| 00:01.37 | stinebd | phh: if you're interested: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Import-msm7k-cpufreq-governor-from-heroc-kernel.patch |
| 00:03.56 | makkonen | hmm. tssc calibrate is a 570K app? is that from compiling it -static? |
| 00:04.16 | makkonen | that's not going to fit on the rootfs |
| 00:04.30 | makkonen | the rootfs image* |
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| 00:05.20 | cr2_ | hm. libjpeg8 |
| 00:06.26 | stinebd | makkonen: btw i haven't actually gotten dropbear to work yet. it's a matter of compiling it with android's libc. i forgot that even building static binary, there are passwd functions involved |
| 00:06.44 | stinebd | which will pull symbols from libc |
| 00:07.21 | MrPippy | makkonen: have you tried compiling it against android's libc? should be smaller |
| 00:09.04 | MrPippy | hmmm...i've disabled smd_7500 and am just using wifi, and it seems much more stable |
| 00:12.53 | MrPippy | yeah, wow. this is stable. i always had a bad feeling about smd_7500 ;-( |
| 00:13.20 | stinebd | MrPippy: what is this turbo mode stuff in the heroc kernel? it reminds me of those old compaq pentium computers with the turbo button |
| 00:13.59 | cr2_ | lol |
| 00:14.02 | Boydell_ | stinebd: I remember those! Holy crap. Did those just overclock the CPU? Or make the fan go faster? |
| 00:14.38 | MrPippy | it was to underclock the cpu for old apps that couldn't handle a >8 MHz cpu |
| 00:15.16 | stinebd | right, i should've said the unturbo button |
| 00:16.14 | MrPippy | heh nah you got it right, every case did say "TURBO" on it |
| 00:16.37 | Boydell_ | Ha. I only remember seeing it, never owned one. |
| 00:17.02 | stinebd | i used to use one as a router back in the day |
| 00:17.11 | stinebd | home router of course |
| 00:17.48 | Boydell_ | Wow, neat idea.. |
| 00:18.38 | MrPippy | yeah i haven't figured out what the heroc turbo mode is, the a11 is at 528 mhz either way, but it increases some other frequencies |
| 00:20.02 | MrPippy | the axi clk i think |
| 00:22.01 | bzo | here is some info on a winmo overclocking attempt: http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/08/Yet-more-notes-on-overclocking.aspx |
| 00:23.47 | dcordes | good night |
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| 00:42.21 | NetRipper | cr2_, ping, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623801 |
| 00:42.42 | NetRipper | cr2_, enabled 576mb ram by modifying radio? |
| 00:43.54 | MrPippy | emwe: kaiser on 2.6.25 (!!) uses 2 discontiguous banks (even though it only has 1 physical bank of ram) to avoid modem ram |
| 00:49.52 | MrPippy | NetRipper: does the a9/radio tell ce how much ram it can use? |
| 00:50.23 | NetRipper | MrPippy, i don't know |
| 00:50.44 | NetRipper | it might just be a reghack to some smem information |
| 00:50.49 | NetRipper | err |
| 00:51.00 | NetRipper | just a string patch i mean |
| 00:51.33 | NetRipper | i don't know where that htc tool gets its information from, if it's from a hardcoded string in the radio rom, it can be faked |
| 00:51.36 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:57.06 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i need an amss dump to make any conclusions |
| 00:57.23 | NetRipper | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787 pick any of em ;) |
| 00:59.19 | cr2_ | NetRipper: what is1ghz hack ? |
| 00:59.40 | cr2_ | if you have it, dump the nk.exe |
| 00:59.52 | cr2_ | we will then disassemble it |
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| 01:01.07 | cr2_ | ok, i'll look at it |
| 01:01.10 | cr2_ | good night |
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| 01:14.38 | babijoee | stinebd: ping |
| 01:14.44 | stinebd | babijoee: pong |
| 01:18.17 | Boydell_ | Boydell_: ping |
| 01:18.22 | stinebd | heh |
| 01:18.27 | Boydell_ | haha |
| 01:18.32 | Boydell_ | I was curious |
| 01:18.59 | babijoee | stinebd: overall smoothness android better? |
| 01:19.15 | stinebd | babijoee: slightly |
| 01:19.15 | Boydell_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.59 | stinebd | babijoee: the biggest difference is when you haven't been doing anything cpu intensive. with up_threshold lowered to 40 it kicks the cpu into a higher frequency a bit faster |
| 01:20.12 | stinebd | (a common use-case for the app drawer) |
| 01:20.41 | stinebd | ideally, you'd like the app drawer sliding up to kick it into full speed so that scrolling is nice |
| 01:21.14 | stinebd | that is, of course, working around the issue of eclair being slower for some reason |
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| 01:23.04 | babijoee | true |
| 01:23.38 | stinebd | another place where i seemed to notice it was in browser |
| 01:25.23 | babijoee | so the downfall is less battery life |
| 01:25.29 | babijoee | you think its worth it? |
| 01:25.44 | stinebd | maybe less battery life (marginally) |
| 01:25.53 | stinebd | absolutely worth it imo |
| 01:25.58 | babijoee | awesome |
| 01:26.02 | babijoee | what needs to be changed |
| 01:26.16 | stinebd | will have to decide on that later |
| 01:26.43 | stinebd | immediately, you could just echo 40 >/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold |
| 01:26.50 | stinebd | in init |
| 01:27.06 | stinebd | assuming i got the whole path right |
| 01:27.19 | babijoee | ah k |
| 01:27.24 | babijoee | ;p giving it a shot to see |
| 01:27.54 | stinebd | on the kernel side, MrPippy noted the msm7k cpufreq governor in heroc's kernel. i imported it into my local 2.6.27 branch and am using it now |
| 01:28.18 | stinebd | he said something about it needing nohz though so it may not be an option right now |
| 01:32.43 | babijoee | ah k |
| 01:32.56 | babijoee | so putting that line into init wont work? |
| 01:33.04 | stinebd | it would |
| 01:33.09 | babijoee | kk |
| 01:33.57 | babijoee | if its significant change then i'll leave it in there so its some eye candy for new users :p |
| 01:34.39 | stinebd | you can do that on a running system to test |
| 01:34.43 | stinebd | via adb shell |
| 01:34.58 | babijoee | ok |
| 01:40.50 | stinebd | i should check the thread to see if anybody has reported the wifi off freeze again lately |
| 01:41.12 | stinebd | law of averages, it should pop up every 5 posts ;) |
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| 02:03.16 | babijoee | lol |
| 02:03.40 | babijoee | maybe i should make a working but unstable section |
| 02:03.49 | babijoee | so people stop complaining about it |
| 02:03.51 | babijoee | :P |
| 02:05.02 | stinebd | wont stop them |
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| 02:07.38 | babijoee | haha |
| 02:10.46 | babijoee | stinebd: what command do i need to check to see its running? |
| 02:11.15 | stinebd | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold |
| 02:11.27 | stinebd | if it says 40 you did it right |
| 02:11.48 | babijoee | yep its on 40 |
| 02:12.09 | babijoee | but i can't tell if its smoother :p |
| 02:12.28 | stinebd | has the phone settled down yet? |
| 02:12.32 | babijoee | yeah |
| 02:12.40 | MrPippy | hmm i think smd_7500 needs to have more variables marked as volatile |
| 02:13.30 | babijoee | technically this should make donut really smooth? |
| 02:14.00 | stinebd | probably not |
| 02:14.15 | babijoee | ah k |
| 02:14.31 | stinebd | some things might be slightly faster, but i doubt it'd be noticeable since it was pretty smooth as it was |
| 02:17.07 | babijoee | i'm going to make an ultra lite donut rom |
| 02:17.26 | babijoee | and adding all new stuff from eclai |
| 02:17.35 | babijoee | eclair* lets see how it runs |
| 02:19.07 | stinebd | but eclairs taste better than donuts |
| 02:21.11 | babijoee | haha i just wanna see |
| 02:21.24 | babijoee | donut is much more stable i think |
| 02:21.27 | babijoee | :) |
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| 02:32.36 | babijoee | lets see how donut performs :) |
| 02:36.55 | babijoee | woah calibration is totally fked |
| 02:37.16 | babijoee | but god damn the hand pointing to the android is sooooooooo smooth |
| 02:37.24 | Boydell | updated conf with old drivers? |
| 02:37.40 | babijoee | haha i was just playing around |
| 02:38.34 | stinebd | did you build eclair or donut yourself at all? |
| 02:38.48 | babijoee | nope |
