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| 09:27.03 | Pablo_Magician | hi all. is here anybody with magician?? |
| 09:28.45 | Pablo_Magician | while booting linux on my magician the screen goes white:/ |
| 09:29.22 | Pablo_Magician | i looged into it and in kernel log found that i have samsung display |
| 09:31.12 | Pablo_Magician | i tried imgages from: http://excogitation.de/lastik/,http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ with no sucess, the only one i could boot corectly is from http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ |
| 09:38.30 | Pablo_Magician | i'm using 64bit linux with arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc 4.2.2 |
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| 10:43.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i ve a problem with M compiling with msvc , it complain about missing stdint.h in GeoMath.cpp |
| 10:44.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: bbl, goint to eat |
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| 11:39.30 | BabelO_ | back |
| 11:41.10 | cr2 | BabelO_: stdint.h is c99 ? |
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| 11:41.34 | BabelO_ | cr2: it seem i ve not it in msvc |
| 11:41.52 | BabelO_ | cr2: http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/C_CPP/comp.lang.c/2004-03/2842.html |
| 11:52.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: look at the GT code |
| 11:52.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, else i found that http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2006-December/020305.html :) |
| 11:52.54 | kiozen | BabelO_: as GoeMath is in GT too, we must have solved it there :) |
| 11:53.24 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes good remark |
| 11:54.25 | BabelO_ | kiozen: my other problem is the qserialport too |
| 11:54.57 | kiozen | BabelO_: just disable gps for now |
| 11:56.07 | BabelO_ | cr2: can you give me the link to a compiled version of proj4 for wince ? |
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| 13:02.58 | cr2 | BabelO_: http://www.gdal.org/wince.html ? |
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| 16:42.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: around ? |
| 16:42.44 | BabelO_ | kiozen: error C2040: 'projUV' : 'LPWSTR' differs in levels of indirection from 'projUV' |
| 16:43.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: what line and file? |
| 16:44.06 | BabelO_ | in Geomath.h |
| 16:45.51 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is in projects.h |
| 16:45.57 | BabelO_ | something the compiler don't like |
| 16:46.08 | BabelO_ | #define LP projUV i think |
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| 16:47.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: in the projects.h header? |
| 16:47.20 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes |
| 16:47.32 | kiozen | oh |
| 16:48.51 | BabelO_ | kiozen: that's the only remaining error before linking :( |
| 16:50.38 | kiozen | guess LP is defined as 'LPWSTR' |
| 16:50.50 | kiozen | by wince |
| 16:50.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but i remove lot of thing, related to QWSServer and QWaitWidget |
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| 16:51.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: also change your MapLevel class before min and max are protected :( so i call them minz and maxz |
| 16:56.20 | kiozen | BabelO_: I should rewrite M a third time and make it qt only |
| 16:56.43 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes agree, really needed |
| 16:57.18 | kiozen | BabelO_: but have to finish gatrmin/GT first |
