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| 00:39.35 | BabelO | cr2: ok it works, once i remove lot of program :) |
| 00:39.56 | BabelO | good night |
| 00:40.03 | tcccp | nite |
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| 10:05.38 | cr2 | hi |
| 10:07.15 | cr2 | kiozen: it seems that you have some mysterious competitors :) http://www.terraperfecta.com |
| 10:09.15 | kiozen | cr2: the are heaps of similar stuff out there |
| 10:09.35 | kiozen | cr2: but none for Linux, and none for free in speecha and beer |
| 10:09.35 | tsdogs | cr2: hi, well only windowz releases won't dominate the world :) |
| 10:10.05 | kiozen | cr2: and I do Linux and windows (even with installer, thanks to BableO) |
| 10:10.11 | kiozen | hi tsdogs :) |
| 10:10.16 | tsdogs | hi kiozen |
| 10:10.37 | cr2 | kiozen: and mac and osx |
| 10:10.42 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
| 10:10.55 | kiozen | cr2: this is still not for sure :) |
| 10:11.05 | cr2 | kiozen: somebody has compiled merkaartor for wince. |
| 10:11.45 | kiozen | cr2: mac sissies don't know how to compile QLandkarte and thus don't use it |
| 10:11.49 | cr2 | kiozen: lol, GT for wince is fun. |
| 10:11.59 | kiozen | cr2: they play beta tester for Garmin's Bobcat |
| 10:12.20 | kiozen | cr2: GT for wince is... well stupid |
| 10:12.27 | kiozen | we have got M |
| 10:13.02 | cr2 | lol |
| 10:14.05 | kiozen | cr2: but mercator looks nice :) |
| 10:14.55 | kiozen | cr2: is it supposed to put this josm thing out of business? |
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| 10:20.44 | tsdogs | cr2: you added dglib in cvs, was your intention to port the navigation from editor? |
| 10:28.45 | cr2 | kiozen: i think so |
| 10:29.39 | cr2 | tsdogs: yes, there is a really good perl script to convert the osm data into the routable dataset. |
| 10:30.21 | tsdogs | hmm, so maybe I should port the code from editor plugin (?) |
| 10:30.26 | cr2 | tsdogs: i think that the map generation and the route calculation will be easy, but i have no idea about the gui |
| 10:30.46 | kiozen | cr2: good to hear osm starts to do things right :) |
| 10:30.56 | cr2 | not the editor/, but navigation/ |
| 10:30.58 | tsdogs | gui uses a plugin. it added a few more hooks, but afair it's not very complex |
| 10:31.04 | cr2 | editor is a different things. |
| 10:31.05 | tsdogs | yes |
| 10:31.14 | kiozen | cr2: btw http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot1.png |
| 10:31.28 | cr2 | tsdogs: yes, i need 2 points from the gui, and you'll get the segment list back. |
| 10:31.36 | kiozen | that's what a barometric height correction can do to your track :) |
| 10:32.04 | tsdogs | lol |
| 10:32.15 | cr2 | kiozen: yes. but is costs milliampers. |
| 10:32.17 | tsdogs | I'll have a look and see if it's doable. |
| 10:32.45 | kiozen | cr2: and fscks your result, if you don't calibrate or the weather is turning |
| 10:33.22 | kiozen | cr2: look at the beginning, I started with calibrating it |
| 10:33.32 | kiozen | s/with/without/ |
| 10:33.50 | cr2 | tsdogs: editing is a bit different task, and i'm not sure if the road autogeneration is a really good idea. |
| 10:34.27 | tsdogs | yes, editing is nasty |
| 10:34.42 | cr2 | tsdogs: if you don't have any roads, then it's ok, but to merge changes into a bigger map is a real PITA. |
| 10:35.30 | kiozen | cr2: that one is with calibration :) http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot2.png |
| 10:35.39 | cr2 | tsdogs: change the road name, direction, turn restriction. that's certainly useable. but editor/ tries to do much more. |
| 10:35.58 | tsdogs | well, merkaartor should do :) |
| 10:36.48 | cr2 | tsdogs: it may be too heavy for a 64MB pda. |
| 10:37.29 | kiozen | and it uses splitter views :) |