| 02:38.55 | babijoee | well eclair i did |
| 02:39.00 | babijoee | but i abandoned it |
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| 02:46.39 | Boydell | ahah yah i know, but mixing and matching, I just figured maybe thats what happened ahha |
| 02:48.44 | babijoee | yeah |
| 02:48.54 | babijoee | well donut is really smooth thats all i can say |
| 02:49.08 | babijoee | sticking with eclair until froyo comes out |
| 02:49.22 | Boydell | yah it was smoother than ecliar. but is it more stable too? |
| 02:49.31 | Boydell | btw is there an eta on froyo? |
| 02:49.46 | babijoee | no clue =/ |
| 02:49.51 | babijoee | no features listed as well |
| 02:49.53 | makkonen | is that... is that a thing? |
| 02:50.01 | babijoee | i think donut was more stable as more things were working |
| 02:50.02 | Boydell | froyo? |
| 02:50.05 | stinebd | frozen yogurt |
| 02:50.30 | makkonen | I know that frozen yogurt is a thing. is that an actual android codename? |
| 02:50.45 | stinebd | yes |
| 02:50.50 | makkonen | kooky |
| 02:50.51 | stinebd | 2.1 |
| 02:50.56 | Boydell | so I've heard |
| 02:50.58 | makkonen | I thought 2.1 was flan. |
| 02:51.05 | stinebd | flan was never an official name |
| 02:51.05 | babijoee | 2.1 is eclair |
| 02:51.17 | Boydell | ecliar is 2.0.1 i thought? |
| 02:51.21 | makkonen | I thought 2.0 was eclair. and 2.0.1 |
| 02:51.29 | babijoee | they both are eclair |
| 02:51.42 | babijoee | 2.0, 2.0.1 and 2.1 are i believe |
| 02:51.45 | Boydell | so confused now ahha |
| 02:51.48 | babijoee | yeah |
| 02:52.01 | Boydell | I think I'll just wait see what comes out |
| 02:52.01 | stinebd | http://www.softsailor.com/news/15871-according-to-erick-tseng-the-next-android-2-1-version-will-be-named-froyo-as-a-delicious-âfrozen-yogurtâ.html |
| 02:52.02 | babijoee | just forget flan ever existed :p |
| 02:52.07 | Boydell | I dont really care |
| 02:52.15 | babijoee | sure :p |
| 02:52.24 | makkonen | I'll grant that this is not meaningfully conversation. |
| 02:52.38 | makkonen | meaningful* |
| 02:52.38 | Boydell | Well then, make it meaningful :) lol |
| 02:54.13 | MrPippy | makkonen: when i run on wifi, i can't get android to crash |
| 02:54.14 | babijoee | makkonen: i think we are fully aware :) |
| 02:54.39 | Boydell | MrPippy: well isnt that a good thing :) |
| 02:54.52 | MrPippy | so either the arm9, smd_7500, ppp, or the tty layer are corrupting memory and causing crashes ;-) |
| 02:55.20 | makkonen | that's awesome.... and daunting. |
| 02:55.43 | Boydell | hm. I know ive had arm9 crash on me before... |
| 02:56.06 | MrPippy | i made some things in smd_7500 volatile, we'll see if that fixes anything |
| 02:56.21 | MrPippy | first i have to turn off wifi without crashing the phone |
| 02:56.30 | makkonen | good luck |
| 02:56.43 | Boydell | Turning off wifi doesnt crash mine? :S |
| 02:56.54 | makkonen | It crashes mine sometimes but not always. |
| 02:57.16 | makkonen | if I turn it off right after I boot it rarely crashes. |
| 02:57.44 | Boydell | hm. I wonder if it crashes when you try to turn it off while its trying to grab data? |
| 02:58.10 | Boydell | aka, transfering the data from wifi to modem? |
| 03:08.30 | Boydell | Ok, turning ON wifi crashed my phone, rebooted back to winmo |
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| 03:12.25 | makkonen | anyone know an way to compare a file to a string in a shell script? |
| 03:12.35 | makkonen | just need to know if it matches or not |
| 03:12.47 | Boydell | the name of a file? so a hard coded string you set? |
| 03:12.58 | Boydell | aka your seeing if a file exists or not? |
| 03:13.47 | makkonen | I'm seeing if the ts-calibration file (which exists) matches the string "0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0\n" (which means it's null, and should be re-calibrated) |
| 03:14.21 | makkonen | there's probably an easier way around all this. |
| 03:14.36 | Boydell | yah I dont have a clue, not very good with scripts.. |
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| 03:18.30 | makkonen | echo 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 | cmp -s ts-calibration |
| 03:18.32 | makkonen | positively elegant. |
| 03:22.57 | Boydell | is this to finally get the calibration right with the new screen driver? |
| 03:28.28 | makkonen | yeah |
| 03:28.49 | Boydell | also, it seems, i was trying to dl from market, and turn off wifi, thats when it crashed.. |
| 03:29.17 | Boydell | its almost like if your trying to pull data from 3G then transfer to wifi or vice vera, it crashes.. |
| 03:30.16 | MrPippy | the panic shows its just a wifi/sd problem |
| 03:30.34 | makkonen | ...cept I can't seem to get it to run the calibration app from the rootfs, because the framebuffer isn't initialized. other than that, it works a treat. |
| 03:33.54 | babijoee | MrPippy: also shutdowns doesn't seem to work for me anymore |
| 03:34.23 | babijoee | not sure if its relevant, but just letting you guys know |
| 03:34.44 | makkonen | just happened to try it 10 minutes ago and it seems to work for me. (I was surprised.) |
| 03:34.58 | babijoee | makkonen: device? |
| 03:35.04 | makkonen | raph800 |
| 03:35.04 | Boydell | shutdowns usuallly work for me too |
| 03:35.39 | MrPippy | i haven't changed anything in 2 weeks, and the only device where anything different should have happened is cdma diamond |
| 03:36.29 | makkonen | something changed recently that caused it to start working again. it was definitely not working on the 17th. |
| 03:36.29 | babijoee | its weird :D |
| 03:36.37 | babijoee | ah well |
| 03:36.49 | babijoee | it was good while it lasted XD |
| 03:36.54 | makkonen | heh |
| 03:37.06 | Boydell | makkonen: I put in a commit that made it start working again. |
| 03:37.07 | makkonen | I just hit the reset button anyway. |
| 03:37.16 | makkonen | ah, ok. |
| 03:37.43 | Boydell | it was the one that made sound die, but, i read some patch notes that said sound may work again, tried it, it worked lol |
| 03:38.14 | babijoee | Boydell: for shutdown or wifi |
| 03:38.15 | babijoee | ? |
| 03:38.27 | Boydell | shutdown |
| 03:39.49 | Boydell | if (!machine_is_htcdiamond_cdma() && !machine_is_htcraphael_cdma() && ! machine_is_htcraphael_cdma500()) { |
| 03:39.51 | Boydell | /* power-off doesn't work on CDMA diamond with this enabled */ |
| 03:39.53 | Boydell | msg.cmd = RPCROUTER_CTRL_CMD_BYE; |
| 03:39.55 | Boydell | rpcrouter_send_control_msg(&msg); |
| 03:40.03 | Boydell | twas that one |
| 03:44.52 | MrPippy | yeah i never had problems with sound and it made poweroff work, but it kills sound for other people |
| 03:45.07 | MrPippy | i'm running a weird radio version (telus 1.04.05), maybe thats why |
| 03:57.02 | MrPippy | makkonen: all cdma people: see if the latest commit helps out stability, in my brief testing it was a lot more stable |
| 03:57.19 | makkonen | will do. |
| 03:57.41 | Boydell | MrPippy: I have a telus radio too...hmm.. |
| 04:08.00 | Boydell | MrPippy: more stable where? |
| 04:09.01 | makkonen | It didn't crash during my game of abduction. That's a good sign. |
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| 04:16.06 | Boydell | do you get a keyboard has stopped working on boot too? |
| 04:18.35 | Boydell | MrPippy: is your phone originally a telus? or you just decided to use a telus radio version? whats the story? |
| 04:19.19 | makkonen | living in san diego and being on sprint... it's not originally a telus. |
| 04:19.29 | makkonen | feels stalkerish. |
| 04:19.39 | Boydell | and so you should lmao |
| 04:21.42 | Boydell | oh noes |
| 04:21.46 | Boydell | I lost data! |
| 04:22.02 | Boydell | makkonen: does your 3G work? |
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| 04:30.35 | makkonen | eek. I don't know. let me check. |
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| 04:40.50 | Boydell | also makk, batt is still a little high, may i suggest 5/4? |
| 04:41.46 | makkonen | 5/4 is what I used originally. it was quite low. 9/7 should be about right... at this point, the problems are elsewhere, I think. |
| 04:42.02 | Boydell | ok, on mine its about 10% too high |
| 04:42.43 | makkonen | well, at 5/4 it would read 5% for a huge range (anything under 30 or 40% in winmo). |
| 04:43.07 | Boydell | actaully after a reboot, its a bit better? |
