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| 07:27.37 | cr2 | morning |
| 07:28.09 | Echo31 | cr2: HI |
| 07:28.26 | cr2 | hi Echo31 |
| 07:28.34 | cr2 | Echo31: v03 ? |
| 07:29.09 | cr2 | Echo31: do you have a defconfig for athena ? |
| 07:30.06 | Echo31 | cr2: i have still a "mode svc-32 ISA Arm segment" error on v03 |
| 07:30.19 | cr2 | ? |
| 07:31.39 | Echo31 | cr2: Can we watch together my .config in order to remove the unused items? |
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| 07:33.01 | cr2 | Echo31: pastebin |
| 07:33.50 | Echo31 | cr2: find http://fr.pastebin.ca/1572612 |
| 07:34.27 | cr2 | pastebin.ca does not work for me |
| 07:34.50 | cr2 | put it to privatepaste.com |
| 07:35.01 | Echo31 | cr2: ok |
| 07:36.22 | Echo31 | cr2: find http://privatepaste.com/31hiE1NZIJ |
| 07:36.25 | townkat | morning |
| 07:38.16 | cr2 | CONFIG_PXA_SSP=y ? |
| 07:38.36 | cr2 | Echo31: i thought you are using spi infrastructue ? |
| 07:38.53 | cr2 | CONFIG_PLAT_PXA=y |
| 07:38.57 | Echo31 | cr2: I use only spi |
| 07:39.02 | cr2 | don't know what's that |
| 07:39.48 | cr2 | CONFIG_OABI_COMPAT=y |
| 07:39.59 | cr2 | ok, we can leave it for now |
| 07:42.01 | cr2 | CONFIG_JOYSTICK_GSENSOR=y |
| 07:42.12 | cr2 | we can talk abut joystick later |
| 07:42.42 | cr2 | CONFIG_SERIAL_PXA_CONSOLE=y |
| 07:42.51 | cr2 | it's not very useful on athena |
| 07:43.32 | cr2 | CONFIG_SSB_POSSIBLE=y |
| 07:43.38 | cr2 | what's that ? |
| 07:44.25 | cr2 | CONFIG_HID_MICROSOFT=y |
| 07:44.26 | cr2 | ?? |
| 07:44.36 | Echo31 | cr2 the KCONFIG of pxa is |
| 07:44.39 | Echo31 | config ARCH_PXA |
| 07:44.39 | Echo31 | bool "PXA2xx/PXA3xx-based" |
| 07:44.39 | Echo31 | depends on MMU |
| 07:44.39 | Echo31 | select ARCH_MTD_XIP |
| 07:44.39 | Echo31 | select GENERIC_GPIO |
| 07:44.40 | Echo31 | select HAVE_CLK |
| 07:44.44 | Echo31 | select COMMON_CLKDEV |
| 07:44.46 | Echo31 | select ARCH_REQUIRE_GPIOLIB |
| 07:44.48 | Echo31 | select GENERIC_TIME |
| 07:44.50 | Echo31 | select GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS |
| 07:44.52 | Echo31 | select TICK_ONESHOT |
| 07:44.54 | Echo31 | select PLAT_PXA |
| 07:44.56 | Echo31 | help |
| 07:44.58 | Echo31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.27 | cr2 | ok |
| 07:45.42 | Echo31 | cr2: I use MS keyboard and mouse on usb host |
| 07:45.45 | cr2 | sounds like some ancient ipaq stuff |
| 07:45.58 | cr2 | ok |
| 07:47.49 | cr2 | looks good |
| 07:48.06 | cr2 | i'll compile the kernel with it |
| 07:48.35 | Echo31 | cr2: ok |
| 07:50.08 | cr2 | i compile on nc10, so it's a bit slow |
| 07:51.05 | cr2 | privatepaste has an evil habit of adding ^M |
| 07:51.53 | cr2 | +CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_S1R72V03=y |
| 07:52.01 | cr2 | need the driver too ? |
| 07:52.32 | cr2 | +CONFIG_COMMON_PWMDEV=y |
| 07:52.40 | Echo31 | cr2: do you want now? |
| 07:52.40 | cr2 | +CONFIG_PXA_RFKILL=y |
| 07:52.50 | cr2 | added by menuconfig |
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| 07:53.09 | cr2 | ok, then i need to remove it from .config |
| 07:54.17 | cr2 | compiling |
| 07:54.32 | cr2 | townkat: you should tell me something about blac100 |
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| 08:07.42 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.43 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.59 | cr2 | Echo31: hopefully you don't need the loop driver |
| 08:10.14 | Echo31 | cr2: I don't load the modules. What is the loop driver ? |
| 08:11.57 | cr2 | to mount some filesystems |
| 08:12.07 | cr2 | we don't need it right now |
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| 08:14.02 | cr2 | compiled |
| 08:14.06 | DRuNKeN_MaSTeR | Hi |
| 08:14.06 | cr2 | will try to boot |
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| 08:14.29 | Echo31 | cr2: Sometime, I use a angstrom system on the harddisk usb from usb host |
| 08:15.21 | DRuNKeN_MaSTeR | I'm pretty new to this theme, but tried ARAN's build on my X1 and I must say, I'm impressed. |
| 08:17.33 | cr2 | Echo31: i have a qtopia rootfs compiled by kiozen on the usb stick |
| 08:21.24 | Echo31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.26 | cr2 | got an oops |
| 08:23.33 | cr2 | resetting |
| 08:24.27 | cr2 | i wanted to use the initramfs dcordes compiled for raph |
| 08:24.55 | cr2 | maybe it was armv6 |
| 08:30.29 | cr2 | can't mount root sda2 |
| 08:30.31 | cr2 | hmm |
| 08:30.53 | cr2 | need to check .config |
| 08:34.05 | Echo31 | cr2: what is your filesystem? |
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| 08:37.43 | cr2 | forgot the rootdelay |
| 08:42.41 | cr2 | got angstrom splash |
| 08:42.56 | cr2 | it's doing something |
| 08:43.49 | cr2 | hmm |
| 08:44.47 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.36 | cr2 | Echo31: usb keyboard is not an option. need a hub for that |
| 08:46.41 | cr2 | First KB connection |
| 08:46.56 | cr2 | does not work though |
| 08:47.07 | cr2 | no virtual terminals ? |
| 08:47.30 | cr2 | Echo31: where is ALT ? |
| 08:48.38 | cr2 | many useless buttons, but no ALT |
| 08:49.57 | Echo31 | cr2: ALT is with kbd loadmap |
| 08:50.07 | cr2 | yeah |
| 08:50.14 | cr2 | need to rotate console too |
| 08:50.36 | cr2 | ok, ned to look at the old rootfs |
| 08:51.19 | Echo31 | cr2: do you have a qwerty kbd or azerty |
| 08:51.24 | cr2 | ALT-F1 will be fun |
| 08:52.28 | cr2 | no message on keyboard disconnect |
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| 08:56.28 | cr2 | 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 |
| 08:56.30 | cr2 | hmm |
| 08:56.48 | Echo31 | cr2: the message is printk(KERN_DEBUG "athena: keyboard status changed to %s\n" |
| 08:57.17 | cr2 | Echo31: does not pop at the console |
| 08:59.48 | Echo31 | cr2: Perhaps, a gpio must be set to 1 for the kbd disconnection |
| 09:01.52 | cr2 | disable power |
| 09:02.10 | cr2 | you get an irq for connect/disconnect |
| 09:04.56 | cr2 | on connect you enable power, on disconnect disable |
| 09:06.54 | Echo31 | cr2: I do GPIO69_HTCATHENA_KBD_POWER 0 for disconnect and 1 for connect |
| 09:07.12 | cr2 | ok |
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| 09:09.59 | cr2 | 1 is wrong rotation. |
| 09:10.02 | cr2 | =3 ? |
| 09:12.30 | cr2 | something is broken with my rootfs |
| 09:12.55 | cr2 | Echo31: i need a working rootfs, or an initrd |
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| 09:18.10 | Echo31 | cr2: I can try to send my inird. for rootfs, I use angstrom from spitz. I only changed the mounted drives list |
| 09:19.29 | Echo31 | cr2: and I copied the directory 'lib' |
| 09:24.22 | Echo31 | cr2 I come back in few minutes |
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| 09:39.35 | Echo31 | cr2: I sent my initrd |
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| 10:50.56 | mickeyl | is there a way to forward the built-in modem e.g. of a raphael via usbtty? |
| 10:51.12 | mickeyl | [no matter whether from bootloader or winmobile] |
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| 10:54.31 | lusse | hi all |
| 10:59.28 | lusse | the phone keeps keylocking and I cant unlock :P |
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| 11:42.47 | dcordes-kais | good day |
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| 11:43.43 | nozze | it really is |
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| 12:13.39 | cr2 | dcordes-kais: patch time ? :) |
| 12:14.22 | Captnoord | cheers |
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| 12:29.43 | cr2 | dcordes-kais: your initramfs does not work on athena |
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| 13:38.36 | cr2 | ~ping dcordes-kais |
| 13:38.37 | apt | pong dcordes-kais |
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| 13:52.55 | Echo31 | cr2: did you receive the initrd? |
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| 14:25.09 | phh | I'm looking at the msm-2.6.27 branch source code, mostly the diamond parts. ATM i'm in htc_hw. Currently only handfree is available to user land, but according to AudioPara.c, headset would be usable ? |
| 14:31.25 | cr2_ | phh: you need to trace it |
| 14:31.56 | cr2_ | afaik BT headset is 3,0,0 |
| 14:32.50 | phh | I was thinking about wired headset |
| 14:33.05 | cr2_ | wired headset needs an irq handler, and should be 2,x,x |
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| 14:35.55 | phh | hum sorry i'm totally new to msm, what do you mean with trace ? tracing requests in windows mobile ? |
| 14:36.31 | Echo31 | cr2: |
| 14:39.09 | cr2_ | yes, the DEX call parameters |
| 14:39.42 | cr2_ | phh: these are two registers: cmd and param |
| 14:43.18 | cr2_ | Echo31: i've got the initrd, need to try it |
| 14:44.55 | phh | cr2_: seems hard to explain, if you have any links give it, else don't bother, i'll try to understand by myself how that msm works with reading source code |
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| 15:01.22 | cr2_ | phh: will take some time |
| 15:01.43 | cr2_ | msm is a real bigbrother phone |
| 15:02.15 | cr2_ | but i doubt that others are better |
| 15:02.57 | phh | for the moment i'm having troubles understanding how userlands communicates with kernel land. It seems android have some msm-specific code in userland ... |
| 15:04.28 | cr2_ | sound does device ioctl() calls |
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| 15:04.40 | cr2_ | gps/rpc too |
| 15:05.04 | cr2_ | opengl mmaps some memory. scary. |
| 15:05.21 | phh | nvidia driver on x86 does the same thing actually |
| 15:05.46 | cr2_ | the same shit ;) |
| 15:05.50 | phh | :) |
| 15:06.29 | cr2_ | but really scary is the arm9+amss |
| 15:07.29 | phh | arm9 is just an hypervisor ? |
| 15:07.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, is the kernel tree with working wifi on raph available? what kind of driver was used? the one from linux-wireless? and is sound via alsa working on msm generally? just asking cause i'm starting to explore my kovsky |
| 15:07.57 | cr2_ | phh: yeah. |
| 15:08.19 | cr2_ | phh: but if we can disable MPU, we can patch it in ram at runtime :) |
| 15:08.55 | cr2_ | Alex[sp3dev]: the current .27 kernel does not have alsa |
| 15:09.03 | phh | cr2_: would that be useful for anything other than fun ? |
| 15:09.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | cr2: how does one play sound then? |
| 15:09.30 | cr2_ | Alex[sp3dev]: and for wifi they used the binary tiacx.ko (but the source is available) |
| 15:10.01 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: that's what i'm looking into, it's really funny, it uses non-standard character devices. |
| 15:10.03 | cr2_ | Alex[sp3dev]: on non-adroid ? you use playwav2 program |
| 15:10.29 | cr2_ | phh: fun is the control of the phone |
| 15:10.33 | phh | ok |
| 15:11.02 | phh | cr2_: and can the amss be updated ? |
| 15:12.00 | cr2_ | phh: need to grep in the logs, but i think i've already said that: cut out the builtin mic, and take out the battery if you want to disable your personal tracking device. |
| 15:12.40 | phh | hu ? i must have misunderstood something. |
| 15:13.07 | phh | cr2_: q(a?)dsp stuff is done by which processor ? |
| 15:13.24 | phh | i thaught that one was amss |
| 15:13.42 | cr2_ | Alex[sp3dev]: i'd like to compile qtopia |
| 15:13.51 | cr2_ | phh: there are 2 dsps |
| 15:13.58 | cr2_ | adsp and mdsp |
| 15:14.08 | cr2_ | mdsp is controlled by arm9/amss |
| 15:15.25 | cr2_ | phh: amss may be reflashed, but i don't know if it must be rsa signed, or if it is checked and enforced |
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| 15:21.26 | phh_ | hum, server's overheating ... |
| 15:21.46 | phh_ | cr2_: so, there is arm9, amss, adsp, mdsp and arm11 ? I guess the wifi chip is also some processor... anything processoring thing else ? |
| 15:26.03 | cr2_ | amss is arm9 software |
| 15:26.40 | cr2_ | bt chip is also an armtdmi, not only wifi |
| 15:27.32 | phh | ok |
| 15:30.52 | cr2_ | hmm. audio volume goes through adsp |
| 15:48.15 | CarlAway | Is it normal for HaRET to just freeze at "Booting linux"? I would at least like to see some lines of code going up, as well as a TUX. |
| 15:48.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, normal, if you specify the wrong mtype (i.e. the one not in zimage) |
| 15:49.31 | CarlRhod | Hmm, time to build my own kernel I guess. Trying to run the Blackstone port on a Rhodium. Yes, I know; different LCD-panels... trying to get around that. |
| 15:50.13 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: what is the fbaddr on rhod100 ? |
| 15:50.40 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: just set the blac100 mtype in default.txt before booting |
| 15:50.53 | CarlRhod | And hooow would I go about finding that out? I'm just starting up this today, seeing as no one has a Rhodium, I'd figure I'd be the first, haha. |
| 15:51.23 | CarlRhod | Well, mtype for Rhodium is 2922. Black100 is 2030, |
| 15:51.40 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: telnet to haret and type 'print "FB=0x%x" VRAM' |
| 15:51.50 | cr2_ | set mtype 2030 |
| 15:52.08 | cr2_ | in the old days haret was printing fbaddr on startup |
| 15:52.22 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: you can create the file startup.txt |
| 15:52.36 | cr2_ | put the print command there, and just start haret |
| 15:52.55 | CarlRhod | As I said, I'm just starting this up today. No previous experience at all. Kubuntu just got done installing in VMware Fusion. |
| 15:52.56 | CarlRhod | Oh |
| 15:52.57 | cr2_ | the fbaddr will pop up in the window |
| 15:53.11 | CarlRhod | So just a set mtype 2030, and then "print "FB=0x%x" vram"? |
| 15:53.25 | cr2_ | no |
| 15:53.28 | CarlRhod | Or am I totally confused, haha. |
