemented in libgps |
| 20:01.26 | arrrghhh | gauner1986, so you guys just wait till it get a lock? |
| 20:01.28 | gauner1986 | there are a few rpc calls it seems |
| 20:02.06 | arrrghhh | sometimes it takes a loooong time to get a lock in Android if i don't do QuickGPS in WinMo first. |
| 20:05.08 | gauner1986 | yeah |
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| 20:05.21 | gauner1986 | it needs to be found out what quickgps actually sends to the gps chip |
| 20:05.25 | arrrghhh | bummer. |
| 20:05.46 | arrrghhh | sounds like some RE needs to be done on the dll |
| 20:05.51 | arrrghhh | where's Cotulla when you need him... |
| 20:05.53 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 20:05.53 | gauner1986 | alternatively you can implement agps, but i guess rpc calls would be still the same |
| 20:06.04 | gauner1986 | haha, i told him a lot of times :P |
| 20:06.15 | arrrghhh | has he looked at it? |
| 20:06.22 | gauner1986 | but he's not motivated to do it atm seems :P |
| 20:06.38 | arrrghhh | huh |
| 20:06.39 | arrrghhh | oh well. |
| 20:07.49 | gauner1986 | who can do re as well? ;) |
| 20:07.58 | arrrghhh | no body i know. |
| 20:07.59 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 20:08.02 | gauner1986 | damn |
| 20:08.03 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 20:08.06 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
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| 20:18.53 | arrrghhh | F22, you thar |
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| 20:35.04 | rpierce99 | log posted: http://pastebin.com/ym3XwXnd |
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| 20:36.21 | Pohket | Anyone with a Rhodium/TP2/Tilt2 that has access to a WEP connection wanna help me test something out? |
| 20:36.44 | rpierce99 | no wep here, sorry |
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| 20:45.05 | arrrghhh | Pohket, hrm... don't think i could rig anything either. i'll be home in 2 hrs give or take. |
| 20:45.36 | Pohket | Alright then - We'll discuss then |
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| 20:46.19 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, thx |
| 20:47.03 | arrrghhh | Pohket, which RHOD do you have? |
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| 20:55.58 | Pohket | arrrghh: Tilt2 |
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| 21:06.43 | arrrghhh | Pohket, do you have some time to run WisTilt2's new test kernel? i'm trying to amass as many logs as possible basically. |
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| 21:19.50 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: hi. you got cellular and data connection working on your .35, right? |
| 21:20.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: yep |
| 21:20.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm on 5225, you know |
| 21:20.33 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: damnit. i got cellular and it tells data is connected, but data won't work. |
| 21:20.47 | emwe | i can even call myself or call outside... |
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| 21:21.05 | arrrghhh | emwe, dns? |
| 21:21.05 | emwe | any idea what might be wrong/missing? |
| 21:21.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: actually, haven't tested data. i am working on fixing LK right now. will touch 35 later |
| 21:21.34 | emwe | arrrghhh: yes, i get unknownhostexceptions. how the hell do you immedeately come to think of DNS?! |
| 21:21.46 | arrrghhh | emwe, i'm a network guy. |
| 21:21.52 | arrrghhh | what i do for a living, kinda :P |
| 21:21.54 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: pardon my ignorance... LK was for? |
| 21:22.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: a shitty bootloader by qualcomm |
| 21:22.21 | emwe | arrrghhh: well, dns isn't to far off as you mention it. |
| 21:22.39 | arrrghhh | emwe, do you get an ip? |
| 21:22.44 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: which is established on regular qcom android devices? |
| 21:23.00 | emwe | arrrghhh: let me try to directly ping sth... |
| 21:23.04 | arrrghhh | kk |
| 21:23.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: not really. afaik the only commercial device using it was some LG smartphone |
| 21:23.24 | emwe | aha |
| 21:23.54 | emwe | if you get a chance to retest data on your .35 i'd be more then willing to know if i miss something from you. |