| 16:57.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: can you comment out that silly line? |
| 17:04.27 | oliver___ | does anyone feel brave enough to help me (a n00b) get started building a working kernel? ive got a htc-nike. |
| 17:06.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i ' ll try but it fail everywhere then |
| 17:07.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, just a thought |
| 17:09.02 | kiozen | BabelO_: http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/proj/2006-November/002664.html |
| 17:09.13 | kiozen | http://osdir.com/ml/gis.proj-4.devel/2006-03/msg00054.html |
| 17:09.59 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes i 'm recompiling gdal + wce + proj4 right now |
| 17:10.10 | kiozen | ok |
| 17:10.30 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i use proj4 cvs with wince patch inside :) |
| 17:26.33 | BabelO_ | kiozen: :( i miss PJ_mpoly.c when i check out wince CVS :( |
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| 17:33.18 | FRITZ | TO EVERYONE > A out of topic subject.., iam reading this just now.. http://gizmodo.com/5064357/google-has-a-remote-kill-switch-for-android-apps So.. ANDOIND is not OPEN how they speak about? |
| 17:37.29 | BabelO_ | cr2, kiozen is this usefull for you ? Gauss-Schreiber Transverse Mercator (aka Gauss-Laborde Reunion) |
| 17:38.22 | dcordes | FRITZ, that headline sounds hillarious |
| 17:39.05 | FRITZ | <dcordes> Specify in what point? |
| 17:39.47 | FRITZ | <dcordes> they already have this? or is just a viral like windowmobile video under iphone? |
| 17:39.56 | dcordes | FRITZ, as of now, the whole android filesystem is highly intransparent and dangerous software |
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| 17:41.59 | FRITZ | <dcordes> Humm, soo? because this i just write this here. Thigs just GODS/KERNELPROGRAMERS like dudes here know now come to surface.. |
| 17:42.17 | FRITZ | :-) |
| 17:45.10 | cr2 | FRITZ: how do you know that AMSS does not have a kill switch ? |
| 17:46.03 | cr2 | BabelO_: all these weird names have only historical value. 2 projections should be enough for everybody :) |
| 17:48.22 | kiozen | cr2: I am still a captive fan of Eckert IV :) |
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| 17:50.48 | cr2 | kiozen: lol. then you should fix the proj4 compilation :) |
| 17:51.30 | kiozen | cr2: wince snafu has nothing to do with peculiar projections :) |
| 17:51.43 | FRITZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.54 | cr2 | i've found a shuttle flying chart from 1990 in my papers. it also uses some strange projection. |
| 17:53.12 | cr2 | FRITZ: the android kernel is free software as in GPL. if you don't like the android java stuff you can simply remove it, and use qtopia. |
| 17:54.02 | cr2 | FRITZ: that's what i'm going to do on raphael: wince -> trash. |
| 17:55.18 | cr2 | not controlling the AMSS is the real danger, but you can't explain that to the brainless journalists anyway ;-) |
| 17:56.12 | FRITZ | <cr2> Please iam not trying to flame or be inpolite here.., just puting ideas.., the better we can do and share.., how you write ANDROID KERNEL of free software in GPL. Doing a resume, KERNEL if free in GPL, ANDROID is a trademark from GOOGLE and you cant use this withoout permission from GOOGLE. ( yesterday me and friends we was talking about this). |
| 17:57.23 | dcordes | FRITZ, yea. AMSS is the software that runs on the modem part of the chip. it is not so easy to replace |
| 17:58.01 | cr2 | the android kernel is called linux-msm, nobody trademarked that afaik. |
