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| 01:11.15 | arrrghhh | phh, ? |
| 01:11.23 | phh | arrrghhh: congrats ! |
| 01:11.30 | stinebd | ? |
| 01:11.35 | arrrghhh | i'm confused as well |
| 01:11.41 | stinebd | did you have a baby? |
| 01:11.44 | phh | stinebd: he could see me here ! :p |
| 01:12.13 | gauner1986 | who wants to have babies with phh? |
| 01:13.25 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 01:13.36 | arrrghhh | i might've had a baby with phh |
| 01:13.46 | arrrghhh | *shudders* |
| 01:15.04 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 01:15.20 | arrrghhh | anyhoo |
| 01:15.32 | arrrghhh | phh, there's a RIL command i wanted to ask you about related to CDMA netloc... |
| 01:15.44 | arrrghhh | i've been tryin to bug you about it, you may have already read the link from bzo... |
| 01:15.52 | arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5836166#post5836166 |
| 01:17.24 | arrrghhh | i attempted pulling the git repo for the RIL... no success. |
| 01:17.28 | arrrghhh | something about a header error? |
| 01:23.15 | gauner1986 | someone with a htc vision here? |
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| 01:49.33 | tipper | gauner or any dev here? |
| 01:49.59 | gauner1986 | yes |
| 01:50.10 | tipper | ok let me till something about i2c |
| 01:50.20 | tipper | I just spoke to g.lewarne |
| 01:50.28 | tipper | a good winmo developer |
| 01:50.45 | tipper | and he said that default winmo rom has i2c polling time at 20 ms |
| 01:51.34 | tipper | he changed a value for it to let it interrupt |
| 01:52.02 | tipper | so the device was getting much faster |
| 01:52.16 | tipper | I am talking about polling for cpu btw |
| 01:52.55 | tipper | it wasnt causing issues but maybe on android for some reason it does |
| 01:53.06 | gauner1986 | will be best if you talk about that with markinus, he's more into it |
| 01:53.44 | gauner1986 | for myself i don't have serious issues regarding i2c at the moment |
| 01:54.42 | tipper | me also neither but you can always improve ;) anyway can you pass this info to markinus maybe. I am not so much on chat as you |
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| 01:55.01 | gauner1986 | yeah, i'll talk with him tomorrow |
| 01:57.00 | tipper | ok thx hope this can solve it. And btw thankyou for everything you guys gave us on android:) and dont forget sleep well |
| 01:57.25 | tipper | bye |
| 01:57.33 | gauner1986 | goodnight |
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| 03:39.43 | WisTilt2 | Finally, this week ends! |
| 03:42.15 | arrrghhh | heyhey! |
| 03:42.20 | WisTilt2 | bzo: when you got a minute i have some questions about the pll clocks you might have some insight about |
| 03:42.21 | arrrghhh | what's shakin man! |
| 03:42.27 | WisTilt2 | hey arrrghhh:) |
| 03:44.39 | WisTilt2 | confirmed the SOD is clock issues coming out of sleep, just need some more info from bzo hopefully. also, got some more info on that system server prob but its a bit more complicated. |
| 03:45.11 | arrrghhh | ha |
| 03:45.18 | arrrghhh | so wha'd you find on the system_server issue? |
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| 03:49.16 | WisTilt2 | system server prob seems to be in the area during acquiring the data setup. it is not happening if you disable hsdpa/hsupa, therefore, 3g only. something isnt syncing in that mode and gets stuck in a loop in ril somewhere. thats as far as ive got but definitely ril related in the data portion not the carrier signal aquire, if that makes sense. |
| 03:49.39 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 03:49.47 | WisTilt2 | thats why with netloc off it doesnt happen |
| 03:49.48 | arrrghhh | well i was right about the RIL |
| 03:49.52 | stinebd | WisTilt2: why would i be seeing it without a sim card then? |
| 03:50.17 | WisTilt2 | hi stinebd. without sim card you still have data dont you? |
| 03:50.29 | stinebd | er, no... without a sim card, the network doesn't let you on |
| 03:51.01 | arrrghhh | yea you have no phone service at that point |
| 03:51.44 | stinebd | i see the issue much less often, but it still shows up occasionally |
| 03:52.24 | WisTilt2 | it still must be trying to establish data then, at least whatever code runs for that is still trying. i disabled hsdpa and re-enabled numerous times, almost every time with it on i saw the high cpu load |
| 03:53.01 | WisTilt2 | with it off it never happens |
| 03:53.17 | stinebd | so what you're saying is that it's all phh's fault |
| 03:53.24 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 03:54.16 | WisTilt2 | ? dont know who wrote what but it started several months ago. |
| 03:54.46 | arrrghhh | phh did quite a bit of the RIL work |
| 03:54.49 | arrrghhh | with MrPippy |
| 03:54.56 | arrrghhh | and uh... wasn't there someone else? |
| 03:55.12 | stinebd | mrpippy was cdma |
| 03:55.33 | WisTilt2 | did they make a change several months ago around the time this started showing up? |
| 03:55.41 | stinebd | ril hasn't changed in years |
| 03:56.07 | stinebd | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril |
| 03:56.13 | WisTilt2 | whats strange is it does not happen at all with the rootfs prior to september |
| 03:56.16 | arrrghhh | yea it really hasn't had a commit in a while |
| 03:56.22 | stinebd | may 17 was his last commit of substance |
| 03:56.25 | arrrghhh | so it's stinebd's fault |
| 03:59.27 | WisTilt2 | if you run rootfs from sept 17, 951921b it doesnt happen. i didnt try rootfs one by one after that so not sure exactly which one it starts on, i just went back to that sept17 one and problem gone. |
| 04:03.26 | arrrghhh | hrm. updated kernel tho? |
| 04:03.32 | arrrghhh | you just went back to an old rootfs? |
| 04:04.54 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i also have a RIL-related question for ya... hopin to get netloc working for CDMA. |
| 04:04.55 | WisTilt2 | same current kernel |
| 04:05.15 | arrrghhh | ok. i guess i should try that... see if there is a particular rootfs where i can't recreate the issue. |
| 04:05.42 | arrrghhh | would that cause issues with the system image at all stinebd ? |
| 04:06.24 | stinebd | what? |