| 21:24.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, we could try u-boot, but i think LK is nicer as it supports interrupts and multithreading. if that plan fails, i'll have to do it from scratch |
| 21:24.58 | emwe | what happened to pooploader? |
| 21:25.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i doubt that. i can't even get to boot android anymore. dalvik crashes on boot unable to find some class. i have decided to forget about it until i reimplement microp and sound properly |
| 21:25.14 | emwe | arrrghhh: no route to host... |
| 21:25.28 | arrrghhh | emwe, you have an IP tho? |
| 21:25.30 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: i can get to android just fine. works like .27 apart from the many parts missing :) |
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| 21:26.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | emwe: i am telling you - i'll start writing pooploader if LK fails. although i still think i'll have to rewrite pretty much stuff from scratch, including framebuffer and pcom |
| 21:26.49 | emwe | Alex[sp3dev]: oh good luck. i certainly can't do much then just crossing fingers for you ;) |
| 21:27.18 | emwe | arrrghhh: no interface set up. ^^ can you give me a quick ifconfig dump or how the device is to be named? |
| 21:27.30 | arrrghhh | emwe, sure 1 sec |
| 21:28.53 | arrrghhh | emwe, http://pastebin.com/TBRtFqzG |
| 21:29.24 | arrrghhh | brb folks |
| 21:29.27 | emwe | arrrghhh: thx! ppp0 is missing obviously on my side. |
| 21:29.31 | arrrghhh | lol np |
| 21:29.47 | gauner1986 | alex[sp3dev]: what is a good bootloader then? :) |
| 21:31.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: u-boot probably is. although its build system is horrible. LK is just written poorly, most of stuff is hardcoded for android AMSS and it was not tested on ARMv6 cpus, so doesn't work for us |
| 21:31.36 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 21:31.53 | gauner1986 | i guess that's due to budget decisions? ;) |
| 21:32.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | i guess that's due to qualcomm always writing bad code |
| 21:33.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn when those tegra2 tablets are going to reach europe.. |
| 21:34.37 | gauner1986 | does u-boot also have a mass-storage feature? :P |
| 21:35.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: don't think so. who the fuck needs it anyway? |
| 21:35.27 | gauner1986 | hm. it's handy sometimes |
| 21:35.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: and yes. if you want to troll me, i don't care for closed-source stuff because i want to know how things work. i am not interested in whether they do work, i want to understand the process |
| 21:36.20 | gauner1986 | no, just wanted to have an opinion :) |
| 21:36.35 | gauner1986 | and then |
| 21:36.40 | gauner1986 | curiousity |
| 21:36.41 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 21:37.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | but u-boot supports connecting client mass storages |
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| 21:42.06 | gauner1986 | connect mass storages? |
| 21:42.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 21:42.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | usb host |
| 21:42.29 | gauner1986 | ah ok |
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| 21:47.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, fellas. gotta go. fawk haven't really slept on monday and tuesday (were having exams). luckily thursday is my day-off |
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| 22:14.28 | benoit | hello there |
| 22:15.33 | benoit | i have an htc desire smartphone and would like to try alternative ROMS |
| 22:15.41 | benoit | since my htc is something rebooting in loops... |
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| 22:22.14 | benoit | but rooting, rom, rom manager, recovery and all that stuff looks chinese to me :-) |
| 22:22.26 | benoit | (even if i've been using & hacking linux for years...) |
| 22:25.21 | Samsunguy | benoit: noob |
| 22:25.38 | benoit | yup, starting in the android world :-) |
| 22:26.38 | Samsunguy | Would love to help but I own an hd2 |
| 22:27.22 | benoit | maybe you could help me to understand all the words first? :-) |
| 22:27.50 | Samsunguy | Like? |
| 22:28.02 | rpierce99 | rooting = getting access to linux user "root" |
| 22:28.14 | benoit | yup. i got this (but not more) |
| 22:28.17 | phh | (#android or #htc-linux-chat perhaps ?)Ã |