| 04:43.07 | makkonen | but that might come down to the table. whatever... it's all a kludge anyway, I shouldn't even bother with it. |
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| 04:44.12 | Boydell | I think a new data.img fixed my data problem too |
| 04:45.04 | makkonen | yeah. data seems to be working fine for me. |
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| 05:13.25 | MrPippy | yeah i don't remember why i went for a telus radio |
| 05:14.22 | Boydell | hm. well then lol. |
| 05:14.40 | Boydell | I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the audio not working sometimes. but idk |
| 05:14.45 | MrPippy | but it might be why my sound works with the shutdown fix, and doesn't work for others |
| 05:15.17 | Boydell | how many others does it fail with? So far i think only one of us raph800 users it kills.. |
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| 05:17.09 | MrPippy | some people in my diam500 thread say sound and data don't work |
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| 05:18.21 | Boydell | weird. Although some people are...umm..how to put this nicely? |
| 05:18.26 | Boydell | not tech savey? |
| 05:18.36 | Boydell | yet they bitch and somplain things arnt working? |
| 05:18.37 | Boydell | ahha |
| 05:22.11 | makkonen | that's putting it very nicely. |
| 05:22.35 | Boydell | yah well, I would have liked to said more, but I think I'm just goin be polite today. |
| 05:23.14 | MrPippy | yeah i believe when their sound isn't working, but i think they just need to wait longer for data to come up |
| 05:24.14 | Boydell | Yah. Or make a new data.img. Maybe look at the dmesg to see WHY shit isnt working also. I mean, don't just bitch, do something to help! |
| 05:24.32 | Boydell | anyways, rant over. going to bed, night all. |
| 05:26.24 | bzo | MrPippy: your fix looks promising. Was able to download 2 large marketplace apps in a row. Never been able to do that before |
| 05:27.26 | bzo | bleck, already missing makkonen's new touchscreen driver though |
| 05:27.57 | makkonen | ? |
| 05:28.31 | bzo | MrPippy has the never driver in his build I was using until now |
| 05:28.41 | makkonen | ah |
| 05:29.59 | bzo | it will be perfect once the calibration app is done :) |
| 05:30.19 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 05:31.19 | makkonen | calibration app is done. |
| 05:31.23 | MrPippy | i sorta want to commit the files now (but not the board-htcdiam/raph to enable it) |
| 05:31.28 | makkonen | done-ish. |
| 05:31.40 | makkonen | (but nothing's at all done for blackstone) |
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| 05:38.38 | makkonen | with a new rootfs, it autocalibrates at boot and saves it to the sdcard. ...but it requires having the calibrate app sitting in your sdcard. which is inelegant. |
| 05:38.57 | makkonen | autocalibrate = runs the calibrate app if you don't already have calibration settings. |
| 05:39.26 | bzo | ok, just downloaded my 6th 1mb+ app from marketplace. Huge improvement! |
| 05:40.13 | makkonen | awesome. |
| 05:40.48 | MrPippy | kickass |
| 05:41.15 | MrPippy | can't believe this would just stem from some variables not being marked as volatile |
| 05:41.37 | bzo | yeah, I must admit I wasn |
| 05:41.52 | makkonen | I've seen some pretty dumb things just left to be dealt with later in the code. |
| 05:42.59 | MrPippy | i finally realized it when i was looking through dzo's vogue-smd, where the entire structures are marked as volatile |
| 05:43.29 | MrPippy | the buffers not marked wasn't a big problem for gsm because smd.c uses memcpy |
| 05:43.50 | MrPippy | but the 7500 pointers not being marked was bad, those get accessed directly |
| 05:45.37 | bzo | uh oh, just rebooted. Wasn't downloading anything at the time though |
| 05:46.59 | bzo | it was slightly responsive before rebooting. The lights were still following the capacitive touch panel |
| 05:47.18 | tmzt | oh? ppp on smd7500 is fixed? |
| 05:49.20 | MrPippy | yeah i think so |
| 05:49.42 | MrPippy | if the capacitive panel is still lighting up, the kernel is still alive and didn't panic |
| 05:50.02 | bzo | hmm, can't access adb through the kernel I compiled. Do I have to configure anything to enable it? |
| 05:51.08 | makkonen | were you talking about changing the usb settings so it came up as a dream for adb purposes? |
| 05:51.08 | MrPippy | shouldn't have to |
| 05:51.22 | makkonen | or was that someone else? |
| 05:51.33 | bzo | adb devices shows connectivity, but has status of "offline" |
| 05:51.45 | MrPippy | yeah i was thinking about that, so windows would be ok without having to hack the .inf |
| 05:52.09 | makkonen | yeah. I was wondering if anyone had tried it. because even with the hacked inf, I couldn't get it to work on my system. |
| 05:52.18 | tmzt | is the product number fixed now? |
| 05:52.25 | MrPippy | and then putting a line into eclair.user.conf to change usb_function_switch to adb-only, instead of adb+usbnet |
| 05:52.31 | tmzt | what device? |
| 05:52.49 | makkonen | me: raph800. mrpippy and bzo: diam500, I believe. |
| 05:53.23 | bzo | I've always found adb on windows painful |
| 05:53.38 | makkonen | me too. but painful is better than dead. |
| 05:54.22 | makkonen | if it'd just work, could maybe give droid explorer a shot... it looks very nice. |
| 05:54.34 | bzo | I've given up on win adb, and run a linux vm |
| 05:55.08 | makkonen | whenever I try to share the usb device with my vbox vm, vbox crashes hardcore. Have to reboot the host system before it'll fire up again. |
| 05:55.54 | bzo | works well for me on vmware. At least until now with my self compiled kernel |
| 05:56.58 | MrPippy | makkonen: you've never had adb working on windows? |
| 05:57.15 | makkonen | not since... early december? |
| 05:57.32 | bzo | what is the syntax of usb_function_switch? ifconfig is showing usb0 for me - want to try forcing adb only |
| 05:57.40 | makkonen | not since they made all the changes to enable multiple usb functions running simultaneously. rndis, etc |
| 05:58.18 | MrPippy | doing "echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch" will do adb-only |
| 05:58.55 | bzo | I had trouble with that too on windows. I had to disable the mass storage driver, or else it kept switch back and forth between the 2 modes |
| 05:59.06 | MrPippy | that and a product id change, should make it identical to the g1 and windows should work |
| 05:59.10 | tmzt | can we just make the sysfs entry either the bitmap or product value |
| 05:59.30 | makkonen | mass storage kills data for me. |
| 05:59.56 | MrPippy | i've never tried mass storage in linux |
| 06:00.06 | tmzt | data? |
| 06:00.21 | MrPippy | i'm gonna commit the product id change now, i think only windows cares what it is |
| 06:00.22 | makkonen | smd1, cdma modem |
| 06:00.43 | makkonen | cool. I was about to start looking to figure out where it was stored, glad I don't have to. :-) |
| 06:04.40 | MrPippy | i think the only reason usbnet is on by default is because phh uses it |
| 06:06.38 | makkonen | has anyone ever used the rndis functionality? |
| 06:07.15 | MrPippy | not sure if i ever have |
| 06:07.18 | bzo | oh well, usb_function_switch doesn't fix it. thx MrPippy |
| 06:07.35 | tmzt | bzo: what device? |
| 06:07.44 | bzo | diam500 |
| 06:08.09 | bzo | it took me this whole time to type in that command. Really difficult with the old touchscreen driver :) |
| 06:08.26 | MrPippy | you have to change the product id and usb_function_switch |
| 06:08.32 | makkonen | heh. wifi shell. highly recommended. |
| 06:09.08 | bzo | I'm connecting in linux, does the product id matter there? |
| 06:09.30 | MrPippy | no |
| 06:11.11 | makkonen | echo 2 > usb_function_switch isn't necessary if you just kill usb_function_ether in the config, right? |
| 06:12.02 | tmzt | it's the combination |
| 06:12.10 | tmzt | we need to clean this up |
| 06:12.15 | tmzt | bzo: it shouldn't |
| 06:12.23 | MrPippy | yeah i guess that should work |
| 06:12.29 | MrPippy | i just pushed the product id change |
| 06:16.23 | MrPippy | oo wow, engadget has a real-looking picture of the apple tablet |
| 06:16.35 | MrPippy | and geohot released the details on his ps3 hack |
| 06:16.45 | tmzt | metal edge? |
| 06:17.02 | tmzt | yep, and code |
