IRC log for #htc-linux on 20110103

00:00.13Shadikui could always private message you in irc?
00:00.42RaiderX303if you prefer :)
00:07.47nylhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzxQYfpFloY
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00:25.03RaiderX303anyone else want recovery for HD2
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00:50.30gauner1986you can use pretty much every sd build as recovery image
00:50.32gauner1986:)
00:53.04RaiderX303lol
00:53.11RaiderX303this is an actual android recovery
00:53.18RaiderX303that lets you flash update.zips
00:53.43gauner1986i like to just use tars
00:53.45gauner1986:P
00:53.51RaiderX303heh
00:57.58RaiderX303update.zips make customizing alot easier
00:58.03RaiderX303and can create nandroid backups
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01:07.35Shadikuclarification, it can create nandroid backups but can't restore?
01:08.34RaiderX303it creates nandroid backups
01:08.40RaiderX303but cant backup or restore boot
01:08.44RaiderX303only system and data
01:08.50Shadikuah that's fine
01:09.04Shadikureally saved me with this, thanks! :P
01:09.11RaiderX303if you restore boot, it wont boot P
01:09.12RaiderX303:P
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01:28.13RaiderX303damn recovery wont compile :(
01:31.22RaiderX303i really need to learn C properly
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01:44.20F22WisTilt2: Hi, want the new kernel pack posted?
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01:47.00WisTilt2F22: if you could.  that should fix the flicker issue on all the devices.
01:47.10F22excellent
01:47.12F22will do
01:47.41F22i'll test it out too once i have it up.
01:48.22F22my battery test on the previous one didn't work out so well, but i later realized i had gps on. and i guess that stops the phone from going to sleep.
01:49.35WisTilt2lol, gps on even when an app isnt using it will keep phone in wake all the time.
01:50.21F22i don't recall having that issue in winmo. i guess it's one more thing that will have to be addressed at some point.
01:50.52WisTilt2XirXes: nice WisTilt2, what caused it? <- timers and low/high brightness registers had too much spread.
01:51.57WisTilt2yeah, in winmo it actually freezes pretty much everything and really does go into sleep.  fine tuning down the road will take care of that after everything is working.
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02:07.30RaiderX303nandroid working for backing up partitions on HD2 :)
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02:15.05F22WisTilt2: ok, so i should tell the peeps that this kernel should fix flicker, anything else?
02:20.08WisTilt2flicker and locking brightness is all i changed from the previous one. working on panel init stuff but not on this kernel pack.
02:21.12F22ahh, some rhod100's have reported that your kernels are working for them, but not all of them have the auo panel, some of them are eid's like ours.  so i guess that's all that is then.
02:21.53F22arrrghhh was wondering if you had thrown in a fix or something for the 100's.
02:22.07WisTilt2yeah, i dont have the auo running at all in this kernel until i get the detect code written so it will be hit and miss on the 100's
02:23.08F22i've been trying to get one of the rhod100 owners with an auo panel to post his disptools.dll. would that be useful? or should i not bother?
02:23.08WisTilt2unless the 100's work with eid and auo is something else.  the auo sequence is not even in this kernel and eid is all that is being used.
02:23.58WisTilt2yes that would be good info.  we have one id from a 100 but must be an eid type so one from an auo would be a help.
02:26.17F22ok, i will continue trying then. the 100 owner i've been working with is pretty savvy, but he's been having difficulty copying the file over even with total commander. i'm not sure why. i didn't have that problem a year ago when i pulled mine.
02:27.15WisTilt2boy we have so much flooding around here.  we've had almost 10" of rain since right before xmas.  our normal annual is 11".  tons of crops under water, mainly oranges.
02:27.58F22i can see orange prices going up this year. hopefully you guys don't have more mudslide issues.
02:29.14WisTilt2lots of mudslides nearby but not as bad as those down in los angeles area.  we have several highways closed around here due to mudslides or all out flooding right now, crazy.
02:30.14F22http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10277121#post10277121
02:30.16WisTilt2our snowpack as of this morning was 19' and we just got another 1.5in rain today so another couple feet of snow.  about 300% of normal this time of year.
02:30.26F22your kernel pack is posted
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02:31.47WisTilt2did you try this last kernel yet?  what you think about the kbd brightness being all the way up?
02:32.17F22lol, already have a fuze owner asking if the kernel in the first post will work with the fuze.  my large warning notices no doubt scared him off. :P
02:32.34F22so he's asking about the one in arrrghhh's first post instead. lol.
02:33.04F22i have it installed, haven't done anything with it yet.
02:33.20F22will test now.
02:33.50F22no flicker :)
02:36.09WisTilt2no flicker=good. brightness is at 98%, basically full on.  not going to waste time trying to get it to dim with ambient light, too much coding and not that important over other things.
02:36.28F22i agree with you there.
02:37.03F22what's the diff between 98% and 100% brightness? i'm just curious why you went with 98.
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02:46.23WisTilt298% worked out to be an even multiple on my table.  no visual difference at 100%
02:49.34F22makes sense. lol.
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02:53.41RaiderXNandroid now works on hd2 recovery
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02:56.26arrrghhhwhat's up WisTilt2
02:57.25F22new kernel - fixes flicker. posted to your thread.
02:57.35WisTilt2fixed flicker.  now trying to trace what is causing this damn system server issue.
02:59.33arrrghhhyea i'm catching up in the logs now :P
02:59.39arrrghhhso i guess i should update mah first post then eh?
02:59.59F22i'd say yes. ;)
03:00.53arrrghhhhehe
03:01.00arrrghhhseems i just missed it too
03:01.01arrrghhhah well
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03:03.44WisTilt2do you guys know if this system server problem is happening on both cdma and gsm users?
03:03.49arrrghhhyes
03:03.51arrrghhhi'm cdma
03:03.53arrrghhhyou're gsm
03:03.53arrrghhh:D
03:04.48fakkergrumbles
03:04.51fakkerthis is a hd2 chan!
03:05.01fakker(i joke)
03:05.50arrrghhhwell battery drain was better WisTilt2
03:06.07arrrghhhi was seeing how long it would go, last i looked it was at 19% and i was going on 20hrs w/o a charger.
03:06.27arrrghhhunfortunately i started playing tiger woods with mah friends, and then looked at my phone when i got home... and it's dead.
03:06.41WisTilt2how much did you use the phone during that time?
03:06.44arrrghhhbut not bad with a couple of phone calls, buncha texts and a few market mess
03:07.03arrrghhhit wasn't a ton.  didn't listen to any music or watch any videos, or play any games...
03:07.10arrrghhhso most of that 20hrs was sleep.
03:07.32arrrghhhso i went to bed with 82%, woke up with about 65%.  not bad.
03:07.38arrrghhhthat was pure sleep...
03:07.48arrrghhhi slept for probably 7 hours
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03:08.57WisTilt2should be at least getting 1% per hour. when i have decent signal im seeing as low as .5% per hour, just over 1% with occasional use.
03:09.40WisTilt2was phone nice and cold when you woke it up this morning?