| 17:59.21 | FRITZ | Someone write me someplace.. andoid is free like iphone.., both have they brand names in property, diference is, apple used a kind of bsd jernel HIDE IT and stolen the code, android using linux/kernel DONT HIDE IT and stole the code same way.. ( well, iam speaking a general way ) microsoft USED EVERYTHING and stolen EVERYTHING AND HIDE IT.. |
| 17:59.59 | FRITZ | AT END THEY HIDE SOMETHING.... |
| 18:01.04 | dcordes | FRITZ, you must distinguish between the different layers of hardware and software operating on them |
| 18:01.34 | dcordes | if you try to understand what's going on |
| 18:02.03 | FRITZ | <dcordes> sorry if iam not being clear, but ITS IAM SPEAKING.. in my bad english crazy mind way.. :-) |
| 18:04.06 | marajin | FRITZ: crazy mind is right |
| 18:04.32 | dcordes | FRITZ, there is arm9 part of the chip with the AMSS (modem, gps, ...) which is nonfree and complicated, then there is arm11, the system processor which has (in case of g1) the linux kernel which of course must be free, and on top of that run the intransparent google blobs |
| 18:04.55 | marajin | dcordes: yo |
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| 18:04.59 | dcordes | hi there |
| 18:06.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: still around ? |
| 18:06.12 | FRITZ | Yes Its. but google still speaking about the SO BE A KIND OF HOLLY GRAAL OF OPEN SOURCE FREE SYSTEM where anyone can go in and read all source of QUALCOM CODES FREE AND SMILLE A LOT, produce craz documents and GIVE THE HANDS and SAY LETS CODE GREAT AMAZING NEW KERNEL DRIVERS NOW BECAUSE GOOGLE IS OUR FRIEND.. |
| 18:06.18 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes |
| 18:06.21 | dcordes | FRITZ, the point of concern about AMSS is the following: while you can run whatever free system on the arm11, if you want to make use of wide parts of the hardware, you must run the dangerous AMSS |
| 18:07.11 | dcordes | FRITZ, modem, gps, camera etc are always interfaced with the AMSS |
| 18:10.16 | FRITZ | They come one month ago ( guys from a phone company and from google to SELL the phones to company and ho god.., how they speak, we just get the sdk, phone and can produce any kind of "ANDROID" SO for free.. My boss come to us ans say hoo, now we can do our own phone with andoid.. ... Abotu this iam speaking, they SPEAK something already isnt. <dcordes> how you speak, you can do use of phone. but if want use advanced functions hardware USE MY |
| 18:11.07 | marajin | FRITZ: they're salesmen, of course they lie |
| 18:12.48 | FRITZ | Yess... And coming back to start of this talk.., Posts like one from gizmodo and others, start to SPEAK to EVERYONE. the salesman/GOOGLE MARKETING about OPEN SOURCE FREE PHONE is not like they speak about..ITS NOT SO OPEN.... AND NOT SO FREE... |
| 18:13.33 | marajin | well loosely speaking there's two computers inside an MSM based phone so .. one of them is 'open' |
| 18:13.41 | marajin | and well, that's just qualcomms problem |
| 18:13.52 | marajin | if you based the phone on something else then sure, we wouldn't have to worry about amss |
| 18:14.02 | marajin | so that's not google's problem |
| 18:14.16 | dcordes | yea give us nice omap3 phones, people. |
| 18:14.18 | marajin | it's HTC and t-mobile that you gotta talk to |
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| 18:15.16 | marajin | FRITZ: What do you do at your business? |
| 18:15.48 | FRITZ | Humm, about this salesmands on company " YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WITH PHONE, BUT NEED TO HAVE THE GOOGLE NAME OR WE SHIT ( SHUT I KNOW, BUT SHIT SEEMS BETER) DOWN YOUR PLANS).. soo.. no spend MONEY FOR FREE.. BUTTIME YES SEE US HERE? :-) |
| 18:16.15 | marajin | FRITZ: that's just copyright law, you have to credit the code creators |
