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| 01:56.37 | AstainHellbring | hi |
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| 01:58.42 | AstainHellbring | hows it going |
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| 02:23.13 | MikeKnoop | anyone here familiar with ARM dissasembly? |
| 02:36.48 | MikeKnoop | specifically w/ the windows mobile API... |
| 02:36.50 | maejrep | not great |
| 02:36.58 | maejrep | but I can sometimes figure it out |
| 02:41.24 | MikeKnoop | I'm trying to identify where a resource bitmap is being loaded into memory to be copied to the screen/buffer |
| 02:42.09 | MikeKnoop | I know it's likely using a windows mobile API call to load it but I'm not sure which it would be using |
| 02:47.27 | MikeKnoop | (The whole reason I'm doing this is to identify where the resource is actually drawn to the screen, which I'm having trouble finding) |
| 02:49.52 | AstainHellbring | maejrep hi |
| 02:51.04 | maejrep | yeah if you're talking about in windows, you're going to be running in circles for a while |
| 02:51.38 | maejrep | the call from program X, to draw to the screen, will *not* actually show you how it gets output onto the screen, as that's a low-level hardware functionality |
| 02:53.32 | maejrep | it's probably even in nk.exe or some mddi driver in the XIP |
| 02:54.01 | maejrep | because it's so low-level, you're not very likely to find the drawing code in any of the files you can transfer from the phone |
| 02:54.21 | MikeKnoop | well it's actually from 3rd party application (phone canvas). I've been able to find a limited amount of the static drawing routines but haven't been able to find a dynamic one. |
| 02:54.28 | maejrep | as for loading the image, that can surely be found much easier by checking the WM SDK documentation |
| 02:54.55 | maejrep | ah |
| 02:55.01 | MikeKnoop | Their code calls SETRECT then eventually copies the data into it. |
| 02:55.10 | MikeKnoop | (At least, it does in SOME places) |
| 02:55.13 | maejrep | so you're not interested in how it gets on the screen, just how it gets the binary image data? |
| 02:55.38 | MikeKnoop | Well the end game is manipulating the image location (attempting to port wvga to vga) |
| 02:55.51 | maejrep | the destination location then? |
| 02:55.52 | MikeKnoop | howver I need to identify where this happens, and how, first. |
| 02:55.56 | MikeKnoop | Right. |
| 02:56.14 | maejrep | wouldn't setrect be what you're looking for then? |
| 02:56.38 | MikeKnoop | it -should- be. But it doesn't seem to be the case (i've gone through all the setrects I believe) |
| 02:57.27 | MikeKnoop | Just to give you the idea of what I've seen so far: I found setrects and bitblits which copy static images (incoming caller picture, background image, etc) onto the incoming call screen for the HTC Phone Canvas |
| 02:57.30 | maejrep | I don't know anything about the WM SDK, which is what you need |
| 02:57.48 | maejrep | I could tell you how, say, the bootloader (tri-color screen) draws to the screen ;) |
| 02:57.55 | maejrep | but how M$ does it? hmph :p |
| 02:58.03 | maejrep | your guess is as good as mine |
| 02:58.26 | MikeKnoop | alright I'll investigate further on this. |
| 02:58.38 | MikeKnoop | thanks for listening :) |
| 02:58.48 | maejrep | I don't see any reason that it wouldn't be using the same method to draw a dynamic bitmap, as to draw a static image |
| 02:58.53 | maejrep | whats dynamic about it? |
| 02:59.04 | MikeKnoop | it slides based on your finger dragging it. |
| 02:59.35 | MikeKnoop | and I know the image is loaded as a resource bitmap... so i thought that could help me track down where the drawing takes place. |
| 02:59.37 | maejrep | and you just want to change the coordinates? or change the hard limits that it has for the dragging? |
| 03:00.04 | MikeKnoop | It slides left/right (x-direction) and I'm only interested in changing the y-coordinate |
| 03:00.21 | maejrep | i see, do you know what that set coordinate is? |
| 03:00.34 | MikeKnoop | I though of that actually :) |
| 03:00.37 | maejrep | heh |
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| 03:00.50 | MikeKnoop | I've tried searching the code for the position |
| 03:01.02 | maejrep | that would be a waste really |
| 03:01.03 | MikeKnoop | and also ways that could add up to the correct pixel coordinate |
| 03:01.09 | maejrep | even worse :p |
| 03:01.33 | MikeKnoop | ld hl, 0x100; or hl, 0x55 to get hl as 0x155 |