| 15:53.49 | cr2_ | for booting you need to add set mtype 2030 to default.txt |
| 15:54.06 | cr2_ | but before booting you need to find and change the fbaddr |
| 15:54.14 | cr2_ | so put |
| 15:54.26 | cr2_ | print "FB=0x%x" VRAM |
| 15:54.30 | cr2_ | to startup.txt |
| 15:54.36 | cr2_ | and run haret |
| 15:55.06 | CarlRhod | Well, the kernel I downloaded doesn't have a startup.exe. Just skimmed the wiki for Blackstone. |
| 15:55.24 | cr2_ | you need to recompile the kernel |
| 15:55.32 | CarlRhod | Ah, then give me a few. Kubuntu just booted. |
| 15:55.37 | cr2_ | because the fbaddr is hardcded |
| 15:55.58 | cr2_ | on topa100 the address is 0x15100780 |
| 15:56.13 | cr2_ | i guess you have the same, but you need to check |
| 15:56.23 | cr2_ | blac100 has a different address |
| 15:56.28 | cr2_ | i think :) |
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| 15:57.23 | cr2_ | we wil add the videoFB ATAG to haret soon |
| 15:58.36 | CarlRhod | I have to say, you're very patient, helping out a scrub like myself. Just running apt-get upgrade before I get the environments. |
| 15:59.23 | CarlRhod | How did you get Cupcake to even support wvga, cr2_ ? |
| 15:59.36 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: lol. worked too long at the university. it shows ;) |
| 16:00.08 | cr2_ | you can use the hw scaler i think. |
| 16:00.52 | CarlRhod | Should be easier with Donut, considering it supports up to wvga. |
| 16:01.06 | CarlRhod | 852x480 or something. Weird-ass resolution, really. |
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| 16:12.53 | CarlRhod | cr2_: Me running WM 6.5 won't matter for HaRET, would it? |
| 16:13.03 | CarlRhod | I see that in all the other videos, they're all running WM6.1. |
| 16:13.25 | CarlRhod | In both Blackstone and Raph/Diam videos. |
| 16:13.30 | cr2_ | afaik it works |
| 16:13.59 | cr2_ | 6.1 or 6.5 its only cosmetic |
| 16:14.39 | CarlRhod | It's just been on my mind since HaRET crashes at "Booting linux" and it's been staying at that screen for 15minutes (haven't rebooted phone since I started installing Linux). |
| 16:14.52 | phh | I confirm it works on 6.5 |
| 16:15.46 | CarlRhod | Good to know, phh . |
| 16:16.07 | cr2_ | wince is dead, so the picture stays |
| 16:16.52 | CarlRhod | cr2_: To me, it seems like Win dies before Android has a chance to boot on the rhodium, so it just hangs. |
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| 16:17.19 | CarlRhod | On my ELF, Android boots immediately. No hangups... then again, two different devices. |
| 16:18.44 | CarlRhod | Although, people have gotten it to boot on Blackstone. Only hardware-differences are the keyboard and LCD. Seeing as theres a 1,000,000:1 users with Blackstones to Rhodium, I have serious doubts that someone will come out with a driver for the Rhods lcd. |
| 16:19.18 | cr2_ | get the fbaddr |
| 16:20.41 | CarlRhod | Am on it. |
| 16:21.20 | CarlRhod | About to download the arm toolchain. |
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| 16:21.34 | xperia | hello ! |
| 16:21.45 | CarlRhod | xperia: howdy |
| 16:23.41 | CarlRhod | Ouch, 122K/s... that should say 2122K/s. Ten minute download. |
| 16:24.10 | xperia | hello CralRhod. good thnaks for the question ! how about you ? think i am seeng you first time here :-) |
| 16:25.29 | CarlRhod | I'm good, except for my phone giving me a headache. Yeah, I've been idling here mostly, this week, as I needed the weekend to set up Linux and my phone. Trying to get Android to work on a Rhodium, and CR2_ seems to be out of things to do so he shot me a headsup. |
| 16:27.44 | xperia | well getting running on winmo phones especially the new ones like rhodium or kovsky and so on is a heavy task. the iggest problem is the we dont have the research information |
| 16:28.09 | xperia | well getting linux running on winmo phones |
| 16:29.36 | xperia | it would be a awesome step forward if we would have specialized programm routines compiled in haret as a example that do the research based on the xperience of the older phones and print out the needed infrmation for filling up the wiki pages with the right data |
| 16:30.45 | xperia | as a example most phones have heavy problems with the memory. if you want to run android on yout phone you need to use the full memory on the phone that is availble |
| 16:31.29 | cr2_ | xperia: blame androids here |
| 16:31.56 | xperia | hmmmm its not about blaming. |
| 16:32.15 | cr2_ | it's not a linux or haret problem |
| 16:32.47 | xperia | it is a linux problem. when i boot in to angstrom linux and execute the command free i see only 79 M availble of 256 M in my phone |
| 16:33.30 | xperia | that is also the same for the other phones beside raphael and diamond belive |
| 16:33.30 | CarlRhod | xperia: Without Titanium, I'm running 30% on my Rhodium with Miri 1.2 |
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| 16:34.04 | phh | xperia: not a linux problem either.. it's a conception "feature" |
| 16:34.15 | phh | the memory is shared between all processors |
| 16:34.31 | cr2_ | xperia: add the second bank, if you have it. but if you want to run android, it wil crash. |
| 16:35.10 | CarlRhod | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.12 | cr2_ | i don't use android and run with 218M |
| 16:35.24 | CarlRhod | Wait, whops. :x |
| 16:35.48 | CarlRhod | Storage: 200mb, Program: 123mb. Am I even looking right? hah |
| 16:35.58 | cr2_ | xperia: can be more, but then i need to separate the nadroid-only features in the kernel |
| 16:36.00 | kvaster | 2 cr2_: and what are you using ? |
| 16:36.09 | xperia | cr2: hmmm does this mean if i boot now linux on my kovsky and execute the command free i will see the 256 M Memory that i have on my deveice ? if yes you have just earned 5 Euros man |
| 16:36.22 | cr2_ | kvaster: nothing so far. only angstrom initrd |
| 16:36.59 | CarlRhod | cr2_: What device do you have? As I've previously stated on XDA, I'll happily donate about 200 USD to a bonafide developer to get his/her hands on a Rhodium... |
| 16:37.02 | kvaster | 2 cr2_: oh, ok. Android is not good way to test changes in kernel, so i'm figuring out what will be best for now. |
| 16:37.06 | cr2_ | kvaster: for debugging. making BT run is the next great thing :) |
| 16:37.44 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: i have 6 different htc phones (i think) |
| 16:38.12 | cr2_ | athena and raph100 are the ones i currently hack on. |
| 16:38.22 | kvaster | ok. will try to load angstrom initrd today.. will see if it will be ok using it to tests. thanks. |
| 16:39.09 | cr2_ | kvaster: it is a debug initramfs compiled by dcordes. you can download it from his site |
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| 16:39.26 | mdrobnak | cr2_: That's a lot of HTC phones :-) |
| 16:39.27 | kvaster | ok. thanks. |
| 16:39.36 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: so it's not about money, but time. |
| 16:39.52 | CarlRhod | Ah. |
| 16:40.12 | CarlRhod | Well, zImage has been made. Now how did I go about getting that fbaddr? Something I should've specified BEFORE making zImage, or? |
| 16:40.45 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: you create the startup.txt file in the same directory as haret.exe |
| 16:41.03 | CarlRhod | Aw, shit... make[1]: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm/pm.o] Error 1 |
| 16:41.03 | CarlRhod | make: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm] Error 2 |
| 16:41.11 | xperia | cr2: dont see any changes in the repo related to the memory ! could it be possible that the patch for the second memory bank isnt pushed or published ? |
| 16:41.21 | CarlRhod | That error can't be right... |
| 16:41.22 | phh | CarlRhod: need gcc errors not make ones |
| 16:41.36 | cr2_ | xperia: it's you having this device ;) |
| 16:42.35 | mdrobnak | xperia: If it is anything like the RAPH, there's probably a "#if 0" around a second bank of memory statement in the fixup section of the board file.. |
| 16:43.30 | xperia | yeah exactly but i am missing the knoweledge how to research the needed infos ! thats why i have said, the best thing for speeding up the research for new devices if we put the knoweledge to new haret routines that do as a example the memory research and print out the needed info for writing it to the wiki page. |
| 16:44.56 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok guys, i know you're 'working hard' and have no time to clean the code, but the code in htc-msm is really hard to read. why do kovs, blac and diam have a lot of copy-paste from raph and even the same names for everything? maybe we should move all the 'generic' stuff from the platform code and replace all raph entries with corresponding aliases as to make it more readable? |
| 16:45.03 | xperia | mdrobnak; in raphael we have only one memory bank. kovsky is based on raphael board and for this we dont have the second bank in the sources. have proved the other boards for seeing how the seond bank is written but cant see it |
| 16:45.24 | CarlRhod | cr2_: How do I get the GCC errors? |
| 16:45.56 | CarlRhod | Want me to c>p a txt file with the whole make? |
| 16:46.26 | xperia | Alex[sp3dev]: thats something what i have also thinked but you have to know that sometimes you need to extend some sources and this new stuff can break other devices |
| 16:46.39 | mdrobnak | xperia, No, it's enabled. And if you don't pass mem=89M, Android crashes. But so far with the "fillmem" test, it's good up to 128. If it's good all the way up to 214, then it's down to figuring out why Android is crashing. |
| 16:46.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | xperia: do you want to activate the second memory bank on kovs right now? |
| 16:47.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | oh really, it is enabled. need to check the size yet) |
| 16:47.32 | mdrobnak | Alex[sp3dev], for the RAPH it's enabled. Sorry, if that wasn't clear. |
| 16:47.39 | xperia | i just want to have the full memory in linux angstrom. most people say i need some second bank but i ned first to know hwo to do this |
| 16:48.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, for kovs it is also enabled, but i think the values for setup may not be correct. gonna check it now |
| 16:48.31 | xperia | great alex tell me the results please ! |
| 16:49.15 | cr2_ | make V=1 |
| 16:49.15 | cr2_ | xperia: i bought the raph, because it has 2 banks. and tvout |
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| 16:49.35 | cr2_ | evil dhcp |
| 16:49.43 | xperia | mdrobnak: the full memory is not for android. i just want to fix the problem not having the full memory in linux ! |
| 16:50.19 | mdrobnak | xperia: Then you should be fine. As soon as I find the memtest app again, I am going to mirror it at my site (need to get it off a Virtual Machine, which I'm doing now) |
| 16:50.25 | xperia | executing the command "free" in linux gives me only 79 M |
| 16:50.53 | mdrobnak | xperia, Do you have "mem=79M" in the default.txt? |
| 16:51.42 | cr2_ | mdrobnak: more likely in the board-xperia.h |
| 16:52.13 | xperia | mdrobnak: yes and if i rise the value to a higher number like 128 linux dont boot. it even dont vibrate before it boot normally |
| 16:53.06 | mdrobnak | xperia Memory layout is set exactly the same as Raph. |
| 16:53.06 | xperia | mdrobnak: have found a memtester tool allready compiled for arm msm http://packages.debian.org/lenny/memtester |
| 16:53.17 | mdrobnak | Don't put mem=128M, it doesn't work. |
| 16:53.22 | mdrobnak | Just leave mem=anything off |
| 16:53.29 | mdrobnak | it'll let it be autodetected |
| 16:53.34 | mdrobnak | That gives me 214MB |
| 16:54.18 | xperia | ahh okay great to know! so how should the command now looks like. "mem=anything" or "mem=" |
| 16:54.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | just ignore the mem option |
| 16:54.51 | mdrobnak | Remove mem= from the command line |
| 16:55.12 | mdrobnak | And good find on the memtester tool. |
| 16:55.42 | mdrobnak | One problem is it's not statically compiled, though. |
| 16:55.47 | mdrobnak | You need a debian libc. |
| 16:55.48 | Alex[sp3dev] | damn, wince roms are huge these days.. even extracting the 200-mb rom and splitting it takes large time |
| 16:56.05 | cr2_ | lol |
| 16:56.23 | xperia | mdrobnak: i have all my programms from the debian armel port! just download extract it with "undeb" move it to initrd and reboot |
| 16:57.05 | mdrobnak | Cool. |
| 16:57.12 | mdrobnak | cr2_: "For hardware developers, memtester can be told to test memory starting at a particular physical address as of memtester version 4.1.0" That's useful. |
| 16:57.27 | mdrobnak | http://pyropus.ca/software/memtester/ |
| 16:57.51 | cr2_ | uses /dev/mem ? |
| 16:57.57 | mdrobnak | Not sure. |
| 16:58.25 | mdrobnak | We don't have /dev/mem, right? |
| 16:58.44 | mdrobnak | Darn. " -added the ability to test a specific physical region of memory (by mmap'ing |
| 16:58.44 | mdrobnak | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.44 | mdrobnak | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.30 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.11 | cr2_ | probably some functions is missing |
| 17:00.25 | cr2_ | or broken intentionally |
| 17:01.08 | cr2_ | CarlRhod: still alive ? |
| 17:01.15 | CarlRhod | Yeah. |
| 17:01.35 | CarlRhod | Accidentally shutdown Linux under new compile... downloading git again... "ha. Ha. ha." |
| 17:01.35 | xperia | okay just rebooted linux on my kovsky device without the mem comand option ! i have now this here if i execute "freemem" |
| 17:01.37 | xperia | Total: 216188 Used: 55900 Free:160288 |
| 17:01.38 | xperia | It looks now really good ! |
| 17:02.23 | xperia | somehow still missing 50 M |
