| 00:00.27 | townkat | :) |
| 00:00.34 | townkat | is on gmail right ? |
| 00:00.46 | MiT-MiTiK | nope |
| 00:01.08 | MiT-MiTiK | is bill.gates@microsoft.com |
| 00:01.12 | MiT-MiTiK | lol |
| 00:01.37 | MiT-MiTiK | maybe it really is :) |
| 00:01.55 | klinux | no camera/vol button issue under winmo I launched the cam app under android |
| 00:02.08 | MiT-MiTiK | i did also |
| 00:02.12 | MiT-MiTiK | now i reboot to winmo |
| 00:02.23 | auss81 | klinux: me too, no problems |
| 00:02.25 | MiT-MiTiK | i also tried to record a video and do a picture |
| 00:03.12 | phh | the volume bug is the most strange thing |
| 00:03.17 | phh | i mean, how a gpio matrix can fail ? |
| 00:03.23 | phh | it just can't.... |
| 00:03.38 | MiT-MiTiK | is probably as townkat said |
| 00:03.52 | MiT-MiTiK | i just boot linux before winmo finish the boot |
| 00:03.56 | phh | klling volume and camera at the same time is strange |
| 00:04.11 | MiT-MiTiK | i dont know if it was at the same time |
| 00:04.14 | phh | but both are direct GPIO thing so why not .... |
| 00:04.33 | MiT-MiTiK | i notice the volume bug this afternoon i tought with a soft reset was going ok |
| 00:04.49 | MiT-MiTiK | than i read the post of that guy and tried the camera eswell |
| 00:05.21 | MiT-MiTiK | ok camera and volume working fine |
| 00:06.05 | MiT-MiTiK | any chance to make the thouch a bit better and less buggy ? |
| 00:06.18 | phh | hu ? |
| 00:06.23 | MiT-MiTiK | did u ever tried the pointer location application? |
| 00:06.35 | phh | yes |
| 00:06.38 | phh | works fine for me :p |
| 00:06.55 | MiT-MiTiK | on the right of the screen is good but on the left is terrible on blackstone |
| 00:07.05 | townkat | yeah, i agree |
| 00:07.10 | phh | MiT-MiTiK: if you want to calibrate, if i haven't broken it (i'm not sure about that.), start the kernel without the msmts_calib= thing |
| 00:07.15 | phh | then press the red dots in the corner |
| 00:07.21 | townkat | its not about calibration |
| 00:07.28 | townkat | it jumps sometimes |
| 00:07.30 | phh | oh. |
| 00:07.37 | MiT-MiTiK | exatly |
| 00:07.45 | MiT-MiTiK | it jups like a cm on the left |
| 00:07.52 | phh | i have no clue about that ... |
| 00:08.06 | MiT-MiTiK | is maybe couse the different resolution |
| 00:08.18 | townkat | but it was ok few versions before, am i right mitik ? |
| 00:08.31 | townkat | few months ago |
| 00:08.33 | MiT-MiTiK | the 0.1 the old one was fine |
| 00:08.42 | townkat | yeah |
| 00:08.51 | MiT-MiTiK | i notice the same |
| 00:09.02 | phh | ergh |
| 00:09.10 | MiT-MiTiK | than i said to tux but he probably did not find anyone who fix it |
| 00:09.11 | MiT-MiTiK | lol |
| 00:09.23 | townkat | :) |
| 00:09.34 | auss81 | lol |
| 00:10.08 | MiT-MiTiK | is it possible to give at the touch a 0.1 seconds of lag on the response ? |
| 00:10.33 | phh | not easily. |
| 00:10.37 | MiT-MiTiK | couse is like the first 0.1 is jumping 1 cm to the left and than is good and precise |
| 00:11.07 | phh | if it worked some time ago, we can git bissect it. |
| 00:11.16 | MiT-MiTiK | with stylus is better, but not perfect and i think anyone wants not to use the stylus if is possible |
| 00:11.38 | townkat | yup |
| 00:11.43 | townkat | if its in the kernel |
| 00:11.45 | MiT-MiTiK | it worked fine the version before tux's (lol) |
| 00:11.49 | townkat | exactly |
| 00:12.05 | townkat | i am sure the bug apeared in the period tux was playing with it |
| 00:12.07 | phh | townkat: arf ... sounds possible ... |
| 00:12.15 | phh | (the 'if in kernel' thing) |
| 00:12.22 | MiT-MiTiK | no no townkat tux never played with it lol |
| 00:12.29 | townkat | :) |
| 00:13.23 | MiT-MiTiK | god i cant stop eating peanuts |
| 00:16.01 | klinux | time to sleep |
| 00:16.12 | phh | oh you too ? :p |
| 00:16.20 | Goten_ | same here.. :p |
| 00:17.10 | MiT-MiTiK | no guys befor sleeping u have to fix gps :) |
| 00:17.35 | MiT-MiTiK | lol |
| 00:17.41 | auss81 | :D |
| 00:18.15 | Goten_ | bairro did an hardreset.. still not working |
| 00:18.28 | auss81 | hell |
| 00:21.33 | townkat | are there any wvga android devices out yet ? |
| 00:23.25 | MiT-MiTiK | phh are u still here ? |
| 00:23.25 | MiT-MiTiK | i remembered i installed a cab that modify the camera |
| 00:23.34 | MiT-MiTiK | to set the zoom on |
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| 00:27.40 | auss81 | I'm confused.... I hope it is not a hardware problem.... maybe the driver overloaded the cam... |
| 00:30.13 | tpr_m900 | cam maybe need allocated memory in kernel |
| 00:30.40 | tpr_m900 | on samsung, there is something like that |
| 00:36.42 | itchy8me | k, so my device just randomly reset back into windows boot while loading the kernel.. thats not supposed to beable to happen is it? |
| 00:43.20 | auss81 | time to go to bed |