| 04:06.28 | stinebd | rolling back rootfs? |
| 04:06.40 | arrrghhh | yea |
| 04:07.09 | stinebd | maybe for 3d with this new release but it shouldn't be fatal |
| 04:07.15 | arrrghhh | cool |
| 04:10.42 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: you working on getting netloc working on cdma? |
| 04:11.23 | arrrghhh | working isn't quite the right term |
| 04:12.01 | arrrghhh | i'd like to get netloc working for CDMA, and bzo found a post from the DIAM section about a Vogue guy talking about a RIL command that got netloc working on that device. |
| 04:12.24 | arrrghhh | i'm not sure if the command he's talking about is in the RIL - i tried pulling the repo for the RIL, and failed horribly. |
| 04:13.41 | WisTilt2 | you have the url to that post? ril isnt really my area but can take a look and maybe figure something out. |
| 04:14.01 | arrrghhh | certainly! |
| 04:14.09 | arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5836166#post5836166 |
| 04:19.25 | WisTilt2 | this is something my ril programmer can probably fix but i cant put him on this until he's done with our company project and we get it off to be certified. |
| 04:26.54 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, completely understand. |
| 04:27.11 | arrrghhh | i'm just not able to even pull the repo down |
| 04:30.04 | arrrghhh | i'm also not sure who can look at it, other than phh |
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| 04:32.07 | arrrghhh | looks like him and MrPippy can commit to it. |
| 04:41.52 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: is this frx04 announce that just came through the list mean the nextgen is ready for the masses or is this a test build? |
| 04:42.46 | arrrghhh | no gingerbread |
| 04:43.27 | WisTilt2 | so froyo is obsolete? what new goodies? |
| 04:43.52 | arrrghhh | still froyo, frx04. just graphics stuff integrated and 'minor' security stuff per sir stine |
| 04:44.07 | arrrghhh | that libGLES and gralloc stuff. |
| 04:45.33 | WisTilt2 | guess i need to read the forums more often, kind of got away from that months ago so not up to speed on everything going on. |
| 04:45.53 | arrrghhh | lots of drivel. |
| 04:45.56 | arrrghhh | full of noobs |
| 04:46.07 | arrrghhh | i shelter the devs from the noobs (as best i can) :P |
| 04:47.03 | WisTilt2 | you do a good job at that |
| 04:47.30 | arrrghhh | e-bouncer |
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| 04:55.34 | bzo | hey WisTilt2 |
| 04:56.02 | WisTilt2 | hey bzo, just the man im looking for |
| 04:56.27 | bzo | yeah saw you had a question about plls? |
| 04:57.38 | F22 | WisTilt2: Interesting observation regarding the rootfs. 951921b was committed Sept 16th btw. I guess you were looking at the timestamp on the file instead of the commit date? f43abbb1 was committed Sept 17th. |
| 04:57.43 | WisTilt2 | do you know what order the clocks are turned on coming out of sleep? |
| 04:58.17 | WisTilt2 | F22: yeah timestamp was 17th but 951921b is the one i tried. |
| 04:58.56 | bzo | no, the a9 controls that and I imagine it would be really hard to figure out |
| 04:59.16 | bzo | but for our purposes I think we can consider them all turned on at the same time |
| 04:59.36 | WisTilt2 | bzo, reason i ask is it looks like the SOD thats happening coming out of sleep is one or more clocks aren't fully up before resume functions run so im thinking a delay is needed in there somewhere. |
| 05:00.00 | bzo | does the sod only happen oc'ed or stock also? |
| 05:00.49 | WisTilt2 | i only see it when oc'd but i think others see it without, arrrghhh could better answer that. it happens in mode 1 and 2 when oc'd so dont think its a mode issue. |
| 05:02.00 | bzo | if it happens in mode 2, probably not a pll problem. Pretty sure the plls are not shut down in that mode |
| 05:02.36 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh any people reporting sleep mode 2 not having the sod problem? |
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| 05:04.46 | bzo | so, I'm down to a 1.5%/hour battery drain WisTilt2 |
| 05:05.24 | bzo | the fix? Using the correct battery for my phone! LOL |
| 05:06.01 | WisTilt2 | correct battery? what were you running one of those lower ma rated junk ones:) |
| 05:06.09 | stinebd | WisTilt2: like arrrghhh said, FRX series (2.2.x) are froyo. GRX (2.3.x) will be gingerbread |
| 05:06.34 | bzo | WisTilt2: exactly, that's what I get for buying a junk one from ebay |
| 05:06.54 | WisTilt2 | stinebd: guess i should have figured that out, jeeze, frx grx lol. getting old i guess |
| 05:07.52 | bzo | perhaps it will get a little better with some more panel tweaks? |
| 05:08.01 | WisTilt2 | yeah we got taken with junk batts also. we bought 10 of them for all our phones and they all turned out to be something like 1000ma knockoffs. |
| 05:08.48 | bzo | what is hilarious is the poor job they did faking the rating |
| 05:09.44 | bzo | the junk one says 1500mah, but 4wh which is the rating for 1100mah. If they faked it properly, it would be like 5.5wh |
| 05:09.45 | WisTilt2 | are you getting 1.5% with my panel collapse or just the public kernel? im still getting under 1% consistently, almost .5% in total standby overnight. |
| 05:10.19 | arrrghhh | sorry WisTilt2... the SoD issue definitely occured with sleep mod of 2 |
| 05:10.27 | bzo | WisTilt2: with your panel collapse |
| 05:10.28 | arrrghhh | s/mod/mode/ |
| 05:12.01 | WisTilt2 | bzo: did i give you the mddi_power that also has the gpio and dex stuff or just the vreg disable/enable? |
| 05:12.26 | bzo | just the vreg |
| 05:14.04 | WisTilt2 | actually i dont think the dex make any difference that i can measure. try adding gpio 0x61-63 in the on/off states also, that should drop you another noticable amount. |
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| 05:16.12 | WisTilt2 | there is also a gp6 (or gp9 dont remember which) that needs to be added to vreg disable/enable but havent tried it yet. |
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| 05:17.22 | WisTilt2 | bzo: even at 1.5% thats something like 65hours, not bad at all. there's more to gain though, just need to tweak it more. |
