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| 00:16.50 | vpeezy | hi folks. |
| 00:17.57 | vpeezy | i read a post on xda forums that talked about boosting signal for better call quality. i have a touch pro 2 from verizon and i'm confused on whether i can download a radio? or if this update even exists for my phone. |
| 00:18.34 | vpeezy | oops wrong chat. i don't think it will work on xda droid project. |
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| 01:46.21 | sovereignty | neone know where to get ossvcs.dll? Can't copy from device 'cause access is denied. guess it's locked... |
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| 02:30.44 | NeoMatrixJR | can anyone suggest a minimum hard drive space for an android development/build box? |
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| 02:57.28 | swc|666 | 64kb |
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| 04:10.57 | moishaspb | dan1j3l can you explain how did you managed to boot 2.6.29 kernel from mocha.cupcake for qsd8650 on Leo ? did you patched the tree or just added htcleo files ? |
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| 06:45.02 | Knifey | So is there anything special I have to do to run the cab installer on my Tilt2? |
| 06:45.21 | Knifey | For Android that is, all of them just say "Installation was unsuccessful" |
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| 08:36.42 | danibjor | morning |
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| 08:42.15 | NetRipper | morni |
| 08:42.21 | NetRipper | ng |
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| 08:55.00 | danibjor | does htc-linux.org work for you guy's? |
| 08:55.06 | danibjor | looks like it's down :S |
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| 09:12.31 | NetRipper | danibjor, works here |
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| 15:22.10 | [Oli] | hey everybody ..i follow the thread about developing linux kernel for htc hd2.. i have some questions about it... |
| 15:23.36 | [Oli] | the actually kernel wont work because the processor doesn´t could work with some code.. right ? |
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| 15:40.37 | dan1j3l | hi all... |
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| 16:25.06 | [acl] | wow i just saw a video of a fake htc leo.. looks like those bad boys are popping up left and right |
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| 17:46.20 | phh | hey HD2 people |
| 17:46.27 | phh | what's the 8250 VS 8250A theory again ? |
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| 18:11.18 | [acl] | phh: dont tell me you are getting an hd2 .. |
| 18:11.29 | phh | no i'm not |
| 18:12.11 | [acl] | you saw those fake knocks offs that are out there? |
| 18:13.33 | [acl] | phh: they look tempting http://www.clonedinchina.com/2010/06/video-htc-hd2-knockoff-phone-features-a-4-3-inch-display.html |
| 18:14.31 | phh | [acl]: won't have 3G :( |
| 18:15.07 | [acl] | wtf is that " 533MHz Huawei Hisilicon K3 chip" |
| 18:15.21 | phh | no clue |
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| 18:36.39 | redman | My 3g is not working |
| 18:36.59 | redman | any help? |
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| 18:41.13 | [acl] | omg i think ive been reading these logs all wrong. .. |
| 18:44.52 | obrienmd_sea | [acl]: as in OMG presto! or OMG fail? |
| 18:46.28 | [acl] | more like "omg im a moron" |
| 18:46.41 | obrienmd_sea | hrm, so the latter :) |
| 18:47.05 | [acl] | when i look at these haret dumps in a binary viewer. Nothing matches to what haret shows |
| 18:47.11 | [acl] | so ive never been able to find anything |
| 18:47.33 | obrienmd_sea | ah |
| 18:47.34 | obrienmd_sea | I see |
