| 00:05.46 | gentoofr34k | dcordes: but i want to learn more about developing on android side here maybe |
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| 00:07.40 | jon_ | hi |
| 00:08.14 | jon_ | I was wondering if anybody has gotten the eadphones/headset to work on the lates update? |
| 00:09.54 | jon_ | anybody here? |
| 00:11.26 | xUmaRix | phh did u c this http://pastebin.com/ZkZqPMxE |
| 00:12.26 | gentoofr34k | jon_: yes here i am |
| 00:12.33 | gentoofr34k | jon_: you mean over BT ? |
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| 00:14.50 | gentoofr34k | xUmaRix: what do you mean with your paste ? |
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| 00:25.43 | hefty | whats the status on hardware accelerated opengles for the rhodium |
| 00:29.07 | gentoofr34k | no one answer here to questions... and no one want to start a diskus -.- not a good irc |
| 00:29.15 | gentoofr34k | and not acitve here |
| 00:29.53 | hefty | what? |
| 00:30.12 | craigus | gentoofr34k-lol |
| 00:30.54 | hefty | im not a non developer though. i can talk in that format. i was just curious to why opengles is still in software mode on my rhodium :( |
| 00:31.03 | hefty | i dont come from a linux background, so |
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| 00:31.31 | hefty | i do stuff for win32 mainly |
| 00:32.23 | jon_ | meh |
| 00:32.26 | jon_ | anybody here? |
| 00:34.34 | programmer8922 | yeah |
| 00:34.38 | gentoofr34k | yeah |
| 00:34.45 | gentoofr34k | this works :D |
| 00:35.51 | gentoofr34k | the bluetooth issue still exist :) anybody fixes for that? about the a2dp streaming to BT headset ?! |
| 00:36.25 | gentoofr34k | j |
| 00:37.06 | gentoofr34k | hefty: first of all is here (also in every irc) the nettiquette :) say hello and ask :) what have you forgotten? |
| 00:37.25 | gentoofr34k | craigus: ;) |
| 00:37.27 | jonpry | phh: can you get anything to come out of mplayer? in debian, aplay works, but i get nothing from mplayer |
| 00:37.42 | jon_ | said hello like 30 minutes ago |
| 00:38.09 | jon_ | has anybody figured out how to use the 3.5mm on the raph? |
| 00:38.28 | jon_ | sorry rhodium |
| 00:39.14 | jon_ | that is like the only thing i need to actually consider switching to android full time.... |
| 00:39.37 | psycho | gentoofr34k: what BT chip do you have? |
| 00:39.48 | gentoofr34k | psycho: how to figure this out? |
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| 00:39.58 | gentoofr34k | psycho: ive a raph101 from o2 germany |
| 00:41.53 | jonpry | psycho: how goes it with HID? |
| 00:42.42 | psycho | jonpry: I am making progress... trying to port dbus-daemon-proxy over to android |
| 00:42.54 | psycho | once that is done I should be able to debug with d-feet |
| 00:43.45 | psycho | bluez is patched to use the broadcom stack so calling bluez library directly will not work |
| 00:43.56 | psycho | and the broadcom stack isn't open source |
| 00:44.34 | psycho | im hoping that it uses the dbus to function... seems like the only way it would work |
| 00:45.08 | gentoofr34k | psycho: how to figure out what bt chip is actually in my RAPH? have several apps on it.. but no one shows me the right output |
| 00:45.28 | psycho | you would need to goto HTC site and search i think |
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| 00:46.29 | en1gma | im running xdandroid off the sd card and i was wondering which skype do i install? the reason i ask is when i goto m.skype.com it says it dont have a version for my phone....i have the TP2 cdma |
| 00:47.08 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: ive searched for that too but the only one i found is the beta from may |
| 00:47.30 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: it works without problems on my xandroid with raph but no calls only chat |
| 00:47.31 | en1gma | how do i install it? im running off the sd card |
| 00:47.39 | en1gma | omg |
| 00:47.41 | en1gma | no calls |
| 00:48.09 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: yes you can chat but i dunno if a newer version exists anywhere |
| 00:48.29 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: im actually waiting too for a new official release for that |
| 00:48.34 | en1gma | if i want to chat there are alot of chat clients......i need to call over wifi |
| 00:48.52 | en1gma | i thought skype said it was for android |
| 00:48.58 | en1gma | and blackberry |
| 00:49.11 | en1gma | is it because it dont work with froyo? |
| 00:49.41 | psycho | i heard verizon has a deal with skype so you can only get it on thier phones, not sure how true that is |
| 00:49.52 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: i dunno... but for official releases for tmobile or o2 you can download a version via sms |
| 00:50.34 | gentoofr34k | psycho: thats right... ive also tested fring.. but skype has chanceled fring contact to skype network |
| 00:50.36 | en1gma | i only have wifi...maybe thats part of the problem |
| 00:50.48 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: no thats no part of the problem |
| 00:51.08 | psycho | yeah fring worked for me for 2 days... then they got canned |
| 00:51.13 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: the software (beta) status at all is the problem |
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| 00:51.52 | en1gma | fring did same thing with magickack sip info.....magicjack made the passwd to long for the fring entry box and fring hasnt fixed it in over a year |
| 00:52.16 | gentoofr34k | im searching personaly for a developer for this kind of project with asterisk and skype with an android app |
| 00:52.16 | en1gma | skype lists android and symbian as the OS`s it supports |
| 00:52.23 | jon_ | so anyone have any ideas on how to get the 3.5 mm audio jack working? |
| 00:52.43 | gentoofr34k | en1gma: you can make a test for your device :) on my raph it doesent work |
| 00:52.55 | gentoofr34k | jon_: havent that device |
| 00:53.03 | undarated79 | sup peeps. im interested in learning how to develop. can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 00:53.30 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: what kind of developing :) |
| 00:53.43 | undarated79 | android for rhod400 |
| 00:53.45 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: java ? --> wrong channel |
| 00:53.50 | psycho | undarated79: go here for android sdk http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html |
| 00:54.04 | undarated79 | thanks a lot psycho |
| 00:54.10 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: ah ok yes download sdk and google around for the right gui |
| 00:54.32 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: i prefer gentoo for devs... but thats a relegion question |
| 00:54.43 | undarated79 | gentoo linux? |
| 00:54.58 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: yes.. its the solid rock of all linux devirates |
| 00:55.13 | jon_ | meh, i use ubuntu or debian usually |
| 00:55.16 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: works with every hardware and every packed |
| 00:55.17 | psycho | i have always been a redhat guy since way back but im really digging the repositories that are with ubuntu |
| 00:55.22 | jon_ | never had problems... |
| 00:55.33 | undarated79 | i have ubuntu. will that suffice |
| 00:55.38 | jon_ | should |
| 00:55.43 | undarated79 | good deal |
| 00:55.48 | psycho | i had issues with the 32 bit |
| 00:55.54 | psycho | the google site is a bit out of data |
| 00:55.56 | psycho | date* |
| 00:55.57 | gentoofr34k | im a guy of 24/7 about years of lifetime for my hardware |
| 00:56.04 | gentoofr34k | best experience is gentoo |
| 00:56.25 | undarated79 | well im on a alienware M17x and a 32-bit ubuntu. need i get the 64 real quick |
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| 00:56.27 | gentoofr34k | ubuntu will be too slow in some cases |
| 00:56.56 | jon_ | i dunno, never had any real problems with any distro. the lxde ubuntu is smokin fast... |
| 00:57.10 | jon_ | actually ubdating bt4s kernel was a bitch |
| 00:57.16 | gentoofr34k | :D |
| 00:57.19 | psycho | undarated79: it will work on 32 bit I just formatted and installed 64 bit because when i built android from source it would error out |
| 00:57.32 | undarated79 | ah ok. |
| 00:58.17 | gentoofr34k | do a fresh stage3 install and all works correctly :) |
| 00:58.28 | undarated79 | i have a vm installed. is it necessary |
| 00:58.55 | psycho | not if you have ubuntu install natively |
| 00:59.09 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: no man :) use whatever you want... |
| 00:59.17 | jon_ | is it just to compile? |
| 00:59.19 | gentoofr34k | im a freak of gentoo linux |
| 00:59.22 | psycho | I ran ubuntu in virtualbox on a windows host and it worked great |
| 00:59.35 | gentoofr34k | jon_: yes emerge works out from source |
| 00:59.38 | undarated79 | i don't because i cant get it to play nice with raid and my 2 gfx cards |
| 00:59.48 | psycho | i could even use adb and debug over usb |
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| 01:00.08 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-802061-view-next.html?sid=5e7b15b29b03ff6b3e3c0970b8439665 |
| 01:00.29 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: take a look at these scripts and make some coffe or drin a beer :) if it installs |
| 01:00.44 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: it also works in any vm or virtualbox |
| 01:00.58 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: just booting from livedvd & cd |
| 01:01.14 | undarated79 | preciate it bro. i just need to get started. |
| 01:01.26 | jon_ | you could do that, or install it on usb... |
| 01:01.34 | undarated79 | where will i ask all my questions since this is the beginning for me |
| 01:01.43 | jon_ | usb is pretty nice to play, persistent environment and etc... |
| 01:02.18 | gentoofr34k | undarated79: :D hey dont be afraid... im a freak of that ;) use some ubuntu for starting the first years |
| 01:02.40 | gentoofr34k | jon_: but lifetime from stick get sucked |
| 01:03.01 | undarated79 | lol. will do. i just don't know linux code too well but im willing to learn |
| 01:03.16 | psycho | linux is way easier to code in that windows |
| 01:03.33 | gentoofr34k | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.52 | undarated79 | thats why I wanna learn it |
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| 01:03.58 | gentoofr34k | if youre interested in get some docs and crap it |
| 01:04.50 | jon_ | meh, i dont code much more than perl/python so it doesnt really make a huge dif to me. |
| 01:05.09 | gentoofr34k | its nice to hear some people that dont want to aid mr gates |
| 01:05.22 | gentoofr34k | perl is a nice try |
| 01:05.24 | psycho | i have a custom kernel i wrote in linux and load it using grub... it wasn't really all that hard. learned alot about how assembly works |
| 01:05.25 | gentoofr34k | :D |
| 01:05.27 | jon_ | windows is for games... |
| 01:05.30 | jon_ | honestly |
| 01:05.34 | psycho | agreed |
| 01:05.48 | gentoofr34k | how about our skype issue ? |
| 01:05.55 | gentoofr34k | has anybody a correct version? |
| 01:05.57 | jon_ | windows7 partition = 200gb of games.... |
| 01:06.05 | gentoofr34k | omg |
| 01:06.08 | gentoofr34k | to much time! |
| 01:06.09 | undarated79 | yeah thats what i say<jon_> windows is for games... |
| 01:06.26 | undarated79 | but i have this machine and don't even play any |
| 01:06.35 | gentoofr34k | kk |
| 01:06.53 | gentoofr34k | i still wanna get a working skype version :) |
| 01:07.01 | gentoofr34k | need voip too |
| 01:07.05 | undarated79 | for what |
| 01:07.09 | psycho | i may be able to get the apk from a friends phone |
| 01:07.11 | gentoofr34k | for raph101 |
| 01:07.19 | jon_ | if linux ever got some serious gaming going, windows would be bankrupt or seriously restructuring their business inside of 2 years |
| 01:07.19 | psycho | but idk if it will work on other phones |
| 01:07.45 | gentoofr34k | check it out and write me an email |
| 01:08.21 | jon_ | anyway, is there any good documentation to get started on debuggin android on htc? im new to mobile dev... |
| 01:08.21 | psycho | k i will see him at work tomorrow |
| 01:08.52 | psycho | jon_: I would install the sdk and adb using eclipse |
| 01:09.01 | undarated79 | im on rhod so i don't know anything about skype |
| 01:09.03 | gentoofr34k | ehhh no priv here ? |
| 01:09.04 | gentoofr34k | omg |
| 01:09.04 | psycho | then take a look at the hello world app on googles site |
| 01:09.18 | gentoofr34k | no eclipse for all man -.- |
| 01:09.29 | gentoofr34k | thats a horrible tool |
| 01:09.46 | psycho | what do you recommend... it was easiest to install for me |
| 01:09.55 | gentoofr34k | easy to install hard to use |
| 01:09.56 | gentoofr34k | -.- |
| 01:10.03 | gentoofr34k | emacs |
| 01:10.15 | psycho | just straight up text editor eh? |
| 01:10.22 | gentoofr34k | i prefer for all things with code an customzed emacs |
| 01:10.24 | psycho | i could do that if I was a better java coder |
| 01:10.53 | gentoofr34k | no man go on and customize your workplace first.. it takes about a week to learn all cuts |
| 01:11.02 | gentoofr34k | but then youre "saying" code |
| 01:11.32 | psycho | yeah i have to rely on the IDE to tell me what i did wrong right now |
| 01:11.38 | jon_ | never got into emacs... stuck ti vi with highlighting... |
| 01:11.46 | gentoofr34k | you can customize with emacs everything.. all types all langs almost everything |
| 01:11.48 | jon_ | *to vi* |
| 01:12.22 | gentoofr34k | if you want a gui use it on windows :) 199GB games 1gb emacs ;) |
| 01:12.24 | gentoofr34k | lol |
| 01:12.50 | psycho | man it seems like someone would know a good way to debug dbus on android, I have looked everywhere and cant find a good way to do it |
| 01:12.58 | gentoofr34k | hey guys it was nice to talk about some bullshit on 3am ;) but its time to say good bye.. |
| 01:13.05 | gentoofr34k | psycho: how about the apk ? |
| 01:13.15 | psycho | dbus-monitor does not work because backtrace is not compiled into the phone |
| 01:13.15 | gentoofr34k | psycho: dont want to paste some email here |
| 01:13.58 | gentoofr34k | psycho: /msg dont work here?! |
| 01:14.16 | psycho | gentoofr34k: I will be on here tomorrow after work, hop on if you get a chance and I will let you know |
| 01:14.42 | gentoofr34k | psycho: just go on to priv pls |
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| 01:24.03 | craigus | . |
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| 01:37.20 | en1gma | how do you use google voice over wifi |
| 01:37.25 | en1gma | when i try to add this TP2 it says it cant verify it or something |
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| 01:40.34 | snowboarder86 | hello im new to this and i have a question |
| 01:40.51 | snowboarder86 | what allocation unit size should i format my sd card with |
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| 01:45.14 | snowboarder86 | anybody? |
| 01:45.46 | HardDisk_WP | use default |
| 01:46.11 | HardDisk_WP | en1gma, enable unsigned .cabs, google for it |
| 01:47.20 | dcordes | Cass: but I guess we can still add it |
| 01:47.24 | HardDisk_WP | snowboarder86, default is 4K, but not sure |
| 01:47.26 | HardDisk_WP | afk, bed |
| 01:47.34 | Cass | dcordes, yes |
| 01:47.45 | Cass | i dont think it will do harm |
| 01:47.54 | dcordes | as long as it works |
| 01:48.16 | dcordes | htc-msm-2.6.32 is freestyle kernel anyway |
| 01:48.18 | Cass | it does, you just have to use the google tether app for easiest usage on android |
| 01:48.24 | Cass | lol to say the least :) |
| 01:48.39 | dcordes | we should go codeaurora |
| 01:49.25 | Cass | i dont know what the hell we should do .. some say evo, other ca .. cotualla cagy about what he is doing .. im confuzzled about where this is going tbh |
| 01:50.03 | Cass | seems to me if branches are switched there will be a back to basics scenario |
| 01:50.09 | Cass | ie, nothing will work |
| 01:50.22 | dcordes | tbh right now I'm ok with htc-msm-2.6.32 . if we want updoate kernel in future we should look into codeaurora/mainline |
| 01:50.31 | dcordes | up to date |
| 01:50.58 | Cass | yeah given there is a -34 kernel out there :) |
| 01:51.02 | dcordes | yes of course you need to add all the device specific changes again if you start from new branch |
| 01:51.36 | Cass | yeah but to me if we move to a new branch then it will be a lot of work not to make it eh same mess as the current one .. no ? |
| 01:51.55 | Cass | and atm im not sure what it gives us this close to a fully working device |
| 01:52.01 | dcordes | yeah I think markinus tried to keep it clean in his supersonic approach |
| 01:52.08 | dcordes | I must say I miss the maintainance of credit |
| 01:52.14 | dcordes | smany people get really pissed over this |
| 01:52.37 | Cass | credit ? |
| 01:53.24 | dcordes | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-wince-htc if you look at the commit log the only author is markinus |
| 01:54.10 | Cass | ohh i like tha |
| 01:54.11 | Cass | t |
| 01:54.16 | Cass | leo specific |
| 01:54.36 | dcordes | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32 if you look at that log you see different authors |
| 01:54.42 | Cass | yeah |
| 01:55.26 | dcordes | I propose extracting the list of leo contributors and adding it somehow on gitorious along with reference to the old branch |
| 01:55.30 | Cass | so markinus changes can be integrated to another branch without really breaking stuff |
| 01:55.35 | Cass | ? |
| 01:55.36 | dcordes | what does htc-v6 mean btw ? |
| 01:55.46 | Cass | no idea |
| 01:55.51 | dcordes | s/markinus/htc-msm-2.6.32/ |
| 01:55.56 | dcordes | that's what he did |
| 01:56.24 | dcordes | who is Norbert Freitag ? |
| 01:56.44 | Cass | no idea, just wondered that myself :) |
| 01:57.00 | Cass | someone from iceland/denmark ? |
| 01:57.08 | Cass | sweden possibly |
| 01:57.15 | dcordes | norway |
| 01:57.18 | dcordes | ? |
| 01:57.25 | Cass | yep one of those names |
| 01:57.33 | hefty | norway is pretty close to those areas |
| 01:58.08 | dcordes | haha |
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| 01:58.44 | dcordes | I think I will watch that branch for a bit while I keep working in htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 02:00.16 | Cass | http://twitter.com/norbertfreitag |
| 02:00.22 | Cass | im guessing its him :) |
| 02:00.32 | Cass | german possibly |
| 02:00.53 | dcordes | it's good to have new contributors on board . |
| 02:01.28 | Cass | yeah .. hd2 seems to have exploded these days |
| 02:01.29 | dcordes | Cass: you seen this http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-August/000164.html ? |
| 02:01.58 | dcordes | I was hoping somebody would review it |
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| 02:04.29 | Cass | the patch looked ok to me when i read it before, looks to only change a few things and more importantly it works |
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| 02:06.21 | Cass | main thing is i suppose is it seems to remove some device specific stuff, legend in partictular .. not sure if we care abt that though |
| 02:07.45 | dcordes | ~leo-android |
| 02:07.45 | apt | hmm... leo-android is http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Android |
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| 02:11.21 | dcordes | Cass: it works means you tried it ? |
| 02:11.28 | Cass | yeah |
| 02:11.56 | Cass | whn it was posted and i found my kernel did not have working bt with a shu8i build |
| 02:12.05 | Cass | so i patched, then it did work |
| 02:12.39 | Cass | only 1 thing im not sure abt is all the defconfig changes |
| 02:13.42 | Cass | afaics all that is needed is the bravo UART things |
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| 02:29.29 | Jerry_ | Hello |
| 02:29.59 | Jerry_ | Can some one please tell me about how long the first boot for XDAndroid takes for a touch pro 2? |
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| 02:33.10 | jonpry | 5 minutes? |
| 02:33.40 | Jerry_ | So, If I am on the loading screen after the linux text boot for about 10 should I just wait or retry? |
| 02:33.41 | WoZZeR | 24 hours, 13 minutes, 5 seconds, 4 milliseconds and .25 microseconds |
| 02:33.52 | WoZZeR | Jerry_: it can take a while with some cards |
| 02:33.58 | WoZZeR | do you have a class 2 SD card in it? |
| 02:34.05 | Jerry_ | I have no idea |
| 02:34.08 | WoZZeR | I've seen anywhere from 5 minutes to 20 minutes |
| 02:34.11 | Jerry_ | I have a 4gb card... |
| 02:34.33 | Jerry_ | So it is working because it is past the text phase? |
| 02:35.37 | WoZZeR | yeah, most likely |
| 02:35.48 | WoZZeR | it can hang-up there though |
| 02:37.06 | Jerry_ | Well I think I will stick it out, Android for this phone seems worth it to me. I'll give it 20 more minutes :) |
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| 02:37.18 | Jerry_ | Thanks for the help. |
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| 02:41.58 | xUmaRix | 002.891 GPIOS out2: out2-14(78)=1 |
| 02:42.09 | xUmaRix | 004.001 GPIOS out2: out2-14(78)=0 |
| 02:42.35 | xUmaRix | blac100 gpio 78th for 3.5mm jack detection |
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| 02:48.07 | jonpry | hey wozzer, any news? |
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| 02:51.55 | Jerry_ | Was I supposed to take everything off of my SD card and then format it before installing this? ... It is still trying to boot up :( |
| 02:52.16 | jonpry | no format. just install the cab |
| 02:54.12 | Jerry_ | What is the cab file called? |
| 02:54.53 | Jerry_ | I found instructions for a Gen Y dual boot, and I installed a cab file from that, would that be messing with anything? |
| 02:57.34 | jonpry | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads |
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| 02:59.25 | jonpry | phh: can you enable SYSV_IPC in defconfig. causes problems when it is not there and we don't really care about the supposed security flaws |
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| 03:03.46 | Jerry_ | I should have my SIM card out when installing for the first time correct? |
| 03:04.58 | jonpry | no. this is not complicated. no spl, no radio, no security unlock. just download cab. run. select install to sd card. run program |
| 03:08.57 | jonpry | wozzer, you determined that writing the wav file makes it crash? |
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| 03:56.56 | en1gma_ | i have the TP2 and when im in wm6.5 i have cell service but if i reboot into froyo 2.2 i dont have it.....do i need to do something to turn it on somehow? |
| 03:57.35 | jonpry | you have a cdma phone right |
| 03:57.39 | en1gma_ | yep |
| 03:57.52 | jonpry | you check force cdma when starting android? |
| 03:58.26 | en1gma_ | i followed the tutorial and it just said copy the .cab to the sd card and then run the cab and install it to the sd card |
| 03:58.30 | en1gma_ | and soft reset |
| 03:58.52 | en1gma_ | but it didnt give me a boot loader option so when i got back into wm6.5 i ran haret.exe |
| 03:58.57 | undarated79 | enigma i alwaus had better luck with the rar |
| 03:59.29 | en1gma_ | even if i unrared to the sd card it would do the same thing |
| 03:59.40 | jonpry | it puts an icon in your programs folder that says "ProjectAndroid". when you click on that it will have a checkbox for force cdma |
| 03:59.43 | en1gma_ | is there a txt file i need to edit with what you said |
| 03:59.51 | en1gma_ | omg |
| 04:00.04 | en1gma_ | this might have too |
| 04:00.16 | en1gma_ | i only checked the haret.exe with file explorer |
| 04:00.33 | en1gma_ | is there an easy way to reboot without the soft reset |
| 04:00.52 | undarated79 | here is a startup.txt i modded http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=130712 |
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| 04:02.39 | en1gma_ | thanks |
| 04:02.45 | undarated79 | did you get it |
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| 04:04.26 | undarated79 | enigma you there |
| 04:05.06 | en1gma_ | yea i here |
| 04:05.13 | undarated79 | which carrier |
| 04:05.16 | en1gma_ | i had to find my acct details to dload it |
| 04:05.23 | en1gma_ | us cellular for a bit |
| 04:05.34 | undarated79 | rhod 400 or 500? |
| 04:05.59 | en1gma_ | i not sure how to tell |
| 04:06.28 | en1gma_ | its touch pro 2 cdma but it also has a sim card slot |
| 04:06.29 | undarated79 | take battery out it should tell you |
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| 04:08.35 | en1gma_ | its out |
| 04:08.41 | en1gma_ | but i dont see where to lookl |
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| 04:08.55 | undarated79 | look above the serial and all on grey part |