| 05:18.05 | bzo | yeah, definitely getting to the usable range. That's probably 2 days of light but real use |
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| 05:18.59 | arrrghhh | which is freakin fantastic! |
| 05:19.00 | WisTilt2 | are you having to touch the unlock part of the screen often to get the graphics to display? |
| 05:19.12 | arrrghhh | does |
| 05:19.25 | bzo | pretty much every time |
| 05:19.32 | arrrghhh | but if it does wake, it will immediately when i touch the screen. |
| 05:19.45 | arrrghhh | i've had several SoD's with the wifi tether enabled tho. |
| 05:19.51 | bzo | also see that initial dimness |
| 05:21.44 | WisTilt2 | im sure its a timing issue. i need to stick some printk's in unblank and mddi_power to see timing between the two. i think unblank either gets called before or during power, just havent traced back what calls each of those in what order. |
| 05:22.32 | bzo | full battery rundown tests are getting somewhat tedious to run now :) 47% @ 33 hours |
| 05:22.33 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh is the phone in sleep when tethered when sod happens? |
| 05:22.58 | WisTilt2 | bzo: good problem to have lol |
| 05:23.39 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, no, LED is normally orange. |
| 05:23.41 | WisTilt2 | need to stick a ma meter inline with batt to get real drain. was going to do that awhile back but never got around to it. |
| 05:24.37 | bzo | yeah me too. There's too many factors to try to test changes with battery % alone |
| 05:24.47 | bzo | not to mention how tedious it is to monitor |
| 05:26.35 | WisTilt2 | did camro ever find the register to read that outputs the current drain? one of our company phones runs the energy rom and its battery status shows the actual ma drain in realtime so its readable somewhere. |
| 05:28.34 | bzo | I think the current drain has always been available |
| 05:28.49 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: does sod happen in tether while you're using data or only when idle? |
| 05:28.54 | bzo | but it won't read during sleep |
| 05:29.56 | WisTilt2 | wheres the info for that? microp or a direct register read? |
| 05:31.24 | bzo | all the battery stuff is in the same smem registers |
| 05:31.33 | bzo | but it requires a dex call to get them refreshed |
| 05:32.19 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, believe it or not, the WAP stays up usually. |
| 05:32.25 | arrrghhh | so maybe it's not a complete SoD? |
| 05:32.51 | arrrghhh | i've occasionally had SoD where the kbd bl still turns off/on, but screen won't wake for anything. |
| 05:33.26 | arrrghhh | most of the time it's completely dead, won't respond at all. |
| 05:33.55 | WisTilt2 | if kbd bl still works phone isnt locked up hard of course. have you tried touching the unlock on screen by chance? |
| 05:34.31 | arrrghhh | oh yea |
| 05:34.36 | arrrghhh | i always go for that :D |
| 05:34.44 | arrrghhh | i try every button |
| 05:34.49 | arrrghhh | slide open/close kbd |
| 05:34.58 | arrrghhh | i make sure it's truly in an SoD state |
| 05:35.17 | arrrghhh | as long as my patience allows, haha |
| 05:35.30 | WisTilt2 | is panel totally off also or is its backlight lit? |
| 05:35.41 | arrrghhh | panel totally off |
| 05:35.57 | arrrghhh | never get anything out of the panel with SoD |
| 05:36.13 | arrrghhh | usually if i see the bl come on, the screen will come on eventually |
| 05:37.31 | WisTilt2 | next time it does that can you leave it sit for say 5mins or so and see if it starts getting warm? |
| 05:39.13 | WisTilt2 | wondering if cpu is pegged in never never land or if everything is fully froze up. |
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| 05:43.55 | arrrghhh | i've done that a few times |
| 05:43.56 | arrrghhh | and yes |
| 05:43.59 | arrrghhh | it's usually on fire |
| 05:44.05 | arrrghhh | but it doesn't help that wifi tether is on |
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| 05:45.34 | WisTilt2 | would be nice if we could get some log dumps in that state |
| 05:46.44 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh what kernel are you running? |
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| 05:47.41 | arrrghhh | WisTilt2, i switch between the cam testing kernel, 1253 (newest from GIT) and yours. |
| 05:47.47 | arrrghhh | mostly 1253 tho honestly. |
| 05:48.37 | WisTilt2 | which of mine are you using? |
| 05:49.07 | arrrghhh | newest that you gave me |
| 05:49.08 | arrrghhh | jan 2? |
| 05:49.32 | WisTilt2 | did that one have the full panel collapse? |
| 05:54.13 | WisTilt2 | bzo: what kernel are you using when you have to touch the unlock to turn on display? |
| 05:55.26 | bzo | jb tree, which is pretty much current with the main tree, plus the vreg only panel power |
| 05:58.11 | WisTilt2 | interesting thing, i just commented out the vreg disable/enable and panel wakes every time without having to touch it. that really makes me think timing is the problem since vregs need time to stabilize on power up and unblank must be getting called before they're stable. |
| 05:59.02 | WisTilt2 | panel itself needs minimum 120ms on power up but vregs need time also since they're turned on well after panel power is. |
| 05:59.18 | WisTilt2 | and i have no waits in that sequence |
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| 06:02.06 | arrrghhh | sorry lol the jan2 kernel has your full panel collapse |
| 06:02.11 | arrrghhh | just not for the AUO panel :P |
| 06:03.08 | bzo | WisTilt2: are you currently using gpios 0x61-63 in your panel stuff? |
| 06:04.23 | WisTilt2 | locally yes but in earlier tests one of those gpios killed the rhod 400. |
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| 06:04.43 | bzo | where did the 61 come from? It is not documented in the wiki |
| 06:05.44 | WisTilt2 | 61 is for the rhod 300, dont know if its the same on others |
| 06:06.16 | bzo | so that's the one that kills the 400? seems that acl doesn't use that one either in his source |
| 06:06.23 | WisTilt2 | it might have been 61 that killed the 400, i had all 3 in the test |
