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| 00:15.18 | marajin | gmarzioz: well first off, which HTC? |
| 00:15.32 | marajin | gmarzioz: and secondly, this is the htc-linux channel, it's what we do |
| 00:17.04 | gmarzioz | hi,marajin |
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| 02:23.37 | rlameiro | hello everyone, is there some user with linux installed with universal? wich is the better disro |
| 02:23.57 | rlameiro | I have the opie one but cant use wifi |
| 02:24.12 | rlameiro | and doesnt have phone. |
| 02:24.18 | rlameiro | GPE is good? |
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| 03:00.03 | Kevin2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.19 | rlameiro | anyone here uses a htc universal with gpe? |
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| 07:02.04 | Untouchab1e | Good morning |
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| 07:41.13 | Untouchab1e | how are we all today? |
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| 12:24.31 | marajin | yo |
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| 13:00.34 | Perkka | oy |
| 13:04.06 | marajin | how goes? |
| 13:04.06 | marajin | hmm has anyone played with video playback under android/linux on the MSM phones? |
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| 13:04.25 | tmzt | not yet |
| 13:04.44 | marajin | ah |
| 13:04.48 | tmzt | it won't work on android because of the dsp differences I think |
| 13:04.49 | marajin | was curious if it actually worked ok |
| 13:05.00 | tmzt | but mplayer should work with vdh |
| 13:05.17 | marajin | well I was mostly curious at the rendering speed |
| 13:05.34 | marajin | I still find it ludicrous that the kovsky can play a 800x480 res 3D game but won't render a 500kbps video properly |
| 13:05.54 | tmzt | it uses gl for the games? |
| 13:06.48 | marajin | um? |
| 13:07.14 | tmzt | GL |
| 13:07.20 | marajin | ah yeah of course |
| 13:07.32 | marajin | but it has the processing power to be able to do it is my point |
| 13:07.55 | tmzt | decoding or rendering? |
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| 13:13.03 | marajin | decoding? |
| 13:14.37 | tmzt | it should be fat enough for that |
| 13:14.41 | tmzt | fast |
| 13:14.55 | tmzt | but the rendering is the issue, isn't it? |
| 13:40.12 | marajin | tmzt: sorry, phone went |
| 13:41.03 | marajin | tmzt: erm, I don't really know, I just know it lags in high motion scenes at 500kbs using the album viewer/player |
| 13:41.10 | marajin | and you can plain forget viewing anything in anything else |
| 13:41.43 | marajin | the only thing that can come close is coreplayer with the QTV support and that has the bluescreen bug on my kovsky now |
| 13:41.56 | marajin | I think 1.30 fixes it but 1.30 is supposed to be buggered on WVGA |
| 13:42.09 | marajin | I'm not entirely sure why cause I'm sure I ran 1.30 on my kovs for a coupla days |
| 13:44.12 | tmzt | qtv support? really |
| 13:45.10 | tmzt | you don't have MediaFLO right? |
| 13:46.30 | marajin | tmzt: MediaFLO? Is this not part of TF3D ? |
| 13:47.04 | tmzt | no, it's like dvb-h -m |
| 13:47.14 | marajin | ah |
| 13:47.19 | tmzt | that's what Qtv is for I think |
| 13:47.34 | marajin | QTV is a way of faster rendering on the MSM chips from all I can gather |
| 13:47.45 | marajin | it drags coreplayer up from 10% to 90% realtime rendering |
| 13:47.49 | tmzt | the sprint raph has it unless that's over evdo and I don't think it is |
| 13:48.04 | marajin | and that's them just reverse engineering it and guessing |
| 13:48.07 | tmzt | this isn't in a source relase is it? |
| 13:48.11 | marajin | no |
| 13:48.35 | tmzt | part of qtv is the ota interface |
| 13:48.48 | marajin | if they had the right info about it from QC, it seems likely that kaiser/kovsky/etc. would render SD video perfectly |
| 13:49.00 | tmzt | maybe the rest is video playback accel but I think that's in aDSP |
| 13:49.31 | marajin | Well I just know they list QTV as a rendering driver and it makes biiiig differences on the MSM handsets |
| 13:49.44 | marajin | but some of them suffer from a 'bluescreen' bug where you get no video rendered just a vaguely blue screen |