03:10.30bzoit seems like gsm is getting battery life than cdma
03:10.45bzothis was also observed on the diam and raph
03:10.57WisTilt2bzo: what are you seeing on average, better?
03:11.59bzoOn my compiled kernel, I was seeing 2.5% to 3% an hour
03:12.18arrrghhhyea it was pretty cold when i woke it up.
03:12.23bzoI tried yours from last night, but it actually seems worse
03:12.54bzocan't see why since my kernel doesn't have panel power stuff
03:12.59arrrghhhand hey that's very acceptable to me.  that's almost a full 24hrs w/o a charge, more than enough.
03:13.14arrrghhhi just wanted 12-14hrs without needing juice w/light to moderate usage.
03:13.28WisTilt2strange.  mine turns of vregs along with the whole panel power supply.  is it actually going into full sleep?
03:13.47WisTilt2of=off
03:14.02bzoseems like it, the light turns green
03:14.04bzobrb
03:14.27F22didn't the indicator lights get reversed?
03:14.45WisTilt2i changed them back to what everyone is used to
03:14.50WisTilt2too much confusion
03:14.56F22i liked yours more. piffle.
03:15.04arrrghhhlol
03:24.09arrrghhhhrm.  getting really mixed reviews of the kernel, but that's par the course really.
03:25.13F22i'm not sure the fuze owner who couldn't read counts. :P
03:25.52F22not that i don't sympathize with his desire for improved power management.
03:26.33WisTilt2anyone seeing noticeable battery improvements or less for that matter?
03:28.59F22i had gps running earlier, and have had usb plugged in since updating to your latest. so i can't comment unfortunately.
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03:42.22bzodamn, 40% drain after 8 hrs
03:42.38bzoguess I will go back to my kernel tonight to do a true a/b comparison
03:42.48WisTilt2what phone you have again?
03:42.54bzo400
03:43.28bzopanel off must be working, because I have to touch the screen on wake
03:44.42WisTilt2very strange.  40% in 8hrs is like its awake the whole time.
03:46.30WisTilt2can you check dmesg and see if when it goes to sleep you see the powersink value and make sure its 7000ua
03:46.41WisTilt2sounds like its staying at 38000
03:46.52bzothat's why I'm trying my kernel again - rule out something weird like the battery going bad or some app going crazy in the bg
03:48.16bzoI see a mix of both 7000/38000
03:48.48WisTilt2at the final suspend it should always only be 7000 until it wakes again
03:49.37bzolooks like it, 7000 on sleep, 38000 on resume
03:51.24WisTilt2unless its waking frequently doing whatever then back to sleep.  i see mine wake now and then briefly but not that often unless signal is real weak.
03:52.08WisTilt2could put some printk's in suspend/resume and see how often its happening over an hour or so.
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04:10.23NeoMatrixJRWisTilt2, arrrghhh, I gotta jump off but I just found this: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453#c24
04:10.33NeoMatrixJRsomeone claims to have patched the system_server problem
04:10.39NeoMatrixJRat least for cyanogenmod
04:10.59NeoMatrixJRnot sure if this can be re-worked for everyone or not.  it's sleep time before I get yelled at.
04:11.19WisTilt2thanks neo, that will save us troubleshooting
04:11.29WisTilt2we'll take a look
04:11.31NeoMatrixJRsomeone hit me up on XDA (same name) if this gets patched up.  I haven't been using android 'cause it
04:11.41NeoMatrixJRit's either inoperable or crashes alot
04:12.04arrrghhhlol
04:12.08NeoMatrixJR'night everyone!
04:12.15arrrghhhwe're all working to get this fixed for ya neo.  'night :P
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05:05.26F22WisTilt2: 1.5 hours after putting my handset to sleep, it's still at 100%. very nice.
05:05.54F22er maybe i spoke to soon, now it's saying 97%. hmmm...
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05:10.12WisTilt2let it go overnight if you can to get a more accurate reading.  seems like the first few % from full drop quicker then slow down.
05:10.57F22ok, will do.
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05:25.28F22hmm...just hung on me during neocore. nothing works. adb doesn't see the device if i plug in the usb cord, keyboard backlight doesn't turn on if i open up the kbd.
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06:02.03bzoWisTilt2: with my kernel, back to a 2-3% drain this last hour
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06:09.31WisTilt2bzo: any chance you could run my last kernel for an hour or so and get me the full dmesg output starting from the first sleep point?
06:11.34bzosure WisTilt2
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06:17.50Kweezy157So quiet...
06:25.12WisTilt2bzo: actually 15mins should be enough.
06:25.54bzook, phone just finished booting a few min ago
06:50.29WisTilt2exit
06:51.26WisTilt2bzo: need to get out of here.  can you email me the dump and ill be on here from the office tomorrow.  Thanks!
06:51.56bzoyep, talk to you tomorrow
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09:30.25sleeplessnerdHi, folks :) thanks for all your efforts! - I love my Leo@android
09:31.05sleeplessnerddoes someone know a way to have a "proper" unix/gnu userland ontop of android ? - preferably with some kind of packagemanager
09:37.01sleeplessnerdi saw the hack by saurik with the loopback mount of a debian install running in a chroot, but that does not feel very smooth to me
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10:59.04SquidwardTennisb:D
11:03.11SquidwardTennisbanyone up workin on kernel? haha jk
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13:41.22RaiderXAnyone here?
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13:52.54Miro8need advice..
13:53.12RaiderXWhat advice?
13:53.23Miro8i wanna get a new HTC phone but they stopped sellin wm 6.5 and start those stupid windows 7 phones
13:53.54Miro8so i was wonderin how bad is wm 7?
13:53.54imilkabuy hd2
13:54.03Miro8i need a contract phone
13:54.10imilkaah okay
13:55.09Miro8whats gonna happen in the future when theres no more wm6.5 phones?
13:57.04RaiderXGet hd2 from Vodafone, they still have em
13:58.34Miro8im from UK
13:58.44ShadikuMiro8: i got mine from cex
13:58.44Miro8i dont think they do here?
13:59.07Miro8yh but i want a contract phone
13:59.24Shadikui recall going into a phone shop a few months ago and seeing the hd2 on contract
14:00.47Miro8o yh i think they still do it but only online
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14:01.17Miro8oh no SOLD OUT :s
14:01.25RaiderX:-(
14:02.40Miro8how bad is wm7?
14:03.06RaiderXIt's good tbh
14:03.15RaiderXSmooth, simple
14:03.59Miro8i dont like "simple" lol
14:04.16Miro8i need a pc with aphone in it rather than a phone with a pc in it
14:04.52RaiderXLol
14:05.16RaiderXThink of it as a Microsoft iPhone wanabe
14:05.35Miro8yh i RELE hate iPhones
14:14.50Miro8i heard that htc might be make an OS fot HTC phones
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14:17.16Miro8is there a linux that would happily work on HTC phone?
14:19.07Shadikuubuntu hd2
14:19.37Miro8what about windows 7 phones?
14:19.52Shadikudon't think so
14:20.14Miro8is the linux faster than wm6.5?