| 10:37.34 | cr2 | tsdogs: roadmap is nice because it's very lightweight. otherwise you can use navit. |
| 10:38.03 | tsdogs | cr2: ok but you won't change the roads on the PDA... |
| 10:38.05 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, completely unacceptable for a 240x240 pda. |
| 10:38.24 | kiozen | "Merkaartor is developed with a commercial license of the Qt library and is available under the GNU General Public License. Binaries below however are compiler with the open source edition of the same Qt library." |
| 10:38.31 | kiozen | that sounds like OSM :) |
| 10:39.18 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'll certainly prefer to edit the road name, direction and turn restrictions on a pda.- |
| 10:39.27 | cr2 | kiozen: it's pre-qt4.4 |
| 10:40.14 | cr2 | kiozen: he has originally developed it on windows. but other people have added very nice things now. |
| 10:40.15 | tsdogs | cr2: that's ok, also would be nice to record (gpx and voice) while travelling :) |
| 10:40.44 | cr2 | tsdogs: gpx recording is already possible ? it's gpsd after all. |
| 10:40.49 | tsdogs | using sphinx would also be fun :) |
| 10:41.18 | tsdogs | so you edit while u travel |
| 10:41.33 | cr2 | tsdogs: when i click on the map, it says 'selected' on n560 :) |
| 10:42.04 | tsdogs | well that's flite :) |
| 10:42.21 | cr2 | yes |
| 10:44.01 | kiozen | cr2: sound is working ? |
| 10:44.42 | kiozen | but dont think gpx recording is such a good thing to do |
| 10:45.47 | kiozen | cr2: now 82% good on kde-aps.org :) |
| 10:46.12 | cr2 | kiozen: on wince, unfortunately. |
| 10:46.21 | cr2 | kiozen: GT ? |
| 10:48.00 | kiozen | cr2: yes GT http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/QLandkarte+GT?content=77463 |
| 10:48.24 | kiozen | for 240 downloads this is a good value |
| 10:50.19 | cr2 | KDE Scientific :) |
| 10:50.41 | kiozen | cr2: they do not havegis |
| 10:50.49 | cr2 | kiozen: i find the description a bit misleading. |
| 10:51.46 | kiozen | cr2: really, why? |
| 10:52.02 | cr2 | the georeferencing is not mentioned at all. |
| 10:52.28 | jeanseb | Hi |
| 10:52.36 | jeanseb | is there evolution for HTC ? |
| 10:52.37 | kiozen | cr2: hm, yes, it's just a side job :) |
| 10:53.11 | kiozen | btw got a new phone: sony ericson t250i |
| 10:53.22 | kiozen | does it run linux ? ;) |
| 10:53.58 | cr2 | kiozen: if you are positioning it as a geotiff viewer, i'd take qgis, as a more alternative :) |
| 10:54.12 | cr2 | s/more/ more powerful / |
| 10:54.25 | cr2 | hm, don't know. |
| 10:54.40 | kiozen | cr2: qgis fails misserably on large >1GB geotiffs |
| 10:54.41 | tsdogs | jeanseb: depends :) |
| 10:55.20 | cr2 | >1GB geotiff is not nice anyway. |
| 10:55.43 | kiozen | cr2: the less files the larger the better for gdal |
| 10:59.02 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, that's true. |
| 10:59.43 | kiozen | cr2: best to be seen with the vergez map by BabelO |
| 11:00.22 | kiozen | cr2: if you stitsch all files GT will perform much better |
| 11:00.53 | kiozen | the problem of qgis is that it tries to display the complete file after loading |
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| 11:01.08 | kiozen | a really bad idea for large maps :) |
| 11:01.55 | kiozen | and qgis is more scientific, my goal is to do a consumer app that my father is able to use :) |
| 11:07.09 | jeanseb | tsdogs, new image new kernel ? |
| 11:10.03 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, i know. but if i've read only the project description, i'd have taken qgis. that's my point. |
| 11:13.17 | kiozen | cr2: ok :) I try to think of better marketting :) |
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| 11:19.26 | Kougi | hy guys |
| 11:19.28 | Kougi | *hi |
