| 00:02.23 | mdrobnak | Back |
| 00:13.18 | mdrobnak | is about to try out the keymap |
| 00:18.01 | mdrobnak | Partial success! |
| 00:18.11 | mdrobnak | Keycode is wrong for the Fn key |
| 00:18.16 | mdrobnak | But it sort of works :-) |
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| 00:44.07 | tmzt | mdrobnak: yeah |
| 00:44.09 | tmzt | fn doesn't work |
| 00:44.14 | tmzt | we need to map that in the driver |
| 00:44.55 | mdrobnak | one sec |
| 00:44.58 | mdrobnak | almost got something usable |
| 00:45.09 | mdrobnak | hmm |
| 00:45.16 | mdrobnak | some keycodes aren't the same as in Linux |
| 00:45.22 | mdrobnak | so there are some dead keys :-( |
| 00:45.59 | mdrobnak | Right now, Calendar key = Fn |
| 00:46.11 | tmzt | ok |
| 00:46.17 | tmzt | that works |
| 00:46.18 | tmzt | do you have altgr mapping working? |
| 00:46.19 | mdrobnak | But is different from Mer. |
| 00:46.26 | mdrobnak | What do you mean? |
| 00:46.26 | tmzt | what is? |
| 00:46.28 | mdrobnak | So like |
| 00:46.32 | mdrobnak | Well, Fn = Fn in Mer |
| 00:46.34 | mdrobnak | for me |
| 00:46.48 | tmzt | not sure what you mean |
| 00:46.58 | tmzt | I use altgr for symbols, like fn-m is / |
| 00:47.10 | mdrobnak | Ok. |
| 00:47.18 | mdrobnak | Well, the AT&T keypad is mapped weird. |
| 00:47.19 | mdrobnak | So |
| 00:47.28 | mdrobnak | I have to use Fn-Y = 4 |
| 00:47.36 | tmzt | I would say ignore t9 keypad |
| 00:47.37 | mdrobnak | (lower case) |
| 00:47.41 | tmzt | just do it the way you want |
| 00:47.50 | tmzt | but it will be harder without the silkscreen |
| 00:47.51 | mdrobnak | well, this way matches for the most part |
| 00:47.54 | mdrobnak | Exactly |
| 00:48.02 | mdrobnak | I have < and > |
| 00:48.05 | mdrobnak | but no \ or | |
| 00:48.11 | mdrobnak | That key seems dead for some reason |
| 00:48.21 | mdrobnak | I wish I could find out what keycode Android was seeing |
| 00:52.17 | mdrobnak | Eh, close enough for now :-) |
| 00:52.45 | mdrobnak | That's a lot further then I got the last time I tried this. |
| 00:52.45 | mdrobnak | I had to re-create the system.img though |
| 00:53.23 | mdrobnak | I had to make symlinks from /system/user/{keychars,keymaps} to / |
| 00:53.40 | mdrobnak | err /system/usr/keychars to /keychars |
| 00:53.48 | mdrobnak | and /system/usr/keylayout to /keylayout |
| 00:54.12 | mdrobnak | which contain microp-keypad.kcm.bin and .kl respectively |
| 00:55.40 | mdrobnak | (I'll upload them to my site in a minute.. |
| 00:56.31 | mdrobnak | /etc/ppp/ip-up works again.. not sure why it wasn't. |
| 00:56.41 | mdrobnak | Hopefully that helps with the DNS issues. |
| 00:59.00 | mdrobnak | Ok, both files are on my site http://www.drobnak.com/microp-keypad.kl and http://www.drobnak.com/microp-keypad.kcm.bin |
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| 07:32.01 | tmzt | GlemSom: what machines do your builds support? |
| 07:32.49 | GlemSom | tmzt, Diamond and Raphael I guess... And I have a blackstone build there aswell. |
| 07:33.06 | tmzt | raph100 and diam100 |
| 07:33.40 | tmzt | I think you can add raph800 to zImage without breaking it |
| 07:33.49 | tmzt | but sound might not work on raph800 |
| 07:33.59 | tmzt | what is your setup like? |
| 07:34.08 | tmzt | do you build on commit? |
| 07:34.37 | GlemSom | tmzt, Well, mt builds currently contains NO custom patches. They even use the default configuration file (well, squashfs-raphael is the exception here) |
| 07:34.48 | tmzt | no custom |
| 07:34.52 | tmzt | mt? |
| 07:35.01 | tmzt | and squash should be in our kernel |
| 07:35.11 | tmzt | and we can add it to defconfig if needed |
| 07:35.20 | GlemSom | *currently* no custom... Though, I USED to have custom SquashFS patches. But since those patches landed upstream - there's no need for me to maintaim them mysqlf! :P |
| 07:35.35 | GlemSom | tmzt, What is neede for raph800 ? |
| 07:35.37 | tmzt | right ok |
| 07:35.40 | GlemSom | *needed |
| 07:35.56 | tmzt | I would like to have zImage's doe the supported devices |
| 07:36.01 | GlemSom | What is wrong with my keyboard today... I keep misspelling :/ |
| 07:36.31 | tmzt | I hope to commit full raph500 support soon |
| 07:36.51 | GlemSom | cool! :) |
| 07:36.52 | tmzt | it would be nice to have your site be the source for zImages |
| 07:37.08 | tmzt | and we can add you to topic |
| 07:37.29 | tmzt | you have raph100 and diam100 separate? |
| 07:37.39 | tmzt | there's no reason for that |
| 07:37.54 | GlemSom | yeah, they have different default configuration files |
| 07:38.03 | tmzt | mtype determines what machine is booting on |
| 07:38.06 | tmzt | they do? |
| 07:38.16 | tmzt | can you diff them? |
| 07:38.27 | GlemSom | sure, just a sec |
| 07:40.50 | GlemSom | tmzt, http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htcdiamond_android_defconfig_htcraphael_defconfig.diff |
| 07:41.33 | GlemSom | I guess there's a reason why they're not exactly the same... |
| 07:45.39 | tmzt | well |
| 07:45.55 | tmzt | they seem to be defconfig from two different times |
| 07:46.09 | tmzt | the same machines and amss are used in both |
| 07:46.27 | tmzt | for some reason raph is missing htcfb |
| 07:46.38 | tmzt | which should not be the case |
| 07:46.56 | tmzt | so when it fails to boot they will see only black |
| 07:47.13 | tmzt | for testing it's best if defconfig is used on every revision |
| 07:47.22 | tmzt | as I said we can add squashfs to it |
| 07:47.53 | GlemSom | iirc the diamond defconfig was changed on oct 14, due to added squashfs support... |
| 07:48.20 | tmzt | what are these from/for? android builds? |
| 07:48.54 | GlemSom | yeah - some people have reported android running a lot better - when using the squashfs filesystem. |
| 07:49.08 | tmzt | that should be true on raph as well |
| 07:49.18 | tmzt | raph100/diam100 are very similar |
| 07:49.33 | tmzt | there's a seperate board because of how dzo did it |
| 07:50.21 | GlemSom | yeah, the defconfig for diam enables squashfs by default - raph does not... I don't know the reason for this... But I keep my squashfs-raphael brach running till squahfs is enabled by default for raphael |
| 07:51.07 | GlemSom | Maybe we need some cleaning-up in the defconfigs... ? |
| 07:51.22 | tmzt | yeah |
| 07:51.23 | tmzt | we do |
| 07:52.41 | dzo | raph and diam should probably be combined, big difference if the second smi bank on diamond and second ebi bank on raph. |
| 07:52.59 | dzo | s/if/is/ |
| 07:53.21 | GlemSom | heh :P |
| 07:54.48 | GlemSom | dzo, That is defined by mtype? |
| 07:56.04 | dzo | could be, there's no problem having multiple mtypes for a board file, may be better to autodetect it though. |
| 07:56.16 | tmzt | dzo: can you enable squash in htcrapahel-defconfig? |
| 07:56.35 | tmzt | dzo: we have mtypes for raph/diam |
| 07:56.40 | dzo | yes, of course. |
| 07:56.46 | tmzt | it's the bootloaders job to detect it |
| 07:57.14 | tmzt | dzo: any problem with splitting gpio defines into their own file? |
| 07:57.25 | dzo | i meant autodetect the smi/ebi sizes. |
| 07:57.31 | tmzt | trying to clean up my raph500 code |
| 07:57.39 | tmzt | yeah, cr2 is working on that |
| 07:58.04 | dzo | they usually go in board-xxx.h |
| 07:58.42 | tmzt | dzo: in the new gpios.h would be RAPH100_xxxx for the base set and per machine for those that differ |
| 07:58.57 | tmzt | right, but they will have to go in multiple bord.h's now |
| 07:59.44 | tmzt | we already have quite bit of duplication in there |
| 08:00.03 | dzo | we can make a new header file for all the common ones. |
| 08:00.04 | tmzt | we also have to clean up the smi headers unless we can get detection to work |
| 08:00.11 | tmzt | right |
| 08:00.12 | tmzt | ok |
| 08:00.15 | tmzt | same thing |
| 08:01.24 | dzo | have you got the second ebi bank workng on raph yet? |
| 08:01.44 | tmzt | I think only on raph100 |
| 08:02.00 | tmzt | not sure though |
| 08:02.20 | tmzt | what does it work on now? |
| 08:03.06 | dzo | i made some changes to the fb and panel code today, my panel powers on fine now, it's a bit slow but better that it was. |
| 08:03.31 | tmzt | cool |
| 08:05.45 | luc_ | hey guys |
| 08:05.55 | luc_ | can i ask you something? |
| 08:08.04 | tmzt | this is for your diamond? |
| 08:08.40 | luc_ | is about android |
| 08:09.13 | tmzt | ok |
| 08:09.15 | tmzt | ask |
| 08:09.18 | luc_ | is possible to have system img unpacked to an ext3 partition and root that partition |
| 08:09.21 | luc_ | ? |
| 08:09.27 | tmzt | root that? |
| 08:09.43 | luc_ | like not having img files |
| 08:09.50 | luc_ | just an root partition |
| 08:10.12 | luc_ | mount partition as root |
| 08:10.43 | luc_ | and on that image have root and system |
| 08:11.02 | luc_ | and boot with an initrd from fat partition with haret |
| 08:12.36 | tmzt | right |
| 08:12.49 | tmzt | you can extract boot.img and system.img |
| 08:12.58 | tmzt | and change the scripts |
| 08:13.10 | luc_ | aha |
| 08:13.12 | tmzt | you don't need the initrd |
| 08:13.25 | luc_ | no? |
| 08:13.38 | tmzt | no |
| 08:13.51 | luc_ | i did tray without but i'am unable to see the mmc |
| 08:13.59 | tmzt | just have the android /init as /sbin/init |
| 08:14.05 | luc_ | so i can;t mount it |
| 08:14.09 | tmzt | and add rootdelay=1 |
| 08:14.32 | tmzt | or add init=/init |
| 08:14.38 | luc_ | with this config i need /etc/fstab? |
| 08:14.56 | tmzt | but you need android init not the init scripts |
| 08:14.58 | tmzt | no |
| 08:15.04 | tmzt | what device is this? |
| 08:15.15 | luc_ | so mount with init.rc? |
| 08:15.25 | luc_ | diamond :) |
| 08:15.25 | tmzt | don't mount |
| 08:15.34 | luc_ | no? |
| 08:15.44 | luc_ | just point to init? |
| 08:15.46 | tmzt | extract everything to ext2/3/4 |
| 08:15.49 | tmzt | yes |
| 08:16.06 | luc_ | to harte? |
| 08:16.14 | luc_ | haret i mean kernel? |
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| 08:16.30 | luc_ | and i need root=/? |
| 08:16.48 | cr2 | hi |
| 08:16.55 | tmzt | hey |
| 08:17.01 | luc_ | hi |
| 08:17.38 | cr2 | dzo: the second EBI1 bank does not work in android |
| 08:18.01 | dzo | i wonder why? |
| 08:18.03 | cr2 | dzo: but mdrobnak tested the 115MB first EBI1 bank config |
| 08:18.30 | tmzt | only in android? |
| 08:18.37 | cr2 | dzo: it's some memory management bug |
| 08:18.46 | cr2 | tmzt: in linux. |
| 08:19.02 | tmzt | ok |