| 17:02.31 | mdrobnak | same on raph. |
| 17:03.08 | xperia | in this case it is the raph bug :-) |
| 17:03.26 | cr2_ | used by amss, and reserved for some android-related things. |
| 17:04.50 | mdrobnak | cr2_ What was the gcc flag to link everything statically? -static ? |
| 17:05.17 | mdrobnak | Yep, that was it. Needed to change the link flags. |
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| 17:05.57 | mdrobnak | I'm going to try this "memtester" program and see if it works on all 214MB. |
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| 17:08.24 | cr2__ | 13MB are used by amss |
| 17:08.26 | xperia | hey cr2: the only reason why i have bought a htc device was becouse of you as a active linux developer in the early 2004 year for the htc athena port. |
| 17:08.28 | xperia | Having linux working on a phone was exactly was i wanted and with your very hard research and work for the msm arch this is allready possible. |
| 17:08.30 | xperia | I am staying to my word transfering you 5 Euros from my paypal account as thanks for the progress that linux has made on this phones. |
| 17:08.31 | xperia | i know 5 euros are just peanuts but on the other side it is better than nothing. |
| 17:08.33 | xperia | If it is okay for you give me the paypal adress and i will transfer the money in the next minutes ! |
| 17:08.59 | tmzt | anybody know about asus a626 kernel? |
| 17:09.16 | cr2__ | but you can recover 8MB from sram |
| 17:09.37 | cr2__ | xperia: i don't use paypal |
| 17:09.50 | xperia | bad |
| 17:09.52 | cr2__ | it's about free software, and not money |
| 17:10.37 | cr2__ | tmzt: can you boot on raph500 ? |
| 17:11.07 | cr2__ | xperia: so it's possible to boot linux with 251MB ram |
| 17:11.34 | xperia | normally without money you cant pay your bills. but okay if you not want the money as a gift i will keep it and maybe spend it to the project |
| 17:12.17 | xperia | at the moment i am having maximal 216 M availble |
| 17:13.11 | xperia | dont know what is needed to increase it to 251 M. having 251 is ofcourse awesome ! |
| 17:14.08 | tmzt | cr2__: haven't pulled |
| 17:14.20 | tmzt | not on ghe laptop |
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| 17:15.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | cr2, btw, raph has the 0x80000000 0x10000000 0x5a for first bank in nk.exe. that's 90 mb. xperia has 0x80000000 0x10000000 0x59. strangely, pmemmap (the windows tool from itsutils in case you didn't know, but probably you do) shows the regions size as 0x72. so, some questions arise. first off, shouldn't kovs bank 1 be reduced by 1 mb (like on raph where it's 89, while the nk has 90 defined)? |
| 17:16.15 | cr2__ | Alex[sp3dev]: it dpe |
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| 17:16.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | sorry? |
| 17:16.48 | cr2__ | Alex[sp3dev]: it depend on what is behind this limit |
| 17:17.03 | CarlRhod | Lol... |
| 17:17.32 | Alex[sp3dev] | lol, but look at board-htcraphael.h)) |
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| 17:18.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | #define MSM_PMEM_MDP_BASE MSM_LINUX_BASE + MSM_LINUX_SIZE is that msm-specific, platform-specific or 'developer-specific' definition? |
| 17:18.24 | cr2 | 'developer-specific' definition |
| 17:18.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | why not move that to the end of second bank then? |
| 17:18.48 | cr2 | in theory you can do it all with kmalloc() |
| 17:19.09 | cr2 | android people may be pissed |
| 17:19.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | why? does android use fixed values? i thought if we had a continuous memory region, that'd be better |
| 17:19.54 | xperia | dzo: just testing you work on the htc kovsky device. it works quite well. for the minutes linux run now on the kovsky device the power managment works quite well. before the patches the cpu was running in full speed and the phone was geting very was hot. now it runs and runs and it stay cool ! |
| 17:19.56 | cr2 | i don't really know how much ram is needed for MDP, ADSP and such |
| 17:20.39 | cr2 | android uses pmem_* |
| 17:20.53 | cr2 | and there are some internal limits |
| 17:21.05 | cr2 | gpu0 must be in the SMI, says dzo |
| 17:21.25 | cr2 | closed source shit. if you ask me ;) |
| 17:21.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | so, someone said android crashes with two banks of ram. true? any idea why? |
| 17:22.17 | xperia | dzo: need to talk with you about microp-klt.c i think i have a patch for your driver so it can register error free. i am working also on microp-klt.c and have succefully added a new platform for the driver. |
| 17:22.50 | CarlRhod | Oh what the hell? cr2: riot@ubuntu:~/blackstone-dev/kernel$ make zImage ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- |
| 17:22.50 | CarlRhod | make: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not found |
| 17:23.06 | CarlRhod | That didn't happen earlier. ._- |
| 17:23.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | have you added the toolchain to path? |
| 17:23.31 | CarlRhod | export PATH=~blackstone-dev/arm-2008q1/bin:$PATH |
| 17:23.40 | CarlRhod | Following the wiki, second time. |
| 17:23.53 | xperia | cr2: we realy should concentrate on a linux gui and work only with this. dont understand why we all tal about android |
| 17:23.56 | CarlRhod | Either I'm really stupid, or I'm really stupid. Lol. |
| 17:24.22 | CarlRhod | Now it's shooting make error 127 and 2 at me. |
| 17:24.41 | xperia | do we have a full working uptodate gpe rootfs that can be used for working and testing ? |
| 17:25.16 | CarlRhod | Oh I forgot the "/" at PATH=~, Alex[sp3dev] . |
| 17:25.23 | CarlRhod | My bad. |
| 17:25.40 | CarlRhod | There we go. |
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| 17:29.31 | CarlRhod | Alex[sp3dev], cr2: Where is this ".config" file I need to edit? Still getting Error 1 and Error 2 from make, same as another guy. You told him to fix this: CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION=5200 CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION_WINCE=y |
| 17:30.10 | xperia | remove .config from the root of the tree and compile it new |
| 17:30.28 | CarlRhod | And how would I go about doing that, xperia? |
| 17:31.16 | xperia | open the console. ls -a list all files in the folder. rm .config remove it |
| 17:31.35 | xperia | then compile it once again |
| 17:32.45 | CarlRhod | Still giving me same errors. |
| 17:33.40 | xperia | the delete it once again and veryfie that in the file arch/arm/config/ your config file the option CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION_WINCE=y is set |
| 17:34.00 | cr2 | xperia: blac100 does not have a efconfig |
| 17:34.07 | cr2 | a working defconfig |
| 17:34.15 | cr2 | where is dcordes-kais |
| 17:34.51 | xperia | in this case this is bad for CarlRhod as this project isnt maintende realy |
| 17:35.03 | cr2 | CarlRhod: take the raph defconfig and change raph to blackstone in menuconfig |
| 17:35.29 | CarlRhod | cr2: Again, how would I go about doing so? :x |
| 17:36.04 | cr2 | ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- make htcraphael_defconfig |
| 17:36.11 | cr2 | ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- make menuconfig |
| 17:36.36 | cr2 | go to the menues, and change the device to blackstone |
| 17:36.43 | cr2 | ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- make |
| 17:37.32 | CarlRhod | That freaked me out. cr2: General Setp? |
| 17:37.38 | CarlRhod | Or kernel features? |
| 17:37.59 | phh | system setup |
| 17:38.20 | CarlRhod | Only "System" there is "System TypE2. |
| 17:38.20 | cr2 | system type |
| 17:38.25 | CarlRhod | System Type* |
| 17:38.34 | phh | yeah that one. |
| 17:39.00 | xperia | CarlRhod: try this here it should also works ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- make htckovsky_defconfig cr2: do you have any information why i cant see colours in fbcon. for some strange reason i have only grey colours but no colours ? |
| 17:39.02 | CarlRhod | Ok, I * it. Should I un* the two raphs and Diams? |
| 17:39.39 | cr2 | CarlRhod: yes |
| 17:40.09 | cr2 | xperia: alias ls='ls --color' ? |
| 17:40.28 | CarlRhod | cr2: Ok thanks, God. ;) Should I exit, or Save an Alternate Config. File? |
| 17:40.42 | cr2 | CarlRhod: exit |
| 17:40.58 | mdrobnak | has memtester running at 200MB. We'll see if all is well shortly. |
| 17:41.28 | xperia | the kovsky build is based on the raphael build but has some extended features for the keyboard and so on. from my feeling the kovsky build could work better as is a newer hardware then raphael |
| 17:43.34 | mdrobnak | cr2_: Still getting that rpcrouter task 13 stuck, but otherwise seems to be doing fine. |
| 17:44.31 | cr2 | rpcrouter does kmalloc |
| 17:44.32 | c4software | hmmm if the correct branch ( git checkout -b htc-msm-2.6.25 origin/htc-msm-2.6.25) ? |
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| 17:45.01 | c4software | for build an kernel on Diam100 |
| 17:45.20 | CarlRhod | This is one hell of a long make, hah... |
| 17:45.26 | mdrobnak | be back in a few, then have to run for the rest of the day :-/ |
| 17:45.43 | alexander__ | sorry guys, got a timeout here. have i missed anything important after the message about qt/x11? |
| 17:46.41 | dcordes-kais | c4software no. you want the 2.6.27 |
| 17:46.59 | cr2 | dcordes-kais: patch time ? |
| 17:47.08 | c4software | damn., i will switchto this one so |
| 17:48.02 | c4software | hmm its strange |
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| 17:49.21 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: which qt/x11 message ? |
| 17:50.23 | CarlRhod | cr2: Alright, got my very own zImage. Should I unzip android_cupcake_2009-03-10.zip into "tmp" on SD-card, then c>p zimage to boot? Now that this is done, how would I get the fbaddr again? :) |
| 17:50.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, when i said that the only alternatives to android are qt/x11 and qtopia |
| 17:50.54 | phh | Alex[sp3dev]: what about E17 (with X11 or directfb), or |
| 17:50.57 | phh | hum the gnome think |
| 17:51.00 | phh | maemo i think it is |
| 17:51.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, maemo is a good idea |
| 17:52.08 | phh | or maybe a XUL Window Manager with fennec ? |
| 17:52.23 | cr2 | qt/x11 does not have any phone support |
| 17:53.02 | cr2 | BabelO has written some qtopia patches for blueangel |
| 17:53.08 | xperia | gpe is a full linux distro with phone support. dont we have a gpe rootfs ? |
| 17:53.48 | xperia | i prefer gpe over all as nearly all linux programm can be installed and runned in gpe |
| 17:54.05 | phh | porting any linux distro to MSM won't be an easy task as there are many weird userland <-> kernel land protocol |
| 17:54.25 | cr2 | phh: you mean phone distro |
| 17:54.31 | CarlRhod | cr2: Just create the startup.exe in "boot" under "tmp", along with default, haret, zimage etc? with print "FB=0x%x" VRAM, right? |
| 17:54.31 | phh | yes |
| 17:54.54 | phh | cr2: well there is even no standard sound thing ... |
| 17:54.55 | cr2 | CarlRhod: yes |
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| 17:55.31 | CarlRhod | Alright, soft-resetting and then starting HaRET. Fingers crossed for this Rhodium here. |
| 17:55.33 | cr2 | phh: codeaurora :) |
| 17:55.58 | xperia | it isnt really hard. open ebeded and angstrom have autobuilder for differnt rootfs guis like gpe. just select qemu arm as a platform and you will get the newest rootfs |
| 17:56.07 | cr2 | CarlRhod: you only need startup.txt and haret. |
| 17:56.15 | phh | cr2: hum, what's is that ? |
| 17:56.24 | cr2 | booting your zimage does not make much sense |
| 17:56.48 | CarlRhod | Well, might as well have it in the same dir., no? Just change default.exe to startup.exe in HaRET |
| 17:56.52 | CarlRhod | If I'm not mistaken? |
| 17:56.59 | cr2 | phh: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=summary |
| 17:57.34 | cr2 | c |
| 17:57.43 | cr2 | CarlRhod: startup.txt |
| 17:57.48 | dwaradzyn | cr2: could you send me haretconsole log from yesterdays session (for educational purposes :) |
| 17:58.12 | CarlRhod | err yeahi meant txt lol |
| 17:58.38 | CarlRhod | Wait, wtf... I accidentally hit run with default.exe and haret actually didn't crash... |
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| 17:59.18 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: yes. but mmutracing the sound area+dex cmd is a more interesting idea |
| 17:59.46 | c4software | dcordes-kais: and i have to use what defconfig ? this one ? (htcdiamond_android_defconfig) |
| 18:00.10 | CarlRhod | Or is this supposed to happen, cr2 ? Froze again at "console- handover". lol. |
| 18:00.24 | CarlRhod | Ah, nevermind. Reset and startup.txt this time. :p |
| 18:00.40 | CarlRhod | At least HaRET actually boots for once... |
| 18:01.14 | cr2 | 76 #define HTC_FB_PHYS 0x16800000 /* physical page for our fb */ |
| 18:01.50 | cr2 | 82 #define HTC_FB_OFF 0x0006a000 |
| 18:02.35 | dwaradzyn | cr2: we can continue what we have started yesterday. i think this is fastest way to progress |
| 18:04.40 | CarlRhod | cr2: Ima have to annoy you, yet again; startup.txt of mine looks like this "set mtype 2030" then "print "FB=0x%x" VRAM". Yet when I type startup.txt and hit run in HaRET, nothing happens. |
| 18:06.04 | xperia | cr2: "alias ls='ls --color'" dont give me anything. could it be possible that i dindt write the command right ? |
| 18:06.32 | cr2 | CarlRhod: create an empty earlyharetlog.txt file |
| 18:06.43 | cr2 | CarlRhod: and then boot zimage |
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| 18:12.37 | cr2 | xperia: try 'ls -color' |