| 04:08.57 | [acl] | lets get this party started |
| 04:08.59 | en1gma_ | i also heard a wierd sound when i power off and remove batt....i still had usb hooked up |
| 04:09.16 | en1gma_ | 400 |
| 04:09.26 | jonpry | what party? |
| 04:09.36 | undarated79 | ok the startup fil you got is right then |
| 04:10.01 | [acl] | jonpry: somewhere along the way ... this happened [ 451.849029] hw3d: hw3d_irq_handler: IRQ HANDLER IS WORKING !!!!! |
| 04:10.05 | en1gma_ | will i be able to save that file and use it over and over even when i get diff builds of 2.2 |
| 04:10.09 | jonpry | wtf! |
| 04:10.09 | undarated79 | download the latest package and replace startup with the new one |
| 04:10.15 | undarated79 | yep |
| 04:10.21 | en1gma_ | awesome...thanks man |
| 04:10.26 | undarated79 | no prob |
| 04:10.29 | [acl] | jonpry: may be a false positive.. i need to check .. |
| 04:10.37 | WoZZeR | [acl]: jonpry: yo |
| 04:10.43 | [acl] | jonpry: crashing during boot anim right now |
| 04:10.55 | [acl] | WoZZeR: sup dood |
| 04:11.08 | jonpry | always a good sign. what have you been changing to get it working? |
| 04:11.26 | [acl] | jonpry: the sad part is i dont know |
| 04:11.27 | WoZZeR | [acl]: you coming along on 3d? |
| 04:11.39 | WoZZeR | jonpry: any new ideas for sound? |
| 04:11.39 | [acl] | WoZZeR: [ 451.849029] hw3d: hw3d_irq_handler: IRQ HANDLER IS WORKING !!!!! ... i need to verify.. |
| 04:12.11 | WoZZeR | yeah, I just saw that |
| 04:12.19 | WoZZeR | anything I can test? |
| 04:12.37 | [acl] | WoZZeR: i dont really know what got it to work.. so im tracing back my steps |
| 04:12.38 | en1gma_ | what about hardware 3d |
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| 04:12.49 | jonpry | wozzer: you determined that the sound generator line makes it crash the phone? |
| 04:12.55 | en1gma_ | i see that project android thing and it also let me pick r400 and force cdma |
| 04:13.04 | en1gma_ | not sure about hardware 3d though |
| 04:13.08 | WoZZeR | [acl]: should I keep Alex's clocks-ce or should I wait for your new stuff |
| 04:13.18 | WoZZeR | jonpry: I know that if I comment out that line, it runs fine |
| 04:13.32 | [acl] | WoZZeR: seeing that my clocks may have fixed 3d.. id wait |
| 04:13.43 | [acl] | but i dont know for sure.. alex and i have very similar code |
| 04:13.54 | WoZZeR | [acl]: should I remove the amss stuff, since it may not be needed? |
| 04:13.59 | WoZZeR | just have everyone use def? |
| 04:14.22 | [acl] | nah.. i need phh to give the green light on that kinda stuff. |
| 04:14.27 | WoZZeR | k |
| 04:15.01 | en1gma_ | what is the fastest sd card the TP2 can handle |
| 04:15.41 | WoZZeR | en1gma_: not all cards are created equal, you'll just have to test around. generally, higher classes are faster |
| 04:15.56 | WoZZeR | although I have seen class 4 out perform class 6 |
| 04:16.06 | WoZZeR | when comparing different brands |
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| 04:16.39 | en1gma_ | but i dont have to stay under any certain class? |
| 04:16.55 | WoZZeR | I've used up to class 6 |
| 04:17.00 | WoZZeR | don't know if micro has 8 or 10 |
| 04:17.36 | en1gma_ | i bet that class 8 is fast :) |
| 04:17.56 | en1gma_ | have you done any kind of speed test to see if the TP2 hardware can even go that fast |
| 04:18.01 | en1gma_ | hdparm -tT |
| 04:18.06 | WoZZeR | I have not |
| 04:18.22 | undarated79 | sup guys ive very interested in helping you guys get android on the tp2 . I just dont know where to start. any pointers |
| 04:19.20 | jonpry | en1gma. tp2 hardware will be fine all the way to class 12 |
| 04:19.26 | [acl] | fuck i dont get it.. its not calling the handler anymore |
| 04:20.31 | [acl] | anyone have a copy of the modded gralloc the blac people use? |
| 04:20.44 | [acl] | that was poorly worded.. i mean the blackstone devs |
| 04:20.57 | en1gma_ | that pretty good |
| 04:21.09 | WoZZeR | [acl]: yeah |
| 04:21.15 | WoZZeR | you damn racist |
| 04:21.19 | en1gma_ | if i keep this tp2....and since i enabled that hardware 3d....it looks like i should as it is alot faster now |
| 04:21.56 | jonpry | en1gma, don't enable harware3d. it doesn't work on rhodium. |
| 04:22.10 | en1gma_ | it seems ALOT faster |
| 04:22.16 | [acl] | wishful thinking |
| 04:22.22 | [acl] | can do crazy things |
| 04:22.23 | [acl] | lol |
| 04:22.23 | en1gma_ | no i can tell |
| 04:22.28 | en1gma_ | it is for sure alot faster |
| 04:22.34 | jonpry | its your second boot. there is a dex cache |
| 04:22.35 | en1gma_ | im not surfing |
| 04:22.41 | en1gma_ | ooo |
| 04:22.53 | jonpry | if you try to run a 3d app. it just won't work instead of being slow |
| 04:22.54 | WoZZeR | [acl]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764948&page=2 |
| 04:23.10 | en1gma_ | ok that good to know |
| 04:23.19 | en1gma_ | i could swear this thing is alot faster |
| 04:23.27 | en1gma_ | let me reboot with it off and recheck |
| 04:24.02 | jonpry | [acl] apparently you got it working and just didn't know it |
| 04:24.24 | jonpry | wtf. i had alsa working yesterday. but today it doesn't work worth shit |
| 04:24.57 | [acl] | jonpry: according to my dmesg there were interrupts.. boot anim was runing and then BOOM arm9 crash so im baffled |
| 04:25.42 | jonpry | but you can't reproduce? |
| 04:25.56 | [acl] | im trying again in a bit.. reading more logs |
| 04:30.27 | WoZZeR | jonpry: have you tried calling WAV_PowerUp? |
| 04:30.53 | jonpry | are logs with wavewrapper indicate that it is never called |
| 04:31.02 | jonpry | *our |
| 04:31.03 | WoZZeR | it may be called in nk |
| 04:31.15 | jonpry | doesn't work like that |
| 04:31.27 | jonpry | nk might do something to get it running. but that code is not in the dll |
| 04:33.39 | [acl] | yeah |
| 04:33.41 | [acl] | we have interrupts |
| 04:33.43 | [acl] | but no 3d |
| 04:33.45 | [acl] | lol |
| 04:34.02 | [acl] | i need to eff with my mem settings now and see what the kovs people did |
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| 04:35.16 | [acl] | 11 irqs |
| 04:36.32 | jonpry | does it still crash? |
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| 04:39.05 | en1gma_ | where is wififofum |
| 04:39.17 | en1gma_ | i see it in marketplace but when i click it...its not there |
| 04:39.44 | [acl] | jonpry: no it no longer crashes.. trying out the new gralloc now |
| 04:39.53 | [acl] | need a 3d app as well |
| 04:40.15 | jonpry | this party is ready to get started |
| 04:41.48 | [acl] | fucking weird.. crashed again |
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| 04:48.25 | [acl] | i think i know why its crashing.. my gpu0 mem overlaps my ramconsole |
| 04:48.36 | [acl] | im such a baboon sometimes |
| 04:48.38 | Phh_ | Try htc-msm-linux @ 20100828_194124 from glenson's seems more stable for rhod |
| 04:49.34 | [acl] | wtf.. was that a fake phh? |
| 04:50.31 | WoZZeR | he signed on just to see that? |
| 04:50.46 | jonpry | lol |
| 04:51.32 | undarated79 | i don't know where to start to help you guys out. can someone tell me where to start? |
| 04:52.55 | [acl] | undarated79: hmm look at the kernel source? |
| 04:53.39 | undarated79 | i mean with a setup or software |
| 04:57.16 | WoZZeR | jonpry: I ran your wavedev with ida debugging, and I got lots of these errors - Debugged application message: Un-handled event[-1] in REC_STATE_PCM_CLOSE. |
| 04:58.52 | WoZZeR | it's one of these; |
| 04:58.52 | WoZZeR | Debugged application message: [D:AUD] . |
| 04:58.52 | WoZZeR | Debugged application message: REC(0,0) 333559 |
| 04:58.59 | WoZZeR | then 7 of these |
| 04:59.03 | WoZZeR | Debugged application message: [D:AUD] . |
| 04:59.03 | WoZZeR | Debugged application message: Un-handled event[-1] in REC_STATE_PCM_CLOSE. |
| 04:59.15 | WoZZeR | the rec number changes |
| 05:01.02 | jonpry | you get other D:AUD stuff? |
| 05:01.06 | jonpry | there should be a pile of it |
| 05:01.08 | WoZZeR | just a . |
| 05:01.25 | jonpry | need that wince dmesg |
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| 05:03.57 | WoZZeR | I think I'm dumping the entire memory now |
| 05:04.11 | WoZZeR | I'll try to find the [D:AUD] |
| 05:06.42 | jonpry | lol |
| 05:07.02 | jonpry | pd 0x16a00000 0x4000 |
| 05:10.38 | [acl] | i dont know whats more anoying.. haviing useless interrupts or not having em at all |
| 05:11.04 | WoZZeR | can I have haret output raw memory to a file? |
| 05:13.06 | jonpry | yes |
| 05:13.35 | jonpry | i think you just put a filename after the command |
| 05:14.29 | WoZZeR | ok, what about the pure memory part, without address or byte data? |
| 05:14.57 | jonpry | it could be converted i guess |
| 05:15.05 | WoZZeR | I was going to do it by hand |
| 05:15.12 | jonpry | why? |
| 05:15.29 | WoZZeR | it's plaintext |
| 05:15.34 | WoZZeR | so I don't need to know where it came from |
| 05:16.17 | jonpry | the dump to a file doesn't contain the addresses |
| 05:16.29 | WoZZeR | should I try adding a > |
| 05:16.52 | jonpry | no |
| 05:17.06 | WoZZeR | pd 0x16a00000 0x100000 test.txt |
| 05:17.09 | WoZZeR | is showing everything |
| 05:17.29 | jonpry | just type help. i don't remember what it says. but its easy |
| 05:17.35 | WoZZeR | I'll try agian |
| 05:18.18 | jonpry | [acl] aren't those interrupts the only the wrong with 3d? |
| 05:19.09 | WoZZeR | REDIR |
| 05:19.19 | [acl] | jonpry: thats what i thought |
| 05:19.28 | [acl] | jonpry: but now not so sure |
| 05:19.36 | [acl] | must be something stupid on my end |
| 05:19.38 | [acl] | i changed sooo much |
| 05:19.59 | [acl] | going back to the basics and recreating the irqs with the latest source |
| 05:21.32 | WoZZeR | jonpry: my dmesg is over a meg |
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| 05:23.39 | jonpry | you know where GNUToo's tree is? |
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| 05:24.41 | jonpry | argh |
| 05:26.01 | jonpry | wozzer give me telnet to your haret! |
| 05:26.08 | WoZZeR | ok, 1 sec |
| 05:29.25 | WoZZeR | jonpry: you get my message? |
| 05:31.48 | jonpry | yes, one sec |
| 05:32.56 | jonpry | pwf test.txt 0x16a00000 0x100000 |
| 05:33.11 | WoZZeR | what about it? |
| 05:33.21 | jonpry | that gets you raw mem |
| 05:33.27 | WoZZeR | yeah, I ran that |
| 05:33.29 | WoZZeR | it's over a meg |
| 05:33.33 | WoZZeR | there's till plain text at the end |
| 05:34.35 | jonpry | hmm |
| 05:34.36 | WoZZeR | found the audio area |
| 05:34.36 | WoZZeR | 1 sec |
| 05:34.47 | jonpry | plain text in the middle? |
| 05:34.50 | WoZZeR | [D:AUD] open TIAGC4.csv FAIL!! |
| 05:34.55 | WoZZeR | it's all plain text |
| 05:35.38 | jonpry | is there text after that? like the second 1mb? |
| 05:35.39 | WoZZeR | ok, lots of aud stuff |
| 05:35.42 | WoZZeR | please hold |
| 05:35.50 | WoZZeR | I have not tried the second meg |
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| 05:36.47 | WoZZeR | jonpry: Audio output from running your program - http://pastebin.com/bx9SX9cR |
| 05:36.52 | jonpry | its obviously so big it has wrapped somewhere. the beginning would say stuff about wince cold boot |
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| 05:37.07 | bmnbmn | I'm ready to get this hardware 3d party started |
| 05:37.15 | WoZZeR | jonpry: I agree, just no idea where |
| 05:37.48 | jonpry | ok lets try this |
| 05:38.09 | jonpry | say you boot with imagedev, then run android via haret. is there incall/outcall whatever |
| 05:38.23 | jonpry | then try boot with imagedev, run program, boot haret, check |
| 05:38.31 | WoZZeR | I can try |
| 05:38.40 | WoZZeR | going to have to setup some stuff |
| 05:39.02 | WoZZeR | I want to try something else first |
| 05:39.29 | WoZZeR | can you send me TIAGC4.csv? |
| 05:41.11 | jonpry | you don't want that. for a different phone |
| 05:41.17 | jonpry | it is supposed to fail |
| 05:41.27 | jonpry | then it falls back to the other file |
| 05:41.30 | WoZZeR | ok |
| 05:41.40 | jonpry | the reason it is breaking is because of waveOutOpen() |
| 05:42.05 | WoZZeR | I see a problem with your enable_adc |
| 05:42.05 | jonpry | notice the FAIL there. thats where it all goes to hell |
| 05:42.11 | WoZZeR | c_write_command(0x53,0x0); |
| 05:42.14 | WoZZeR | should be 52 |
| 05:43.39 | jonpry | your welcome to change it. but i think that code is phone specific. like it opens those stupid .csv files. there are actually like 5 of them. and deduces the parameters for those calls. i guess certain carriers like different audio filtering. also the phones have slightly different masses which changes the resonant frequencies |
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| 05:44.15 | WoZZeR | jonpry: sorry, I switched. I'm looking at audio.c |
| 05:46.35 | [acl] | Narroed it own to how i got the irqs to start |
| 05:46.41 | [acl] | but still cant tell why no 3d |
| 05:46.50 | [acl] | i get white screens when trying to run like videos now |
| 05:46.54 | [acl] | or the boot anim |
| 05:46.56 | bmnbmn | sweet |
| 05:46.59 | [acl] | its just one big whote screen |
| 05:47.31 | [acl] | jonpry, WoZZeR: on hw3d.c i changed IRQF_TRIGGER_HIGH to IRQF_TRIGGER_LOW |
| 05:47.57 | [acl] | that alone just gets irqs running |
| 05:48.01 | jonpry | umm. then if irq is not activated, you will get blasted |
| 05:48.33 | jonpry | that would get any not working irq running |
| 05:48.45 | [acl] | yeah.. i guess i was trying to force it |
| 05:49.20 | [acl] | but not a real tru HIGH irq |
| 05:49.30 | [acl] | we could switch to edge but wince has it at level |
| 05:49.31 | [acl] | so i dunno |
| 05:49.58 | jonpry | are you getting calls to clear the int? that would cause it retrigger for no reason |
| 05:50.23 | [acl] | yeh there are calls in 3d to disable the int |
| 05:51.38 | jonpry | wozzer, i think you are right about 0x53 |
| 05:51.47 | jonpry | that is volume. and is setting it to zero |
| 05:52.17 | WoZZeR | building now |
| 05:52.32 | WoZZeR | trying the audience_write I got from the dump |
| 05:52.44 | WoZZeR | are you still using my phone? |
| 05:53.39 | jonpry | you can have your phone back |
| 05:53.47 | WoZZeR | if you still want to use it it's ok |
| 05:53.53 | jonpry | don't use the audience write. it is useless |
| 05:53.57 | WoZZeR | ok |
| 05:54.16 | jonpry | you just put in the huge table? |
| 05:54.34 | WoZZeR | basically, then deleted it |
| 05:54.37 | WoZZeR | so it's not there anymore |
| 05:54.44 | WoZZeR | audience_write(0x25, 0x00, 0x00) |
| 05:54.45 | WoZZeR | that stuff |
| 05:55.19 | jonpry | yeah. the one from short one i put in recently is probably right except for a few things |
| 05:55.49 | jonpry | i'm more confused about why speaker doesn't work. it should. are you doing the haret tests now? |
| 05:55.57 | WoZZeR | you are using my phone |
| 05:56.09 | *** join/#htc-linux Cody (ae360328@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.54.3.40) |
| 05:56.16 | Cody | whats up |
| 05:56.18 | jonpry | i logged out :p |
| 05:56.32 | Cody | i got a question for you all |
| 05:56.40 | Cody | does the update tool in the start up utility work? |
| 05:56.40 | WoZZeR | jonpry: K |
| 05:56.49 | WoZZeR | downloading the haret package now |
| 05:57.14 | jonpry | cody, afaik, but you have to like hold a thumb on the screen until it finishes |
| 05:57.16 | Cody | well i just used it and now my phone has been loading android for the past 10 mins |
| 05:58.06 | Cody | why do you gotta hold your thumb on the screen? |
| 05:58.40 | jonpry | cause it will go to sleep and lose network and fail silently in the middle of something important |
| 05:58.55 | WoZZeR | jonpry: Cody: it's easier to update it on a PC |
| 05:59.01 | WoZZeR | it can run in windows |
| 05:59.08 | WoZZeR | just FYI |
| 05:59.16 | Cody | yea i figured |
| 05:59.24 | Cody | i seen the screen went off |
| 05:59.36 | jonpry | then its botched :-) |
| 05:59.42 | Cody | then i turned it back on and it said the update had finished but i only seen half the bar full |
| 05:59.55 | jonpry | yep yep |
| 05:59.56 | DuperMan | FLASH! ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 06:00.02 | Cody | yea its still loading |
| 06:00.21 | Cody | alright so how do i undo this and do it from the pc |
| 06:00.47 | jonpry | don't really need to undo. just do it again. i don't know how to do the pc thing |
| 06:02.39 | Cody | you dont know where i need ot put the new files at on the sd card? |
| 06:04.05 | *** join/#htc-linux JADEALEXANDER (61559a48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.85.154.72) |
| 06:04.29 | Cody | how do i manually update android from pc |
| 06:04.52 | JADEALEXANDER | I need to know how do I get the sound working on my htc touch pro two.. since I have installed droid |
| 06:04.53 | WoZZeR | DuperMan: you got nand? |
| 06:05.03 | Cody | no |
| 06:05.12 | WoZZeR | Cody: put the SD card in your computer |
| 06:05.17 | WoZZeR | run mjupdate or whatever |
| 06:05.28 | WoZZeR | and update android is where 'file' would normally be |
| 06:05.34 | Cody | i got my phone hooked up to my pc and in the sd card |
| 06:05.51 | JADEALEXANDER | anybody? |
| 06:06.02 | JADEALEXANDER | is it possible? |
| 06:06.09 | Cody | sound should automatically be working |
| 06:06.10 | jonpry | it should just work otb |
| 06:06.24 | Cody | as long as u have the newest build |
| 06:06.31 | Cody | mjupdate? |
| 06:06.44 | JADEALEXANDER | I dont believe I do.. I have a uscelluar htc |
| 06:06.55 | WoZZeR | MJGDroidUtility |
| 06:07.08 | Cody | alright let me get it off the site |
| 06:07.44 | *** join/#htc-linux bmnbmn (44cc7f6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.204.127.107) |
| 06:07.45 | Cody | where is it at on the site? |
| 06:07.57 | WoZZeR | jonpry: I have sound after running your program |
| 06:08.00 | WoZZeR | https://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads |
| 06:08.04 | jonpry | but not without? |
| 06:08.05 | WoZZeR | no mic though |
| 06:08.11 | WoZZeR | I have not tried it without yet |
| 06:08.15 | JADEALEXANDER | can I find the updated program on here to make my sound work? |
| 06:08.28 | WoZZeR | JADEALEXANDER: use the link above |
| 06:08.56 | JADEALEXANDER | thanx.. you think it would make a difference cause I have uscellar/ |
| 06:09.08 | jonpry | if we make a bot to just post that link every 10 minutes... |
| 06:09.11 | WoZZeR | it shouldn't, but anything is possible |
| 06:09.14 | Cody | oh so ur basically saying just hook my phone to pc then run the droid update thing again |
| 06:09.34 | WoZZeR | run the droid utility on your pc |
| 06:09.38 | WoZZeR | as in, double click it |
| 06:09.47 | WoZZeR | it will crash at the end, but everything works |
| 06:10.14 | jonpry | it is on your sd card somewhere |
| 06:10.38 | WoZZeR | - /sdcard/andboot |
| 06:10.39 | Cody | so i gotta get the rar file with it in, instead of the cab |
| 06:10.47 | WoZZeR | I use the rar, personally |
| 06:10.56 | Cody | wait im not folliwing u all |
| 06:10.59 | WoZZeR | then just open the utility manually |
| 06:11.01 | Cody | i got droid installed |
| 06:11.11 | Cody | i used the cab file |
| 06:11.24 | Cody | so i gotta download the rar file to my pc and open it there |
| 06:11.29 | WoZZeR | I don't like using the cab, it's not reliable |
| 06:11.39 | Cody | how not? |
| 06:11.40 | undarated79 | agreed |
| 06:11.45 | WoZZeR | just unrar the cab to your sd card |
| 06:12.01 | WoZZeR | it crashs, if the screen goes off, it stop the install |
| 06:12.09 | WoZZeR | the only good thing it does it the links |
| 06:12.15 | WoZZeR | but it's faster for me to run it manually |
| 06:12.55 | Cody | well i can see the update tool here on my pc but when i click it, it brings up the properties |
| 06:13.02 | jonpry | wouldn't it be better if everyone just held there thumb on the screen for 30 minutes? |
| 06:13.18 | WoZZeR | Cody: double click MJGDroidUtility |
| 06:13.30 | WoZZeR | jonpry: no, that slows down the install |
| 06:13.45 | Cody | iam |
| 06:13.55 | Cody | like i said its just bringing up the properties |
| 06:14.03 | Cody | i went to sdcard/andboot |
| 06:14.05 | Cody | its in there |
| 06:14.12 | WoZZeR | like when you right click ona file? |
| 06:14.24 | Cody | yea |
| 06:14.30 | Cody | like i double click it |
| 06:14.38 | Cody | and it just brings up a tab |
| 06:14.52 | Cody | which are the properties |
| 06:14.57 | undarated79 | over thinking it bro |
| 06:15.04 | undarated79 | is haret in there |
| 06:15.06 | WoZZeR | jonpry: no sound without program |
| 06:15.07 | Cody | yea |
| 06:15.26 | undarated79 | touch it |
| 06:15.34 | Cody | and i can see the rootfs zip and the z-image |
| 06:15.41 | Cody | are u telling me to touch it on my phone |
| 06:15.42 | WoZZeR | undarated79: I'm talking about updating the zimage/initrd, not running it |
| 06:15.43 | Cody | or on the computer |
| 06:15.47 | WoZZeR | computer |
| 06:15.48 | WoZZeR | PC |
| 06:15.51 | Cody | alright yes |
| 06:15.54 | Cody | thats what im doing |
| 06:15.57 | JADEALEXANDER | wow... 12 minuets |
| 06:16.00 | Cody | i went into my computer |
| 06:16.05 | Cody | mobile device |
| 06:16.08 | Cody | sd card |
| 06:16.11 | Cody | andboot |
| 06:16.31 | Cody | and clicked on mjgdroidutility |
| 06:16.34 | jonpry | ooh |
| 06:17.07 | WoZZeR | Cody: rebooting now, I'll check it in a sec |
| 06:17.09 | WoZZeR | but it used to |
| 06:17.24 | WoZZeR | jonpry:so your program is doing something right. Android just finishs it |
| 06:17.24 | Cody | alright |
| 06:17.40 | WoZZeR | using 8/26 kernel |
| 06:17.46 | jonpry | yeah, i think so. question is what |
| 06:17.46 | Cody | cant i just manually drag and drop the new zimage and rootfs into the folder? |
| 06:17.52 | WoZZeR | yes |
| 06:17.52 | jonpry | you have those i2c dumps handy |
| 06:17.57 | WoZZeR | it's zImage and initrd.gz |
| 06:17.59 | Cody | ill just do that then |
| 06:18.08 | Cody | yea ill just delete the old ones and drop in the new ones |
| 06:18.09 | WoZZeR | Cody: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ |
| 06:18.15 | WoZZeR | yup |
| 06:18.20 | Cody | yea i already got them |
| 06:18.28 | WoZZeR | k |
| 06:18.32 | WoZZeR | just modules and zImage I guess |
| 06:18.34 | WoZZeR | not initrd.gz |
| 06:18.46 | WoZZeR | jonpry: which i2c dumps? |
| 06:18.49 | Cody | well i downloaded that too |
| 06:18.57 | jonpry | i got it. the mmutrace we did yesterday |
| 06:19.05 | Cody | so i shouldnt add the new intrid? |
| 06:19.11 | WoZZeR | it doesn't matter |
| 06:19.15 | WoZZeR | it should be the same file |
| 06:19.21 | Cody | alright |
| 06:19.21 | undarated79 | wow google maps put me at coast of africa |
| 06:19.26 | jonpry | i can teach you how to read it if you like. then we can double/triple check |
| 06:19.31 | Cody | the last package i got was the one on the 27th |
| 06:19.31 | jonpry | http://pastebin.com/0Lrhq0Jc |
| 06:19.31 | WoZZeR | it takes a few minutes to sync gps |
| 06:19.36 | WoZZeR | jonpry: ok |
| 06:20.18 | jonpry | . 0x1?? is the chip. then 0x0?? is the register. then some number of arguments are 0x2?? |
| 06:21.01 | jonpry | cc is microp. 0x30 is adc. 0xb0 is speaker amp |
| 06:21.02 | Cody | do i need to rename the files at all? |
| 06:21.21 | WoZZeR | no |
| 06:21.30 | Cody | alright let me see if it boots |
| 06:21.44 | WoZZeR | jonpry: for the last 3 bits? |
| 06:21.57 | Cody | failed to load zimage |
| 06:22.07 | WoZZeR | is it in the same folder? |
| 06:22.13 | undarated79 | remane zimage to zimage |
| 06:22.18 | Cody | yea just has a weird name |
| 06:22.20 | undarated79 | it has numbers afterit |
| 06:22.22 | WoZZeR | sorry, forgot it has a weird name |
| 06:22.25 | WoZZeR | I build my own |
| 06:22.33 | Cody | do i delete the numbers on all three new files? |
| 06:22.39 | jonpry | nm, http://pastebin.com/RybW3sPy |
| 06:22.41 | WoZZeR | just zImage |
| 06:22.42 | undarated79 | no just zimage |
| 06:23.11 | undarated79 | i heard the echo |
| 06:23.19 | WoZZeR | lol |
| 06:23.51 | undarated79 | im new to all of this dev stuff |
| 06:24.08 | WoZZeR | me too |
| 06:24.09 | undarated79 | just looking to get started and setting up a computer for it |
| 06:24.16 | Cody | lol still says it cant find it |
| 06:24.17 | undarated79 | i doubt it |
| 06:24.26 | WoZZeR | undarated79: had an old HTPC laying around |
| 06:24.30 | Cody | zImage.tar |
| 06:24.30 | WoZZeR | converted it to a nix box |
| 06:24.39 | WoZZeR | .tar? |
| 06:24.43 | WoZZeR | just zImage |
| 06:25.06 | WoZZeR | download the kernel, extract it as it |
| 06:25.12 | Cody | alright |
| 06:25.13 | WoZZeR | get rid of the numbers after zImage |
| 06:25.13 | jonpry | wozzer, did you hit any buttons on the phone when making the mmutrace in question? |
| 06:25.24 | undarated79 | im stuck with this M17x |
| 06:25.28 | jonpry | there is some activity on microp-ksc |
| 06:25.30 | WoZZeR | jonpry: I barely remember what I did 15 minutes ago |
| 06:26.21 | jonpry | maybe we should do it again then :-). don't like chasing ghosts |