| 11:20.02 | Kougi | is there someone that can help me installing openmoko on a magician? |
| 11:22.05 | Kougi | people? |
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| 11:23.21 | mazze1200 | Kougi: whats your problem ? |
| 11:23.42 | tsdogs | jeanseb: what device? |
| 11:23.49 | jeanseb | HTC |
| 11:23.53 | jeanseb | blueangel |
| 11:24.15 | tsdogs | ho ok, BabelO is the blueangel master :) |
| 11:24.25 | jeanseb | I got bat init problem that prevent me ti use it under linux |
| 11:24.54 | Kougi | mazze1200: i'm on an htc magician, trying to run the openmoko distro, but i got only a white screen after a few lines of boot |
| 11:25.28 | Kougi | mazze1200: trying with Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20071028-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 11:27.34 | mazze1200 | same here, i suggest you use bitbake add to you (build/conf/) local.conf file PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6 = "2.6.19-hh13" |
| 11:29.17 | tsdogs | jeanseb: what image? http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/ ? |
| 11:29.53 | jeanseb | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/ |
| 11:30.04 | jeanseb | seem the same , babelio one |
| 11:31.09 | tsdogs | I know there are issues with boardid 6 for blueangel .. but no more :( |
| 11:37.55 | cr2 | tsdogs: did the _editor version in xanadux CVS work on qtopia ? |
| 11:38.17 | tsdogs | cr2: hmm, don't think so |
| 11:38.37 | tsdogs | but it should work with the qt4 port (no qtopia integration) |
| 11:41.26 | cr2 | tsdogs: yes, qt4 works. |
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| 11:42.31 | tsdogs | cr2: what I mean is that is should build with qtopia qt4 library, and run as a normal app... no idea on how well that works, though adding qtopia target should not be a problem |
| 11:42.51 | cr2 | tsdogs: the only bad thing is that it uses the same directores, but a different stup and binary incompatible maps. |
| 11:42.58 | cr2 | ok. |
| 11:43.38 | BabelO | hi |
| 11:43.42 | tsdogs | cr2: well change unix/roadmap_path.c that should do the trick (that's at leas how I manage to use mainline / xanadux versions) |
| 11:43.46 | tsdogs | hi BabelO |
| 11:44.30 | BabelO | cr2: finally roadmap works on artemis, just a small issue to see the map, it blink on it when i press zoom +/- |
| 11:44.50 | BabelO | cr2: it was memory free problem to start roadmap |
| 11:45.30 | tsdogs | BabelO: a bug? |
| 11:46.42 | BabelO | tsdogs: don't think office word don t start too ... have to desinstall lot of software to get roadmap start |
| 11:47.43 | tsdogs | ho, windows port? then not my issue :) |
| 11:48.12 | cr2 | lol |
| 11:48.27 | cr2 | BabelO: does it autodetect the gps port ? |
| 11:48.41 | Kougi | mazze1200: sry, i was afk, you're telling that by adding this line to my local.conf (openmoko side, of course) the distro will start? |
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| 11:49.20 | cr2 | tsdogs: are you going to merge the mainline changes into xanadux version ? i still see some major differences (style) |
| 11:49.26 | BabelO | cr2: yes it works well and autodetect com4 at 4800 baud |
| 11:50.11 | tsdogs | cr2: with style u mean? |
| 11:51.01 | tsdogs | I thought about merging mainline changes, though |
| 11:51.16 | BabelO | cr2: ok i change storage path, it is ok now |
| 11:53.48 | BabelO | cr2: map orientation is not north ? |
| 11:56.32 | Kougi | mazze1200: had you got any positive result adding that line to local.conf? |
| 11:57.00 | mazze1200 | Kougi now i was afk, are you biulding your image yourself ? |
| 11:57.40 | mazze1200 | Kougi with this (self compiled image) gpe and qtopia boots well |
| 11:58.32 | Kougi | mazze1200: i'm not compiling by myself the image, i'm using the one on http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