| 18:13.30 | xperia | it is really stupid that i dont have colours in my fb console. in the dmesg i have this here however |
| 18:13.32 | xperia | msmfb_probe() installing 480 x 800 panel |
| 18:13.34 | xperia | Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 60x50 |
| 18:13.35 | xperia | p.s what do you think about my dmesg http://pastebin.com/m77dcdc64? |
| 18:14.48 | mdrobnak | cr2: Test still going, but it's gotten through quite a few patterns with no issues aside from the rpcrouter stuff. So, my feeling is this: Memory layout is OK for text console. The question is, do any changes need to be made to keep the amount of memory we have (214MB) and have a working Framebuffer and Sound? |
| 18:16.07 | cr2 | mdrobnak: where ? |
| 18:16.22 | mdrobnak | cr2: On Raph. |
| 18:16.40 | CarlRhod | Back. |
| 18:17.10 | CarlRhod | cr2: Done. Should this create a logfile? |
| 18:17.14 | cr2 | xperia: [BATT] e01fc140: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 v= 0 c= 0 |
| 18:17.23 | cr2 | xperia: your battery does not work |
| 18:17.35 | cr2 | CarlRhod: haretlog.txt |
| 18:18.03 | mdrobnak | cr2: I guess what I mean is...can we make any simple changes that would fix our issues. I guess the answer to that is it depends on what's causing the issue, and how easy is it to figure out what it's doing. Then the question is, is it easier to modify the bad program instead of the kernel (because it seems the kernel is doing the right thing). |
| 18:18.05 | xperia | strange but it worked previously ! |
| 18:18.45 | mdrobnak | So, anyone have any suggestions for something other then Android to use? |
| 18:18.46 | CarlRhod | CR2 has the answers to everything... yet why doesn't Android work 100% on anything? =p Not kissing any ass, as there's no point, yet I have no questions left unanswered yet, haha. |
| 18:18.57 | mdrobnak | lol |
| 18:19.09 | xperia | yes gpe ! |
| 18:19.14 | mdrobnak | What about the OpenMoko stuff? |
| 18:19.17 | Alex[sp3dev] | well, for development gpe is perfect |
| 18:19.28 | phh | mdrobnak: what about qt embedded ? |
| 18:19.33 | CarlRhod | cr2: You want to see the haretlog.txt? |
| 18:19.51 | mdrobnak | phh: I meant a 'full environment' |
| 18:20.19 | phh | it isn't ? I thought it was |
| 18:20.41 | CarlRhod | cr2: FBADDR: FB=0x15100780 |
| 18:21.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | after we fix basic stuff (like bt, wifi, suspend, keyboard/joypad, gsm) - we can think of swithching to openmoko or qtopia. but we should use plain console or gpe now) |
| 18:21.02 | CarlRhod | Same as topaz. |
| 18:21.05 | c4software | anyone with an Diam100 and sharp panel here ? |
| 18:21.07 | cr2 | CarlRhod: yes. |
| 18:21.22 | cr2 | CarlRhod: you need to edit the htc_fb_console.c |
| 18:21.27 | cr2 | and recompile the kernel |
| 18:21.38 | CarlRhod | Where is that .c file located at? |
| 18:21.52 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: BT is the main problem. |
| 18:21.53 | CarlRhod | arch/arm/? |
| 18:22.04 | cr2 | arch/arm/mach-msm |
| 18:22.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | what's wrong with bt? is it connected via uart? sorry, i'm new to msm stuff) |
| 18:23.28 | CarlRhod | What am I looking for, cr2 ? FBADDR? |
| 18:23.36 | CarlRhod | to change from Blackstones to Rhodiums? |
| 18:25.02 | cr2 | [20:01] <cr2> 76 #define HTC_FB_PHYS 0x16800000 /* physical page for our fb */ |
| 18:25.04 | cr2 | [20:01] <cr2> 82 #define HTC_FB_OFF 0x0006a000 |
| 18:25.11 | cr2 | change these to |
| 18:25.27 | cr2 | #define HTC_FB_PHYS 0x15100000 |
| 18:25.40 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.43 | cr2 | and recompile |
| 18:26.11 | xperia | CarlRhod: Rhodium is missing linux developer for doing hard research on the hardware. you will wasting a lot of time by porting linux to rhodium as rhodium dont even has a wiki page. |
| 18:26.44 | mdrobnak | Ok guys. Off to my aunt's house to fix her computer problems. Fun stuff. See ya's later. |
| 18:26.58 | xperia | by mdrobnak |
| 18:27.15 | cr2 | CarlRhod: and you need to add the mem=80M to the cmdline in haret (or a smaller value) |
| 18:27.41 | CarlRhod | in default.txt? |
| 18:27.45 | cr2 | yes |
| 18:27.51 | CarlRhod | Will do. |
| 18:28.16 | CarlRhod | xperia: 100% same hw as blackstone iirc, except HW buttons/kb, and lcd panel. |
| 18:28.40 | CarlRhod | Audio as well, but since it doesn't work in any port, it doesn't matter for this port. |
| 18:29.03 | CarlRhod | Besides, this is fun. :) |
| 18:29.34 | cr2 | CarlRhod: audio works in raph/diam |
| 18:29.51 | CarlRhod | If I will be able to just get this booting into Android itself, cr2 will get a bunch of new fans. :p |
| 18:29.53 | cr2 | even .mp3 playing. |
| 18:30.08 | cr2 | lol |
| 18:30.08 | CarlRhod | Oh... well, not on blac100, right? |
| 18:30.17 | xperia | kovsky has also 100% same hardware as raphael but the drivers are full new with new stuff. same hardware dont mean same drivers. btw. rhodium has keyboard if i am not wrong blackstone dont have it right ? |
| 18:30.18 | cr2 | not yet. |
| 18:31.12 | CarlRhod | Well, you obviously know more than me, xperia, but I don't care that much if I'm wasting time as I like doing this. At least there IS a person working on it now, hah. :p |
| 18:37.47 | c4software | how can i save data from the telnet of haret into file on my mobile ? |
| 18:38.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | type "log myfile" |
| 18:38.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | when done, type "unlog" |
| 18:38.29 | c4software | thanks |
| 18:38.34 | c4software | :) |
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| 18:41.11 | CarlRhod | cr2: Even after using the new zImage, it still freezes at "console handover: boot [htc_fb-1] -> real [tty0] |
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| 18:43.37 | CarlRhod | Same as before, obviously. |
| 18:44.40 | cr2 | CarlRhod: can you dump the ramconsole after the device freezes ? |
| 18:45.36 | cr2 | xperia: there is a topaz wiki page |
| 18:46.39 | cr2 | CarlRhod: the gpios and vregs need to be researched, and added to wiki. |
| 18:46.55 | Alex[sp3dev] | cr2: what is required to make the sound work on kovsky? what kind of info should i try to find out? |
| 18:47.53 | CarlRhod | cr2: How do I do that? Just type down the whole console msg it displays now? hah |
| 18:48.22 | cr2 | CarlRhod: can you connect to haret after crash ? |
| 18:49.13 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: look at htc_hw.c, there is some code for setting the audio_path. i think the problem is somewhere there. |
| 18:49.18 | CarlRhod | I think I need to get a psychological evaulation; how would I do that? -._ |
| 18:49.46 | cr2 | CarlRhod: do you have wifi ? |
| 18:49.47 | CarlRhod | I think I might be retarded. |
| 18:49.49 | CarlRhod | Yeah |
| 18:49.59 | cr2 | do you know the rhod100 ip ? |
| 18:50.21 | CarlRhod | Oh... uh no. Should I reset, connect to my wifi, and then launch haret, find the IP and...? |
| 18:51.04 | cr2 | yes |
| 18:51.41 | CarlRhod | Alright, one second. |
| 18:52.37 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/vogue-hw.c;h=d27b050445b8e440036102fa406a9d93055fe19d;hb=76caa57abe651926dee9d3080f44c7507028bcb1 |
| 18:52.56 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: this file is also helpful |
| 18:53.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | cr2: thanks |
| 18:53.13 | CarlRhod | 10.0.2.6. After booting haret and it stops at console handover, then what? |
| 18:53.56 | CarlRhod | telnet 10.0.2.6? |
| 18:53.56 | cr2 | for a more general set_audio_parameters() |
| 18:54.26 | cr2 | CarlRhod: telnet 10.0.2.6 9999 |
| 18:54.37 | cr2 | after you started haret, and pressed 'listen' |
| 18:54.54 | CarlRhod | alright |
| 18:55.16 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: it's some bizarre alsa replacement. partly closed source in android. |
| 18:56.11 | cr2 | looks like dsp firmware being pushed here and there ;) |
| 18:57.49 | townkat | i read here that windows setting that are not yet controlled by linux remain active after loading linux (plug usb before loading linux to charge under linux), and as i understood dac works in blackstone but the amplifier does not turn on, what if we load haret while playing some sound, would it work ? at least we would know if it is the amplifier seting problem |
| 18:57.54 | CarlRhod | Ok done. Just hit RUN or type in some command? |
| 18:59.18 | CarlRhod | "log <filename>", then bootlinux or rambootlinux? I'm assuming thats whats needed? |
| 18:59.22 | cr2 | townkat: it's a good idea |
| 18:59.24 | CarlRhod | Then "unlog" when done? |
| 18:59.38 | xperia | cr2: ls --colour |
| 18:59.40 | xperia | ls: unrecognized option `--colour' |
| 18:59.42 | xperia | BusyBox v1.11.3 (2008-11-27 22:49:08 CET) multi-call binary |
| 18:59.43 | xperia | Usage: ls [-1AacCdeFilnpLRrSsTtuvwxXhk] [filenames...] |
| 19:00.00 | cr2 | CarlRhod: pd 0xe0000 0x200 |
| 19:00.24 | cr2 | xperia: then your busybox does not support color ls |
| 19:00.40 | cr2 | how do you expect to see color ? |
| 19:01.33 | CarlRhod | done. Now what? =p |
| 19:01.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, is there any android rootfs with working ril for msm without the need for initrd? |
| 19:01.44 | CarlRhod | cr2, sorry for being a hassle. At least I might be able to give you some infos. <.< |
| 19:02.52 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: yes, it's written by dzo |
| 19:03.32 | cr2 | CarlRhod: what is there ? |
| 19:03.57 | CarlRhod | Uhh, I think I'll get banned for pasting that here... |
| 19:04.08 | CarlRhod | Considering its like 20 lines or so. |
| 19:04.10 | cr2 | pastebin or privatepaste |
| 19:04.18 | xperia | i have installed a game for fbcon called busted tetris. the game works also great but it is not displayed in colour. |
| 19:04.20 | xperia | it looks like that the fbcon driver does not support colours ! |
| 19:04.22 | xperia | http://happypenguin.org/show?bastet |
| 19:04.45 | xperia | do you have colours in the console ? |
| 19:05.02 | CarlRhod | 000e0000 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.03 | CarlRhod | 000e0010 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.03 | CarlRhod | 000e0020 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.04 | CarlRhod | 000e0030 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.05 | CarlRhod | 000e0040 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.07 | CarlRhod | 000e0050 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.07 | cr2 | have other problems |
| 19:05.09 | CarlRhod | 000e0060 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | xperia: wait, i'll try ls --color with ubuntu |
| 19:05.11 | CarlRhod | 000e0070 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.13 | CarlRhod | 000e0080 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
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| 19:05.15 | CarlRhod | 000e0090 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.17 | CarlRhod | 000e00a0 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.19 | CarlRhod | 000e00b0 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.21 | CarlRhod | 000e00c0 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.23 | CarlRhod | 000e00d0 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.25 | CarlRhod | 000e00e0 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
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| 19:05.27 | CarlRhod | 000e00f0 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.29 | CarlRhod | 000e0100 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.31 | CarlRhod | 000e0110 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.33 | CarlRhod | 000e0120 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.35 | CarlRhod | 000e0130 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.37 | CarlRhod | 000e0140 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.38 | cr2 | CarlRhod: ok, it's junk |
| 19:05.39 | CarlRhod | 000e0150 | ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff | ................ |
| 19:05.43 | dcordes | cr2, pong |
| 19:05.44 | cr2 | hehe |
| 19:05.54 | xperia | ubuntu ? alex do you have ubuntu running on kovsky ? |
| 19:05.55 | cr2 | dcordes: patch time :) |
| 19:06.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | xperia: yes |
| 19:06.07 | dcordes | ok I'm on the home terminal now |
| 19:06.15 | cr2 | dcordes: we need to commit something for blac100, and for raph et al |
| 19:06.15 | xperia | unbelieveble ! |
| 19:06.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | xperia: well, without gnome. openbox+lxde)0 |
| 19:06.40 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev], is that based on Xorg ? |
| 19:06.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 19:06.50 | dcordes | and that works? |
| 19:07.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes. if i don't use second memory bank |
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| 19:07.13 | dcordes | cr2, what needs changing? |
| 19:07.28 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev], can you upload the image with working Xorg somehwere? |
| 19:07.32 | CarlRiot | Ouch. :p Did you type anything, cr2 ? Yeah, junk. Now what? *cries in a little corner* |
| 19:07.35 | cr2 | dcordes: i'll make a diff |
| 19:07.44 | dcordes | cr2, ok |
| 19:07.47 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: zImage? |
| 19:07.55 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: well. probably enough for today :) |
| 19:07.57 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev], no man. your root filesystem |
| 19:08.11 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah. it's the zubuntu, i have not even modified it) |