| 18:16.28 | marajin | I don't see why it's unfair to not mention google if you're using android |
| 18:16.32 | FRITZ | At moment? trying convince my BOSS taht HIPERV is not BETHER VMWARE, and that A CRAZY SHIT SOMEONE FROM SOME PLACE COME TO SOLD WITH WINDOWS 2008 IS NOT BETTER OPENNAS |
| 18:18.15 | FRITZ | And we cant not to change all our 120 basic computer from secretary to WINDOWS and CRAZY NEW DELL WITH BLACK CASE AND A WINDOWS CAN DO YU SPEED ON INTERNET AND SPEMD TIME ON MSN AND YOUTUBE from our P3 ruing our own linux sistem that didnt crash at last 5y |
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| 18:18.59 | marajin | heh |
| 18:19.00 | marajin | fair enough |
| 18:20.02 | dcordes | FRITZ, you make phone software? |
| 18:21.48 | FRITZ | Noooo...., game company,.... one of the worst place to be.. 99% speaking windows/DELL is crazy better for plataforms and 1% trying to convince that LUNUX/BSD still cheap/less payload/lesstroubles.. |
| 18:22.24 | marajin | what platforms do you develop for? |
| 18:23.45 | FRITZ | Iam not a developer by the way, more a network administrator.. we try to maintain our develpment ( we i mean we poor guys, not BOSS) under linux ( slackware/slamd) and BSD ( FREE BSD) |
| 18:25.29 | dcordes | FRITZ, ah so the salesmen suggested your company to make some games for android? |
| 18:26.01 | FRITZ | Hummmmm....... wellll... how you speak... the to ANDROID/GOOGLE.... THAT HOW I SPEAK NOT FREEE.... |
| 18:27.16 | FRITZ | They sell a concept of FREE.. butt rEADING THE LINES and speaking with our SLAVES ( KIDDING DEVELOPERS)... everything become more CLEAR,... |
| 18:28.39 | FRITZ | Just to understand the structure we have the BOSS ( KOREAN ONES JUST SAY DO IT I PAY), the COMPANY DEVELOP THE GAME AND SEEL FOR THUIS |
| 18:29.07 | FRITZ | THIS KOREAN BOS, WE THE FIRST LEVEL OR SLAVES, THE PROGRAMER/DEVELOPERS ( SECOND LEVEL OF SLAVES). |
| 18:29.14 | FRITZ | :-) |
| 18:29.17 | dcordes | lol |
| 18:31.02 | FRITZ | And just to append the cooment.. underlines.., microsoft with 100% closed SO is more COMPLACENT and GENEROUS with the DEVELOPM<ENT of games to phone than GOOGLE ANDOID BIG OPEN SOURCE CRAZY SYSTEM.. |
| 18:31.25 | mickey|sofa | senses too many caps |
| 18:33.02 | szsoftware | dcordes: yo |
| 18:33.13 | dcordes | mickey|sofa, szsoftware hi |
| 18:33.20 | mickey|sofa | yo dcordes |
| 18:33.38 | dcordes | mickey|sofa, we had an ezx developer here the other day |
| 18:33.39 | szsoftware | dcordes: what's going on on your side of the universe? |
| 18:34.30 | dcordes | szsoftware, absolutely nothing, on yours? |
| 18:35.16 | szsoftware | dcordes: I'm creating recipes for wvdial and firstly libwvstreams |
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| 18:35.52 | dcordes | szsoftware, nice. did somebody push your fbi recipes? |
| 18:36.15 | mickey|sofa | dcordes: cool. did you pester him/her to do audio so that we can finally release something to the public? :) |
| 18:36.18 | szsoftware | dcordes: yes, It seems so |
| 18:36.38 | dcordes | mickey|sofa, no but I totally pstered him with OE lol |
| 18:36.45 | mickey|sofa | fair enough :) |
| 18:36.52 | mickey|sofa | oh |
| 18:36.52 | mickey|sofa | ezx |
| 18:36.55 | mickey|sofa | not OpenEzx |
| 18:36.57 | mickey|sofa | didn't see |
| 18:37.24 | mickey|sofa | well, in that case, they should be pestered to release the old damn docs |
| 18:37.33 | mickey|sofa | chips no one gives a damn these days |
| 18:37.35 | mickey|sofa | but are hindering us |
| 18:37.40 | mickey|sofa | to come up with free replacements |
| 18:37.47 | mickey|sofa | *shrug* |
| 18:38.08 | jgw | this project is doomed. |
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| 18:38.51 | mickey|sofa | huh? |
| 18:38.55 | mickey|sofa | chuckles |