| 12:01.19 | jeanseb | BabelO, still nothing about the kernel bug ? |
| 12:01.57 | mazze1200 | Kougi almost every downloaded image didn't worked for me, they have all a high kernel version |
| 12:02.48 | mazze1200 | Kougi but compiling gpe-image isn't (shouldn't) be so hard |
| 12:02.54 | BabelO | jeanseb: no, you have to found your bat id yourself :( |
| 12:03.25 | Kougi | mazze1200, if only i had the sources and some sort of a readme ;P |
| 12:03.46 | Kougi | mazze1200, can u tell me where i can find the sources? |
| 12:05.31 | mazze1200 | Kougi http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/GettingStarted but gpe-image needs >= 10 gb on your hdd an so (!) time |
| 12:05.57 | cr2 | BabelO: should be north, but you can rotate it. |
| 12:06.12 | Kougi | mazze1200, no probs, i've got enough space and time ;) thank you |
| 12:06.26 | cr2 | tsdogs: your qt4 map style changes: fonts, colors, buffering. |
| 12:06.35 | mazze1200 | Kougi np |
| 12:07.00 | tsdogs | cr2: ok that means you want them into mainline :) |
| 12:08.50 | tsdogs | I need to merge mainline and migrate the changes... |
| 12:12.39 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've said Paul about it, and he is "thinking". |
| 12:13.29 | tsdogs | :) I know, I also posted the "changes" I made and he said the same and asked for a patch. But I need to create one first :) |
| 12:13.41 | cr2 | ok. |
| 12:13.58 | tsdogs | cr2: is there a way to create a patch from cvs HEAD to the current state of the repository? |
| 12:14.39 | tsdogs | I mean a patch that gets the changes from HEAD that were applyed after last update of local repo? |
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| 12:18.52 | tsdogs | cr2: never mind |
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| 12:26.01 | pikapika | hi |
| 12:30.07 | Kougi | mazze1200: should i only type "bitbake gpe-image"? |
| 12:30.36 | tsdogs | Kougi: once everything is setup, yes |
| 12:32.17 | Kougi | tsdogs: so, install bitbake, install openembedded, create local.conf, setup envirmonment variables and "bitbake gpe-image"? |
| 12:32.33 | tsdogs | yep |
| 12:32.39 | Kougi | ty |
| 12:33.06 | tsdogs | and plenty of time/bandwidth :) |
| 12:33.36 | Kougi | :) |
| 12:33.56 | mazze1200 | Kougi dont't forget to add PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6 = "2.6.19-hh13" to your local.conf |
| 12:34.08 | Kougi | yeah, ty |
| 12:35.54 | Kougi | and what after building gpe? |
| 12:35.58 | Kougi | what will i get? |
| 12:39.17 | mazze1200 | Kougi you will get a file like tmp/deploy/glibc/images/magician/Angstrom-gpe--image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-*-magician.rootfs.tar |
| 12:39.31 | mazze1200 | or something like this |
| 12:41.24 | Kougi | mazze1200, so all that i need is to tar in /dev/sdb2, right? |
| 12:44.27 | mazze1200 | Kougi what is your /dev/sdb2 ? you schould bitbake on you local hdd an after that change to your sdcard (probably /dev/sdb2) and tar -xvpf </path/to/Angst...> |
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| 12:45.48 | Kougi | mazze1200, /dev/sdb2 is my sd card. Once that i've got the .tar file of the angstrom distro, shouldn't I extract into my sd card? |
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| 12:47.48 | mazze1200 | Kougi yes, something like cd /mnt/sdb2 ; tar -xvpf </path/to/Angstrom-gpe...> |
| 12:48.04 | diogene31 | is away: wife-ing |
| 12:48.24 | mazze1200 | without the <> of course |
| 12:50.19 | Kougi | yeah, right |
| 13:05.19 | mazze1200 | Kougi btw, if you face a problem building the kernel (linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.19-hh13.bb) try to comment out the whole if statement at line 38 in the file org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6.inc |