| 06:08.29 | WisTilt2 | in your mddi_power what delay do you have after the enable vreg's? |
| 06:10.49 | WisTilt2 | arrrghhh: do you still have to touch the panel when running 1253? |
| 06:10.55 | bzo | none I think |
| 06:11.09 | bzo | hmm, seems like 61 might be vsync |
| 06:12.44 | WisTilt2 | bzo: add msleep(100) and see if panel wakes normally. that fixed it on mine. just picked 100ms for starters so need to find the lowest delay it needs, not that anyone would notice 100ms during wakeup. |
| 06:13.30 | bzo | wow, I just noticed, even with the phone sleeping for 34 hours, the clock is correct |
| 06:13.52 | WisTilt2 | you running clocksync? |
| 06:13.58 | bzo | no, nothing |
| 06:14.43 | WisTilt2 | wonder if alex's clocks fixed that? ive been using clocksync since before then so dont know. |
| 06:15.18 | bzo | could be another nice side effect of jb's clocks (which I'm running, not alex's) |
| 06:15.33 | bzo | btw, did I mention that hq youtube works with jb's clocks? |
| 06:16.06 | WisTilt2 | no, you mean smooth now without all the skips and freezes? |
| 06:16.15 | bzo | yes, perfectly |
| 06:17.39 | WisTilt2 | sounds like he's getting a lot more done now with a rhod in his arsenal |
| 06:18.10 | bzo | this was actually the code he wrote even before the rhod, it is generic to all the devices |
| 06:18.11 | arrrghhh | realy? |
| 06:18.15 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 06:18.26 | arrrghhh | is that only in jb's tree? |
| 06:18.48 | bzo | yeah, and it may be a while before it's merged |
| 06:18.55 | arrrghhh | damn. |
| 06:19.02 | arrrghhh | that guy does some good work |
| 06:19.05 | bzo | there is a little bit of controversy over how closely it mimics the wince stuff |
| 06:19.10 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 06:19.54 | bzo | his camera test kernels have those clocks though |
| 06:20.12 | bzo | and the camera needs all that stuff |
| 06:20.21 | arrrghhh | oic |
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| 06:20.46 | bzo | so when that stuff finally gets merged, we'll get camera and hq youtube, and possibly fixed time for sleep |
| 06:20.48 | arrrghhh | that kernel seems less stable, but i do love the cam. |
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| 06:23.38 | bzo | WisTilt2: those lcd power gpios are reversed right? on=0/off=1? |
| 06:25.38 | WisTilt2 | reversed? im setting them = 1 in unblank, 0 in blank |
| 06:26.32 | arrrghhh | i'm going to test hq youtoooobs in the cam kernel. i'm just curious now :P |
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| 06:28.53 | bzo | holy crap, car just crashed in front of my house |
| 06:29.10 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 06:29.16 | arrrghhh | live in front of a busy street? |
| 06:29.26 | WisTilt2 | damn, at least it didn't crash into your house! |
| 06:29.32 | bzo | relatively so |
| 06:29.36 | arrrghhh | lol, good point! |
| 06:29.52 | bzo | first thought was those damn punks better not have hit my car! |
| 06:29.59 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 06:30.00 | WisTilt2 | lol |
| 06:30.14 | arrrghhh | is glad to have a garage... and a driveway :P |
| 06:30.23 | bzo | damn, looks like the dude just crashed into the back of a parked car full speed |
| 06:30.33 | bzo | didn't even hear brakes |
| 06:30.34 | arrrghhh | damn |
| 06:30.38 | arrrghhh | probably drunk |
| 06:30.43 | arrrghhh | is he tryin to jet? |
| 06:31.00 | bzo | no, for one he is probably pretty stunned |
| 06:31.12 | bzo | second, a lady ran out yelling hey that's my car |
| 06:31.19 | arrrghhh | shit |
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| 06:39.13 | bzo | WisTilt2: do you still use microplkt_panel_suspend() in blank/unblank? |
| 06:42.01 | WisTilt2 | not in the new version that ill be committing. autobl is done outside of microp now but was tricky getting the panel setup right for it to work. |
| 06:44.22 | WisTilt2 | one problem is if autobl is set in winmo without microp setting things up there is a lot of registers to config in the panel. |
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| 06:48.46 | bzo | hmm, now 2 police cars have arrived |
| 06:48.56 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 06:49.01 | arrrghhh | put the drugs away bzo |
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| 06:51.56 | WisTilt2 | nite guys, ill catch ya'll tomorrow night. |
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| 07:28.00 | arrrghhh | cam works, hq youtooobs does not. hrm. |
| 07:28.30 | arrrghhh | bzo, do you overclock? |
| 07:30.16 | bzo | you need pretty fast internet to stream hq. Do you have a strong signal or are on you on wifi? |
| 07:30.27 | arrrghhh | 3g, i'll try it on wifi |
| 07:30.40 | arrrghhh | i let it buffer |
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| 07:34.06 | arrrghhh | yea, doesn't seem any different on wifi... hrm. |
| 07:34.37 | arrrghhh | phone's not running slow by any means. regular quality works perfectly. |
| 07:34.57 | arrrghhh | hrm i wonder if the app is different. i've always been going in thru the browser.... |
| 07:35.48 | bzo | I'm using the youtube app |
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| 10:11.25 | imilka | ~seen mdeejay |
| 10:11.29 | apt | mdeejay <~mdeejay@188.168.168.101> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 10d 22h 37m 8s ago, saying: 'жеÑÑÑ'. |
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| 13:09.17 | dcordes | hi |
| 13:09.22 | dcordes | ~seen [Rapunzel] |
| 13:09.28 | apt | [rapunzel] <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 15h 3m 7s ago, saying: 'NetRipper, I have project but I manage only to push pull changes. then I understand it's too complex ;-)'. |
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| 13:26.52 | dcordes | what does '1. Boot AD SD' do exactly ? |
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| 13:28.48 | Rajko | dcordes, load initrd and zimage from root or subfolder of sdcard |
| 13:28.51 | Rajko | execute into |
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| 13:30.34 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.37 | dcordes | what subfolder ? |
| 13:30.58 | dcordes | what cmdline does it set ? |