| 06:26.36 | WoZZeR | ok, so the order was |
| 06:26.38 | WoZZeR | run mmu trace |
| 06:26.40 | WoZZeR | then wavedev |
| 06:26.45 | WoZZeR | let it sit, don't touch it |
| 06:26.49 | WoZZeR | and give you results? |
| 06:26.53 | [acl] | lol |
| 06:26.58 | jonpry | yes. from clean boot |
| 06:27.19 | Cody | well it named it something like htc-msm-linux |
| 06:27.40 | undarated79 | ok cody... ima help you out |
| 06:27.45 | Cody | lol |
| 06:27.57 | Cody | i swear im good with computers and im not this much fo an idiot |
| 06:28.12 | Cody | just cell phones and this linux stuff is so different when your used to windows |
| 06:28.18 | jonpry | wozzer, if you are still in linux by chance. it would be good to know if the no sound haret behavior is same as nand. like noise on speaker. adsp interrupts, but no sound |
| 06:28.23 | undarated79 | welcome to my world |
| 06:28.34 | WoZZeR | don't know about int's |
| 06:28.41 | WoZZeR | but has static |
| 06:28.46 | WoZZeR | wait |
| 06:28.47 | WoZZeR | no |
| 06:28.50 | WoZZeR | grr |
| 06:28.52 | WoZZeR | don't remember |
| 06:28.55 | undarated79 | ok. take anboot folder and place in root of sd |
| 06:28.56 | WoZZeR | I'll test after mmu |
| 06:29.04 | Cody | it is |
| 06:29.11 | Cody | im not gonna sue the rar thing |
| 06:29.11 | undarated79 | open it up |
| 06:29.26 | Cody | i already have the cab installed and have android stuff setup on my phone |
| 06:29.39 | undarated79 | good luck then bro |
| 06:29.50 | Cody | so ur saying i gotta get rid of it all then? |
| 06:29.53 | WoZZeR | jonpry: http://pastebin.com/tCBGY2dE |
| 06:29.53 | undarated79 | the cab thing always gives my phone amnesia |
| 06:30.01 | Cody | alright fine |
| 06:30.05 | Cody | all my apps and stuff gone lol |
| 06:30.10 | Cody | give me a min to clean up things |
| 06:30.11 | undarated79 | no dude |
| 06:30.14 | WoZZeR | Cody: the link will still work |
| 06:30.16 | WoZZeR | just overwrite |
| 06:30.17 | undarated79 | keep the app folder |
| 06:30.27 | Cody | just hold on let me get this uninstalled |
| 06:30.46 | WoZZeR | ... |
| 06:30.48 | Cody | alright |
| 06:30.55 | Cody | now what do i need to take off the sd card? |
| 06:30.56 | undarated79 | get the rar file |
| 06:31.03 | WoZZeR | keep it in your phone |
| 06:31.06 | undarated79 | all of your android stuff |
| 06:31.24 | undarated79 | gonna walk you thru it from nothing |
| 06:31.30 | Cody | downloading the rar file now |
| 06:31.37 | undarated79 | ok |
| 06:31.40 | Cody | guess ill go ahead and delete the andboot folder |
| 06:31.42 | Cody | and the other ones |
| 06:31.51 | jonpry | wozzer, your sure that it was done running? |
| 06:31.58 | undarated79 | why when you already....nm |
| 06:32.04 | WoZZeR | I let it sit for like 10 secs after |
| 06:32.07 | jonpry | ok |
| 06:32.10 | Cody | alright fine |
| 06:32.18 | WoZZeR | jonpry: how do I add a msg box saying done? |
| 06:32.19 | Cody | got the stuff still on my phone |
| 06:32.20 | jonpry | the wirq was long enough? |
| 06:32.25 | Cody | rar is almost done dling |
| 06:32.26 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 06:32.34 | WoZZeR | it was silent for about 5 seconds |
| 06:32.42 | jonpry | ok, perfect |
| 06:32.52 | undarated79 | ok. do you have the phone usb'ed |
| 06:33.01 | Cody | yes |
| 06:33.15 | WoZZeR | jonpry: clean booting into android now |
| 06:33.18 | undarated79 | look in sd card and find the andboot folder |
| 06:33.26 | Cody | alright i got it |
| 06:33.38 | undarated79 | you see android apps |
| 06:33.47 | Cody | no |
| 06:33.51 | undarated79 | wow |
| 06:33.55 | undarated79 | what do you see |
| 06:34.00 | Cody | already uninstalled droid from my phone |
| 06:34.06 | undarated79 | ok |
| 06:34.09 | Cody | just some files such as zimage |
| 06:34.15 | Cody | data |
| 06:34.16 | undarated79 | kill the andboot folder to then |
| 06:34.22 | undarated79 | meh kill them all |
| 06:34.33 | Cody | :D |
| 06:34.38 | Cody | fresh install!! |
| 06:34.43 | undarated79 | yep |
| 06:34.46 | undarated79 | ok |
| 06:35.01 | undarated79 | unzip the rar you just dl'd |
| 06:35.17 | Cody | quick question |
| 06:35.22 | undarated79 | go ahead |
| 06:35.29 | Cody | all of the fsck files on my sd card |
| 06:35.34 | undarated79 | kill them too |
| 06:35.35 | Cody | do i need them or can i delete them? |
| 06:35.38 | WoZZeR | jonpry: static on clean boot |
| 06:36.03 | WoZZeR | downloading term now |
| 06:36.16 | Cody | alright i deleted them |
| 06:36.26 | undarated79 | rar file unzipped |
| 06:36.40 | Cody | yup |
| 06:36.49 | undarated79 | andboot to sd |
| 06:37.57 | undarated79 | the whole folder |
| 06:38.01 | Cody | give me a min |
| 06:38.20 | WoZZeR | jonpry: static and asdp ints |
| 06:38.22 | Cody | alright its on the sdcard |
| 06:38.34 | undarated79 | open the folder on sd |
| 06:39.02 | Cody | from my pc? |
| 06:39.16 | undarated79 | as long as your still usb'd |
| 06:39.27 | undarated79 | cause you aren't done |
| 06:39.28 | Cody | alright |
| 06:39.34 | undarated79 | which carried |
| 06:39.38 | Cody | give me a min its still copying to phone |
| 06:39.38 | undarated79 | *carrier |
| 06:39.50 | Cody | sprint tp2 on boost mobile |
| 06:39.56 | undarated79 | ok |
| 06:40.14 | undarated79 | when the folder finished copying, open it up from pc |
| 06:40.33 | Cody | i dont have that quad core processor like you all do these days |
| 06:40.40 | Cody | still using the pc i built a few years ago |
| 06:40.47 | undarated79 | i don't have a quad |
| 06:40.53 | Cody | AMD 4200+ lol |
| 06:41.03 | WoZZeR | I do, but that doesn't change file moving |
| 06:41.10 | undarated79 | sure don't |
| 06:41.25 | Cody | alright folder is open |
| 06:41.26 | undarated79 | this is a gaming rig |
| 06:41.32 | undarated79 | and i don't play games on it! |
| 06:41.34 | Cody | mine used to be |
| 06:41.35 | WoZZeR | jonpry: you get my messages? |
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| 06:41.46 | undarated79 | is it done yet |
| 06:41.48 | jonpry | wozzer, yes. working on new microp |
| 06:41.50 | Cody | yea |
| 06:41.58 | WoZZeR | k, you just been quiet... too quiet |
| 06:41.58 | undarated79 | open the folder |
| 06:42.03 | Refermattes | its all here http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads really self explanatory, idiot proof |
| 06:42.05 | Cody | its copied and im in folder |
| 06:42.15 | [acl] | fuck this |
| 06:42.22 | [acl] | i give up for tonight.. |
| 06:42.28 | WoZZeR | [acl]: sorry dood |
| 06:42.31 | Refermattes | wipe the sd card and start all over |
| 06:42.33 | Cody | yea i know refeer but i was having some problems updating |
| 06:42.39 | undarated79 | now open your startup.txt |
| 06:42.42 | [acl] | its aite.. my mistake for forcing em and forgetting about it |
| 06:42.51 | WoZZeR | so keep the irq change? |
| 06:42.53 | WoZZeR | or revert it |
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| 06:43.06 | [acl] | no dont change ur irq |
| 06:43.11 | WoZZeR | IRQF_TRIGGER_LOW, |
| 06:43.13 | WoZZeR | that |
| 06:43.17 | [acl] | no change it back |
| 06:43.20 | WoZZeR | k |
| 06:43.35 | Cody | see i cant open files from my pc |
| 06:43.37 | [acl] | tried edge no cigar |
| 06:43.42 | Cody | there becoming read only |
| 06:43.45 | undarated79 | why not |
| 06:43.48 | undarated79 | whats it say |
| 06:43.57 | Cody | brings up the properties |
| 06:44.03 | undarated79 | damn ok |
| 06:44.09 | undarated79 | can you edit from phone |
| 06:44.19 | Cody | so i gotta pull the file off to my desktop, edit it and then recopy to sd card |
| 06:44.20 | WoZZeR | Cody: use the left button, not the right |
| 06:44.32 | Cody | iam using the damn left button |
| 06:44.36 | WoZZeR | Cody: ohhh, you have alt pressed |
| 06:44.38 | undarated79 | lol |
| 06:44.38 | Cody | i double click it |
| 06:44.45 | Cody | and its bringing up the properties |
| 06:44.50 | Cody | im not an idiot lol |
| 06:44.55 | WoZZeR | 2:44a   (WoZZeR) Cody: ohhh, you have alt pressed |
| 06:45.02 | WoZZeR | that's the only reason properties would come up |
| 06:45.07 | undarated79 | he should be able to edit from phone atleast i thought so |
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| 06:45.23 | Cody | hold on now shits freezing -.- |
| 06:45.27 | whosjose | hey |
| 06:45.31 | WoZZeR | hi |
| 06:45.38 | undarated79 | just unplug it |
| 06:45.44 | Cody | alright |
| 06:45.56 | undarated79 | use file explorer on phone and get to folder |
| 06:45.56 | WoZZeR | Cody: just wrap up the phone and return it, along with your PC |
| 06:46.06 | undarated79 | LOL wozzer |
| 06:46.12 | Cody | alright |
| 06:46.16 | *** join/#htc-linux refermattes (4c5a7ea1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.90.126.161) |
| 06:46.17 | undarated79 | hey he can buy mine |
| 06:46.18 | Cody | i opened it from my phone |
| 06:46.19 | WoZZeR | 30 minutes for a 2 second process |
| 06:46.25 | undarated79 | i know right |
| 06:46.37 | Cody | what do i need to edit in the start up text |
| 06:46.39 | undarated79 | is startup.txt open |
| 06:46.48 | whosjose | question, i'm running the hd2 the shubcraft 1.5 and i wanted to know if the build supports tethering? |
| 06:46.49 | Cody | yea |
| 06:47.07 | WoZZeR | whosjose: don't know who runs a HD2 that is awake right now |
| 06:47.21 | undarated79 | you see where it says physkeyboard? |
| 06:47.26 | whosjose | ah |
| 06:47.27 | refermattes | only thing you should replace is old modules and zimage i am using modules-2.6.27.46-01152-g0b91ba4.tar.gz and zImage_20100828_194124 , from http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ just take the numbers off from zimage |
| 06:47.30 | jonpry | new microp: http://pastebin.com/T2HSAG63 still need audio.c |
| 06:47.38 | whosjose | ah ok |
| 06:47.38 | Cody | yea it son tilt 2 |
| 06:47.46 | WoZZeR | jonpry: you mean I have to wait for a new one? |
| 06:47.53 | WoZZeR | sooo much clutter here |
| 06:48.04 | undarated79 | change to rhod400 |
| 06:48.08 | undarated79 | just like that |
| 06:48.12 | whosjose | now i wonder... |
| 06:48.14 | WoZZeR | Cody: take the help to htc-linux-chat |
| 06:48.21 | WoZZeR | whosjose: someone there may know as well |
| 06:48.26 | WoZZeR | in #htc-linux-chat |
| 06:48.33 | Cody | done |
| 06:48.39 | undarated79 | lol wozzer, im sorry bro |
| 06:48.43 | WoZZeR | no prob |
| 06:48.57 | undarated79 | and change the force cdma to 1 instead of zero |
| 06:49.00 | whosjose | well ill go ask |
| 06:49.18 | Cody | done |
| 06:49.18 | whosjose | is there any known builds that support tethering? |
| 06:49.21 | jonpry | audio.c http://pastebin.com/Qfbt0ubJ |
| 06:49.28 | whosjose | you wouldn't know huh:( |
| 06:49.41 | undarated79 | try to boot up haret |
| 06:50.04 | Cody | its booting |
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| 06:50.16 | whosjose | well i've followed instructions pretty well, looked around and all seem the same. |
| 06:50.17 | undarated79 | its supposed to |
| 06:50.21 | WoZZeR | Cody: #htc-linux-chat |
| 06:50.41 | Cody | how do i join? |
| 06:50.46 | WoZZeR | double click taht |
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| 06:50.50 | whosjose | not much going on there wozzer |
| 06:50.53 | WoZZeR | or /join #htc-linux-chat |
| 06:50.57 | whosjose | '/join #htc-linux-chat |
| 06:51.02 | undarated79 | hey wozzer. Im here looking for help to get started dev myself |
| 06:51.13 | whosjose | lol |
| 06:51.14 | WoZZeR | we're trying to do dev work. undarated79: I know |
| 06:51.22 | refermattes | this channel is for development, questions regarding tp2 builds shud refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997 or go to #htc-linux-chat |
| 06:51.28 | WoZZeR | well, jonpry is doing dev work, I'm copy/pasting |
| 06:51.35 | undarated79 | lol |
| 06:51.44 | undarated79 | I got ubuntu installed |
| 06:51.48 | undarated79 | what next |
| 06:51.55 | undarated79 | lol |
| 06:52.02 | WoZZeR | undarated79: http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Get_Involved |
| 06:52.04 | Cody | i joined |
| 06:52.06 | WoZZeR | that's a good guide to start on |
| 06:52.13 | WoZZeR | Cody: ok, ask there |
| 06:52.13 | undarated79 | good deal |
| 06:52.15 | undarated79 | thanks bro |
| 06:52.22 | WoZZeR | np |
| 06:52.23 | Cody | thanks |
| 06:52.51 | Cody | and appreciate the work everyone |
| 06:52.53 | undarated79 | did it work |
| 06:53.05 | Cody | yea its loading into android now |
| 06:53.16 | Cody | just gotta figure out how to update now |
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| 06:53.41 | WoZZeR | jonpry: you made my kernel panic! |
| 06:53.53 | undarated79 | ok, good |
| 06:53.57 | whosjose | thanks for that url |
| 06:54.01 | whosjose | i was looking for something like that |
| 06:54.19 | undarated79 | ok fellas, it's 3 here and 7 comes too early |
| 06:54.19 | Phh_ | People dont understand, coming here and asking hundreds of questions, slows down the development, we could have fixed a whole lot more, without those annoyances |
| 06:54.51 | jonpry | i did? |
| 06:54.54 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 06:55.42 | [acl] | shit the fake phh again? |
| 06:55.49 | whosjose | lol |
| 06:55.56 | WoZZeR | jonpry: you know you have aud_probe twice |
| 06:56.13 | WoZZeR | nevermind |
| 06:56.16 | WoZZeR | read wrong |
| 06:56.21 | WoZZeR | but yeah, it's panicing |
| 06:56.26 | Cody | unrated |
| 06:57.00 | undarated79 | yeah |
| 06:57.04 | jonpry | that weird. it shouldn't have built :-) |
| 06:57.13 | whosjose | Package git is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 06:57.13 | Cody | it got to home screen and then rebooted |
| 06:57.15 | whosjose | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 06:57.17 | whosjose | is only available from another source |
| 06:57.17 | WoZZeR | wait, maybe it didn't |
| 06:57.19 | whosjose | E: Package git has no installation candidate |
| 06:57.30 | WoZZeR | arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcrhodium-audio.c:544: error: implicit declaration of function 'init_mic_post_adc' |
| 06:57.32 | WoZZeR | yeah... |
| 06:57.33 | WoZZeR | lol |
| 06:57.40 | WoZZeR | it flashed and started the zImage |
| 06:58.08 | WoZZeR | whosjose: E:? you need a linux box |
| 06:58.28 | whosjose | I'm on ubuntu |
| 06:58.41 | WoZZeR | what step are you looking at |
| 06:58.48 | jonpry | i have found some problems with power amp initialization |
| 06:59.05 | jonpry | i'm going to do something cheap, and then we can go back to that nice code phh made |
| 06:59.14 | WoZZeR | ok |
| 06:59.27 | whosjose | well i'm at the part where it says |
| 06:59.37 | whosjose | If you are running a Debian/Ubuntu based distribution, you can simply run the following command in a Terminal to download and install all the necessary prerequisites: sudo apt-get install git-core git jfsutils xfsprogs quota isdnutils-base nfs-common oprofile Not all of these are necessary, but they shouldn't hurt. |
| 06:59.39 | WoZZeR | btw, just realized that e: sound like ecoli when you are tired |
| 06:59.45 | whosjose | lol |
| 06:59.46 | jonpry | wozzer, if the zimage didn't work. that is probably an old image. and it is broke. |
| 06:59.48 | [acl] | WoZZeR: eventually i'll need some dmesg of re-enabling usb.. we never bothered to even look what the issue was.. ill take a break from 3d the nest few days |
| 07:00.05 | WoZZeR | [acl]: ok, sounds good |
| 07:00.14 | [acl] | plus my epic arrives on tues |
| 07:00.24 | WoZZeR | nice |
| 07:00.25 | [acl] | so it will be nand to the bone |
| 07:00.48 | WoZZeR | whosjose: did you type something wrong? |
| 07:00.53 | whosjose | nah |
| 07:00.55 | whosjose | on point |
| 07:01.05 | WoZZeR | did you do git core instead of git-core? |
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| 07:01.18 | whosjose | no |
| 07:02.12 | WoZZeR | don't know then, git-core should be correct |
| 07:02.25 | WoZZeR | git-core works |
| 07:02.33 | whosjose | got it |
| 07:02.34 | WoZZeR | do you have 'git' alone anywhere there? |
| 07:02.59 | whosjose | yea that's what it was |
| 07:03.57 | WoZZeR | [acl]: are you putting PM anywhere on the list of things to finish? |
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| 07:04.15 | WoZZeR | we will also need to learn how to turn the screen off |
| 07:04.47 | [acl] | WoZZeR: screen off? right now it just chills? |
| 07:04.51 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 07:04.53 | WoZZeR | backlight is on |
| 07:04.58 | WoZZeR | no iamge, but a black glow |
| 07:05.00 | WoZZeR | image* |
| 07:05.09 | whosjose | another question, how would i be able to play around with a build? |
| 07:05.09 | jonpry | http://pastebin.com/yDJJxTYP |
| 07:05.25 | whosjose | is there a clean one i can play with? |
| 07:05.41 | WoZZeR | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/ |
| 07:05.44 | WoZZeR | won't get any cleaner |
| 07:05.51 | [acl] | WoZZeR: doesnt haret version have the same screen issue? |
| 07:06.03 | WoZZeR | [acl]: not when auto-backlight is run |
| 07:06.05 | WoZZeR | or something |
| 07:06.10 | WoZZeR | have not fully tested it |
| 07:06.12 | jonpry | wozzer, i have high hopes :-). |
| 07:06.14 | WoZZeR | but phh is aware of it |
| 07:06.22 | [acl] | WoZZeR: once i nand ill see what u mean |
| 07:06.37 | WoZZeR | 'once you nand' sounds dirty |
| 07:06.50 | [acl] | filthy |
| 07:07.02 | WoZZeR | I flipped her over and gave her a nand |
| 07:07.03 | whosjose | ty wozzer |
| 07:07.13 | WoZZeR | np |
| 07:07.13 | jonpry | [acl]. what is this sdac clock? |
| 07:07.39 | whosjose | uh huh is there a more in depth tutorial on how to play? |
| 07:08.16 | WoZZeR | whosjose: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page |
| 07:08.19 | whosjose | see i wanna try it on the hd2 leo and not sure where to start |
| 07:08.22 | whosjose | ty |
| 07:08.27 | [acl] | jonpry: |
| 07:08.37 | WoZZeR | [acl]: I agree |
| 07:09.08 | [acl] | jonpry: oops.. #define SDAC_CLK18 /* Stereo DAC clock */ |
| 07:09.25 | WoZZeR | jonpry: kernel panic again |
| 07:09.27 | jonpry | is that on in wince/linnux? |
| 07:09.37 | [acl] | linux |
| 07:09.37 | jonpry | your kernel before my patch panicked |
| 07:09.48 | jonpry | nand and haret? |
| 07:09.55 | WoZZeR | haven't tried haret |
| 07:10.03 | WoZZeR | I'd have to flash windows again |
| 07:10.09 | jonpry | that was for acl |
| 07:10.15 | WoZZeR | oh, lol |
| 07:10.26 | jonpry | wozzer, your kernel was busted before this. |
| 07:10.32 | [acl] | jonpry: huh ? im lost.. |
| 07:10.58 | jonpry | you've been patching clocks on nand branch. wondering if it was enabled before you got to it |
| 07:12.25 | [acl] | jonpry: i dont think it was .. i can check tho |
| 07:12.27 | WoZZeR | ohhh |
| 07:12.31 | WoZZeR | a kovsky thing maybe |
| 07:12.34 | WoZZeR | that alex had me change |
| 07:14.18 | WoZZeR | wtf else did he have me change |
| 07:14.19 | jonpry | [acl] i think sdac might be dangerous. if wince doesn't use it, then there is no external dac. turning that on might turn off the internal dac |
| 07:14.30 | jonpry | git status |
| 07:14.33 | [acl] | jonpry: i never saw a call for sdac.. so yeah might be useless |
| 07:14.58 | whosjose | where can i find the latest kernal zimage? |
| 07:15.01 | [acl] | adsp and sdac we can leave alone for now |
| 07:15.21 | jonpry | read the logs |
| 07:16.14 | WoZZeR | I am |
| 07:16.18 | WoZZeR | don't see anything |
| 07:17.28 | jonpry | argh. why don't you commit more so you can revert. i say in a blast of hypocrisy |
| 07:17.39 | [acl] | lol |
| 07:17.44 | WoZZeR | [acl]: told me no |
| 07:17.51 | [acl] | WoZZeR: didnt you have a solid clock ? |
| 07:17.56 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 07:18.02 | [acl] | and ? |
| 07:18.02 | WoZZeR | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `halibut_init': |
| 07:18.05 | WoZZeR | -/home/wozzer/kernel/linux-msm-rhod-nand/arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htckovsky.c:326: undefined reference to `fix_mddi_clk_black' |
| 07:18.07 | WoZZeR | getting that now |
| 07:18.13 | [acl] | wtf |
| 07:18.14 | WoZZeR | I'll commit once it boots again |
| 07:18.26 | [acl] | why dont u just revert to the working one? |
| 07:18.26 | jonpry | wozzer, you can commit without pushing you know |
| 07:18.28 | WoZZeR | using my clocks |
| 07:18.29 | jonpry | or even branch. |
| 07:18.38 | WoZZeR | [acl]: I'm using the backup I made |
| 07:18.57 | [acl] | i was under the impression of what we had online was stable |
| 07:19.12 | [acl] | clocks alex gave u didnt fix or break anything so not worth a commit |
| 07:19.29 | WoZZeR | [acl]: I'm using my old file |
| 07:19.34 | [acl] | nice |
| 07:21.49 | WoZZeR | wtf, why am I getting errors now |
| 07:21.54 | WoZZeR | when I changed everything back |
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| 07:23.46 | WoZZeR | ok... wtf |
| 07:23.51 | WoZZeR | it built now |
| 07:24.00 | WoZZeR | saving the exact same file I had |
| 07:24.06 | WoZZeR | I pressed enter, backspace, save |
| 07:24.34 | jonpry | dude |
| 07:24.40 | jonpry | this does not sound terribly promising |
| 07:25.35 | WoZZeR | no panic |
| 07:25.54 | WoZZeR | wtf.... that's all I ahve to say... WTF! |
| 07:26.10 | jonpry | just remember: don't panic |
| 07:27.55 | whosjose | wozzer |
| 07:28.01 | WoZZeR | what |
| 07:29.41 | whosjose | i have a problem with the tethering on my phone and a few other applications not running for some odd reason, it always gives me errors on the process. now i wanted to change to the Chucky Rom as i'm using the default. Now would i need a win pc to install the rom or can i simply launch from the SD itself? |
| 07:29.52 | WoZZeR | jonpry: no sound |
| 07:29.59 | whosjose | or is it more of a android app where i can download it from the market. |
| 07:30.00 | jonpry | after echo? |
| 07:30.04 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 07:30.07 | WoZZeR | whosjose: no idea |
| 07:30.16 | whosjose | yala |
| 07:30.23 | WoZZeR | su |
| 07:30.28 | WoZZeR | mknod /dev/chardev c 254 0 |
| 07:30.36 | WoZZeR | echo 1 > /dev/chardev |
| 07:30.55 | jonpry | dmesg? |
| 07:32.33 | WoZZeR | http://pastebin.com/iEhz0sxR |
| 07:35.09 | jonpry | one would have to wonder why you get all dma missed. dma hit would be a more appropriate dmesg on your think |
| 07:41.04 | jonpry | bleh, must sleep |
| 07:41.08 | WoZZeR | ok |
| 07:41.19 | [acl] | same here. . later fellas |
| 07:41.22 | WoZZeR | later |
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| 08:30.08 | zego | CM6.0.0-RC3 based ROM for HD2: http://pastebin.com/0xSN3rbH (for those who care) |
| 08:30.48 | DuperMan | oO :D |
| 08:31.49 | FD-hd2 | hey zego ty |
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| 08:45.46 | camro | phh: hi, i have a question ...in init script, there is also a function to load a config file from /sdcard/conf/froyo.user.conf |
| 08:45.49 | camro | like: |
| 08:45.51 | camro | if [ -f "$card/conf/$RCCONFIG.user.conf" ]; then |
| 08:45.51 | camro | <------>/bin/userinit.sh -c "$card/conf/$RCCONFIG.user.conf" |
| 08:45.51 | camro | else |
| 08:45.51 | camro | <------>echo "No user config files ($RCCONFIG) found on sdcard" |
| 08:45.51 | camro | fi |
| 08:47.04 | camro | phh: would it be possible also to add an option to execute a script file from "/sdcard/conf/froyo.user.init" ? |
| 08:47.23 | camro | ex: if user wants to execute a mount or whatever ... |
| 08:55.04 | camro | ups - forget it ...it is possible to do it also there ... |
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| 09:51.07 | spanner3003 | hi how do i use drivers from a linux kernel version 2.6.21 in a kernel version 2.6.35? |
| 09:54.25 | phh | [06:53:22] <[acl]> wtf.. was that a fake phh? <--- just check the time ? :p you know my hours :p |
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| 10:04.48 | dan1j3l | hello |
| 10:05.04 | Cotulla | hey |
| 10:05.24 | dan1j3l | what's up ? |
| 10:05.34 | Cotulla | monday morning :) |
| 10:05.56 | dan1j3l | yeah, i hate mondays... |
| 10:06.01 | Cotulla | how are u? |
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| 10:06.27 | dan1j3l | except i need to work, i'm just fine... |
| 10:06.32 | dan1j3l | :) |
| 10:06.32 | Cotulla | :) |
| 10:07.12 | dan1j3l | only 4 hrs left, that's only bright side |
| 10:07.15 | dan1j3l | :) |
| 10:07.37 | Cotulla | ow 4 |
| 10:07.40 | dan1j3l | how are u ? |
| 10:07.56 | Cotulla | nice but wannna sleep |
| 10:08.01 | Cotulla | and rather cold |
| 10:08.27 | dan1j3l | heh, i want to sleep too :D |
| 10:09.40 | dan1j3l | ok, time to format disk on my Dell :D |
| 10:10.09 | spanner3003 | hi how do i use drivers from a linux kernel version 2.6.21 in a kernel version 2.6.35? |
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| 10:10.16 | Cotulla | hello |
| 10:10.20 | Cotulla | forgot about it :) |
| 10:10.45 | Cotulla | really... even from 2.6.29 to 2.6.32 already big problem |