| 18:39.03 | marajin | dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom |
| 18:39.03 | dcordes | pff |
| 18:39.31 | dcordes | mickey|sofa, I'm not sure he was talking about a unified buildsystem for qtopia applications |
| 18:41.02 | mickey|sofa | hmm |
| 18:41.38 | mickey|sofa | w/ the qtopia folks forking and inventing their own buildsystems i have little hope |
| 18:41.47 | mickey|sofa | qmake works |
| 18:41.57 | mickey|sofa | i have no idea why everyone keeps tinkering with that |
| 18:42.11 | szsoftware | dcordes: unfortunately I stuck creating libwvstreams recipe. It's configure doesn't find zlib.h, even this is staged ^^ |
| 18:45.02 | dcordes | mickey|sofa, I don't have much clue about qtopia. how's fso going? |
| 18:46.59 | mickey|sofa | amazing |
| 18:47.11 | mickey|sofa | last three weeks we made great progress |
| 18:47.25 | mickey|sofa | we're releasing 0.9 at the end of this year |
| 18:47.34 | mickey|sofa | being pretty feature complete for the first iteration |
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| 18:49.50 | mickey|sofa | after that we're going to stabilize and add more Vala plugins where needed |
| 18:49.59 | mickey|sofa | plus more machine support, of course |
| 18:50.18 | mickey|sofa | and more docs + tests... |
| 18:53.09 | dcordes | what about speed? |
| 18:53.33 | dcordes | does it run fast enough on the freerunner already? |
| 18:56.24 | mickey|sofa | sure |
| 18:57.27 | mickey|sofa | most of the time is spent waiting for the modem or reading files or whatever |
| 18:57.29 | dcordes | mickey|sofa, http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2008/10/07/#20081007-uboot this made me wonder |
| 18:57.46 | mickey|sofa | ah |
| 18:57.47 | mickey|sofa | FSO-images |
| 18:57.51 | dcordes | "# FSO images can be installed, but are incredibly slow" |
| 18:57.55 | mickey|sofa | unfortunately we have a PR problem |
| 18:58.15 | mickey|sofa | if I'm referring to FSO, i mean the freesmartphone.org API and frameworkd, the reference implementation |
| 18:58.18 | dcordes | the naming situation is a bit confusing |
| 18:58.26 | mickey|sofa | well |
| 18:58.30 | mickey|sofa | people mix |
| 18:58.35 | mickey|sofa | people don't know how to separate |
| 18:58.38 | mickey|sofa | zhone is the UI |
| 18:58.44 | mickey|sofa | that may be slow |
| 18:58.51 | mickey|sofa | or he meant booting |
| 18:58.53 | mickey|sofa | who knows |
| 18:58.57 | mickey|sofa | frameworkd is fine |
| 18:59.06 | mickey|sofa | i take no guarantee for any UIs or clients |
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| 18:59.41 | mickey|sofa | next time i start such a project i won't release UIs |
| 18:59.47 | mickey|sofa | i will only release command line images |
| 18:59.51 | mickey|sofa | that way perhaps people learn |
| 19:00.17 | dcordes | so there is no current preview of what future UIs will look like? |
| 19:00.38 | mickey|sofa | well, there is zhone |
| 19:00.40 | mickey|sofa | our testing UI |
| 19:00.47 | mickey|sofa | but FSO is completely not about UI |
| 19:00.51 | mickey|sofa | so this is completely irrelevant |
| 19:01.12 | mickey|sofa | people will build UIs on top of FSO |
| 19:01.20 | mickey|sofa | e.g. the SHR team is working on one |
| 19:01.23 | mickey|sofa | rasterman is working on one |
| 19:01.28 | mickey|sofa | openmoko is working on one |
| 19:02.46 | dcordes | ok thanks. I definetly got it wrong then. I was assuming zhone is the way openmoko will go :) |
| 19:03.32 | mickey|sofa | no, not at all |
| 19:03.35 | mickey|sofa | in fact, openmoko hates zhone |
| 19:03.47 | mickey|sofa | taste... |
| 19:04.27 | mickey|sofa | i find it always hard to write middleware without API consumers |