| 18:49.30 | [acl] | phh: ok so when i search for crap on these haret dumps. Whats the best way to view it? i mean i was trying to search for 30000f like we talked about the other day. |
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| 19:30.05 | dan1j3l | hi LeTama... |
| 19:34.15 | moishaspb | dan1j3l can you explain how did you managed to boot 2.6.29 kernel from mocha.cupcake for qsd8650 on Leo ? did you patched the tree or just added htcleo files ? |
| 19:34.32 | tmzt | 00:10 < moishaspb> dan1j3l can you explain how did you managed to boot 2.6.29 kernel from mocha.cupcake for qsd8650 on Leo ? did you patched the tree or just added htcleo files ? |
| 19:34.40 | LeTama | Hi dan1j3l |
| 19:34.49 | tmzt | moishaspb: ah, you're back |
| 19:34.54 | tmzt | wanted to make sure he saw that |
| 19:34.59 | moishaspb | thnx |
| 19:36.02 | dan1j3l | moishaspb: i didn't boot kernel from mocha.cupcake... i am using mocha.cupcake only for rootfs... |
| 19:36.21 | moishaspb | dan1j3l: ahhh |
| 19:36.41 | moishaspb | dan1j3l: cool. just wanted to make sure it's not me :-) |
| 19:37.10 | dan1j3l | today i finally managed to compile custom bin that worked without crashing kernel... |
| 19:38.14 | moishaspb | nice |
| 19:39.03 | dan1j3l | it's only basic helloworld with few functions and loops, but it worked... |
| 19:39.32 | moishaspb | dan1j3l: static ? |
| 19:39.57 | dan1j3l | no, dynamic with shared libs... |
| 19:40.42 | dan1j3l | now i'm trying to compile tiny android conf with same toolchain and flags... |
| 19:44.14 | moishaspb | I'm strugling with persistent 'ARM9 has CRASHED' |
| 19:45.33 | dan1j3l | moishaspb: which toolchain / flags did you use ? |
| 19:47.18 | moishaspb | :-) at this point i think all possible. gnash team 4.5, android. not sure if this is toolchain/flags at all |
| 19:48.19 | moishaspb | dan1j3l: maybe will do due dilligence tonight and will try codesourcey ... just in case |
| 19:54.13 | tmzt | maybe somebody should try the new ubuntu toolchain |
| 19:55.37 | tmzt | https://wiki.linaro.org/Toolchain/UbuntuRegressions |
| 19:55.45 | tmzt | don't see anything related to shared libraries here though |
| 19:57.03 | phh | [acl]: take care of endianness |
| 19:57.11 | phh | 3000....0f is in little endian |
| 19:57.11 | LeTama | tmzt: I don't think this is related to shared lib. The fact that it works is probably because less memory moves around. |
| 19:57.14 | phh | and the messages are big endian |
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| 19:57.36 | tmzt | LeTama: the only other thing I can think of is vDSO, but I don't understand how that works |
| 19:57.39 | LeTama | but we do have executables compiled with share libs that crashes |
| 19:58.01 | LeTama | vDSO ? |
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| 19:59.41 | LeTama | dan1j3l: nice to see that we share the same behavior |
| 20:00.09 | tmzt | hmm, try vdso=0 |
| 20:00.46 | tmzt | http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelGlossary#VDSO |
| 20:01.44 | LeTama | we do have this ? |
| 20:01.46 | moishaspb | just noticed - android 4.4 ld has this flag: " --[no-]fix-cortex-a8 Disable/enable Cortex-A8 Thumb-2 branch erratum fix" |
| 20:01.54 | dan1j3l | LeTama: yes it is, but it's a bit frustrating... |
| 20:01.57 | moishaspb | 4.5 does not |
| 20:02.36 | tmzt | LeTama: it looks like it's not enabled on arm yet but I can't find a mailing list or anything on it |
| 20:02.38 | dan1j3l | i have feeling that we are so close... |
| 20:02.54 | tmzt | essentially it's a way to map kernel code into userspace to allow for faster syscalls |
| 20:03.38 | LeTama | moishaspb: I tried this flag a bit, it didn't change much |
| 20:04.35 | LeTama | dan1j3l: same here, but this last bit is really hard to catch, at least for me |
| 20:05.09 | phh | [acl]: who is this "binarydroid" people are talking about in forums ? |