| 08:19.46 | dzo | are you sure, because it took a while to get multiple banks working on kaiser. |
| 08:20.50 | cr2 | dzo: poor mdrobnak spent about a week trying it :) |
| 08:21.35 | dzo | most be possible (assuming wince uses it) |
| 08:21.42 | cr2 | dzo: the stardard raph100 config is 214MB, but it can use more. but once you want to use android, it dislikes the second bank |
| 08:22.06 | cr2 | dzo: the second bank is ok. no mpu & such. |
| 08:23.43 | dzo | ok, thanks. |
| 08:24.37 | cr2 | dzo: i have added the toshiba panel detection to raph100. but the proper epson panel detection and setup is still missing |
| 08:25.00 | cr2 | will try to do it today, though |
| 08:25.23 | cr2 | bbl |
| 08:25.26 | tmzt | what is the issue with android? |
| 08:25.40 | dzo | ok, do you have to do the strange gpio config stuff on raph too. |
| 08:28.53 | tmzt | which? |
| 08:29.00 | tmzt | cr2 left |
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| 12:05.33 | luc_ | dzo? |
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| 12:42.21 | leviathan | Gnutoo: hi |
| 12:42.34 | Gnutoo | hi |
| 12:42.41 | leviathan | can I get my ssh-publickey into htc-alsa-branch? |
| 12:42.51 | leviathan | meens: commitment |
| 12:42.52 | leviathan | :) |
| 12:42.54 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 12:43.08 | Gnutoo | do you have an account on gitorious? |
| 12:43.25 | Gnutoo | btw if I give you access don't do ugly thing on that repo |
| 12:43.34 | Gnutoo | and have good commit messages |
| 12:43.36 | Gnutoo | at least |
| 12:44.23 | leviathan | ok |
| 12:44.32 | leviathan | I will take care of it |
| 12:44.48 | leviathan | and yes, I've an accound AND I've learned |
| 12:45.00 | leviathan | I'll never commit drunk again |
| 12:45.02 | leviathan | =) |
| 12:45.24 | Gnutoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:45.29 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 12:46.05 | Gnutoo | so create an account on gitorious |
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| 12:48.40 | Gnutoo | leviathan, btw try to make ifdefs for android if possible as we coud have to merge upstream |
| 12:49.21 | dcordes | hey all |
| 12:49.44 | Gnutoo | hi |
| 12:49.44 | dcordes | Gnutoo, can you give me dram shr rootfs |
| 12:49.52 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 12:49.57 | dcordes | thanks |
| 12:50.13 | Gnutoo | I dont' remember you asking me that...sorry |
| 12:50.14 | leviathan | Gnutoo: ok, I'll try to hold it android compatible |
| 12:50.41 | Gnutoo | dcordes, ok do you want a howto for making your own using SHR openmoko images? |
| 12:50.54 | Gnutoo | dcordes, because mine is basically that |
| 12:51.01 | dcordes | Gnutoo, I know |
| 12:51.06 | dcordes | Gnutoo, using the unstable branch |
| 12:51.11 | Gnutoo | the armv6-novfp one is not finished yet |
| 12:51.14 | Gnutoo | indeed |
| 12:51.18 | dcordes | you gave me your local.conf remember? |
| 12:51.18 | Gnutoo | so you want an image? |
| 12:51.21 | Gnutoo | yes |
| 12:51.26 | Gnutoo | I remember that |
| 12:51.26 | leviathan | Gnutoo: Is there a bitbakefile for replicant-gnulinux-kernel? |
| 12:51.27 | dcordes | but failed |
| 12:51.43 | Gnutoo | leviathan, no do it yourself...it's easy |
| 12:51.48 | leviathan | ok |
| 12:51.54 | dcordes | I would like to see shr merge cleanly with org.openembedded.dev and don't be device centric |
| 12:52.02 | Gnutoo | leviathan, else you don't need a recipe...just a devshell |
| 12:52.12 | dcordes | nobody wants moko device anyway |
| 12:52.18 | Gnutoo | dcordes, ok they are doing that |
| 12:52.32 | leviathan | Gnutoo: I'll import msm_wifi into htcalsa |
| 12:52.38 | Gnutoo | dcordes, when I see the state of the htcdream I prefer the openmoko a lot |
| 12:52.47 | Gnutoo | leviathan, ok make a new branch then |
| 12:53.16 | leviathan | dcordes: I want openmoko device, so the term nobody is wrong |
| 12:53.47 | leviathan | dcordes: but "only a few people" would hit the point, I fear too |
| 12:53.54 | Gnutoo | but there are some problem with openmoko such as the bass,the buzz,and the glamo |
| 12:54.17 | Gnutoo | gta02-core would be great |
| 12:54.18 | leviathan | dcordes: but it doesnt matter, as long as I get my OpenMoko running on this device ^^ |
| 12:54.28 | Gnutoo | but I already have the htcdream... |
| 12:55.07 | Gnutoo | (I can't spend too much money...what if my laptop break...I would need some money to buy a new one....) |
| 12:55.16 | leviathan | Gnutoo: yeah, would be a great effort, to clean all important drivers up, and getting them into upstream |
| 12:55.24 | Gnutoo | (my laptop is old and has heat and keyboards problems) |
| 12:55.41 | Gnutoo | leviathan, ok so create an account on gitorious |
| 12:55.47 | Gnutoo | and push to a branch like |
| 12:55.53 | Gnutoo | something-all |
| 12:56.00 | Gnutoo | or |
| 12:56.04 | leviathan | Gnutoo: I have an account |
| 12:56.04 | Gnutoo | something-alldrivers |
| 12:56.07 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 12:56.09 | leviathan | named leviathan |
| 12:56.11 | Gnutoo | ah yes right |
| 12:56.15 | leviathan | :) |
| 12:57.16 | dcordes | leviathan, yes I don't want to be cruel but everybody knows it's not the best hardware |
| 12:57.30 | dcordes | which is sad |
| 12:57.32 | Gnutoo | leviathan, I gave you access |
| 12:57.43 | Gnutoo | dcordes, the display is great,the sound card is great |
| 12:57.56 | Gnutoo | at least both are better than dream |
| 12:58.15 | Gnutoo | only the main CPU does routing... |
| 12:58.26 | leviathan | Gnutoo: Thx a lot |
| 12:58.30 | Gnutoo | and it's so great for learning oe |
| 12:58.43 | Gnutoo | leviathan, btw does member give access to all repos |
| 12:58.57 | Gnutoo | because you only need access to the kenrel |
| 12:59.09 | leviathan | I only will commit to the kernel |
| 12:59.18 | leviathan | so, theres nothing to fear |
| 12:59.26 | Gnutoo | ah no seems not |
| 12:59.27 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 12:59.29 | Gnutoo | thanks |
| 13:00.05 | leviathan | the rest I will push to my own repo, for openmoko-specific fixes into org.oe.dev |
| 13:01.08 | leviathan | Gnutoo: thx a lot |
| 13:01.23 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 13:03.01 | leviathan | all: btw: is someone of you located near zürich? because I'm trying to organize OM/OE developer meetings |
| 13:04.16 | leviathan | ETH-Zürich has some locations, we could use and sponsoring would also be not such a problem, my enterprise already commited the sponsering for an OM-repo in CH |
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| 13:06.39 | dcordes | Gnutoo, I think it is more important to support mainstream hardware |
| 13:07.11 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 13:07.17 | dcordes | leviathan, |
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| 14:00.09 | leviathan | dcordes: are you living in switzerland? |
| 14:00.36 | leviathan | because it would be cool to make some developer meeting in the ETH |
| 14:00.55 | leviathan | for better coordination and so on |
| 14:01.12 | leviathan | and to define a unified distro again |
| 14:03.46 | leviathan | Gnutoo: I'll make a leviathan-branch of the htc-alsa-branch |
| 14:03.54 | Gnutoo | ok |
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| 14:17.16 | dcordes | leviathan, no, I live in bavaria |
| 14:17.45 | dcordes | leviathan, but I would like to see switzerland :) |
| 14:18.21 | leviathan | ok, very well |
| 14:18.46 | leviathan | at least you are willing to come =) |
| 14:19.10 | dcordes | I think it's questionable if switzerland is the most central place |
| 14:19.22 | dcordes | assuming we are talking about a htc-linux developer meeting |
| 14:19.36 | leviathan | hmm, ok, right |
| 14:19.56 | leviathan | do you have a better idea for such a meeting? |
| 14:20.04 | dcordes | depends on who is interested |
| 14:20.29 | dcordes | how would you like munich? |
| 14:21.59 | leviathan | munich? yeah, wonderfull time |
| 14:22.11 | leviathan | and I could sleep in the CCCMU hackerspace |
| 14:22.25 | leviathan | I've got commitment to sleep there ^^ |
| 14:26.22 | dcordes | maybe we can have some congress room in the ccc place |
| 14:27.43 | leviathan | would be perfect |
| 14:29.31 | leviathan | The idea behind the whole thing is, that my copany (OpenSource Support GmbH) plans to sell freerunners and other openmoko based handies to big companies |
| 14:30.05 | leviathan | ATM we have discussions about this point and others with 3 big companies |
| 14:30.35 | leviathan | so it would be nice to get more and more along with the community |
| 14:30.39 | leviathan | so friendship style |
| 14:30.41 | leviathan | :) |
| 14:31.03 | leviathan | so that we are accepted as commercial helping hand, and so on |
| 14:31.33 | dcordes | the idea behind which thing? |
| 14:31.44 | leviathan | behind sponsering the drinks there ;) |
| 14:32.29 | leviathan | Me for my part I'm just a developer |
| 14:32.35 | leviathan | I'm not good in marketing |
| 14:32.54 | leviathan | but my dad and some others saw that theres a hype on OpenSource |
| 14:33.24 | leviathan | in fact are there several big companies, which like to change theire IT to OpenSource products |
| 14:33.39 | leviathan | Were talking ATM for exemple with HP |
| 14:33.58 | leviathan | and there is also a need for OpenPlatform-Handhelds |
| 14:35.21 | leviathan | and thats the point where we need some neerer binding... meens that people dont see us like M$-, but more as FIC-like company, so that people are willing to do something and work with us, and help us modify the software |
| 14:35.21 | phh | why do they need that ? i think google did it the "right" marketing way... release most of the code, so that it can be called "open source" for the hype, even if this code isn't really usable as is. |
| 14:35.55 | dcordes | ~lart google |
| 14:35.55 | apt | takes google to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 14:36.51 | leviathan | Short: We'd like to be liked =) |
| 14:36.52 | dcordes | apt, what's special? |
| 14:36.53 | apt | it has been said that special is http://onyx4.dhs.org/feed/oz/ |
| 14:37.23 | dcordes | apt, the site is down |
| 14:37.24 | apt | ...but site is already something else... |
| 14:37.32 | dcordes | apt, what's site? |
| 14:37.32 | apt | i guess site is http://ksteele.com/ipaq/memory-upgrade.html |