| 13:31.30 | Rajko | subfolder defined by subfolder chooser in settings |
| 13:31.32 | Rajko | default is root |
| 13:31.41 | dcordes | ok |
| 13:31.44 | Rajko | cmdline set is rel_path=/subfolder |
| 13:31.49 | dcordes | lol |
| 13:31.50 | dcordes | sucks |
| 13:32.38 | dcordes | well it would be good to set cmdline |
| 13:32.47 | dcordes | maybe read it from file |
| 13:32.57 | Rajko | derr |
| 13:34.38 | dcordes | ok does magldr send any i2c init stuff ? |
| 13:34.46 | dcordes | touchscreen doesn't work . |
| 13:34.52 | plupke | or like grub changeble when you pause it |
| 13:35.26 | dcordes | plupke: hi are you plopper on xda ? |
| 13:35.32 | plupke | yep |
| 13:35.37 | Rajko | dcordes, nope, patch is in kernel |
| 13:35.52 | dcordes | Rajko: do you have the git link ? |
| 13:36.02 | Rajko | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc |
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| 13:37.15 | dcordes | msm_ts: add support for invert x/y axes |
| 13:37.18 | dcordes | that's good |
| 13:37.37 | dcordes | how is it called ? |
| 13:37.43 | dcordes | from user space |
| 13:37.52 | plupke | all spam on htc-linux is blanked out couldn't delete the pages tho but they are nearly all marked with spam in the comment |
| 13:38.49 | plupke | saw the manual for the hub? |
| 13:38.56 | dcordes | hands plupke the htc-linux medal of honour |
| 13:39.06 | dcordes | yes awesome! I can link it in the news section if you like |
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| 13:39.27 | plupke | bows down to recieve it in honor |
| 13:39.40 | plupke | cool |
| 13:40.03 | gauner1986 | hi |
| 13:40.05 | plupke | next project is a battery pack but that has to wait untill i'm home gotta find a suitable battery |
| 13:40.54 | Rajko | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_on_wince_htc/commit/a0fc58df35602d8c76cc4fa586b8b1865da3b92a is what fixes the TS dcordes |
| 13:41.19 | dcordes | we must crack down on the bot user creation in wiki |
| 13:41.25 | dcordes | else the problem will never be solved |
| 13:41.44 | plupke | got 2 possible solutions for that |
| 13:42.00 | dcordes | recaptcha plugin seems to not work |
| 13:42.00 | plupke | 1 sucks manual check on changes for commiting |
| 13:42.12 | dcordes | that's not good... |
| 13:42.20 | dcordes | Rajko: thanks! |
| 13:42.22 | plupke | 2 i know of a anti spam firewall but thats bsd and no idea what the name was |
| 13:42.58 | dcordes | we might as well do email confirmation |
| 13:43.20 | plupke | email is good indeed |
| 13:43.23 | dcordes | for user creation |
| 13:43.59 | plupke | i can ask about the spam firewall, a friend uses it reguarly but i'm afraid you'd have to change to pf firewall for it |
| 13:44.39 | plupke | eerh ip firewall |
| 13:44.51 | dcordes | Rajko: is it power on problem ? |
| 13:45.10 | dcordes | plupke: I am sure we can solve the problem on mediawiki level |
| 13:46.43 | plupke | lock link creation on new users that would do the trick |
| 13:46.56 | plupke | just like on xda |
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| 14:34.02 | phh | stinebd: concerning the thing with RIL that I don't understand, isn't the time of breaking when you built the RIL yourself that mine ? |
| 14:34.03 | phh | if it's the case, please note that I was building against android-2.0 sources |
| 14:34.06 | phh | i'm not suer what it would change but wel |
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| 14:48.24 | Curious_ | heyyo |
| 14:49.36 | Curious_ | oh people are busy wathing "adult" moviez |
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| 15:42.16 | Topika | Hi everyone |
| 15:42.30 | Topika | I'm so happy for your hard work! |
| 15:42.57 | Topika | I've just got andorid on my TP" |
| 15:43.19 | Topika | TP2* rhod500, congratuliations for your hadr work |
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| 15:43.44 | Topika | I'll donate ! keep your hard work guys |
| 15:44.10 | Topika | ^^! I hope you keep this project |
| 15:44.24 | Topika | See ya, and thanks you a lot!!!! |
| 15:44.31 | Topika | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:15.48 | arrrghhh | lol is cyanogen no longer drunk? |
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| 18:23.24 | ManWithAPlan | so many people keep complaining about dual-boot NAND |
| 18:23.35 | Samsungu_ | Why? |
| 18:23.47 | ManWithAPlan | IDK they just want more and more |
| 18:24.00 | ManWithAPlan | lots of discussions goin on at XDA |
| 18:24.05 | gauner1986 | tell them to do diy :P |
| 18:24.12 | ManWithAPlan | lol yeah |
| 18:24.18 | Samsunguy | Xda is stupid |
| 18:24.56 | ManWithAPlan | no its just a lot of the people who go on Xda are stupid lol |
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| 18:25.53 | arrrghhh | ManWithAPlan, i'd just keep it at "A lot of people are stupid." |
| 18:26.08 | ManWithAPlan | ok right i meant that |
| 18:26.11 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:26.57 | Samsunguy | arrrghhh for example is on :D |
| 18:27.19 | arrrghhh | oh right, from the dunce that works for MetroPCS? |
| 18:27.37 | Samsunguy | :) |
| 18:28.08 | Samsunguy | I can quit anytime |
| 18:28.30 | arrrghhh | yea, but you'll always be a dunce ;) |
| 18:29.00 | arrrghhh | I guess i should say coming from a dunce who bought an iPad. your particular place of employment doesn't lend directly to stupidity. that, however, does. |
| 18:29.02 | Samsunguy | Yea and you'll always be angry :D |
| 18:29.11 | arrrghhh | hahahaha if you say so |
| 18:30.11 | Samsunguy | I'm waiting for iPad 2 and HP PalmPad |
| 18:30.28 | imilka | facepalmpad |
| 18:31.08 | arrrghhh | lmao |
| 18:31.20 | arrrghhh | Samsunguy, you really do have more money then you know what do to with eh? |
| 18:31.49 | Samsunguy | If you say so..... |
| 18:32.15 | arrrghhh | you're the one doin it |
| 18:32.44 | Samsunguy | Hehe |
| 18:33.17 | Samsunguy | What's so wrong about iPad other than ios |
| 18:33.34 | g3rm | hmmm -chat? |
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| 19:27.38 | Microang | Hi I was just wondering if this would be possible and if any devs could look into it if possible... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917960 |