| 13:06.06 | mazze1200 | bitbake -b linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.19-hh13.bb -c clean && bitbake gpe-image |
| 13:08.05 | Kougi | mmh, ok, thanks, iìll keep it in mind |
| 13:12.39 | tsdogs | cr2: now xanadux should be synced with mainline, probably got in a few changes I did also :) ... |
| 13:17.49 | mazze1200 | kay, i'm away, good luck |
| 13:23.28 | cr2 | tsdogs: committed ? |
| 13:23.35 | tsdogs | cr2: yes |
| 13:26.30 | tsdogs | gg bbl cya |
| 13:39.43 | BabelO | cr2: do you have the i2c decode script ? |
| 13:49.32 | cr2 | BabelO: no, it's too difficult :) |
| 13:50.32 | BabelO | cr2: :( i have the fmradio i2c traces, trying to decode by hand |
| 13:50.41 | cr2 | BabelO: i've written a simple awk script for decoding the ak4641 i2c datastream once.. but it's just some enahanced 'sed' |
| 13:52.01 | BabelO | cr2: it seem si470x need a i2c sequence to power it on |
| 13:52.44 | Kougi | time to compile.... |
| 14:07.26 | cr2 | BabelO: maybe. |
| 14:07.49 | cr2 | BabelO: you have an advantage to have the docs :) |
| 14:10.18 | BabelO | cr2: yes agree :) |
| 14:10.28 | jeanseb | BabelO,cr2 " trying generic ROMID 0xFF for 3rd party large capacity battery ..." do you thing iyt could be a bat id probleme ? |
| 14:10.59 | BabelO | jeanseb: possible |
| 14:11.26 | jeanseb | so if i add the id it may work fine as bat is standart one ! |
| 14:16.30 | cr2 | jeanseb: you can dump the complete eeprom |
| 14:16.44 | jeanseb | cr2, how ? |
| 14:16.46 | cr2 | jeanseb: do you get the battery unique id ? |
| 14:17.09 | cr2 | don't post it here, was just a question :) |
| 14:17.39 | jeanseb | i only got this message |
| 14:17.52 | jeanseb | an i cant grep ROMID in the kernel source |
| 14:18.05 | cr2 | jeanseb: the old ipaq code exported the decoded eeprom to /proc, but i think you'd need to patch the driver now. |
| 14:19.56 | jeanseb | cr2, I got no keyboard (in fact english one so only alph key ) no network (usb problem or just du to no sim card) so i i need to run command i must put them in a shell |
| 14:20.55 | jeanseb | #define ACPI_BATTERY_HID "PNP0C0A" |
| 14:20.55 | jeanseb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.13 | jeanseb | my model is PH26B |
| 14:22.06 | cr2 | jeanseb: ba ? |
| 14:22.31 | jeanseb | cr2, blue angel yes |
| 14:24.53 | BabelO | jeanseb: actual ds2760 family is 30 -> http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/drivers/w1/w1_family.h |
| 14:26.01 | BabelO | jeanseb: you can print your id from here -> http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/drivers/w1/masters/ds1wm.c in function ds1wm_search |
| 14:26.44 | cr2 | jeanseb: the code is heavily restructured now, look at the old ds2760 battery support code. |
| 14:29.03 | jeanseb | like this code dev_dbg(&ds1wm_data->pdev->dev, "found 0x%08llX", rom_id); ? |
| 14:30.45 | BabelO | jeanseb: yes |
| 14:31.03 | jeanseb | so it is already in |
| 14:31.12 | BabelO | jeanseb: yes |
| 14:31.23 | jeanseb | youre image is debug out ? |
| 14:32.29 | jeanseb | ping BabelO |
| 14:32.48 | BabelO | jeanseb: don't think |
| 14:33.14 | BabelO | jeanseb: you have to compile yourself with defconfig |
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| 15:26.40 | cr2 | BabelO: http://www.flylogic.net/blog/ |
| 15:29.27 | BabelO | cr2: i prefer those processor to do quick devel :) |
| 15:30.13 | BabelO | cr2: if you have personnal project to do, a gps device or so, this is http://www.gumstix.com/ |
| 15:32.14 | cr2 | lol |
| 15:32.16 | cr2 | We are not going to explain the details of how to use the UV light to reset the fuse. We have tried to contact Atmel but have not heard anything back from them. |
| 15:44.10 | BabelO | cr2: lot of people these day are working on atmel board, does it allow serial programmation like PIC ? |