| 20:05.35 | [acl] | phh: thats the dood who took apart the tp2 to get that jtag mumbo jumbo doner |
| 20:05.42 | phh | ok |
| 20:05.42 | [acl] | *done |
| 20:05.50 | phh | but people are saying he has good understanding of the code, is that true ? |
| 20:05.59 | dan1j3l | LeTama: i know... like it's something so obvious... |
| 20:06.08 | [acl] | phh: Never seen him post one thing baout code. So i wouldnt know |
| 20:06.13 | phh | [acl]: ok |
| 20:06.39 | [acl] | phh: i think its all hopes at this stage. Desperately hoping someone will fix sound :-\ |
| 20:11.18 | LeTama | tmzt: hum, ok. Not sure it could help though. |
| 20:15.44 | tmzt | LeTama: right, my understanding is it's only used in dynamic executables so I think it could be a difference between the two, but it doesn't seem to be used on arm at this time |
| 20:16.15 | moishaspb | dan1j3l: so you are working off the htc-msm-2.6.32 branch ? |
| 20:18.37 | dan1j3l | moishaspb: no, i'm working on this branch... just experimenting with different builds of rootfs... |
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| 20:21.00 | [acl] | phh: to get around the endianess, can i just search for this stuff backwards. like 02000030 441a2baa 03000000 00000000 <--- would be 03000020 |
| 20:21.16 | phh | [acl]: yup |
| 20:21.21 | phh | (this one is sound) |
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| 20:25.16 | phh | [acl]: you're looking for 3000..0f calls I think |
| 20:26.44 | [acl] | phh: yup. Where did you read about this binarydroid? i didnt know there was so much buzz about it. |
| 20:26.59 | phh | [acl]: reefermattness' thread |
| 20:38.56 | sovereignty | damn...reefer's thread is getting flooded |
| 20:39.08 | phh | not at all. |
| 20:39.35 | phh | one noob make ~ 5 messages in a row once a day. |
| 20:40.12 | sovereignty | ugh...have you looked at it recently? I popped my head in there and this one guy has dedicate his entire first 12 posts on XDA forum to argue with everyone...sux |
| 20:40.32 | [acl] | wasnt me was it ? :-p |
| 20:40.40 | sovereignty | lmfao |
| 20:41.00 | sovereignty | go read it if you are bored...which i'm sure you have better things to do |
| 20:41.16 | sovereignty | no, not you [acl] |
| 20:41.27 | dan1j3l | LeTama: is it qsd8250 little-endian or big-endian ? |
| 20:41.40 | sovereignty | the chief...lol |
| 20:41.41 | phh | sovereignty: and it's the guy who doesn't know how to format a text no ? |
| 20:41.44 | phh | dan1j3l: little |
| 20:41.47 | phh | dan1j3l: well multiple |
| 20:41.56 | phh | sovereignty: ah, I thouoght you meant dedesomething |
| 20:42.06 | sovereignty | phh: no |
| 20:42.22 | sovereignty | phh: it's obvious in the last around 3 pages |
| 20:43.06 | sovereignty | lol...i always got a kick out of the endian thing |
| 20:43.58 | dan1j3l | phh: maybe we are missing something with little / big endian memory usage... |
| 20:44.27 | phh | dan1j3l: sounds unlikely to me |
| 20:44.36 | phh | both wimo, haret and linux are little endian |
| 20:44.49 | sovereignty | phh: he/she made one long post wondering why nobody is working on or how lone it will be for sound/gp accel, etc |
| 20:45.32 | sovereignty | the sun god have cursed the endians...sorry, i'm in one of those moods... |
| 20:46.31 | sovereignty | lone=long |
| 20:47.38 | [acl] | sovereignty: whats this post agian? i wanna read it ? |
| 20:47.46 | sovereignty | lemme see |
| 20:48.33 | sovereignty | the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6848109&postcount=4336 |
| 20:48.47 | sovereignty | the page in the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997&page=434 |
| 20:49.22 | sovereignty | and he's been arguing ever since...only has about 12 posts on his account so far and i think all in Reffer's thread |
| 20:50.21 | [acl] | wow im in that post |