| 03:01.55 | maejrep | send me the exe, and what you know about where the dragging starts, or some function address to look for |
| 03:02.05 | maejrep | http://htc.privatepaste.com/upload |
| 03:02.55 | AstainHellbring | maejrep whats new? |
| 03:03.03 | maejrep | nothing at all :/ |
| 03:03.13 | maejrep | my raph took a beer splash and doesn't like being touched anymore |
| 03:03.40 | maejrep | so I'm on a Google Ion (Google I/O phone, Sapphire), with tmo service now ;x |
| 03:03.46 | MikeKnoop | http://htc.privatepaste.com/18dOwcOuV1 |
| 03:04.31 | AstainHellbring | ouch maejrep |
| 03:04.50 | MikeKnoop | using ida pro, I have in my notes sub_1001D940 does something with the slide 2 answer |
| 03:05.08 | AstainHellbring | guessing you didnt have insurance? |
| 03:05.12 | maejrep | I do |
| 03:05.34 | maejrep | but I went in on a sunday, and only a store was open, none of the service centers were open |
| 03:05.38 | maejrep | and they couldn't do anything about it |
| 03:05.46 | maejrep | didn't have the Palm Pre, which was my next choice |
| 03:05.58 | MikeKnoop | also, http://htc.privatepaste.com/70783To583 (screenshot of the screen in questoin) |
| 03:05.58 | AstainHellbring | well yah for beer splash you'd have to call asurion not service center |
| 03:06.04 | maejrep | so I said fuck it, went and signed up for a 12-mo contract on tmo |
| 03:06.14 | AstainHellbring | wow |
| 03:06.19 | MikeKnoop | slider is the bottom rectangular piece sticking up above the bottom curtain. |
| 03:06.21 | maejrep | actually the service center did that for me, on my Mogul |
| 03:06.29 | maejrep | same problem - dropped it into a pint glass :p |
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| 03:06.39 | AstainHellbring | ahh I've just called them myself in past |
| 03:07.12 | maejrep | yeah last time I called, they told me I would have to call asurion directly, and deal with them |
| 03:07.19 | maejrep | and I just didn't want to deal with it |
| 03:07.27 | maejrep | I still have my sprint number, I just don't use the phone |
| 03:07.33 | maejrep | and I like the sapphire better anyway |
| 03:08.02 | AstainHellbring | well damn sorry to hear its dead on you guess works stopped on cdma raph for you for now? |
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| 03:10.16 | riddlebox | hello all, how is the htc touch pro and android? |
| 03:12.53 | AstainHellbring | maejrep did you hear sprints supposed to have a android device this year? |
| 03:15.03 | tmzt | hey maejrep !!! |
| 03:15.20 | maejrep | yes, but "no strings" flavor, right? |
| 03:15.26 | maejrep | (not interested) :p |
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| 03:15.30 | maejrep | tmzt: howdy ;p |
| 03:16.07 | AstainHellbring | maejrep "no strings" flavor? |
| 03:16.31 | maejrep | means no google apps, no market, full control to the provider (can lock it down) |
| 03:16.39 | AstainHellbring | ahh eww |
| 03:16.39 | maejrep | for me, no google apps and no unrestricted market = deal breaker |
| 03:17.12 | AstainHellbring | yah nasty till its hacked and there is custom builds for it that allow everything then its all good |
| 03:18.37 | tmzt | maejrep: thinking about making a webos like system :) |
| 03:18.57 | maejrep | I don't even know if you can get things like market and gtalk/gmail on a no-strings flavor of android |
| 03:18.58 | tmzt | MikeKnoop: #hpcdev or #xda-devs might help more |
| 03:19.08 | tmzt | on a what? |
| 03:19.09 | maejrep | would be like getting gmail app on our raph phones |
| 03:19.30 | tmzt | release android devices can all install apk I think |
| 03:19.31 | maejrep | tmzt: <maejrep> means no google apps, no market, full control to the provider (can lock it down) |
| 03:19.33 | tmzt | without market |
| 03:19.39 | maejrep | they can use apk, yes |
| 03:19.44 | AstainHellbring | maejrep seems like custom builds can add basically whatever they need |
| 03:19.46 | maejrep | but it's nice to do so with a searchable market |
| 03:20.17 | maejrep | I don't know if they can add those apps though. I tried adding a G1 gmail.apk to my touch and touch pro, and it won't install |
| 03:20.24 | maejrep | or it installs but force-closes |
| 03:21.06 | MikeKnoop | maejrep, I think that function I cited earlier controls it... Also, I know that R2 controls the Y-coorindate for setrect |
| 03:21.22 | MikeKnoop | Any help interpretting: LDR R2, [R10,#4] |
| 03:22.15 | maejrep | take address that's in R10, add 4 bytes, and retrieve the value at that new address |