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| 19:32.39 | charansingh | anyone online |
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| 19:50.04 | charansingh | anyone have a working 2.6.35 kernel for hd2? |
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| 19:59.03 | ali1234 | Microang: it should be possible |
| 19:59.26 | [Rapunzel] | no, it's not possible |
| 19:59.36 | ali1234 | anything is possible |
| 20:01.33 | ali1234 | it certainly would be possible with WM6 and earlier |
| 20:02.03 | [Rapunzel] | why? |
| 20:02.14 | ali1234 | because on WM6 the nand has a partition table |
| 20:02.25 | ali1234 | for example, the extrom is a separate partition |
| 20:02.42 | ali1234 | you could shrink it and add a new partition for linux |
| 20:02.56 | ali1234 | i don't know of any tools to do this but it would be possible to make them |
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| 20:03.17 | ali1234 | i have never seen a 7 rom but i doubt it is much different |
| 20:03.56 | [Rapunzel] | u talking about old mdoc devices? |
| 20:04.10 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 20:04.23 | threeagle | is anyone else getting stuck on go go go! with magldr 1.12? |
| 20:04.30 | ali1234 | even if you can't do that you could still create a loopback filesystem in the WP7 filesystem |
| 20:04.45 | ali1234 | and add a kernel driver to mount that as root |
| 20:05.07 | ali1234 | would still be faster than SD root |
| 20:06.03 | ali1234 | of course this is assuming the internal memory on the device actually has enough space for two OS, which is not necessarily the case |
| 20:06.55 | [Rapunzel] | heh |
| 20:07.02 | [Rapunzel] | it's all theory |
| 20:08.59 | ali1234 | of course |
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| 20:09.10 | ali1234 | it's not possible today. it would take a lot of work |
| 20:09.36 | [Rapunzel] | hehe |
| 20:09.47 | [Rapunzel] | actually not all posible |
| 20:09.59 | [Rapunzel] | because people have limited abilities |
| 20:10.54 | ali1234 | this is a developer channel after all... |
| 20:11.05 | [Rapunzel] | yes.... |
| 20:11.09 | [Rapunzel] | u think me isn't developer? |
| 20:11.35 | ali1234 | "possible" means something different if you are a developer, i think |
| 20:12.13 | [Rapunzel] | yes, "possible" means for me, if it possible to do by 2-3 hobby developers |
| 20:12.48 | ali1234 | sure, 2-3 hobby developers could do this in about a month, i reckon |
| 20:12.59 | [Rapunzel] | I dunno about it |
| 20:13.00 | ali1234 | if they actually wanted to do it |
| 20:13.23 | ali1234 | dual boot from nand would be pretty low on the priority list though, after making everything else work |
| 20:13.37 | ali1234 | plus the hardware churn |
| 20:13.38 | [Rapunzel] | heh |
| 20:13.47 | ali1234 | if HTC stopped making new phones it would probably happen |
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| 20:14.00 | ali1234 | but people would rather work on the newest hardware |
| 20:14.23 | [Rapunzel] | anyway leo rulezzz |
| 20:14.27 | [Rapunzel] | :P |
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| 20:28.25 | fakker | [Rapunzel] learn to develop plz |
| 20:28.34 | fakker | i joke ;D |
| 20:30.05 | [Rapunzel] | okay |
| 20:30.10 | [Rapunzel] | learn me fakker |
| 20:30.26 | fakker | ok, /query fakker |
| 20:33.09 | Microang | Just one thing... Magldr does have the option to boot either from nand regardless of what is installed so wouldn't it be possible to flash both at once? |
| 20:33.31 | Microang | as a hybrid rom if both are cooked together? |
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| 20:36.45 | [Rapunzel] | because each system must support this type of install I guess |
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| 22:10.33 | NetRipper | in arm asm, what is #1f? |
| 22:10.42 | NetRipper | mov r0, #1f |
| 22:10.43 | NetRipper | what is in r0? |
| 22:11.13 | [Rapunzel] | 31 |
| 22:11.28 | NetRipper | it's not 0x1f |
| 22:11.34 | [Rapunzel] | where u found it? |
| 22:11.51 | NetRipper | haret |
| 22:11.52 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.53 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.59 | [Rapunzel] | or maybe it's label |
| 22:12.01 | [Rapunzel] | 1 forward |
| 22:12.02 | NetRipper | ah |
| 22:12.06 | [Rapunzel] | heh |
| 22:12.06 | NetRipper | that makes sense |
| 22:12.10 | [Rapunzel] | this awful place |
| 22:12.12 | [Rapunzel] | :D |
| 22:12.14 | NetRipper | there is a label "1:" yes |
| 22:12.34 | [Rapunzel] | what u forgot there? ;) |
| 22:12.35 | NetRipper | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/haret/haret.git;a=blob;f=src/wince/asmstuff.S;h=076c6aeba51262b23a30801ce2189ef7e16a2c5c;hb=HEAD |
| 22:12.43 | NetRipper | line 172 |
| 22:12.49 | NetRipper | how do you mean? |
| 22:12.53 | [Rapunzel] | right |
| 22:12.56 | [Rapunzel] | 1 forward |
| 22:13.02 | NetRipper | yea, it's not code by me :P |
| 22:13.15 | NetRipper | i might maintain haret currently but i dont know everything about it ;) |
| 22:13.33 | [Rapunzel] | okay |
| 22:14.35 | NetRipper | thanks |
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| 22:24.11 | stinebd | phh: according to wistilt2, it was bisected to the rootfs 951921b from 17 september. froyo ril hasn't been touched since its initial import 25 june |
| 22:27.36 | stinebd | hmm |
| 22:27.50 | stinebd | i wonder when we rearranged the prelink map |
| 22:28.36 | torgrimt | is there any way of getting some debug info from the bootup process on htc g1? |
| 22:28.47 | torgrimt | i only get the nice tmobile logo and it just hangs there |
| 22:29.00 | stinebd | phh: think changing the prelink map on 12 sept could have anything to do with it? |
| 22:29.43 | stinebd | but still, all rootfs's should be broken then |
| 22:29.44 | phh | stinebd: could be, but highly unlikely |
| 22:30.01 | phh | especially if its' properly built |
| 22:30.34 | stinebd | md5sums are different for the rootfs ril and the one that got generated in the frx04 build |
| 22:30.47 | stinebd | as is size by some bytes |