| 19:08.30 | CarlRhodium | Hmm, alright. |
| 19:09.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | http://www.zaurus.org.uk/cortez/ubuntu/download/zubuntu/zubuntu-desktop-rc1.tar.gz |
| 19:09.08 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev], what about the second memory bank.. you cannot boot with it enabled on kovsky? |
| 19:09.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | when i enable it, the xorg doesnt work. well, it fills part of the screen and hangs (and only sysrq+b reboots the phone then) |
| 19:10.16 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: do you have something in ramconsole ? |
| 19:10.41 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev], that's very interesting |
| 19:10.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | have not looked at it yet, will try tomorrow or some day later |
| 19:11.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, i confirm: no color in fb console |
| 19:11.22 | xperia | hmmm never heared about zaurus ubuntu http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/ |
| 19:11.23 | xperia | allex would be great if you could test "ls -colour" |
| 19:11.46 | xperia | okay thanks. thats what i assumed. we have some big problem with the colours ! |
| 19:11.54 | kvaster_ | cr2: b.t.w have you managed to determine something regarding blac's sound with dwaradzyn yesterday ? |
| 19:12.09 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev], do you have the git diff for disabling second memory bank? |
| 19:12.12 | xperia | the frame buffer colours works ! but the fbcon colours dont works ! |
| 19:12.42 | cr2 | kvaster_: yes, but the sound is still not working |
| 19:12.43 | kvaster_ | cr2: seems that adsp code is working properly at my place, and sound is lost somewhere further |
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| 19:13.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: no, i don't really disable it, i just set mem=76M to limit the ram size |
| 19:13.12 | cr2 | probably we need more audio_path settings. |
| 19:15.17 | xperia | alex thanks for the help ! |
| 19:15.29 | cr2 | dcordes: https://privatepaste.com/fdL0PJyIfm |
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| 19:16.24 | cr2 | dcordes: enables playing .mp3 through /dev/msm_mp3 |
| 19:16.34 | dwaradzyn | i tried now booting with playing sound to test the amplifier theory - still silence in linux, but it hanged when running playwav2 tada.wav - there is something in it |
| 19:16.59 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: we need more audiopath options |
| 19:17.19 | CarlRhodium | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2844746&postcount=637 that's basically where the Rhod hangs, except it displays info for Blackstone and not Raphael. cr2 |
| 19:17.28 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: it's not really the amplifier, but the bunch of DSP settings. |
| 19:17.43 | CarlRhodium | If I can just find out how others got past it, I might be able to fix it on the Rhod. |
| 19:17.52 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: i think that the ramconsole is disabled in raph defconfig |
| 19:17.52 | dcordes | cr2, where are those settings located? |
| 19:18.28 | cr2 | dcordes: the kaiser has a lot of such settings in the vogue branch. |
| 19:18.41 | cr2 | dcordes: we need to talk to dzo about it |
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| 19:19.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok guys.. where is keyboard layout defined for kovsky and raph in kernel driver? maybe i'm too inattentive today, but can't find it |
| 19:20.29 | CarlRhodium | Where would that defconfig reside, cr2 ? |
| 19:20.42 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: you have .config |
| 19:20.43 | CarlRhodium | Or rather, how would I fix that? |
| 19:20.45 | tmzt | might be the microp-keypad driver |
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| 19:21.16 | cr2 | dzo: ping |
| 19:21.17 | xperia | alex it is in the rootfs think /etc/keymap |
| 19:21.40 | xperia | for angstrom at least it is ! |
| 19:21.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | that can't be so.. |
| 19:21.56 | CarlRhodium | cr2: blackstone-dev/kernel/.config, right? |
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| 19:22.12 | Alex[sp3dev] | some driver got to send keycodes via input_ layer) |
| 19:22.18 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev], keymap http://aiv-dev.info/opensource/xperiax1/x1.keymap and driver is at drivers/input/keyboard/microp-keypad.c |
| 19:22.23 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: yes |
| 19:22.29 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: check for ramconsole |
| 19:23.00 | cr2 | CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE=y |
| 19:23.02 | cr2 | CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_ENABLE_VERBOSE=y |
| 19:23.03 | CarlRhodium | Find -> ramconsole. 0 finds. |
| 19:23.03 | cr2 | hmm |
| 19:23.09 | Alex[sp3dev] | dcordes: thanks. dunno why i never looked in input, was looking into microp-ksc in i2c.. |
| 19:23.10 | CarlRhodium | Should I add those manually, then? |
| 19:23.29 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: should be in the defconfig |
| 19:23.45 | CarlRhodium | CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST="/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config" |
| 19:23.49 | xperia | alex yeah exactly. i am asking me what for a keycode could be used for screeen rotation. the very stupid thing in linux is that we dont have message loops for events. |
| 19:23.51 | CarlRhodium | Only thing with defconfig. |
| 19:24.12 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: strange |
| 19:24.29 | dcordes | xperia, kovsky has a display rotation hardcoded in kernel. which is not really a good thing |
| 19:24.30 | CarlRhodium | How so? |
| 19:26.08 | xperia | yeah i know ! it is a dirty but fast hack ! in winmo a event is used for this that inform the needed programms about the rotation event. in linux we dont have this ! |
| 19:26.10 | xperia | it sucks heavy as nearly every gui use his own information system opie, gpe, qt all are different ! |
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| 19:27.56 | ali1234 | xperia: well, xrandr supports rotation... |
| 19:28.10 | cr2 | xperia: it's a switch |
| 19:28.55 | dcordes | cr2, what's the proper way to solve this? |
| 19:29.13 | xperia | xrandr is based on xorg. guis like opie dont use xorg. adnroid dont use it too i think. |
| 19:29.22 | dcordes | cr2, what's the commit message? |
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| 19:29.32 | Newbie16 | Hi |
| 19:29.41 | dcordes | Newbie16, hello |
| 19:29.43 | ali1234 | xperia: android has it's own rotation support |
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| 19:29.56 | cr2 | dcordes: [21:16] <cr2> dcordes: enables playing .mp3 through /dev/msm_mp3 |
| 19:30.04 | ali1234 | if opie chooses not to use standard tools like xorg, then opie has to implement it too |
| 19:30.06 | Newbie16 | how do i correct vregs? i'm running haret traces but i'm not sure what to look for |
| 19:30.14 | dcordes | cr2, only on raph100 ? |
| 19:30.25 | cr2 | how is the "hardware" rotation done ? |
| 19:30.33 | dcordes | cr2, it's a gpio afaik |
| 19:30.42 | cr2 | dcordes: on all 5200 amss |
| 19:31.52 | CarlRhodium | cr2: mmid_toshiba_init, that tell you anything? <.< lol |
| 19:32.10 | CarlRhodium | Probably same lcd as blac? |
| 19:32.25 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: you have epson |
| 19:32.35 | CarlRhodium | Weird. |
| 19:32.36 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: not toshiba. |
| 19:32.50 | cr2 | blac also has epson |
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| 19:33.19 | cr2 | dcordes: this gpio should produce a switch event |
| 19:33.48 | cr2 | it was done this way already on zaurus and universal. |
| 19:34.03 | CarlRhodium | cr2: Well, another guy ran "pwf topazspl.bin 0x8c000000 0x80000" in his default.txt and did some thing with 0x00000000 and ended up with that toshiba message. :s |
| 19:34.20 | CarlRhodium | On a rhodium, I might add (irc logs) |
| 19:35.53 | dcordes | cr2, pushd |
| 19:36.35 | cr2 | dcordes: ok |
| 19:40.25 | xperia | ali1234: a lot of programms especially for mobile devices use keycodes as a interacting interface between the drivers and the programms. for me this is not good as this a disatvantage in linux becouse of the missing message ques that windows has implemented. i have to admit windows has a really good working event notifiaction system in compare to linux ! |
| 19:40.27 | xperia | http://www.winprog.org/tutorial/message_loop.html |
| 19:41.09 | ali1234 | i know all about the windows event loop |
| 19:41.16 | cr2 | xperia: use x11 |
| 19:41.26 | ali1234 | ^ exactly |
| 19:42.19 | ali1234 | i really hate when people cry that X is bloated, then implement all the bloat themselves because it is necessary. but their version is worse and more buggy. |
| 19:42.30 | cr2 | ali1234: if you spam the windows event loop, the windows will hang :) |
| 19:42.50 | ali1234 | sure |
| 19:43.11 | ali1234 | it's also completely insecure |
| 19:43.29 | xperia | my knoweledge about the programms that communicate events over keycodes is based on x11 gpe. |
| 19:43.29 | xperia | so x11 isnt really the soloution when the gui dont have it enblaed |
| 19:43.29 | cr2 | ali1234: i have actually used x11r3 before win3.1 |
| 19:43.35 | ali1234 | any program can snoop on any other's events |
| 19:43.39 | cr2 | ali1234: so was not impressed by windows. |
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| 19:46.40 | kvaster_ | hm ... windows/linux spam :) |
| 19:47.08 | kvaster_ | and I quit my previous job year ago and switched completely to linux (gentoo) and am very happy |
| 19:47.38 | ali1234 | i havn't used windows as general use for about 6 years |
| 19:47.58 | ali1234 | i still keep a cut down install in vbox for running apps that really really need it |
| 19:48.23 | xperia | i dont say windows is better thank linux. |
| 19:48.25 | xperia | i am saying like other experts that windows has the way better notification interface than linux. |
| 19:49.06 | cr2 | xperia: dos does not have notifications |
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| 19:49.14 | ali1234 | xperia: but only if you arbitrarily exclude X windows |
| 19:49.26 | cr2 | xperia: and if you have a gui, you should compare to x11 |
| 19:49.39 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: i would like to modify ramfs (http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/initrd-angstrom-2009-09-17). it is not initrd cpio.gz, what format is it? |
| 19:49.42 | kvaster_ | x11 is just a base system |
| 19:50.25 | cr2 | kvaster_: message queues can be used with xlib |
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| 19:50.32 | cr2 | you don't need any other toolkits |
| 19:50.33 | xperia | you all talk abou x windows but x windows is not linux. |
| 19:50.34 | xperia | linux should have this by default. as i know minix would correct exactly this problem |
| 19:51.17 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: blac100 patch ? |
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| 19:51.45 | LpBv | hi |
| 19:51.48 | dwaradzyn | cr2: tidy up not completed yet |
| 19:51.55 | xperia | btw. does anybody know how to fix the colour problem in fbcon ? this is a bug that need to be fixed ! |
| 19:52.27 | ali1234 | xperia: without x11 there is no gui rotation to notify about. linux has good interprocess communication, much better than windows does. but there is no point putting "gui reshaped" events into a system that only uses pipes and sockets and has no concept of what a gui even is |
| 19:54.28 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: can you make a picture of hanging console ? |
| 19:54.47 | CarlRhodium | Sure. Give me a few minutes to get my camera. :) |
| 19:55.00 | ali1234 | xperia: colour problem on FB is probably a timing issue ie the timings are ever so slightly off... |
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| 19:57.34 | dcordes | dwaradzyn, but it should be. maybe append the .cpio.gz |
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| 19:59.29 | xperia | ali1234 when drawing direct to the framebuffer the colours are okay. just the frambuffer console has problems |
| 20:00.32 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: at least linux has taken over and does something useful already :) |
| 20:00.39 | dcordes | brb |
| 20:01.37 | ali1234 | xperia: had an issue like that once, i think it was caused not setting up all the clocks properly |
| 20:01.48 | ali1234 | made the screen get a kind of green tint |
| 20:01.57 | ali1234 | but only when it was mostly black |
| 20:02.07 | CarlRhodium | getting pic off my slr now, cr2 . |
| 20:02.32 | xperia | hmm okay thanks for the info. have to study the fbcon driver a litlle more |
| 20:02.35 | ali1234 | xperia: try dumping the display from /dev/fb and looking at what you get on a different compuer |
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| 20:02.48 | ali1234 | i think fbgrab to do it? |
| 20:03.02 | ali1234 | fbgrab | nc ... |
| 20:03.31 | ellisway | hi all |
| 20:04.15 | xperia | ali1234: great thanks for the tips |
| 20:04.19 | cr2 | ellisway: already booted on rhod100 :) |
| 20:04.37 | cr2 | ellisway: but it hangs in the process. |
| 20:04.37 | ellisway | coo |
| 20:04.58 | ellisway | i`m just grabbing the toolchain from codesourcery |
| 20:05.44 | ellisway | only have a centos box to work from at the moment |
| 20:06.13 | ellisway | but i might put a xen or ovz kernel on and work inside a vps with somthing like slack |