| 19:04.42 | mickey|sofa | that's why we worked on zhone |
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| 19:17.03 | dcordes | mickey|sofa, is the openmoko gui you mentioned testable yet? |
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| 19:52.30 | kaze | hello, what a "angstromoid systems |
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| 19:52.46 | kaze | as mentioned in readme.txt |
| 19:52.59 | dcordes | kaze, angstrom-distribution.org |
| 19:53.05 | kaze | ok |
| 19:55.44 | kaze | search engine didnt find any reference to angstromoid neither android |
| 19:56.00 | dcordes | lol it's confusing let me change |
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| 20:07.30 | BabelO_ | cr2: :) |
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| 20:22.29 | cr2 | BabelO_: M for wince ? |
| 20:22.44 | tmzt | mickey|sofa: if I wanted to write a fso gui for a non touchscreen qvga device, what would you recommend basing it on? |
| 20:23.25 | dcordes | tmzt, ncurses :) |
| 20:24.06 | tmzt | that's a possibility |
| 20:24.34 | dcordes | I think ginge had such an approach for the kaiser |
| 20:24.48 | tmzt | so X is not going so well for kaiser? |
| 20:24.53 | dcordes | not with fso though. |
| 20:25.00 | dcordes | tmzt, still don't have it working |
| 20:25.41 | dcordes | ts isn't fixed either yet |
| 20:26.27 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes close to success for first start :) |
| 20:29.44 | cr2 | tmzt: i doubt that 'n'phone is more difficult to write than alsamixer. |
| 20:31.22 | tmzt | 'n'phone ? |
| 20:31.27 | dcordes | ncurses phone ? |
| 20:31.45 | cr2 | yes |
| 20:31.55 | tmzt | would like to be able to use a browser too, but maybe screen and links2 would work |
| 20:32.03 | tmzt | it's basically what I use now on mp900c |
| 20:32.18 | cr2 | touchscreen is not different from a mouse. |
| 20:32.42 | tmzt | I have dpad, not ts or mouse (q and probably dash) |
| 20:33.38 | tmzt | would be happy to get a cli working with msm6550 over usbipc or whatever it is |
| 20:34.01 | tmzt | but need to get usb transceiver working by tracing spi/ssp first |
| 20:34.52 | tmzt | do you know what apache uses for phone (msm) interface |
| 20:34.54 | tmzt | > |
| 20:34.57 | tmzt | ? |
| 20:44.45 | infernix | hi guys. |
| 20:44.56 | infernix | how's SD for kaiser? can I use a root fs on sdhc yet? |
| 20:45.21 | dcordes | infernix, angstrom only crashes sometimes |
| 20:46.01 | cr2 | dcordes: the dma patched ? |
| 20:46.33 | dcordes | cr2, I don't have dma patched code/builds |
| 20:49.31 | infernix | nobody really knows how to fix it i guess |
| 20:49.57 | infernix | not only am i getting fed up with WM, my kaiser is starting to fall apart too :| |
| 20:50.04 | infernix | so i might be forced to upgrade |
| 20:50.34 | dcordes | to raphael? |
| 20:52.09 | infernix | i don't know yet |
| 20:53.00 | infernix | i really don't want to be stuck with WM only |
| 20:58.18 | infernix | and i don't know if a raphael will ever boot angstrom or android |
| 20:58.35 | infernix | with its features actually working |
| 20:58.45 | dcordes | buy a freerunner :) |
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| 21:13.09 | infernix | # GPRS (2.5G not EDGE) |
| 21:13.25 | infernix | need hsdpa for on the road |
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| 21:23.00 | dcordes | infernix, I hope the g1 (dream) kernel code will enable the kaiser wifi for us |
| 21:23.16 | infernix | is it not available |
| 21:23.17 | infernix | ? |
| 21:23.43 | dcordes | afaik for the sdio there is only the driver in hh.org |
| 21:23.58 | dcordes | which builds for me with some small patches for the newere kernel |
| 21:26.12 | dcordes | brb |