| 20:50.22 | [acl] | lol |
| 20:50.33 | sovereignty | very pesimistic person |
| 20:50.38 | [acl] | "According to ACL, there is currently no one actively working on the OpenGL/3d accelleration and Sound" |
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| 20:50.58 | [acl] | yes i did say that but to motivate people to get involved. grrr.. |
| 20:51.00 | sovereignty | [acl]: i thought that was particularly interestin |
| 20:51.09 | sovereignty | interesting |
| 20:51.50 | sovereignty | i basically said later that it takes "time and money" to do these things |
| 20:52.06 | sovereignty | has anyone got a donation from him/her? |
| 20:52.32 | [acl] | wow my name is being thrown around like toilet paper |
| 20:52.54 | sovereignty | if i had the equipment i might be able to continue where binarydroid left off, but i don't have the resources |
| 20:53.07 | sovereignty | [acl]: lol...take it with a grain of sand |
| 20:53.17 | sovereignty | err something like that |
| 20:53.48 | sovereignty | i have a full lab set up here at my office |
| 20:54.26 | [acl] | its funny i say no one is working on 3d yet im bashing my brains against a brick wall trying to understand how it works. |
| 20:54.45 | sovereignty | [acl]: irony? |
| 20:55.23 | [acl] | i was just trying to motivate pepple to get involved. Shit.. last time i say something |
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| 20:55.58 | sovereignty | neone want to donate a rhodium and the JTAG debugger/software for ARM? |
| 20:56.42 | [acl] | i talked about this with Jonpry. No one donates |
| 20:57.06 | [acl] | plus there are guys in the Topaz forum who have access to that |
| 20:57.11 | [acl] | i messaged them but no reply |
| 20:57.47 | sovereignty | times are hard here, man...i have all the equipment here, but just not the hardware/software JTAG equipment |
| 20:57.47 | phh | sovereignty: I don't think JTAG would help |
| 20:57.54 | phh | we have awesome tools |
| 20:58.25 | phh | the stuff involved are imho way too complicated to be tracable properly in jtag |
| 20:58.37 | phh | but I don't really know what jtag is capable of, so i'm waiting |
| 20:59.02 | sovereignty | phh: it wouldn't hurt |
| 20:59.07 | sovereignty | either |
| 20:59.31 | phh | basically I already successfully traced and reverseenginneered everything I had doubts about |
| 20:59.31 | [acl] | We may need to really reach out to the topaz guys then and see if they can help. |
| 20:59.39 | sovereignty | it's a good tool for low-level debugging |
| 20:59.42 | phh | so it's something that I wouldn't expect to fail at all that fails |
| 20:59.49 | phh | so it's unlikely to be easily tracable. |
| 21:00.23 | sovereignty | phh: yeah, i have read that information |
| 21:02.50 | sovereignty | well, back to work...i gotta fix some stuff |
| 21:03.06 | sovereignty | not pertaining to smartphones... :P |
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| 21:18.19 | phh | if someone needs something to read to sleep, I tried to explain the ADSP problem here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6850129&postcount=4373 (directly go at the end.) |
| 21:18.44 | phh | (and if someone finds a mistake, you can tell me, but I'm not sure many people understand this code better than me :() |
| 21:18.51 | [acl] | phh: im reading this reeef thread. very entertaining |
| 21:21.08 | phh | [acl]: do you also feel the need to kill demandarin to stop him from flooding the forum ? |
| 21:21.18 | [acl] | no the other guy. Hexed |
| 21:21.26 | phh | ah. |
| 21:21.29 | [acl] | took what i said totally out of context |
| 21:21.30 | phh | on one page, he has 6 comments. |
| 21:21.45 | phh | posts* |
| 21:21.46 | [acl] | how on earth will he say no 3d dev work is being done if im he baboon here askign questions every day about it. |