| 22:28.35 | benoit | for instance = how to find rom compatible with my model? |
| 22:28.48 | benoit | i see lots of numbers, code name and so on everywhere |
| 22:28.58 | rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328 |
| 22:29.30 | Samsunguy | There you go |
| 22:29.35 | benoit | rpierce99: yup, i read this alread.... but did not undertand a word! |
| 22:29.42 | Samsunguy | Lol |
| 22:29.53 | Samsunguy | It's simple |
| 22:30.27 | Samsunguy | Numbers are the version number most likely |
| 22:33.20 | benoit | let's take an example : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310 |
| 22:33.49 | benoit | my phone says : software version 2.29.405.5, so it looks the same version |
| 22:34.19 | rpierce99 | are you just trying to reflash your original software? |
| 22:34.20 | Samsunguy | Yes your question about this is |
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| 22:34.35 | benoit | rpierce99: not necessarily. |
| 22:35.19 | benoit | ah, i think i understand one step further : all roms listed on the page are compatible with HTC desire :-) |
| 22:35.26 | benoit | ok. now, which one to choose? |
| 22:35.44 | Samsunguy | Facepalm |
| 22:35.48 | benoit | i don't see the difference between "Amethyst" and "Ginger Villain" for instance |
| 22:36.04 | Samsunguy | The name of the rom |
| 22:36.08 | benoit | and what "MIUI Roms" means ? |
| 22:37.17 | benoit | is sure that in less than one month, he will speak chinese as well :-) |
| 22:37.37 | rpierce99 | here's the deal, rather than trying to figure out what they all are, why don't you tell me what you are trying to do |
| 22:38.05 | rpierce99 | all of the roms exist for a reason, your desire (pardon the pun) should match the reason the rom exists |
| 22:38.15 | benoit | first need is : my htc desire just got back from an RMA ... Without change! |
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| 22:38.38 | benoit | and my problem is that after using it for like 1h, it starts rebooting with no reason |
| 22:38.45 | benoit | so, i'd like to fix that first |
| 22:38.54 | benoit | (and then, i'd like to hack the phone a lot :-)) |
| 22:39.20 | benoit | but i'll try to write apps first, before reflashing (or even recompiling) a new roms |
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| 22:40.57 | benoit | aaargh777 ? |
| 22:41.39 | benoit | what "gingerbread" means ? |
| 22:41.51 | arrrghhh | new android build |
| 22:42.01 | arrrghhh | this is a dev channel, probably shouldn't be in here. |
| 22:42.33 | benoit | arrrghhh: sorry for off topic. i'd like to be dev asap :-) |
| 22:42.54 | benoit | what channel would you recommend for an android noob like me ? |
| 22:43.00 | arrrghhh | hrm. starting from square one isn't easy. |
| 22:44.14 | arrrghhh | read |
| 22:44.16 | arrrghhh | no channel |
| 22:44.25 | arrrghhh | lots of reading. |
| 22:45.36 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh: ever seen the weird characters in a dmesg like that log that dude posted? |
| 22:47.56 | arrrghhh | nope |
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| 22:49.22 | arrrghhh | hopefully master WisTilt can make sense of it. |
| 22:50.17 | rpierce99 | could indicate some memory corruption, which itself could explain the SoD |
| 22:50.22 | arrrghhh | perhaps |
| 22:50.24 | rpierce99 | or could be nothing |
| 22:50.27 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 22:50.28 | arrrghhh | who knows |
| 22:50.38 | arrrghhh | i haven't had one SoD |
| 22:50.48 | arrrghhh | frustrating, for once to not get the bug. |
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| 23:22.05 | benoit | ok. after at least 10 reboots, my phone is rooted :-) |
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| 23:25.08 | fakker | benoit: did you crippler crossface the phone? |
| 23:25.19 | benoit | fakker: ? |
| 23:25.28 | benoit | thinks his phone is broken.... |
| 23:25.40 | fakker | chris benoit |
| 23:26.12 | benoit | it displays a small green droid with a yellow warning sign ... |
| 23:27.04 | fakker | cant stop laughing |
| 23:27.38 | benoit | ah. this is clockworkmod.... |
| 23:28.00 | benoit | rebooting... rebooting again. |
| 23:28.14 | benoit | is there a serial console to debug ? :-) |
| 23:28.24 | fakker | just flash it |
| 23:28.48 | benoit | it's rebooting on its own... again |
| 23:29.00 | fakker | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WCrIotSdkFA/Sbq3y3obmVI/AAAAAAAABXw/McbmIWOxUVs/s400/benoit+supposed+to+tap+out.jpg |