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| 10:11.04 | xUmaRix | phh 3.5 audio ject detection 4 blac is 002.891 GPIOS out2: out2-14(78)=1 |
| 10:11.08 | phh | [02:15:11] <xUmaRix> phh did u c this http://pastebin.com/ZkZqPMxE <-- give it to alex[sp3dev] ? I don't really feel like doing that those days |
| 10:11.09 | phh | . |
| 10:11.28 | xUmaRix | lol |
| 10:11.41 | xUmaRix | but the gpio is diff 4 blac lol |
| 10:12.00 | xUmaRix | for me it is 78th |
| 10:12.17 | xUmaRix | for rhod it is 112nd |
| 10:12.21 | phh | [02:41:12] <jonpry> phh: can you get anything to come out of mplayer? in debian, aplay works, but i get nothing from mplayer <-- I have yet to put playwav2 on the phone before actually trying |
| 10:13.54 | spanner3003 | Cotulla, it's for the htc universal i want to get android working better on it as the guy who was working on it got his laptop stolen |
| 10:14.08 | Cotulla | oh :( |
| 10:14.25 | Cotulla | spanner3003, it really maybe hard... be warned |
| 10:14.31 | spanner3003 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658664&page=17 |
| 10:14.45 | Cotulla | how android working there? |
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| 10:15.38 | Cotulla | shit... |
| 10:15.45 | spanner3003 | android works and boots on the phone but it is a bit slow |
| 10:16.04 | Cotulla | yeah... android need better hw |
| 10:16.17 | Cotulla | and more memory I guess |
| 10:18.21 | spanner3003 | lol i know but he had a new build be his laptop was stolen that was faster and more sexy he said |
| 10:18.33 | Cotulla | :( |
| 10:19.22 | spanner3003 | look http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658664&page=17 |
| 10:19.48 | Cotulla | I still have uni, used as stereo-vga-alarm-clock :P |
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| 10:20.02 | Cotulla | it has almost broken antenna... :( |
| 10:20.11 | spanner3003 | he used bits of code from myn warm donut build |
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| 10:24.30 | spanner3003 | this is one of myn's warm donut build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980 |
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| 10:26.23 | phh | [04:46:22] <xUmaRix> blac100 gpio 78th for 3.5mm jack detection <-- if it's output, it's not detection, it's activation |
| 10:28.13 | spanner3003 | Cotulla, do you know if there is detailed documentation on linux 2.6.35 and how to write drivers for it? |
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| 10:30.47 | phh | [05:03:12] <jonpry> phh: can you enable SYSV_IPC in defconfig. causes problems when it is not there and we don't really care about the supposed security flaws <-- (which security flaws?) pushed |
| 10:31.16 | phh | <[acl]> jonpry: somewhere along the way ... this happened [ 451.849029] hw3d: hw3d_irq_handler: IRQ HANDLER IS WORKING !!!!! <-- wtf ? |
| 10:31.54 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: phhusson htc-msm-2.6.27 * rv2.6.27-1163-g9aaa03a /arch/arm/configs/htc_msm_android_defconfig: <jonpry> Add SysV IPC |
| 10:32.45 | phh | [06:24:19] <[acl]> anyone have a copy of the modded gralloc the blac people use? <-- update your rootfs ? :D |
| 10:32.55 | phh | it will automatically use their gralloc on our devices too |
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| 10:33.45 | Cotulla | spanner3003, there almost no documentation.... only "Documentation" folder |
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| 10:34.25 | phh | [06:28:45] <[acl]> jonpry: according to my dmesg there were interrupts.. boot anim was runing and then BOOM arm9 crash so im baffled <-- if you got bootanim, 3D DEFINITELY worked ! |
| 10:34.36 | phh | (well with force hw3d on) |
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| 10:50.32 | phh | (and now I hope acl still reads logs.) |
| 10:50.42 | phh | xUmaRix: you know alex[sp3dev] is also on blac right ? :p |
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| 11:17.28 | GRAD-SEARCH | schoenen guten tag |
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| 11:18.33 | GRAD-SEARCH | *tytn |
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| 11:22.37 | HardDisk_WP | oi |
| 11:22.42 | HardDisk_WP | dieser chan is eigl englisch^^ |
| 11:23.10 | GRAD-SEARCH | ohh k :D |
| 11:23.13 | GRAD-SEARCH | danke |
| 11:23.27 | HardDisk_WP | ansonsten, wenns dir ums tytn geht, http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hermes_Linux |
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| 11:23.52 | GRAD-SEARCH | sehr schoen ich danke dir |
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| 11:24.06 | HardDisk_WP | cya |
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| 13:18.15 | MaricSmith | Morning er'body |
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| 13:48.33 | crack | @gauner1986 you there this is the paste bin using ppp http://pastebin.com/N3ec1w2N |
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| 13:49.55 | crack | there is some error when I change from 2g into 3g there is no data connection but icon still there but just gray need to turn on airplane mode and turn off it again and ppp working again |
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| 13:51.05 | crack | and there is a lot of error like D/RILJ ( 255): [0093]< QUERY_NETWORK_SELECTION_MODE error: com.android.internal.telephony.CommandException: OP_NOT_ALLOWED_BEFORE_REG_NW |
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| 13:53.23 | crack | and also D/RILJ ( 255): [0031]< SIM_IO error: com.android.internal.telephony.CommandException: GENERIC_FAILURE ( not sure it is important or not ) |
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| 13:54.20 | crack | ok off trying different setting |
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| 14:05.38 | Cass | bout time :) |
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| 14:09.01 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 14:09.05 | gauner1986 | definetly |
| 14:09.29 | Cass | hows it going |
| 14:09.57 | gauner1986 | having some headache.. and for you? ^^ |
| 14:10.12 | Cass | fine .. no headache :) |
| 14:11.24 | gauner1986 | tomorrow university starts again :( |
| 14:11.32 | Cass | no luck |
| 14:11.49 | Cass | well tbh id prefer to be there than work |
| 14:12.11 | gauner1986 | and i'd prefer working |
| 14:12.16 | gauner1986 | and earning money |
| 14:12.17 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 14:12.34 | Cass | thats the only ipside to it |
| 14:12.37 | Cass | upside |
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| 14:28.05 | willowave | I'm a noob to IRC, will I get banned from the room for lurking for a few hours? |
| 14:28.15 | F-D | nope |
| 14:28.19 | F-D | lurk forever ;) |
| 14:28.21 | willowave | k, ty |
| 14:29.01 | willowave | I got banned from the beginner room so I thought I better ask lol |
| 14:29.20 | F-D | weird.. chat should be in -chat btw ;) |
| 14:29.48 | willowave | which sucks cuz you can learn alot from lurking |
| 14:29.59 | F-D | lurk here chat there |
| 14:30.12 | Cass | question why you got banned ? |
| 14:30.28 | willowave | cuz I left the room connected for too long apparently |
| 14:30.53 | Cass | you may have been spamming with join / disconnetcs |
| 14:31.01 | willowave | banned for 3 days lol |
| 14:31.17 | Ondalf | good example from join/part is currently csy -.- |
| 14:31.19 | willowave | oooh. never thought of that. any way to keep that from happening? |
| 14:31.34 | Cass | yeah switch off auto-reconnect |
| 14:31.41 | willowave | k ty : ) |
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| 14:34.17 | willowave | f-d can you explain what you meant by the -chat thing? This is only my second time in IRC lol |
| 14:34.31 | Cass | #htc-linux-chat |
| 14:34.42 | Cass | thought thats what you meant by beginner channel |
| 14:34.51 | Cass | this channel is for devs |
| 14:34.59 | Cass | the other you cab talk freely in |
| 14:35.01 | Cass | can* |
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| 14:35.16 | willowave | which is ridiculus cuz I've worked on computers for years. |
| 14:35.36 | F-D | lol... irc is a niche thing really |
| 14:35.40 | willowave | ohhhh I see. well thank you all for being tolerant of my ignorance :) |
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| 14:37.18 | willowave | I'm a computer tech, I should have used it long ago. I just got my new handy dandy HTC Incredible, so I'm trying to find out more about root n stuff like that. I will move over to general chat tho. thanks again ;) |
| 14:37.25 | gauner1986 | hey letama, shu8i :) |
| 14:37.38 | LeTama | hello guys, hello gauner1986 |
| 14:38.07 | Cass | hi |
| 14:38.29 | gauner1986 | no news for leo dev these days :( |
| 14:39.36 | LeTama | gauner1986: yes, not much... |
| 14:40.34 | gauner1986 | hm.. lsensor still missing.. as well as compass calibration.. what else? wifi tethering still not fully working. |
| 14:40.43 | gauner1986 | nand of course |
| 14:40.58 | Cass | compas calibration? thought someone made a code change for that |
| 14:41.00 | LeTama | gauner1986: and ppp is still not perfect for me |
| 14:41.10 | gauner1986 | cass: rly? what change? |
| 14:41.25 | Cass | im sure i read someone made an offset in code to move 80 degrees |
| 14:41.27 | gauner1986 | letama: what's the problem? |
| 14:41.40 | gauner1986 | cass: mhhh |
| 14:41.53 | Cass | gauner1986, may not have been commited |
| 14:42.00 | LeTama | gauner1986: still loosing connection from time to time, pppd dies |
| 14:42.03 | Cass | oneof these rogue kernels going around :) |
| 14:42.07 | gauner1986 | that's just a workaround i guess |
| 14:42.10 | Cass | yeah |
| 14:42.35 | gauner1986 | i hate kernels which don't come with source :) |
| 14:42.47 | Cass | i love all kernels that work :) |
| 14:42.48 | gauner1986 | letama: no problem at all here..mhm |
| 14:43.08 | LeTama | gauner1986: you're lucky :) |
| 14:43.24 | LeTama | gauner1986: I read that many have the same issue |
| 14:43.54 | LeTama | gauner1986: it seems to happen if location changes or 3G/2G switches |
| 14:44.17 | Cass | yeah read that 2g/3g switch issue |
| 14:44.25 | Cass | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.33 | gauner1986 | also havent seen it yet |
| 14:44.48 | LeTama | gauner1986: I still have to track it down better |
| 14:44.48 | gauner1986 | but i got some sleep of death's from time to time |
| 14:45.01 | phh | jonpry: what's your paypal account ? someone wants to donate you but can't find your address |
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| 14:47.35 | gauner1986 | and i still couldnt get wifi tether to work with sense |
| 14:47.50 | LeTama | gauner1986: hum... |
| 14:47.51 | gauner1986 | maybe i should really shit on sense |
| 14:48.10 | matth | any ideads how to access the savemem2sd feature in HBOOT ? |
| 14:48.26 | LeTama | gauner1986: maybe. I did on my side, I'm trying to do a semi-clean xdandroid build for leo |
| 14:48.27 | matth | is that an hidden command from fastboot |
| 14:49.07 | gauner1986 | letama: i'll go for the cyanogen stuff probably.. it also has a nice interface.. but fm radio doesnt work there <.< |
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| 14:50.58 | LeTama | gauner1986: does cyanogen have android source tree like xdandroid ? |
| 14:52.09 | gauner1986 | letama: heard of it, yes.. but dunno where it is.. |
| 14:52.58 | LeTama | gauner1986: ok... I want to be able to build to have maximum source code possible |
| 14:53.10 | LeTama | gauner1986: I'll take a look someday |
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| 14:54.40 | Cass | LeTama, http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Building_from_source |
| 14:54.56 | Cass | works well |
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| 14:55.30 | gauner1986 | they also have a custom kernel repo it seems |
| 14:55.34 | Cass | yes |
| 14:55.46 | LeTama | thanks Cass, looks nice |
| 14:56.02 | Cass | it builds a kernel .. but its of no use to us ;) i ignore that part when making the distro |
| 14:57.27 | gauner1986 | what really bugs me about sense is that it is so tightly coupled with the android system |
| 14:57.34 | gauner1986 | instead of having seperate binaries |
| 14:59.08 | LeTama | gauner1986: agreed. I wouldn't mind if source code was provided... |
| 15:00.12 | gauner1986 | true |
| 15:00.23 | gauner1986 | under what license is android distributed again? |
| 15:00.24 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
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| 15:01.12 | matth | do we know how to make goldcard level 0 on at least one HTC phone ? |
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| 15:06.33 | Quier | hi |
| 15:07.03 | [acl] | phh: false alarm on my irqs :-( |
| 15:07.12 | phh | [acl]: you're sure ? |
| 15:07.18 | phh | [acl]: if you got bootsplash then 3D was working |
| 15:07.24 | phh | with 3D enabled* |
| 15:07.27 | [acl] | phh: i set them to trigger low to test the video flipping issue i had |
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| 15:07.39 | [acl] | phh: forgot to turn em back up to high |
| 15:07.44 | [acl] | realized there were irqs but for the wrong reasons |
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| 15:09.41 | [acl] | phh: yeah so no celebration |
| 15:15.15 | NeoMatrixJR | puts away party favors |
| 15:16.00 | NeoMatrixJR | Any word on the mic issue yet for audio? I just helped my sister-in-law by an android phone yesterday and I can |
| 15:16.14 | NeoMatrixJR | *'t wait until I can try the voice search and input |
| 15:17.13 | [acl] | phh: i didnt get a boot splash.. i got a nice white screen .. thought it was the white htc boot splah but it just stayed white ..lol.. so yeah.. false alarm |
| 15:17.22 | phh | ah. |
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| 15:19.58 | matth | do you guys know how to translate the files in /dev/oncrpc/ into function name/class etc. ? |
| 15:21.50 | NeoMatrixJR | [acl], phh: is there some difference between a 2d and 3d bootsplash (other than force hw3d being on)??? |
| 15:22.00 | phh | NeoMatrixJR: what do you mean ? |
| 15:22.06 | phh | matth: ???? |
| 15:22.13 | phh | matth: those ''files'' are device nodes |
| 15:22.27 | phh | how would you ""convert"" them ? |
| 15:22.32 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: do they display differently or something? |
| 15:22.38 | phh | no |
| 15:22.42 | phh | just uses opengl to render |
| 15:23.30 | matth | I guess that's how rpc functions are called by doing write on those specials devices |
| 15:24.27 | matth | the first number in "$a:$b" looks like a prog number in rpc |
| 15:24.48 | matth | so I was guessing a translation table can be build from the filenames |
| 15:24.55 | matth | s/build/built/ |
| 15:25.08 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: any idea what this command line is for? 7x00.a11=500 |
| 15:25.14 | phh | NOTHING |
| 15:25.16 | phh | for a millions time |
| 15:25.18 | phh | it doth NOTHING* |
| 15:25.35 | NeoMatrixJR | woah. sorry |
| 15:25.42 | phh | matth: it's programid:versionid |
| 15:25.53 | NeoMatrixJR | just noticed it today. I haven't opened my startup.txt in a while. |
| 15:25.56 | phh | read smd_rpc_syms to know what programid are for |
| 15:26.11 | matth | phh: thanks |
| 15:26.24 | matth | (I was looking at specific rpc .so to extract that information) |
| 15:27.27 | [acl] | matth: sounds like you are trying to re-invent the wheel |
| 15:28.42 | matth | [acl]: just to write down some tehcnical facts about how my phone works. I can't find online ressources about this |
| 15:28.43 | Quier | hey dcordes r u here? |
| 15:29.13 | [acl] | matth: did you check the wiki? |
| 15:29.23 | matth | yup, that's my best ressource atm |
| 15:29.30 | matth | Leo & MSM RPCs |
| 15:29.38 | [acl] | ahh ic |
| 15:30.19 | matth | theres are some calls but how it has been extracted is not explained |
| 15:30.31 | matth | and I don't trust their are the same on my Click |
| 15:30.35 | [acl] | matth: disassembly most likely |
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| 15:37.18 | matth | what are you guys mainly working at ? Leo Linux port ? |
| 15:39.01 | [acl] | lately its all tp2.. we are killing all hd2 people ..:-p |
| 15:39.24 | matth | :) |
| 15:39.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey [acl] |
| 15:39.47 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sup dood.. |
| 15:39.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | have you read logs? |
| 15:40.07 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: a lil since last night.. |
| 15:40.27 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: anything in particular i should look out for? |
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| 15:40.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | in short, rpc seems to work for setting frequencies and enabling/disabling clocks. which makes no sense to me since generally clocks should be available before rpc |
| 15:41.31 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i know rpc works.. thats who im doing some clocks.. but i havent done frequencies yet |
| 15:41.54 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: now how about dex ? ever tried that for clocks ? |
| 15:42.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | i wanted to ask you the same thing |
| 15:42.30 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i did but i dont have the values to pass down. they dont use the linux clock ids |
| 15:42.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, but they should match wince values, not? |
| 15:43.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | in wince 0x38 is pmdh clock |
| 15:43.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | i love that clock. if you disable it, the screen freezes immediately |
| 15:43.22 | [acl] | yeah those are the msm enable ids.. i guess we cna used thos but i only have a few |
| 15:43.32 | [acl] | like grp and mddi .. need to harvest the rest |
| 15:44.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually i have made a small c file that registers a debugfs entry that allows me to call rpc, dex and poop from userspace |
| 15:44.30 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i posted some code a while back .. need to look at the logs.. its simple to make the call (at least i think i was doing it right) but since i didnt have all the ids i didnt go all the way in |
| 15:44.56 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: ahhh so u make rpc calls from userland ? ahh we can test nicely from there |
| 15:45.24 | [acl] | run some tests and ump clocks after your calls.. see if they are working |
| 15:45.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, with rpc everything works flawlessly, clk_disable, clk_enable and setting frequencies and clocks do change |
| 15:47.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | so, is dex like sending {.cmd = 0x21, .has_data = 1, .data=clock_id }? |
| 15:48.20 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: hmm i dont remember.. but i think thats what i did.. ill have to check later. but its a quick test. |
| 15:48.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, dex doesn't seem to work |
| 15:48.35 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: you get errors ? |
| 15:48.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, it just does nothing |
| 15:48.58 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: may not be calling it right.. need to dig into it i suppose |
| 15:49.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | while it works for lcd, mddi and vibra. i wonder where cr2 got that dex commands from |
| 15:49.11 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: it didnt work for me too but i gave up too quickly |
| 15:49.32 | [acl] | phh: do you know how cr2 got all the dex cmds ? |
| 15:49.48 | phh | [acl]: I'd say disasm |
| 15:50.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: but you don't have symbol names in disassembly |
| 15:50.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | so some of them may be wrong or pure guess |
| 15:50.32 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: but you can ""easily"" guess once you know how proc_comm_wince works :p |
| 15:50.42 | phh | then, just follow the thread |
| 15:50.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. what are the prerequisites for running rpc router? |
| 15:51.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | can we have rpc before clocks? |
| 15:51.04 | dcordes | [acl]: cr2_ obtains lots of information from the SPL disassembly |
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| 15:51.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: oh damn. completely forgotten about spl and nk |
| 15:51.25 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: wait.. your clocks should run after rpc is up.. never before |
| 15:51.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: what? do you mean rpc is up when clock_init is called? |
| 15:51.46 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i enable the router connection on late init.. and just call the rpc during each clock call |
| 15:52.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | but right, clock_init is called after amss starts, so rpc should be ready |
| 15:52.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | then i see no reason not to use rpc for everything |
| 15:53.18 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: thats what ive been saying bro..lol.. |
| 15:53.28 | [acl] | u were like "no im too good for rpc" |
| 15:53.31 | [acl] | :-p |
| 15:54.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, rpc is for the cowards and lazy people |
| 15:54.17 | [acl] | lol |
| 15:54.23 | [acl] | but ur onboard .. |
| 15:56.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. what irritates me is that my panel doesn't work off nand. maybe i should try to do it via rpc and pmic, huh? |
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| 15:57.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | and i wonder whether msm clock ids are documented anywhere |
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| 16:10.25 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: im just glad we are on the same page about rpc.. |
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| 16:10.33 | whosjose | wanted to know how can i install a rom if i'm on ubuntu? I've installed VirtualBox but my phone isn't getting picked up so I wanted to know how can i get it working? |
| 16:10.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | use HTCFlasher |
| 16:11.03 | whosjose | on ubuntu or on vb? |
| 16:11.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | ubuntu |
| 16:11.12 | whosjose | ok |
| 16:11.15 | whosjose | thanks |
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| 16:13.43 | whosjose | Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: gtkdialog |
| 16:13.50 | whosjose | what should i do? |
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| 16:14.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | compile from source without gtkdialog? |
| 16:14.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | i can send you the binary |
| 16:14.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | what device, btw? |
| 16:15.13 | whosjose | hd2 leo |
| 16:15.42 | whosjose | i don't know how to compile it, not so good in the commands |
| 16:16.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, wait a bit |
| 16:16.37 | dcordes | whosjose: I think the author of the HTCFlasher program usually hangs out in #xdadevs |
| 16:17.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | whosjose: so you tried installing the deb file, right? |
| 16:17.12 | dcordes | s/xdadevs/xda-devs/ |
| 16:17.47 | whosjose | what? |
| 16:17.53 | whosjose | the screen cleared |
| 16:17.56 | whosjose | lol |
| 16:18.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | where did you get the gtkdialog error? |
| 16:18.08 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: i ran into alot of dead code on the dlls. Alot of rpc servers that are on the dlls not available to us. So that userland rpc code will come in handy |
| 16:18.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: wait a bit |
| 16:19.12 | whosjose | Alex: I've google HTCFlasher and then I landed on the XDA site from there I got forwarded to the Google Code site. |
| 16:19.14 | [acl] | ok.. i shall wait |
| 16:19.21 | whosjose | I then downloaded the .deb and then i got the error. |
| 16:19.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | whosjose: download this http://www.mediafire.com/?gy46koy58hfh561, run "chmod +x HTCFlasher", and then ./HTCFlasher -F path-to-your-rom-nbh-file |