| 06:17.47 | makkonen | stupid apple tablet. it makes me angry for a reason I cannot explain. |
| 06:17.57 | MrPippy | i expect sony will lock down the hv pretty soon |
| 06:20.43 | bzo | makkonen, lol |
| 06:20.59 | MrPippy | heh you can get angry at it after its released |
| 06:22.04 | makkonen | no, I think the part I'm angry about is already out there. it's the hype, the fawning, etc. |
| 06:22.16 | makkonen | hey, nice... win7 automatically downloads and installs drivers now. |
| 06:22.43 | bzo | wonder if sony will care now? They're not losing too much money anymore on each unit. Really, they've already succeeded in their security |
| 06:23.46 | MrPippy | its the pirated games they're worried about |
| 06:24.41 | bzo | right. Well in that case there's no shutting the door anymore with tens of millions of hackable units out there... |
| 06:24.50 | makkonen | hot damn. Droid Explorer just plain works now. how pleasant. |
| 06:24.51 | MrPippy | since the ps3 ran linux (until the slim), sony could have been losing a giant amount of money on each unit already |
| 06:25.47 | MrPippy | and right now there isn't a software hack, so very few people are going to try this |
| 06:27.00 | bzo | it is impressive in any case how long it took hack the PS3 |
| 06:27.28 | MrPippy | assuming the private encryption keys aren't dumped, sony can patch the HV and any software bugs that are found, and make the update mandatory for psn and new games/br |
| 06:27.41 | MrPippy | yeah it is, especially since they've had the linux capability since the beginning |
| 06:28.26 | MrPippy | that made this way easier for geohot, but also deterred people from trying (since sony was making a token gesture towards homebrew people) |
| 06:28.41 | bzo | makkonen - so adb works painlessly in w7 now? |
| 06:28.48 | makkonen | seems so. |
| 06:29.10 | makkonen | maybe a little flaky... already dropped once. but that's more the device than adb specifically. |
| 06:30.41 | makkonen | of course I don't know if that's changing the product ID or turning off usbnet |
| 06:31.07 | MrPippy | pretty sure its both |
| 06:31.23 | makkonen | I'll take it. |
| 06:32.03 | MrPippy | yeah we should have babijoee put the usb_function_switch into /init |
| 06:36.59 | bzo | the driver does seem to painlessly install in my x64 w7 |
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| 06:37.39 | bzo | still can't connect, there must be something messed up in my kernel config somehow |
| 06:37.59 | MrPippy | thats good, x64 doesn't do unsigned drivers, and doesn't hacking the .inf invalidate the signature? |
| 06:38.40 | makkonen | it complains, but I think it'll still install the unsigned drivers. |
| 06:39.11 | bzo | w7 downloaded and installed the drivers automatically. Presumably they are signed? |
| 06:39.20 | makkonen | yeah |
| 06:40.18 | makkonen | but when I had to hack the inf, or when I used the drivers from androidhtc.sf.net, those both installed ok. |
| 06:42.19 | bzo | I'm liking the ability to shut down the phone now |
| 06:42.53 | MrPippy | is your sound working? |
| 06:43.12 | bzo | yes, and data comes up instantly |
| 06:44.41 | MrPippy | cool, do you happen to know what your radio version is? :-) |
| 06:45.04 | bzo | standard sprint 1.11 I believe |
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| 06:48.26 | MrPippy | ok |
| 06:49.07 | MrPippy | heh this thing with radio versions might not work out, (almost) everybody with diam500 has one version or the other |
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| 09:39.50 | babijoee | thanks MrPippy :) |
| 09:40.24 | babijoee | opps spoke too soon |
| 09:40.27 | babijoee | it finally crashed |
| 09:40.28 | babijoee | :p |
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| 13:57.19 | Captnoord | makkonen: gj on the ts manager |
| 13:57.48 | Captnoord | even that its a copy paste |
| 13:58.05 | Captnoord | likes calibration... and that isn't copy paste |
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| 15:57.32 | Boydell | morning everyone |
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| 16:09.57 | babijoee | morning Boydell |
| 16:10.10 | Boydell | how goes it? |
| 16:10.51 | babijoee | not good |
| 16:11.04 | babijoee | my nexus one seems to have a problem |
| 16:11.16 | babijoee | its not charging but rather stays at same capacity |
| 16:11.23 | babijoee | i'm trying to fix it |
| 16:11.39 | babijoee | but someone says i'll need to kill the battery first. That will take forever :p |
| 16:11.42 | Boydell | uh oh. Did you do anything to cause this? Or it just started happening? |
| 16:11.58 | babijoee | well someone else had this happening to them so |
| 16:12.20 | babijoee | i'm not sure if its rom or kernel specific |
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| 16:13.40 | Boydell | weird. Whats the battery life on that thing? |
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| 16:20.23 | babijoee | amazing |
| 16:20.27 | babijoee | lol |
| 16:20.34 | babijoee | i hope its just some silly bug |
| 16:21.22 | Boydell | yah that is messed up. hopefully it works out for you |
| 16:21.41 | Boydell | I wish it worked on my network :( |
| 16:22.51 | babijoee | lol it might eventually |
| 16:23.12 | Boydell | yah, by then though the neux 2 will be out |
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| 17:21.03 | Boydell | Is there a way to get is so that the phone vibrates when there is a new text? |
| 17:25.00 | stinebd | yes |
| 17:25.11 | stinebd | in messaging, hit the menu button, go to settings, notifications |
| 17:25.22 | stinebd | you can even change which tone it uses |
| 17:26.01 | stinebd | much better than every app using the same tone i think ;) |
| 17:26.25 | Boydell | well who the hell would hide in there? Thanks stinebd |
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| 17:57.40 | NeoMatrixJR | android port newb needs help setting up environment for RHOD/TP2 CDMA development. Can anyone point me to the right repo for this platform? |
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| 18:02.14 | MrPippy | i'm not sure which repo is the right one, this one i think http://gitorious.org/~mweirauch/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-topaz |
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| 18:04.58 | phh | [01:12:09] <makkonen> hmm. tssc calibrate is a 570K app? is that from compiling it -static? <---- yes static, AFAIK rootfs has no libc, so it's the only way |
| 18:05.05 | phh | the size is not a problem, we can just make a new rootfs :p |
| 18:05.09 | phh | anyway we would have to clean it. |
| 18:05.40 | phh | [01:09:49] <stinebd> phh: if you're interested: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Import-msm7k-cpufreq-governor-from-heroc-kernel.patch <------ i'm intereseted in reports :p |
| 18:06.08 | phh | [01:21:32] <stinebd> MrPippy: what is this turbo mode stuff in the heroc kernel? it reminds me of those old compaq pentium computers with the turbo button <----- 528MHZ afaik (it's not enable=d by default) |
| 18:06.44 | phh | [01:26:50] <MrPippy> yeah i haven't figured out what the heroc turbo mode is, the a11 is at 528 mhz either way, but it increases some other frequencies <- |
| 18:06.51 | phh | oh right memory turbo then. |
| 18:08.17 | phh | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.06 | phh | [02:33:37] <babijoee> so the downfall is less battery life <---- I'm not sure of that at all. |
| 18:10.25 | stinebd | phh: re msm7k governor, no adverse effects, works as expected |
| 18:10.46 | phh | you mean it's better or not ? |
| 18:10.55 | phh | I wouldn't expect so as it's based on conservative iirc |
| 18:11.02 | stinebd | no noticeable difference at default settings |
| 18:11.22 | stinebd | other than the minimum freq being 275.6 or something |
| 18:11.28 | stinebd | as opposed to 128 |
| 18:11.50 | phh | that might be the reason of the improvement more than the governor |
| 18:13.43 | NeoMatrixJR | phh: reading through the back log from the other day, were you needing debug/test help from TP2 owners? |
| 18:13.59 | phh | tomorrow |
| 18:15.13 | NeoMatrixJR | I will try and be on then. Don't know if it makes much difference to you, but I've got a sprint cdma TP2 (no GSM help from me though...I don't have a GSM SIM active) |