| 20:07.06 | ellisway | still its a dual p2 2.6 xeon so should be resonable for building on |
| 20:07.22 | ellisway | p4 2.6 even |
| 20:07.46 | cr2 | ali1234: lol. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560629 |
| 20:08.06 | ellisway | might put a cp of the toolchain on the htc linux server though as grabbing from codesourcery is slow |
| 20:08.21 | ali1234 | cr2: yes. why lol? |
| 20:08.48 | cr2 | 64MB ram ? |
| 20:08.59 | ali1234 | wizard has 64mb too |
| 20:09.08 | cr2 | everybody complains about the second bank on raph. |
| 20:09.15 | ali1234 | everybody sucks |
| 20:09.20 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:09.46 | ali1234 | 128mb on wizard would make a huge difference |
| 20:09.51 | ali1234 | even so, i can run ubuntu-arm |
| 20:09.57 | ali1234 | doesn't get more challenging than that |
| 20:10.02 | cr2 | tornado does not have the touchscreen ? |
| 20:10.06 | ali1234 | nope |
| 20:10.11 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:11.01 | ellisway | i think i have access to a tornado |
| 20:11.23 | ellisway | goes through a draw of handsets |
| 20:11.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | xperia, are you here? |
| 20:11.53 | xperia | yes i am here alex |
| 20:12.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | have you tested the colors with htc framebuffer console enabled? i mean, i always disable it and have not tried with it |
| 20:13.03 | ali1234 | ellisway: if you have a draw full i'd expect you have a slightly newer omap850 device in there, and wing linux supports most of them now, in varying levels |
| 20:13.08 | ellisway | nope its a typhoon |
| 20:13.34 | ali1234 | typhoon eh? i think that's 850 or might be 730 |
| 20:13.47 | cr2 | typhoon is better |
| 20:13.56 | cr2 | it has wifi afair |
| 20:13.58 | ali1234 | it should work with not much work anyway |
| 20:14.10 | ali1234 | just the usual board/keymap stuff |
| 20:14.14 | ellisway | ali1234 i have access to 15+ htc handsets |
| 20:14.40 | cr2 | ali1234: the only acceptable omap850 device is artemis. |
| 20:14.48 | ali1234 | why? |
| 20:14.56 | cr2 | it has fm radio |
| 20:15.02 | ellisway | magician hiomalayas universals raph dream athena and athena 400 |
| 20:15.02 | ali1234 | lawl |
| 20:15.09 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:15.22 | ellisway | topaz |
| 20:15.30 | ellisway | typhoon |
| 20:15.47 | ellisway | cant remember what else of the top of my head |
| 20:15.53 | cr2 | ali1234: i use fm radio for TMC only |
| 20:16.01 | xperia | alex: i think i have this option also disbled till yet as the switch at boot hangs sometime ! could be maybe a solution. still fbcon alone is a console with colours. cant really understand why we have only grey colours. as i know in the frambuffer ther was a patch that changed bpp=16 to bpp=15 otherwise android had bad colours. i ask me if this bpp change could be responsible for the colour... |
| 20:16.02 | ali1234 | well, wizard has the same bluetooth as the artemis (and in fact the n800 which also has fm). isn't the fm radio usually hidden away in the BT chip? |
| 20:16.03 | xperia | ...problems |
| 20:16.31 | ali1234 | xperia: changing bpp would do it |
| 20:16.48 | ellisway | still prefer the universal and alternate between the uni and ath400 |
| 20:16.49 | dwaradzyn | ha! i just heard sound on blac100 under linux! :) |
| 20:16.53 | cr2 | ali1234: only in the newer ti chipsets |
| 20:16.55 | ellisway | as my main devices |
| 20:16.59 | CarlRhodium | cr2, do you have photoshop? If not, I'll have to reencode these .NEF files. I forgot to set my camera to JPG and not RAW. ._. |
| 20:17.19 | cr2 | ali1234: artemis has sil47xx |
| 20:17.20 | ali1234 | cr2: all three are brf6150 afaik |
| 20:17.24 | ellisway | also have 3 motorola handsets aswell a760 a780 and a910 |
| 20:17.29 | xperia | ali1234: really ! woow if this is the problem then the patch need to be reverted or extended as it only related for android ! |
| 20:17.37 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: isn't it some tiff variant ? |
| 20:17.41 | dwaradzyn | cr2: do_route_audio_rpc (0,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED); in playwav2.c did the trick for blac100 |
| 20:17.42 | CarlRhodium | Kinda. |
| 20:17.56 | xperia | need to test this bpp patch ! |
| 20:18.06 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: yeah, my bad, actually |
| 20:18.18 | dwaradzyn | cr2: should i try other possibilities or is not necessary now? |
| 20:18.25 | cr2 | ellisway: 780 with gps ? |
| 20:18.58 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: submit a patch to dcordes |
| 20:19.20 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: not necessary |
| 20:19.44 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: we need a full set of audio_paths though. for headset and BT too. |
| 20:19.54 | cr2 | dev=2 and dev=3 |
| 20:20.23 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: can you play .mp3 ? |
| 20:21.03 | dwaradzyn | cr2: one last thing: i'm using AudioPara with values from blac csv. i will test it works with old AudioPara before commit because it could break other devices |
| 20:21.23 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: yeah, the AudioPara does not belong to the kernel too. |
| 20:21.40 | kvaster_ | 2 dwaradzyn: sound working on blac100 ? |
| 20:21.52 | cr2 | kvaster_: yes. |
| 20:22.12 | kvaster_ | COOL! |
| 20:22.17 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:22.32 | ellisway | yes with but could not get it to pickup from the sats |
| 20:22.46 | ellisway | did talk with you about that ages ago |
| 20:22.58 | ellisway | tried replacing the battery |
| 20:22.58 | kvaster_ | ... no words ... it just cool and you all are cool |
| 20:22.58 | kvaster_ | :) |
| 20:23.04 | cr2 | ellisway: i can't even enable gps |
| 20:23.05 | ellisway | but didn`t make any difference |
| 20:23.17 | cr2 | yes, i remember it. |
| 20:23.36 | cr2 | xperia: what about testing the sound ? |
| 20:23.37 | CarlRhodium | cr2: http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3463/dsc0004f.jpg |
| 20:23.39 | dwaradzyn | cr2: cannot open mp3 output device: no such device |
| 20:23.49 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: use latest git |
| 20:24.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | cr2: what is needed to test? a modified playwav2> |
| 20:24.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | ? |
| 20:24.10 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: here |
| 20:24.13 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.15 | cr2 | + QDSP_MODULE(AUDPLAY0TASK), |
| 20:24.29 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: do you have the source ? |
| 20:24.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes |
| 20:24.43 | ellisway | might be able to send ya the 780 i have if you fancy having a play to see if you can get the gps working |
| 20:24.50 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: it does not support selecting the device now, so you need to recompile. |
| 20:25.04 | xperia | cr2: dont have at the moment the right rootfs for testing. have uploaded the dmesg for checking if it register allright. |
| 20:25.06 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: uncomment dev=0 |
| 20:25.18 | CarlRhodium | That tell you anything, cr2? |
| 20:25.36 | cr2 | [21:25] <cr2> // do_route_audio_rpc(0,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED); |
| 20:26.04 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: post to xda-dev :) |
| 20:26.15 | CarlRhodium | will do. |
| 20:26.24 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: 0x59 is too much |
| 20:26.34 | cr2 | for bank 0 |
| 20:26.46 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: which cmdline did you use ? |
| 20:27.07 | CarlRhodium | Wait, wha? Where? Did not edit anything other than what you have told me to. |
| 20:27.25 | ellisway | i`m more intrested in getting rid of wince on the ath400 and the universal than the motorola handsets atm |
| 20:27.44 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: what is in your default.txt ? |
| 20:27.50 | dwaradzyn | cr2: QDSP_MODULE(AUDPLAY0TASK), should be only for blac and kovsky? or for all devices? |
| 20:27.52 | cr2 | ellisway: moto is linux already |
| 20:27.56 | ellisway | yeh |
| 20:28.06 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: it's already in git |
| 20:28.09 | ellisway | montavista |
| 20:28.15 | Alex[sp3dev] | cr2: sound works on kovsky!! |
| 20:28.24 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: it enables .mp3 playing through /dev/msm_mp3 |
| 20:28.30 | dwaradzyn | ok |
| 20:28.32 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: nice :) |
| 20:29.16 | xperia | our device is the best ! hip hip huuurrrrrraaaaa :-) |
| 20:29.32 | ellisway | htc-linux.org/arm-2009q1-203-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 if any1 wants a faster dl of the toolchain than from codesourcery |
| 20:29.37 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: so you can do playwav2 file.mp3 |
| 20:29.46 | CarlRhodium | PM'd you what my default is, cr2 |
| 20:29.52 | CarlRhodium | Anything wrong with it? O.o |
| 20:30.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, but what next? is any work on alsa planned or we should write a userspace library for audio playback? |
| 20:30.11 | dwaradzyn | cr2: need a sec to test |
| 20:31.23 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: does alsa support playing "accelerated" .mp3 ? i'm not a sound expert |
| 20:31.35 | Alex[sp3dev] | what are 'accelerated' mp3? |
| 20:31.52 | cr2 | Alex[sp3dev]: you push it to the dsp directly |
| 20:32.02 | Alex[sp3dev] | i dunno |
| 20:32.25 | cr2 | codeaurora has some alsa support for msm |
| 20:32.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok guys, see you later. got to gow now. it's 0.30 here.. and i wanna have some good sleep) |
| 20:38.45 | phh | cr2: do you know if android uses /dev/msm_mp3 ? |
| 20:40.04 | cr2 | don't know. IANAE |
| 20:40.14 | phh | k |
| 20:40.25 | phh | anyway keep up good work :) |
| 20:40.58 | phh | and about alsa, i don't know if it is meant to do so, but you can do passthrough with alsa |
| 20:41.27 | phh | i think there is also a special audio format possibility |
| 20:42.26 | cr2 | the equalizer and mixer is a nightmare on msm |
| 20:42.46 | cr2 | it's a whole project in itself to do it right. |
| 20:43.04 | xperia | ali1234: i think i have found now the patch what i have talked about. this patch was done to fix the android colour problems . i am asking me what would happen if revert this patch ! |
| 20:43.05 | xperia | if ( machine_is_htcraphael_cdma() || machine_is_htcraphael_cdma500() || machine_is_htcdiamond_cdma() || machine_is_htcblackstone() || machine_is_htckovsky() ) |
| 20:43.07 | xperia | /* 565 16BPP */ |
| 20:43.08 | xperia | dma2_cfg |= DMA_DSTC0G_6BITS | DMA_DSTC1B_5BITS | DMA_DSTC2R_5BITS; |
| 20:43.10 | xperia | else |
| 20:43.11 | xperia | /* 666 18BPP */ |
| 20:43.12 | kvaster_ | it seems that all the stuff on msm is a nightmare :) |
| 20:43.13 | xperia | dma2_cfg |= DMA_DSTC0G_6BITS | DMA_DSTC1B_6BITS | DMA_DSTC2R_6BITS; |
| 20:43.41 | phh | cr2: there is already something coded no ? I think i've read some hundreds of unbearable codeline about it. |
| 20:45.18 | dwaradzyn | cr2: yes it plays mp3 correctly |
| 20:45.24 | cr2 | phh: about what ? |
| 20:45.45 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: many things are still missing |
| 20:45.47 | kvaster_ | dwaradzyn,: diff/patch ? :) |
| 20:45.54 | dwaradzyn | cr2: one last thing: do we need to patch kernel in some way to make sound in android working? |
| 20:45.59 | cr2 | like volume control, mixer and so on. |
| 20:46.10 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: no. |
| 20:46.30 | patp | dwaradzyn: Well done! Tried calling in android? |
| 20:46.46 | cr2 | patp: it was a bug in playwav2 actually |
| 20:47.03 | c4software | on my diam sound seems woking great, i can heard people when i make a call. |
| 20:47.17 | cr2 | not a bug, just the code worked on raph, so i didn't push it further. |
| 20:47.21 | dwaradzyn | cr2: also old audiopara works well, so i think i'll ready for commit in a minute |
| 20:47.37 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: dcordes is gone |
| 20:47.39 | kvaster_ | ready for testing |
| 20:47.45 | cr2 | but still create the patch. |
| 20:48.08 | dwaradzyn | cr2: but sound did not work in android on blac... there must be something to be changed to make it work |
| 20:48.08 | patp | cr2: what do you mean? sound not yet working in Android for blac? |
| 20:48.59 | cr2 | patp: the sound works with playsound2 now. |
| 20:49.13 | c4software | haa okay, this patch its only for the blackstone, sorry :$ |
| 20:49.37 | cr2 | i guess for android dzo has created the /sys/class/vogue_hw/audio interface |
| 20:49.51 | cr2 | so with his android image the sound should work |
| 20:50.48 | townkat | what, we have sound on blac ? |
| 20:50.50 | townkat | yuhuu |
| 20:50.50 | townkat | :D |
| 20:51.00 | cr2 | c4software: it's blackstone defconfig and other fixes |
| 20:51.00 | c4software | on my diam audio is working on android. but maybe like you said |
| 20:51.34 | c4software | k |
| 20:51.54 | cr2 | c4software: yeah. but there is still some difference between raph/diam and blac |
| 20:52.27 | c4software | yep, and between this device himself. |
| 20:52.48 | cr2 | playwav2 was quick and dirty hack, so it's not surprising |
| 20:53.08 | patp | dwaradzyn: you will have a lot of fans on xda tomorrow! |
| 20:53.26 | kvaster_ | definitelly |
| 20:53.26 | kvaster_ | :) |
| 20:53.30 | kvaster_ | I'm first one :) |
| 20:54.01 | cr2 | i think that fixing gps needs only the CB server. |