| 16:19.34 | whosjose | ok one second |
| 16:19.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | or, you can run "sudo apt-get install gtkdialog" |
| 16:20.05 | whosjose | it can't find the package |
| 16:21.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: http://pastebin.com/4jfDPB66 |
| 16:21.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | hope you can extend it to allow specifying rpc server code via dbgfs and correct the version |
| 16:22.03 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: you recycled my code |
| 16:22.05 | [acl] | lol |
| 16:22.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: yes, right |
| 16:22.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | why not if it works |
| 16:22.29 | [acl] | agreed |
| 16:22.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i even used your method of pooping |
| 16:23.01 | [acl] | ahh classic |
| 16:23.06 | whosjose | OK |
| 16:23.10 | whosjose | alex |
| 16:23.13 | [acl] | like clock_poop.. my fav call |
| 16:23.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | rclk_poop_set lol |
| 16:23.49 | [acl] | this is good stuf.. the set rate.. looks sexy |
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| 16:24.45 | whosjose | alex |
| 16:24.46 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: u compile this separately? i though u actually had and android app to test. phh has a sample one for gps.. |
| 16:24.50 | whosjose | root@whosjose-laptop:/home/whosjose/Downloads# ./HTCFlasher -F /home/whosjose/Desktop/ChuckyMod/RUU_Signed_0409.nbh |
| 16:24.52 | whosjose | === HTCflasher v3.1 |
| 16:24.54 | whosjose | === Open source RUU for HTC devices |
| 16:24.56 | whosjose | === (c) 2007-2008 Pau Oliva Fora |
| 16:25.00 | whosjose | [] Flash NBH file '/home/whosjose/Desktop/ChuckyMod/RUU_Signed_0409.nbh' |
| 16:25.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: want me to write an app |
| 16:25.02 | whosjose | /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory |
| 16:25.04 | whosjose | [!!] Can't connect to /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 16:25.06 | whosjose | root@whosjose-laptop:/home/whosjose/Downloads# |
| 16:25.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | whosjose: ok, you put it into bootloader? |
| 16:25.23 | whosjose | what? |
| 16:26.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | turn it off. then hold volume down, press power button and insert usb cable |
| 16:26.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | you must see tri-color screen |
| 16:27.00 | whosjose | ok |
| 16:27.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | whosjose: have you installed hard spl ? |
| 16:27.03 | whosjose | I'll come back |
| 16:27.06 | whosjose | no |
| 16:27.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | then do it |
| 16:27.15 | whosjose | i can't launch exe |
| 16:27.18 | whosjose | how do i do so? |
| 16:27.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | it should be installable from sd card. probably |
| 16:27.47 | whosjose | ok |
| 16:27.51 | whosjose | so i'll be back |
| 16:27.53 | whosjose | thanks so much alex |
| 16:28.09 | whosjose | ah one last question |
| 16:28.24 | whosjose | is tethering supported on the chuckymod? or on any build? |
| 16:28.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | no idea |
| 16:28.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | don't have hd2 |
| 16:28.35 | whosjose | yala |
| 16:28.39 | whosjose | ok |
| 16:28.41 | whosjose | ty |
| 16:29.13 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: if you have time.. a simple command line userland app should work. if not, we can just keep passing this code around filling in details. Im pissed that the calls for hsusb_phy_reset are not available to us |
| 16:30.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: well, is writing 3 values really hard for you? |
| 16:30.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | then, let's make an android gui app)) |
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| 16:32.34 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: im at work bro.. wont get home till later |
| 16:32.52 | [acl] | So if u can wait.. then ill do it.. but cant right now |
| 16:33.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: you will do what? |
| 16:35.09 | WisTilt2 | [acl] usb reset can be done via a gpio out to 100 if i'm not mistaken. |
| 16:35.49 | [acl] | WisTilt2: hey dood.. sup.. yeah we have it via gpio now but it does not work on nand.. so i wanted to try using rpc. Did you look at our code? |
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| 16:36.09 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: never mind.. make the app :-) |
| 16:36.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | as for usb, first step is to get a driver from 32, it is more complete and if you boot with haret, then you can replug your usb after and it will continue working |
| 16:36.39 | WisTilt2 | ah. nope, haven't been following your nand stuff. Now that sound is working, we just started working on getting the kbd and other button lights to work. |
| 16:37.05 | [acl] | WisTilt2; well thats helpful. but we need your input on 3d as well. The irq issue driving me crazy |
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| 16:37.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: i wonder if we can directly write to dbgfs from android applications or we'll have to call su and shell script |
| 16:38.50 | WisTilt2 | [acl] yeah a couple of my guys are digging into finishing mapping the gpio stuff. i can have a look at the 3d stuff. How far have you gotten and did you ever get irqs working? |
| 16:39.35 | [acl] | WisTilt2: no irqs at all.. :-( |
| 16:40.53 | WisTilt2 | You only working on nand or still trying to get it working from haret boot? |
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| 16:41.58 | [acl] | WisTilt2: working on both. nand right now has irqs for adsp but no sound i believe.. jonpry can fill in |
| 16:42.47 | jonpry | wistilt2: i am wondering what dex cmd update_audio actually does |
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| 16:43.29 | WisTilt2 | [acl] you have your most recent 3d changes anywhere i can take a look at? I dont want to get away from the current haret boot and into nand though until we get all this other stuff working. |
| 16:43.59 | WisTilt2 | Hi jonpry. what source file is that in? |
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| 16:45.41 | gauner1986 | re guys |
| 16:45.42 | [acl] | WisTilt2: our linux-msm kernel has the basics.. it works for other devices so i say that's a safe bet to start looking into. |
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| 16:45.57 | WisTilt2 | jonpry you looking at the htc_acoustic or what? |
| 16:46.30 | whosjose | hey |
| 16:46.39 | whosjose | ok well i'm still having problems:S |
| 16:46.47 | jonpry | htc_acoustic |
| 16:46.57 | whosjose | I've tried to run it on the RUU stage and i'm guessing im having a problem because of the HSPL3 |
| 16:47.12 | whosjose | the HSPL3 can't be launched from the handset, how can i now launch it |
| 16:47.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | let me see. it can probably be extracted |
| 16:47.51 | whosjose | ok |
| 16:47.56 | whosjose | thanks alex |
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| 16:52.57 | vpeezy | sup folks. maybe someone can guide me to the solution toa problem i am having with android 2.2 blazn on touch pro 2. |
| 16:53.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | no blazn in here |
| 16:53.20 | [acl] | xdandroid chat ? or htc-linux-chat |
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| 16:54.22 | vpeezy | i cankt access my sd card. anyone know how to fix this. sorry i clicked chat on android project page. |
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| 16:54.52 | vpeezy | im on my phone so i dont have an irc client. |
| 16:55.17 | WisTilt2 | jonpry: we sure that the value at line 84 in htc_acoustic (0xffff0080) is correct? that seems like wrong area. |
| 16:55.40 | [acl] | vpeezy: your best bet is to post on xda or ppcgeeks.. |
| 16:56.09 | WisTilt2 | and why is that statically set to that addr? is your mic working like it is? |
| 16:56.41 | dcordes | ~ping Cass |
| 16:56.41 | apt | pong Cass |
| 16:56.44 | gauner1986 | cotulla: hey :) |
| 16:56.45 | vpeezy | should i start a new thread or use current android tp2 thread on xda forums |
| 16:57.15 | whosjose | uh huh |
| 16:57.15 | redgar | A better I dea would be to search the forum |
| 16:57.22 | whosjose | so there is no chance of be installing the HSPL3? |
| 16:57.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | whosjose: well, i haven't yet unpacked the installer. you can ask cotulla for the unpacked version |
| 16:58.00 | vpeezy | i searched the forum noting on sd cards and froyo 2.2 for touch pro 2. |
| 16:58.34 | vpeezy | reefer ever come into this channel? |
| 16:59.06 | [acl] | vpeezy: he isnt here now.. but i seen him before |
| 16:59.26 | MaricSmith | Anybody ever have theird hd2 go into this wierd mega low backlight mode? i can still turn up the backlight, but even on its brightest setting it's still fairly dark. If i reboot it will go back to the normal backlight setting though. |
| 16:59.52 | redgar | haha - I have that happen to mine from time to time |
| 17:00.14 | vpeezy | ok. o well. guess ill have to wait till i can get to a pc and see if i can find somethin. thanks |
| 17:00.45 | MaricSmith | seems to happen when i get antsy about waiting for the phone to show the unlock screen and end up mashing the input buttons abit. |
| 17:01.02 | whosjose | uh huh |
| 17:03.41 | whosjose | damn alex is there anyway i can do it? |
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| 17:03.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | dunno, ask on xda-devs |
| 17:04.01 | whosjose | #xda-devs |
| 17:05.23 | whosjose | so what does sp3dev mean? |
| 17:05.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | who knows.. it was long long ago ;) |
| 17:06.24 | whosjose | lol |
| 17:07.03 | whosjose | well alex, one stated to use WINE |
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| 17:07.08 | whosjose | i'll be giving it a try now |
| 17:07.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. you know, usb works in virtualbox. i have flashed my phone.. so maybe try on windows xp or windows seven |
| 17:08.43 | whosjose | well im on ubuntu |
| 17:08.50 | whosjose | for some reason my phone doesn't get picked up at all |
| 17:08.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | you have virtualbox |
| 17:09.02 | whosjose | yea |
| 17:09.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | did you connect usb to virtualbox? |
| 17:09.29 | whosjose | i believe so |
| 17:09.32 | whosjose | where would i do it? |
| 17:10.20 | whosjose | in the settings |
| 17:10.24 | whosjose | usb |
| 17:10.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | Devices -> USB Devices -> check your device. and make sure you install the proprietary virtualbox PUEL, it doesn't work with virtualbox ose. and use google to search about flashing in vb |
| 17:10.29 | whosjose | enable the storage right? |
| 17:10.39 | Cotulla | hey |
| 17:11.10 | Cotulla | Sebastian |
| 17:11.16 | Cotulla | how are u? |
| 17:11.30 | whosjose | im having a problem nada get's picked up |
| 17:11.39 | whosjose | imma try wine |
| 17:11.53 | gauner1986 | hm.. university starts tomorrow.. after a long vacation time.. :D |
| 17:11.58 | gauner1986 | not good! |
| 17:12.03 | gauner1986 | and you? |
| 17:12.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | wine will not work. use google. why will it work when you're lazy to even read about setting up usb |
| 17:13.04 | Cotulla | u have already 31? |
| 17:13.21 | Cotulla | or u have 30 days in august? |
| 17:13.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | or university starts on 31 |
| 17:14.24 | Cotulla | ÂÃÒÒÙ |
| 17:14.27 | Cotulla | DUNNO |
| 17:14.30 | Cotulla | wtf\ |
| 17:14.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | lolcaps |
| 17:15.22 | Cotulla | left hands |
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| 17:16.31 | jonpry | wilstilt2: 0xffff0080 is in IOMEM somewhere. i don't know why anything in that file is set the way it is. its basically like like hw3d driver, and i'm not sure if it works on any platform. mic/sound only works on haret. i'm thinking wince sets up acoustic somehow, and when that doesn't happen, there is a problem |
| 17:16.57 | Cotulla | hey jonpry |
| 17:17.00 | Cotulla | how is it? |
| 17:17.14 | jonpry | hi cotulla. we have sound now :-) |
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| 17:17.29 | jonpry | how's it with you? |
| 17:17.43 | Cotulla | hehe where was problem? |
| 17:17.55 | jonpry | dsp tables |
| 17:18.14 | Cotulla | order of them> |
| 17:18.15 | Cotulla | ? |
| 17:18.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | some entries were missing |
| 17:18.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can see the patch |
| 17:18.39 | jonpry | yeah, the table from wince has gaps |
| 17:18.50 | Cotulla | heh |
| 17:18.53 | Cotulla | 3D? |
| 17:18.55 | jonpry | or should have gaps |
| 17:18.55 | Cotulla | how is it? |
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| 17:19.19 | hexed | hi peoples.. |
| 17:19.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: http://gitorious.com/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/36531de61e9aff05f51e4abfc4c93b3dbdb5150b |
| 17:19.25 | hexed | a quick question.. |
| 17:19.40 | jonpry | no 3d yet. i'm working on sound/nand atm |
| 17:20.02 | hexed | there is a thread going on at PPC geeks regarding people receiving several crashes in android after applying the "crackling sound" fix... |
| 17:20.25 | jonpry | phh: you have a customer |
| 17:20.30 | hexed | I remember people saying that it was a temp fix for the speaker being on all the time.. |
| 17:22.12 | hexed | so I guess my question is.. is there another speaker fix being worked on? |
| 17:23.04 | phh | not really |
| 17:23.09 | phh | hexed: but which phone ? |
| 17:23.31 | hexed | Touch Pro 2... mine is a sprint.. |
| 17:23.41 | hexed | lemme check the thread and see if there are different versions.. |
| 17:23.57 | hexed | here is the thread so far: |
| 17:23.57 | hexed | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=132490 |
| 17:24.15 | jonpry | phh: did you get the messages from pohket about audioflinger sending mute requests to adsp? and us barfing on them? |
| 17:24.29 | phh | uh ? |
| 17:24.29 | phh | no |
| 17:24.30 | hexed | wow |
| 17:24.35 | hexed | every single one of them is on sprint |
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| 17:25.05 | WisTilt2 | thats why im on at&t |
| 17:25.10 | gauner1986 | cotulla: it starts on 31 :P |
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| 17:25.18 | Cotulla | ow... u joking? |
| 17:25.21 | Cotulla | hey WisTilt2 |
| 17:25.22 | hexed | I wonder if other CDMA versions have the same issue.. like a verizon user |
| 17:25.36 | gauner1986 | nah.. i wish i was ;) |
| 17:25.42 | gauner1986 | that's holland :P |
| 17:25.46 | WisTilt2 | btw, my tilt2 has been running android with the sound fixes since Friday, lots of use and not a single crash. |
| 17:25.51 | hexed | meh at&t is doo doo in my area |
| 17:25.58 | WisTilt2 | hi Cotulla |
| 17:25.58 | gauner1986 | ah |
| 17:26.02 | gauner1986 | fucking robot voice again |
| 17:26.03 | gauner1986 | :( |
| 17:26.22 | hexed | maybe 3.5 headphone jack? |
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| 17:26.42 | jonpry | phh: Pohket I think part of the reason we're seeing that stupid 'device 256 != 11' is because Android's audioflinger lib is probably sending through a 'NEEDS_MUTE_ENABLED' flag on the device... at least from my preliminary search that seems to be the case |
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| 17:26.59 | phh | ??? |
| 17:27.08 | phh | the device 256 != 11 is just that android behaves differently than wince radio |
| 17:27.10 | jonpry | snd_set_device? |
| 17:27.20 | phh | CURRENT for android is 256, for wince it's 11 |
| 17:27.24 | GNUtoo|htcdream | hi jonpry |
| 17:27.32 | jonpry | hi GNUtoo |
| 17:27.34 | GNUtoo|htcdream | any progress with mplayer? |
| 17:27.36 | phh | or the opposite |
| 17:27.38 | phh | I never know |
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| 17:28.07 | jonpry | pshh. i installed debian sid. and aplay won't even work from debian for some reason |
| 17:28.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | phucking netbeans is so slow. hate java |
| 17:28.36 | phh | jonpry: strace ? :D |
| 17:28.46 | GNUtoo|htcdream | jonpry, did you rebase our patches? |
| 17:28.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: mounted /dev? |
| 17:28.49 | phh | you tried specific device = hw:0.0 to bypass any muxer or anything |
| 17:29.24 | jonpry | Gnutoo: so i applied the mmap patch and got it to do something. if i aplay -M. i get a echo noise. like it is playing every buffer twice |
| 17:29.53 | GNUtoo|htcdream | jonpry, also the mplayer deblocker patch? |
| 17:30.15 | GNUtoo|htcdream | and the adsp patch? |
| 17:30.35 | jonpry | the echo period is dependent on sample rate but always there. if I aplay -M -D dmix. there is no echo, but there is a click that appears to be at period rate as well. like one of the buffers is not full, or is not initialized |
| 17:31.07 | jonpry | i don't have those other patches. but i don't understand why i didn't need them for alsa under ubuntu |
| 17:31.15 | GNUtoo|htcdream | INVALID_LEN ? |
| 17:31.34 | GNUtoo|htcdream | hmmm |
| 17:31.37 | GNUtoo|htcdream | trry mplayer |
| 17:31.49 | GNUtoo|htcdream | and it ll block |
| 17:32.05 | jonpry | i can play with mplayer only if i use dmix. but it works. same click like aplay though |
| 17:32.06 | GNUtoo|htcdream | i ve a patch that can unblock it |
| 17:32.29 | GNUtoo|htcdream | without dmix it works for me |
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| 17:32.38 | GNUtoo|htcdream | what s your dmix setup |
| 17:32.56 | jonpry | nothing. i just installed it. all defaults |
| 17:33.12 | GNUtoo|htcdream | ok |
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| 17:33.19 | GNUtoo|htcdream | no asoundrc? |
| 17:33.22 | jonpry | no |
| 17:33.27 | GNUtoo|htcdream | ok |
| 17:33.39 | GNUtoo|htcdream | how did you install it then? |
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| 17:34.29 | jonpry | http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix |
| 17:35.05 | gauner1986 | shu8i: heard there's a new zego rom... did you already do some work on it? |
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| 17:35.50 | shu8i | gauner1986: no not rly since i released 1.5 yesterday... have to study a bit :P |
| 17:35.57 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 17:36.21 | shu8i | did he released it here in main channel? |
| 17:37.01 | F-D | yes shu8i... i cant get it to work tho |
| 17:37.08 | F-D | check about 9am this morning (gmt) |
| 17:37.17 | shu8i | found it ty |
| 17:37.44 | whosjose | Okay, last question so i can start on playing |
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| 17:38.28 | whosjose | I'm downloading VMware linux 7.1.1 bundle. How do I install it? OR can I install the windows .exe and use Wine to install? |
| 17:39.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | basically you have to run the installer. like bash Vmware-.... and learn to use google, please. it's all explained, especially for ubuntu |
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| 17:50.59 | deepu | pl z tell me the player for playing all video formats? |
| 17:51.40 | phh | mplayer ? |
| 17:52.13 | shu8i | f-d: did you partitioned your sdcard? |
| 17:52.48 | deepu | sd card means? |
| 17:53.06 | gauner1986 | ... |
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| 17:53.23 | gauner1986 | people should read more :) |
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| 17:54.17 | GNUtoo|laptop | jonpry, I'll link you to our tree |
| 17:54.46 | deepu | is ubuntu ultimate 2.7 edition is worth or not? |
| 17:54.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming/commits/android-msm-2.6.32-rebase |
| 17:55.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | ubuntu windows 7 ultimate edition.... |
| 17:55.44 | deepu | nope |
| 17:55.52 | deepu | ubuntu ultimate 2.7 |
| 17:56.23 | deepu | it has many packages for inbuilt |
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| 18:21.04 | jonpry | gnutoo: did you get dmix working? |
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| 18:21.33 | MN | Hi |
| 18:23.13 | MN | hows development going today |
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| 18:25.25 | spanner3003 | help where do i start with all the documentation for linux kernel 2.6.35 drivers. |
| 18:26.32 | F-D | shu8i yes i followed readme exactly... |
| 18:26.35 | spanner3003 | i want to make some drivers for the htc universal. Phone, Sound, ect |
| 18:26.59 | F-D | to get it to partition in recovery i hadto click factory reset... then do the umount |
| 18:27.08 | F-D | else it couldnt umount and parted was a no go |
| 18:27.35 | ali1234 | spanner3003: universal already has nearly everything working: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus |
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| 18:28.58 | spanner3003 | yes but on 2.6.21 kernel and i want to use 2.6.35 as i think that is the best one for android |
| 18:29.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | but everything is ported to 2.6.35 already |
| 18:30.04 | ali1234 | spanner3003: just start reading the source :) |
| 18:30.24 | spanner3003 | is it Alex[sp3dev] ? |
| 18:30.35 | spanner3003 | where? |
| 18:30.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | on the xda android thread? |
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| 18:32.45 | spanner3003 | what here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=524 |
| 18:32.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh well. looks like you need a newer wifi driver. that should be available somewhere. and as for the phone, just rewrite it. there are plenty of rfkill drivers to use as a sample |
| 18:33.18 | Cotulla | Alex, why it was changed? |
| 18:33.20 | Cotulla | :P |
| 18:33.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: what? |
| 18:33.32 | Cotulla | rfkill... |
| 18:33.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | iirc there was no rfkill in 2.6.21 at all |
| 18:33.58 | Cotulla | I about 29 -> 32 |
| 18:34.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah. probably they added new rfkill classes. or just to clean up the code |
| 18:34.43 | Cotulla | "just to clean up the code" :D |
| 18:34.45 | Cotulla | ok thanks |
| 18:35.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, linux people like to clean up code)) |
| 18:35.09 | spanner3003 | ok could you please help me find them |
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| 18:35.34 | Cotulla | I wanna grab shotgun after their "just to clean up the code" and puff pafff .... |
| 18:36.42 | gauner1986 | how are weapon laws in russia? |
| 18:36.43 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 18:37.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, this requires large efforts to keep supporting old drivers but linux is almost 20 years old and the code is still clean.. unlike that of desktop windows |
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| 18:38.01 | spanner3003 | will a put: rfkill drivers htc universal in google but i don't know what i'm looking for i'm a vb coder really |
| 18:39.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | spanner3003: please first download the sources for both 2.6.21 and 2.6.35 and try to understand what has not been ported and try to understand the code. unfortunately no one has time to support the device they don't own |
| 18:39.30 | spanner3003 | http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/35-rc1/Documentation/rfkill.txt |
| 18:39.51 | Cotulla | Alex, u think NT code not clear? |
| 18:40.14 | spanner3003 | Cotulla, dose own one, do you not? |
| 18:40.36 | Cotulla | dose? |
| 18:40.54 | spanner3003 | and yes atm i have a lot of source code |
| 18:41.00 | Cotulla | explain, my english is poor |
| 18:41.03 | Cotulla | :) |
| 18:41.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: for me writing a kernel-level driver for nt was a very big pain. i hate all their headers entirely relating on thousands of ifdefs. it's like linux, but MS people won't let you look at config))) |
| 18:41.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: he meant does |