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| 01:08.06 | AstainHellbring | hiya |
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| 02:57.30 | spirits-sight | any breakthrough on boatloader or any other aspect of the htc kasier phone? |
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| 03:39.07 | tpr_m900 | nope |
| 03:39.47 | tpr_m900 | ok, gpio detection is now correct for s3c6410 =) |
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| 06:50.02 | tpr_m900 | watch gpios/irqs is not |
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| 08:36.20 | dinamic | hi folks |
| 08:37.44 | dinamic | i just tried out android on my htc diamond and im amazed.. anyway, i do some development and want to contribute but lacks the knowledge of android |
| 08:38.47 | dinamic | is there any documentations out there describing the linux kernel, android integration= |
| 08:38.50 | dinamic | ? |
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| 08:51.13 | |Jason8| | dinamic: perhaps #android-root or #android-dev might help you better? :) |
| 08:52.42 | dinamic | |Jason8|, thanx.. |
| 08:53.05 | |Jason8| | Not sure whether either are active at the moment |
| 08:53.08 | |Jason8| | but I'd go there. |
| 08:53.48 | dinamic | mm ok, soo this chan is more for the userbase of htc-linux port? |
| 08:54.17 | |Jason8| | Well this is a dev channel, too. |
| 08:54.29 | |Jason8| | but it's pretty much dead, so I gave you other options. |
| 08:54.51 | dinamic | :) aah ok |
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| 08:56.29 | dinamic | Of what i have understand the powermanagement does not work in the htc linux , is someone working on that? |
| 08:56.55 | dinamic | i have browsed around the xda and connetct-utb forum.. but no answere where found |
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| 09:37.37 | tids2k | anyone know how long will dhl courier take from uk to oz + |
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| 10:13.34 | tmzt | dinamic: contribute what? |
| 10:13.41 | MiT-MiTiK | gmorning |
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| 10:17.06 | dinamic | tmzt, to the porting of linux kernel to htc |
| 10:17.43 | tmzt | for? |
| 10:17.57 | tmzt | you have to be able interact with |
| 10:18.10 | tmzt | ethe device and radio firmware |
| 10:18.28 | tmzt | android just uses a few extensions to standard linux |
| 10:18.54 | dinamic | tmzt, is those extensions documented some where? |
| 10:19.22 | tmzt | some what |
| 10:19.24 | tmzt | why? |
| 10:19.51 | dinamic | tmzt, to extend my knowledge.. |
| 10:20.47 | tmzt | of course |
| 10:21.00 | tpr_m900 | in google sdk |
| 10:21.11 | tmzt | it's not well documented to my knowledge outside of the source |
| 10:21.26 | tmzt | ask in #android for aosp stuff |
| 10:22.06 | tmzt | android.gut.kernel.org and source.android.com have a way to browse source |
| 10:22.18 | tmzt | s/gut/git |
| 10:22.25 | dinamic | mm ok, anyway, i havent yet checked into source yet.. thought there was a shortcut :) |
| 10:22.48 | dinamic | tmzt, ill take a glimps at that, thx for pointing me at a direction.. |
| 10:22.49 | tmzt | )] |
| 10:22.49 | tmzt | 12:45 -!- deific_entity |
| 10:24.01 | tmzt | uh |
| 10:25.04 | deific_entity | yes.. hi :) |
| 10:26.46 | deific_entity | just looking around.. if I could learn something... sick of having winmo on my hd since jan.. |
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| 10:46.34 | MiT-MiTiK | can someone update the android part on th wiki for blackstone in xda ? |
| 10:47.12 | MiT-MiTiK | here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux |
| 10:47.38 | auss81 | gmorning. yes we have to update progresses in the blackstone wiki |
| 10:49.15 | MiT-MiTiK | do u want the honor auss81 ? |
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| 10:51.21 | auss81 | MiT-MiTiK: lol I don't know how to update, I haven't never done it :( |
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| 10:52.32 | MiT-MiTiK | me neither :) |
| 10:52.50 | MiT-MiTiK | but there's a edit botton at the end of the page |
| 10:53.32 | auss81 | I saw it, so what it is needed to be updated? |
| 10:55.27 | MiT-MiTiK | dont know really but i'm trying |
| 10:55.36 | auss81 | :) |
| 10:56.03 | MiT-MiTiK | i changed the "working list to try... let's see |
| 10:56.23 | MiT-MiTiK | ok :) |
| 10:56.30 | MiT-MiTiK | now i try the rest |
| 10:57.52 | auss81 | good :) |
| 11:02.17 | MiT-MiTiK | done |
| 11:02.24 | MiT-MiTiK | check it pls |
| 11:02.32 | MiT-MiTiK | and say me if u have suggestions |
| 11:09.43 | auss81 | ok I'm checking |
| 11:11.28 | auss81 | good, I think that at the moment your modifications are good and clear |