| 15:46.56 | cr2 | maybe |
| 15:47.04 | Kougi | wow. i've been compiling for 2 hours and i'm still at task 211/4764 |
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| 15:51.44 | BabelO | ola AlGe |
| 15:51.54 | BabelO | AlGe: your website is down ? |
| 15:52.28 | AlGe | Hi, |
| 15:52.43 | AlGe | It should be up soon again. |
| 15:53.07 | AlGe | My server died on thursday :-( |
| 15:54.06 | AlGe | at least the disk survived :-) |
| 15:55.21 | BabelO | AlGe: ok, jeanseb was looking for a zImage compiled woth ds2760 id debug |
| 15:55.41 | jeanseb | hi AlGe |
| 15:55.50 | AlGe | hi jeanseb |
| 15:57.58 | AlGe | the files you are looking for should be online soon ... but my intermediate webserver is now only a asus wl500gp running lighttpd on openwrt, it may be little bit slow compared to the former died by heat via c7. |
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| 16:01.57 | jeanseb | ok so i don't need to compil it good |
| 16:03.53 | AlGe | It should be online now, please check if you can reach the files |
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| 17:35.19 | okias | Hello, any news about Kaiser? |
| 17:53.33 | marex | okias, good bye, nothing ;) |
| 17:53.44 | marex | okias, long time no see |
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| 17:54.08 | okias | marex: have you jabber? |
| 17:54.13 | marex | yea |
| 17:56.25 | diogene31 | is back |
| 18:33.13 | jeanseb | AlGe, |
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| 18:40.39 | marex | jeanseb, konnichiwa :) |
| 18:40.47 | marex | -_- |
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| 20:14.24 | BabelO | cr2: on i2c bus msb is first ? |
| 20:15.04 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 20:15.20 | cr2 | isn't it a 1byte bus ? |
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| 20:19.38 | BabelO | cr2: i ve word write on omap i2c register |
| 20:23.46 | cr2 | ok, but then you'll send byte by byte |
| 20:26.38 | diogene31 | cr2: Yep, i2c is 1byte bus, you're right on that. |
| 20:28.06 | BabelO | cr2, diogene31 so first decvice to speak adress need to be sent , then command |
| 20:28.21 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:28.38 | cr2 | i2c address, then data. maybe several bytes. |
| 20:29.03 | cr2 | diogene31: i think there is some 10bit extension, but i've never seen that. |
| 20:30.49 | diogene31 | cr2: [Start sequence] + [Slave address (7bits)] + Ack + [Read/Write (1bit)] + Ack + ([Data (8bits)] + Ack) n.times + [Stop sequence] |
| 20:31.06 | diogene31 | cr2: For the 10bit, I've never seen that one either. |
| 20:32.56 | BabelO | diogene31, cr2 here is the omap register data http://pastebin.ca/1035250 |
| 20:36.08 | diogene31 | BabelO: What is the OMAP talking to and how is the OMAP register designed (are there control bits in there, is the data mapped on lower 8bits, ...) ? |
| 20:38.05 | BabelO | diogene31: omap register read is here http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-omap.c;h=805ab6811a2fae123d9558a62d4246f024238b43;hb=20c7a1797297ef019180c4134cc4b9d2a257b0e4 |
| 20:38.20 | BabelO | on other side this dialog is from fm radio power on |
| 20:38.38 | BabelO | diogene31: datasheet here http://www.silabs.com/public/documents/tpub_doc/dsheet/Broadcast/Radio_Tuners/en/Si4702-03-C19.pdf |
| 20:43.23 | diogene31 | BabelO: From the OMAP code, you can read from I2C bus only byte by byte, but you can write one byte or one word. In the case you write a word(u16), 2 bytes will be sent other the bus. |
| 20:43.55 | diogene31 | BabelO: You can see in your traces that all reads are 8 bits wide, and writes are 8bits or 16bits wide. |
| 20:44.38 | BabelO | diogene31: yes that is what i see too, but still don't understand what they send , is it like that or reversed ? |