| 18:41.30 | Cotulla | I don't think so... they have nice documentation... and even support |
| 18:41.51 | Cotulla | even in linux kernel each 3 function is defined as "inline" somewhere |
| 18:41.57 | Cotulla | it make searching awful |
| 18:42.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | why? |
| 18:42.25 | Cotulla | because source / headers separation is good thing... |
| 18:42.34 | spanner3003 | like htc universal linux kernel, titchy linux for the htc universal witch is 2.6.21 and the htc universal kernel is 2.6.35r3 but phone sound and wifi don't work |
| 18:42.54 | Cotulla | and I don't think it will give more than 1% of speed boost |
| 18:42.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, that is true. but basically there is no reason to put static functions into header, no one will be able to link anyway |
| 18:43.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, it actually depends on the function. like, if you call it 100 times a second, inlining means (well, if you have to call something 100 times a second you're fucked anyway) |
| 18:44.07 | Cotulla | even 100 times a second won't give much boost |
| 18:45.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, 100000 times a second. but well, inline functions are generally used to increase readability. it is considered bad if a function takes up several screens in length |
| 18:45.28 | Cotulla | inline functions in headers decrease readability |
| 18:45.39 | Cotulla | u need switch each time from source to headers and etc |
| 18:45.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | inline functions in headers is stupid. where have you found that? |
| 18:45.58 | Cotulla | also maybe I want just to look at functions list |
| 18:46.09 | Cotulla | inline / static |
| 18:46.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, functions in headers is wrong anyway |
| 18:46.49 | spanner3003 | so can you guys help me? |
| 18:46.50 | Cotulla | static inline void init_completion(struct completion *x) |
| 18:46.50 | Cotulla | { |
| 18:46.50 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.50 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.50 | Cotulla | } |
| 18:46.52 | Cotulla | example |
| 18:46.57 | Cotulla | include\linux\completion.h |
| 18:47.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | there must be a reason for that |
| 18:47.16 | Cotulla | are they really think this inline will change something |
| 18:47.18 | Cotulla | ? |
| 18:47.26 | Cotulla | it called at init once... |
| 18:47.44 | Cotulla | look to include - there a lot of functions |
| 18:47.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, actually calling a function takes more time than assigning a value to a variable |
| 18:47.50 | Cotulla | in such way |
| 18:48.15 | F-D | gauner1986: did you get that zego build running? |
| 18:48.45 | Cotulla | or |
| 18:48.46 | Cotulla | #define wait_event(wq, condition) \ |
| 18:48.46 | Cotulla | do { \ |
| 18:48.46 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.46 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.46 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.46 | Cotulla | } while (0) |
| 18:48.49 | Cotulla | why it in header? |
| 18:49.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | because it is a macro |
| 18:49.04 | Parad0XUA | yup |
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| 18:49.18 | Cotulla | it decrease readability |
| 18:49.37 | Parad0XUA | some of the most used functions have to be in headers or you'll have tones of small C files with one-two functions in them |
| 18:49.56 | Parad0XUA | Cotulla most IDEs have a button that collapses function bodies... use that :) |
| 18:50.02 | Cotulla | and there no documentation for wait_event() |
| 18:50.07 | Cotulla | u need go and look code |
| 18:50.13 | Cotulla | even in google u got nothing |
| 18:50.19 | Cotulla | it's BIG difference |
| 18:50.31 | Cotulla | WaitForSingleObject documented on each 10 page seems |
| 18:51.04 | Cotulla | so disagree with u :) |
| 18:51.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | my only explanation is that this function may have been written by Linus and he's too cool to write documentation |
| 18:51.48 | Cotulla | yeah. he too cool |
| 18:51.53 | Parad0XUA | :-D |
| 18:51.54 | Cotulla | :) |
| 18:52.21 | theredundant` | ~seen zego |
| 18:52.28 | apt | zego <~zego@122.129.199.154> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 10h 22m 20s ago, saying: 'CM6.0.0-RC3 based ROM for HD2: http://pastebin.com/0xSN3rbH (for those who care)'. |
| 18:52.28 | Cotulla | in next release somebody will start to think that wait_event() is bad name. it's not right. so he will change it to wait_for_even() |
| 18:52.30 | Parad0XUA | I'm sure there's a bunch of functions in windows kernel written by Bill Gates... but for some reason I'm sure he has documented them well :) |
| 18:52.38 | spanner3003 | bbs lunch time |
| 18:53.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | time for a "srach"?) |
| 18:53.19 | Cotulla | heh |
| 18:53.26 | Cotulla | maybe\ |
| 18:53.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://lxr.free-electrons.com/ident?v=2.6.27;i=wait_completion |
| 18:53.27 | Cotulla | :D |
| 18:53.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | you can find where it's used across different versions |
| 18:54.05 | Cotulla | yeah. used it |
| 18:54.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | so, it's in mtd? |
| 18:55.26 | Cotulla | dunno |
| 18:55.34 | Cotulla | but my tree can be different isn't it? |
| 18:55.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, it can |
| 18:56.23 | Cotulla | even in drivers NT save some compatible... |
| 18:56.50 | Cotulla | this is nice... linux had not it.. so ppl need redo already existing code in tons |
| 18:58.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, on the other hand, supporting a stable ABI can be difficult. now we have source - we can rewrite it. if you have binary drivers like in windows, you can't just change the underlying framework, you will be attacked by customers |
| 18:59.34 | Cotulla | why difficult? |
| 18:59.50 | Cotulla | u just need implement new things separately |
| 18:59.58 | Cotulla | and then at some moment remove old apis |
| 18:59.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | then you'll have to keep old code |
| 19:00.04 | Cotulla | it's not so bad |
| 19:00.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is bad |
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| 19:00.15 | Cotulla | old code can be much better than new |
| 19:00.36 | Alex[sp3dev] | the problem is that there must never be two interfaces for the same thing |
| 19:00.42 | Cotulla | yes\ |
| 19:00.49 | Cotulla | and I don't see any problems there |
| 19:00.55 | Cotulla | one declared as "deprecated" |
| 19:00.58 | Cotulla | and one is new |
| 19:01.44 | Cotulla | just think how many people will able to save their time |
| 19:01.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | the problem is that your source is becomming bigger and no one wants to give up using deprecated functions. take a look at GTK2 framework. it has half of the functions marked as deprecated for several years |
| 19:01.50 | Cotulla | and use this time for other targets |
| 19:02.19 | Cotulla | so in linux kernel 3.0.0 old deprecated functions can be removed for example |
| 19:02.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, basically, the idea is that you write the code, and then the one who changes frameworks rewrites your code. but it doesn't work. why? because people keep their own branches and do not want to integrate their code to the mainline |
| 19:04.18 | Cotulla | but code size can be too big |
| 19:04.30 | Cotulla | and who developing "framework" |
| 19:04.36 | Cotulla | may have no idea about other project |
| 19:06.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | if the other project is in the mainline tree, he will just grep for needed strings. the idea is that everyone should integrate to mainline. as for android, it is not integrated because it has a lot of code that duplicates the existing interfaces and Linus wants them to rewrite the original code instead of adding new and making it hard to support both |
| 19:07.24 | Cotulla | Linus? |
| 19:07.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | Linus Torvalds |
| 19:07.48 | Cotulla | but I thought it's community decision... not one person |
| 19:08.53 | Cotulla | otherwise it's again all around one king... |
| 19:09.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, it's actually the decision of maintainers. why would they accept dirty hacks that are only useful for android when this stuff can be implemented in the way all linux distributions will benefit (and all platforms including x86, not arm only). you can google the story about wakelock integration |
| 19:10.10 | jonpry | a benevolent dictator is better than a democracy any day of the week. |
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| 19:11.00 | Cotulla | Alex, why google want to include code? |
| 19:11.19 | gauner1986 | why doesnt htc provide sourcecode for sense? |
| 19:11.20 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 19:12.05 | WisTilt2 | hey jonpry or phh you dont happen to know which funcs control landscape/portrait off hand do you? |
| 19:13.31 | [acl] | im afraid to read the logs.. looks like a bible |
| 19:14.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: because they have implemented partial wake for android, but in the way other platforms can't benefit. they want to integrate because then kernel maintainers will support the code instead of them. to save money. google is evil empire |
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| 19:14.51 | en1gma | i have the TP2 and when i use skype it only comes over the external speaker.....is there anyway to use it like a normal phone and use the internal mic/speaker? |
| 19:16.14 | Cotulla | at the end all problems in too many changes in kernel |
| 19:16.33 | Cotulla | don't think they are all significant |
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| 19:17.17 | Cotulla | why not to stop on some set of functionality |
| 19:17.24 | Cotulla | and then improve stability / speed |
| 19:17.37 | Cotulla | and if new I/F appear, implement only them |
| 19:17.46 | ali1234 | Cotulla: linux devs specifically don't want to do what you say because it makes it too easy for people to release binary only drivers |
| 19:18.06 | Cotulla | so it also reason? |
| 19:19.11 | Cotulla | why not to disallow binary drivers at all? |
| 19:19.34 | en1gma | so when a TP2 uses skype is it always on speakerphone or can i make it use internal speaker somehow |
| 19:19.45 | ali1234 | Cotulla: if you google, you can find many rants by linus explaining it |
| 19:19.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: because then vendord will not write drivers for, say, 3d and linux will die because no one will invest money |
| 19:19.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | s/vendord/vendors |
| 19:20.25 | Cotulla | but u thnk they will invest money if ABI changes too much? |
| 19:20.35 | Cotulla | they got a lot of complains from users... |
| 19:21.02 | ali1234 | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt |
| 19:21.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: if it was not for redhat and novell, linux would be nowhere today |
| 19:21.05 | ali1234 | read it ^ |
| 19:21.29 | Cotulla | redhat make money on linux, right? |
| 19:21.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 19:21.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | and they contribute a lot of code to both linux and userspace projects like gnome |
| 19:22.09 | Cotulla | so at the end it's almost commercial project... |
| 19:22.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | true |
| 19:22.31 | Cotulla | maybe better to include google patches also? |
| 19:22.39 | Cotulla | because they may improve it also later... |
| 19:22.41 | jonpry | en1gma: i will make it work for you for an appropriate donation |
| 19:22.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, the idea behind GPL is not to prohibit someone making money but to allow anyone modify the source code |
| 19:23.12 | Cotulla | but it still have some problems |
| 19:23.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: when they improve, it will be included. in linux, there is 'stagins' drivers directory. they accept such code there and if the code is not rewritten to conform to standards within several months, they drop the code |
| 19:24.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | s/stagins/staging/ |
| 19:26.21 | Cotulla | but why they don't want to spend their efforts to something else... for example making good big free programs.. or improve other userspace stuffs..? |
| 19:26.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | who 'they'? |
| 19:26.47 | Cotulla | kernel developers |
| 19:27.06 | ali1234 | maybe because they are kernel developers? |
| 19:28.38 | Cotulla | so it means that they should in circle change kernel code right? |
| 19:28.49 | ali1234 | meh |
| 19:28.52 | Cotulla | and fuck to other developers who need to port drivers every time? |
| 19:28.55 | ali1234 | they can do whatever they want |
| 19:28.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, not that |
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| 19:29.08 | Cotulla | Alex just think |
| 19:29.11 | Cotulla | if ABI was stable |
| 19:29.13 | dcordes-lib | gauner1986: ping |
| 19:29.19 | dcordes-lib | hi Cotulla, others |
| 19:29.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: gimme a time to formulate my thought |
| 19:29.22 | Cotulla | all this android developing will be MUCH faster |
| 19:29.25 | gauner1986 | dcordes-lib: pong |
| 19:29.38 | ali1234 | if you choose to keep your drivers outside mainline, then you only have yourself to blame |
| 19:29.39 | dcordes-lib | gauner1986: does mac reading algo from zego patch work for you ? |
| 19:29.52 | Cotulla | we won't able to have any problems with google 2.6.32 android, evo2.6.32 and etc |
| 19:30.03 | Cotulla | just one kernel tree and drivers are compatible |
| 19:30.15 | dcordes-lib | Cotulla: which ABI ? |
| 19:30.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | basically, if every developer interested in integrating his code will rewrite it himself, it is easier to merge all the code together |
| 19:30.25 | ali1234 | why you want to use some old buggy kernel anyway? |
| 19:30.26 | Cotulla | linux kernel and etc |
| 19:30.28 | gauner1986 | dcordes-lib: i had my real mac in logs once.. so i thought it was working. didnt test ifconfig though.. doesnt work for you? |
| 19:30.48 | dcordes-lib | gauner1986: didn't test yet but I compiled it |
| 19:30.49 | Cotulla | ali1234, why buggy? |
| 19:30.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | just imagine. you find some code is flawed or is dirty |
| 19:30.58 | gauner1986 | dcordes-lib: ok |
| 19:31.03 | Cotulla | no new changes == bug fixes == no bugs |
| 19:31.08 | dcordes-lib | lol |
| 19:31.11 | dcordes-lib | Cotulla: nice one |
| 19:31.11 | ali1234 | Cotulla: anything older than 2.6.33.3 has a remote DoS bug |
| 19:31.25 | Cotulla | bug can be fixed |
| 19:31.28 | Cotulla | without changing ABI? |
| 19:31.36 | ali1234 | so maintain 2.6.32 in perpetuity if you want |
| 19:31.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | if you had to keep stable interfaces, that would mean that you'll have to find every single linux developer and send them an email to ask if they agree to accept your changes |
| 19:31.39 | ali1234 | nobody is stopping you |
| 19:31.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | that'd be so sloooow |
| 19:31.50 | Cotulla | or with 1-2 functions prototypes change? |
| 19:31.56 | spanner3003 | bk |
| 19:32.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: afaik that bug was inside of some function and the fix is a one-liner that breaks nothing |
| 19:32.23 | Cotulla | I am talking about mainline |
| 19:32.33 | Cotulla | because they have some kind of control |
| 19:32.35 | spanner3003 | whats bin happening |
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| 19:32.54 | Cotulla | Alex, so it can be fixed |
| 19:32.58 | Cotulla | without ABI change... |
| 19:33.05 | Alex[sp3dev] | spanner3003: we're fighting a religious holy war |
| 19:33.26 | ali1234 | true |
| 19:33.41 | Cotulla | why war... |
| 19:33.43 | ali1234 | it's pointless to argue about this, because neither side is going to change |
| 19:33.48 | Cotulla | I just want to understand why it's so |
| 19:34.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, i'm tired. i have spent more time arguing with you than i've actually spent writing code today |
| 19:34.04 | spanner3003 | right so rfkill is for air fight and hospitals i need the gprs or gsm driver documentation |
| 19:34.11 | ali1234 | Cotulla: the link i gave explains it |
| 19:34.16 | Cotulla | it's just not logical. |
| 19:34.34 | Cotulla | Alex, :) |
| 19:34.44 | ali1234 | it's not logical if you want to keep your code outside mainline, which in itself is not logical |
| 19:34.45 | Cotulla | I am too out of plan seems |
| 19:35.24 | Cotulla | but mainline have own criteria |
| 19:35.33 | spanner3003 | rfkill turns off gsm and gprs and wifi |
| 19:35.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes. write good code or gtfo |
| 19:35.46 | ali1234 | yeah, your code has to follow the coding standards and not totally suck |
| 19:35.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | that is the criteria |
| 19:35.53 | Cotulla | which maybe just some stupid idea in somebody brain |
| 19:37.06 | Cotulla | if ABI was fixed, spanner3003 now will be work under improving PM for example, instead of some strange problems on clear place. |
| 19:37.10 | Cotulla | :) |
| 19:37.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | basically, as for google and htc, for them it is cheaper to keep a local fork of the tree and not follow the standards because it allows to write code faster, but such code is very difficult to support for anyone except the author |
| 19:37.54 | Cotulla | all GPL code seems "is very difficult to support for anyone except the author" |
| 19:38.04 | Cotulla | or somebody who spend one day to understand it |
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| 19:39.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | dunno. kde.org and QT4, for example, have nice documentation, it's as high quality as .net or java documentation. |
| 19:39.21 | spanner3003 | clear place, ABI? :S |
| 19:39.49 | Cotulla | spanner3003, interfaces. sets of kernel functions and etc |
| 19:40.02 | Cotulla | public kernel structures... |
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| 19:40.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | and well, at least linux is clean. and somewhat suited for mobile devices. the BSD, which has stable interfaces for everything is nowhere near linux in embedded |
| 19:40.41 | ali1234 | yeah i always wonder why people use linux and then cry about GPL |
| 19:40.52 | ali1234 | when there is BSD that they can use instead and not worry |
| 19:41.10 | Cotulla | linux is good word for end-users :P |
| 19:41.49 | ali1234 | BSD runs in half the ram that linux needs |
| 19:41.55 | ali1234 | seems ideal for embedded |
| 19:42.03 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 19:42.05 | Cotulla | iPhone ^_^ |
| 19:42.15 | Cotulla | BSD based darwin |
| 19:42.17 | ali1234 | yeah, true |
| 19:42.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, but that's closed-source |
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| 19:42.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | which explains why no one uses it) |
| 19:42.34 | Cotulla | there only arm part is different |
| 19:42.43 | Cotulla | common code is same like in x86 darwin |
| 19:42.57 | Cotulla | also there some new interfaces for KEXT |
| 19:43.00 | Cotulla | :( |
| 19:43.19 | ali1234 | apple APIs aren't exactly stable: http://jwz.livejournal.com/1224702.html |
| 19:43.27 | ali1234 | granted that is userspace |
| 19:43.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | who would waste his time reimplementing arm for darwin when you can simply choose linux or netbsd? you're lazy to rewrite rfkill and want people to rewrite entire arm support |
| 19:44.03 | Cotulla | yes linux word is good for advertisments |
| 19:44.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, regarding BSD |
| 19:44.19 | Cotulla | even like "android is opened" |
| 19:45.10 | Cotulla | I heard new motorollaz denied new custom roms complete |
| 19:45.14 | Cotulla | is it right? |
| 19:45.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | i heard, they had not |
| 19:45.59 | Cotulla | hacked? |
| 19:46.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | there's so much fuss about eFuse, maybe people are under the impression of Xbox.. |
| 19:46.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | probably hacked. rooted for sure |
| 19:46.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | probably no custom roms because official ones are not available |
| 19:48.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh FFFFUUUCCCKKK |
| 19:48.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | september is near |
| 19:48.19 | Cotulla | 1 day |
| 19:48.21 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 19:48.23 | gauner1986 | nand for leo |
| 19:48.24 | gauner1986 | gogogo |
| 19:48.28 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:48.31 | undarated79 | 9 hours for me |
| 19:48.34 | undarated79 | !!!! |
| 19:48.39 | Cotulla | lol |
| 19:48.44 | gauner1986 | true |
| 19:48.46 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 19:49.06 | undarated79 | oh wait 8h 11ms |
| 19:49.10 | Cotulla | I am looking to .NET Micro Framework now :D |
| 19:49.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | for the next 10 month, we'll be deprived of all the fun and whole-day hacking |
| 19:49.30 | Cotulla | funny thing |
| 19:49.42 | Cotulla | even it compiled by GCC or RCVT |
| 19:49.46 | undarated79 | all you guys are hd2 right |
| 19:49.46 | Cotulla | MS use GCC O_o |
| 19:49.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: of course)) |
| 19:49.55 | undarated79 | lol |
| 19:50.03 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 19:50.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | there is just no other decent compiler for arm |
| 19:50.13 | Cotulla | WTF? |
| 19:50.17 | Cotulla | u joking? |
| 19:50.23 | Cotulla | RCVT better of course |
| 19:50.55 | Cotulla | also new CL is improved... |
| 19:51.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | CL? |
| 19:51.03 | Cotulla | CL.exe |
| 19:51.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah, ms one |
| 19:51.11 | Cotulla | yes |
| 19:51.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, gcc has two good things |
| 19:51.23 | Cotulla | which? |
| 19:51.41 | Cotulla | different versions are also not very compatible btw... |
| 19:51.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | 1. support for new processors is added very frequently 2. it works on almost every platform (i mean, os/cpu arch) |
| 19:52.12 | Cotulla | yeah this good ones |
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| 19:53.12 | Cotulla | in bad things: it extend set of C/C++ too much.. so some things are not possible to implement without big code edit |
| 19:53.35 | Cotulla | for example "case 0..10:" which isn't supported by any other compilers... |
| 19:53.38 | Cass | what an interesting conversation, not seen one like this in a while :) |
| 19:53.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | it's not bad that it provides extensions. the problem is that people use that in their projects |
| 19:53.59 | Cotulla | so if I want to compile it on other compiler |
| 19:54.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | you must write it in accordance to ANSI standard |
| 19:54.13 | Cotulla | I need enter case 0: case 1: and etc by hands... |
| 19:54.40 | gauner1986 | just use if-else constructs :D |
| 19:54.43 | Cotulla | CL have also some extended features, but most of them are present under other names in other compilers |
| 19:55.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: stop saying CL, say msvc at least)). i'm always thinking of common lisp)) |
| 19:55.09 | Cass | gauner1986, case is cheaper no ? |
| 19:55.20 | gauner1986 | cass: really? |
| 19:55.30 | Cass | thought it was |
| 19:55.35 | Cotulla | CL easy to write... and it's actually compiler... MSVC is IDE also... |
| 19:55.36 | dcordes-lib | bbib |