| 21:43.59 | cr2 | infernix: 22+ |
| 21:44.17 | infernix | cr2: 22+? |
| 21:45.56 | infernix | gives cr2 a confused look |
| 21:58.37 | cr2 | after 22 october |
| 21:59.48 | NetRipper | cr2, there are people with G1's willing to make a rom dump on the Dream subforum of xda |
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| 22:01.10 | cr2 | NetRipper: i've lost the track |
| 22:01.31 | NetRipper | retrace your steps and get back on track |
| 22:07.43 | cr2 | don#t see anything useful there |
| 22:08.30 | NetRipper | no they dont know how to dump yet |
| 22:19.01 | cr2 | NetRipper: it may be very difficult, actually |
| 22:23.48 | NetRipper | raw dumps will probably be the same - via mtty in bootloader |
| 22:24.08 | NetRipper | but the filesystem will be different |
| 22:24.13 | NetRipper | the way files are stored |
| 22:24.52 | NetRipper | getting the kernel and modules depend on how well the root fs is shielded |
| 22:25.05 | NetRipper | if shielded at all |
| 22:25.13 | NetRipper | a java app like in that forum thread may do the trick |
| 22:25.22 | NetRipper | when written properly |
| 22:25.22 | NetRipper | :p |
| 22:25.27 | cr2 | bootloader ? |
| 22:25.38 | cr2 | are you sure they use htc oemsbl ? |
| 22:25.48 | NetRipper | they'll have some kind of spl |
| 22:25.52 | cr2 | hm. sorry |
| 22:26.01 | cr2 | it's called appsbl |
| 22:26.24 | NetRipper | obviously not sur ethey do, but they still need a tool to flash roms with |
| 22:26.31 | NetRipper | and why re-invent the wheel |
| 22:26.34 | cr2 | yes, but it's not necessarily the htc wince appsbl |
| 22:27.03 | NetRipper | it's probably easier to simply adjust the current spl than to make a whole new one |
| 22:27.07 | cr2 | hm. it depends on android |
| 22:27.17 | cr2 | how secure they want to make the phone |
| 22:27.23 | NetRipper | besides, it should just jump to linux kernel code instead of wince kernel code |
| 22:27.34 | NetRipper | yes, htc has no history of making it secure though ;) |
| 22:27.59 | cr2 | to boot zimage, you need to create the tags |
| 22:28.13 | cr2 | so the boot protocol will be different from wince. |
| 22:28.21 | NetRipper | tags are created in head.S |
| 22:28.32 | cr2 | ? |
| 22:28.54 | cr2 | memory start, size, mtype and so on ? |
| 22:29.04 | NetRipper | ah, right |
| 22:30.17 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.17 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.17 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.20 | NetRipper | machine nr and atags |
| 22:30.53 | cr2 | NetRipper: btw, since your decompressor does not work, somehting must be wrong with the memory tags/setup |
| 22:31.20 | NetRipper | haven't tried the vogue yet |
| 22:31.23 | cr2 | have you tried the vogue fb debug code in uncompress.h ? |
| 22:31.24 | NetRipper | maybe that one works |
| 22:31.44 | NetRipper | have been out this evening, so haven't had a chance to try |
| 22:31.54 | cr2 | what is set into the tags ? |
| 22:35.30 | NetRipper | cr2, core tag (?), cmdline, phys addr and size tag, initrd tag, and a closing tag |
| 22:36.09 | NetRipper | i'm off to bed, will continue tomorrow and hopefully get to trying vogue then, want to see if fb works :P |
| 22:36.15 | NetRipper | would be nice, but i dont expect it |
| 22:36.23 | NetRipper | good night |
| 22:36.43 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:36.48 | cr2 | dvb-usb: found a 'LITE-ON USB2.0 DVB-T Tuner' in cold state, will try to load a firmware |
| 22:36.48 | cr2 | dvb-usb: did not find the firmware file. (dvb-usb-dibusb-6.0.0.8.fw) Please see linux/Documentation/dvb/ for more details on firmware-problems. (-2) |
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