| 18:15.43 | phh | [03:20:54] <MrPippy> hmm i think smd_7500 needs to have more variables marked as volatile <---- the proper linux way is readl/writel (even if it isn't always easy) |
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| 18:17.01 | Boydell_ | how do i change my nick? lol |
| 18:17.42 | AstainHellbring | do a /nick |
| 18:18.49 | Boydell | ah, there we go |
| 18:19.01 | Boydell | thanks |
| 18:20.25 | phh | [04:38:49] <makkonen> ...cept I can't seem to get it to run the calibration app from the rootfs, because the framebuffer isn't initialized. other than that, it works a treat. <----- muh ? if you see some text it means that fb is actually active :p, but maybe we have to request exclusivity to it |
| 18:20.34 | stinebd | phh: the governor itself has some silly "sweet spot" algorithm modification to the frequency selection which favors performance a bit more than conservative, but frankly i don't see why it'd be much better |
| 18:20.59 | phh | ok, might be just the 128MHz low frequency the problem then |
| 18:21.27 | stinebd | most likely |
| 18:22.18 | stinebd | have you tried tuning ondemand via sysfs at all yet? |
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| 18:25.00 | ToAsTcfh | yeah my hero will lock up if i gho any lower then 200mhz |
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| 18:25.43 | ToAsTcfh | phh: anymore work on the camera? |
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| 18:25.52 | phh | no |
| 18:25.55 | ToAsTcfh | bah |
| 18:26.06 | ToAsTcfh | so whats new then |
| 18:26.25 | stinebd | he's busy, call back in july |
| 18:26.32 | ToAsTcfh | lol |
| 18:27.17 | phh | [07:07:23] <MrPippy> that and a product id change, should make it identical to the g1 and windows should work <---- AFAIK we use hero IDs, so no need to change it |
| 18:27.43 | phh | [07:12:57] <MrPippy> i think the only reason usbnet is on by default is because phh uses it <----- no I don't, it's for gnu/linux users |
| 18:27.54 | stinebd | :> |
| 18:28.24 | ToAsTcfh | yeah i guess backporting stuff from .29 into .27 isnt going well for us either.( ie camera and opengl) |
| 18:28.36 | Boydell | Windows downloads drivers for my phone now, as a htc dream actually.. |
| 18:28.52 | ToAsTcfh | needing libs i guess for the camera |
| 18:31.31 | ToAsTcfh | phh what camera are u guys using anyhow |
| 18:31.40 | phh | mt9t013 |
| 18:31.48 | phh | and mi830 or something like that |
| 18:32.05 | ToAsTcfh | eh the gsm hero uses mt9t012 |
| 18:32.28 | ToAsTcfh | we use the 5kXXX |
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| 18:33.00 | Captnoord | NetRipper: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/65199/ontwikkelaar-maakt-dual-boot-met-android-mogelijk-op-windows-mobile.html |
| 18:33.06 | Captnoord | ya already knew of course |
| 18:33.11 | ToAsTcfh | no 2.x libs yet for a msm_camera using our camera |
| 18:33.11 | stinebd | whoa |
| 18:33.16 | stinebd | it's in some kind of ancient dead language |
| 18:33.20 | Captnoord | but why didn't you write the article |
| 18:33.21 | Captnoord | :P |
| 18:33.34 | stinebd | perhaps aramaic |
| 18:33.52 | Captnoord | lol |
| 18:34.23 | Boydell | http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://tweakers.net/nieuws/65199/ontwikkelaar-maakt-dual-boot-met-android-mogelijk-op-windows-mobile.html&ei=H4dgS_vIEJXj8QaU65CEDA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://tweakers.net/nieuws/65199/ontwikkelaar-maakt-dual-boot-met-android-mogelijk-op-windows-mobile.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG |
| 18:34.29 | Boydell | in case you want english |
| 18:34.30 | stinebd | lol |
| 18:34.37 | stinebd | thats one hell of a url |
| 18:34.50 | Boydell | could have tinyurl it i guess |
| 18:34.52 | Boydell | too lazy |
| 18:34.56 | Boydell | just click it :P |
| 18:34.59 | stinebd | it fits into one message, it's fine |
| 18:35.17 | Captnoord | please don't try using a auto translate |
| 18:35.22 | Captnoord | as it will generate crap |
| 18:36.03 | Boydell | well, it makes it half read-able for me |
| 18:36.59 | Captnoord | its just a new's article of the guy who made android / winmo dualboot |
| 18:39.51 | ToAsTcfh | phh: u tried the sapphire libcamera and such i guess huh? |
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| 18:39.59 | phh | no |
| 18:40.12 | ToAsTcfh | they use the same camera |
| 18:40.28 | phh | yes and ? |
| 18:41.00 | ToAsTcfh | well the libs cbridge between hw and software |
| 18:41.07 | phh | you still haven't seen the android camera driver is independant of the kernel driver ? |
| 18:41.22 | phh | since the kernel driver always exposes the same /dev/msm_camera/control0/frame0/config0 or something like that |
| 18:41.23 | ToAsTcfh | eh no |
| 18:41.44 | ToAsTcfh | yeah we got that too but the libs arent having it |
| 18:43.31 | ToAsTcfh | weve gotten the camera to work correctly to a point. then when it tries to start a preview surfacer give a null instead of creating the surface ie preview |
| 18:44.00 | ToAsTcfh | surfaceholder actually |
| 18:44.29 | ToAsTcfh | which is part of the api all together |
| 18:45.11 | phh | MrPippy: http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/issues/show/56 well done it seems. |
| 18:45.18 | ToAsTcfh | so to me it seems like our issues on the heroc atleast is not having the proper libs for our camera |
| 18:46.15 | phh | check V4L driver. |
| 18:46.34 | ToAsTcfh | i think surfacecreate is trying to write too control0 but cant |
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| 18:47.03 | ToAsTcfh | all the v4l drivers are from .29 |
| 18:47.09 | phh | yes and ? |
| 18:47.39 | Captnoord | hmmm asus is charging me 414 euro's for repairing my laptop |
| 18:47.40 | Captnoord | lolz |
| 18:47.44 | Captnoord | like I gonna pay that |
| 18:47.57 | ToAsTcfh | eh what u think its in v4l driver |
| 18:48.24 | phh | ToAsTcfh: V4L2 api is *stable* |
| 18:48.32 | phh | you have dozens of tools which are able to use it |
| 18:48.39 | phh | so you won't rely on fucking stupid userland |
| 18:49.18 | ToAsTcfh | yeah i just gotta find away around userland ur righ |
| 18:49.34 | phh | I won't even tell you how many times android's userland fooled me. |
| 18:49.50 | stinebd | heh |
| 18:50.17 | ToAsTcfh | but if msm_camera is using v4l2 then it should be done that way to begin with righ |
| 18:50.51 | phh | ToAsTcfh: it's not using v4l2 |
| 18:50.59 | phh | v4l2 is just an alternate way to access to video |
| 18:51.09 | MrPippy | phh: i did the usb change for 0c01 so that it would match the dream singleinterface (after doing echo 2 > usb_function_switch) |
| 18:51.25 | ToAsTcfh | eh im on lunch and gotta get back to work. ill have to check into it later. thanx |
| 18:52.10 | MrPippy | as long as babijoee can put the function_switch into /init or eclair.user.conf, it should work |
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| 19:04.02 | NetRipper | Captnoord, that's no real dual boot |
| 19:05.19 | Boydell | How can it be? Android can't boot on its own yet without WinMo? |
| 19:06.28 | NetRipper | Captnoord, it just starts very early in the winmo boot process and displays a form.. if you choose android, it boots android, if you choose winmo, it just continues booting ;) |
| 19:07.16 | NetRipper | Boydell, that too, but the kernel should be mature enough by now to include most init'ing |
| 19:07.49 | NetRipper | so maybe it'd be possible already, somone still has to write the bootloader though, and add support to boot from xip |
| 19:07.56 | AstainHellbring | vogue can |
| 19:08.08 | phh | NetRipper: some stuff are still not working |
| 19:08.10 | NetRipper | it can? i wasnt sure if dzo wsa there already :) |
| 19:08.11 | phh | I got dex working |
| 19:09.06 | Captnoord | NetRipper: I know |
| 19:09.18 | NetRipper | phh, nice :) |
| 19:09.34 | phh | but panel init hang up |
| 19:09.36 | phh | I don't know why |
| 19:10.01 | NetRipper | you also work on the vogue phh? |
| 19:10.10 | phh | no |
| 19:10.46 | phh | the "new" wince devices are already a lot of work :p |
| 19:11.02 | NetRipper | :p |
| 19:11.45 | NetRipper | i gtg, training :) |
| 19:11.46 | NetRipper | later |
| 19:11.51 | Captnoord | k |
