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| 07:54.02 | Moult | I have a Dopod 383 Pro (HTC Hermes is it's other name) and I am considering flashing the rom to windows 6.5. This is my first time doing this. It might sound off topic, but the reason I'm asking is because my computer is Linux (gentoo), and I do not have access to a windows computer (which I think is needed to flash it). I do however have Windows 7 running on a virtualbox, any suggestions? |
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| 08:03.17 | Untouchab1e | Hi all |
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| 08:13.48 | tmzt | Moult: somebody in #xda-devs might be able to help with a nbh flash or doing it from w7 |
| 08:14.10 | tmzt | this channel is primarially about running linux on htc devices |
| 08:14.17 | Moult | tmzt: thank you. |
| 08:14.39 | tmzt | of course they might be asleep also right now |
| 08:17.27 | Moult | tmzt: are they all primarily in US time zones? |
| 08:17.41 | tmzt | eu I think |
| 08:17.42 | tmzt | some us |
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| 08:18.07 | Moult | Aha. |
| 08:18.10 | tmzt | just call it hermes though |
| 08:18.22 | Moult | I was wondering also if i'll be better to run Linux on this phone - is it even possible? |
| 08:18.29 | Moult | I am disgusted with the current WM UI |
| 08:18.43 | tmzt | it is but not sd card |
| 08:18.54 | Moult | tmzt: what do you mean? |
| 08:18.55 | tmzt | so your limited to what fits in ram |
| 08:19.11 | tmzt | the driver for the sd card is not complete |
| 08:19.23 | Moult | Aha - that's quite a big sacrifice haha ;) |
| 08:19.32 | tmzt | yeah |
| 08:19.34 | Moult | tmzt: are there any UI examples? screenshots? etc? |
| 08:19.56 | tmzt | it can be fixed but it takes someone who knows how to write the driver |
| 08:20.07 | tmzt | who has time to work on hermes |
| 08:20.15 | tmzt | maybe htc-linux.org |
| 08:20.38 | tmzt | but basically any qvga image would work if it is small enough |
| 08:20.46 | kiozen | morning |
| 08:20.50 | tmzt | I don't know what herm uses for radio |
| 08:20.57 | kiozen | anyone around with a nokia n810? |
| 08:25.34 | kiozen | goxboxlive: didn't you have such a toy? |
| 08:26.32 | Moult | tmzt: yeah they all seem to be asleep. I think I'll delay flashing the ROM - I'm quite scared to do it by myself hahaha ;) especially because I'm not doing it the "Windows way" |
| 08:27.37 | goxboxlive | kiozen: No i dont have a N810. |
| 08:27.46 | kiozen | ok |
| 08:29.20 | tmzt | Moult: probably good, when are you awake? |
| 08:29.37 | Moult | tmzt: I run on GMT+8, so it's now 4:30PM. |
| 08:29.49 | tmzt | wow |
| 08:29.57 | Moult | tmzt: Generally awake until 1AM or something, so I think I can catch them ;) |
| 08:30.04 | tmzt | it's 430 am here |
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| 08:30.28 | Moult | tmzt: you must be somewhere in the US or Canada then? |
| 08:30.34 | tmzt | us |
| 08:31.03 | Moult | tmzt: ...and I'm guessing you're awake from last night :P not an early riser. |
| 08:31.07 | tmzt | right |
| 08:33.01 | Abracadabra | hi |
| 08:34.19 | tmzt | hello |
| 08:37.18 | Abracadabra | how's it going on the htc-linux side of the virtual world ? XD |
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| 08:38.37 | tmzt | ok |
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| 10:09.20 | dcordes-kais | hi |
| 10:09.49 | dcordes-kais | Moult: you can use HTCflasher to flash nbh from linux |
| 10:10.14 | dcordes-kais | it can be obtained from google code iirc |
| 10:10.23 | Moult | dcordes-kais: thank you, though I have learned that from xda-devs already now ;) |
| 10:10.51 | Moult | dcordes-kais: i was considering getting wm 6.5, but i have apparently also heard a lot of very negative desponses in xda-devs channel about it |
| 10:13.15 | Marajin_ | I don't really see the point in 6.5 |
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| 15:13.25 | patp | anyone know if the sapphire radio would work on the blackstone? I guess it would stop winmo working properly, but it might solve some of the probs with RPC |
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| 15:14.21 | patp | I think sapphire radio has been successfully used on Dream hardware |
| 15:14.53 | patp | it's roughly the same size as the Blackstone radio (give or take 2M) |