| 14:37.49 | dcordes | apt, I have no ipaq :( |
| 14:37.50 | apt | You have no ipaq :(? |
| 14:38.01 | dcordes | apt, but I've got an akita |
| 14:40.32 | dcordes | leviathan, do you mean htc-linux will be bought by the OSS company and soon we will find ourselfs working for them? :( |
| 14:41.27 | dcordes | make sure they provide good insurances, daycare for the kids, a firm social network with other OSS employes |
| 14:41.32 | dcordes | else we all go to google :D |
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| 14:43.52 | leviathan | dcordes: nope not in this that we ALL work for them. More in this kind like IBM sponsers Ubuntu ;) |
| 14:44.19 | leviathan | only that we have only 7 employees atm |
| 14:44.25 | dcordes | I'm just fscking around of course |
| 14:44.30 | dcordes | it sure is interesting |
| 14:45.05 | leviathan | 10^6*(1/2) swiss francs are in our budget, so we can make a lot of things |
| 14:46.23 | leviathan | we have 3 old managers with great knowledge about marketing who have absolutly enough from this proprietary shit in theire bank job, so they have decided to bring opensource into the big offices |
| 14:47.01 | leviathan | but there are some problems, like the falling apart of openmoko in the last few months and the back comming to proprietary solutions like semi-free android |
| 14:47.24 | leviathan | thing about the crazy wifi-stuff and sound doesnt work properly either, if you try to use free drivers |
| 14:47.32 | leviathan | so, this has to stop |
| 14:47.53 | leviathan | but in order to do that, we have to make some helping in coordinate the work |
| 14:48.14 | leviathan | some sponsoring for some people who can invest theire time fully into opensource projects |
| 14:48.20 | leviathan | thats the ideal idea |
| 14:48.35 | phh | wifi is quite easily doable since there is wl12xx |
| 14:48.36 | leviathan | make opensource developing a payed job |
| 14:49.06 | leviathan | phh: yeah, but you have to make a separat bitbake file for it |
| 14:49.08 | phh | leviathan: but you think working on openmoko is better than freeing android ? |
| 14:49.49 | leviathan | android is only something like opensolaris on toshiba-notebooks |
| 14:50.24 | leviathan | its good, because its a symbol, that free software is on that notebook, but as soon as i bought it, I uninstall it and install debian |
| 14:50.28 | leviathan | or gentoo |
| 14:50.32 | leviathan | same with android |
| 14:50.51 | leviathan | its the proof, that you can run linux on the device |
| 14:50.58 | leviathan | but not more |
| 14:51.02 | leviathan | I dont like android |
| 14:51.12 | ppman | mer |
| 14:51.14 | leviathan | so I dont invest time do make ANYTHING with it |
| 14:51.20 | leviathan | yeahh |
| 14:51.22 | leviathan | hildon |
| 14:51.30 | leviathan | i tried to make a package of it |
| 14:51.33 | leviathan | PITA |
| 14:51.38 | leviathan | atm |
| 14:51.58 | leviathan | im building an Image with QT4.5-based mokotouch |
| 14:52.01 | ppman | we should put more effort into mer. |
| 14:53.02 | leviathan | btw: does someone know about this qtopia-folder in qt4.5.2 |
| 14:53.12 | leviathan | I thought qtopia is dead??? |
| 14:53.34 | leviathan | why is there still something like qtopia in the newest qt releases? |
| 15:22.36 | Gnutoo | hi mdrobnak |
| 15:23.03 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, I've tried the android-htc-ril it's strange.... |
| 15:23.16 | ppman | mdrobnak: I got a raphael! |
| 15:23.23 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, apart of the fact that it didn't work It does some strange sim i/o access |
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| 15:24.36 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, http://pastebin.com/d279c047d |
| 15:28.31 | ppman | I'm really bad with git, someone want to explain to me how to get the htc-msm-2.6.27 head? |
| 15:31.05 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, why do you need to get the IMSI ??? |
| 15:32.37 | phh | Gnutoo: android wants it i guess |
| 15:32.51 | phh | or it's to got MCC/MNC for data |
| 15:33.02 | Gnutoo | ok but the ril connection is lost just after that and *I don't use data* |
| 15:33.10 | Gnutoo | at least not on that sim |
| 15:42.44 | Gnutoo | I've some questions: |
| 15:43.13 | Gnutoo | *how customized is the android-htc-ril ...what should I change to make it work on dream...is it worth the work? |
| 15:43.56 | Gnutoo | *the generic ril don't work on US adp phones....Could it be the band....or could it be something else? |
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| 15:54.06 | mdrobnak | Good morning |
| 15:57.02 | mdrobnak | Ok, now that I've read the last few hours.. |
| 15:57.23 | mdrobnak | ppman: Cool. Hope Android is working well for you...Mer should be doing better soon :-) |
| 15:57.37 | mdrobnak | Gnutoo: IMSI is necessary to determine who the home carrier is. |
| 15:57.45 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 15:57.46 | Gnutoo | hi |
| 15:58.06 | mdrobnak | Gnutoo: not sure about the SIM access. That I think is normal. You're trying to run this on a Dream right? |
| 15:58.15 | Gnutoo | yes |
| 15:58.31 | mdrobnak | Ok, I can see a problem already |
| 15:58.37 | mdrobnak | # |
| 15:58.38 | mdrobnak | D/AT ( 124): AT> AT+CFUN=66 |
| 15:58.46 | mdrobnak | You're in the Non-GSM parts of the code. |
| 15:59.03 | mdrobnak | You need to hardcode isgsm=1 |
| 16:00.13 | mdrobnak | So that whole thing is gonna be messed up |
| 16:00.56 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 16:01.05 | Gnutoo | thanks a lot |
| 16:01.38 | mdrobnak | Are you using the master branch or the diamond branch? |
| 16:04.48 | Gnutoo | master |
| 16:05.16 | mdrobnak | Ok, master relies on setupmodem.sh stuff |
| 16:05.18 | mdrobnak | are you using that? |
| 16:05.34 | Gnutoo | no |
| 16:05.42 | mdrobnak | Ok, then you should switch to the diamond branch |
| 16:05.44 | Gnutoo | what's that |
| 16:05.45 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 16:05.46 | mdrobnak | that has my patches in it |
| 16:05.51 | Gnutoo | I switch |
| 16:05.59 | mdrobnak | That makes it set up using pppd instead of setupmodem |
| 16:06.12 | mdrobnak | You may have to modify that for the dream anyway...doesn't that use rmnet? |
| 16:06.45 | mdrobnak | I am curious on how well the rest of the code works on it. |
| 16:08.35 | Gnutoo | indeed |
| 16:08.52 | Gnutoo | basically the reference ril works on the dream |
| 16:09.01 | Gnutoo | but a lot of things don't |
| 16:09.11 | Gnutoo | like USSD for instance |
| 16:09.21 | Gnutoo | and you told me to try your ril...so |
| 16:09.57 | Gnutoo | still I/RILJ ( 87): 'rild' socket closed |
| 16:10.36 | mdrobnak | Well, it's based on the reference RIL as far as I knew. |
| 16:10.54 | mdrobnak | But I mean, you could probably lift out the stuff that you need and put it in the reference one. |
| 16:10.59 | mdrobnak | That would probably work better. |
| 16:11.08 | mdrobnak | What happened before that line? |
| 16:11.23 | Gnutoo | ok that's what I'll do then |
| 16:11.38 | Gnutoo | an exception happened...I'll pastebin |
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| 16:12.13 | mdrobnak | Thanks. |
| 16:13.17 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, http://pastebin.com/m4431cc3c |
| 16:14.15 | mdrobnak | Hmm. Did you do the isgsm=1 thing? |
| 16:14.24 | Gnutoo | I think so |
| 16:14.40 | Gnutoo | static int isgsm=1; |
| 16:14.42 | Gnutoo | so yes |
| 16:14.45 | mdrobnak | D/AT ( 33): AT> AT+CFUN=66 < -- Should never occur on GSM. This is a CDMA fix. On CDMA if you do CFUN=0, it shuts the whole phone down.. |
| 16:14.52 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 16:14.53 | mdrobnak | One sec. |
| 16:16.14 | mdrobnak | const RIL_RadioFunctions *RIL_Init(const struct RIL_Env *env, int argc, char **argv) |
| 16:16.16 | mdrobnak | Go to there. |
| 16:16.24 | mdrobnak | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.25 | mdrobnak | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.25 | mdrobnak | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.25 | mdrobnak | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.35 | mdrobnak | Change that code to say isgsm=1 for the else as well.. |
| 16:16.40 | mdrobnak | And you'll be good. |
| 16:17.09 | Gnutoo | ok thanks |
| 16:17.15 | mdrobnak | No problem |
| 16:22.32 | Gnutoo | btw I was pushing in the wrong place(I used ctrl + r) |
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| 16:22.37 | Gnutoo | so that couldn't work |
| 16:23.24 | mdrobnak | I wasn't sure if you pushed the right thing, but didn't want to ask ;-) |
| 16:23.35 | Gnutoo | thanks a lot |
| 16:23.48 | Gnutoo | the first time the push was ok |
| 16:23.54 | Gnutoo | but after I used ctrl + r |
| 16:24.03 | Gnutoo | so it took a wrong push command |
| 16:24.10 | mdrobnak | ah |
| 16:24.13 | Gnutoo | thanks a lot telephony seem to work |
| 16:24.30 | Gnutoo | (you know the command history search) |
| 16:24.40 | mdrobnak | yeah, I don't use it much, but.. |
| 16:24.44 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 16:25.07 | mdrobnak | Good to hear it seems to work. Definitely check your logs, there's bound to be broken stuff :-) |
| 16:25.24 | Gnutoo | ok...btw how do I make data work |
| 16:25.26 | mdrobnak | There's no 2G/3G switching in that code. |
| 16:25.39 | mdrobnak | That is more complicated. :-) |
| 16:25.50 | Gnutoo | (I've 2 sims....one pure data and one pure phone) |
| 16:26.16 | mdrobnak | take the setup and deactivate pdp context code from the reference ril and put it in the place of what's there in mine |
| 16:26.58 | mdrobnak | requestSetupDefaultPDP and requestDeactivateDefaultPDP |
| 16:27.21 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 16:27.43 | mdrobnak | Then you should be in fairly good shape. Not sure about audio routing though (you can see they use /sys/.... to write a "2" for the audio routing during a call..probably not like that on the dream. |
| 16:27.45 | Gnutoo | I'm not shure it would work in reference rilll...I'll try first |
| 16:27.58 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, I fixed audio routing in the audio libs |
| 16:28.15 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, it uses ioctls.... |
| 16:28.23 | mdrobnak | Ok. |