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| 19:50.09 | makkonen | phh: yeah, the fb device issue was just dumb on my part. /dev/graphics didn't exist, so mknod /dev/graphics/fb0 failed. Easily solved. Now it works (except the scrolling of the console makes some of the targets hard to see -- is there a way to blank the console while it does the calibration?) |
| 19:51.57 | phh | hum don't know |
| 19:52.02 | phh | see how fbset -g works |
| 19:53.24 | phh | maybe something with CON2FBMAP |
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| 19:59.49 | phh | makkonen: reading back from sdcard works ? |
| 20:00.50 | makkonen | yeah |
| 20:07.37 | phh | next step is blac, maybe even rhod/topaz's zoom bar |
| 20:15.48 | tmzt | that's resistive isn't it? another android-specifc feature that needs bunged into kernel |
| 20:16.11 | phh | uh ? |
| 20:16.14 | phh | what android-specific ? |
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| 20:23.56 | Captnoord | I wonder what all this i2c stuff is with the ts driver in wince |
| 20:24.16 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 20:24.23 | Captnoord | seems to be external ts controller |
| 20:24.38 | phh | Captnoord: for which device ? |
| 20:24.54 | Captnoord | raph.... |
| 20:24.58 | Captnoord | but I wonder..... |
| 20:25.01 | Captnoord | I really do |
| 20:25.13 | Captnoord | htc won't code device drivers for something that isn't there |
| 20:25.21 | phh | lol. |
| 20:25.25 | phh | I wouldn't bet on that :p |
| 20:25.48 | Captnoord | I know... maybe they would |
| 20:25.53 | Captnoord | debug code or something like that |
| 20:27.04 | Captnoord | I wonder |
| 20:27.16 | Captnoord | maybe they implemented stuff for a external ts |
| 20:27.24 | Captnoord | with the video out stuff |
| 20:27.31 | Captnoord | would be kick ass |
| 20:28.15 | Captnoord | nah |
| 20:28.17 | Captnoord | i'm dreaming |
| 20:29.38 | stinebd | you definitely are |
| 20:29.57 | stinebd | but it's much more interesting than reality at least |
| 20:30.14 | Captnoord | its called when TouchNotifyEvent is called |
| 20:30.29 | Captnoord | maybe they create a i2c driver for it to work with wince |
| 20:30.48 | Captnoord | should stop dreaming |
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| 20:32.52 | phh | Captnoord: just get usb host :p |
| 20:35.41 | phh | (ok I will.) |
| 20:36.20 | Captnoord | lolz |
| 20:36.25 | Captnoord | i'm just speculating |
| 20:36.42 | phh | usb host is not speculation :p |
| 20:36.55 | Captnoord | I know |
| 20:37.02 | Captnoord | its not what I ment |
| 20:37.03 | phh | but it will be tough to do :/ |
| 20:37.12 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 20:37.19 | Captnoord | if everything was a walk in the part |
| 20:37.21 | Captnoord | park |
| 20:37.26 | Captnoord | life would be crap |
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| 20:40.53 | Captnoord | hmmm |
| 20:40.54 | Captnoord | usb host |
| 20:40.57 | Captnoord | lemme check |
| 20:41.10 | phh | Captnoord: ? |
| 20:41.20 | Captnoord | nothing |
| 20:41.27 | Captnoord | just loading the usb driver into ida |
| 20:41.35 | Captnoord | to look around |
| 20:41.47 | phh | I meant in linux -_-' |
| 20:41.55 | Captnoord | hehe |
| 20:42.17 | Captnoord | we have raph device id and stuff |
| 20:42.20 | Captnoord | regarding usb |
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| 20:47.26 | mickeyl | leviathan_: do you have a recent kernel/image from your tree for the dream somewhere? |
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| 20:49.16 | MrPippy | Captnoord: i've seen htc drivers that have ancient code in them on my diamond, like the serial port driver that had code for running as a usb host, from old htc devices that used that to connect to the radio |
| 20:49.58 | Captnoord | maybe |
| 20:50.00 | Captnoord | maybe |
| 20:50.17 | phh | MrPippy: are you sure of the part "from old htc devices" ? |
| 20:50.24 | phh | because these features doesn't sound stupid for diamond |
| 20:51.03 | phh | oh you mean radio communication was over physical serial port ? |
| 20:51.26 | Captnoord | maybe its test code |
| 20:51.33 | Captnoord | used for factory testing |
| 20:51.57 | Captnoord | because when you know the test pin's in the board |
| 20:52.06 | Captnoord | you could turn it into something usefull |
| 20:52.07 | Captnoord | but |
| 20:52.15 | Captnoord | like all these things |
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| 20:52.19 | Captnoord | we just don't know |
| 20:52.43 | MrPippy | yeah like the htc universal, pxa270-based, used usb host to communicate with the msm |
| 20:52.56 | phh | ah. |
| 20:53.09 | phh | and you're sure it's what this code is about ? |
| 20:53.19 | phh | anyway that don't surprise me at all |
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| 20:54.12 | MrPippy | yeah i don't remember exactly what it was, but it was for that |
| 21:02.50 | Captnoord | phh I wonder the usb host and the video out don't work at the same time? |
| 21:03.02 | phh | don't know |
| 21:03.34 | Captnoord | because it would be interesting to hook a display with with usb ts on it |
| 21:03.36 | Captnoord | would be fun |
| 21:03.37 | Captnoord | :P |
| 21:04.13 | Captnoord | damn I really love the new Ida pro |
| 21:04.23 | Captnoord | loads of tiny little things that make stuff just a bit easier |
| 21:14.43 | MrPippy | wow my phone has been in android for 12 hours, it really is stable now |
| 21:15.48 | Boydell | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.59 | phh | MrPippy: because of volatile ? |
| 21:16.11 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 21:16.16 | phh | MrPippy: huhu |
| 21:16.43 | phh | Boydell: I can do 7am to midnight, including 5 hours of spotify. |
| 21:16.59 | phh | aka "you're doing it wrong" |
| 21:18.47 | Boydell | :O |
| 21:19.40 | bzo | agreed on diam500 stability |
| 21:19.56 | Boydell | well, today is the first day of batt testing, but I unplugged it at about noon, its now 5PM and its reporting 30%. Mind you reporting IS wrong, but its close now.. |
| 21:20.58 | phh | if anyone have any idea of what is the most wrong in our power management btw ... :p |
| 21:21.11 | phh | I'll try slow arm9 tomorrow |
| 21:21.41 | MrPippy | under sleep, does winmo go into a lower-power mode? i know it shuts off usb on sleep |
| 21:22.43 | Boydell | BUT makkonen said something about CDMA wakes up WAY too much |
| 21:22.43 | Boydell | yah and thats ANNOYING actually.. |
| 21:23.22 | MrPippy | yeah it comes out of sleep pretty often if you're moving, like the modem wakes it up when you transition between cells or something |
| 21:23.47 | Boydell | I'm not even moving, just sitting in my basement lol |
| 21:24.01 | phh | MrPippy: one wake up by cell transition is fair -_-' |
| 21:24.43 | MrPippy | if i'm somewhere with marginal coverage or going in/out of elevators/underground, it wakes up way too often |
| 21:25.06 | makkonen | I never confirmed what exactly was waking it up. I just knew it happened every 10-30 seconds when the radio was on, and very infrequently if it was off. I think I tried turning off data and it still kept waking. I'm in sort of marginal coverage zones all the time, though. |
| 21:25.15 | Boydell | I have that problem in WinMo, roaming kills my batt.... |
| 21:26.23 | phh | MrPippy: maybe ril is wrong |
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| 21:40.30 | bzo | <sigh> compiled kernel about 10 times with different tweaks and none will work with adb |
| 21:40.43 | phh | just revert MrPippy's patch |
| 21:41.10 | MrPippy | bzo: are you doing usb_function_switch? |
| 21:41.29 | bzo | I haven't been able to connect with adb with my own compiled kernel, even before MrPippy's patch |
| 21:41.42 | phh | bzo: ah. |
| 21:41.42 | MrPippy | linux or windows? |
| 21:41.59 | bzo | both, but mainly tried through linux |
| 21:42.20 | MrPippy | you do 'adb root' first? |
| 21:42.35 | bzo | If I copy over MrPippy's zImage (from xda) it works right away |
| 21:42.35 | phh | and you do it with the "old" adb ? |
| 21:42.48 | bzo | yes, adb root, using donut sdk |
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| 21:43.02 | MrPippy | adb version makes a difference? |
| 21:43.25 | bzo | linux sees device with lsusb, and adb sees it but has "offline" status |