| 15:14.59 | patp | Or is it just a stoopid idea? |
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| 15:32.24 | dcordes | patp, that's an interesting idea. dream_kill was talking about using the dream firmware on the wince msm7201a devices. |
| 15:32.30 | dcordes | I guess somebody should just try |
| 15:32.37 | dcordes | s/firmware/amss/ |
| 15:34.25 | dcordes | mickey|zzZZzz, any progress with your smd1? did you try the smem dump after connecting in wince? |
| 15:34.56 | patp | someone with a disposable device could try! |
| 15:35.44 | dcordes | I don't have such a device :> |
| 15:36.10 | mickey|zzZZzz | no, first i'm not feeling good these days (beginning of a summer flu), 2nd I'm afraid I'll take much longer doing this kind of reverse engineering than you guys, hence i think my time is better spent working on the modem specifics |
| 15:36.57 | dcordes | ok. require quickly |
| 15:37.10 | dcordes | recover even |
| 15:37.15 | patp | but blackstone/raph/dream/sapphire all have MSM7201A, and the arm9 core which the radio roms run on is the same - is that right? |
| 15:37.20 | mickey|zzZZzz | thanks. will take a rest for a couple of days |
| 15:37.27 | dcordes | patp, yea |
| 15:38.29 | dcordes | patp, that's why I used msm7201a and not a specific device name |
| 15:38.44 | patp | the image file sizes are differnt though, how does that work? |
| 15:39.50 | dcordes | I don't know such details. but if you have a look at different versions of radio/amss files, you will also notice different sizes, no? |
| 15:40.26 | dcordes | different versions for the same device |
| 15:40.31 | patp | I'll check - from flashing hermes radios I always thought they were the same |
| 15:40.40 | dcordes | hm |
| 15:41.01 | dcordes | dream_kill, might help us. he knows a lot about the amss |
| 15:42.49 | dcordes | patp, trying to look it up in wiki.xda-developers.com I get the index.php file error |
| 15:45.36 | patp | just checked - two blackstone radios with exactly the same byte size |
| 15:46.20 | patp | but very close to the sappire size (5%) |
| 15:46.58 | dcordes | hmhm |
| 15:47.02 | patp | I guess it's possible the saphire image has something else in it |
| 15:47.43 | patp | anyway, it's all moot until some reckless foo^D^D^D genius has a go! |
| 15:47.44 | dcordes | unevil google things |
| 15:48.02 | patp | unevil! nice word |
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| 17:08.50 | patp | hey dcordes - I just looked at blackstone and sappire radio side by side in hex editor. The structure is pretty much identical |
| 17:09.47 | AstainHellbring | well patp got a good warrenty/insurance plan on your blackstone? |
| 17:12.57 | patp | I'm hoping if I put the idea out there someone with more money wil give it a go! |
| 17:14.12 | patp | more seriously, if there was a way to do it, I reckon a donation campaign would raise enough to buy a device |
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| 19:16.18 | exco | can someone maybe tell me why that isn't working (like I expect it to work): |
| 19:16.18 | exco | printk ("GPIO 170 = %i before setting\n", gpio_get_value(170)); |
| 19:16.18 | exco | mdelay(50); |
| 19:16.18 | exco | gpio_set_value(170, 0); |
| 19:16.18 | exco | printk ("GPIO 170 = %i after setting to 0\n", gpio_get_value(170)); |
| 19:16.45 | exco | result: |
| 19:16.45 | exco | [ 71.030616] GPIO 170 = 1 before setting |
| 19:16.45 | exco | [ 71.030728] GPIO 170 = 1 after setting to 0 |
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| 19:34.40 | diogene31 | exco: I didn't follow the beginning, but could I suggset gpio_direction_output(170, 0) ? |
| 19:35.38 | exco | what's that compared to gpio_set/get_value? |
| 19:55.56 | diogene31 | exco: Adds the "output" attribute to the gpio. If your GPIO was left as an "in" gpio, setting its value won't have any effect. |
| 19:57.41 | exco | diogene31: I basically first print the state, then I try to set it to 0 and print it again ... setting works because I the thing I want to work does work - but I still would need to check the state again |
| 19:58.35 | exco | btw, how's linux on your A701? |
| 20:00.34 | diogene31 | exco: Good. Excepting the damn MSystems G3 chip I have no specification for, everything else is working great :) |