| 19:55.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | gauner1986: depends on the compiler optimisation |
| 19:56.03 | Cotulla | if values in small range, there maybe used jump table |
| 19:56.15 | Cotulla | but actually it can be used for if else also I think |
| 19:56.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | the thing is that case looks more clear |
| 19:56.40 | Cass | yep |
| 19:56.46 | Cass | even to a non coder :) |
| 19:56.50 | Cotulla | :D |
| 19:57.00 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 19:57.02 | Cotulla | logicial |
| 19:57.03 | undarated79 | im lost... |
| 19:57.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | and it is actually nice some high-level languages like java and c# allow you to use strings in switches |
| 19:57.14 | Cotulla | agree |
| 19:57.42 | Cotulla | .NET Microframework allow u to code on C# embedded devices. pron %) |
| 19:57.59 | Cotulla | wanna try it in future |
| 19:59.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | well. in future, when we're done with android, i want to develop free x11-based distro for the phone. either contribute to SHR or write a stand-alone dialer and integrate it into gnome |
| 20:00.10 | Cotulla | oh |
| 20:00.16 | Cotulla | btw are there in ubuntu dialer? |
| 20:00.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | afaik, no |
| 20:00.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | at least, not the one for gsm phones that would support proper call notifications, sms and other shit |
| 20:01.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually, there was no proper gsm phone stack until recently. FSO and ofono have appeared only 2 or 3 years ago |
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| 20:02.40 | Cotulla | oh |
| 20:02.52 | gauner1986 | sucks |
| 20:02.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | regarding .net micro.. me and freepk have been playing with OKL4 recently. he's still struggling to compile it with a custom-made toolchain. and i should tell you, they have even worse documentation than linux |
| 20:03.33 | Cotulla | hm .... |
| 20:03.50 | Cotulla | are u same Alex?? |
| 20:04.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: the same one. remember 777Team?) |
| 20:04.11 | Cotulla | yes |
| 20:04.25 | Cotulla | oh didn't think so... |
| 20:04.52 | Cotulla | it was my idea to try him OKL4 |
| 20:04.56 | Cotulla | %) |
| 20:05.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, i thought so |
| 20:05.24 | Cotulla | but he seems don't know even what is GPIO :( |
| 20:05.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, but he'll learn it |
| 20:05.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | though i think linux is an easier way to learn |
| 20:05.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | a faster one |
| 20:06.00 | Cotulla | I said to him also... |
| 20:06.34 | Cotulla | there even PXA271 in .NET MF support |
| 20:06.41 | Cotulla | funny |
| 20:06.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | i really think it'll be a pain to debug okl without jtag. well, at least we've got leds on gpio and i2c, that may be easier. too bad framebuffer is not supported |
| 20:07.00 | Cotulla | or .NET MF can run under other OS |
| 20:07.14 | Alex[sp3dev] | can it? |
| 20:07.20 | Cotulla | seems yes |
| 20:07.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | nice |
| 20:07.57 | Cotulla | not actually jtag, but maybe uart connection |
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| 20:08.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | still i'm not enthusiastic. it is a very good project to increase your experience, but unfortunately there's no such a great lot of software for it like for linux |
| 20:08.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | i've been thinking about uart |
| 20:08.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | wonder if it is possible to connect to stuart pins |
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| 20:09.23 | Cotulla | for me usually enough 1/0 indicators (leds/vibro/bkl) + screen console + ram console + usb logger |
| 20:09.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, the problem is OKL4 doesn't have framebuffer or usb drivers out of the box |
| 20:10.02 | Taze | hey, can anyone point me to overclock patches (for me to add to my kernel) for the leo? |
| 20:10.25 | Cotulla | is it problem? u need something like htc-linux-console in liux |
| 20:10.29 | Cotulla | *linux |
| 20:10.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | just blit it? |
| 20:10.58 | Cotulla | yes... |
| 20:11.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | might be a good idea actually. the display is on from haret |
| 20:11.11 | Cotulla | yes |
| 20:11.48 | David_2 | Cotulla: The release will be in 3 hours ? |
| 20:11.55 | Cotulla | no |
| 20:11.58 | David_2 | like in 00:00 and 1 second |
| 20:11.58 | Cotulla | wtf? |
| 20:12.06 | Cotulla | I said about whole september |
| 20:12.11 | Cotulla | not about start :) |
| 20:12.39 | spanner3003 | what release? David_2 |
| 20:12.53 | David_2 | I'm sorry for annoying you majesty |
| 20:13.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, i think i'll give up all this embedded stuff for some time. university time begins. i'll be digging into java, SQL and other stuff. besides, i have a lot of plans and things to learn. i think it is dangerous to dig one thing for a long time, you need to have practice in everything |
| 20:13.24 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.26 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sql huh |
| 20:13.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: why not |
| 20:13.38 | Cotulla | [acl], 3D? |
| 20:13.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: besides, i want to learn OpenGL |
| 20:13.47 | [acl] | Cotulla: no 3d.. :-( .. |
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| 20:13.54 | Cotulla | intr? |
| 20:14.10 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: open gl is fun.. did it for a while .. but that was maaany moons ago |
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| 20:14.21 | [acl] | Cotulla: yeah interrupts.. :-( |
| 20:14.27 | Cotulla | working??? |
| 20:14.51 | [acl] | Cotulla: no.. not working.. hopefully WisTilt2 has some magic and might be able to help |
| 20:15.02 | Cotulla | hm somebody say that u had interrupts |
| 20:15.23 | [acl] | Cotulla: it was a flase positive .. i forced the interrupts |
| 20:15.25 | Cotulla | 2 + 12 is nothing? |
| 20:15.31 | [acl] | nuffin |
| 20:15.56 | Cotulla | shit |
| 20:16.01 | spanner3003 | where in the linux kernel 2.6.21-hh20 source can i find a gsm or gprs driver to look at? |
| 20:16.17 | Cotulla | are gprs working on uni? |
| 20:16.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | spanner3003: wait, i'll look |
| 20:16.34 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: why not, it's regular ppp for gsm |
| 20:16.42 | Cotulla | there not so easy |
| 20:16.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think they've implemented the multiplexer |
| 20:16.55 | Cotulla | it seems there connected via USBCDC on USBH |
| 20:16.57 | spanner3003 | Cotulla, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalStatus |
| 20:16.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | at least for qtopia |
| 20:17.13 | jonpry | i'm looking for an n900 if anybody wants to trade for a rhodium and cash. or just wants to buy a rhodium, or just sell a 900 |
| 20:17.17 | Cotulla | oh |
| 20:17.17 | Cotulla | Serial-over-USB channel ttyUSB0 |
| 20:17.19 | Cotulla | nice |
| 20:17.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: and what of that? you power up the gsm chip and it works like a serial tty |
| 20:17.35 | Cotulla | jonpry? :D |
| 20:17.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | jonpry: the 18-wheeled rhodium? |
| 20:18.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | jonpry, your alsa stuff was against rhodium? |
| 20:19.24 | spanner3003 | http://www.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Blog/Titchy%20Linux/ what about this? can i use it |
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| 20:19.49 | MN | Hi |
| 20:20.02 | jonpry | not the 18 wheeled one. my good one. i'm done with it. i just found out it doesn't have an FPU, lol. piece of junk |
| 20:20.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol |
| 20:20.15 | Cotulla | just found?? |
| 20:20.33 | jonpry | yeah. i thought all arm11 had VFP |
| 20:20.40 | Cotulla | oh |
| 20:20.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | vfp is optional for armv6 |
| 20:20.53 | jonpry | apparently |
| 20:21.00 | [acl] | jonpry: done with it ? |
| 20:21.01 | MN | Hey Cotulla hows it going |
| 20:21.05 | Cotulla | as usual |
| 20:21.15 | MN | good good |
| 20:21.20 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:21.27 | jonpry | it can get hit with an 18 wheeler, as long as that 18 wheeler is dropping off my n900 |
| 20:21.44 | MN | lol |
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| 20:22.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | java is such a foo |
| 20:23.08 | hyperfire21 | whats up guys.. i was thinking is tp2 capable of more than 65k colors with android |
| 20:23.15 | MN | is n900 worth it? |
| 20:23.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | hyperfire21: it can handle 18 bits in hardware, but we don't use that |
| 20:23.41 | Cotulla | 18 bits? |
| 20:23.48 | Cotulla | via MDDI? |
| 20:23.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | rgb666 |
| 20:24.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | doesn't it support it? |
| 20:24.02 | Cotulla | and it's working? |
| 20:24.14 | Cotulla | leo have LCDC display |
| 20:24.28 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: well, if you want, i will test it some time later |
| 20:24.33 | Cotulla | but I hate MDDI displays |
| 20:24.38 | Cotulla | because u need update them by hands |
| 20:24.38 | dcordes | gauner1986: where is the firmware that goes together with zego broadcom ? |
| 20:24.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | i hate them too |
| 20:24.51 | dcordes | Cass: |
| 20:24.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | because i can't get my panel to work off nand |
| 20:24.55 | Cass | dcordes, |
| 20:24.58 | Cotulla | pxa style like more |
| 20:25.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 20:25.03 | Cotulla | when u have framebuffer |
| 20:25.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | +1 for pxa |
| 20:25.10 | Cotulla | and it always updated |
| 20:25.24 | Alex[sp3dev] | still have asus p525 waiting for some love |
| 20:25.27 | Cotulla | leo have also such kind of display |
| 20:25.52 | hyperfire21 | damn i was hoping for 24bit to match iphone |
| 20:26.11 | Cotulla | :P |
| 20:26.31 | jonpry | MN: n900 looks pretty good to me. maemo, 3d, slide out keyboard, FPU. who could want more. i mean an A-9MP would be cool in all, but there are none with keyboards |
| 20:27.05 | [acl] | jonpry: damn you are giving up ? say it aint so |
| 20:27.10 | MN | hmm yh i might look out for one |
| 20:27.27 | hyperfire21 | where is the nokia andriod? arent they part of the alliance heh |
| 20:28.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | i think their mission in the alliance is to bury android in favor of true x11 distros |
| 20:28.52 | jonpry | i don't much like android anyways |
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| 20:29.07 | Cotulla | but u will lost fun? |
| 20:29.24 | Cotulla | oh no |
| 20:29.27 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: he will be writing big userspace programs |
| 20:29.32 | Cotulla | :D |
| 20:29.33 | Cotulla | nice! |
| 20:29.36 | hyperfire21 | and to think i was a nokia supporter just a few years ago.. but they suck now.. atleast in north america |
| 20:29.54 | jonpry | it runs android if you want :-) |
| 20:29.56 | spanner3003 | Alex[sp3dev], did you fine that gsm, gprs driver was going to look at? i looked in drivers but thers not one called gsm or gprs |
| 20:30.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | spanner3003: right, i will |
| 20:30.47 | Cotulla | spanner3003, there should be lowlevel drivers |
| 20:30.58 | Cotulla | for gsm - pxa270 uart driver |
| 20:31.01 | Cotulla | as TTY device |
| 20:31.02 | spanner3003 | lowlvel? |
| 20:31.17 | Cotulla | for gprs - pxa270 usb host driver + usb tty (?) |
| 20:31.29 | Cotulla | other stuffs should handled by android... |
| 20:31.33 | Cotulla | isn't it ? |
| 20:31.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | "shouldn't it")) |
| 20:32.13 | Cotulla | maybe there mux also? |
| 20:32.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | not in kernel, i hope |
| 20:33.31 | MN | seem tp2 development is taking over hd2 lol |
| 20:34.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcuniversal/ |
| 20:34.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, they have htcuniversal_phone.c |
| 20:35.01 | Cotulla | but there only on off |
| 20:35.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | it is enough to make ttyUSB0 appear |
| 20:35.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | the rest is userspace |
| 20:35.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | though for blueangel they had a kernel-level line discipline driver |
| 20:36.23 | Cotulla | Calypso.... |
| 20:36.25 | [acl] | jonpry: i get my epic tomorrow.. if we both dissapear who will take over .. lol :-p |
| 20:36.33 | hyperfire21 | is rhod capable of more than 800mhz OC? that palm pre hit 1ghz OC |
| 20:37.03 | Cotulla | what is OC? |
| 20:37.07 | hyperfire21 | overclock |
| 20:37.23 | spanner3003 | yes is the blueangel similar tothe universal? |
| 20:37.31 | Cotulla | not very |
| 20:37.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: well. i have written a basic android app that has two buttons and can display text from /proc/cpuinfo. time to make it functional now |
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| 20:38.14 | Cotulla | Java? :D |
| 20:38.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | aha |
| 20:38.36 | MN | ~seen Mavy |
| 20:38.49 | apt | mavy <~Mavy@5ED0C9C0.cable.ziggo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 5d 5h 49m 6s ago, saying: 'MN, no sadly not. i am waiting for a device i can connect to jtag to figure out what is missing in the kernel. I pretty sure we are missing some hardware init stuff'. |
| 20:39.30 | Cotulla | there no free good jtag linux kernel debuggers, isn't it? |
| 20:39.38 | jonpry | [acl]: the noob's |
| 20:39.49 | Cotulla | otherwise u will spend 99% in system kernel code... scheduling and etc |
| 20:40.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | there's openOCD and something else. but generally no. well, you can use GDB to debug kernel |
| 20:40.32 | Cotulla | and OpenOCD support symbols and etc |
| 20:40.33 | Cotulla | ? |
| 20:40.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | no. gdb does |
| 20:40.49 | MN | Cotulla is your nand method going to be similar to tinboot? |
| 20:41.01 | Cotulla | hm... there no other ways seems... |
| 20:41.03 | [acl] | jonpry: ima dissapear mrpippy style.. dont want to be left alone |
| 20:41.17 | Cotulla | just own bootloader |
| 20:41.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://gdb-jtag-arm.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:41.26 | Cotulla | which will load zImage and initrd to ram |
| 20:41.30 | Cotulla | and then launch them |
| 20:41.51 | jonpry | [acl]. is epic quadband? |
| 20:42.36 | MN | Cotulla oh sounds good how it going |
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| 20:44.27 | [acl] | jonpry: i dunno.. i really dont know much about it |
| 20:44.53 | hyperfire21 | epic should have been a world phone |
| 20:45.01 | Cotulla | epic? |
| 20:45.05 | Cotulla | what is epic? |
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| 20:45.13 | hyperfire21 | samsung epic |
| 20:45.14 | gauner1986 | a world of warcraft term? |
| 20:45.20 | Cotulla | lol |
| 20:45.30 | Cotulla | gauner1986, how many u spend in day to WoW? |
| 20:45.44 | gauner1986 | cotulla: too many.. but it's over :) |
| 20:46.58 | Cotulla | ow... |
| 20:47.04 | Cotulla | why over? |
| 20:47.12 | gauner1986 | because of university |
| 20:47.15 | gauner1986 | and real live stuff |
| 20:47.19 | gauner1986 | like girlfriend |
| 20:47.22 | gauner1986 | and so on |
| 20:47.22 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 20:47.28 | Cotulla | haha |
| 20:47.29 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:47.33 | gauner1986 | it's just too time consuming :) |
| 20:47.35 | [acl] | jonpry: real reason im getting it is because of work. i asked for a phone so i can work on nand .. but i dont think me and wozz will be able to deliver |
| 20:48.01 | MN | nand ftw lol |
| 20:48.05 | jonpry | not be able to deliver nand? |
| 20:48.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | i hate you WoWers. my roommate is one, and i can't sleep if he's playing all night |
| 20:48.15 | MN | how is WoW never played it |
| 20:48.21 | gauner1986 | cotulla: so mobile phone development is my new addiction :P |
| 20:48.52 | MN | gauner1986 what a good addiction to have lol |
| 20:49.17 | [acl] | MN: agreed.. much better than crack or heroin |
| 20:49.21 | [acl] | :-p |
| 20:49.40 | MN | [acl] yes indeed |
| 20:49.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: you must have had lot of experience |
| 20:49.51 | jonpry | how can you be sure? |
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| 20:50.01 | [acl] | haha i left myself open for that one |
| 20:51.17 | MN | so how is nand development going for rhodium |
| 20:51.49 | [acl] | MN: we have too many speedbumps to move forward.. sound is suffering right now. |
| 20:51.50 | jonpry | no sound yet. but wozzer will get it working with a little guidance |
| 20:52.11 | [acl] | damn forgot abotu wozzer.. he will carry the torch |
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| 20:52.28 | jonpry | until his legs give out |
| 20:52.30 | MN | oh well hope it goes well for you rhodium users |
| 20:52.54 | MN | you have nand and hd2 has near enough everything else working lol |
| 20:52.57 | hyperfire21 | acl u leaving? passing the torch? :( |
| 20:53.27 | jonpry | he's going to have 98Mtris/sec tomorrow |
| 20:53.36 | [acl] | hyperfire21: lol.. well jonpry wants to quit .. and i sure as hell dont wanna be left alone with this responsibility .. |
| 20:53.54 | [acl] | cant really complain.. free epic |
| 20:54.10 | hyperfire21 | free how? |
| 20:54.15 | jonpry | [acl] it will probably take me a couple of years to get an n900 down here |
| 20:54.34 | [acl] | haha |
| 20:55.00 | [acl] | hyperfire21: work is buying it for me.. thank god i happen to be very good at what i do |
| 20:55.04 | jonpry | i saw one at the store. $1200US |
| 20:55.30 | [acl] | jonpry: wtf.. thats like a small used car |
| 20:55.44 | MN | here in the uk i can pick one up for £250 |
| 20:55.54 | jonpry | man a falling apart 70's mobile is like $3k |
| 20:56.34 | hyperfire21 | oh nice.. but still so close to 3d.. u put too much time in, cant stop now and wistilt2 is taking care of the button lights and keyboad lights? |
| 20:57.37 | Cotulla | [acl], are u close to 3D? |
| 20:57.54 | [acl] | Cotulla: nope.. i just know it in and out.. but dont know why its not working |
| 20:58.06 | [acl] | Cotulla: its your fault really.. |
| 20:58.08 | [acl] | i blame you |
| 20:58.10 | [acl] | :-p |
| 20:58.14 | Cotulla | :D |
| 20:58.16 | Cotulla | why? |
| 20:58.22 | Cotulla | 3D is working nice on LEO :P |
| 20:58.27 | jonpry | some people think the shared lib might not be compatible |
| 20:58.33 | [acl] | you made me do nand .. and bam.. i delivered nand.. still no 3d |
| 20:58.41 | Cotulla | but u knwo |
| 20:58.46 | Cotulla | that it's not problem now |
| 20:58.50 | MN | yes i think everyone should just by a leo :) |
| 20:58.55 | Cotulla | and u have nand now |
| 20:58.58 | Cotulla | better than nothing\ |
| 20:59.00 | Cotulla | :) |
| 20:59.02 | [acl] | lol |
| 20:59.13 | MN | was jus about to say tht cotulla ;) |
| 20:59.26 | Cotulla | try to implement PM, it may bring 3D up |
| 20:59.48 | [acl] | Cotulla: hopefully wistilt has a few dirty secrets to help |
| 20:59.58 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 21:00.00 | jonpry | PM just makes things slower |
| 21:00.18 | MN | but helps keep your device from exploding :P |
| 21:00.18 | Cotulla | but u make dump? |
| 21:00.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn our suspend is broken |
| 21:00.48 | jonpry | MN: that is why i keep a bucket of water near by |
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| 21:01.36 | [acl] | i think the best solution is to start the bounty |
| 21:01.39 | MN | jonpry: better a fire extinghuiser |
| 21:01.40 | [acl] | bounty to get phh to work again |
| 21:01.43 | [acl] | :-p |
| 21:01.48 | phh | . |
| 21:01.51 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:02.23 | phh | oh btw, I'll be busy until next monday |
| 21:02.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | better find a way to remotely explode phh's android phone |
| 21:02.50 | Cotulla | explode? |
| 21:02.52 | Cotulla | old methods. |
| 21:02.55 | Cotulla | remote brick |
| 21:02.59 | Cotulla | much better :P |
| 21:02.59 | jonpry | patches welcome |
| 21:03.05 | phh | -_-' |
| 21:03.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | brick is no fun |
| 21:03.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | he'll find a way to recover |
| 21:03.16 | phh | I note, don't accept patch from anyone here. |
| 21:03.37 | Cotulla | why? we will send brick path |
| 21:03.38 | Cotulla | patch |
| 21:03.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | then we'll start our own tree, with blackjack and the bitches |
| 21:03.53 | Cotulla | bitches? not whores? |
| 21:03.55 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:03.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | sluts |
| 21:04.22 | phh | the other way would be to actually work at working, rather than bricking/exploding my phone |
| 21:04.23 | phh | (just sayingà|
| 21:04.24 | phh | ) |
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| 21:06.18 | WisTilt2 | phh: do you happen to know where the landscape/portrait modes are handled? |
| 21:06.29 | phh | WisTilt2: in android, or in fbdev ? |
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| 21:09.30 | WisTilt2 | tks. i have 1 guy working on that area, im working on lights, other guy working on gpio mapping. today is phone dev day around here:) |
| 21:09.45 | phh | lol |
| 21:10.02 | WisTilt2 | quietest monday we've had in weeks |
| 21:10.08 | en1gma | will the 3d rendering be fixed sometime hot TP2? |
| 21:10.23 | spanner3003 | the guy on xda dev forum just posted this: http://paulburton89.blogspot.com/2010/08/axdroid-2010-08-30.html |
| 21:10.39 | spanner3003 | hopefully it works |
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| 21:11.30 | phh | enino clue |
| 21:11.33 | phh | en1gma: no clue |
| 21:11.42 | [acl] | WisTilt2: holy crap thats good progress.. |
| 21:12.30 | [acl] | en1gma: sounded like a project management question.. you want our gantt chart of the project so you can see the deadlines ? |
| 21:12.42 | en1gma | yea |
| 21:12.46 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:12.52 | MN | so cotulla how is work on the bootloader going and is bootloader similar to spl? |
| 21:12.54 | [acl] | ahh thats a good one |
| 21:12.57 | en1gma | it will be done when its done? |
| 21:12.59 | MN | sorry for the qs |
| 21:13.24 | WisTilt2 | [acl] you really giving up on the 3d stuff or i read that wrong? |
| 21:13.39 | [acl] | WisTilt2: nahh.. just taking a vacation next week .. |
| 21:13.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: what do you think is the way to write to dbgfs from android app? i only think of executing a shell command like "su ; echo foo > bar" |
| 21:14.02 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: sounds like a phh question.. get to him before his busy season |
| 21:14.15 | phh | [acl]: lol ? |
| 21:14.17 | phh | that's java stuff |
| 21:14.18 | phh | not for me. |
| 21:14.42 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: either you set write permission to dbgfs so that no su is needed, or I don't know how to get root properly in java :p |
| 21:15.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | phh: are you sure dbgfs will allow me to set permissions? |
| 21:15.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh yes |
| 21:15.16 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: the permissions are set in source code ;) |
| 21:15.18 | phh | at least |
| 21:15.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | 777 will do |