| 22:31.12 | stinebd | -rwxr-xr-x 1 bryan bryan 50676 Jan 21 21:40 out/target/product/msm/system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so |
| 22:31.13 | stinebd | -rwxr-xr-x 1 bryan bryan 50664 Jul 23 2010 ../rootfs/eclair-rootfs/lib/froyo/libhtcgeneric-ril.so |
| 22:31.24 | stinebd | maybe i should drop it in and see what happens |
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| 23:02.27 | charansingh | I am almost done with HD2 vendor for CM7 , any one wanna lend a hand? |
| 23:04.16 | Samsunguy | With what? |
| 23:04.56 | charansingh | some kernel |
| 23:05.02 | charansingh | n testing |
| 23:05.17 | torgrimt | guys im alittle stuck here. im trying to install openmoko on my old g1. but it wont boot the kernel. followed the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_on_HTC-Dream |
| 23:05.30 | torgrimt | it seems to either go into a reboot loop, or just show lines on the screen |
| 23:05.41 | torgrimt | any usefull tips on debugging what goes wrong in the boot? |
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| 23:06.44 | charansingh_ | i dont have an hd2 to test |
| 23:06.46 | stinebd | phh: make our cpu spend less time on mmcqd. thanks. |
| 23:07.47 | GNUtoo|Laptop | hi |
| 23:07.53 | GNUtoo|Laptop | I've that: |
| 23:07.59 | GNUtoo|Laptop | MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(29) |
| 23:08.06 | phh | stinebd: meh ? |
| 23:08.13 | GNUtoo|Laptop | how can I know the correspondance with the real gpio number |
| 23:08.13 | phh | ah that's a request |
| 23:08.16 | GNUtoo|Laptop | like in: |
| 23:08.29 | charansingh_ | anyone wanna lend a heand in testing |
| 23:08.30 | GNUtoo|Laptop | /sys/class/gpio/ |
| 23:08.41 | GNUtoo|Laptop | torgrimt, hi |
| 23:08.52 | phh | stinebd: try nilfs2 as FS instead of ext2/3 :D |
| 23:08.55 | stinebd | phh: think of it as a demand ;) |
| 23:09.03 | stinebd | nilfs2? |
| 23:09.03 | GNUtoo|Laptop | torgrimt, I'm not sure theses instructions are up to date |
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| 23:09.33 | phh | stinebd: nilfs2. that's a journalised (a true one. not like ext3) FS for mmc |
| 23:09.38 | GNUtoo|Laptop | torgrimt, http://www.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/DreamInstall |
| 23:09.45 | stinebd | phh: yeah but does .27 even have it? |
| 23:09.47 | phh | well NAND devices that are translated |
| 23:09.53 | phh | stinebd: that's backportable :p |
| 23:09.57 | stinebd | lol |
| 23:09.58 | stinebd | i guess so |
| 23:09.59 | phh | i backported it on my ac100 to 29 |
| 23:10.01 | phh | it works great |
| 23:10.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: no that is not ;))) |
| 23:10.10 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|Laptop: thanks. ill read on that. |
| 23:10.17 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: ? |
| 23:10.26 | GNUtoo|Laptop | torgrimt, feel free to ping me if you have any issue and if I'm there |
| 23:10.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | i mean, we should work on forward-porting devices.. not pulling stuff to our mess |
| 23:10.44 | GNUtoo|Laptop | torgrimt, (I participated in the htc dream port) |
| 23:10.48 | stinebd | Alex[sp3dev]: there is work being done on that already. but it doesn't happen overnight. |
| 23:10.51 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: ah yeah right |
| 23:11.06 | torgrimt | GNUtoo|Laptop: allright, ill give it a go. |
| 23:11.13 | stinebd | meanwhile stupid people like me can do simple stuff like backports |
| 23:11.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | i wonder.. what if i revert to msm_ts |
| 23:11.38 | phh | stinebd: **or** |
| 23:11.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | gotta compare cpu usage of msm_ts and tssc_manager |
| 23:11.51 | phh | stinebd: on nilfs2 page, there is already a backport :p |
| 23:11.57 | stinebd | phh: boring. |
| 23:12.02 | phh | i know |
| 23:12.06 | phh | that's why i backported it by myself |
| 23:12.09 | stinebd | hah |
| 23:12.10 | phh | (also because i wanted TRIM) |
| 23:12.24 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: uh ? you've got some problems with it ? |
| 23:12.39 | stinebd | phh: but we use loopback... |
| 23:12.57 | stinebd | everything goes through that damn vfat anyway |
| 23:13.04 | phh | stinebd: yes but no. |
| 23:13.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: open up top, hold your finger on the touchscreen for a couple of seconds and watch cpu usage jump to 90 percent |
| 23:13.13 | phh | stinebd: we don't change file size |
| 23:13.20 | phh | we don't reallocate bytes or anything |
| 23:13.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: you can drop vfat. stupid users can't |
| 23:13.30 | phh | and file is mostly contiguous |
| 23:13.34 | phh | so it shouldn't change much |
| 23:13.41 | phh | just some anoying buffer |
| 23:14.03 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: perhaps we can control frequency of interrupts in some TS register ? |
| 23:14.07 | phh | i don't really remember those |
| 23:15.51 | charansingh_ | so no one wants to help? |
| 23:16.12 | GNUtoo|Laptop | does someone has an idea for the correspondance between the gpio of MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(29) and the gpio number in /sys/class/gpio/ ? |
| 23:16.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | anyway. there are really two stoppers with 35... the microp keypad driver (which just freezes when you press a key) and smd (which needs to be debugged.. cause kernel locks up during boot sometimes. not always) |
| 23:16.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: grep it? |
| 23:16.47 | GNUtoo|Laptop | grep for what? |
| 23:16.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | for MSM_GPIO_TO_INT |
| 23:16.56 | stinebd | don't press keys then. |
| 23:17.13 | GNUtoo|Laptop | yes but what if I don't understand the grep response |
| 23:17.19 | GNUtoo|Laptop | because that is cryptic for me: |
| 23:17.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm grepping atm |
| 23:17.37 | GNUtoo|Laptop | #define MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(n) (FIRST_GPIO_IRQ + (n)) |
| 23:17.45 | GNUtoo|Laptop | FIRST_GPIO_*IRQ* |