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| 11:13.49 | MiT-MiTiK | we need some screenshots |
| 11:13.58 | MiT-MiTiK | also in landscape mode |
| 11:14.06 | MiT-MiTiK | to put them in the thread |
| 11:14.30 | tmzt | deific_entity: just pasted in putty on wm |
| 11:15.32 | auss81 | right, I can try, bu only this afernoon, when my digican we'll be available..... |
| 11:39.01 | auss81 | lunch time |
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| 12:07.00 | aavan | hello everybody |
| 12:09.05 | aavan | Do you know if it's possible to reboot android from a terminal ? "shutdown -t now" killed everything, but the device froze :( (on a Blackstone) |
| 12:18.25 | itchy8me | aavan: it's not possible no, all process terminate i think so it's a safe bet to do that first and then reset the device |
| 12:18.38 | itchy8me | terminate if you do shutdown i mean |
| 12:25.25 | MiT-MiTiK | aavan do this |
| 12:25.28 | MiT-MiTiK | from terminal |
| 12:25.29 | MiT-MiTiK | mount -tdebugfs none /dbgfs |
| 12:25.38 | MiT-MiTiK | and then echo 0 > /dbgfs/vreg/msmp |
| 12:25.49 | MiT-MiTiK | it will reboot |
| 12:28.07 | MiT-MiTiK | does it work ? |
| 12:31.20 | aavan | I'll in a few MiT-MiTiK, I'm trying again to make that wifi work |
| 12:31.49 | aavan | I did a full sweep of the sd, re-copying all the android files now |
| 12:33.11 | aavan | but it'll help a lot if your command works, since I love to fiddle on my phone using putty, I sometimes don't want to go back to the good old "take the back cover off and push on the reset button" ;) |
| 12:36.46 | aavan | oh by the way, I read you wanted some screenshots for the blackstone wiki, MiT-MiTiK ? |
| 12:45.41 | MiT-MiTiK | yes i do |
| 12:45.53 | MiT-MiTiK | if u have u can send me at cerato@lodovico.it |
| 12:46.49 | aavan | I can make all the screenshot you want |
| 12:48.16 | aavan | hooray, wifi is working ! seems the old data.img was breaking something |
| 12:51.02 | MiT-MiTiK | i dont know, for someone was working also before |
| 12:53.32 | aavan | weird, here it worked a bit, but then I tried a new version and it stopped working, it was not even able to get the wifi mac address |
| 12:57.49 | aavan | hmmm, it seems the usb debugging sometimes stops from working suddenly |
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| 13:07.39 | MiT-MiTiK | sometimes it works some other it does not |
| 13:07.47 | MiT-MiTiK | especially when the battery is fully charged |
| 13:09.23 | MiT-MiTiK | are u using linux on a vmware ? |
| 13:09.32 | aavan | no |
| 13:09.38 | aavan | I'm using adb and ddms on windows |
| 13:09.44 | MiT-MiTiK | ah ok |
| 13:11.44 | aavan | I've sent you an email with 5 screenshots, MiT-MiTiK |
| 13:12.15 | MiT-MiTiK | super :) |
| 13:12.39 | aavan | fullscreen size (480*800) thanks to ddms |
| 13:13.28 | MiT-MiTiK | downloading |
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| 13:17.20 | MiT-MiTiK | very good screenshots aavan |
| 13:17.32 | aavan | there is still too much "out of memory" problems unfortunately, otherwise it's very useable |
| 13:18.09 | MiT-MiTiK | uploading them on my ftp and then i post them |
| 13:18.16 | aavan | thanks, but I'm just using android tools ;) |
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| 13:28.32 | MiT-MiTiK | ok done tnx aavan |
| 13:29.23 | aavan | np MiT-MiTiK :) |
| 13:40.23 | auss81 | MiT-MiTiK: do you think a corrupted spl can compromise camera? |
| 13:42.40 | MiT-MiTiK | i have no idea |
| 13:42.54 | MiT-MiTiK | it's really strangew what that guy had on his phone |
| 13:43.09 | MiT-MiTiK | i mean also my camera was not working yesterday |
| 13:43.18 | MiT-MiTiK | but with a hard reset was fine |
| 13:43.34 | auss81 | Yep I would say it's almost unreal |
| 13:43.48 | MiT-MiTiK | and i did not get any message of error, the application was simply not opening |
| 13:44.02 | aavan | mmmh, I'm checking the android memory usage of my blackstone via ddms sysinfo, can anybody tell me what is the "inactive" memory and the "unknown" ? does it refer to an inactive memory bank ? and the "unknown" would be memory used by winmo ? or is it something else ? because these 2 blocks use 34% of the memory... (15.940 kB for the inactive and 13.848 kB for the unknown) |
| 13:44.09 | MiT-MiTiK | i'm sorry for him, but i dont think android is the cause of it |
| 13:44.36 | auss81 | very strange...BTW I agree with you |
| 13:44.50 | MiT-MiTiK | aavan booh maybe swap memory ? |
| 13:45.04 | MiT-MiTiK | (i have no clue what i'm talking about :)) |
| 13:45.25 | auss81 | yes probably the swap partition is fs |
| 13:45.34 | auss81 | ? |
| 13:46.27 | MiT-MiTiK | auss81 u have to wait fot phh |
| 13:46.43 | MiT-MiTiK | idle : 13hrs 30mins 25secs |
| 13:46.52 | MiT-MiTiK | i think he will be soon here |
| 13:46.54 | auss81 | sure :) |