| 20:54.21 | cr2 | BT. this is the last big problem now :) |
| 20:55.03 | kvaster_ | wifi ? |
| 20:55.40 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: here are changed for blac: http://pastebin.com/mf0cee6c the changes include (this may not be accurate): add ram_console, fix htcblackstone_defconfig, add htc_hw (battery + led), add lcd brightness control |
| 20:55.47 | cr2 | kvaster_: wifi is working |
| 20:55.58 | cr2 | kvaster_: and nand is actually working too |
| 20:56.19 | kvaster_ | oh... ok... I should retest then |
| 20:56.44 | cr2 | kvaster_: not in the "testing" sense |
| 20:57.09 | cr2 | just it is already known how to make them (wifi and nand) work. |
| 20:57.18 | kvaster_ | retest = it was not working for me, but it may not working for various reasons |
| 20:57.18 | c4software | Seriously wifi working on diam/raph ? |
| 20:57.26 | kvaster_ | ah.. ok |
| 20:57.29 | cr2 | BT is different, because it hangs for no good reason. |
| 20:58.06 | cr2 | c4software: you need to extract and load the eeprom from nand |
| 20:58.15 | cr2 | into the chip. |
| 20:58.51 | cr2 | +CONFIG_MSM_AMSS_VERSION_WINCE=y |
| 20:58.55 | c4software | oO |
| 20:58.58 | cr2 | i think we need to get rid of that |
| 20:59.28 | c4software | maybe to comlicated for me.. for the moment :S |
| 20:59.35 | cr2 | because AMSS 6120 / 6125 is coming for topa100 and rhod100 |
| 21:01.19 | phh | cr2: if nand is working, why isn't there any wifi enabled release yet ? |
| 21:01.34 | phh | it's the loading to wifi chip which gives problems ? |
| 21:01.46 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: the acclerometer is working too ? |
| 21:01.48 | c4software | i don't know if its possible, but with current kernel, we can made partiionning like G1 ? i mean ( One for Data, one for system, one for Sdcard) |
| 21:02.11 | c4software | we need Android drivers for accelerometers no ? |
| 21:02.29 | cr2 | phh: because the nand driver supports 0x2000 blocks only, you can't just pick some smaller (and unaligned) data |
| 21:03.19 | cr2 | c4software: not drivers, but some interface library |
| 21:03.45 | c4software | in sys/class/... ? |
| 21:04.28 | cr2 | c4software: we need to decide what to do with the wince partition. |
| 21:04.32 | dwaradzyn | cr2: how can i test acceleromoter? |
| 21:04.51 | cr2 | c4software: accelerometer is a /dev/input/event3 (i think) |
| 21:05.23 | c4software | yep on G1 is that input. |
| 21:05.32 | c4software | and on my diam its seems non detected |
| 21:05.38 | phh | cr2: seems not to be built in the usual builds (meaning from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/?C=M;O=D ) |
| 21:07.01 | phh | cr2: in board-htcdiamond.c line 164 it's commented out |
| 21:07.09 | c4software | cr2: okay so for the moment, partitionning its not possible ? just to know :). because fat32 partition its maybe more slower than ext2/3 partition ? |
| 21:07.26 | phh | c4software: you mean partitionning the "internal storage" or the NAND ? |
| 21:08.00 | phh | the NAND will give some headaches i think |
| 21:08.15 | phh | but for the "internal storage" (ie soldered SD) there is no problem about it I think |
| 21:08.16 | c4software | Internal Storage (Sorry). If we made partition on NAND we lose Windows Mobile no ? |
| 21:08.33 | phh | c4software: yes |
| 21:09.00 | phh | c4software: i'll give it a try someday, i think it should be done easily |
| 21:09.14 | c4software | okay, so before that we need to have working driver with initialize |
| 21:09.51 | phh | it seems everything is almost working :) |
| 21:09.59 | phh | (don't know about the camera actually) |
| 21:10.11 | c4software | with initializing ? |
| 21:10.24 | phh | oh. i guess no |
| 21:10.43 | c4software | on my diam some driver is missing, and the most important for the moment is the Power management (for Sharp Panel) |
| 21:10.55 | phh | c4software: but even if you partition the "Internal Storage", you can still have Windows Mobile |
| 21:11.06 | c4software | yes of course |
| 21:11.07 | c4software | :) |
| 21:11.29 | c4software | Internal Storage its like builin SD card :) |
| 21:11.40 | phh | yep. |
| 21:12.24 | c4software | BlueTooth, Wifi, and camera frequency its only driver missing i think ? ah and of course GPS. |
| 21:12.44 | c4software | And we will have the most beautifull Linux/Android device on the market :P |
| 21:14.11 | phh | cr2: for the wifi, i'm not sure to understand, will be dd if=/dev/mtdXXX of=/sdcard/wifi-firmware bs=8192 and then say to hotplug to read the firmware there will be enough ? |
| 21:15.04 | c4software | so we need to extract some file from the nand to get wifi working ? |
| 21:16.50 | cr2 | phh: yeah, something like that |
| 21:17.13 | cr2 | phh: you may simply extract it and put into /lib/firmare/* |
| 21:17.46 | cr2 | we may also analyze what is inside (-ethernet id), mayb e it's the same for all |
| 21:18.03 | c4software | cr2: and every people how want wifi working will do that ? |
| 21:18.22 | cr2 | i want BT :) |
| 21:18.23 | phh | c4software: well, just someone will have to make a proper initramfs |
| 21:18.25 | phh | that's no big deal |
| 21:18.28 | phh | cr2: i want too :D |
| 21:18.31 | phh | but i haven't your skill. |
| 21:18.47 | dwaradzyn | cr2: accelerometer not working, no such device |
| 21:18.56 | c4software | i wan't too but i don't want to make a mistake :) |
| 21:19.04 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: do you have an accelerometer ? |
| 21:19.09 | dwaradzyn | yes |
| 21:19.10 | kvaster_ | yes |
| 21:19.24 | cr2 | maybe a different chip ? |
| 21:19.40 | cr2 | do you have a gsensor.dll ? |
| 21:19.47 | phh | cr2: the accelerometer is commented in the board currently |
| 21:19.56 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:20.10 | phh | i guess there is a good reason for that |
| 21:20.18 | dwaradzyn | not sure. the bad thing is that android stopped booting after git pull |
| 21:20.28 | cr2 | phh: on raph it works |
| 21:20.35 | phh | hu ? |
| 21:20.52 | phh | there is some stuff i don't understand with I2C then. |
| 21:20.53 | cr2 | for the camera you need the rpc controlled clocks. or to sort out how to do that without rpc |
| 21:21.07 | cr2 | the cam gpios are known. VCM, power, reset |
| 21:21.11 | cr2 | all in the wiki |
| 21:21.22 | cr2 | the big cam is the same as on g1 |
| 21:21.32 | cr2 | the small cam, don't know :) |
| 21:21.51 | phh | cr2: isn't your board-XXXX.c modified? |
| 21:22.02 | c4software | its fun, we are realy close to full working |
| 21:22.03 | c4software | :) |
| 21:22.16 | phh | c4software: we? it's more likely cr2 :p |
| 21:22.20 | cr2 | phh: i have raph100 |
| 21:22.34 | phh | oh |
| 21:22.38 | phh | it isn't commented on that one ! |
| 21:23.02 | c4software | yes, its a we for the chan, i don't participate, don't have a skill :( |
| 21:23.04 | phh | while it is for diamonds |
| 21:23.10 | townkat | we have gsensor.dll on blac |
| 21:23.15 | phh | same for camera |
| 21:23.16 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: +CONFIG_LEDS_CPLD=y |
| 21:23.21 | c4software | just dump some informations |
| 21:23.30 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: we don't have CPLD |
| 21:23.40 | townkat | size 35576 bytes |
| 21:24.15 | cr2 | somebody copied the raph board file, when the accerometer was not enabled |
| 21:25.55 | phh | something like that yes |
| 21:26.20 | phh | would you mind comitting it on ? :D |
| 21:26.23 | dwaradzyn | cr2: that config was based on htcraphael_defconfig... |
| 21:26.33 | phh | dwaradzyn: it the board-xxxx.c |
| 21:26.39 | phh | +is |
| 21:28.05 | dwaradzyn | phh: which device in source is accelerometer? |
| 21:28.29 | phh | dwaradzyn: it's somewhere in i2c, but it's in board-htcdiamond.c that the device's declaration is missing |
| 21:28.52 | phh | it's drivers/i2c/chips/kionix-kxsd9.c |
| 21:30.19 | cr2 | dwaradzyn: htcraphael_defconfig is not perfect too |
| 21:31.07 | phh | http://phhusson.free.fr/patch-accel-diam.diff I guess, that will activate accelerator on diamond |
| 21:31.12 | phh | if someone minds building it |
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| 21:33.20 | Untouchab1e | Good evening all |
| 21:34.24 | Captnoord | re |
| 21:35.14 | dwaradzyn | phh: thats exactly what i'm trying now. it makes many error messages: error, status 43c8, error during data xfer (-5) |
| 21:35.33 | phh | ok, so that's not that easy |
| 21:35.41 | phh | and there is a good reason for it to be disactivated. |
| 21:35.42 | Captnoord | cr2 how's bt? |
| 21:35.43 | Captnoord | :P |
| 21:35.55 | cr2 | Captnoord: hehe |
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| 21:36.33 | cr2 | uart2dm is not used on other androed phonez |
| 21:36.35 | phh | dwaradzyn: maybe try to have a sensor-reading application as you start haret ? |
| 21:36.47 | Captnoord | cr2 is there anything I could do for bt |
| 21:36.48 | dwaradzyn | phh: ok |
| 21:36.55 | Captnoord | is it related to uart2? |
| 21:37.01 | cr2 | no |
| 21:37.10 | Captnoord | no for first question or second? |
| 21:37.20 | cr2 | second |
| 21:37.27 | cr2 | don't know for the first |
| 21:37.46 | Captnoord | what is the main problem with bt now... that we don't know how it works? |
| 21:37.54 | cr2 | the only chance is trying to clone the wince setup |
| 21:38.30 | cr2 | i changed the DMA channel from 8 to 9 |
| 21:38.31 | dwaradzyn | phh: the same erros |
| 21:38.38 | phh | dwaradzyn: :( |
| 21:38.39 | cr2 | because 8 is use by SD |
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| 21:39.34 | Captnoord | there are 4 bt dll's..... |
| 21:39.46 | thedicemaster | hm, latest build isn't doing so well. |
| 21:40.02 | cr2 | Captnoord: the spl may be easier |
| 21:40.13 | Captnoord | maybe |
| 21:40.20 | Captnoord | but just to make sure |
| 21:40.24 | phh | what's the thing with second ram bank ?!? |
| 21:40.26 | thedicemaster | seems to skip the commandline-bits when booting. |
| 21:40.32 | phh | some phones got some free extra memory ? |
| 21:40.46 | Captnoord | I wonder what BCSP Driver is |
| 21:41.12 | cr2 | Captnoord: some omap thing ? |
| 21:41.14 | Captnoord | http://www.mail-archive.com/bk-commits-head@vger.kernel.org/msg04119.html |
| 21:41.40 | cr2 | no |
| 21:41.41 | Captnoord | lemme google for the android repo |
| 21:42.09 | Captnoord | its the comminucation protocol |
| 21:42.11 | Captnoord | I think |
| 21:42.20 | cr2 | too high-level |
| 21:42.24 | phh | dwaradzyn: maybe try a i2c detect, maybe the accelerometer is on another device |
| 21:42.38 | Captnoord | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_stack |
| 21:42.40 | Captnoord | yea |
| 21:42.46 | Captnoord | next |
| 21:43.30 | Captnoord | spl it is |
| 21:44.17 | cr2 | phh: mmutrace |
| 21:44.28 | cr2 | and send me the gsensor.dll |
| 21:46.08 | c4software | on my diam, gsensor seems don't detected, no trace of it in /dev/input/* |
| 21:46.32 | phh | c4software: yeah that's what we are speaking about :) |
| 21:46.41 | c4software | ;) |
| 21:46.56 | c4software | just to add another voice. i don't know what is your device :) |
| 21:47.03 | phh | diam100 |
| 21:47.07 | c4software | Diam100 with hitachi panel ? |
| 21:47.13 | phh | it is activated on raphaels |
| 21:47.21 | phh | don't know which panel |
| 21:47.30 | phh | it is the one that was first supported for suspend |
| 21:48.19 | c4software | hitachi panel :) |
| 21:48.26 | c4software | mine have Sharp panel :) |
| 21:48.30 | kvaster_ | dwaradzyn: b.t.w. hw buttons (one which are emulated buttons) are not working when I compile kernel from sources. any suggestions ? |
| 21:48.59 | phh | kvaster_: anything in dmesg ? |
| 21:49.10 | kvaster_ | no |
| 21:49.22 | dwaradzyn | in menuconfig go to device drivers -> input -> touchscreen -> and enable msm-blackstone pad |
| 21:49.30 | kvaster_ | oh.ok. thanks. |
| 21:49.53 | thedicemaster | seems graphic glitches are getting worse. managed to boot into the latest build, both the curtain and apptray where "noise" untill i opened and closed them. |
| 21:50.50 | cr2 | thedicemaster: on which phone ? |
| 21:51.12 | thedicemaster | diamond (DIAM200 to be precise) |
| 21:51.22 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:51.43 | phh | cr2: ho by the way, big thanks for all what you've already done for linux on diamond, and even bigger thanks to continue your good work |
| 21:52.37 | thedicemaster | latest build also doesn't display anything at all untill actually inside android. |
| 21:53.11 | phh | cr2: http://phhusson.free.fr/GSensor.dll here is the dll |
| 21:53.24 | phh | about mmutrace, which address do i have to trace ? |
| 21:53.44 | phh | thedicemaster: activate console & 8x8 font |
| 21:54.40 | thedicemaster | can't. |
| 21:55.01 | thedicemaster | must be some setting in the zimage i guess, and i'm not compiling it myself. |
| 21:55.24 | phh | where are you getting your build ? |
| 21:55.36 | thedicemaster | http://glemsom.anapnea.net/android/ |
| 21:55.45 | phh | ..... |
| 21:55.52 | phh | this one is known not to work atm |
| 21:55.52 | cr2 | phh: the same kionix |
| 21:56.08 | thedicemaster | ok. |
| 21:56.23 | phh | thedicemaster: at least it is what is said in the forum |
| 21:56.28 | cr2 | i don't think it needs some power gpio |
| 21:56.37 | thedicemaster | well it does work, just incredibly unstable. |
| 21:56.52 | phh | thedicemaster: strange |
| 21:57.16 | thedicemaster | only actually displayed something for me once. |
| 21:57.59 | c4software | the lastest build on git seems non working, just got a black screen on boot. |
| 21:58.04 | thedicemaster | tried to see if i could get a data-connection with this one, but not going to do 50 reboots |
| 21:58.20 | phh | cr2: any possible explaination why it doesn't work (for dwaradzyn at least...) then ? |