| 21:43.50 | bzo | phh mentioned using 1.6 version earlier, seems to be the only version that works for me |
| 21:43.56 | phh | same here :p |
| 21:44.03 | phh | mmm offline status |
| 21:44.06 | phh | I don't remember what it means |
| 21:44.14 | phh | oh. |
| 21:44.24 | phh | bzo: use fake charger thingy |
| 21:44.32 | phh | htc_battery_smem.fake=1 I think |
| 21:45.07 | bzo | in startup.txt? |
| 21:45.12 | phh | cmdline yes |
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| 21:50.48 | MrPippy | i have htc_battery.fake_charger=1 in mine, module_name is defined as htc_battery |
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| 21:51.52 | bzo | i have htc_battery.fake_charger=1 in mine also |
| 21:52.32 | phh | MrPippy: uh ? |
| 21:52.41 | phh | in my memories htc_battery_smem.fake_charger=1 worked |
| 21:53.19 | MrPippy | i'm not really sure, but htc_battery_smem has #define MODULE_NAME "htc_battery" |
| 21:53.37 | phh | mmmmmmm |
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| 21:56.21 | bzo | in any case, no effect with htc_battery_smem.fake_charger=1, still offline |
| 21:56.23 | Captnoord | phh 1.6 is the way togo.... |
| 21:56.51 | Captnoord | the 1.6 on connect utb is the latest one of your building? |
| 21:56.53 | Captnoord | or.... |
| 21:57.02 | Captnoord | you got stuff that wasn't reported on connet |
| 21:57.50 | phh | mmm don't remember |
| 21:58.06 | Captnoord | k |
| 21:58.27 | phh | check around http://cobaltcode.com/fileupload//data/Android/ |
| 21:59.06 | stinebd | donut? what is this, 1993? |
| 21:59.40 | Captnoord | lol I just don't care... |
| 21:59.43 | Captnoord | as long as it runs sweet |
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| 22:00.06 | phh | Captnoord: I think I'll work back on it anyway |
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| 22:05.26 | chamonix | hey guys |
| 22:06.02 | Boydell | hey chamonix |
| 22:06.18 | chamonix | hey Boydell |
| 22:06.25 | Boydell | how goes it? |
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| 22:07.13 | chamonix | pretty good, if only my job wasn't killing me I'd say perfect :) |
| 22:07.31 | Boydell | at least you have one :( |
| 22:08.35 | chamonix | right, I am not complaining, I'm grate to have a job at a first place, and also for having one that is fun most of the time |
| 22:08.51 | chamonix | s/grate/gratefull |
| 22:08.51 | Boydell | bah. whats your job? |
| 22:10.01 | chamonix | to sum up: lead engineer and projekt manager in a pretty big non-IT company |
| 22:10.58 | Boydell | sounds fun. wanna hire someone from ontario ;) lol |
| 22:12.20 | chamonix | would u mind moving to germany? |
| 22:12.23 | chamonix | ;) |
| 22:12.39 | Boydell | haha. Do I have to speak german? |
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| 22:14.20 | IceWewe | I was directed here from http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=313 |
| 22:14.31 | chamonix | that would be part of the job too yes |
| 22:14.53 | Boydell | aww man. I can barely speak my native language of english :( |
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| 22:30.35 | chamonix | phh: you wanted me to test something? |
| 22:31.48 | phh | chamonix: playing with cpufreq governors |
| 22:32.32 | chamonix | sounds exciting :) |
| 22:32.41 | phh | not really I think |
| 22:32.50 | stinebd | fairly boring |
| 22:32.54 | chamonix | I just finished testing the last image together with modules, I'll publish my report tomorrow |
| 22:33.01 | phh | ok |
| 22:33.10 | phh | you're still the only one with android on nand though :p |
| 22:33.45 | chamonix | I really need to switch of as much SD as I can to see if it makes a difference |
| 22:33.47 | phh | chamonix: have you tried removing sd card btw ? |
| 22:33.48 | phh | . |
| 22:34.20 | ToAsTcfh | phh: so i should just be able to use .27 v4l2 instead of trying to backport from .29 |
| 22:34.21 | chamonix | not yet, cache and user-init prevent me from doing so, I have to make a few changes to init |
| 22:34.52 | phh | ToAsTcfh: yes |
| 22:34.55 | ToAsTcfh | ok |
| 22:35.03 | chamonix | phh: today I hit the 16 hrs wall |
| 22:35.24 | phh | ramconsole ? |
| 22:35.52 | chamonix | lol it didn't hurt, it's just the first time I got 16 hrs without any hickup |
| 22:36.26 | phh | I don't know if I ever got that much either |
| 22:36.49 | phh | i'm pretty sure this 16 hours limit is a stupid bug though |
| 22:37.09 | Boydell | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.09 | chamonix | I havent had a single freeze since nand except once when trying enable/disable WLAN multiple times yesterday |
| 22:37.22 | phh | Boydell: what's the difference ...? |
| 22:37.28 | phh | chamonix: huhu |
| 22:37.51 | chamonix | phh: my 16 hours ws with one battery load, my phone has been running 3 days in a row without any problem but with loadings in btwn |
| 22:38.04 | phh | ah. |
| 22:38.09 | phh | bah. |
| 22:38.20 | phh | why some people has a 16 (or 18?) hours bug |
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| 22:38.36 | Boydell | Ummm. Well isnt there a Read-Only-Memory? |
| 22:39.10 | Boydell | So where you "flash" a new ROM of WinMo... |
| 22:39.23 | phh | Boydell: that's not read only memory if you can flash it :p |
| 22:39.34 | chamonix | phh: doo you know what ramconsole says in those cases? |
| 22:39.42 | phh | chamonix: no .... |
| 22:39.56 | ToAsTcfh | CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=y |
| 22:39.56 | ToAsTcfh | CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L2_COMMON=y CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1_COMPAT=y CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA=y CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L2=y |
| 22:39.56 | ToAsTcfh | CONFIG_VIDEO_CAPTURE_DRIVERS=y |
| 22:40.04 | ToAsTcfh | eh that was messy |
| 22:40.12 | chamonix | that's a pity |
| 22:40.18 | ToAsTcfh | anyhow it still doesnt work |
| 22:40.29 | phh | ToAsTcfh: you tried V4L userland ? |
| 22:40.45 | ToAsTcfh | eh no |
| 22:40.47 | phh | .... |
| 22:41.11 | ToAsTcfh | config v4l2 userland? |
| 22:41.30 | phh | -_-' |
| 22:41.37 | phh | userland means tools that is not in the kernel |
| 22:41.59 | ToAsTcfh | oh no i guess i gotta find that |
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| 22:43.55 | cr2_ | phh: any fresh gps ideas ? |
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| 22:43.59 | chamonix | phh: have u got any feedback from some1 about the module u had added for network/tethering? |
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| 22:45.04 | phh | chamonix: no |
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| 22:45.17 | chamonix | ok, I'll take that too :) |
| 22:45.28 | phh | cr2_: I'll try to send a reset arm9 at startup and see if I can survive that. |
| 22:46.20 | phh | would help booting from spl too |
| 22:46.43 | ToAsTcfh | phh: i take it this is what ur refering too?! http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/f6b9c22ee45a68c4 |
| 22:47.13 | phh | not at all. |
| 22:47.21 | ToAsTcfh | :/ |
| 22:47.30 | phh | ToAsTcfh: I said don't trust android. |
| 22:47.33 | phh | don't use android stuff for that |
| 22:47.37 | phh | use real linux v4l tools |
| 22:48.37 | Boydell | bah I keep getting disconected. |
| 22:48.44 | Boydell | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.51 | Boydell | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.38 | phh | I don't think so. |
| 22:49.50 | phh | even if there is no software to do it other way |
| 22:50.00 | phh | it works with blocks. |
| 22:50.11 | Boydell | Yah but thats sketchy... |
| 22:50.11 | phh | so same goes for our phones nand |
| 22:50.19 | phh | there is no such thing as rom |
| 22:50.44 | Boydell | True rom, no. Its just what its called.. |
| 22:50.47 | chamonix | phh: any progress on diam+nand? |
| 22:51.08 | phh | what's called flashing is just sending erase blocks commands then write ones... which is exactly what is done on exfat partition too |
| 22:51.22 | phh | chamonix: I need a working rom which leave some room. |
| 22:51.49 | chamonix | lightnhb's not enuff for diam? |
| 22:52.35 | phh | chamonix: the little one doesn't boot, the big one takes the whole nand |
| 22:52.54 | chamonix | :-/ |
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| 22:53.14 | ToAsTcfh | ok |