| 13:48.17 | aavan | I'm going to check with meminfo, the memory usage graph from ddms is not sufficiently precise in my opinion |
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| 13:49.21 | auss81 | job is calling me :( see you later |
| 13:50.16 | MiT-MiTiK | bye |
| 13:51.57 | aavan | mmmh, the "inactive" section is not part of the swap |
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| 14:32.23 | aavan | by the way, thanks for the reset command, MiT-MiTiK it works great |
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| 14:35.47 | MiT-MiTiK | :) just copied and pasted what phh told me yesterday |
| 14:35.55 | MiT-MiTiK | i'm a monkey :) |
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| 16:14.28 | MiT-MiTiK | aavan |
| 16:14.51 | MiT-MiTiK | can u pass me a link to the data.img u modified today ? |
| 16:14.59 | MiT-MiTiK | i stick it in the post |
| 16:15.30 | MiT-MiTiK | if wifi il better with that we can update it all |
| 16:18.17 | JDShadowline | and also go into the future and get me working topaz android |
| 16:18.27 | JDShadowline | ill lend you my flux capacitor |
| 16:18.38 | MiT-MiTiK | lol |
| 16:20.14 | JDShadowline | but you will have to find your own delorian as I was racing mine and accidentally jumped it into 2138 when i hit 88mph.... |
| 16:22.00 | aavan | I didn't modify it at all, I just erased my old data.img and replaced it with the link in the first post, MiT-MiTiK |
| 16:24.23 | MiT-MiTiK | ah ok |
| 16:24.28 | MiT-MiTiK | i misunderstood |
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| 16:33.32 | HardDisk_WP | Hi |
| 16:33.40 | HardDisk_WP | whats the state of linux on HTC Magician? |
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| 17:08.41 | aavan | ok guys, I'm going back home :) |
| 17:08.53 | aavan | MiT-MiTiK, if you need something, you got my email address ;) |
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| 17:40.26 | MiT-MiTiK | yep :) |
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| 17:57.47 | phh | <itchy8me> k, so my device just randomly reset back into windows boot while loading the kernel.. thats not supposed to beable to happen is it? <---- i never got such cases on my diam, but blackstone seems weirder very day for me. But maybe it's linked to a broken SD card ? |
| 17:58.42 | MiT-MiTiK | welcome back phh |
| 17:58.51 | MiT-MiTiK | i added some screeshots |
| 17:58.58 | MiT-MiTiK | and update the blackstone wiki |
| 17:59.23 | phh | <dinamic> Of what i have understand the powermanagement does not work in the htc linux , is someone working on that? <---- god, it's totally wrong, it works really well. I can do a whole day with one full charge, and if i apply my own wiki page's recommandation, i get from 32% at 10am to 20% at 6pm. |
| 18:00.15 | MiT-MiTiK | and that's very good with diamond battery |
| 18:00.16 | phh | (the 100% -> 32% from 7am30 to 10am is because i forgot to reboot after disabling bluetooth, totally breaking sleep :( ) |
| 18:00.32 | phh | i've doublesized battery and no data connection, it helps "a bit". |
| 18:00.33 | MiT-MiTiK | i had diamond before blackstone and i remember the battery was really shot |
| 18:00.36 | MiT-MiTiK | short |
| 18:01.45 | auss81 | in WinMo Black battery is quite long with stock roms |
| 18:01.58 | phh | and no mail push. |
| 18:02.06 | phh | mail push really kills the battery |
| 18:02.13 | phh | <MiT-MiTiK> and then echo 0 > /dbgfs/vreg/msmp |
| 18:02.13 | phh | <MiT-MiTiK> it will reboot |
| 18:02.14 | phh | err |
| 18:02.21 | phh | even if i gave this command to you, it's *really* not advised |
| 18:02.55 | auss81 | mail push keeps data alwas on, right? |
| 18:02.55 | phh | it was just the first thing that came to my mind to go from linux to WiMo without killing power to test if it could restore camera/volume keys |
| 18:03.14 | phh | auss81: i don't know enough about these dataconnection |
| 18:03.36 | MiT-MiTiK | oki |
| 18:03.38 | phh | as far as i understand, having it enabled or not doesn't change anything, just a keep alive to send every 30minutes for google mail, 10minutes for activesync |
| 18:04.29 | phh | so windows mobile getting poor battery with mail push is, i think, a programming error. I'll maybe try one day on android |
| 18:05.17 | phh | <aavan> there is still too much "out of memory" problems unfortunately, otherwise it's very useable <------ about this issue, can anyone check the "free" command and see if swap is enabled ? |
| 18:05.22 | phh | for blackstones |
| 18:05.56 | MiT-MiTiK | he was speaking about the screenshot aplication i think |
| 18:06.06 | phh | ah. |
| 18:06.11 | phh | anyway, please do this command :p |
| 18:06.20 | MiT-MiTiK | anyway if u want i boot linux and see |