| 21:58.21 | c4software | dzo work on panel support maye due do that |
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| 21:58.42 | phh | thedicemaster: for me 18 works great |
| 21:58.50 | cr2 | phh: don't know |
| 21:58.54 | phh | ok |
| 21:59.01 | thedicemaster | c4software wait, it either crashes and shuts down your phone, reboots your phone, or after some home-smashing it actually goes into android. |
| 21:59.21 | phh | cr2: it's a pure I2C device ? |
| 21:59.37 | c4software | so its not completely hang. i don't wait a while |
| 21:59.42 | phh | or there is some weird DMA IRQ or whatever strange things ? |
| 22:00.19 | phh | (meaning, is it debugable with standard I2C tools, or it needs some other things) |
| 22:00.35 | cr2 | i2c |
| 22:00.45 | thedicemaster | you can see if it didn't crash yet by rubbing the hardware keys. if they light up android might still boot. |
| 22:00.59 | phh | thedicemaster: sometimes event that doesn't respond |
| 22:01.04 | phh | even if it is still alive |
| 22:01.39 | thedicemaster | yea, but my experience is that if that doesn't do anything hardware keys aren't working. |
| 22:01.56 | thedicemaster | and if hardware keys aren't working you can do almost nothing in android. |
| 22:02.14 | phh | hum right i misexplained |
| 22:02.20 | phh | sometimes they are really slow to respond |
| 22:02.23 | phh | something like 10seconds |
| 22:03.01 | thedicemaster | never had slow to respond, except for changes while 1 key is already lit. |
| 22:03.23 | xperia | have to go ! bye to all. |
| 22:03.27 | phh | which seems logical knowing that it is kernel side... i don't get why i have such strange behaviours |
| 22:04.37 | thedicemaster | funny though. if i touch 2 keys at the same time they both light up. but if i press 1 key first(even 1/10th of a second before the 2nd) it only lights 1. |
| 22:05.03 | phh | thedicemaster: nop |
| 22:05.11 | phh | thedicemaster: it's a matter of "x" position |
| 22:05.25 | phh | if your finger is near the center, both will light |
| 22:05.32 | phh | if you're near the border, only one will |
| 22:07.45 | phh | if you want more details, look at board-htcraphael-navi.c line 265 for instance |
| 22:10.18 | thedicemaster | sorry, android sources are still a bit too high level for me. |
| 22:10.27 | phh | not android source but kernel source |
| 22:10.44 | thedicemaster | ok, still the above applies to that. |
| 22:10.55 | phh | :p |
| 22:11.41 | phh | http://pastebin.ca/1573343 |
| 22:11.43 | phh | here's the code |
| 22:11.44 | thedicemaster | my level of understanding source is slightly above hello worlds, my coding capabilities lie just below hello worlds. |
| 22:12.03 | phh | i think you can get this one |
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| 22:12.13 | thedicemaster | although that's much simpler than i expected it to be. |
| 22:12.20 | phh | :p |
| 22:12.30 | CarlRhodium | How do I get the wallpaper displayed in every Blackstone Android video? The grey with green android on it? |
| 22:12.40 | CarlRhodium | Would like to use it, hah... |
| 22:13.07 | phh | thedicemaster: understood or need some explainations ? |
| 22:14.04 | thedicemaster | interesting, seems to explain why i had trouble getting 2 buttons on the same side to lightup. |
| 22:14.16 | phh | and now you can do it easily ! :p |
| 22:14.51 | thedicemaster | and i now know how to fix which buttons light up on my phone. but i got no idea how to apply it. |
| 22:15.11 | phh | hu ? |
| 22:15.23 | phh | you need to fix something ? |
| 22:15.56 | thedicemaster | my phone has send/end on the top and home/back on the bottom. |
| 22:16.07 | phh | oO |
| 22:16.13 | phh | that is weird. |
| 22:16.22 | thedicemaster | the kernel doesn't know that so it just treats the home as send. |
| 22:16.32 | thedicemaster | but it also lights up the wrong key. |
| 22:16.55 | thedicemaster | pressing dial lights up home, and is treated as homr. |
| 22:16.58 | phh | :) |
| 22:17.13 | phh | thedicemaster: it's dedicated to DIAM200 and all DIAM200 ? |
| 22:17.32 | thedicemaster | don't know. |
| 22:17.41 | phh | ok |
| 22:17.45 | thedicemaster | not much people have a HTC victor. |
| 22:17.56 | phh | victor ? |
| 22:18.19 | thedicemaster | a diamond redesign to be sold under carrier names. |
| 22:18.22 | phh | ok |
| 22:18.49 | thedicemaster | i got it from T-mobile so it's called MDA compact IV. |
| 22:19.02 | c4software | it seems cool the victor |
| 22:19.07 | thedicemaster | but same phone from a different carrier would get a different name. |
| 22:19.10 | c4software | nice back |
| 22:19.18 | c4software | better than the diamond |
| 22:19.19 | phh | c4software: i agree :) |
| 22:19.25 | thedicemaster | victor is just the name HTC gave it. |
| 22:19.31 | c4software | more proffesionnal |
| 22:19.47 | thedicemaster | diamond is called diamond because it's a designer phone with the design based off a diamond. |
| 22:20.27 | phh | thedicemaster: do you hang there often ? |
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| 22:20.40 | phh | -t |
| 22:22.43 | thedicemaster | logged on here just over a week ago for the first time i think, logged of once for a duration of 10-15 minutes to mess with mirc and with an unstable internet connection. been online(or temporarily DCed) for the rest of the time. |
| 22:22.54 | phh | ok |
| 22:22.55 | thedicemaster | planning on staying logged in here for a while. |
| 22:23.11 | phh | when i'll have time i'll HL you for some tries |
| 22:23.55 | thedicemaster | it somehow feels good knowing people can still talk about stuff computer-related without me understanding a bit about it. |
| 22:24.02 | phh | but right now i have to go to sleep. |
| 22:24.10 | thedicemaster | usually i'm the one talking about stuff nobody understands. |
| 22:24.23 | phh | thedicemaster: eh don't worry, i don't get what cr2 does either ! :po |
| 22:24.49 | thedicemaster | but that's people who would ask me for an "any" key. |
| 22:24.49 | phh | but what you want is quiet easy and i want to help as much as i can. And i think i can fix your problem. |
| 22:25.06 | phh | thedicemaster: yeah i always wanted that key too. |
| 22:25.33 | phh | well actually i only know french people, and french is more precise about this "any key" stuff. |
| 22:26.08 | phh | any would be translated by "n'importe qu'elle", so if someone thinks that there is a key with 4 words, i'd kill him quickly. |
| 22:26.25 | thedicemaster | well, nobody comes up to me for an any key. but that's the level of computer-knowledge they have. |
| 22:26.28 | c4software | phh: French ? |
| 22:26.32 | phh | c4software: yup |
| 22:26.46 | c4software | On my dam Hardware input hang often too |
| 22:26.51 | c4software | phh: me too :P |
| 22:27.48 | phh | Angers ? That's far from me still. |
| 22:27.48 | thedicemaster | i'm dutch, and here it's "druk een toets om door te gaan" which translates litteraly to "press a key to continue" |
| 22:28.03 | phh | thedicemaster: *a* key ? |
| 22:28.08 | phh | hum no |
| 22:28.14 | phh | thedicemaster: what's the world for "a" ? |
| 22:28.15 | thedicemaster | a as in any-a |
| 22:28.20 | thedicemaster | not the letter. |
| 22:28.29 | phh | yeah i got it, but noobs may maybe not get it :p |
| 22:29.32 | thedicemaster | een=a or an, één=1(but often also written as een) |
| 22:29.43 | phh | ok |
| 22:29.55 | phh | so someones can actually try to find the 'een' key. |
| 22:30.09 | thedicemaster | most PC's have one of those. |
| 22:30.11 | thedicemaster | 1 |
| 22:30.19 | phh | oh |
| 22:31.38 | thedicemaster | but the way it's phrased, even people who now nothing about computers understand it means they can just pick a random button from their keyboard and press it. |
| 22:31.46 | thedicemaster | *know |
| 22:31.49 | phh | goto sleep. |
| 22:32.07 | thedicemaster | i should've done the same 2 hours ago. |
| 22:32.29 | thedicemaster | was planning to sleep early, but it's 0:32 already. |
| 22:33.14 | Untouchab1e | goes to sleep as well |
| 22:33.17 | Untouchab1e | night all |
| 22:35.29 | ellisway | kernel boots on topaz |
| 22:35.36 | tmzt | how is progress? |
| 22:36.45 | cr2 | ellisway: how much ? |
| 22:37.33 | cr2 | if you reach the mounting rootfs, then just use the initramfs of dcordes |
| 22:38.17 | tmzt | on raph100 I mean |
| 22:38.18 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: still here ? |
| 22:38.27 | CarlRhodium | cr2: Yeah. |
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| 22:38.55 | cr2 | tmzt: not much. but we have sound working on blac and xperia |
| 22:39.13 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: |
| 22:39.16 | cr2 | [23:58] <cr2> [23:32] <cr2> 23 #define MSM_LINUX_SIZE 0x5900000 /* 89mb */ |
| 22:39.18 | cr2 | [23:58] <cr2> change to 0x51 |
| 22:39.22 | ellisway | got a stack trace from swapper |
| 22:39.28 | cr2 | board-htcblackstone.h |
| 22:39.37 | ellisway | followed by a kernel panic trying to kill init |
| 22:39.42 | tmzt | how is that? are they easier? |
| 22:39.49 | cr2 | it's good :) |
| 22:39.49 | CarlRhodium | Alright, one second, cr2. |
| 22:40.14 | cr2 | ellisway: a screenshot ? |
| 22:40.14 | tmzt | what do you think is wrong with raph800/500? |
| 22:40.23 | tmzt | so it won't boot |
| 22:40.31 | ellisway | i knew you would ask |
| 22:40.36 | cr2 | tmzt: they were already working. just a different audio path |
| 22:40.38 | tmzt | trying to kill init is usually good |
| 22:40.44 | cr2 | LOL |
| 22:40.47 | tmzt | but they don't boot |
| 22:40.47 | ellisway | just looking taking a pic |
| 22:41.06 | cr2 | tmzt: 500 does not boot ? |
| 22:41.21 | tmzt | not with the last kernel I tried |
| 22:41.32 | tmzt | maybe with one bank and mem=78M |
| 22:41.47 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:41.55 | tmzt | tested on raph800? |
| 22:42.16 | cr2 | no such device since madCoder` |
| 22:42.48 | tmzt | so how do you know it's only audio path? |
| 22:42.53 | madCoder` | my raph800 doesn't work :[ |
| 22:42.54 | cr2 | tmzt: rhod/topa have 6120/6125 amss |
| 22:43.06 | cr2 | madCoder`: hehe. welcome back :) |
| 22:43.30 | madCoder` | :p |
| 22:43.31 | cr2 | tmzt: SND has a version like in 6210 |
| 22:43.41 | c4software | good night everyone |
| 22:43.42 | c4software | :) |
| 22:43.47 | tmzt | we can see of astain can check his |
| 22:43.51 | tmzt | raph800 |
| 22:43.52 | cr2 | madCoder`: BT is the last big roadblock |
| 22:44.01 | tmzt | since it has the same smem layout |
| 22:44.10 | tmzt | smi32 I think |
| 22:47.42 | CarlRhodium | cr2: redownloading the kernel and doing all the steps again. Fucked something up. This time, I'll make a backup, haha... |
| 22:47.55 | CarlRhodium | Thank God for IRC logs to get the steps. ;) |
| 22:51.50 | ellisway | htc-linux.org/topaz-boot-pic.jpg |
| 22:52.16 | cr2 | ellisway: you may dump the 0x16d, 0x16e and 0x16f megabytes. i'm wondering if the wince dmesg is there |
| 22:52.56 | cr2 | the PLL frequencies as ok |
| 22:53.01 | ellisway | 1 sec |
| 22:53.08 | c4software | And, of course, Thanks a lot tmzt and cr2 ;) |
| 22:53.52 | cr2 | searching for the adsp_cid |
| 22:53.56 | tmzt | for what? |
| 22:53.56 | cr2 | a hack ;) |
| 22:54.04 | ellisway | is that pic good enough or should i try for a better pic before i soft reset |
| 22:54.11 | cr2 | the rpc fifo is not there. |
| 22:54.20 | CarlRhodium | ellisway: You got further than me on my rhodium |
| 22:54.46 | c4software | for a lot of thing, i hope by my test and extract, i contribute to this project |
| 22:54.46 | c4software | :) |
| 22:54.47 | cr2 | ellisway: comment out the adsp_cid hack |
| 22:55.21 | cr2 | then the crash may go away |
| 22:56.09 | ellisway | k so comment out the cid hack then recompile and try again yes |
| 22:56.23 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: rebooted after changing the MSM_LINUX_SIZE ? |
| 22:56.40 | c4software | cr2, and when you want i am interested to dump information for the wifi on NAND |
| 22:56.44 | CarlRhodium | cr2: |
| 22:56.59 | cr2 | ellisway: disable ADSP |
| 22:57.05 | CarlRhodium | 00:47:42CarlRhodium |
| 22:57.05 | CarlRhodium | cr2: redownloading the kernel and doing all the steps again. Fucked something up. This time, I'll make a backup, haha... |
| 22:57.06 | CarlRhodium | 00:47:54CarlRhodium |
| 22:57.06 | CarlRhodium | Thank God for IRC logs to get the steps. ;) |
| 22:57.20 | cr2 | ellisway: you have a different AMSS |
| 22:58.23 | cr2 | CarlRhodium: i think you should disable ADSP too |
| 22:58.32 | CarlRhodium | How? |
| 22:58.55 | cr2 | CONFIG_MSM_HW3D=y |
| 22:58.57 | cr2 | CONFIG_MSM_ADSP=y |
| 22:59.01 | cr2 | these can go away |
| 22:59.09 | CarlRhodium | Delete out or =n? |
| 22:59.15 | CarlRhodium | Oh, and which file? |
| 22:59.23 | cr2 | .config |
| 22:59.29 | cr2 | or search in the menu |
| 23:00.00 | ellisway | k so just change in the defconfig or comment out in adsp.c ? |
| 23:00.33 | cr2 | disable ADSP in System type |
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| 23:00.56 | cr2 | and MSM Hardware 3D Register Driver |
| 23:02.03 | cr2 | you have a newer amss, so adsp et al. will need some patches anyway. |
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| 23:05.08 | ellisway | recompiling with adsp and hw3d =n |
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| 23:05.25 | CarlRhodium | What... the... fuck |
| 23:05.39 | CarlRhodium | I just put cinnamon on my fries... mistook it for some other spice... |
| 23:07.13 | CarlRhodium | Brb, going to ban myself from the world... no, the universe. <.< |
| 23:07.36 | ellisway | lol |
| 23:09.17 | CarlRhodium | T_T |
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| 23:32.41 | CarlRhodium | ellisway: Got any further on Topaz? |
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