| 03:22.31 | maejrep | rather |
| 03:22.43 | maejrep | add 4 bytes to the value of R10, then get the value at the new address |
| 03:22.52 | maejrep | ie, R10 is probably a struct |
| 03:22.58 | maejrep | so if it's { int foo; int bar; } |
| 03:23.17 | maejrep | and R10 points to that struct |
| 03:23.28 | maejrep | [R10,#4] means, give me value of .bar |
| 03:23.46 | MikeKnoop | got it. you'd think I could hardcode a value on top of that word to see if it controls the y-coord |
| 03:24.20 | maejrep | quite possibly. Try stuffing in an instruction just after that line: |
| 03:24.52 | maejrep | LDR R2, #100 |
| 03:24.59 | maejrep | or whatever value you want to try |
| 03:25.25 | MikeKnoop | Well I should probably replace the line |
| 03:25.27 | maejrep | or replace the r10 instruction with that |
| 03:25.30 | maejrep | either way |
| 03:25.32 | tmzt | maejrep: what do you mean you can't touch the raph phone, what do you mean by that? |
| 03:25.34 | maejrep | won't affect the outcome |
| 03:25.42 | maejrep | tmzt: no touch screen |
| 03:25.45 | MikeKnoop | adding after could damage "good" code |
| 03:25.48 | tmzt | usb then? |
| 03:25.53 | maejrep | you're not "adding" |
| 03:25.58 | MikeKnoop | replacing* |
| 03:26.15 | maejrep | tmzt: haven't tried. It charges at least |
| 03:26.33 | maejrep | when I went to the sprint store, it wouldn't even charge - that came back to live about 5 days later |
| 03:26.54 | tmzt | dried out? |
| 03:27.07 | maejrep | possibly .. that's a long time for it to be not dry though |
| 03:27.28 | maejrep | anyway, after I got it charging again, I was able to use the touch screen to some extent, but it was really spotty |
| 03:27.34 | riddlebox | is anyone able to get android running on the touch pro, sprints? |
| 03:27.35 | maejrep | start menu kept jumping on/off |
| 03:27.49 | tmzt | somewhat, no sound from phone calls |
| 03:28.03 | maejrep | a slight tab to the little home/contacts/sms buttons on the screen would cause it to jump alll the way to the end, like I tapped it 100 times |
| 03:28.04 | tmzt | ah |
| 03:28.11 | maejrep | tap* |
| 03:28.27 | maejrep | then about a day or two later, couldn't get any response at all out of the touch screen |
| 03:28.29 | tmzt | incredible |
| 03:29.39 | maejrep | I can still like use the dpad to select the nav buttons, check SMS, respond to SMS using the keyboard (but can't send!! because they took the damn hard shoulder buttons away!! bastards), etc |
| 03:29.54 | maejrep | home/send/end/back still work too |
| 03:30.02 | maejrep | volume, power, all keys on the keyboard |
| 03:30.06 | maejrep | just the touch screen doesn't work |
| 03:30.21 | maejrep | same thing happened to my mogul too ;x I guess my phones just don't like beer |
| 03:30.25 | tmzt | what hard buttons? |
| 03:30.40 | tmzt | if you use the tf sms client you should be able to press enter I think |
| 03:30.51 | maejrep | on the mogul, they had little buttons on the top left and top right of the slider keyboard, that could be used to access the on-screen soft buttons |
| 03:31.00 | tmzt | yeah, okay |
| 03:31.12 | maejrep | with that I could hit Send, but meh |
| 03:31.13 | tmzt | I realize what you mean by "send" now |
| 03:31.16 | tmzt | not respond |
| 03:31.21 | maejrep | yeah :p |
| 03:31.25 | maejrep | I could type! but couldn't send it :p |
| 03:31.41 | maejrep | tried things like shfit+enter, fn+enter, ... |
| 03:32.10 | tmzt | I just don't get it, everything else seems to work for us but not this rpc/audio stuff |
| 03:32.23 | maejrep | data's working now? |
| 03:32.24 | tmzt | we even have the clocks mostly |
| 03:32.41 | tmzt | if it's enabled at least on raph500, but a lot of ppp would crash it |
| 03:32.43 | maejrep | does other rpc stuff work, not audio? |
| 03:32.47 | tmzt | I've just been using putty |
| 03:32.52 | AstainHellbring | maejrep you can try this: http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/04/08/nueNaviKeyboard.aspx |
| 03:33.04 | tmzt | well, audio is more than rpc |
| 03:33.13 | tmzt | are you less busy now? |
| 03:33.29 | tmzt | I think cr2 is still on vacation |
| 03:34.31 | maejrep | I don't generally have a lot of downtime except on weekends |
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| 03:35.18 | tmzt | cr2 had something on gsm before leaving, but it didn't work I think |
| 03:35.38 | tmzt | and I didn't try converting it to cdma, that's going to take more research |