| 16:28.32 | mdrobnak | Our RIL uses a function called "writesys" |
| 16:28.39 | Gnutoo | ok I'll look |
| 16:28.40 | mdrobnak | which writes into /sys/class/vogue_hw/ |
| 16:29.03 | mdrobnak | so it'll echo 2 or 5 into /sys/class/vogue_hw/audio |
| 16:29.31 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 16:29.31 | mdrobnak | which shouldn't do anything bad for you - there's not any error checking around that code it seems |
| 16:29.41 | Gnutoo | indeed but shouldn't be a problem |
| 16:30.05 | Gnutoo | I'll try data |
| 16:30.23 | Gnutoo | but I'm not even shure it works with reference ril |
| 16:31.11 | mdrobnak | I thought it did... |
| 16:31.40 | Gnutoo | I said I was not shure...simply because I didn't test it |
| 16:31.48 | mdrobnak | ah |
| 16:31.57 | mdrobnak | Here's what I'd do: If it doesn't work... |
| 16:32.04 | mdrobnak | modify the driver in the kernel that is for the modem.. |
| 16:32.12 | mdrobnak | to echo everything going to or from it :-) |
| 16:32.21 | mdrobnak | and use the HTC ril to see what's going on hehe |
| 16:32.49 | Gnutoo | mdrobnak, lol I've made a patch exactly for that |
| 16:33.04 | Gnutoo | and I can use the proprietary ril with the data sim card |
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| 16:33.26 | mdrobnak | Then I am sure you'll get it working :-) |
| 16:33.34 | leviathan | ok, people, I'm finishing now linear algebra for tommorow, this serie has to be solved and given to the assistant by tommorow |
| 16:33.38 | Gnutoo | but not with my phone sim card(too afraid of having my numbers sent on the internet to google) |
| 16:34.01 | mdrobnak | Gnutoo, hah, they could care less |
| 16:34.31 | leviathan | I'll upload my own branch of OE to gitorious, some of you can merge it into official from time to time, if you like |
| 16:34.33 | Gnutoo | the libgps is suspect...so why not the ril? |
| 16:34.35 | leviathan | I'll keep it compatible |
| 16:34.37 | leviathan | so |
| 16:34.39 | leviathan | now afk |
| 16:34.55 | Gnutoo | leviathan, can't you simply send patches to the oe ml? |
| 16:35.10 | leviathan | hmm |
| 16:35.15 | leviathan | would also be possible |
| 16:35.18 | Gnutoo | or you could do both |
| 16:35.25 | leviathan | yeahh, good idea |
| 16:35.36 | leviathan | why only do one thing, if you can do both |
| 16:35.38 | leviathan | = |
| 16:35.38 | Gnutoo | having your own branch and send patches...so maybe at the end you would get commit access |
| 16:35.46 | leviathan | yeah |
| 16:35.48 | leviathan | possible |
| 16:36.13 | Gnutoo | and even if you don't get access it would be positive as you would have less rebasing to do |
| 16:36.23 | Gnutoo | and would get comment on your work |
| 16:36.35 | leviathan | yeah, good argument |
| 16:36.51 | leviathan | so, I'll make it so |
| 16:36.52 | leviathan | =) |
| 16:38.01 | mdrobnak | Gnutoo: What's the theory about the GPS lib? That data is being sent to someone? |
| 16:38.20 | Gnutoo | there are suspicious network connections: |
| 16:38.49 | Gnutoo | http://www.linuxtogo.org/android-on-g1 |
| 16:39.03 | Gnutoo | Even worse if you enabled GPS sometimes you see the GPS getting a fix and then data traffic, |
| 16:39.25 | mdrobnak | Gnutoo: AGPS |
| 16:39.43 | mdrobnak | Assisted GPS, uses data to get current position of sats |
| 16:39.55 | Gnutoo | but AGPS do that *before* |
| 16:39.59 | Gnutoo | not after |
| 16:40.00 | Gnutoo | the fix |
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| 16:40.39 | Gnutoo | no? |
| 16:40.46 | mdrobnak | Not sure. |
| 16:40.50 | mdrobnak | Never watched it in WinMo |
| 16:41.13 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 16:41.26 | Gnutoo | but you ask the network for data then you got a fix |
| 16:41.32 | Gnutoo | not the contrary no? |
| 16:42.23 | mdrobnak | That sounds right. |
| 16:43.37 | mdrobnak | For the moment, I'm not worried :-) |
| 16:45.40 | Gnutoo | mrmoku, ok btw PPP_TTY_PATH should be set to something |
| 16:45.51 | Gnutoo | what should I set it to? |
| 16:46.17 | Gnutoo | #define PPP_TTY_PATH "/dev/omap_csmi_tty1" doesn't seem right...as it's an msm and not an omap |
| 16:46.25 | mdrobnak | hmm |
| 16:46.29 | mdrobnak | what's in the reference? |
| 16:46.57 | mdrobnak | nvm |
| 16:47.08 | mdrobnak | Well, what exists on the your phone? |
| 16:47.31 | Gnutoo | /dev/qmi something I bet |
| 16:47.40 | Gnutoo | that was in the reference |
| 16:47.43 | Gnutoo | : |
| 16:47.50 | Gnutoo | #define PPP_TTY_PATH "/dev/omap_csmi_tty1" \ |
| 16:47.58 | Gnutoo | s/\// |
| 16:48.05 | mdrobnak | /dev/rmnet0 ? |
| 16:48.11 | Gnutoo | it's there too |
| 16:48.25 | mdrobnak | I'd put rmnet0 in there. |
| 16:48.34 | mdrobnak | Well |
| 16:48.44 | mdrobnak | technically you're not running PPP..so I'm not sure. |
| 16:48.57 | Gnutoo | indeed |
| 16:49.00 | Gnutoo | I'll try something |
| 16:53.00 | mdrobnak | is looking for memory management stuff in Android again |
| 16:57.59 | mdrobnak | pmemory != pmem, right? |
| 17:00.29 | Gnutoo | mmm /dev/qmi0 is not opened |
| 17:03.31 | mdrobnak | you replaced the setup code with the referene, right? |
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| 17:14.23 | deano | hi |
| 17:19.12 | mdrobnak | Gnutoo: You should try bringing it up manually..I gotta run. |
| 17:19.40 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 17:19.45 | Gnutoo | I got it nearly working |
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| 17:47.11 | Epsylon3 | hi |
| 17:47.51 | Epsylon3 | what's the easiest way to patch an os.nb file ? i want to patch a registry file to save my device |
| 17:48.04 | Epsylon3 | to repair my device |
| 17:48.47 | Epsylon3 | i have extracted all files with osKitchen... |
| 17:49.16 | Epsylon3 | but i'm not sur how to repack it correctly... there is maybe an easier way to add or replace a file ? |
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| 18:01.45 | ppman | can someone with commit access to htc-msm add ARCH=arm and CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- to the Makefile? |
| 18:02.02 | ppman | it's been done for htc-vogue, and it's a great convenience feature |
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| 18:04.57 | Hellgringo | hello |
| 18:05.10 | ppman | hiya |
| 18:06.00 | Hellgringo | since about one week haret.exe doesn't work anymore on my htc touch diamond... |
| 18:06.13 | ppman | what happens when you run it? |
| 18:06.32 | Hellgringo | windows says that it is not signed or corrupted |
| 18:06.42 | ppman | try resownloading it, |
| 18:06.50 | Hellgringo | i already reinstalled haret.exe without success |
| 18:06.55 | ppman | and also use diamondtweak to disable the unsigned warning |
| 18:09.11 | ppman | gah... why do all the raphael linux docs suck? |
| 18:09.19 | ppman | kaiser shines in that area |
| 18:09.54 | phh | all is in the source code ! :p |
| 18:10.14 | ppman | phh: sure... |
| 18:10.49 | phh | what docs would you want ? |
| 18:11.05 | ppman | but I mean... where's the 864 page forums thread? constantly updated wiki page? |
| 18:11.14 | ppman | Right now I'd like to make a default.txt |
| 18:12.25 | phh | bah if you want a 700 ~ pages forum thread, look at android for diamond thread. |
| 18:12.32 | mdrobnak | ppman: bash - alias amake="make ARCH=arm and CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-" :-) |
| 18:12.35 | phh | but i prefer reading source code than looking into this forum. |
| 18:12.47 | Hellgringo | hmmm my diamond doesn't want to install diamond tweak |
| 18:12.51 | ppman | mdrobnak: that will TOTALLY not make my gentoo system cry... |
| 18:12.57 | phh | ho only 500 |
| 18:13.13 | Hellgringo | i think there is something really broken |
| 18:13.14 | mdrobnak | ppman: Ok, <insert shell here> alias ;-) |
| 18:13.22 | mdrobnak | Hellgringo, You may have to do a hard reset :-( |
| 18:13.33 | mdrobnak | I had that happen a long time ago on my Raph |
| 18:13.35 | ppman | you know, I do use make for other stuff.. |
| 18:13.44 | ppman | mdrobnak: you have raph110, right? |
| 18:13.48 | mdrobnak | ppman - yeah "***a***make" |
| 18:14.00 | mdrobnak | ppman: Yes, 110. |
| 18:14.03 | Hellgringo | raph? |
| 18:14.08 | mdrobnak | Touch Pro |
| 18:14.13 | ppman | can you send me your default.txt?\ |
| 18:14.29 | Hellgringo | ah okay |
| 18:15.24 | Hellgringo | i only have the german version and my english is not very good, but do you mean with hard reset something like "delete memory" in winmob settings? |
| 18:15.49 | phh | Hellgringo: yes |
| 18:16.21 | mdrobnak | ppman: http://www.drobnak.com/raph110-default.txt |
| 18:16.45 | Hellgringo | ok, then lets have fun with syncronizing my phone with evolution.... i hate it.... |
| 18:16.49 | ppman | Hellgringo: hold down volume down and the center button, hit reset with your stylus, and release those two buttons when a message comes on your screen |
| 18:17.17 | mdrobnak | Hellgringo: Ouch, yeah, evolution wasn't very good to sync with. Do you have a backup program? |
| 18:17.20 | mdrobnak | (On your phone) |
| 18:17.28 | ppman | wtf is imgdevname and suck? |
| 18:17.30 | mdrobnak | Like Sprite Backup or something |
| 18:17.42 | mdrobnak | ppman - that's legacy. no harm in leaving it there |
| 18:17.49 | Hellgringo | no i haven't i just need the contacts |
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| 18:18.51 | ppman | mdrobnak: what'll happen if I drop the msmts calib? |
| 18:19.00 | mdrobnak | ppman: Your screen won't work |
| 18:19.01 | mdrobnak | lol |
| 18:19.05 | phh | mdrobnak: hu ? |
| 18:19.11 | phh | i thaught it asked for calibration at startup |
| 18:19.21 | mdrobnak | If you don't have them in there. |
| 18:19.36 | mdrobnak | Sorry, should have been more specific. |
| 18:19.47 | mdrobnak | ppman: The values are good for the 110. |
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| 18:20.42 | mdrobnak | Though I'm looking at the board-htcraphael.h now and thinking it might need tweaking...it has SMI as being 9MB. The problem is, I think the 110 has a 32MB SMI. (32 + 128 + 128) |
| 18:20.51 | mdrobnak | ppman: Also, add mem=89MB |
| 18:20.56 | mdrobnak | to the kernel command line |
| 18:20.58 | phh | what's SMI ? |
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| 18:21.09 | mdrobnak | SMI is memory onboard the CPU |
| 18:21.16 | mdrobnak | EBI is off-chip (regular) memory |
| 18:21.37 | phh | ok |