| 18:07.00 | phh | it's for your own comfort you know :p |
| 18:07.00 | MiT-MiTiK | i'm on it |
| 18:08.25 | phh | god your thread is so active ... |
| 18:09.24 | auss81 | hehe you can bet it :) |
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| 18:11.45 | MiT-MiTiK | ok |
| 18:11.50 | MiT-MiTiK | done free |
| 18:12.13 | MiT-MiTiK | swap 21536 total 2756 used 18780 free |
| 18:12.25 | phh | auss81: ohhh thanks for the donation ! |
| 18:12.29 | phh | MiT-MiTiK: ok so it works |
| 18:12.48 | phh | so it could be worst :p |
| 18:12.48 | MiT-MiTiK | ok |
| 18:13.00 | MiT-MiTiK | did u read this ? <aavan> mmmh, I'm checking the android memory usage of my blackstone via ddms sysinfo, can anybody tell me what is the "inactive" memory and the "unknown" ? does it refer to an inactive memory bank ? and the "unknown" would be memory used by winmo ? or is it something else ? because these 2 blocks use 34% of the memory... (15.940 kB for the inactive and 13.848 kB for the unknown) |
| 18:13.01 | MiT-MiTiK | [14:43] <MiT-MiTiK> i'm sorry for him, but i dont think android is the cause of it |
| 18:13.17 | phh | i don't use ddms either |
| 18:13.24 | MiT-MiTiK | ops last line copied by mistake |
| 18:14.30 | MiT-MiTiK | have u seen what nice screenshots aavan made ? |
| 18:14.38 | MiT-MiTiK | are un post #2 |
| 18:15.54 | phh | ah no |
| 18:16.04 | phh | i'm still reading the new posts :p |
| 18:16.21 | phh | 800x480 seems huge -_- |
| 18:16.39 | phh | little question, how do you get fullscreen wall papers ? |
| 18:16.50 | MiT-MiTiK | aavan did |
| 18:16.53 | MiT-MiTiK | i dont know |
| 18:17.00 | phh | ok |
| 18:17.08 | phh | i'm having 50% of grey when i try :/ |
| 18:17.58 | tpr_m900 | yes 800x480 is huge |
| 18:18.12 | tpr_m900 | less than 1mm for an haret fb line |
| 18:18.14 | tpr_m900 | :p |
| 18:18.29 | tpr_m900 | hard to read :) |
| 18:18.56 | tpr_m900 | on my 3.8" screen |
| 18:19.13 | tpr_m900 | hello |
| 18:19.15 | auss81 | I simply go in wallpapers, select a picture and the software itself allows me to make a selection of the picture....I select full and in the home I have a fullscreen wallp |
| 18:19.39 | tpr_m900 | :) phh, i can finally use haret for gpios |
| 18:19.39 | phh | there is a "full" option ... ? |
| 18:19.45 | tpr_m900 | on the acer |
| 18:19.58 | phh | tpr_m900: cool even if i still don't know what you're working on :p |
| 18:20.24 | tpr_m900 | s3c64xx support |
| 18:20.56 | tpr_m900 | i fixed dma shutdown, i m able to reset usb |
| 18:21.11 | auss81 | nope but there is a sort of "editor" that allows me to expand a selection square on the pict..... it works only with pics |
| 18:21.20 | phh | oh ok |
| 18:25.50 | itchy8me | phh: its possible that its my sd card, i've been deleting files and adding files alot on the thing |
| 18:26.00 | phh | itchy8me: i think so yes |
| 18:26.12 | phh | if you have a linux, run badblocks on it |
| 18:26.24 | itchy8me | shweet :) |
| 18:27.50 | phh | I'm doing a mega answer post of the day questions. |
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| 18:28.06 | phh | to all blackstone users, have you tried autonomy ? |
| 18:28.17 | itchy8me | woz autonomy? |
| 18:28.34 | auss81 | battery |
| 18:28.40 | NetRipper | tpr_m900, kevin = Kevin2, my name is martijn |
| 18:28.54 | NetRipper | :) |
| 18:29.18 | phh | isn't it called autonomy in english ? damn |
| 18:29.38 | phh | anyway battery life length :p |
| 18:30.09 | itchy8me | tried it 3 days ago.. it lasted a night |
| 18:30.23 | itchy8me | from full to empty |
| 18:30.30 | auss81 | yes, phh you right it's autonomy in english...even if i'm italian :p |
| 18:30.36 | itchy8me | lol |
| 18:30.43 | itchy8me | haven't heard of it before |
| 18:30.51 | phh | itchy8me: which sort of a night ? :p |
| 18:31.16 | phh | for me it can be from 6hours to 12 so ... :p |
| 18:31.33 | itchy8me | lol |
| 18:31.58 | itchy8me | good question.. from about 02:00 - 09:00 |
| 18:32.09 | itchy8me | was allready dead when i woke up thjough |
| 18:32.24 | phh | you know it lasted to 09:00 ? |
| 18:32.35 | phh | or you know it lasted less than 7hours ? |
| 18:32.47 | itchy8me | nope.. only that when i woke up at 09:00 it was had died |
| 18:32.52 | itchy8me | less than |
| 18:33.05 | phh | ok :/ |
| 18:33.16 | auss81 | i have to say the truth... I passed 2 full days trying android that i wasn't able to charge completely the battery :p |
| 18:34.05 | MiT-MiTiK | is away, Open Socket To Real Life [log:OFF] [page:OFF] |
| 18:34.24 | itchy8me | that was with the lcd off. but the backlight was still glowing |
| 18:35.23 | auss81 | yep it seems that on lcd only pixels are off, but backlight is on |
| 18:36.48 | phh | You should disable all sounds about "selection", "checking" and "scrolling" in settings. |