| 03:36.29 | AstainHellbring | tmzt think that new stuff in the donut base will help any? |
| 03:37.01 | tmzt | the cdma stuff? |
| 03:37.04 | maejrep | might help make cdma rely less on things like init scripts to kick off ppp |
| 03:37.05 | tmzt | maybe, if the qdsp is there |
| 03:37.35 | AstainHellbring | from what I seen it adds full cdma settings in the settings panels |
| 03:37.48 | maejrep | tmzt: has any progress been made on the rpc side? what specifically is holding up audio? |
| 03:37.56 | maejrep | AstainHellbring: it does |
| 03:38.23 | maejrep | but I think it's pretty early to be usable (maybe not.., haven't looked) |
| 03:40.39 | AstainHellbring | hmm |
| 03:40.42 | tmzt | it's not clear |
| 03:40.56 | tmzt | qdsp uses mailboxes though, not rpc |
| 03:41.00 | tmzt | or it uses both |
| 03:41.13 | maejrep | mailboxes? :p |
| 03:42.42 | tmzt | a different shared memory device |
| 03:44.15 | tmzt | I mean shared memory mechanism |
| 03:44.34 | tmzt | similar to smd but connected to the dsp directly apparently |
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| 05:05.48 | MikeKnoop | maejrep, if you're stil here, does arm have a NOP command, and if so do you know what hex-code it compiles into? |
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| 05:27.56 | tmzt | MikeKnoop: a few |
| 05:28.20 | tmzt | sually mov r0,r0 |
| 05:28.24 | tmzt | or somethin |
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| 05:39.48 | MikeKnoop | thanks tmzt! |
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| 14:37.53 | erki | hello |
| 14:38.11 | erki | im trying to install anykind on linux to my hw6915 |
| 14:38.15 | erki | but im stuck |
| 14:38.31 | erki | i tried htc universal (precompiled) but it doesnt work |
| 14:38.42 | erki | i guess it shoulnd anyway |
| 14:39.13 | erki | so i thougt it might be a good idea to compile kernel first |
| 14:39.18 | erki | and then install linux. |
| 14:39.32 | erki | but the problem is that im not sure how to do it. |
| 14:39.43 | erki | if anybody has any idea, please let me know. |
| 14:43.01 | erki | if i run any precompiled .cab file it just stops on "jumping to kernel" and nothing else happens |
| 14:43.26 | erki | tried also that ramdisk image, but no with no luck. |
| 14:57.16 | erki | so the precompiled stuff is for HTC_UNIVERSAL but mine is HTC_SABLE |
| 14:57.32 | erki | are they somehow compatible ? |
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| 14:58.13 | erki | everybody seem to be AFK :) |
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| 15:19.59 | erki | anyway. if somebody knows anything about it. please let me know. erki@jabber.ee |
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| 18:29.26 | ^JiGgA^ | hey guys |
| 18:29.34 | ^JiGgA^ | anyone here use android on a titan |
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| 18:31.55 | Ace2067_- | hi |
| 18:32.54 | gonkerd | hi |
| 18:33.05 | gonkerd | nope |
| 18:33.08 | gonkerd | not me |
| 18:33.23 | Ace2067_- | does anyone know where this error is coming from? and which device its referring to: mmc0: SDIO card claims to support the incompletely defined 'low voltage range'. This will be ignored. |
| 18:34.03 | gonkerd | nope |
| 18:34.10 | Ace2067_- | is it the SD card? |
| 18:34.14 | Ace2067_- | or the wlan card? |
| 18:34.30 | gonkerd | i would guess the SD |
| 18:34.46 | gonkerd | just trying to get something running on my magician |
| 18:34.52 | Ace2067_- | because when the wlan driver is loading it shows: TIWLAN: Found SDIO controller (vendor 0x104c, device 0x9066) |
| 18:35.10 | gonkerd | than it is the wlan |
| 18:35.24 | Ace2067_- | is that just a guess? |
| 18:35.39 | gonkerd | yep |
| 18:35.41 | Ace2067_- | because they could be interfering with each other |
| 18:35.56 | gonkerd | dunno |
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| 18:45.33 | gonkerd | Qtopia runs fine, but doesn't find the modem |
| 18:45.39 | gonkerd | any idea how to fix it? |
| 18:48.32 | gonkerd | found the anwser here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3689241 |
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| 19:51.27 | tmzt | Ace2067_-: is you sd on mmc1? is that working? |
| 19:51.42 | Ace2067_- | how do i find out? |
| 19:51.55 | tmzt | paste the whole dmesg |
| 19:51.55 | Ace2067_- | there is no lspci or lsusb here |
| 19:52.10 | tmzt | since you don't have a pci bus, that makes sense |
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