14:20.21RaiderXNope
14:20.26Shadikunot sure, only used it for 5 minutes
14:20.29RaiderXWell android is
14:20.39RaiderXUbuntu ain't really usable
14:20.41CerealhHm, it seems Lua can be compiled on Android so no reason conky can't, will update later today on can it be done :/
14:20.45RaiderXNo working sound
14:21.06CerealhWrong window :)
14:21.18RaiderXLol
14:22.32Miro8is it true that with wm7 u can only use the applications from the market?
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14:23.11fakkermy friends got one - i havent really used it.. but it's pretty slick little device
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14:25.18sleeplessnerddoes someone know a way to have a "proper" unix/gnu userland ontop of android ? - preferably with some kind of packagemanager
14:25.42sleeplessnerdi saw the hack by saurik with the loopback mount of a debian install running in a chroot, but that does not feel very smooth to me
14:26.53Shadikusleeplessnerd: i did that on my hd2, worked really well. had apt-get and everything.
14:28.34sleeplessnerdShadiku: hmm, I'll give it a try, but I wonder if anyone has merged android with debian yet :D
14:29.16Shadikusleeplessnerd: i got as far as installing gnome via synaptic before i realised the image was running out of space :p
14:29.23sleeplessnerdxD
14:29.27Shadikuthe file i used is here: http://shadiku.com/tmp/ubuntu.zip
14:30.05sleeplessnerdthanks :) that will speed up the process
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14:30.30sleeplessnerdthe last debbootstrab I did was for my seagate dockstar
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14:51.30Arash18kguys is there any way to send kernel command line in magldr?
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15:29.39dcordes-otgbah
15:29.54RaiderX303Hi
15:30.02dcordes-otgthis year's fosdem date sucks
15:30.15dcordes-otghi
15:30.31dcordes-otg~seen cr2_
15:30.37aptcr2_ <~cr2@ip-80-226-0-1.vodafone-net.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 8d 19h 54s ago, saying: 'i mean in hardware'.
15:31.11RaiderX303Fosdem?
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15:37.38esetyawanhello anyone can inform me how to mount loop a yaffs image ?
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15:38.03MN_hey
15:38.08RaiderX303Mount -o loop -t yaffs2
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15:38.21RaiderX303Hi MN_
15:38.34GNUtoo|laptopRaiderX303, won't work
15:38.36RaiderX303I've got an updated recovery now with working nandroid
15:38.46GNUtoo|laptopesetyawan, use unyaffs2
15:38.51dcordes-otg_hi gnu
15:39.02esetyawanhi GNUtoo|laptop
15:39.13GNUtoo|laptopmounting it is complicated and need a fake mtd device that uses ram as backend
15:39.17MN_how's it going
15:39.24GNUtoo|laptophi dcordes-otg_ esetyawan
15:39.35RaiderX303Recovery now fully working on hd2
15:39.37esetyawanwhen i use unyaffs2 it show an error segmentation fault
15:39.51MN_nice
15:39.56GNUtoo|laptopesetyawan, you use it on target or on host?
15:39.57dcordes-otg_gnu you pinged me wrt msm camera
15:40.12esetyawanGNUtoo|laptop, a host
15:40.13RaiderX303I'm gonna release hd2 recovery tonite
15:40.22GNUtoo|laptopdcordes-otg_, yes but phh told me that it didn't change, no free software camera activator exist yet
15:40.31esetyawanRaiderX303, thats great :)
15:40.38GNUtoo|laptopesetyawan, try on target, cross compile the .c
15:40.44GNUtoo|laptoppush it and extract there
15:41.01RaiderX303Already got some Devs makin flashable roms
15:41.02GNUtoo|laptopor fix the segfault
15:41.31dcordes-otg_gnu so problem is activation only ?
15:41.35esetyawanGNUtoo|laptop, thanks will try it
15:41.53GNUtoo|laptopdcordes-otg_, let me look
15:42.11GNUtoo|laptopesetyawan, if you don't have a cross toolchain use codesourcey's one
15:42.31esetyawanGNUtoo|laptop, ok thanks for the info
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15:43.25RaiderX303Dcordes-otg_ u want a copy of this recovery to test?
15:44.41dcordes-otg_no thanks
15:45.04dcordes-otg_batt low. bbl
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15:52.22esetyawanGNUtoo|laptop, ok its done now I can extract yaffs image but how to making it ?
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15:54.45GNUtoo|laptopesetyawan, mkyaffs2 I think, but you need to check
15:54.57imilkamkyaffs2image
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15:58.43esetyawanimilka, where i can get it ?
15:58.52imilkagoogle yaffs-utils
15:59.04imilkaif I clearly remember
15:59.55imilkaor just google mkyaffs2image
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16:08.29cedesmithanyone here i could talk a bit about nand driver ?
16:09.07esetyawanimilka, found it thanks
16:09.29imilkanp
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16:53.31MN_hello
16:54.16Cotullau have time to stop yet. DON'T DO IT!
16:54.57mreimerAny haret devs here?
16:55.22MN_lol what cotulla ?
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16:58.18MN_well it seems there is a fully working recovery now :)
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17:09.43gauner1986cotulla: hey :)
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17:14.45DuperManyo Rajko. congrats on getting your build out
17:14.58DuperManwhat's the bruhaha about the compass?
17:15.04DuperManshit wrong channel:|
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17:29.58gauner1986rajko: did you compile gingerbread for leo yet?
17:30.04Rajkono
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18:26.21gauner1986hey dan
18:27.01dan1j3lhi
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18:40.11EdVaIlне делать что:
18:40.12EdVaIl?
18:40.59Cotullawh0t?
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18:42.18mdeejay:D
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18:42.27Cotulla÷òî îí õî÷åò òî?
18:42.43EdVaIlкто? я?
18:42.45imilkaâîî, åäèíñòâåííûé ÷åëîâåê ñ íîðìàëüíîé êîäèðîâêîé
18:42.45imilka))
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18:42.58Cotullaêòî ñ íîðìàëüíîé?
18:43.09imilkaòû :)
18:43.12Cotulla:D
18:43.19imilkaíå âèæó ÷òî îí ïèøåò
18:43.30mdeejayа мой?
18:43.32CotullaEdVaIlíå äåëàòü ÷òî:
18:43.32CotullaEdVaIl?
18:43.35EdVaIlu menja utf8 вот
18:43.51Cotullaÿ âñåõ íîðìàëüíî âèæó â Opera IRC :)
18:44.07EdVaIlнадо и мне оперу поставить
18:44.12mdeejayя в x-chat тоже
18:44.21EdVaIlу меня KVIrc
18:44.24manusfreedom:(
18:44.27fakkerstfu !
18:44.32CotullaÒàì IRC ãëþ÷íàÿ... áåçóìíî..
18:44.45EdVaIlгде там?
18:44.51Cotulla Opera.
18:44.53EdVaIlаа
18:45.07Cotullamanusfreedom?