| 13:50.03 | tmzt | so the chroma os configured wrong? |
| 13:50.09 | tmzt | is it blue or green |
| 13:51.03 | marajin | hmm, I'd have to check. I thought it was blue |
| 13:51.10 | marajin | but there's no shapes whatsoever just solid |
| 13:52.43 | tmzt | right |
| 13:53.08 | tmzt | it gets replaced with the video |
| 13:55.07 | marajin | I just checked what coreplayer do, they claim they use QTV to provide the overlay |
| 13:55.16 | marajin | so it purely is a rendering issue I guess |
| 13:55.48 | tmzt | makes sense |
| 13:56.03 | tmzt | we need to get libhgl working or something |
| 13:56.29 | marajin | hmm, can GL be used for video rendering on these devices? |
| 13:58.22 | tmzt | it should be possible, though I think aDSP can do it directly |
| 13:58.34 | tmzt | android cv might tell us |
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| 13:59.06 | tmzt | and then it will do h264 in dsp as well |
| 13:59.50 | marajin | I noticed someone on the corecodec forums asking for QTV support under android, maybe media playback is borked even on the g1? |
| 14:01.30 | tmzt | it only supports a limited profile |
| 14:03.20 | marajin | how so? |
| 14:03.48 | tmzt | not sure, supposedly iPhone settings work |
| 14:03.58 | tmzt | but I thout that was AVC |
| 14:05.17 | marajin | it is |
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| 14:35.11 | marajin | morning AstainZZZZZZ |
| 14:43.26 | AstainHellbring | monring marajin |
| 14:45.01 | marajin | how's it going? |
| 14:45.12 | AstainHellbring | going well |
| 14:45.28 | AstainHellbring | other than its snowing here and morons hit the road as I did too |
| 14:45.38 | AstainHellbring | so it took me 1.5 times the normal amount of time to get to work |
| 14:45.48 | marajin | man I hate driving in the snow because of thosee kinda people |
| 14:52.58 | AstainHellbring | yep sucks bad |
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| 15:23.46 | rlameiro | hello everyone |
| 15:24.00 | rlameiro | Anyone uses Linux on the HTC universal? |
| 15:40.56 | tmzt | some do |
| 15:48.06 | rlameiro | I would like to know wich is the best distro |
| 15:48.21 | rlameiro | the info I hve found is way outdated |
| 15:53.25 | tmzt | the problem is the kernel |
| 15:53.32 | tmzt | is outdated |
| 15:53.45 | tmzt | you can run basically any armv5 distro |
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| 16:00.59 | rlameiro | ok |
| 16:01.15 | rlameiro | but the ditros I find doesnt work nicely |
| 16:01.29 | rlameiro | and the info at xda-developers forum n UNI linux |
| 16:01.40 | rlameiro | its very difficult to sort out |
| 16:02.09 | rlameiro | I think what I need its a recent rotfs image to extract to a ext2/3 partition |
| 16:02.27 | rlameiro | I made some work, none had phone working or wireless |
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| 16:06.45 | rlameiro | titchy linux, anyone uses it? |
| 16:09.28 | tmzt | ALoGeNo did |
| 16:11.15 | rlameiro | I will try |
| 16:11.24 | rlameiro | today |
| 16:11.47 | rlameiro | I am going to buy a fast sd card and another card reader for my linux laptop |
| 16:11.50 | tmzt | ok, I don't know what the state of fso on there is |
| 16:11.53 | rlameiro | and then here we go |
| 16:12.11 | tmzt | freesmartphone.org |
| 16:12.15 | tmzt | I mean |
| 16:12.33 | rlameiro | they have a distro? |
| 16:13.15 | tmzt | for freerunner, but the new fso framework should work on uni with some work |
| 16:14.35 | rlameiro | well, I am not so good in makeing and changing distro |
| 16:14.40 | rlameiro | even worst on uni |
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| 16:45.54 | marajin | hey dcordes |
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| 18:00.59 | marajin | dcordes: yo? |
| 18:02.12 | dcordes | marajin: you |
| 18:02.14 | dcordes | yo |
| 18:02.29 | marajin | ah it lives! |
| 18:02.38 | marajin | I was just about to fetch a bucket of coffee ;) |
| 18:02.46 | dcordes | sony ericsson is going to pick up repair my xperia for free |
| 18:03.06 | marajin | nice :) |
| 18:03.28 | marajin | hopefully with a non cracking case this time |