| 18:22.49 | mdrobnak | Hmm. My original thought is nothing to worry about anyway, now that I read it again. |
| 18:24.06 | mdrobnak | anway, I'm off. ppman: any other questions before I go? |
| 18:24.14 | ppman | prolly not |
| 18:24.23 | ppman | wait |
| 18:24.27 | mdrobnak | hehe |
| 18:24.32 | ppman | where's the site you got that fb patch from? |
| 18:24.49 | mdrobnak | looks for a copy of it |
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| 18:24.57 | ppman | and was that already thrown into the tree? |
| 18:25.19 | mdrobnak | No. It conflicts with Android |
| 18:25.31 | ppman | lame |
| 18:26.18 | mdrobnak | http://www.drobnak.com/fb-changes.patch |
| 18:26.27 | mdrobnak | you'll probably have to apply it manually, but it's easy changes |
| 18:26.38 | ppman | where was that original site? |
| 18:26.42 | ppman | had a lot of cool stuff... |
| 18:26.44 | mdrobnak | I don't remember. :-( |
| 18:26.53 | mdrobnak | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/ Maybe? |
| 18:27.49 | mdrobnak | Anyway, good luck...ttyl |
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| 18:33.55 | ppman | wtf... it's not working with my sd card? |
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| 18:37.22 | ppman | oh right, what was the root wait option? |
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| 18:39.22 | ppman | oh... it's "rootwait" |
| 18:40.21 | phh | hu ? i thaught it was rootdelay |
| 18:40.41 | ppman | nope |
| 18:40.52 | ppman | I think rootdelay does the same thing, but it's fixed |
| 18:40.52 | phh | anyway you'd better use an initramfs |
| 18:40.56 | ppman | like rootdelay=3 |
| 18:41.02 | phh | ppman: oh ok |
| 18:41.03 | ppman | rootwait "just works" |
| 18:41.55 | Hellgringo | is android already usable on the diamond touch or is it buggy? |
| 18:42.21 | ppman | define usable |
| 18:42.35 | Hellgringo | running longer than 5min |
| 18:42.35 | phh | Hellgringo: it depends. |
| 18:42.42 | Hellgringo | make calls |
| 18:42.44 | Hellgringo | write sms |
| 18:42.57 | phh | 1.5 builds from connect-utb can do it really well |
| 18:44.34 | phh | but the battery won't last really long |
| 18:44.38 | Hellgringo | and whats about the speed? does it response quickly? |
| 18:44.58 | ppman | hey, is there a fuze keyboard driver for the kernel? |
| 18:45.04 | phh | maybe not as quickly as "real" android's phone, but it's really usable |
| 18:45.07 | ppman | or do I have to write it like I did for atttilt? |
| 18:45.16 | phh | ppman: isn't fuze a friend of raph ? |
| 18:45.23 | ppman | fuze is a raph |
| 18:45.38 | ppman | but att had its way with the keyboard |
| 18:45.39 | cr2 | leviathan: i'd like to drive to Zurich on next weekend (if the weather will be good) . if you somewhere around, we can drink a beer :) |
| 18:45.41 | phh | ppman: then there is already one |
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| 18:46.02 | phh | ppman: in drivers => input devices => microp keypad |
| 18:46.03 | ppman | but all the keys are mismapped |
| 18:46.09 | phh | oh |
| 18:46.11 | phh | that's nother story. |
| 18:46.30 | phh | ppman: you'll have to ask mdrobnak then :p |
| 18:46.33 | ppman | I'll fix it... you want a configure option or a runtime option? |
| 18:47.24 | phh | oh right the fuze hasn't the same mappings as real raph, that's why |
| 18:47.36 | phh | (that's why you should love AT&T) |
| 18:47.52 | ppman | it's a nice layout |
| 18:48.11 | Hellgringo | how long would the battery last? |
| 18:48.15 | ppman | and I already had to fix the tilt != kaiser mappings |
| 18:48.39 | phh | Hellgringo: i haven't test it with standard use yet :D |
| 18:49.21 | ppman | phh: your choice - you want a boot time option or a configure option? |
| 18:49.36 | phh | ppman: i think this is not a kernel thing. |
| 18:49.48 | ppman | we did it in-kernel for kaiser |
| 18:50.36 | phh | mdrobnak: did some keymaps for android iirc |
| 18:51.25 | phh | cr2: still no gps, fm doc, BT clock or camera init ? |
| 18:52.53 | phh | ppman: maybe use http://www.drobnak.com/microp-keypad.kl |
| 18:53.16 | cr2 | phh: just returned from a trip to north-west Austria :) |
| 18:53.29 | ppman | phh: how? |
| 18:53.38 | ppman | not interested in android. |
| 18:53.42 | cr2 | i have guests here, so can't spend much time for hacking |
| 18:53.55 | phh | ppman: then learn setkeycodes |
| 18:54.17 | ppman | can I please just do this in the kernel? |
| 18:54.20 | phh | cr2: ok |
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| 18:54.53 | phh | ppman: you can code whatever you want actually |
| 18:55.07 | phh | but i don't think multi-keymaps in-kernel support will be commited. |
| 18:55.20 | ppman | it was for kaiser... |
| 18:57.27 | ppman | and is it just me or is fn totally broken? |
| 18:57.32 | ppman | it turns on the light.. |
| 18:57.58 | phh | there are some problems afaik, but don't know which ones |
| 18:58.47 | ppman | well, I can't really do much with a broken keymap and fn button... |
| 18:59.07 | ppman | turning on the light gave a kernel error... |
| 19:00.29 | phh | showkey gives nothing ? |
| 19:00.59 | ppman | the fn key works |
| 19:01.06 | ppman | gives 58 |
| 19:01.12 | phh | so it works. |
| 19:01.17 | ppman | and without showkey running, the light turns on |
| 19:01.24 | ppman | but no fn+key combo works |
| 19:02.04 | phh | map it to alt-gr or some other mod key then ... |
| 19:03.08 | ppman | wow... the keyboard situation here sucks compared to kaiser... |
| 19:03.29 | ppman | wtf... you already have multiple layouts... |
| 19:04.01 | phh | one per machine .... |
| 19:04.14 | ppman | well raph110 is a different machine, isn't it? |
| 19:04.27 | phh | err, if you want |
| 19:05.06 | ppman | but if fn isn't even done here.. what's the point? |
| 19:05.10 | ppman | gahhh this is a mess |
| 19:05.38 | phh | you want fn+X to be handled in microp-kpd ? |
| 19:05.48 | ppman | sure |
| 19:05.53 | phh | ergh |
| 19:06.07 | ppman | have you seen kaiser's keyboard code? |
| 19:06.13 | phh | no |
| 19:06.25 | phh | i've seen how keyboard is managed on "standard" systems. |
| 19:07.16 | ppman | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob_plain;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/board-kaiser-keypad.c;hb=e52c68784135c6fcbeceb0aa3ac1b1340767eada |
| 19:07.45 | cr2 | [D:RIL] SimReadyThread: In loop of Sending AT+CPBR?. |
| 19:08.47 | cr2 | 16:23:30 [D:USBF] ulpi_15(0x0)! |
| 19:08.47 | cr2 | 16:23:30 [D:USBF] ulpi_0x31(0x40)! |
| 19:08.47 | cr2 | 16:23:30 [D:USBF] ulpi_0xD(0x1d)! |
| 19:08.47 | cr2 | 16:23:30 [D:USBF] ulpi_0x10(0x1d)! |
| 19:08.47 | cr2 | 16:23:30 [D:USBF] ulpi_0x0A(0x5)! |
| 19:08.47 | cr2 | 16:23:30 [D:USBF] bSDIS(0x0) USBMODE(0xa)! |
| 19:08.47 | cr2 | looks good. |
| 19:11.28 | phh | ppman: how do you manage "localized" keymaps then ? |
| 19:11.47 | ppman | we don't. |
| 19:12.03 | ppman | but at least those two keymaps work |
| 19:12.17 | ppman | you could probably use the same key remap trick to get localization. |
| 19:12.40 | phh | assuming fn+X doesn't change meanwhile. |
| 19:12.50 | phh | mmmm or not |
| 19:13.01 | ppman | it should act as another key |
| 19:22.46 | cr2 | RIL_DEVSPECIFICPARAM_GET_BS_INFO: Send AT+Q3GNCELL |
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| 19:25.54 | Gnutoo | btw what is the G icon with the 2 arrows? |
| 19:27.40 | phh | GPRS data connection ? |
| 19:27.41 | phh | or google account sync mmm |
| 19:28.34 | Gnutoo | no more gprs than google account sync |
| 19:29.22 | phh | strange then |
| 19:30.21 | Gnutoo | s/no/no,/ |
| 19:31.51 | cr2 | phh: WLANMSG:ACX_REG_ECPU_CONTROL IS 1 |
| 19:32.00 | polyrhythmic | Hi guys, I'm trying to reach a stable overclock on my Kaiser running Android |
| 19:32.10 | phh | cr2: what's that ?!? |
| 19:32.21 | Gnutoo | lol |
| 19:32.37 | polyrhythmic | I understand that in these settings: "clock-7x00.ahb_div=4 clock-7x00.a11=528" 528 is the Mhz |
| 19:32.37 | cr2 | WLANMSG:Retrieve FW info: preamble=0, fwVer=Rev 4.0.4.32.1, radioType=0x3, EepromVer=6.3.28.0 |
| 19:32.41 | Gnutoo | polyrhythmic, are you aware of the battery life consequences.... |
| 19:32.52 | leviathan | cr2: beer? sure! |
| 19:32.53 | polyrhythmic | Gnutoo: yes, I'm trying to find a happy medium |
| 19:32.59 | Gnutoo | polyrhythmic, ok |
| 19:33.28 | cr2 | leviathan: ok, i'll let you know later :) |
| 19:33.35 | polyrhythmic | Gnutoo: clock-7x00.ahb_div=4 is some kind of divisor? |
| 19:33.37 | phh | cr2: it seems wl12xx does quite the same thing |
| 19:33.44 | polyrhythmic | that is the setting I don't understand fully |
| 19:34.00 | cr2 | WLANMSG:FW Version = Rev 4.0.4.32.1 Station Id=00-23-75-15-55-55 |
| 19:34.01 | phh | polyrhythmic: use the source force luke. |
| 19:34.06 | Gnutoo | polyrhythmic, ah it's from cmdline (cat /proc/cmdline) ? |
| 19:34.14 | leviathan | cr2: ok, I'm around, just tell me, where I can meet you, then we can go dring and do philosophy about OpenMoko ;) |
| 19:34.34 | leviathan | %s/dring/drink/r |
| 19:34.43 | polyrhythmic | Gnutoo: it's from the startup.txt/default.txt |
| 19:35.00 | cr2 | phh: WLANMSG:write HI_CFG data=0xbc, status=0x40 |
| 19:35.05 | Gnutoo | polyrhythmic, ah ok haret... |
| 19:35.17 | cr2 | 135689 WLANMSG:FW image length=0x2f448 |
| 19:35.29 | cr2 | WLANMSG:Image addr=0x1f0030, Len=0x2f450 |
| 19:35.30 | Gnutoo | polyrhythmic, I've an htcdream and never played directly with haret |
| 19:35.31 | phh | cr2: i think we need no further researches for wifi, as far as i've seen, it just works fine in linux |
| 19:35.50 | polyrhythmic | my main question is, does the divisor setting have an impact on the main frequency setting, or are the chips independent?? |
| 19:35.53 | cr2 | phh: different VREG config on topa100 |
| 19:36.11 | phh | well i meant for diamond/raph |
| 19:36.20 | cr2 | phh: i'd like to know the fw differences to android |
| 19:36.22 | cr2 | ok |
| 19:36.39 | phh | cr2: all i can say is that i can use both fw ... |
| 19:37.00 | phh | so i assume there is no real differences |
| 19:37.19 | phh | and versions are almost (or exactly ?) the same |
| 19:37.31 | polyrhythmic | I don't want to fry my device by accidentally overclocking to 1056Mhz or something, idk if there are any safeguards against bad frequencies :/ |
| 19:38.14 | phh | polyrhythmic: yeah sure... you maybe want an automatic overclocking tool too ? |