18:45.29manusfreedomI do'nt understand what you write :)
18:46.05Cotulla:)
18:46.18Cotullajust discussing codepages of different IRC
18:47.00manusfreedomok
18:48.47Milleniumgreat that I can still read in russian :]
18:49.36Cotullau? why?
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18:51.01CotullaI am eating http://www.pentaxnews.ru/img/photos/24909-medium.jpg now. Do u it such things in ur country, ppl?
18:51.13Cotulla*eat
18:51.43mdeejayi like it
18:51.47fakkerdonuts?
18:51.48mdeejaywith tea
18:52.02imilkano, it's not donuts
18:52.04fakkeror this is more bread, like pretzel?
18:52.06mdeejaybaranka or bublik fakker
18:52.18Cotullano it's not donuts
18:52.18fakkeri had it
18:52.23mdeejayfakker you bublik :D
18:52.23Cotullait's sushki
18:52.56mdeejaydifferent names
18:53.00fakkeryeah
18:53.18fakkeri hate converting videos
18:53.21fakkerit's such a bullshit task
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19:00.57ElBartoMEhey, is somebody working on an extended battery nand kernel?
19:01.17ElBartoMEi tried to revert back to the old battery driver. but it keeps crashing if i insert the ext. battery...
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19:05.07ElBartoMEwell it's not crashing. It's more like android shutting itself down Oo
19:08.03|Atom|Cotulla:  it's a toe from one million for MAGLDR :)
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19:10.39CotullaI got 40k in tetris :P
19:11.03imilkayou still need 60+k to reveal hidden features :D
19:11.04|Atom|lol
19:12.47|Atom|Cotulla: when to expect wp7  ?
19:12.58Cotulladon't ask me such things
19:13.02Cotulla:D
19:13.39fakkerwhen do you expect to put windows mobile on desire?
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19:20.08EdVaIlа у кого лучше спрашивать про wp7? :D
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19:21.37|Atom|EdVaIl: what?
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19:22.23EdVaIl|Atom|: just askin who can we ask about wp7 :)
19:22.55apocsvehello there
19:23.11|Atom|nobody )
19:23.55MN_ask microsoft :P
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19:27.11|Atom|You can even tell fortunes by coffee grounds  )
19:27.20MN_lol
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19:39.05dcordesis on ubuntu on leo
19:39.23dcordesnyl, pong
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19:40.45Cotullahey
19:41.06Cotullahow is ur fingers?
19:41.16dcordesthey fine
19:42.15dcordesis this a rethoric/sarcastic question wrt pnboard osk?
19:42.33gauner1986haha
19:42.43MN_~seen raiderx303
19:42.50aptraiderx303 <~RaiderX@109.181.199.194> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 3h 59m 25s ago, saying: 'Dcordes-otg_ u want a copy of this recovery to test?'.
19:42.50gauner1986hi dcordes
19:43.01Cotullasarcastic question about small ubuntu icons
19:43.11Cotullaand capacitive touch screen
19:43.13Cotulla:P
19:43.37WilldCotulla: Haha, stop teasing!
19:43.55dcordesI am very content with the usability
19:44.39dcordesregarding the fact that this is a desktop env
19:44.56gauner1986you use ubuntu on it everyday?
19:44.58gauner1986:D
19:45.02Cotulla:D :D
19:45.57dcordes(gnome, ubuntu-netbook, etc.)
19:47.11dcordesgauner1986: it would be considerable aim w/alsa working
19:47.52Cotullameego better :P
19:48.11CotullaI compiled make tar on it directly
19:48.12Cotulla:P\
19:48.14Cotulla:P
19:48.39dcordesdifferent
19:48.45Cotullaperversion
19:48.48gauner1986but there are no nice apps for it
19:48.51Cotulladefinitely :D
19:49.09Cotullagauner1986, there almost all will work
19:49.16dcordesgauner1986: mhm look at OE
19:49.18Cotullathere also X11 server
19:50.28Cotullabut it's VERY SLOW
19:50.42dcordesgauner1986: meego is reinvention of wheel partly
19:51.01gauner1986hm
19:51.16dcordesalso don't like rpm much personally
19:51.34Cotullawhy
19:52.20dcordesthey could have invested in the openembedded.org project
19:52.32dcordesnokia
19:53.11dcordesCotulla: personal preference
19:53.26Cotullahaha
19:54.48dcordesyou started some meego Xorg on leo, Cotulla ?
19:55.07Cotullano, we using now evo android kernel
19:55.12Cotullaonly TS was fixed
19:55.20Cotullaso there msm_fb
19:56.10Cotullau using in ubuntu also msm_fb?
19:56.13Cotulla*r
19:56.31dcordesxf86-video-msm >?
19:57.23Cotullano...
19:57.35Cotullahonestly I dunno.. I think X11 just using raw frame buffer as msm_fb
19:58.24dcordesok where can the patches be found ?
19:58.43Cotullafor TS?
19:59.00dcordesall if other
19:59.26Cotullaactually meego rootfs was done by stroughtonsmith
19:59.37Cotullahe gived it to me, I fixed TS and looking for something else
19:59.59Cotulla;)
20:00.34dcordeshehe
20:00.49stroughtonsmithdcordes: I started with this config  - http://wiki.meego.com/images/Meego-handset-armv7l-nexusone-trunk.ks
20:00.56stroughtonsmithso the x11 drivers are as listed
20:01.08stroughtonsmithI haven't changed any of the core packages in my custom kickstart
20:01.22stroughtonsmithjust lots of other non-binary stuff
20:01.44dcordesI am wondering about the kernel patchez
20:01.50Cotullamy git
20:02.00dcordess/z/s/
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20:02.11cedesmithdoes magldr use standar yaffs .img ?
20:02.35Cotulla?
20:02.43CotullaI am using like HTC ones
20:02.46Cotulla2048+64
20:02.51dcordesgitURI
20:02.57Cotulla48 not used
20:02.58dcordes?
20:03.13Cotullahttp://gitorious.org/~cotulla/linux-on-wince-htc/linux_leo_cotulla
20:03.23cedesmithi mean makeyaffs is modified ?
20:03.33Cotullano
20:03.38dcordesCotulla: ok thanks
20:03.38Cotullamkyaffs2image however
20:04.23cedesmithk, i will try to flash system.img using LK
20:04.27cedesmithkernel booting from nand
20:04.48cedesmithfucking baseaddr in boot.img was wrong
20:04.51dcordesstroughtonsmith: we must patch battery
20:05.22dcordesstroughtonsmith: for non-android user space
20:05.28stroughtonsmithbattery would be an interesting one, I have no idea how meego's ui interfaces with it
20:05.35Cotulladcordes... run it firstly.... for laugh :D
20:05.38stroughtonsmithubuntu doesn't have battery support either?
20:05.59dcordesCotulla: I have seen the video
20:06.29dcordesstroughtonsmith: no wrong sysfs nodes
20:07.03stroughtonsmithI was looking at Ubuntu trying to see how the keypad was mapped but couldn't figure it out - are the keys emulated in the kernel, or are they actually mapped somewhere?