| 23:17.51 | GNUtoo|Laptop | is it a gpio number? |
| 23:17.57 | GNUtoo|Laptop | I don't think so |
| 23:18.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's a macro. defined in the same file |
| 23:18.16 | GNUtoo|Laptop | according to that: |
| 23:18.17 | GNUtoo|Laptop | #define FIRST_GPIO_IRQ (NR_MSM_IRQS + NR_SIRC_IRQS) |
| 23:18.20 | GNUtoo|Laptop | it's an irq number |
| 23:18.22 | GNUtoo|Laptop | right? |
| 23:18.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 23:18.30 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: freeze like a kernel panic ? |
| 23:18.38 | GNUtoo|Laptop | so how do I get the gpio number from the irq number? |
| 23:18.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | basically, there's a linear mapping between built-in gpios and irqs for them. or maybe sparse. i am checking |
| 23:19.03 | GNUtoo|Laptop | ok thanks a lot |
| 23:19.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: it can just freeze during boot.. and seems like modem crashes while booting android sometimes (but maybe it's not modem.. anything can crash android until we port all the hardware) |
| 23:20.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | ./irqs-7x00.h:#define NR_MSM_IRQS 64 |
| 23:20.17 | stinebd | at which point while booting? after A N D R O I D banner but before animation? |
| 23:20.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | ./irqs-7x00.h:#define NR_SIRC_IRQS 0 |
| 23:20.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | so yes. MSM_GPIO_TO_INT(n) (64 + (n)) |
| 23:20.44 | Samsunguy | charansingh_: I'll test it |
| 23:21.00 | GNUtoo|Laptop | so I do 64 + 29? |
| 23:21.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: the arguement to MSM_GPIO_TO_INT is gpio. and it returns the irq number |
| 23:21.34 | GNUtoo|Laptop | ah ok sorry I just realized it |
| 23:21.40 | GNUtoo|Laptop | so 29 is 29 |
| 23:21.43 | GNUtoo|Laptop | thanks a lot |
| 23:22.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | stinebd: i think after animation. but it crashes spontaneously. sometimes just the JVM (sorry, dalvik) dies.. maybe i'll just try to reinstall android on ext2 and boot with 27 zimage first |
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| 23:24.53 | charansingh_ | Samsunguy: compiling one |
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| 23:25.46 | [Rapunzel] | hey alex |
| 23:25.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey |
| 23:26.09 | [Rapunzel] | exams done? :D |
| 23:27.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | nope. we're having probability theory in a week and some economical shit after.. life sucks, you know |
| 23:27.10 | [Rapunzel] | heh |
| 23:27.15 | [Rapunzel] | I passed all mine |
| 23:27.15 | GNUtoo|Laptop | thanks a lot for the gpio thing |
| 23:27.21 | Samsunguy | K |
| 23:27.34 | GNUtoo|Laptop | I'll go to sleep and try to debug it tomorrow, and indeed gpio 29 has some activity when wifi is on |
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| 23:41.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: so you own a tegra2. is there an opengl library for X? |
| 23:44.22 | [Rapunzel] | don't tell this two words when I am in channel pls :'( |
| 23:44.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | X or tegra? |
| 23:46.17 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: opengles |
| 23:47.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: yeah, that's what i mean.. and what about the platform support in linux in general? how much stuff is closed? |
| 23:48.53 | phh | atm, mostly everything |
| 23:49.26 | phh | but in next release we expect that only DSP and 3D/2D are still closed |
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| 23:49.41 | phh | (we can expect that because we have the kernel tree of this next release :p) |
| 23:50.08 | phh | well 2D is mostly in kernel now |
| 23:51.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | uh.. i see.. there are a lot of A9 tablets in the states but mostly none in europe and definitely none in russia.. and judging by benchmarks, tegra2 is not very slow (although the gpu doesn't seem very fast, right?).. i am begging that someone announces omap4 tablet |
| 23:51.59 | phh | A9 is fucking awesome :p |
| 23:52.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'd have bought ac100 if it had touchscreen |
| 23:52.24 | phh | you don't have folio100 ? |
| 23:52.40 | phh | and yeah the gpu isn't really great |
| 23:52.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | no. and afair it is expensive |
| 23:52.43 | phh | both dsp and 3d |
| 23:52.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | so i'd better wait for qcom or omap4 |
| 23:53.35 | phh | mm, iirc, values announced by qcom for 8272 for 3D was less than nvidia's |
| 23:55.01 | phh | well all current mobile gpus announced more or less 100Mtriangles/second |
| 23:55.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | i am sure omap4 will have some powervr. maybe 540 or (hopefully 545/555). they're still the best gpus |
| 23:55.12 | [Rapunzel] | X & opengl |
| 23:55.14 | [Rapunzel] | :P |
| 23:55.22 | phh | tegra2 is mostly like 540 |
| 23:55.35 | phh | and it's still better than intel's chipset on atom netbooks :D |
| 23:55.36 | torgrimt | nope, seems like my htc g1 wont boot the kernel. it shows alot of dots on the screen, and then reboots. |
| 23:55.40 | torgrimt | bah. |
| 23:55.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, powervr 535 is used in gma500 and gma600 |
| 23:57.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | [Rapunzel]: closed source coupled with the lack of stable api and abi makes wonders, right? |
| 23:58.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: wow. looks like tegra2 linux drivers are incredibly huge and compilcated |
| 23:59.03 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: huge ? |
| 23:59.06 | phh | complicated yes |
| 23:59.13 | phh | again, next release will be way better |
| 23:59.31 | smoku | phh, http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html says it's "ultra-low power (ULP) NVIDIA GeForce GPU" |
| 23:59.46 | phh | smoku: and .... ? |