| 21:15.27 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: 777 is our best friend |
| 21:15.43 | Cotulla | the best friend is kernel hack :P |
| 21:15.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | sound like a security hole |
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| 21:16.12 | [acl] | Alex[sp3dev]: this is work in progress |
| 21:16.13 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:16.33 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: A LOT of things are already 777 in our hacks |
| 21:16.34 | phh | don't worry. |
| 21:16.43 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: damn, i'll have to reboot my phone |
| 21:16.53 | phh | I'll do a xdandroid brick virus another day. |
| 21:19.08 | Cotulla | and then users will brick u |
| 21:19.09 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:19.17 | [acl] | WisTilt2: are you documentiing your progress anywhere? |
| 21:20.30 | WisTilt2 | [acl] only here on paper on our task list |
| 21:20.58 | WisTilt2 | and commenting code of course |
| 21:21.08 | fakker | :) |
| 21:21.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | music player in xdandroid sucks. it doesn't like my u2 and rise against music. mixzing plays just fine |
| 21:21.24 | fakker | rise against |
| 21:21.31 | fakker | i havent listened to them in some time |
| 21:21.38 | gauner1986 | yay |
| 21:21.46 | fakker | note to self for drive to work |
| 21:21.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | you must listen to them every day, no? |
| 21:21.52 | fakker | hah |
| 21:22.00 | fakker | i didnt like the last album |
| 21:22.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | i did |
| 21:22.46 | fakker | was it the unraveling? |
| 21:22.48 | [acl] | WisTilt2: can you update the wikki ? |
| 21:22.50 | fakker | or theyve done another since |
| 21:22.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | no lol |
| 21:23.01 | fakker | :) |
| 21:23.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | that was appeal to reason |
| 21:23.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | in 2008 |
| 21:23.14 | fakker | aha |
| 21:23.37 | fakker | RPM/sirens of counter cult/sufferer and witness i like |
| 21:23.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, the classic ones |
| 21:24.07 | WisTilt2 | [acl] ?? |
| 21:25.29 | fakker | i used to listen to sirens of counter cult every day pretty much |
| 21:25.50 | Alex[sp3dev] | i used to listen to some songs every day, yeah |
| 21:25.56 | [acl] | WisTilt2: our wiki.. we have alot of info missing.. so if you have the info already .. just add it |
| 21:26.16 | WisTilt2 | info missing on what? |
| 21:26.32 | fakker | Alex[sp3dev], have you tried using dtunes for droid? |
| 21:26.41 | fakker | btunes |
| 21:26.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | fakker: no |
| 21:26.42 | fakker | even |
| 21:26.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | fakker: mixzing is btunes |
| 21:26.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | or no |
| 21:26.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | no |
| 21:26.54 | [acl] | WisTilt2: everything.. |
| 21:27.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | i have tried and it sucked |
| 21:27.03 | fakker | btunes = apple rip |
| 21:27.16 | fakker | really? heh works fine for my use |
| 21:27.57 | WisTilt2 | [acl] everything sounds like a lot! what is url to wiki so i can see what you're talking about. |
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| 21:29.48 | dcordes | what is the legal situation about distributing firmware like bcm4329.ko ? |
| 21:30.03 | dcordes | will broadcom force me down like QCT Inc ? |
| 21:30.06 | dcordes | if I upload it |
| 21:30.13 | Cotulla | QCT down u already? |
| 21:30.34 | Cotulla | there also YAMATO FW |
| 21:31.11 | dcordes | which we hardcoded in git |
| 21:31.14 | dcordes | lol |
| 21:31.16 | [acl] | WisTilt2: http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page |
| 21:31.18 | dcordes | didn't think about that |
| 21:31.23 | Cotulla | lol |
| 21:31.27 | Cotulla | I hardcoded it |
| 21:31.29 | Cotulla | :P |
| 21:31.36 | dcordes | Cotulla: yes. sorry sir. |
| 21:31.43 | Cotulla | no, I thought |
| 21:31.49 | Cotulla | that u will revert it back |
| 21:33.08 | WisTilt2 | [acl] still not getting what you're talking about updating? |
| 21:33.15 | gauner1986 | hardcoded firmware is nice |
| 21:33.16 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 21:33.27 | dcordes | gauner1986: wifi seems to work for me |
| 21:33.36 | dcordes | gauner1986: it's correct _cm needs the two firmwares ? |
| 21:33.48 | Cass | yes |
| 21:33.50 | gauner1986 | dcordes: one for tether and one for normal operation |
| 21:33.54 | dcordes | good |
| 21:33.55 | Cass | ap wont connect in user mode |
| 21:34.24 | dcordes | I need to test ap now |
| 21:34.34 | gauner1986 | *curious* |
| 21:35.11 | dcordes | let's hardcode bcm*.bin |
| 21:35.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | partyvan is coming for you |
| 21:35.39 | Cotulla | dcordes, why hardcode? |
| 21:36.11 | [acl] | WisTilt2: lol.. go to the rhod or topaz section.. very little info |
| 21:36.19 | [acl] | compare it to the Leo section for example |
| 21:36.22 | gauner1986 | cotulla: for lazyness? |
| 21:36.24 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 21:36.33 | Cotulla | but it's unknown which license have this code |
| 21:36.45 | Cotulla | maybe it's not allowed to include into kernel :P |
| 21:36.46 | gauner1986 | it was just lying around.. |
| 21:36.49 | gauner1986 | so it's ours!!!! |
| 21:36.49 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 21:37.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | your as is just walking around |
| 21:37.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | so it's theirs |
| 21:37.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | s/as/ass/ |
| 21:37.20 | dcordes | let's install nk.exe in git as well |
| 21:37.42 | dcordes | apt: do you want a windows kernel to be included with you ? |
| 21:37.42 | apt | yes, I want a windows kernel to be included with you. |
| 21:37.43 | Cotulla | u want to break license O_o? |
| 21:38.03 | dcordes | yes. sue-me Monday |
| 21:38.12 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 21:38.25 | dcordes | lol |
| 21:39.08 | Cotulla | so u prevent other ppl from breaking licenses while u can do it? |
| 21:39.19 | dcordes | so what is the magic line to bring up bcm4329.ko in working AP mode ? fw_path= , ... ? |
| 21:39.25 | gauner1986 | lol @alex |
| 21:39.40 | Cass | ko is not fw |
| 21:39.40 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:39.49 | Cotulla | yes |
| 21:39.52 | Cotulla | ko is ko |
| 21:39.57 | Cass | knock out :p |
| 21:39.59 | WisTilt2 | [acl] ah, you talking about gpio rhodium needs to be created since no info for it gpio wise. |
| 21:40.09 | darkstone | hi guys, is there something specific i need to do in order to get PPP working? |
| 21:40.12 | dcordes | Cass: do you have the modprobe line from known working wifi tether program ? |
| 21:40.13 | Cass | dcordes, no clue abt ubuntu |
| 21:40.15 | Cotulla | WisTilt2, maybe he wanted GPU regs :P |
| 21:40.18 | darkstone | i've been out of the loop |
| 21:40.26 | gauner1986 | darkstone: yes ;) |
| 21:40.29 | dcordes | Cass: or insmod. |
| 21:40.33 | darkstone | :o |
| 21:40.39 | darkstone | care to share? |
| 21:40.53 | gauner1986 | but dont have time to explain now |
| 21:40.53 | gauner1986 | gotta go |
| 21:40.53 | darkstone | D: |
| 21:40.53 | gauner1986 | tomorrow |
| 21:40.53 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 21:40.53 | darkstone | xD |
| 21:40.53 | Cass | dcordes, insmod bcm4329.ko |
| 21:40.53 | Cotulla | bb |
| 21:40.53 | gauner1986 | or ask cass |
| 21:40.53 | dcordes | gauner1986: 10GBP and I tell you |
| 21:40.58 | darkstone | ok, cya then :p |
| 21:40.58 | Cass | the fw path is hardcoded in in kernel ... |
| 21:41.01 | gauner1986 | dcordes: lol |
| 21:41.10 | Cass | the wifi tether program i gave you the other day has the code |
| 21:41.13 | gauner1986 | dcordes: well.. you gotta make that business with darkstone now |
| 21:41.13 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 21:41.14 | [acl] | WisTilt2: yes.. :-) . |
| 21:41.16 | dcordes | Cass: station fw path is. |
| 21:41.21 | darkstone | oh noes |
| 21:41.28 | Cass | dcordes, lemme look |
| 21:42.10 | Quier | hi dcordes i'm from mega section (xda) |
| 21:42.25 | dcordes | Quier: hi |
| 21:42.35 | dcordes | Quier: you want to test a kernel ? |
| 21:42.39 | Quier | i can |
| 21:42.52 | dcordes | Quier: ok ~15 mins I upload a test.zip for you |
| 21:43.01 | dcordes | Quier: glad somebody found the way here |
| 21:43.02 | Quier | ok |
| 21:43.06 | Quier | np |
| 21:43.08 | dcordes | Quier: have you seen the wiki link ? |
| 21:43.34 | Quier | yes but it was abt 5 days ago |
| 21:43.48 | dcordes | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Mega it doesn't have much |
| 21:43.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | [acl]: look what i've made http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7365/20100831014127480x800sc.png |
| 21:44.01 | darkstone | hm nvm |
| 21:44.03 | dcordes | Quier: what we will do is we will try to boot the stock tattoo kernel on your mega |
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| 21:44.11 | WisTilt2 | [acl] when my guy thats mapping gpios is done ill get you the list of what he found for rhodium to put up there. |
| 21:44.12 | Cass | dcordes, insmod("/system/lib/modules |
| 21:44.13 | darkstone | ppp seems to be functioning now after aeroplane mode on/off |
| 21:44.15 | Cass | bah |
| 21:44.18 | dcordes | darkstone: ~leo-android |
| 21:44.24 | dcordes | ~leo-android |
| 21:44.24 | apt | hmm... leo-android is http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Android |
| 21:44.31 | Cass | dcordes insmod("/system/lib/modules |
| 21:44.33 | Cass | fuck |
| 21:44.37 | Cass | cut paste wonky |
| 21:44.51 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: lol nice |
| 21:44.53 | darkstone | hm |
| 21:44.57 | Quier | dcordes: we've tried to boot it from stock tattoo's kenel (compiled from developers.htc.com source) |
| 21:44.58 | darkstone | dns isnt working??? |
| 21:45.10 | Cass | dcordes, insmod path_to_ko firmware_path=path_to_formware |
| 21:45.14 | dcordes | Quier: yes did it work ? |
| 21:45.24 | Quier | no |
| 21:45.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | why would it work |
| 21:45.41 | dcordes | Quier: did you put the correct machine type ? |
| 21:45.45 | Alex[sp3dev] | tattoo has different amss, and proc_comm |
| 21:45.52 | dcordes | Quier: pastebin your default.txt please |
| 21:45.54 | gauner1986 | cotulla: btw. did you see markinus work on porting code to evo kernel? |
| 21:46.02 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: luck ? |
| 21:46.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | why not try diam kernel and fix panel resolution? |
| 21:46.13 | darkstone | bah |
| 21:46.16 | darkstone | reboots phone |
| 21:46.18 | Quier | dcordes: i think we don't put wright mtype due to lacks in knowlegde |
| 21:46.44 | dcordes | Quier: downloading tattoo kernel |
| 21:46.48 | Cotulla | heh nice app Alex |
| 21:46.53 | Quier | dcordes: i tried to boot it with htc universal 1316 mtype |
| 21:47.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | Cotulla: i am still working. will make it user-friendly tomorrow. lol |
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| 21:48.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok fellows. gotta go. |
| 21:49.49 | Cotulla | User friendly RPC caller. Only today 9.99$ |
| 21:49.54 | Cotulla | :D |
| 21:52.24 | dcordes | Quier: do you have the code locally ? |
| 21:52.37 | Quier | dcordes: which? |
| 21:53.13 | HardDisk_WP | Oi |
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| 21:53.24 | dcordes | Quier: http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/click-656120.tar.gz |
| 21:53.44 | dcordes | Quier: official tattoo kernel source code |
| 21:53.47 | Quier | no i don't |
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| 21:54.11 | Quier | i had it on virtual machine but i formatted my disk 2 days ago |
| 21:54.12 | dcordes | Quier: do you have linux computer ? |
| 21:54.30 | Quier | unfortunately no |
| 21:55.21 | dcordes | Cass: right.. I looked at that project website you refered me to |
| 21:55.36 | dcordes | Cass: but couldn't find the magic lines |
| 21:55.53 | dcordes | < Cass> dcordes, insmod path_to_ko firmware_path=path_to_formware |
| 21:56.03 | dcordes | Cass: that's all it does ? only specifying the fw ? |
| 21:56.27 | Cass | yep |
| 21:56.30 | dcordes | Quier: ok it will take a while until it's done |
| 21:56.40 | Cass | its in the tether_edify script |
| 21:56.42 | dcordes | Cass: cool that measn you can set the master interface channel dynamically ? |
| 21:56.49 | Quier | dcordes: no problem |
| 21:56.58 | Cass | dcordes, with iwconfig id presume yes |
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| 21:57.07 | dcordes | Cass: aight trying it |
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| 21:57.46 | MN | Cotulla quick question are you moving to the evo tree? |
| 21:57.59 | dcordes | haha |
| 21:58.05 | dcordes | love that guy |
| 21:58.16 | Cass | dcordes, looking at the tether code they do use iwconfig to set channel |
| 21:59.14 | Cotulla | MN, I am doing somethign strange and awful |
| 21:59.20 | Cotulla | O_o |
| 21:59.31 | Cass | gone |
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| 22:01.39 | Cass | mmcblk0p1 == first partition on sdcard or is it 0 ? |
| 22:02.30 | dcordes | Cass: :D I love that driver ! |
| 22:02.34 | Cass | :) |
| 22:06.56 | dcordes | awesomeness |
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| 22:15.44 | [acl] | haha.. |
| 22:16.02 | [acl] | changed my coworkers chime from "droid" to "HOMO" |
| 22:16.08 | [acl] | lol ahh .. that was fun |
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| 22:20.02 | dcordes | git reset --soft HEAD^ |
| 22:20.08 | dcordes | useful when local commit went wrong |
| 22:20.24 | Cass | whats the diff between that and --hard ? |
| 22:20.59 | Cass | does not undo all changes ? |
| 22:21.48 | Cass | ahh forgot something in the last commit |
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| 22:23.07 | Quier | dcordes, have u done it? |
| 22:23.29 | dcordes | Quier: 42% [=================> ] 32.084.048 5,16K/s ETA 39m 11s |
| 22:23.42 | Quier | 5.16 kb?! |
| 22:23.46 | dcordes | mhmmm |
| 22:23.52 | Quier | why so slow? |
| 22:23.56 | dcordes | shrugs |
| 22:24.51 | Quier | ur downloading from htc developer? |
| 22:25.07 | dcordes | yyep |
| 22:25.25 | dcordes | that's how important open source is to them |
| 22:25.50 | dcordes | they love us |
| 22:25.51 | Quier | yep, i've got 37 kb/s |
| 22:26.04 | Quier | oh, wait |
| 22:26.08 | dcordes | haha |
| 22:26.10 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: > 1283206861 +0200 htc-msm-2.6.32 * rv2.6.29-38169-g26c6697 / (168 files in 10 dirs): |
| 22:26.11 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: net: bcm4329 driver with working master (AP) mode, |
| 22:26.11 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: remove supersonic bcm4329, fix hardcoded MAC problem, |
| 22:26.11 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: update defconfigs. |
| 22:26.11 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: This enables wifi tethering. |
| 22:26.11 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: For instructions and information on firmware see |
| 22:26.12 | CIA-109 | htc-linux: http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=LeoWifi |
| 22:26.18 | dcordes | Quier: dropped ? |
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| 22:27.13 | dan1j3l | hi |
| 22:27.35 | Cass | hello |
| 22:27.39 | Quier | at xda froum some guy compiled it |
| 22:28.32 | Quier | http://www.multiupload.com/PEF112TP9Z |
| 22:28.40 | Quier | this is a link to download it |
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| 22:29.05 | Quier | and don't know is that compiled correctly |
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| 22:36.18 | Quier | dcordes what's the download progress? |
| 22:36.20 | dcordes | Quier: we will roll our own |
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| 22:36.44 | Quier | i found out how to get it quicker ^^ |
| 22:36.52 | dcordes | Quier: I think it will take around an hour to complete. not going to happen today |
| 22:36.56 | dcordes | for me |
| 22:37.00 | dcordes | Quier: hehe how ? |
| 22:37.03 | Quier | http://bind2.com/browse.php?u=Oi8vZGV2ZWxvcGVyLmh0Yy5jb20%3D&b=5&f=norefer |
| 22:37.50 | Quier | or try to get the site through bind2.com |
| 22:38.08 | Quier | click option and uncheck remove scripts |
| 22:39.39 | Quier | dcordes where r u come from? |
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| 22:43.16 | dcordes | Quier: Germany. |
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| 22:43.31 | Quier | I'm from Poland : 0 |
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| 22:43.45 | Quier | so same time zone : ) |
| 22:43.48 | Quier | at least |
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| 22:44.14 | Quier | most of the people r from USA a that time zones r terrible |
| 22:49.53 | pespin_ | dcordes, hi, it's me (htc artemis + shr) another time! :) |
| 22:50.09 | pespin_ | dcordes, I'm having problems adding the g_ether.ko in the image |
| 22:50.24 | pespin_ | dcordes, here's the modified wing-linux recipe I'm using: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/256473/ |
| 22:50.46 | pespin_ | I can paste you htcherald.conf if you wish :) |
| 22:51.40 | pespin_ | my /lib/modules dir is empty :S |
| 22:52.20 | Quier | ok i'll go slepp |
| 22:52.27 | Quier | cya all |
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| 22:53.28 | ali1234 | pespin_: #wing-linux |
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| 22:58.50 | dcordes | pespin_: what did you modify ? |
| 23:01.39 | pespin_ | dcordes, removed the do_configure() {make ARCH=${ARCH} omap_android_850_defconfig } |
| 23:02.13 | pespin_ | took the defconfig and put it in the recipe. and then require linux.inc like I saw in om-gta02 |
| 23:02.26 | pespin_ | which I saw was setting some usbgadged stuff to Y |
| 23:03.12 | pespin_ | dcordes, ali1234 is telling my it's built in the kernel |
| 23:03.25 | dcordes | pespin_: yeah let's discuss it in #wing-linux |
| 23:03.29 | pespin_ | dcordes, ok |
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| 23:09.20 | HardDisk_WP | dcordes, who's the admin of the wiki? |
| 23:10.01 | HardDisk_WP | dcordes, can you pls tell him to put $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_MAIN] = true; in localsettings.php? |
| 23:10.25 | HardDisk_WP | this way stuff like [[Leo/xyz]] gets recognized as subpage+ |
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| 23:11.03 | HardDisk_WP | [[Leo]] |
| 23:11.03 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo |
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| 23:13.50 | dcordes | cyanogen: how do you distribute the wifi firmware ? |
| 23:14.16 | dcordes | HardDisk_WP: NetRipper, tmzt, me currently |
| 23:14.25 | HardDisk_WP | ah kk |
| 23:14.30 | dcordes | and ali1234 I think :> |
| 23:14.32 | HardDisk_WP | what d' you think of the bot? |
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| 23:15.06 | dcordes | HardDisk_WP: what bot |
| 23:15.10 | HardDisk_WP | unilinky, |
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| 23:16.22 | dcordes | HardDisk_WP: sorry ? |
| 23:16.36 | HardDisk_WP | dcordes, unilinky is an irc bot which automatically expands [[wikilink]]s |
| 23:16.36 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=wikilink |
| 23:16.55 | dcordes | checking it out |
| 23:16.57 | HardDisk_WP | comes from the wikipedia world, mighta be something for this channel I thought |
| 23:17.22 | dcordes | yeah that would be nice indeed |
| 23:17.30 | jonpry | [[RaphaelMicroP]] |
| 23:17.31 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=RaphaelMicroP |
| 23:17.45 | dcordes | [[Leo/UpdateKernel]] |
| 23:17.45 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/UpdateKernel |
| 23:17.49 | dcordes | unilinky: I love you |
| 23:17.59 | dcordes | HardDisk_WP: thanks a real nice idea |
| 23:18.11 | HardDisk_WP | np |
| 23:18.19 | jonpry | hmm. so [[thisdoesnotexist]] |
| 23:18.19 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=thisdoesnotexist |
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| 23:18.33 | HardDisk_WP | yeah, it doesn't check currently if the target exists |
| 23:18.48 | HardDisk_WP | most channels prefer this, as it makes possible to link to deleted articles |
| 23:19.27 | dcordes | yeah seems useful |
| 23:19.39 | dcordes | on the other hand if we make many typos there's lots of spam |
| 23:20.02 | dcordes | or people will accidentally start creating duplicates .. but for me it's ok you decide |
| 23:20.17 | HardDisk_WP | for me it doesn't make any difference if it runs or not |
| 23:20.20 | HardDisk_WP | the only thing... |
| 23:20.22 | HardDisk_WP | !seen test |
| 23:20.31 | HardDisk_WP | ok, there's no other bot for this function yet |
| 23:20.44 | jonpry | ~seen test |
| 23:20.54 | apt | test <~chatzilla@41.146.194-77.rev.gaoland.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 19d 11h 26m 38s ago, saying: 'Any idea ?'. |
| 23:21.05 | HardDisk_WP | ah, the ~ is your bot's commandline |
| 23:21.32 | dcordes | HardDisk_WP: what do you think about wiki version bump ? |
| 23:21.42 | dcordes | HardDisk_WP: you seem to know lots about mediawiki |
| 23:21.52 | HardDisk_WP | lemme see what version you run |
| 23:22.21 | HardDisk_WP | oh shit |
| 23:22.26 | HardDisk_WP | dont tell me you never patched it |
| 23:22.40 | dcordes | lol |
| 23:22.47 | HardDisk_WP | this is 1.14, aged ~2 years |
| 23:22.56 | HardDisk_WP | i'm actually surprised it didnt get hacked till now |
| 23:23.03 | dcordes | well it did |
| 23:23.10 | dcordes | there are tons of dead user accounts |
| 23:23.22 | HardDisk_WP | Oh :D |
| 23:23.37 | HardDisk_WP | where's it hosted? some freespace provider, dedicated server or payspace? |
| 23:23.46 | dcordes | bots are able to create users and then spam as registered people don't need to beat the captcha |
| 23:24.50 | spanner3003 | hi |
| 23:25.40 | HardDisk_WP | hi spanner3003 |
| 23:26.37 | spanner3003 | lol just checking i had my nick back |
| 23:45.09 | dcordes | [[Leo/Wifi]] |
| 23:45.09 | unilinky | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Wifi |
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| 23:48.31 | jonpry | WoZZeR: yo |
| 23:48.37 | WoZZeR | jonpry: yo |
| 23:48.53 | jonpry | whats up? still phone call time? |
| 23:49.17 | WoZZeR | I had an interview today, but it should be past the phone time |
| 23:49.32 | jonpry | another electronics marketing? |
| 23:50.03 | WoZZeR | yeah, market research |
| 23:50.08 | WoZZeR | same company |
| 23:50.12 | WoZZeR | 3rd interview |
| 23:50.16 | WoZZeR | sounds like they want me |
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| 23:50.31 | jonpry | oh. thats good |
| 23:50.45 | WoZZeR | a bit lower pay, but it should be a really fun job |
| 23:50.58 | WoZZeR | I get to work with the efficiency team |
| 23:51.02 | WoZZeR | which is a special group |
| 23:51.25 | jonpry | is that like small overworked team? |
| 23:51.35 | jonpry | j/k |
| 23:51.35 | Cass | dcordes, typo on the wiki under ap mode modrpobe |
| 23:51.37 | WoZZeR | not overworked, hopefully |
| 23:51.46 | WoZZeR | acl's clocks broke mmc |
| 23:52.17 | WoZZeR | jonpry: msm_clk_rpc_connect(); |
| 23:52.21 | WoZZeR | any idea about that function? |
| 23:52.24 | WoZZeR | can't find it |
| 23:53.11 | jonpry | wozzer, so i have some more ideas for sound. msm_clk_rpc_connect is probably msm_rpc_connect wrapped to open the correct channel for clocks |
| 23:53.20 | jonpry | probably missing a file. |
| 23:53.42 | jonpry | anywho, i think we should switch to haret boots with imagedev |
| 23:53.49 | WoZZeR | ok |
| 23:53.53 | WoZZeR | gotta reflash windows |
| 23:54.21 | jonpry | k |
| 23:56.38 | jonpry | first i want to make sure the new microp and audio didn't make the haret sound start working. then we will try to mmutrace ever more stuff. gpio,clks,smem are on the list |
| 23:56.48 | jonpry | there is no stopping us now |
| 23:57.00 | WoZZeR | lol |
| 23:57.06 | WoZZeR | we had sound yesterday |
| 23:57.10 | WoZZeR | so it's not far away |
| 23:57.37 | jonpry | that how i see it. |
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| 23:59.50 | WoZZeR | ever figure out why the waveout snd crashed your little program? |