| 19:38.28 | polyrhythmic | haha phh in my dreams |
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| 19:38.48 | phh | polyrhythmic: what's the point of overclocking this ? |
| 19:39.04 | phh | the most you might have will be a +10% which is mmm |
| 19:39.06 | polyrhythmic | phh: so I can have fast android without spending $200 on a new phone |
| 19:39.07 | phh | almost nothing. |
| 19:39.22 | phh | you think that it's slow because of the CPU ? |
| 19:39.28 | polyrhythmic | phh: the ION builds I am able to overclock are noticably faster |
| 19:39.45 | cr2 | phh: i'll check topa100 bt clock setting |
| 19:40.05 | polyrhythmic | I just want to know, is the clock-7x00.ahb_div like a FSB divisor, or is it unrelated to the ARM11 clock frequency? |
| 19:40.46 | cr2 | polyrhythmic: it's PLL divisor for AHB bus |
| 19:41.04 | polyrhythmic | thanks |
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| 19:41.25 | polyrhythmic | thanks cr2 |
| 19:41.37 | cr2 | do we know the syntax for AT+Q3GNCELL |
| 19:42.01 | tmzt | phh: both fw? on what? what firmwares? |
| 19:42.15 | cr2 | somebody with 'cu' access to /dev/smd0 ? |
| 19:42.36 | phh | tmzt: i tried diamond's WM's firmware and android's (i assume G1), firmware on my diam100 |
| 19:42.50 | tmzt | wifi? |
| 19:42.54 | phh | tmzt: yes |
| 19:43.36 | cr2 | hmm. Avail Phys : 109 MB |
| 19:44.26 | tmzt | phh: ECPU is the cpu in acx |
| 19:44.35 | tmzt | that means it's running I think |
| 19:44.48 | phh | tmzt: i guessed so yes |
| 19:45.33 | phh | cr2: btw, what actually does the android's BT "firmware" you've read ? |
| 19:46.23 | tmzt | oh, this is ce dmesg? |
| 19:46.25 | tmzt | cool |
| 19:46.39 | tmzt | I need to dump my ulpi/phy theb |
| 19:47.43 | cr2 | phh: stripped down .bts |
| 19:48.02 | phh | and what does .bts do ? :D |
| 19:48.25 | tmzt | we need led support in microp-klt |
| 19:49.26 | phh | yes |
| 19:49.32 | phh | but i don't know what's the proper way of doing this |
| 19:50.40 | phh | (i assume you mean the "dynamic led" thing) |
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| 19:52.52 | cr2 | heh. [D:DISP] AuoPowerOn (with NovaTek Bridge IC)... |
| 19:53.07 | tmzt | mdrobnak: raph110 needs an mtype then maybe |
| 19:55.24 | cr2 | freshmeat :) |
| 19:55.26 | cr2 | Windows CE Kernel for ARM (Thumb Enabled) Built on Sep 4 2009 at 01:33:10 |
| 19:56.34 | cr2 | tmzt: SKUID |
| 19:56.44 | cr2 | [K] SKUID PCBA PN is 0 1 ed |
| 19:56.46 | cr2 | [K] SKUID SKU Num is 5 |
| 19:56.47 | cr2 | [K] SKUID PCB ID is 80 |
| 19:56.49 | cr2 | [K] SKUID ENGINEER ID is fffffffe |
| 19:57.26 | cr2 | [K] MainMemoryEndAddress = 0x84F00000 |
| 19:57.27 | cr2 | [K] PmemHeapPhyAddr = 0x00200000 |
| 19:57.29 | cr2 | [K] dwPmemHeapSize = 0x00700000 |
| 19:57.37 | cr2 | 79MB only ;) |
| 19:59.20 | cr2 | tmzt: the SMD offsets are wildly AMSS version dependent |
| 19:59.42 | tmzt | Gnutoo: routing? from playwav2? |
| 19:59.57 | Gnutoo | tmzt, ??? |
| 20:00.09 | Gnutoo | tmzt, context? |
| 20:03.32 | Gnutoo | btw is it normal that regestering on other network don't work? |
| 20:06.58 | cr2 | 0xa2 get sleep clock ? |
| 20:07.27 | cr2 | [K] InitRegionID: Check pass |
| 20:07.40 | cr2 | [K] Detect Speed: cpu_khz=528000 |
| 20:07.41 | cr2 | DEX_CMD_STATUS_COMPLETE 0xA2 |
| 20:09.22 | tmzt | phh: dream firmware on diam100? it worked? you patched eng? |
| 20:09.37 | cr2 | NAND] Flash ID = 5510bcad |
| 20:09.38 | cr2 | [ |
| 20:09.43 | cr2 | something new ? |
| 20:09.51 | phh | tmzt: eng ? |
| 20:10.03 | tmzt | engineering |
| 20:10.10 | phh | i patched nothing |
| 20:10.16 | tmzt | if you didn't I'm not sure how you did it |
| 20:10.23 | tmzt | and you say it worked? |
| 20:10.31 | phh | it's the same wifi chip you know ... |
| 20:10.37 | tmzt | oh |
| 20:10.41 | tmzt | wifi firmware |
| 20:10.44 | tmzt | right |
| 20:10.47 | tmzt | not radio |
| 20:11.06 | tmzt | sure, that should work |
| 20:11.28 | tmzt | Gnutoo: you said you added audio routing to the android libs |
| 20:11.49 | tmzt | Gnutoo: I'm asking if the ioctls are the ones used in playwav2 or something else |
| 20:11.51 | Gnutoo | tmzt, yes and no |
| 20:12.04 | cr2 | the same as on raph100 |
| 20:12.20 | tmzt | have you been able to bring up networking manually on g1? |
| 20:12.25 | tmzt | cell data |
| 20:12.36 | tmzt | data connection |
| 20:12.40 | Gnutoo | I don't remember I only removed occurences of acoustic and imported some functions from playwav2 |
| 20:12.44 | Gnutoo | the sources should be at: |
| 20:13.27 | tmzt | ok |
| 20:13.32 | tmzt | that makes sense |
| 20:13.45 | tmzt | and data connection? |
| 20:13.50 | cr2 | tmzt: wince nand partitions-> |
| 20:13.54 | cr2 | 12:00:00 GetInfoEx+ |
| 20:13.55 | cr2 | 12:00:00 Type=0, StartP=0x0, NumP=0x0, NumL=0x1a, Sec/Blk=0x40, B/Blk=0x20000, Compact=0. |
| 20:13.57 | cr2 | 12:00:00 Type=1, StartP=0x0, NumP=0x0, NumL=0x259, Sec/Blk=0x40, B/Blk=0x20000, Compact=2. |
| 20:13.58 | cr2 | 12:00:00 Type=2, StartP=0x0, NumP=0x0, NumL=0xffffffff, Sec/Blk=0x40, B/Blk=0x20000, Compact=104. |
| 20:14.00 | cr2 | 12:00:00 GetInfoEx- |
| 20:14.04 | tmzt | does echo -n up:rmnet0 > /dev/qmi0 work? |
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| 20:14.11 | tmzt | then ifconfig rmnet0 |
| 20:14.15 | Gnutoo | tmzt, I'll try |
| 20:14.18 | tmzt | or cat /dev/qmi0 & |
| 20:14.20 | tmzt | first |
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| 20:14.59 | tmzt | cr2: so we can parse that or use GetInfoEx and pass as MSMce |
| 20:15.13 | tmzt | or whatever you called it |
| 20:15.31 | tmzt | why did we not have this becfore? |
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| 20:16.39 | Gnutoo | let me find it |
| 20:16.44 | Gnutoo | I added things like msm72xx_enable_audpp |
| 20:16.59 | tmzt | using sysfs? |
| 20:19.51 | Gnutoo | http://pastebin.com/m409b12ba |
| 20:20.00 | Gnutoo | here are my changes |
| 20:20.36 | Gnutoo | there is also some changes in other places than hardware/msm7k/libaudio but they are only for the removal of the acoustic thing |
| 20:20.42 | Gnutoo | all my sources are at: |
| 20:20.59 | Gnutoo | http://gitorious.org/replicant/ |
| 20:21.08 | Gnutoo | in replicant's branch |
| 20:21.33 | cr2 | wifi 8806 |
| 20:21.44 | cr2 | 8000+800+4+4 |
| 20:21.45 | Gnutoo | tmzt, data connection doesn't work yet...I have to find why |
| 20:21.46 | cr2 | 8000+800+4+2 |
| 20:22.08 | Gnutoo | tmzt, no no daya yet |
| 20:22.10 | phh | cr2: that's the address of eeprom ? |
| 20:22.17 | tmzt | Gnutoo: do you have wl12xx working with android? |
| 20:22.30 | Gnutoo | tmzt, I've not modified the kernel |
| 20:22.40 | tmzt | anything on /dev/qmi0 ? |
| 20:22.46 | Gnutoo | I did it in the past but during a new checkout I forgtten to setup that |
| 20:22.56 | cr2 | msmp, msme1, wlan, rftx |
| 20:22.58 | tmzt | kernel doesn't have ieee80211 or mac80211 does it? |
| 20:23.07 | cr2 | phh: wifi vregs on topa100 |
| 20:23.19 | tmzt | the clocks? |
| 20:23.39 | tmzt | rftx is radio power/rfkill? |
| 20:23.47 | Gnutoo | tmzt, no the free blob wifi |
| 20:23.55 | cr2 | 1,b,c,d |
| 20:24.00 | tmzt | yes I know |
| 20:24.13 | tmzt | but those things aren't built in kernel? |
| 20:24.21 | Gnutoo | tmzt, leviathan has got wl12xx with GNU/Linux...that's all that I know...he followed a howto that I can find if you want |
| 20:24.25 | tmzt | if they aren't try wireless-compat |
| 20:24.27 | cr2 | wiki says b,c,d |
| 20:24.35 | tmzt | I've read it |
| 20:24.37 | Gnutoo | tmzt, indeed |
| 20:24.41 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 20:24.42 | tmzt | still doesn't work for me |
| 20:24.51 | tmzt | but I need eeprom/dmesg |
| 20:24.54 | Gnutoo | tmzt, ah but does it work on GNU/Linux |
| 20:24.57 | phh | tmzt: i'm trying to use wl12xx on android. |
| 20:25.02 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:25.06 | cr2 | IOCTL_HAL_ENABLE_VoIP |
| 20:25.08 | tmzt | I'm on raph500 |
| 20:25.19 | phh | cr2: OO ? |
| 20:25.38 | phh | VoIP goes through bigbrother^Warm9? |
| 20:26.06 | tmzt | it's probably sip |
| 20:26.12 | cr2 | phh: no idea |
| 20:26.15 | cr2 | 12:00:05 [D:WLAN] 5472 WLANMSG:EEPROM signature=0xee1251, length=752 |
| 20:26.17 | cr2 | 12:00:05 [D:WLAN] 5472 WLANMSG:EEPROM ver=6.3.7 |
| 20:26.18 | cr2 | 12:00:05 [D:WLAN] 5472 WLANMSG:EEPROM CountryID=0x30 |
| 20:26.19 | tmzt | they wanted to hardcode it in bsp |
| 20:26.25 | cr2 | WLANMSG:map CountryID=0x30 to channel table |
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| 20:26.37 | tmzt | no address though? |
| 20:26.49 | phh | cr2: can't you dump the whole dmesg somewhere ? :) |
| 20:27.25 | cr2 | so your eeprom aka calibration determines the frequency table |
| 20:27.28 | cr2 | phh: 1MB |
| 20:28.13 | cr2 | tmzt: something for you too -> |
| 20:28.16 | cr2 | 12:00:06 [D:SMD] SerInit: device name is 'DMR1:'. |
| 20:28.17 | cr2 | 12:00:06 [D:SMD] SerInit: DMR1: is SIO_PORT_SMD_DIAG. |
| 20:28.34 | tmzt | since these things obviously work in only one country |
| 20:28.46 | tmzt | maybe |
| 20:28.50 | tmzt | if it's enabled |
| 20:29.06 | cr2 | omg |
| 20:29.09 | cr2 | 12:00:06 [D:SMD] SerInit: device name is 'SMD7:'. |
| 20:29.11 | cr2 | 12:00:06 [D:SMD] SerGetRxBufferSize: RingBufferSize=64KB. |
| 20:29.25 | tmzt | but how did we miss this stuff? |
| 20:29.33 | tmzt | would have saved months |
| 20:30.18 | cr2 | tmzt: ? |
| 20:30.50 | cr2 | not all ringbuffers are 64k |
| 20:31.02 | tmzt | right |
| 20:31.09 | tmzt | this stuff meaning dmesg |
| 20:31.23 | tmzt | we knew about it, why didn't we have all these sizes before |
| 20:31.30 | cr2 | [K][INT-En]SYSINTR_ADSP_A11_ISR |
| 20:31.33 | cr2 | tmzt: we had |
| 20:32.11 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:32.14 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] AUDIO: IsDeviceEncryptionEnabled() return 0 |
| 20:32.25 | tmzt | pap |
| 20:32.33 | tmzt | not used yet |
| 20:32.37 | tmzt | maybe with mdhi |
| 20:32.41 | tmzt | hdmi |
| 20:32.44 | cr2 | audio ?? |
| 20:32.47 | cr2 | open AudioPara3_Boot.csv success!! |
| 20:32.54 | tmzt | yes |
| 20:32.57 | tmzt | boot? |
| 20:32.57 | cr2 | Read AudioPara file 1917 bytes...(boot) |
| 20:33.21 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] UpdateAudioAdieTable(bAudioUplinkReq 0,bAUXBypassReq 0,bEnableHSSD=0) |
| 20:33.22 | cr2 | DEX_CMD_STATUS_COMPLETE 0x1C |
| 20:33.28 | cr2 | yes, something new. |