| 18:36.48 | phh | We all know those audio problems, but the Kernel is an entire "work in progress" so we should have patience |
| 18:37.07 | phh | well this hasn't been reported by anyone to me, so it's wasn't a known problem for me /o\ |
| 18:37.13 | phh | but i have some clues on how to do that. |
| 18:37.22 | itchy8me | the backlight you mean? |
| 18:37.31 | tpr_m900 | NetRipper: oh... |
| 18:37.57 | tpr_m900 | dont remember to have seen him... here |
| 18:38.00 | phh | itchy8me: audio problem |
| 18:38.08 | phh | for screen, not many clues yet. |
| 18:38.23 | itchy8me | oh :) |
| 18:38.46 | itchy8me | whats upo with the audio then? |
| 18:38.59 | phh | i've clues, doesn't mean anything is done yet :p |
| 18:39.30 | itchy8me | haha nooo.. i mean whats the problem, it works.. is it supposed to sleep or somethign to save power? |
| 18:39.38 | auss81 | about audio, is a popping sound when the speaker activate or deactivate, but the "in between"sound is good and normal |
| 18:39.55 | phh | auss81: yes i mean about this popping sound |
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| 18:40.13 | phh | afaik raphael/diamond's code keeps speaker on when activated, not just when used |
| 18:40.23 | itchy8me | wouldn't that be the speaker switching on and off? |
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| 18:42.27 | auss81 | itchy8me: yes the speaker is activated only when needed, so the switching creates that "pop". |
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| 18:43.13 | tpr_m900 | NetRipper: do you have access to git ? |
| 18:43.21 | tpr_m900 | (you can push ?) |
| 18:48.49 | auss81 | phh: about the donation, it is really due! Because you and the other devs are doing a great work! Also for our Blackstone! It's my little way to say thanks and suppor the project :) |
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| 18:53.33 | townkat | MiT-MiTiK, nice screenshots ;) |
| 18:53.44 | townkat | phh, did you asked cr2 today ? |
| 18:54.33 | phh | no |
| 18:54.44 | phh | hadn't much time yet |
| 18:55.29 | townkat | ok |
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| 18:59.12 | tpr_m900 | ok hmmm, my haret version is there : http://tanguy.ath.cx/?q=M900 |
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| 19:08.31 | tpr_m900 | ok, wiki pages updated... |
| 19:11.45 | NetRipper | tpr_m900, yes |
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| 19:25.44 | tpr_m900 | but, i think watch gpios is not working... |
| 19:25.59 | tpr_m900 | values are correct, but it doesnt detect changes |
| 19:26.29 | tpr_m900 | but i never tried the change detect on other devices ;) |
| 19:33.02 | NetRipper | maybe wrong addresses? |
| 19:33.34 | NetRipper | or |
| 19:33.37 | NetRipper | if it doesn't detect changes |
| 19:33.45 | NetRipper | maybe irq addresses are wrong |
| 19:33.58 | NetRipper | does wirq detect changes? |
| 19:34.38 | tpr_m900 | no |
| 19:34.44 | tpr_m900 | but wirq 1 works |
| 19:34.54 | tpr_m900 | "watch irqs" no |
| 19:35.01 | NetRipper | no i mean |
| 19:35.05 | NetRipper | wirq 10 |
| 19:35.12 | tpr_m900 | wirq 10 works nice |
| 19:35.13 | NetRipper | you should get lots of triggers |
| 19:35.15 | NetRipper | ok |
| 19:35.37 | tpr_m900 | i removed USB OTG from irq mask |
| 19:35.47 | tpr_m900 | 6200 irqs in 1 sec :) |
| 19:35.52 | NetRipper | yea heh |
| 19:36.28 | tpr_m900 | haret just dont detect changes correctly |
| 19:36.45 | tpr_m900 | dunno if its the git version which is broken... |
| 19:36.47 | NetRipper | im not exactly sure how that part works |
| 19:37.35 | tpr_m900 | is there a "haret" project for linux ? :p |
| 19:37.48 | NetRipper | eh? |
| 19:37.54 | NetRipper | for android to boot wince? |
| 19:37.54 | NetRipper | :P |
| 19:37.55 | tpr_m900 | (for my kaiser) |
| 19:38.02 | tpr_m900 | no... to trace gpios |
| 19:38.11 | tpr_m900 | and memory |
| 19:38.18 | NetRipper | kaiser is already supported by haret |
| 19:38.30 | NetRipper | afaik |
| 19:38.33 | tpr_m900 | yes i know that |
| 19:38.41 | tpr_m900 | ;) |
| 19:39.07 | tpr_m900 | i'm in htc-vogue team |
| 19:39.37 | NetRipper | um ok, that doesn't make me understand the question :P |
| 19:40.24 | tpr_m900 | nevermind... i've the linux telnet to do that |
| 19:42.07 | NetRipper | i still dont get it, but.. haretconsole works for bothw indows and linux? |
| 19:42.07 | NetRipper | :) |
| 19:42.12 | NetRipper | so you dont need telnet |
| 19:42.24 | tpr_m900 | i dont want to debug wince gpios |
| 19:42.33 | tpr_m900 | but linux ones ;) |
| 19:42.37 | NetRipper | ahhh |
| 19:42.38 | NetRipper | ok |
| 19:42.38 | NetRipper | :) |
| 19:42.46 | tpr_m900 | and irqs |
| 19:42.57 | NetRipper | cat /proc/irqs :P |
| 19:43.00 | NetRipper | but no activity ;p |