20:07.18dcordeskernel
20:07.24stroughtonsmithnot that MeeGo actually has a use for any keys at all right now
20:07.29stroughtonsmithah, gotcha
20:07.53dcordesbut you can remap in Xorg
20:08.07dcordeslike normal kbd
20:08.28stroughtonsmithI didn't have any way to find out what the current mappings are, keycodes etc, so I didn't go far
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20:08.36dcordesin 10.10 ubuntu 's Xorg it is broken.
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20:08.49dcordesshowkeys
20:09.03stroughtonsmithyeah not included in the rootfs
20:09.08stroughtonsmithI'll have to add it manually
20:09.11Cotulla:D
20:09.13Cotulla^^
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20:09.29CotullaI added C++ buy hands from RPM
20:09.30Cotulla:D
20:09.39NeoMatrixJR~seen GlemSom
20:09.46aptglemsom <~glemsom@0x5da34bca.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 51d 2h 44m 21s ago, saying: 'Sweet! :P''.
20:09.46stroughtonsmithhaha
20:13.18RajkoBUY HANDS BUY HANDS BUY HANDS
20:13.31CotullaBUY?
20:13.37Cotullawtf
20:13.39Rajkoyes you said buy
20:13.39Cotullathere must be BY
20:13.43Cotulla???
20:13.48Cotullahaha :D
20:13.50Rajkoyou bought hands for c++
20:13.52Cotullaow, ok
20:13.56Cotulla*by
20:14.06Rajkono there was this game i played and people spammed BUY HANDS BUY HANDS
20:14.10Rajkofor gloves
20:14.13Cotullaanyway I am compiling inside my LEO
20:14.20Cotulla:P
20:14.21Rajkothat must be fast
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20:14.31Cotullajust ADB copy folder to it
20:14.35Cotullaand copy back results
20:14.37Cotulla:P
20:14.37gauner1986:P
20:15.11Cotullawill kernel works better if I compile it inside leo instead of PC?
20:15.18Rajkono
20:15.22Cotullawy?
20:15.36Rajkopc has more cpu and ram
20:15.51Rajkothe output should be the same but leo compile would take ages
20:15.55plupkeresult is the same  just pc is faster
20:16.09stroughtonsmith8 cores are better than 1 for compiling! :P
20:16.23Cotullahm...
20:16.24Rajkoi think leo would just hang and give you out of memory error when LD happens for kernel
20:16.24plupkebtw something changed on the most recent kernels  2.6.33 i had to use the xorg driver for my wacom
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20:16.38plupkeon the 2.6.35 it now tells me to use xf86
20:16.48gauner1986rajko: 500 mb of ram should be enough to compile stuff, no?
20:16.54Rajkonope
20:17.03Cotullalol linux
20:17.12Rajkoive had compiles fail on the LD step on 512MB machines
20:17.17Rajkoand 768MB machines too
20:17.20Cotullalol
20:17.21Cotullan00by
20:17.22Cotulla:D
20:17.27CotullaI am still compiling on 512
20:17.31cedesmithcotulla what is the start adress of the ram ? 0x10000000 ?
20:17.36Cotullano
20:17.39Cotulla118
20:17.57plupkei compiled fine on 128 mb   but that was bsd
20:17.58Rajkowell its taking forever to compile aosp on 2GB vm
20:18.03cedesmithand i can use 400mb+ from there ?
20:18.21cedesmithsystem.img too big :) lol
20:18.25Cotullafooo
20:18.26Cotulla:D
20:18.31Cotullain theory u can...
20:21.26plupkein theory you can replace the mainboard of a linux system without rebooting  lol
20:21.52mdeejay:D
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20:22.06Cotullaperversion...
20:23.02gauner1986plupke: how would you do that?
20:23.11gauner1986:P
20:23.32plupkesome idiot made a perfect manual to do that
20:23.38gauner1986:D
20:23.41gauner1986thats nice
20:23.43Rajkohow
20:23.44Rajkothe hell
20:23.45gauner1986i hate rebooting
20:23.52plupkein practice you need the kernel to run on vsphere   lol
20:24.00gauner1986haha...
20:24.37plupkeall tho dragonflybsd in a way should be able to do it when it's finished
20:25.15plupkeadd a second computer  move the kernel there and replace the mb on comp 1 and when done move it back
20:25.30Cotullawait
20:25.34Willdplupke: Not really fun though
20:25.34Cotullahow u can replace MB
20:25.36gauner1986ok, now to the why
20:25.37Cotullaif there RAM
20:25.38gauner1986:P
20:25.45Cotullaand linux inside MB
20:25.46Cotulla:D
20:25.47plupkemove the kernel is wrong tho as it runs only 1 kernel on both comps
20:26.24plupkeCotulla: normal clusters use a kernel per system/mb
20:26.35plupkedragonfly uses 1 kernel which runs on all systems
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20:28.54plupkepretty cutting edge stuff    most ppl told the guy behind it it was virtualy imposible   but so far he's doing great
20:30.38stroughtonsmithplupke: sounds very Solaris-y ?
20:31.19plupkepossible   didn't solaris came up with the zeta filesystem?
20:31.51stroughtonsmithzfs, sure. I know you can swap CPUs out of a running solaris box and other stuff, never seen anyone do a mainboard
20:32.21plupkecompare hammerfs with zeta and you'll see they have a lot incommen
20:32.35plupkeyou need itanium cpu's to do that
20:32.44CotullaeglCreatePixmapSurface and eglCopyBuffers not working in Android?
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20:47.19FutureShockhello
20:47.57FutureShockcan someone help me with data connection on HD2 Nand build?
20:50.08arrrghhhFutureShock: this room isn't for help.  perhaps someone in htc-linux-chat will take pity on you and help ya ;)
20:51.07nh_speaking of HD2, mine hopefully shows up today. :D
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21:16.03RaiderXHi
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21:18.29[ricky89]sup ppl
21:19.23[ricky89]anyone got a fix for the low call volume?
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21:24.52MN_Hey
21:25.26RaiderXHey
21:25.43MN_recovery finished?
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21:26.50DuperManMN_: ask crawling
21:28.32RaiderXwhy should he ask crawling when I'm the one making the recovery lol
21:28.43Cotulla:D
21:29.02RaiderXYes recovery is done, everything works now including nandroid
21:29.35RaiderXJust need recovery support in magldr now :-)
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21:30.53vegamanthat will be quite useful if I get back to my kernel hacking :D
21:31.25DuperManRaiderX: I dunno, heard crawling say something along the lines of it working for him
21:31.27DuperMan:P
21:31.37DuperManthanks go to you then:)
21:31.40RaiderXCoz I sent him test version
21:32.43DuperMancool. /lurk
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21:33.48[ricky89]will replacing the files default.acdb and htcleo.acdb from a SD build that has good volume fix this?
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21:34.55whitekidneyWill we ever see WP7 on a current android phone ?
21:36.24arrrghhhwhitekidney: #htc-linux...?
21:36.29vegaman/ignore whitekidney
21:36.33whitekidneyJust wondering. =p
21:36.36vegaman:-P
21:36.57phhwill we ever see openbsd on an android phone ? :p
21:37.25arrrghhhi want iOS on my winmo phone.