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| 23:29.45 | benoit | fakker: it's not me :-) |
| 23:29.57 | fakker | lol |
| 23:29.59 | fakker | :D |
| 23:30.05 | benoit | ok. it's rebooting in loop. |
| 23:30.14 | benoit | WTF! |
| 23:30.15 | fakker | can you get into clockwork? |
| 23:30.33 | benoit | how am i supposed to get into ? |
| 23:30.45 | fakker | it just shows android logo? |
| 23:30.49 | benoit | just removes the battery to stop the reboot loop ... |
| 23:30.51 | fakker | what phone? |
| 23:30.55 | benoit | htc desire |
| 23:30.59 | fakker | cool |
| 23:30.59 | fakker | same as me |
| 23:31.09 | arrrghhh | benoit, what are you doing here then |
| 23:31.18 | fakker | relax, join #htc-linux-chat |
| 23:31.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:31.26 | fakker | this is for hardcore |
| 23:31.28 | arrrghhh | i don't 'relax' |
| 23:31.29 | fakker | :D |
| 23:31.33 | benoit | ok. let's move ... |
| 23:31.35 | arrrghhh | just LOOK at my username |
| 23:31.39 | fakker | lol |
| 23:31.47 | fakker | well change to Ahhhhhhhhhh |
| 23:31.48 | fakker | :D |
| 23:32.29 | arrrghhh | hahaha, ppl have been calling me that in the forums, no clue why. |
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| 23:38.57 | arrrghhh | Pohket, i'm home if you want to mess w/da WEP |
| 23:39.37 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, i only have a log from me & you :( |
| 23:39.40 | arrrghhh | XirXes, you there? |
| 23:39.45 | arrrghhh | F22, ? |
| 23:39.57 | rpierce99 | and the dude with major corruption |
| 23:39.58 | XirXes | yeah whats up |
| 23:40.07 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, that was SoD log |
| 23:40.10 | rpierce99 | oh, right |
| 23:40.13 | arrrghhh | XirXes, test new wistilt2 kernel! |
| 23:40.14 | rpierce99 | not system_server |
| 23:40.16 | arrrghhh | i need dmesgs. |
| 23:40.22 | arrrghhh | lots, and lots of dmesgs. |
| 23:40.24 | F22 | what's up Arrrghhh? |
| 23:40.29 | arrrghhh | F22, you too. |
| 23:40.45 | arrrghhh | test wistilt2's new kernel. i want moar dmesgs from system_server conditions basically. |
| 23:41.01 | arrrghhh | not sure if you have to "see the problem thru" so to speak, but i did so he could see the entire ballet play out |
| 23:41.14 | F22 | not sure i understand. |
| 23:41.24 | arrrghhh | F22, read my test kernel post. it'll make more sense. |
| 23:41.33 | rpierce99 | boot, fix system_server, dump dmesg |
| 23:41.34 | rpierce99 | simple |
| 23:41.35 | arrrghhh | just 1st post, i think i included all the goodies. |
| 23:42.29 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2 said my log really helped, so i want to try to get him as many as possible. |
| 23:42.41 | arrrghhh | i didn't really give directions on how to pull dmesg, and i think it's biting me in the butt. |
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| 23:42.49 | arrrghhh | there's like 15 ways to pull it lol |
| 23:42.59 | F22 | lol, yup |
| 23:43.00 | arrrghhh | not sure i want to turn the thread into a how-to adb. |
| 23:43.45 | rpierce99 | i'm sure there's an existing "how to adb/dmesg" somewhere, just link it |
| 23:43.48 | rpierce99 | no one will follow it |
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| 23:43.52 | rpierce99 | because they don't give a damn |
| 23:43.56 | rpierce99 | but you can say you tried |
| 23:43.57 | arrrghhh | i already made a thread on it in fact |
| 23:44.05 | F22 | yup |
| 23:44.07 | F22 | lol |
| 23:44.07 | arrrghhh | i guess i could flesh it out |
| 23:44.11 | F22 | to both statements |
| 23:44.16 | Willd | How to be a noob, the essay |
| 23:44.44 | rpierce99 | Willd: if anyone can teach us how to be noobs it's arrrghhh! |
| 23:44.49 | arrrghhh | step 1. be dumb |
| 23:44.54 | arrrghhh | step 2. don't read |
| 23:44.59 | arrrghhh | step 3. post. a lot. |
| 23:45.02 | arrrghhh | step 4. reapeat |
| 23:45.09 | arrrghhh | s/reapeat/repeat/ |
| 23:45.19 | Willd | step 5. ???? |
| 23:45.23 | arrrghhh | profit! |
| 23:45.25 | Willd | :D |
| 23:45.50 | arrrghhh | i'm still kinda fuzzy on the whole last_kmsg crap. |
| 23:45.56 | arrrghhh | pondering on how he's a noob. |
| 23:46.04 | arrrghhh | i is pondering |
| 23:46.13 | F22 | btw, Pohket believes he may have fixed wep for rhod. he's looking for a tester or two to confirm. |
| 23:46.15 | Willd | arrrghhh: :p |
| 23:46.19 | rpierce99 | yeah I'm not sure I have a handle on it either |
| 23:46.27 | arrrghhh | F22, i know i pinged him when i got home. |