| 19:43.14 | tpr_m900 | yea, something like that |
| 19:43.30 | tpr_m900 | only haret can do that from memory |
| 19:43.41 | tpr_m900 | (i think) |
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| 19:43.59 | NetRipper | yes ce doesn't have memory protection |
| 19:44.04 | NetRipper | for linux you'd have to write a kernel module to do that |
| 19:44.31 | tpr_m900 | dev/pmem |
| 19:44.42 | tpr_m900 | can do that, like haret |
| 19:44.46 | NetRipper | ah |
| 19:44.54 | NetRipper | in that case you need root instead |
| 19:44.54 | NetRipper | :) |
| 19:44.55 | tpr_m900 | to read memory |
| 19:44.58 | tpr_m900 | sure |
| 19:45.32 | tpr_m900 | but that need a software :) like haret |
| 19:45.40 | tpr_m900 | to make the terminal |
| 19:45.51 | NetRipper | yes |
| 19:49.34 | GlemSom | Are we shipping a calibrationfile with the android builds now? |
| 19:52.03 | phh | GlemSom: yes, even if i still dislike it |
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| 20:35.56 | MiT-_-zzZ | phh |
| 20:36.08 | MiT-MiTiK | any news to add at the post ? |
| 20:36.14 | MiT-MiTiK | i just came back |
| 20:36.14 | phh | lol no |
| 20:36.26 | phh | i'm a student i've some work to do sometime you know :p |
| 20:36.35 | MiT-MiTiK | good so i can play dark age of camelot :) |
| 20:36.55 | MiT-MiTiK | i was working also till now :) |
| 20:37.29 | MiT-MiTiK | of course i did not mean to say "cmon !!! work on the project!!!" |
| 20:37.39 | MiT-MiTiK | get your ass in it!!! |
| 20:37.39 | MiT-MiTiK | lol |
| 20:38.02 | MiT-MiTiK | i just asked if there were some news, couse i'm the only one who can modify the post : |
| 20:38.04 | MiT-MiTiK | :) |
| 20:38.39 | phh | don't ask too often i mean :p |
| 20:39.13 | MiT-MiTiK | i just want to keep the people updated :) |
| 20:39.27 | MiT-MiTiK | sorry if i sounded asshole |
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| 20:57.15 | phh | GlemSom: oh you succeeded doing this two git at a time thing, good work and thanks ! |
| 20:58.53 | itchy8me | phh : what you studying? |
| 20:58.56 | GlemSom | phh, Your, I like having all development in ONE place.. Instead of me using one version of compat-wireless - and you using another... and etc... :) |
| 21:00.30 | phh | itchy8me: well it's a strange thing typically french, basically i currently study mainly basic physics, maths and chemistry before going to more specialized school |
| 21:00.59 | itchy8me | okay.. same as in holland i think..?.. how old are you then? |
| 21:01.03 | phh | 2& |
| 21:01.05 | phh | 21* |
| 21:01.23 | itchy8me | okay thats not the same.. sounds klike a great package though :-D |
| 21:01.23 | phh | what i've heard is that it exists only in france, but it's only rumors :p |
| 21:01.55 | itchy8me | nol languages or such.. only sciencwes? |
| 21:02.28 | phh | 2 hours/week +1hour/2week as oral tests of foreign languages and 2hours/week of litteracy |
| 21:02.41 | itchy8me | yikes.. sounds hectic |
| 21:02.55 | itchy8me | languages and sciences |
| 21:03.15 | itchy8me | its a pre for university or something? |
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| 21:04.12 | phh | and at the end of the year i'll have some "exams": every knowledge tested in less than one week. to be done something like 3 or 4 times because of diffrerent high-school (i'm not sure of the correct name in english...), groups |
| 21:04.19 | phh | yes kind of pre university |
| 21:04.32 | phh | but it also selects who goes where. |
| 21:05.29 | phh | maybe wikipedia has a good explanation :D |
| 21:05.43 | phh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_pr%C3%A9paratoire_aux_grandes_%C3%A9coles |
| 21:06.47 | phh | they don't even translate the title :p |
| 21:07.25 | itchy8me | lol.. yeah aren't the frech anti english or somethiung ? :-p |
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| 21:08.21 | phh | we use too many english words, we had to take a little revenge ;) |
| 21:08.22 | itchy8me | wow.. sounds like a good system |
| 21:08.28 | itchy8me | lol |
| 21:10.16 | BabelO | hi |
| 21:10.22 | BabelO | pH5: around ? |
| 21:11.54 | phh | it's a strange system, but at least we work, not as many other french people : |
| 21:11.56 | phh | :D* |
| 21:12.27 | itchy8me | could say the same for the dutch schools |
| 21:12.52 | itchy8me | lot of people doing nothing at school |
| 21:13.19 | itchy8me | but yeah i think ythew system sucks here anyway, specially the engineering side |
| 21:13.36 | phh | once we passed this "exams", we almost stop working |
| 21:13.59 | phh | well "stop" working is relative. |
| 21:14.20 | itchy8me | lol ...how so? |
| 21:15.27 | phh | it means that after the previous working years, school seems more relaxant, even if there is still some work |