| 21:21.59 | phh | [acl]: you can reply :p |
| 21:22.14 | [acl] | eff that. no need to waste bandwidth |
| 21:22.24 | phh | lol |
| 21:22.46 | phh | anyway, you can read my last post :p |
| 21:23.00 | [acl] | LOL you didnt defend me.. thanks man.. |
| 21:23.04 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:23.28 | phh | [acl]: I didn't say anything about 3D |
| 21:23.30 | phh | that's easier |
| 21:23.35 | phh | I don't understand the 3D situation at all |
| 21:23.40 | phh | so I prefer not talking about that :D |
| 21:24.06 | phh | [acl]: don't worry I have the same problems, people saying that I don't give a shit about sound, like I didn't for GPS |
| 21:24.13 | phh | (now GPS work, but they forgot what they said before.) |
| 21:24.22 | [acl] | cool |
| 21:24.29 | phh | I wish xda devs was really for devs. |
| 21:24.42 | [acl] | there should be an exam or something |
| 21:24.42 | [acl] | lol |
| 21:25.33 | phh | yup. |
| 21:26.48 | tmzt | phh: Okay, first, don't miss 3D GPU (3D hardware), and video acceleration(ADSP), it has no common stuff. (but perhaps the fix ) |
| 21:27.04 | tmzt | are you sure about that? the Qtv stuff is part of both parts |
| 21:27.16 | tmzt | at least mdp, maybe not gpu itself? |
| 21:27.34 | phh | mdp has nothing to do with 3D /o\ |
| 21:27.40 | phh | I'm not totally sure of the links between adsp and mdp |
| 21:27.42 | tmzt | ah, yeah |
| 21:27.46 | phh | but I think that it's the same, not related at all |
| 21:27.51 | phh | just that mdp can blit from ADSP and 3D memory |
| 21:27.58 | tmzt | mdp has to blit the output of aDSP |
| 21:28.00 | tmzt | yeah |
| 21:28.06 | phh | but mdp can read any memory |
| 21:28.12 | tmzt | something in 3d chip might be used for qTV scaling though |
| 21:28.18 | tmzt | even if aDSP is used for dct |
| 21:28.32 | phh | mdp can already do scaling |
| 21:28.38 | phh | but perhaps something else like noise something hum |
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| 21:29.01 | tmzt | there's some cool stuff in the new dri trees |
| 21:29.17 | phh | I'd need a msm7k android device to test that theory. |
| 21:29.17 | tmzt | I'm trying to put it together in a form we can use, but it doesn't really apply to 7k |
| 21:29.30 | tmzt | some of the ideas might though |
| 21:29.51 | phh | new dri trees ? |
| 21:30.00 | phh | something I'm not aware of ? |
| 21:30.18 | ToAsTcfh | phh: |
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| 21:30.21 | phh | ToAsTcfh: |
| 21:30.22 | ToAsTcfh | what up |
| 21:30.25 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 21:30.43 | ToAsTcfh | hey did u get my messages |
| 21:30.48 | phh | nothing clever |
| 21:31.19 | ToAsTcfh | liquid awesomeness? |
| 21:31.26 | phh | ToAsTcfh: na nothing there |
| 21:31.28 | phh | well, desire rom works |
| 21:31.32 | phh | but who cares. |
| 21:31.39 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 21:31.51 | ToAsTcfh | well i need some advice |
| 21:31.54 | ToAsTcfh | of course |
| 21:32.03 | phh | ToAsTcfh: what for ? |
| 21:32.07 | ToAsTcfh | my kernel issue |
| 21:32.13 | phh | your kernel issue ? |
| 21:32.39 | ToAsTcfh | the kernel only works on 0002 devices and not 0003 |
| 21:32.49 | phh | different mach id ? |
| 21:32.51 | phh | memory layout ? |
| 21:33.18 | ToAsTcfh | not sure yet. anyhow been trying to find a way to get something out of it |
| 21:33.32 | ToAsTcfh | its not even geving me a ramconsole |
| 21:33.40 | phh | wrong mach id then. |
| 21:33.47 | ToAsTcfh | mach id seems fine |
| 21:33.48 | phh | or memory layout -_-' |
| 21:34.44 | ToAsTcfh | cant tell from comparing ramconsoles from both devices |
| 21:35.11 | phh | ToAsTcfh: do you have a diff of the dmesg of the two device ? |
| 21:35.38 | ToAsTcfh | no just two last_kmsgs |
| 21:35.47 | ToAsTcfh | cant diff them |