| 20:00.41 | dcordes | in electronics, what is a via connector? a solder pad that has access to the other side? |
| 20:03.11 | exco | did you try running Android on it, diogene31? |
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| 20:05.15 | slpr | any progress on getting android to run on the raphael. the wiki havnt been updated for a while, from what i can se |
| 20:08.54 | diogene31 | exco: No. I have no 3D accelerated chip. I expect it to be very very slow. |
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| 20:10.05 | exco | I've read that it's pretty fast on Apache (PXA 270@416MHz) so it should even run better on yours, diogene31 |
| 20:10.28 | diogene31 | exco: Ah, maybe it's worth a try then .... |
| 20:10.32 | slpr | the damn client crashed, any android news for the raphael? |
| 20:12.21 | exco | diogene31: http://esc180.midphase.com/~chillaxi/ |
| 20:12.21 | exco | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43753 |
| 20:15.44 | exco | ok back to my problem ... maybe someone can explain it to me |
| 20:16.46 | exco | There are some read only gpios like when connectiong USB/AC, so I can't set those (thats clear). |
| 20:17.38 | exco | "in" gpios, diogene31, right? |
| 20:17.59 | diogene31 | exco: right. |
| 20:18.13 | exco | but when I am able to set e.g. gpio_set_value(170, 0); and that has the desired effect |
| 20:18.54 | exco | I should be able to read it as gpio_get_value(170) == 0, or are there also write only gpios? |
| 20:19.27 | diogene31 | exco: No, there is no "write only" gpio. If you write it, you can reread the written value. |
| 20:19.52 | diogene31 | What is the CPU we're talking about here ? Intel ? TI ? |
| 20:19.59 | exco | MSM7200 |
| 20:20.43 | diogene31 | exco: Ah Qualcomm. Google's best friend :) |
| 20:21.09 | exco | I'm having this problem that I can set the value, but reading it it is always 1 |
| 20:22.36 | diogene31 | exco: I never saw a Qualcomm datasheet ... but if it's the like of PXA, there can be alternate functions. That means that another register (ie. UART control word for example) controls that gpio. |
| 20:23.13 | diogene31 | exco: In that case, even if you set the gpio manually, the register will take back its rights when you read back the value. |
| 20:23.44 | exco | take back its rights as in change it back on read? |
| 20:27.22 | diogene31 | exco: Can even be before. Example: the receive FIFO of the UART is filled totally. You toggle the RTS bit to say "send more" before it's full. Just then, the FIFO is fulfilled. The UART block sets back the RTS to 1, to say "stop sending". Got that ? |
| 20:29.35 | exco | ;-) now I'm at a loss ... but I can google till I understand what you just said |
| 20:31.16 | diogene31 | exco: OK. Just keep in mind there are 2 paths of control over you GPIO : one is your manual setting (ie. gpio_set_value()), and one internal to your CPU (UART block setting the same GPIO to 1 for its own purpose) |
| 20:31.58 | diogene31 | exco: Look for : GPIO alternate function in google, you'll get it :) |
| 20:32.52 | diogene31 | exco: You should probably also have a peek about "floating voltage" I think. |
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| 20:34.01 | exco | homework ;-) |
| 20:34.20 | diogene31 | exco: :)))) |
| 20:34.36 | diogene31 | Have to go to sleep. Have a nice evening. |
| 20:34.49 | exco | good night, diogene31 |
| 20:34.52 | exco | and thanks |
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| 20:54.54 | dcordes_ | oops wrong window. I found it out trying anyway |
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| 21:02.22 | goxboxlive | cr2, there? |
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| 21:27.48 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes |
| 21:28.45 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 21:28.56 | goxboxlive | how is the weather in munich? |
| 21:41.35 | cr2 | yesterday it was like summer weather, but today in the evening we have a lot of clouds and wind. |
| 21:43.58 | goxboxlive | cr2, ok i s. I hope the it will be good again tomorrow. I'm going to Munich for the weeknd |
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| 22:25.23 | exco | do I set the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf on android as usual? |
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