| 23:46.42 | Willd | I'm not entirely sure that I will ever get it.. |
| 23:46.48 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, kinda questioning pulling all my directions. |
| 23:46.52 | XirXes | damn. clean boot |
| 23:46.53 | F22 | he and i had a lengthy discussion on it this morning. |
| 23:46.55 | arrrghhh | i have a feeling i should include both basically. |
| 23:46.59 | arrrghhh | XirXes, did you grab the new kerenl? |
| 23:47.02 | arrrghhh | der. kernel. |
| 23:47.09 | XirXes | yuo |
| 23:47.11 | XirXes | yup |
| 23:47.12 | arrrghhh | ok |
| 23:47.16 | F22 | once he got it working i couldn't help him test it however. no wifi router. |
| 23:47.19 | arrrghhh | do you have your apn hardcoded? |
| 23:47.23 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:47.28 | arrrghhh | F22, win |
| 23:47.36 | XirXes | nope. |
| 23:47.43 | arrrghhh | hrm. |
| 23:47.49 | arrrghhh | i get system_server crap basically every single boot. |
| 23:47.59 | XirXes | i sure dont. that would suck |
| 23:48.02 | arrrghhh | it's EXTREMELY rare to not. |
| 23:48.04 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 23:48.06 | arrrghhh | stupid cdma |
| 23:48.08 | arrrghhh | i blame you! |
| 23:48.17 | rpierce99 | every since I posted about how awesome it was working, haven't had a single boot that didn't system_server |
| 23:48.24 | Willd | CDMA I Choose you! |
| 23:48.30 | gauner1986 | nah |
| 23:48.34 | gauner1986 | i choose gsm |
| 23:48.38 | Willd | gauner1986: Bitch plz |
| 23:48.39 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:48.57 | gauner1986 | sry, no cdma in europe |
| 23:48.59 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 23:49.01 | Willd | gauner1986: lol wat |
| 23:49.06 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 23:49.09 | arrrghhh | they don't have cdma |
| 23:49.11 | Willd | Oh |
| 23:49.12 | Willd | wcdma |
| 23:49.12 | arrrghhh | only asia |
| 23:49.12 | Willd | :D |
| 23:49.13 | gauner1986 | wcdma |
| 23:49.14 | arrrghhh | and usa |
| 23:49.17 | gauner1986 | thats what we have |
| 23:49.25 | gauner1986 | rather umts |
| 23:49.28 | arrrghhh | wcdma is a misnomer too. i don't know wtf they were thinking. |
| 23:49.29 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 23:49.30 | Willd | HSUPA <3 |
| 23:49.39 | Willd | umts is first gen 3g in europe |
| 23:49.46 | Willd | HSDPA |
| 23:49.50 | Willd | Then HSUPA |
| 23:49.57 | gauner1986 | thats state of the art at all providers |
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| 23:49.59 | gauner1986 | next is lte |
| 23:50.01 | XirXes | AWS 4 eva |
| 23:50.01 | gauner1986 | hopefully soon |
| 23:50.08 | Willd | gauner1986: Ersch |
| 23:50.11 | gauner1986 | but of course not in my area |
| 23:50.13 | gauner1986 | as always |
| 23:50.16 | arrrghhh | haha |
| 23:50.18 | stinebd | AMPS or bust |
| 23:50.22 | Willd | gauner1986: LTE won't go mobile phone.. |
| 23:50.22 | arrrghhh | u live in the boonies? |
| 23:50.35 | arrrghhh | Willd, wtf it already has |
| 23:50.46 | Willd | arrrghhh: Sure, but it's meant for data |
| 23:50.53 | arrrghhh | uhm |
| 23:50.58 | gauner1986 | hm.. not really.. it's more like they exclude the small area where i live from good data options |
| 23:50.59 | arrrghhh | they're looking to move everything to data. |
| 23:51.08 | gauner1986 | you can see it on the map |
| 23:51.10 | arrrghhh | as in, all IP |
| 23:51.12 | gauner1986 | looks rather funny |
| 23:51.13 | Willd | Eeek |
| 23:51.16 | gauner1986 | umts all around |
| 23:51.17 | Pr0z | http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/02/android-3-0-honeycomb-can-encrypt-all-your-data-needs-a-full/ |
| 23:51.20 | Pr0z | :O? |
| 23:51.21 | gauner1986 | just one little white place |
| 23:51.22 | Willd | arrrghhh: Only problem is, they don't really want that :) |
| 23:51.27 | gauner1986 | that is my town |
| 23:51.34 | arrrghhh | Willd, "they"? |
| 23:51.37 | Willd | arrrghhh: Because they have to remodel their whole business plan |
| 23:51.42 | Willd | arrrghhh: You "they"'ed first! |
| 23:51.48 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 23:51.54 | XirXes | clean again |
| 23:51.55 | arrrghhh | true |
| 23:52.01 | arrrghhh | XirXes, i hate you. |
| 23:52.05 | Willd | Swedish operators are looking to filter out voip |
| 23:52.20 | arrrghhh | lol that would go over well. |
| 23:55.21 | Pr0z | i love geohot |
| 23:55.22 | Pr0z | :o |
| 23:55.44 | XirXes | thats 3 in a row |
| 23:58.19 | rpierce99 | is jealous of XirXes' clean boots |
| 23:58.50 | arrrghhh | seriously. |