| 21:35.55 | ToAsTcfh | times and stuff |
| 21:36.33 | phh | I mean from a running device |
| 21:36.36 | phh | not your kernel |
| 21:37.08 | phh | anyway, time to sleep |
| 21:37.11 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 21:37.17 | tmzt | This time, it's no longer RPC, it directly writes into ADSP register (called AD5 in the sources), through msm_adsp_write |
| 21:37.20 | tmzt | --- msm_adsp_write |
| 21:37.22 | ToAsTcfh | is there a way to dump the panic |
| 21:37.25 | tmzt | this writes directly into shared memory for adsp? |
| 21:37.33 | phh | ToAsTcfh: it has to panic to dump it :p |
| 21:37.39 | phh | tmzt: it's not a shared memory |
| 21:37.41 | phh | it's really adsp registers |
| 21:37.53 | ToAsTcfh | its rebooting |
| 21:38.03 | phh | ToAsTcfh: doesn't mean panic |
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| 21:38.33 | ToAsTcfh | maejrep stoped the rebooting by reversin the new panel code |
| 21:38.45 | ToAsTcfh | now it just hangs |
| 21:38.47 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 21:38.51 | ToAsTcfh | splash |
| 21:39.02 | ToAsTcfh | anyhow night man |
| 21:39.07 | Ondalf | oh hello. did comeback after server died dramatically couple of times because of HDD failure. |
| 21:39.16 | tmzt | ToAsTcfh: panic=0 |
| 21:39.20 | tmzt | to stop the reboot |
| 21:39.51 | ToAsTcfh | hmm to prove its panicing too |
| 21:40.23 | phh | [acl]: you don't seem to be defended btw, hexed made full apologize :p |
| 21:40.25 | ToAsTcfh | i wish i could find a way to get ramconsole up earlier |
| 21:40.50 | tmzt | isn't it already an earlycon |
| 21:40.52 | [acl] | phh: yeah i just saw. I'll reply to that .. |
| 21:41.00 | tmzt | what is the issue that you need ramconsole earlier |
| 21:41.18 | ToAsTcfh | tmzt so i can see whats happening |
| 21:42.09 | tmzt | but should the focus be pcm or 3d? which is likely to be harder? |
| 21:42.25 | tmzt | ToAsTcfh: so you can see what happening? |
| 21:43.25 | phh | tmzt: again, we're stucked for both |
| 21:43.49 | phh | could be a simple clock problem |
| 21:43.56 | phh | (even though I checked them 3 times) |
| 21:44.04 | phh | could be vregs |
| 21:44.06 | phh | (for both) |
| 21:44.15 | phh | I've just no clue what's actually wrong |
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| 21:44.40 | phh | you'd tell me it's because of solar flares, I would almost think it's a possibility :D |
| 21:44.48 | tmzt | can we dump vregs? |
| 21:44.58 | tmzt | not just the commands (pcom) but the vregs themselves |
| 21:45.08 | phh | AFAIK no |
| 21:45.26 | phh | we lack pmic docs basically |
| 21:45.43 | tmzt | can we get access to sbi? |
| 21:45.52 | tmzt | or is that protected somehow |
| 21:45.59 | phh | don't know |
| 21:46.38 | phh | anyway we don't have docs for pmic, so we wouldn't be able to use it ... |
| 21:46.43 | phh | now it's really time to sleep |
| 21:48.42 | tmzt | 7x30 kernel has sbi access to pmic |
| 21:48.43 | tmzt | good night |
| 21:51.29 | hamagc | goodnight phh |
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| 22:23.59 | dan1j3l | night everyone.... |
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| 23:08.27 | sovereignty | phh: interesting...maybe you've alreay noticed this...my wife just called me and said it is loud in my office. Everything is normal here except for the air conditioner running. must be that the A1010 is not even doing any kind of filtering on the mic, either. The main purpose of A1010 is for sound quality through the mic. I've never had a complaint about noise with the A/C running while in WM |
| 23:14.56 | sovereignty | neone have a simple way to pull a .dll file from windows that is locked by the OS? |
| 23:15.04 | sovereignty | windows mobile |
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