| 20:33.49 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] WAV: ReadBootAudioPara success 0 |
| 20:33.50 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] Audpp: Audio Pre-Processing table inint success |
| 20:33.52 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] IIR Filter Table: 1 th |
| 20:33.53 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] UpdateAudioFilterCoeff Type:0 Curr_Type:0 status:1 |
| 20:34.24 | tmzt | is it in xip then? |
| 20:34.29 | tmzt | boot.csv |
| 20:34.47 | cr2 | in \windows |
| 20:34.58 | cr2 | the mixer settings |
| 20:35.03 | tmzt | ok |
| 20:35.04 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] SetInitBass : Open BASSSTATE fail!!! |
| 20:35.04 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] SetInitTreble : Open TREBLESTATE fail!!! |
| 20:35.05 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:AUD] SetInitValue: Open EQGAIN fail!!! |
| 20:35.56 | cr2 | gsensor calibration is in nand |
| 20:35.59 | cr2 | IOCTL_FMD_READ_CONFIG_DATA:0x400 |
| 20:36.11 | tmzt | FMD? |
| 20:36.17 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:GSNR] Calibrate Offset: x = 26,y = -52,z = 0 |
| 20:36.20 | cr2 | 12:00:07 [D:GSNR] Read G-sensor calibration data from flash. |
| 20:36.24 | tmzt | yeah |
| 20:38.28 | cr2 | FlashXXXDevice |
| 20:40.34 | cr2 | 12:00:08 Turn on PMIC VREG[0x100]. |
| 20:40.36 | cr2 | 12:00:08 [D:CAM] Turn on sensor VDDD 1.8v OK |
| 20:40.50 | cr2 | 12:00:08 Turn on PMIC VREG[0x400000] |
| 20:40.56 | cr2 | 12:00:08 Turn on PMIC VREG[0x20] |
| 20:41.03 | cr2 | camera pmic vregs |
| 20:41.18 | tmzt | one too many Ds |
| 20:41.26 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:41.28 | cr2 | aha |
| 20:41.30 | cr2 | $$$ +adsp_rtos_app_to_modem cmd 0, module 3 |
| 20:41.34 | cr2 | module 3 |
| 20:41.43 | tmzt | hey |
| 20:42.10 | tmzt | and not just the number for the vreg but the value too |
| 20:42.26 | cr2 | QDSP_MODULE_AUDPPTASK=0x3 |
| 20:42.42 | cr2 | tmzt: it's only the bit (vreg name) |
| 20:43.00 | cr2 | $$$ +adsp_rtos_app_to_modem cmd 0, module 30 |
| 20:43.02 | tmzt | ok |
| 20:43.05 | tmzt | right |
| 20:43.17 | tmzt | 30? |
| 20:43.20 | cr2 | hm. 30. not in my list yet |
| 20:43.28 | cr2 | adsp_6120.c |
| 20:43.40 | cr2 | $$$ +adsp_rtos_app_to_modem cmd 0, module 31 |
| 20:43.45 | cr2 | this is something new. |
| 20:43.53 | cr2 | there are 6 images |
| 20:44.00 | tmzt | this is topa? |
| 20:44.09 | cr2 | yes |
| 20:44.17 | cr2 | they enumerate xids now |
| 20:44.19 | tmzt | ok |
| 20:44.20 | cr2 | [RPC] s 4ee4ad70 4ee4acf0 xid:2 |
| 20:44.22 | tmzt | not raph |
| 20:44.23 | cr2 | that's good |
| 20:44.25 | tmzt | I see |
| 20:44.32 | tmzt | right |
| 20:44.41 | cr2 | tmzt: btw, topa and rhod are much more different than raph and diam |
| 20:45.01 | cr2 | topa uses tiacx and brf6300 |
| 20:45.35 | cr2 | rhod has bcm4325 for wifi. and something for bt. maybe also bcm4325, but there is no linux driver afaik. |
| 20:46.00 | cr2 | cam is MT9P012 |
| 20:46.20 | cr2 | and MI380. that's ok |
| 20:46.36 | tmzt | might be ti bt with rds |
| 20:47.10 | tmzt | well |
| 20:47.19 | cr2 | oh |
| 20:47.22 | cr2 | [D:RIL] ParseGetRadioCUST: dwAGPSNVSetting=1 dwAGPSNVSettingReg=5 |
| 20:47.27 | tmzt | bcm will be hard |
| 20:47.32 | tmzt | yeah |
| 20:47.40 | cr2 | bt is not hard. |
| 20:47.43 | cr2 | the fm radio |
| 20:47.45 | tmzt | I hope to get a dm client for setting ip |
| 20:47.59 | phh | there is a mt9p012 driver in samsung I7500 source code |
| 20:48.00 | tmzt | actually we may be able to use the one from gsm pre |
| 20:48.23 | cr2 | wince checks some gpio (probably of arm9) for region id now. |
| 20:48.52 | cr2 | [D:SD] SD power off+ |
| 20:49.00 | cr2 | Turn off PMIC VREG[0x800000] |
| 20:49.08 | cr2 | ok, it's the same as raph/diam |
| 20:49.19 | tmzt | region id? |
| 20:50.27 | cr2 | for amss probably |
| 20:50.37 | cr2 | omg, they use DMA now for SD :) |
| 20:50.39 | cr2 | [D:SD] DMOV dev 0 chan 8 user init complete12:00:08 [D:SD] DMOV dev 0 chan 10 |
| 20:51.01 | tmzt | and bt? |
| 20:51.12 | cr2 | SYSINTR_SDC_2_0 Enable |
| 20:51.17 | cr2 | 2_0 ? |
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| 20:51.25 | tmzt | wifi? |
| 20:51.46 | cr2 | bt is not sdio |
| 20:51.46 | cr2 | probably |
| 20:51.46 | cr2 | tmzt: we use 10 for usb afair |
| 20:52.14 | tmzt | it looks dynamic |
| 20:52.15 | cr2 | 12:00:08 [D:H2W] H2WHW_EnableH2WInterface |
| 20:52.17 | cr2 | 12:00:08 [D:H2W] Disable FS_USB power |
| 20:52.22 | tmzt | what is user init? |
| 20:52.25 | cr2 | they have USB host ? |
| 20:52.32 | tmzt | no client |
| 20:52.40 | tmzt | fs usb |
| 20:52.45 | tmzt | udc port |
| 20:52.55 | cr2 | ok# |
| 20:53.00 | cr2 | something new here -> |
| 20:53.03 | cr2 | 12:00:08 Turn off PMIC VREG[0x10000]. |
| 20:53.05 | cr2 | 12:00:08 [D:H2W] H2WHW_PowerOff |
| 20:53.06 | tmzt | I meant hsuart dma |
| 20:53.33 | cr2 | they used UART2DM already |
| 20:54.13 | tmzt | what is user init for dmov? |
| 20:54.19 | tmzt | what is 12:00:08 |
| 20:54.26 | cr2 | timestamp |
| 20:54.35 | tmzt | and then why does it say chan 10 instead? |
| 20:54.39 | tmzt | ah |
| 20:54.53 | cr2 | xid: logging is good. it'll be easy to correlate it with rpc dump |
| 20:55.23 | leviathan | tmzt: I have built a bitbake-recipe |
| 20:55.32 | cr2 | 12:00:09 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPSDriverModemResetCB] Radio Restart: modem is up and running again |
| 20:55.33 | cr2 | 1 |
| 20:55.35 | cr2 | aha |
| 20:55.42 | leviathan | which builds wl12xx-drivers and installs them into /lib/modules/wifi |
| 20:55.45 | phh | GPSDriverModem .... ? |
| 20:55.51 | leviathan | I'll post it |
| 20:55.52 | leviathan | mom |
| 20:55.56 | cr2 | tmzt: modem is ARM9 |
| 20:56.03 | phh | cr2: oh ok |
| 20:56.40 | cr2 | 12:00:09 [D:GPS] GPS: [GPSDriverProcessModemStateChanged] +++ Waiting for hGpsModemStateChanged event |
| 20:56.41 | cr2 | 12:00:09 [D:GPS] GPS: +++[NMEAThread] IN, ThreadPriority = 251 |
| 20:56.42 | cr2 | 12:00:09 [D:GPS] GPS: [NMEAThread] +++ Wait for PosReqSentEvent |
| 20:57.12 | cr2 | phh: [D:BT] FM_getDebugMode=0 |
| 20:57.23 | cr2 | phh: is it possible to enable FM command logging ? |
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| 20:57.54 | phh | cr2: we tried with a registry file, but got no luck |
| 20:59.27 | cr2 | phh: yes, ok |
| 20:59.53 | cr2 | MapFrameBufferVirtualAddr: dwFrameBufferPhysical=0x15000780 |
| 21:00.03 | cr2 | MapFrameBufferVirtualAddr: dwFrameBufSize=0xbb800 dwOffset=0x780 |
| 21:00.13 | cr2 | bb800 ? |
| 21:00.45 | cr2 | awk '{print 0xbb800}' |
| 21:00.47 | cr2 | 768000 |
| 21:01.11 | cr2 | awk '{print 0xbb800/480/800}' |
| 21:01.12 | cr2 | 2 |
| 21:01.18 | cr2 | ok, it's 16bit lcd |
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| 21:01.27 | phh | or 18bit shrunk to 16 |
| 21:01.30 | cr2 | phh: we have it tough with 18bit ;) |
| 21:02.02 | phh | yeah but we have 4* more colors ! :D |
| 21:02.13 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:02.29 | cr2 | reminded me the ipaqs with 4096 colors |
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| 21:02.41 | phh | not exactly the same thing :p |
| 21:03.03 | cr2 | hp replaced them ecause of false advertisement afair |
| 21:03.07 | leviathan | http://ftp.o2s.ch/pub/compat-wireless-msmwifi_2.6.bb |
| 21:03.11 | cr2 | as 16bit |
| 21:03.19 | leviathan | here a bitbake file |
| 21:03.25 | leviathan | for compat-wireless |
| 21:03.32 | leviathan | if someone needs it |
| 21:04.30 | cr2 | tmzt: more for you |
| 21:04.33 | cr2 | 12:00:13 [D:TP] InitBiotouch...Done. |
| 21:04.35 | cr2 | 12:00:13 [D:TP] MFG calibrated is not applied. Read calibration data from flash. |
| 21:04.36 | cr2 | IOCTL_FMD_READ_CONFIG_DATA:0x400 |
| 21:05.10 | cr2 | so the touchscreen calibration is also in nand |
| 21:05.27 | swc|666 | so wl1251 runs on mac80211 stack right? |
| 21:05.31 | cr2 | no more bizarre "android" code ;) |
| 21:05.44 | phh | swc|666: yes |
| 21:06.07 | swc|666 | is the driver stable for the raph? |
| 21:06.12 | swc|666 | on the raph* |
| 21:06.31 | phh | on GNU/Linux ? |
| 21:06.33 | phh | it seems so |
| 21:06.34 | phh | on android |
| 21:06.36 | phh | it seems not. |
| 21:07.36 | leviathan | I only know, that it works perfect on htcdream and nokia handies |
| 21:07.43 | swc|666 | awesome (i dont use android) |
| 21:07.53 | leviathan | but it should also run on other htc-phones |
| 21:07.53 | phh | swc|666: what do you use ? |
| 21:07.59 | leviathan | because its the same chip |
| 21:08.00 | swc|666 | debian |
| 21:08.06 | swc|666 | phh, ^ |
| 21:08.09 | phh | swc|666: no gui ? |
| 21:08.12 | swc|666 | nope |
| 21:08.18 | leviathan | and it depends on the kernel, so it should work properly |
| 21:08.24 | phh | ok. |
| 21:08.37 | swc|666 | i need to buy another raph, i should have another one in the next couple of days |
| 21:08.52 | phh | swc|666: hu ? why do you "need" that ? |
| 21:09.02 | phh | if you have enough funds i'd like one raph too :D |
| 21:09.07 | swc|666 | :p |
| 21:09.14 | swc|666 | craigslist ftw |
| 21:09.24 | phh | (buying a diam was a bad idea, i should have bought a raph.) |
| 21:10.04 | cr2 | hahah. IOCTL_FMD_READ_WRITE_CAB_INFO |
| 21:10.18 | phh | ?!? |
| 21:10.27 | swc|666 | is usb host working on the raph? |
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| 21:10.55 | phh | swc|666: i think it does with codeaurora's branch |
| 21:11.35 | swc|666 | phh, but thats for android right? |
| 21:11.40 | phh | no |
| 21:11.51 | swc|666 | oh wow |
| 21:11.54 | phh | what would you do with usb host for android hu ? |
| 21:12.02 | swc|666 | didnt see the MSM/QSD Linux b4 |
| 21:12.29 | swc|666 | phh, to plug in a few different usb peripherals |
| 21:12.35 | swc|666 | i have a power injector as well |
| 21:12.41 | phh | yeah but for android it's useless. |
| 21:13.01 | phh | or maybe with heavy code change |
| 21:13.10 | phh | so that's why it's not for android but GNU/Linux :p |
| 21:13.49 | cr2 | CAB_INFO is handled by the OS now. dumbing down aka iphonization |
| 21:14.49 | swc|666 | phh, nice.. yea i use GNU/Linux exclusively ( i hate nadroid tbh) |
| 21:14.53 | swc|666 | android even |
| 21:15.17 | phh | well i hate it too, but i love market so i'm trying to get android working. |
| 21:15.31 | swc|666 | on the diam? |
| 21:15.35 | phh | yes |