21:37.25vegamanmore interesting topic... start porting the kernel
21:37.34whitekidneyiOS ha
21:37.37whitekidneyisn't the entire OS encrypted?
21:37.46arrrghhhdunno, don't care.
21:37.50phhvegaman: yeah...... no.
21:37.52DuperManarrrghhh you piece of troll lure
21:38.00arrrghhhi know, what's wrong with me DuperMan
21:38.01vegamanphh: hehe
21:38.17DuperManyou aren't unlike me enough:P
21:38.46DuperMannow let's get working on that 3d display capable firmware for oled screens
21:39.45vegamanbetter get 3d gestures (or whatever the right term for it would be) working at the same time then
21:40.11whitekidneyAnyways, will we ever see a wp7 port to a android phone?
21:40.34DuperManwhitekidney: #htc-linux-chat
21:40.34[ricky89]ofcourse, when the time is right
21:40.55sleeplessnerdwp7 is dull, no root shell :P
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21:44.03ricky8989lol wtf im in this channel 2 times :S?
21:44.19ricky8989pls ./kick [ricky89]
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21:46.24arrrghhhricky8989: ghost?
21:47.13ricky8989dunno i got disconnected then i rejoined and it said my nick was already in use
21:47.37phhricky8989: I think arrrghhh means, RTFM nickserv/ghost command.
21:48.18arrrghhhricky8989: yea, there's a lot of info about how IRC works.  that's expected if you get disconnected and your client auto reconnected/rejoins.
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21:49.15ricky8989ok
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21:50.00vegaman/msg nickserv help
21:50.15vegamanif you haven't registered your nick anyway
21:50.18DuperMan/nick [ricky8989]
21:59.26[RB]so does anyone got a fix for the low volume call?
21:59.38[RB]i tried replacing htcleo.acdb but it didnt help
22:09.09[acl][RB]: i know someone fixed
22:09.38[acl][RB]: they took their phone.. grabbed a garbage can.. and threw the phone in there.. and baught a new phone. fixed !!
22:09.41[acl]:-p
22:10.12MassStashlol
22:10.27MassStashthat always seems to be the fix for my phones
22:10.39MassStashfirst the V, then the mogul
22:10.41[acl]Cotulla: like my fix ?
22:11.02Cotullaur fix???
22:11.16[acl]Cotulla: read a few lines above
22:11.26Cotullajust set of words O_o
22:11.47Cotullaoh first 4 words are clear
22:11.52Cotullanext 4 are not %)
22:11.57Cotullawhy there can
22:11.59Cotulla...
22:12.01[acl]:-p
22:12.01phh(they seem clear to me)
22:12.15[acl]lol
22:12.18Cotullaand how garbage related for grabbing
22:12.23Cotullawtf
22:12.26[acl]bustin chops boys .. just busting chops
22:12.33Cotullathrew.... seems I read this word first tiem
22:12.37CotullaI know throw...
22:12.39gauner1986hm.. i'm getting user tag detected on new module - user tags are only supported on legacy modules. when i try to compile custom libs for gingerbread
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22:12.42Cotullathrow MyException;
22:12.50Cotullaexample... but threw...
22:12.58Cotullawii?
22:12.59gauner1986the suggestion from the error msg doesnt work
22:13.03[acl]Cotulla: i would explain it in assembly.. but my assembly isnt good
22:13.14gauner1986i added tags = optinal in the nadroid.mk
22:13.14Cotullabaught
22:13.19Cotullaalso new word
22:13.19gauner1986but it seems to ignore it
22:13.55Cotullahm why article "a" before "new"? I thought new defines phone as new, so we know which phone he wanna got
22:14.01Cotullawe know that it will be definitely new
22:14.08Cotullawe don't know size of screen
22:14.12Cotullabut know that it's new!
22:14.13Cotulla"D
22:14.14Cotulla:D
22:14.16CotullaI am right?
22:14.32[RB]hehe lol
22:15.07[RB]is off, thnx for the work devs
22:18.20[acl]emwe: dood
22:18.40emwe[acl]: poop ;)
22:18.51[acl]emwe: sup dood. any good news ? on anything?
22:19.17emwe[acl]: just doing some comparisons to other trees regarding unblank stuff.
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22:20.13[acl]emwe: supersonic seems to be good. im using most of that stuff. Any reason why we cant uncomment the cabc stuff on the nov driver ?
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22:20.34Cotullaanybody good here with X11?
22:20.37emwe[acl]: good in what respect?
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22:20.59emwe[acl]: haven't looked at cabc yet because everytime other PITA crops up...
22:21.16[acl]emwe: as in its a good model to have the brightness set in the panel code. instead of microp. Specially now since wistilt got autobl done without microp we can really move away from that
22:21.24nylhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm05cNBJQ8w
22:21.46Cotullaare there way to gain access to Window memoru
22:21.55Cotullaor just blit data from buffer to X11 window?
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22:22.50emwe[acl]: i am fine with whatever he comes up with and will adopt to topa ;) and yeah, should be in panel. but there should be something get/set'ing auto-bl status to userland. perhaps liblights can also report on boot in which mode the hw is in. i think it's just a userland->kernelland direction currently.
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22:23.22nyli'm thinking about something crazy
22:23.30nylandroid + kde merge
22:23.31nyl:|
22:23.40[acl]emwe: well he did say it needs to be moved out of dbgfs into /sys. so that will always remain there for lib lights
22:24.12Cotullasomething crazy - it's CE on top of L4 :P
22:24.21emwe[acl]: it's totally irrelevant where it lives imho. yeah, according to the logs the "pros" do it in sysfs... but that's just cosmetics.
22:24.59[acl]emwe: weird because i cant find it for example in the supersonic. is it there and im just blind ?
22:25.22Cotulla[ac], what are u doing now?
22:25.32gauner1986bleh.. why do c compilers get more restrictive with error messages over time
22:25.41gauner1986i shouldnt have upgraded
22:25.51emwe[acl]: you mean userland hooks? think it's in the board registering led devices. dunno offhand.
22:26.05[acl]Cotulla: killing bugs.. figuring out where to put autobl crap
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22:26.31[acl]emwe: well not the led stuff since thats kidna standard. but the autobl . but ur right. its cosmetic. Who cares.
22:28.10[acl]emwe: also i noticed that there are some binder errors in my logs. never really payed attention to them.
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22:28.56[acl]emwe: i dont have em on hand. But ill begin looking into em as well
22:28.59emwe[acl]: yes, seeing them too sometimes.
22:29.57emwe[acl]: so much stuff to look at. wanted to look at liblights for ages, too.
22:30.49[acl]emwe: i took a peek.. looks very simple
22:31.04emweyap. it is ;)
22:31.16emwethat's where the auto-bl-spam-fix landed ;)
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22:32.04[acl]emwe: i may have an old one sinec my logcat still shows calls to brightness even tho auto bl is enabled. or is it supposed to do that? no right
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22:33.02RaiderX303latest zImage on netripper doesnt support nandboot
22:33.35emwe[acl]: if auto-bl is enabled no calls to it ever.