| 21:15.53 | itchy8me | oh right.. you about to finish your first year then? |
| 21:16.16 | itchy8me | (trying to compare it to dutch school system) |
| 21:16.26 | phh | no it's the second year |
| 21:16.30 | phh | (second second actually.) |
| 21:17.09 | GlemSom | I've read that last post by xaoc747 on xda 5 times now.. I still don't understand it... :/ |
| 21:18.51 | phh | GlemSom: he just don't understand what your build system is |
| 21:19.08 | phh | oh the last. |
| 21:19.13 | phh | i was reading the before last |
| 21:19.34 | phh | yup it's not english. |
| 21:20.07 | phh | and it's lazyness. |
| 21:21.28 | phh | GlemSom: you even updated the wiki page :) |
| 21:21.42 | GlemSom | phh, Yeap! :) |
| 21:25.17 | GlemSom | ohh, ramzswap and xvmalloc isn't being build... I totaly forgot about that.. |
| 21:25.58 | GlemSom | Android seems to boot fine though :P |
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| 21:27.34 | phh | GlemSom: ramzswap compress some part of the RAM, so it "saves" ~ 15MB of RAM |
| 21:27.39 | phh | which is nice to have with android |
| 21:27.59 | phh | especially for blackstone which has poor memory layout currently. |
| 21:28.54 | GlemSom | phh, Ok, I will have a look at that tomorow |
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| 21:29.54 | phh | now all i have to do is to fix wifi driver bugs :D |
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| 21:31.28 | GlemSom | phh, I guess compcache-0.5.4 is the safest to use atm? |
| 21:32.12 | phh | i didn't get compcache 0.6.0 building |
| 21:32.18 | phh | i can't remember why |
| 21:33.42 | GlemSom | I'm unsure on how much development is done on compcache... I don't think there's any need we fork it? |
| 21:33.49 | phh | no |
| 21:34.09 | phh | ramzswap "just works" currently |
| 21:34.19 | GlemSom | Great, I'll stick with 0.5.4 for now... Hopefully I'll get that done tomorow... :P |
| 21:34.40 | phh | only some cutting edge features needs 0.6.0, we really can live without these :p |
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| 22:25.30 | itchy8me | does anyone know a good tutorial for getting xserver running on top of a debootstrap'ped distro for a device like the blackstone? |
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| 22:43.45 | tpr_m900 | nope, i dont know if x can run on the current framebuffer |
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| 22:46.27 | itchy8me | the epson fb thingie? |
| 22:46.53 | tpr_m900 | yes, like the one used to boot |
| 22:47.27 | itchy8me | i have it built into the kernel and it boots all the way to prompt |
| 22:48.22 | tpr_m900 | yes, i dont really know how xserver interract with that |
| 22:48.33 | tpr_m900 | i only tested android on my device |
| 22:49.12 | itchy8me | when i try and run xorg it loads, screen goes vblank and then exists with the folowing http://pastebin.com/m573bdff9 |
| 22:49.26 | itchy8me | does android run on the xserver? |
| 22:49.51 | tpr_m900 | i think its specific |
| 22:50.06 | tpr_m900 | maybe based on that |
| 22:50.10 | itchy8me | xserver moulded for android? |
| 22:53.01 | tpr_m900 | did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:54.38 | itchy8me | ya thats the one posted above |
| 22:55.07 | itchy8me | (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument |
| 22:55.09 | itchy8me | (EE) FBDEV(0): mode initialization failed |
| 22:55.27 | itchy8me | and then |
| 22:55.30 | itchy8me | Fatal server error: |
| 22:55.32 | itchy8me | AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0 |
| 22:55.38 | tpr_m900 | maybe a memory problem |
| 22:55.57 | tpr_m900 | 2MB is to low for the virtual 800*480*16 |
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| 22:56.48 | tpr_m900 | need 6mb for that |
| 22:56.58 | itchy8me | virtual 800*600*16.. woz that.. in the xorg.conf? |
| 22:57.27 | tpr_m900 | 800x480*16 wrote in your log (virtual screen size) |
| 22:57.28 | itchy8me | where do i set it to 6Mb? |
| 22:57.46 | itchy8me | heh.. okay i missed that |
| 22:58.04 | Jimk16 | anyone have the droid systrem.img or sprint hero system image? or if i send someone the system files can someone compress them into linux img or sqsh format? |
| 22:58.09 | tpr_m900 | try the real resoltion |
| 22:58.33 | tpr_m900 | Jimk, yes i can convert them |
| 22:58.44 | itchy8me | thats weird.. i have it set to http://pastebin.com/m40aa8ced |
| 22:58.59 | Jimk16 | ok how would you like me to send them or would yu like me to just upload them to a site? |
| 22:59.02 | itchy8me | in xorg.conf |
| 22:59.24 | itchy8me | Modes "320x480" |
| 23:01.54 | Jimk16 | ...? |
| 23:06.09 | Jimk16 | did i miss something? |
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| 23:19.33 | aavan | hi |
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