| 21:15.52 | swc|666 | no fun :/ |
| 21:15.57 | phh | lol why ? |
| 21:16.37 | phh | time to go sleeping anyway |
| 21:16.47 | cr2 | phh: do you run nadroid with 115MB now ? |
| 21:16.54 | phh | cr2: hu ? |
| 21:16.55 | phh | no |
| 21:17.09 | phh | that would be useful. |
| 21:17.13 | cr2 | phh: you have second smi chip ? |
| 21:17.39 | phh | don't know |
| 21:17.46 | cr2 | phh: mdrobnak put all android allocations in the second EBI1 bank, and freed all 115MB in the first bank for linux. |
| 21:17.51 | leviathan | | /mnt/sda/fso/build/tmp/cross/armv6-novfp/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtWebKit |
| 21:18.00 | phh | cr2: oh great |
| 21:18.05 | cr2 | phh: how much ram do you have ? |
| 21:18.07 | leviathan | does someone have an idea, how to fix this? |
| 21:18.26 | phh | cr2: i don't know and i don't know how to check |
| 21:18.26 | cr2 | phh: 115MB will make nadroid segfault less ;) |
| 21:18.33 | leviathan | has a problem with | /mnt/sda/fso/build/tmp/cross/armv6-novfp/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtWebKit |
| 21:18.36 | cr2 | phh: yoi have 192MB ? |
| 21:18.49 | cr2 | leviathan: compile webkit ? |
| 21:19.07 | leviathan | hmm, the problem is that it has been installed |
| 21:19.09 | phh | cr2: how to check ? |
| 21:19.20 | cr2 | phh diam100 ? |
| 21:19.22 | phh | yes |
| 21:19.36 | cr2 | 128 (ebi1)+64(smi) |
| 21:19.48 | leviathan | ls tmp/staging/armv6-novfp-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/qtopia/QtWebKit/QtWebKit |
| 21:19.49 | leviathan | exists |
| 21:20.06 | cr2 | leviathan: ldd ? |
| 21:20.20 | phh | cr2: there is only one ebi1 bank then ? |
| 21:20.28 | cr2 | phh: yes |
| 21:20.35 | phh | :( |
| 21:20.42 | phh | cr2: i assume raph100 has two ? |
| 21:20.56 | phh | i assume i really should have bought a raph. |
| 21:20.57 | cr2 | phh: but you have extra 32MB smi, compared to raph100 |
| 21:21.02 | phh | ah ok |
| 21:21.10 | phh | they love complicated things |
| 21:21.22 | cr2 | raph has 256(ebi1)+32(smi) |
| 21:21.32 | phh | cr2: is it possible to say to kernel to use smi ? |
| 21:21.33 | cr2 | you have 128(ebi1)+64(smi) |
| 21:21.49 | cr2 | phh: yes. and you are already using parts of it. |
| 21:22.01 | phh | oh. |
| 21:22.19 | cr2 | yeah, it's a bit confusing and undocumented. |
| 21:22.42 | cr2 | phh: can you cu on /dev/smd0 ? |
| 21:22.57 | phh | cu ... ? |
| 21:24.10 | cr2 | 'cu' |
| 21:24.22 | cr2 | cu -l /dev/smd0 |
| 21:24.32 | phh | connected |
| 21:24.38 | cr2 | chown root.uucp /dev/smd0 |
| 21:24.39 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:24.42 | cr2 | atv1 |
| 21:24.44 | cr2 | ate1 |
| 21:24.51 | phh | ok/ok |
| 21:25.30 | cr2 | at+q3gncell? |
| 21:25.40 | phh | just got +CREG: 1,"1800","CE98" before at+q3gncell |
| 21:25.50 | cr2 | it's ok |
| 21:25.56 | cr2 | was at+creg=2 |
| 21:26.07 | cr2 | at+q2gncell? |
| 21:26.09 | cr2 | at+q2gncell=? |
| 21:26.14 | cr2 | at+q3gncell=? |
| 21:26.19 | phh | with the ? |
| 21:26.29 | cr2 | yes |
| 21:27.20 | phh | error for all |
| 21:27.35 | cr2 | ok. so it's an amss6120 feature |
| 21:28.07 | cr2 | do you have the fieldtest.exe app ? |
| 21:28.32 | phh | i don't think so |
| 21:29.14 | phh | anyway i can't continue today, i have to sleep, take your tests for tomorrow |
| 21:29.43 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:29.58 | cr2 | good night |
| 21:30.45 | leviathan | cr2: good night |
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| 22:02.56 | Marajin | whoops |
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| 22:03.47 | Marajin | yo Captnoord |
| 22:03.56 | Marajin | hey AstainHellbring |
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| 22:21.34 | tmzt | Epsylon3: |
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| 22:31.49 | tmzt | can we add mtdro for mfg yet? |
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| 22:40.43 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: So I got a pre |
| 22:41.04 | AstainHellbring | cool Marajin |
| 22:41.06 | AstainHellbring | how is it? |
| 22:41.18 | AstainHellbring | Marajin when did you get sprint? |
| 22:41.28 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: I'm english, eeeeenglish |
| 22:41.38 | AstainHellbring | ohhhhh right it was just released on gsm wasnt it |
| 22:41.45 | Marajin | the pre was released in uk/eu on friday yeah |
| 22:41.58 | Marajin | although it, intervexingly, does claim to be a world phone in one of the info dialogs |
| 22:42.06 | AstainHellbring | how is it? |
| 22:42.20 | Marajin | Well.. in theory I like it, though a few things niggle at me |
| 22:42.38 | tmzt | it still has cdma? |
| 22:42.40 | Marajin | I don't particularily like the way it handles sms messaging.. |
| 22:42.50 | Marajin | tmzt: well that'd be the implication yeah.. |
| 22:43.03 | AstainHellbring | if it has no meid then its not |
| 22:43.06 | Marajin | the EU/UK app catalog is fucking /bear/ |
| 22:43.09 | AstainHellbring | does it list a meid? |
| 22:43.09 | Marajin | *bare |
| 22:43.10 | tmzt | Marajin: come to #webos-internals |
| 22:43.23 | tmzt | AstainHellbring: doesn't gsm use meid now? |
| 22:43.37 | AstainHellbring | no tmzt |
| 22:43.38 | tmzt | that's one of the first things fixed |
| 22:43.40 | AstainHellbring | gsm uses imei |
| 22:43.53 | tmzt | still? ok |
| 22:43.57 | AstainHellbring | yep still |
| 22:44.02 | Marajin | it has bunches of numbers though none of them seem to be meid |
| 22:44.10 | Marajin | what in the fsck is an 'MSN' number ? |
| 22:44.22 | tmzt | where? |
| 22:44.40 | tmzt | any long hex string? |
| 22:44.55 | Marajin | it's not hex, it's full alphanumeric |
| 22:45.14 | tmzt | ask in internals |
| 22:45.38 | Marajin | hmm, I appear to have an IMEI and an ICCID number in the info dialogs.. |
| 22:45.56 | Marajin | however it also says 'World Ready' |
| 22:46.08 | AstainHellbring | might just mean its quad band |
| 22:46.18 | Marajin | could be |
| 22:48.48 | Marajin | the camera is kinda impressive and under featured at the same time |
| 22:49.04 | Marajin | I mean it has like 3 buttons... take photo, view album or disable/enable/automatic flash |
| 22:49.12 | Marajin | but the shutter lag is the lowest I've ever seen |
| 22:49.41 | AstainHellbring | thats cool |
| 22:50.37 | Marajin | it does seem to take shots in a fraction of a second |
| 22:51.38 | Marajin | the IM integration is shakey |
| 22:51.46 | Marajin | it tends to botch up AIM connections regularily |
| 22:51.59 | Marajin | and totally seems to ignore wifi connections for it |
| 22:52.05 | AstainHellbring | hmm |
| 22:52.30 | Marajin | and it does make me vaguely nervous that it doesn't appear to have a concept for "offline" |
| 22:52.53 | Marajin | it simply background connects and stays connected as much as it can with 0 user input on the matter |
| 22:53.07 | AstainHellbring | yank sim and that will offline it |
| 22:53.14 | Marajin | it doesn't even seem to bother saying whether it's connected or not since if it has a signal, it's connected |
| 22:53.17 | Marajin | heh |
| 22:53.27 | AstainHellbring | seems like it was designed around unlimited data conns |
| 22:53.35 | Marajin | well duh, I'm not that bothered while in country and I did find a toggle for whether it uses data while roaming |
| 22:53.45 | Marajin | but absolutely NO choice on whether it uses data when not roaming |
| 22:54.16 | Marajin | well o2 uk do automatically sell it with a data tariff, just like the iphone and such |
| 22:54.43 | Marajin | I ended up with er... 1200 minutes/1000 texts/unlimited data/unlimited wifi hotspots/75% discount on international calls |
| 22:55.42 | Marajin | anyway, I'm hoping we see a bunch of stuff appear in the app catalogue soon because they're already claiming that on friday the pre outsold every other handset combined |
| 22:56.09 | Marajin | and, amusingly, 50% of all sales also got a touchstone |
| 22:56.21 | AstainHellbring | I'd want one too |
| 22:56.29 | tmzt | camera is all dsp |
| 22:56.36 | tmzt | it's pretty incredible |
| 22:56.44 | Marajin | yeah I think the touchstone may be cheaper in the UK |
| 22:56.57 | Marajin | I'm sure they told me it was like 45 bucks here, isn't it 60-70 there? |
| 22:57.23 | tmzt | where did you get those numbers? |
| 22:57.38 | Marajin | the UK price? direct from o2 sales, the US price? vague memory from web |
| 22:57.53 | tmzt | there's a few gsm people in #webos-internals now |
| 22:57.58 | tmzt | the sales numbers |
| 22:58.03 | Marajin | oh, web article |
| 22:58.09 | AstainHellbring | US price is 60 for it |
| 22:59.05 | tmzt | but the threading thing and I think the roaming thing are fixed |
| 22:59.10 | Marajin | http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/o2-proclaims-palm-pre-opening-sales-a-success-643142 |
| 22:59.14 | tmzt | on cdma phones |
| 22:59.34 | Marajin | 'shifted more pres than we normally sell handsets in total on a friday' |
| 23:00.40 | Marajin | I misremembered slightly but still sounds like a good number shipped |
| 23:01.02 | Marajin | got in very early, phoned at 8am (opening time) |
| 23:01.17 | Marajin | it hit my doorstep by 8am saturday |
| 23:01.24 | Marajin | my touchstone didn't arrive though :( |
| 23:01.42 | Marajin | I did get the touchstone for free tho' |
| 23:03.22 | Marajin | tmzt: btw, firmware version confusion.. the version I got shipped with '1.1.2' and upgraded almost instantly to '1.1.3' but I see repeated mention of '1.2' and '1.3' online |
| 23:05.53 | tmzt | where? |
| 23:06.01 | tmzt | there is a 1.2 at least |
| 23:06.19 | tmzt | I don't know, you'd have to ask rwhitby |
| 23:06.31 | Marajin | in the updater software and in the 'device info' panel |
| 23:07.10 | tmzt | online where? |
| 23:12.12 | Marajin | iunno, google it |
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| 23:19.57 | Marajin | tmzt: huh, more googling implies that we're stuck at 1.1.3 despite being in the same versioning system as US phones and we won't get 1.2 till novemberish |
| 23:26.47 | tmzt | the code is similar though |
| 23:27.24 | tmzt | I'm not an expert on this, just been helping with research in #webos-internls since June |
| 23:30.03 | Marajin | cool |
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| 23:51.51 | tcccp | lunge, quite an interesting hostname |
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