22:33.50emwe[acl]: just boot and switch in userland.
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22:34.58emwe[acl]: perhaps the first thing all devs should check is uptodateness in libs, no? ;)
22:35.15[acl]haha.. need to tell wistilt that too
22:35.22[acl]i think he has a rootfs from october
22:35.35emwe[acl]: http://htcandroid.xland.cz/?C=M;O=D there is rootfs and initramfs folders...
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22:35.48emwe[acl]: alternative on stinebds autobuild sites.
22:35.57stinebd(they're the same files)
22:36.05emwehe's awake!
22:36.12phh<PROTECTED>
22:36.15[acl]hmm.. nov 15. the i must have the latest ones
22:36.23[acl]ill check again
22:36.24emwegeez, two awake.
22:36.45Alex[sp3dev]who let them wake up?
22:37.06emwelol
22:38.08RaiderX303gauner1986
22:38.15RaiderX303you want recovery image to test on hd2?
22:38.38Cotullahey Alex
22:38.42Cotullau god in X11?
22:38.45Cotulla*giid
22:38.48Cotulla*good
22:38.54Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: neither god nor good
22:39.02Cotullaheh noone
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22:39.08Alex[sp3dev]what do you want to do?
22:39.21Cotullaneed blit memory data to Xwindow surface
22:39.31Alex[sp3dev]why?
22:39.48Cotullajust raw data
22:41.02Cotullaand is DRI doing same task?
22:41.37RaiderX303how do i check if rmnet or ppp is being used?
22:41.51Cotullaifconfig
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22:42.21RaiderX303rmnet0 no such device
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22:47.06gauner1986wtf
22:47.11gauner1986where is gps.h in gingerbread?
22:47.29phhthey broke the api again. it's so funny.
22:47.33phh(actually no clue but well :p)
22:47.44gauner1986yeah
22:47.46gauner1986pretty much
22:48.11gauner1986there is no libutils anymore
22:48.15Alex[sp3dev]i suggest that android developers get anal punishment every time they commit code
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22:49.01nylwhere i can find the framebuffer config file
22:49.02plupkelocate gps    (if they left that command)
22:49.06nylin gingerbread
22:49.37plupkelocate "searchstring"
22:50.43gauner1986haha
22:50.49gauner1986i dont have an up to date locate database
22:50.50gauner1986sorry
22:50.51gauner1986:P
22:51.13Alex[sp3dev]i have removed locate from my system because it sucks
22:51.29[acl]emwe: i may need to educate myself on how android deals with blank and unblank. I have no clue where to begin to look
22:52.24Cotullayeah android code is whole fucked up
22:52.48emwe[acl]: haven't looked in that area at all. sorry, can't give any pointers.
22:52.48Alex[sp3dev]because it was written in java... oh no, because it was written by idiots
22:53.51Cotullayeah idiots
22:54.07gauner1986ah gps.h is now in libhardware
22:54.17Cotullatypedef struct android_native_buffer_t
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22:54.33Alex[sp3dev]for one, i don't understand why they have decided to take every single interface existing in linux and write their own, but make it worse and more buggy
22:54.35Cotullaand a lot of void* reserved[2];
22:54.38Cotulla:D
22:54.52Cotullait won't help to make it compatible
22:55.10CotullaAlex, linux interfaces are worst also
22:55.26Cotullajust yesterday can't find two functions
22:55.33Cotullafirst - get thread id
22:55.59Cotullaat the end I stolen from some googled answer  "pid_t gettid() { return syscall(SYS_gettid);}"
22:56.00Cotulla:D
22:56.06Cotullanice implementation :D
22:56.14RaiderX303i really need to learn C
22:56.15Alex[sp3dev]o rly? which one was bad? v4l2? alsa (which has the lowest delays among all audio systems)? or maybe suspend?
22:56.20Cotullaand second... how to flush dcache
22:56.22Cotulla?
22:56.24Cotulla:D
22:56.28Cotullain userspace
22:56.36Alex[sp3dev]why would you want to do that?
22:56.50Cotullawhy not?
22:57.05Alex[sp3dev]because in userspace you should not tinker with hardware
22:57.10Alex[sp3dev]there should be some syscall
22:57.20Cotullawhy not? userspace hardware driver, which won't broke system at fault
22:57.31Cotullaor debugging hardware driver as elf-app
22:57.59Cotullaand much more
22:58.16Cotullamost linux apis will be changed in next minor release also :)
22:58.55RaiderX303i dont see why they have to change things that aint broke
22:58.55Cotullaofcourse I can get thread id using pthreads
22:58.55Cotullait's nice to have such kind of library
22:58.55Cotullawhich is really standard for years
22:59.10Alex[sp3dev]yes. but it's better to refactor the code when you change the interface then to keep several interfaces just for compatibility
22:59.13gauner1986phh: you know why mm does select the generic target instead of my leo target? -> make: *** No rule to make target `out/target/product/generic/obj/lib/libutils.so', needed by `out/target/product/generic/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libgps_intermediates/LINKED/libgps.so'.  Stop.
22:59.23Alex[sp3dev]anyway it feels like a holywar
22:59.29phhgauner1986: you must configure it
22:59.35phhwith don't know what the fuck is that command.
22:59.43Cotullano it's not better, better support both interfaces, or just not touch anything
22:59.52Cotullaor... other thing
23:00.06CotullaWinAPI have such things like InterlockedIncrement
23:00.11Alex[sp3dev]even if the existing interface is not good, you should improve it and send patches upstream and not invent your own and break the existing one with hacks
23:00.13Cotullawhere are they in linux?
23:00.22CotullaI searched for 30 mins I didn't find anything
23:00.24Alex[sp3dev]in kernel or in userspace?
23:00.27Cotullaa lot of ppl asked
23:00.29Cotullauserspace
23:00.43Alex[sp3dev]gotta see. i am sure some solution must exist
23:00.45CotullaGCC internal functions __sync_ are not working for ARM
23:01.03gauner1986phh: hmmm.. google doesnt tell me much on that..
23:01.04Cotullaat the end I copied a code to my file:
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23:01.51Cotullalinux missing a lot of things
23:01.55[acl]jeez
23:02.37Cotullafind it all yesterday during meego porting
23:03.10Alex[sp3dev]Cotulla: i suppose, it is done so because in linux they choose the minimum subset of features supported by all architectures. and because you're not supposed to have any cpu dependent stuff in userspace
23:03.33gauner1986phh: ah ok, it was lunch :)
23:03.34Cotullabut I am on arm and things are missing, which prevent me from developing
23:03.41phhAlex[sp3dev]: many syscalls doesn't work on something else than arm/x86/ppc
23:04.01Cotullabtw google fixed a lot of such things in android... so I stolen few solutions from Android :P
23:04.53RaiderX303Cotulla, what base did you use for your kernel in the nand desire build?
23:05.43Cotullaown builded
23:06.05RaiderX303ok
23:06.19Cotullamy git
23:07.39RaiderX303ok, so far ive got in call audio working correctly, rmnet and fixed su, was there any other bugs?
