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| 00:15.28 | nickds | hello all |
| 00:16.55 | nickds | any news on hardware support for the diamond on the latest kernel builds ? |
| 00:17.08 | nickds | and how much of a task is it to start writing your own drivers ? |
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| 00:50.58 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. I missed dcordes again. |
| 00:57.15 | tmzt | yeah |
| 00:57.30 | tmzt | he reads logs I think though |
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| 08:10.18 | Gnutoo | hi |
| 08:10.51 | Gnutoo | I've usb0 interface because I compiled the ethernet transport over usb in the android function framework(something like gadget framework) but I don't see it on the laptop side(I've looked at some mailing list but they didn't tell what to do on the desktop side) |
| 08:11.04 | tmzt | hello |
| 08:11.11 | tmzt | right |
| 08:11.27 | tmzt | you just need the cdc ether host driver |
| 08:11.31 | tmzt | is it a linux host? |
| 08:11.34 | tmzt | that should just work |
| 08:11.50 | Gnutoo | yes |
| 08:11.54 | Gnutoo | none work |
| 08:12.15 | tmzt | what distro? |
| 08:12.47 | Gnutoo | cdc_ether cdc_subset and rndis_host |
| 08:12.48 | Gnutoo | gentoo |
| 08:13.05 | Gnutoo | but 2.6.25 kernel |
| 08:13.09 | Gnutoo | I've 2.6.30 too |
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| 08:13.24 | Gnutoo | but 2.6.30 doesn't work with nozomi(3g card driver) |
| 08:13.43 | Gnutoo | note that I don't use usb gadget |
| 08:13.50 | Gnutoo | but the function framework |
| 08:14.10 | tmzt | yes I know |
| 08:14.16 | tmzt | this is on g1 right? |
| 08:14.21 | tmzt | what is nozomi? |
| 08:14.27 | tmzt | oh |
| 08:14.30 | tmzt | on your laptop |
| 08:15.13 | Gnutoo | laptop(2.6.25)<->g1(2.6.29) |
| 08:15.36 | tmzt | I forget what the old driver was called, but it should work too |
| 08:15.43 | tmzt | usbnet? |
| 08:15.58 | Gnutoo | ok I'll look |
| 08:16.21 | Gnutoo | doesn't work |
| 08:16.39 | Gnutoo | maybe I'll look into the patch then |
| 08:17.54 | tmzt | what config optionsdo you have in the g1 kernel? |
| 08:17.59 | tmzt | and can you paste lsusb -v -v |
| 08:18.18 | Gnutoo | on which one g1 or computer |
| 08:18.21 | Gnutoo | I bet on laptop |
| 08:18.34 | tmzt | laptop |
| 08:18.38 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 08:20.37 | Gnutoo | http://www.pastebin.ca/1518913 |
| 08:21.23 | Gnutoo | maybe I'll keep only the ethernet transport thing |
| 08:21.30 | tmzt | it's in storage mode |
| 08:21.37 | tmzt | use sdutil to change that |
| 08:21.41 | tmzt | or change the default in .cofnig |
| 08:21.46 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 08:21.50 | Gnutoo | what is sdutil? |
| 08:21.55 | tmzt | actually, disable storage if your not using android userspace |
| 08:22.00 | Gnutoo | it's a laptop util |
| 08:22.02 | tmzt | just enable ether function |
| 08:22.04 | tmzt | no |
| 08:22.05 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 08:22.16 | tmzt | it's an android utility |
| 08:22.19 | Gnutoo | so it runs on android |
| 08:22.23 | Gnutoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 08:23.16 | Gnutoo | I'll compile it statically |
| 08:23.26 | Gnutoo | I'll have to go |
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| 09:37.15 | nickds | hello again tmzt |
| 09:37.27 | tmzt | hi |
| 09:37.47 | nickds | according to what ive read writing a driver for android is the same as any other linux distro |
| 09:37.58 | tmzt | as for bluetooth we don't know what the problem is |
| 09:38.00 | tmzt | well |
| 09:38.19 | tmzt | the kernel drivers are just linux kernel drivers |
| 09:38.43 | nickds | but surely you could recompile a custom kernel with different modules ? |
| 09:38.57 | tmzt | you have diam100\ |
| 09:39.04 | tmzt | yes |
| 09:39.05 | tmzt | es |
| 09:39.16 | tmzt | git is git.linuxtogo.org |
| 09:39.17 | nickds | tzmt: sorry if i say something silly, im completely new to the HTC and Android scence, but have played with *nix for years |
| 09:39.27 | tmzt | mobile linux |
| 09:39.30 | tmzt | msm.git |
| 09:39.38 | tmzt | summary |
| 09:39.39 | nickds | hmm |
| 09:39.50 | tmzt | htc-msm-2.6.27 |
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| 09:40.21 | tmzt | kernel is the focus |
| 09:40.32 | nickds | ah |
| 09:40.48 | tmzt | that helps with android as wel as angstrom |
| 09:40.54 | nickds | does android just sit on the kernel then and use whatever hardware is made avaliable by the kernel ? |
| 09:40.55 | tmzt | debian, gentoo, etc |
| 09:40.59 | tmzt | yes |
| 09:41.03 | nickds | ah brilliant |
| 09:41.12 | nickds | so its just the kernel to worry about |
| 09:41.15 | tmzt | but things like bluetooth are in userspace |
| 09:41.19 | nickds | i bet there has been lots of kernel panis |
| 09:41.21 | nickds | *panics |
| 09:41.25 | tmzt | serial driver is in kernel |
| 09:41.27 | tmzt | wait |
| 09:41.36 | tmzt | not exactly on the bt thing |
| 09:41.40 | tmzt | why? |
| 09:43.35 | nickds | just normally is when things are ported |
| 09:43.57 | nickds | it would be lovelly to eventually be able to strip winmo off completly and just boot into linux |