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| 18:04.00 | dcordes | yeah hope that too |
| 18:04.38 | dcordes | gotta go pick up some ink for my printer so I can copy the receipt |
| 18:04.40 | marajin | ah well just keep sending it back till they get it right otherwise ;) |
| 18:04.48 | marajin | hands dcordes a pen. |
| 18:05.15 | dcordes | yea I heard from somebody on xda from .nl who sent it in two times and got a broken one two times |
| 18:05.18 | marajin | Digital age and all but I'm sure you must have head of these. |
| 18:05.30 | marajin | *heard |
| 18:05.34 | marajin | ouch.. |
| 18:05.40 | marajin | some people have no luck |
| 18:06.13 | dcordes | yea |
| 18:06.23 | dcordes | btw can you build arm kernels now? |
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| 18:07.19 | marajin | nope |
| 18:08.01 | marajin | heh conflict merge on git too |
| 18:09.34 | marajin | satanic-server? heh |
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| 18:09.40 | marajin | never noticed that before tcccp_ |
| 18:09.43 | marajin | 'lo Pure4Real_ |
| 18:09.49 | Pure4Real_ | lo marajin |
| 18:09.57 | Pure4Real_ | sup? |
| 18:10.10 | marajin | not much, yourself? |
| 18:10.25 | Pure4Real_ | just came home from research |
| 18:10.46 | Pure4Real_ | there's not much activity in the android on kaiser dev lately |
| 18:12.31 | dcordes | marajin: so you are in the middle of a conflict merge? |
| 18:17.44 | marajin | dcordes: yeah but I probably can't compile anyway |
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| 21:51.50 | dcordes | marajin: lol they wanted 21⬠for the black ink cartidge and I couldn't find a third party alternative |
| 21:52.11 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kovsky Panel controller: ATi (rumored to have 128 MB of VRAM) ?? |
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| 22:10.25 | marajin | dcordes: yeah so they say, 128MB VRAM is nuts huh? |
| 22:10.45 | marajin | it has at least 32 though |
| 22:11.45 | marajin | dcordes: someone should tell xmoo his forum links to android/linux rars are broken |
| 22:12.36 | dcordes | I have no idea. I am just wondering why it says rumored. the device is out for a while now. is that still unkown? |
| 22:13.20 | marajin | yep |
| 22:13.33 | marajin | how is it easy to check under windows, OGL would report I guess? |
| 22:15.59 | dcordes | no clue |
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| 22:49.09 | marajin | dcordes: I'll do a quick bit of tinkering |
| 22:59.31 | lupine_85 | my nokia has OpenGL ES although I don't know what hardware's powering it |
| 22:59.38 | lupine_85 | damn hard to find out >< |
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| 23:00.14 | lupine_85 | http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Nokia E71 <-- possibly not hardware ;) |
| 23:01.15 | lupine_85 | humm, apparently it is |
| 23:02.20 | marajin | lupine_85: not at all, glbenchmark WILL tell you what the hardware is |
| 23:02.23 | marajin | lupine_85: http://www.glbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro&resultid=7971511&D=X1 |
| 23:02.27 | marajin | just ran it on my X1 |
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| 23:03.33 | Gentoon1 | tmzt? |
| 23:04.24 | marajin | dcordes: interesting, the x1 reports itself as a 7500 in the graphics hardware |
| 23:05.07 | marajin | dcordes: 'GL_RENDERER: Q3Dimension MSM7500W 01.02.03 0 5.1.2' |
| 23:10.11 | marajin | wonder why it reports max GL size as VGA, cause I'm sure it rendered WVGA |
| 23:10.48 | marajin | the triangle counts aren't terrible it could render a decent model |
| 23:18.32 | marajin | hmm, I wonder what it's calcing the available memory from.. system, system + video or free system + free video |
| 23:18.56 | marajin | if it's the latter, it definitely has 128MB Video RAM |
| 23:19.31 | marajin | but I suspect it's just total system RAM it's reporting nothing more |
| 23:34.47 | marajin | hey AstainHellbring |
| 23:35.53 | AstainHellbring | hiya marajin |
| 23:38.42 | marajin | how goes? |
| 23:40.57 | TheSarge | tmzt |
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| 23:59.21 | AstainHellbring | marajin goes well |