23:09.27bzoAlex[sp3dev] hi
23:09.46Alex[sp3dev]bzo: hi.
23:10.00bzohey, can I bother you to send me the camera libs?
23:10.09bzono luck in getting them running myself
23:10.24Alex[sp3dev]http://www.mediafire.com/?2l67prf1vgd3gkz
23:10.34bzothx!
23:11.04bzodamn, just wasted an hour thinking we have an undocumented smi2 on the rhod
23:11.19Cotulla:D
23:11.29bzooemaddresstable lies!
23:11.52Cotulla:d
23:12.13RaiderX303gauner1986, your kernel you used for your HD build, is that on git?
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23:16.32whitekidneydurr why cant i adb push files to my sdcard?
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23:17.04Alex[sp3dev]i wonder... there is a cacheflush syscall in arm linux. why isn't it exported via headers.. at the same time, on MIPS it is available via syscall.h in userspace. we need to build a conspiracy theory to justify that
23:18.10Cotullayeah
23:18.15Cotullawhy it not exported
23:18.16Cotulla?
23:18.22emwebzo: hehe. i think we found that out some months ago  ;)
23:18.34Cotullain theory some library like "libarm.so" should hanlde all arch dependent stuffs
23:18.58bzoemwe: was trying a new test. Jbruneaux was looking at amss and oemaddresstable
23:18.59emwebzo: acl checked it back then by trying after parsing his dumped table told me the same
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23:19.35emwebzo: at least one thing goes on... camera ;)
23:19.38bzoemwe: when we last tried, the dump said smi1 was 64mb. But what we saw this time was 32mb+32mb
23:20.12emwebzo: i think acl tried to setup another bank at offset 32mb but failed to get the device up.
23:21.22emwebzo: ah, was even your dumped table ;)
23:21.38bzoemwe: when looking at oemaddress table, are there flags or something telling you if it is accessible?
23:22.35emwebzo: puh. i think i once had some doc about it around. but do you think htc is keeping something such good away from all users?
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23:23.25bzoemwe: nah not that. In jb dumps, there were a 2 1mb segments in the upper ebi mem that we know we can't use
23:23.32bzojust wondering if you were filtering those out
23:23.45emwebzo: filtering some out, yes. one sec
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23:24.46sykosoftso, looking back to what I said I'd do
23:25.00emwebzo: http://pastebin.com/ZT0ewXtB
23:25.02sykosoftI tried to strace system_server, however, I have init killed an untracked pid everytime I try
23:25.20sykosoftand attaching strace while the system was up didn't reveal much, I'm going to try it again, with timestamps
23:25.36sykosoftalso, I attempted the "fix" for the previously mentioned bug thread about system_server
23:25.40emwebzo: plz always recheck the calculated values ;)
23:25.41sykosoftinvolving location services
23:26.01sykosoftI disabled all location services (and wifi/gps), and still experienced the problem, so that's not the problem
23:26.22emwesykosoft: strangely the issue goes away when enabling location service.
23:26.43sykosoftemwe: can you be more specific?
23:26.48arrrghhhsykosoft: or making a phone call.  which to me is very strange indeed.
23:26.53whitekidneywhy cant i adb push files to my sdcard?
23:27.16emwesykosoft: enabel location service or make a phone call. drops cpu load after some secs.
23:27.25arrrghhhbasically if you make a call, or open places/maps it'll settle system_server for whatever reason.
23:27.38arrrghhhwhitekidney: this is NOT a support channel.  you're probably just doing it wrong.
23:27.41bzoemwe: jb analysis: http://pastebin.com/dGpRPd8H
23:27.47sykosoftarggghhh: emwe: I'm going to be attaching various tracing/debugging tools, then "fixing it" via phone call, etc
23:27.48emwesykosoft: so it very much seems that an ioctl to the shared memory device (smd) is causing trouble which is fixed after cell based location query or phone call
23:27.50whitekidneyarrrghhh: It says the system is R only. derp
23:27.50sykosoftsee if I can figure out why
23:28.09arrrghhhderp on you
23:28.13sykosoftit would be a lot easier if I could make adb work, but I couldn't, my device never showed up
23:28.26emwesykosoft: on linux?
23:28.36sykosoftwindows 7 for my computer
23:28.37arrrghhhlol emwe ninja'd me.
23:28.43arrrghhhsykosoft: i've got a thread for ya 1 sec.
23:28.44sykosoftI've used adb on other android devices
23:28.55bzoemwe: err, nevermind I guess it is the same as yours
23:28.59arrrghhhit's not quite the same on this i believe.
23:28.59emwearrrghhh: i did what? ;)
23:29.05arrrghhhemwe: don't sweat it :P
23:29.20arrrghhhsykosoft: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849718
23:29.48arrrghhhi had it working perfectly, and had to go thru that rigamaroll to get it working again.
23:29.51emwebzo: pardon? that your dump analyzed.
23:29.53sykosoftI was surprised that modifying the init.rc (as shown in many places across the web) to strace system-server (the zygote line), caused init to print out messages about an untracked pid exiting
23:30.13emwesykosoft: i think that is always visible.
23:30.32emweanyway... ouch late. very late. got to go. have fun everyone.
23:30.40bzoemwe: meant his dump of the rhod400  matches your dump of my 400
23:30.54sykosoftemwe: no, it wouldn't boot, simply looping over and over for 20 minutes
23:30.56emwebzo: it was your dump ;) look at the first line ;)
23:31.02emwesykosoft: oh...
23:31.04sykosoftI checked my syntax several times, I did get "output", but nothing useful
23:31.16emwethen you found something new. get adb working ;)
23:31.18sykosoftbasically, it would output it spawning the process, one single line
23:31.21emwea lot more helpful :)
23:31.29bzoemwe: right - your dump/analysis of my 400
23:31.41emwe;)
23:31.49emwegnight everyone. short night...
23:35.27arrrghhhsykosoft: do you have/use droid explorer?
23:35.34arrrghhhg'nite emwe :D
23:35.57sykosoftno, I'm not familiar with droid explorer
23:36.14arrrghhhwell that makes ADB real easy on windoze
23:36.37arrrghhhsykosoft: i'd recommend starting with droid explorer, and if that still fails to get adb working i'd look at that link i posted
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23:41.15gauner1986cotulla: tell me about this :)
23:41.16gauner1986E/RenderScript(  293): GL Error, 0x500, from VertexArray::setupGL
23:41.36gauner1986seems me 3d is fucked
23:41.40gauner1986on cm
23:46.33sykosoftworking on droid explorer install now
23:51.26Cotullalol debuggin in GDB
23:51.27Cotullaso funny
23:52.14Cotullau are sitting like monkey near computer ^^
23:52.53nylcan someone tell where i can find the framebuffer screen density setting?
23:53.06nylin gingerbread
23:57.24Proz000thx all nn
23:58.04sykosoftdoes startup.txt allow an init= argument?
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23:59.36Apocsgood night everyone

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