| 22:54.09 | ToAsTcfh | time to remove android from the search. but there was a bunch of mixed shit without it |
| 22:55.44 | cr2_ | phh: reset arm9 ? how ? |
| 22:56.01 | phh | cr2_: reset arm 9 dex command ? |
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| 22:56.33 | phh | cr2_: the gpio pull down thing might also work if I have the correct values |
| 22:58.04 | cr2_ | the dex is more harmless |
| 22:58.48 | phh | arf |
| 22:59.11 | tmzt | it's eraseable rom |
| 22:59.23 | tmzt | it's not writable with normal bus ops |
| 22:59.26 | tmzt | so it's rom |
| 22:59.35 | tmzt | raw doesn't mean r/w anyway |
| 22:59.37 | tmzt | ram |
| 22:59.44 | phh | at least call it eeprom... |
| 22:59.54 | ToAsTcfh | phh: do u got a link? cuz im finding a bunch of different stuff and im not sure which one im gonna need |
| 23:00.07 | phh | ToAsTcfh: no, iirc xdtv has some usable tools |
| 23:00.19 | ToAsTcfh | ok i seen that one |
| 23:00.56 | ToAsTcfh | does it need to be camera spacific? |
| 23:01.13 | phh | -_-' |
| 23:01.14 | ToAsTcfh | or wait mobile device camera |
| 23:01.20 | phh | it's NOT camera specific |
| 23:01.30 | ToAsTcfh | ok |
| 23:01.32 | phh | that's the point of using a common api |
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| 23:04.34 | cr2_ | phh: i think it's more interesting to shutdown rpc in haret before starting linux. |
| 23:04.56 | phh | cr2_: mmm why in haret ? |
| 23:05.02 | cr2_ | phh: but i need to document the rpc ioctl numbers first |
| 23:05.03 | phh | I think we already do it in linux no ? |
| 23:05.07 | tmzt | emulate nand boot |
| 23:05.09 | phh | with the BYE command |
| 23:05.10 | phh | oh right. |
| 23:05.12 | tmzt | only partially |
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| 23:05.54 | cr2_ | phh: we still don't know if it is the right way |
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| 23:06.46 | cr2_ | phh: the only half-highlevel gps operation in wince is to open the redirected serial port |
| 23:07.16 | cr2_ | i don't know what can be done at a lower level |
| 23:07.58 | cr2_ | opening the port (in wince) after rpc shutdown may provide some interesting insight |
| 23:08.41 | tmzt | also known as a crash |
| 23:09.27 | captnoord | doesn't have to be a crash |
| 23:09.50 | tmzt | freeze? |
| 23:10.06 | cr2_ | tmzt: i think they may reinit the rpc |
| 23:10.55 | tmzt | in the com driver |
| 23:19.54 | NetRipper | phh, are you handy with git and can i ask you to get nexusone git tree on linuxtogo? |
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| 23:20.38 | phh | NetRipper: I still can't push to linuxtogo .. (still no clue why), but it's easy to do :p |
| 23:20.45 | phh | NetRipper: download N1's git somewhere |
| 23:20.59 | NetRipper | i got it locally |
| 23:21.00 | phh | then git push git://blablalinuxtogo qsd-2.6.29 |
| 23:21.05 | phh | and it will create a qsd-2.6.29 branch |
| 23:21.07 | phh | that's it :p |
| 23:21.18 | NetRipper | it will take the data from the current branch that i'm in? |
| 23:21.25 | phh | yup |
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| 23:21.54 | NetRipper | sounds too easy lol, last time i remember something like remote branch and remote pull or something |
| 23:22.21 | NetRipper | phh, using that way you describe can i still easily update the 'copied' tree to include new checkins of the original tree? |
| 23:22.35 | NetRipper | cherrypicking or something alike |
| 23:22.50 | phh | git pull blablalinuxtogo; git pull blablanexusone; git push |
| 23:22.52 | phh | I'd say. |
| 23:24.11 | NetRipper | hm ok |
| 23:24.14 | NetRipper | sounds good |
| 23:24.23 | NetRipper | so just push again |
| 23:24.42 | phh | you have to pull, else you'll have non forward error |
| 23:25.14 | NetRipper | i kinda like found this on the internet but i was too afraid to test it :p http://netripper.pastebin.com/d5a6502e7 |
| 23:25.15 | phh | I think you can even define two remotes, one for pull and one for push |
| 23:25.28 | phh | if you're the only one using this branch, you can just do git pull&& git push :p |
| 23:26.32 | kri5 | git pull --rebase |
| 23:27.34 | NetRipper | ok well i'll try this stuff tomorrow :) |
| 23:27.45 | NetRipper | then i can finally commit share some hd2 stuff |
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| 23:27.57 | NetRipper | +and |
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| 23:28.47 | NetRipper | thx and good night for now :) |
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| 23:33.19 | phh | babijoee: any reason I have only few credits on the first page of your eclair thread ? |
| 23:33.29 | cr2_ | lol |
| 23:33.31 | phh | and "Brightness Control: Must turn off autolight in WinMo" has been changed |
| 23:34.13 | babijoee | i decided to clean up the thread it was gettting messy |
| 23:34.35 | babijoee | ah okay |
| 23:34.37 | babijoee | i'll change that |
| 23:34.53 | babijoee | im abit sad as i think my nexus one battery is broken |
| 23:34.58 | phh | it leads to things I hate like people claming that you did the sms fix (see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelEclair ) |
| 23:35.00 | phh | babijoee: really ? |
| 23:35.14 | phh | babijoee: what did you do to it ? |
| 23:35.20 | babijoee | nothing |
| 23:35.26 | phh | they all say that :p |
| 23:35.34 | babijoee | i updated to new rom, new kerenel and then started charging |
| 23:35.47 | babijoee | after like 30 mins i noticed it wasnt going up |
| 23:35.49 | MrPippy | hmm msm7k governor crashes on boot, i see the early console, get the vibrate, then nothing and it resets a few seconds later |
| 23:36.00 | phh | MrPippy: with stinebd's patch ? |
| 23:36.04 | babijoee | so i went on #cyanogenmod and someone said to let the battery die out and then try charging |
| 23:36.15 | babijoee | so i did that and now my batt forever stays on 0% |
| 23:36.31 | phh | babijoee: android starts or not at all ? |
| 23:36.50 | phh | (I don't know if they have such stupid security) |
| 23:36.58 | MrPippy | i brought it in myself, i'll see if stinebd did anything to it |
| 23:37.19 | phh | MrPippy: he posted a patch today earlier |
| 23:37.24 | babijoee | it does |
| 23:37.27 | babijoee | but i need charger in |
| 23:37.32 | babijoee | or it dies immediately |
| 23:37.42 | phh | MrPippy: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Import-msm7k-cpufreq-governor-from-heroc-kernel.patch |
| 23:37.42 | babijoee | i'm not the only one either |
| 23:37.47 | MrPippy | yeah |
| 23:37.55 | babijoee | some other guy experience it also so i'm waiting on to see what he did |
| 23:38.03 | babijoee | as he got it like a few days before me |
| 23:38.23 | MrPippy | yeah, didn't put in the acpuclock changes ;-) |
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| 23:38.35 | cr2_ | babijoee: can you check the gpio state ? |
| 23:38.42 | phh | MrPippy: acpuclock changes ? |
| 23:38.43 | phh | mmm |
| 23:39.59 | babijoee | cr2 how? |
| 23:40.03 | phh | MrPippy: you have a diff ? |
| 23:40.14 | phh | babijoee: devmem2 on gpio area |
| 23:40.29 | MrPippy | no its in his patch, i just didn't realize there were (minor) changes in acpuclock |
| 23:40.50 | phh | oh right |
| 23:41.54 | MrPippy | hmm turbo mode makes some of the frequency steps for cpufreq higher also |
| 23:42.12 | phh | have you tried overclocking btw ? |
| 23:42.32 | MrPippy | no not past 528 |
| 23:42.38 | captnoord | it can also mean that it will increase freq faster |
| 23:42.47 | phh | MrPippy: it's easy to do :p |
| 23:42.49 | phh | I'll try |
| 23:43.02 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 23:43.09 | captnoord | nn all |
| 23:43.12 | captnoord | need sleep |
| 23:43.15 | phh | same here |
| 23:43.29 | stinebd | sorry, was afk |
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| 23:45.28 | stinebd | MrPippy: interestingly, i forgot those changes (and others) too while i was working on it, but i didn't get boot failures. it booted and simply refused to enable cpufreq |
| 23:46.11 | stinebd | i missed the changes to cpufreq.c too so maybe that's why |
| 23:51.49 | MrPippy | hmm it booted this time, but didn't get all the way into android, copybits was having problems and lots of "timeout waiting for mdp to complete" |
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