| 09:44.10 | tmzt | yeah |
| 09:44.11 | nickds | is there even a chance of that |
| 09:44.19 | tmzt | we need a bootloader |
| 09:44.20 | nickds | or does winmo reside in some unaccessable place |
| 09:44.29 | tmzt | and to init all the hardware |
| 09:44.31 | nickds | would grub or lilo not work on such a device |
| 09:44.37 | tmzt | no |
| 09:44.47 | nickds | not natively i guess |
| 09:44.51 | tmzt | not without a lot of work |
| 09:44.54 | nickds | ah |
| 09:45.05 | tmzt | we have nand, not disk |
| 09:45.41 | nickds | very true |
| 09:46.08 | tmzt | maybe you can get the new wifi driver to work |
| 09:46.21 | tmzt | it's working on g1 now |
| 09:46.34 | nickds | ill have a try when i get my device |
| 09:46.47 | tmzt | not sure if the tree is in ltg yet |
| 09:46.48 | tmzt | oh |
| 09:46.49 | nickds | ive got an iPhone and a blackberry curve 8900 |
| 09:46.52 | nickds | how boring ? |
| 09:46.54 | tmzt | which device? |
| 09:46.59 | nickds | diamond |
| 09:47.03 | tmzt | why? |
| 09:47.31 | nickds | ive hacked and played with iPhone so much now its no longer fun :) and blackberry OS is lockdown |
| 09:47.31 | tmzt | we are working on audio |
| 09:47.53 | tmzt | can't make calls with dound yet |
| 09:48.04 | tmzt | that's important for a phone |
| 09:49.08 | nickds | yeah |
| 09:49.39 | nickds | cant any likeness be traced to the kernel versions and the speaker/mic on any of the htc devices that natively run android |
| 09:49.54 | tmzt | some |
| 09:50.02 | tmzt | but it's not enough |
| 09:50.26 | tmzt | it's the basis for research though |
| 09:50.34 | nickds | ah ok |
| 09:50.41 | nickds | git will not run in a windows enviroment will it? |
| 09:50.47 | nickds | or is it possible to use it with cygwin |
| 09:51.01 | tmzt | not sure |
| 09:51.06 | tmzt | google does |
| 09:51.22 | nickds | what OS do you use and how do you compile your kernels ? |
| 09:51.37 | tmzt | but you can't really build kernel |
| 09:51.49 | tmzt | ubuntu, x64, codesourcey |
| 09:52.30 | tmzt | codesourcery.com |
| 09:52.32 | nickds | ah ok |
| 09:52.41 | tmzt | g++ lite |
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| 10:55.52 | nickds | anyone in the the UK want to sell a device ? |
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| 11:05.13 | ratx | nickds: I've got a touch pro on ebay atm |
| 11:10.58 | parmaster | hi |
| 11:20.36 | nickds | ratx: how much is it going for |
| 11:21.37 | ratx | 150 atm; if you search for hardSPL it will bring it up |
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| 15:11.37 | tuples | dang, need to update my radio/rom and no windows machine in sight |
| 15:11.59 | tuples | qemu usb passthrough ftw, assuming I can get it to work |
| 15:14.19 | tmzt | you can do it from sd |
| 15:14.58 | tmzt | or try code.google.com/p/htc-flasher |
| 15:25.07 | tuples | hardspl docs say the first time needs to be done in conjunction with activesync, though upgrades can be done from sd |
| 15:25.07 | tuples | if thats no longer true, or misleading, I'll throw a party :) |
| 15:27.03 | tuples | nice though, htc-flasher looks promising |
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| 15:49.59 | tuples | anyone know of an order of operations for flashing with HTCFlasher? |
| 15:50.18 | tuples | or does it mirror the other flashing method mostly |
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| 23:42.32 | junalmeida | anyone here knows about mtty on htc diamond? |
| 23:52.06 | ali1234 | mtty is mainly just a usb serial console |
| 23:52.17 | ali1234 | unless they changed it |
| 23:53.58 | ali1234 | basically when oyu plug it on linux you should get a /dev/ttyUSBX which you can send commands to using any terminal app |
| 23:54.10 | ali1234 | that's what happens on the older phones anyway |
| 23:54.53 | junalmeida | my diamond have a problem, on winmo. after some hours of use, it hardreset and i lose everything. i read about a bad block on internal memory. So, i'm thinking about using mtty to do a low level format. Do your if its safe? |
| 23:55.08 | junalmeida | *Do you know if its safe? |
| 23:55.31 | ali1234 | sounds extremely unsafe to me |
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| 23:55.52 | ali1234 | reflashing the rom should do the same thing though |
| 23:56.06 | ali1234 | but tbh if the flash chip is dying, i'd return it asap |
| 23:56.24 | junalmeida | yep. reflashing the same rom, and other rom's does not solve the problem. |
| 23:56.51 | ali1234 | the flash chip ftl should handle bad blocks anyway |
| 23:56.55 | ali1234 | when one is found it should remap it |
| 23:56.59 | ali1234 | transparently |
| 23:57.10 | ali1234 | so if it keeps happening, it might mean more pages are dying |
| 23:57.19 | ali1234 | or the problem could be something completely different |
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| 23:58.25 | junalmeida | i'm very sad about this problem... i have other htc devices that works awesome for many and many years... |
| 23:59.12 | junalmeida | do you know, if i use mtty to low format the main memory, will I be able to flash another cooked rom? |