| 20:44.47 | diogene31 | In the u16 case, the lower 8bits are sent first, then the higher 8bits. |
| 20:45.11 | diogene31 | BabelO: example: you write 0xbabe => 0xbe is sent first, then 0xba. |
| 20:45.14 | BabelO | ok, so that's what i look, so it don't mach the fm radio doc :( |
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| 20:52.31 | jeanseb | AlGe, what the url ? |
| 20:52.40 | AlGe | hi, |
| 20:53.06 | AlGe | www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images/ |
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| 20:55.23 | cr2 | BabelO: little-endian. unlike the spi. |
| 20:56.11 | cr2 | AlGe: reflash.ctl ? |
| 20:56.28 | BabelO | cr2: automatically generaated by OE |
| 20:56.37 | BabelO | cr2: ok little endian |
| 20:56.53 | cr2 | BabelO: are there any 2byte controls in the datasheet ? |
| 20:57.03 | cr2 | BabelO: the addresses are all 1byte |
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| 20:58.01 | sigma_1234 | any linux for the htc s310? |
| 20:58.25 | cr2 | sigma_1234: cpu ? |
| 20:59.45 | AlGe | cr2: s310 is omap 850 |
| 20:59.46 | BabelO | cr2: ok found :) |
| 21:00.06 | sigma_1234 | think its a arm. hang on il check |
| 21:00.46 | cr2 | ok, then it's probably similar to wizard |
| 21:01.00 | sigma_1234 | mine says arm 926e. running at 180mhz |
| 21:01.04 | cr2 | artemis seems to be very special high-end device. |
| 21:01.08 | BabelO | cr2: An internal address counter automatically increments to allow continuous data byte writes, starting with the upper byte of register 02h, followed by the lower byte of register 02h, and onward until the lower byte of the last register is reached. |
| 21:01.53 | cr2 | sigma_1234: pdadb says omap850. they have errors, but not such big. |
| 21:02.06 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 21:02.09 | sigma_1234 | cr2: so any hope for me? im sick of wm. its the only ms thing i have left |
| 21:02.25 | cr2 | sigma_1234: try to run the wizard kernel |
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| 21:05.41 | sigma_1234 | cr2: is that a full gui? |
| 21:06.47 | cr2 | yes, but you may have different keyboard layout, key mapping, lcd timings and so on. |
| 21:08.06 | sigma_1234 | so its a full wm replacement? with edge internet etc? |
| 21:09.11 | sigma_1234 | oh whats the site address for it? |
| 21:09.42 | miknix | sigma_1234, http://linwizard.sourceforge.net |
| 21:09.46 | cr2 | sigma_1234: of course not. only universal is more of less close. |
| 21:09.56 | cr2 | s/of /or / |
| 21:10.25 | miknix | sigma_1234, dont expect it to fully replace wm5 |
| 21:11.34 | cr2 | miknix: i think many people simply forget that there are no documentation, and no support from htc. and for the omap/msm cpus there are even no cpu docs. |
| 21:13.46 | cr2 | BabelO: "Android Dream has built-in compass for Google Streetview" |
| 21:13.58 | cr2 | BabelO: do they mean the accelerometer ? |
| 21:14.24 | miknix | cr2, HTC is now part of the open handset alliance: http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html , I wonder what happens if we ask for support. Afterall these devices are no longer their bleeding edge products |
| 21:15.23 | BabelO | cr2: don't think, i read somewhere that google android discuss with big provider like orange, vodafone, to be able to localise phone user from emiter... maybe it is a dgps for mobile ? |
| 21:15.54 | miknix | cr2, BabelO yes, its an accelerometer |
| 21:15.56 | cr2 | miknix: the same as if you'll ask google about the 60cm/pix imagery. they'll tell you that it's not that their data to share. one can learn something from openmoko |
| 21:16.33 | BabelO | miknix: why accelerometer can be usefull for streetviw ? |
| 21:16.49 | miknix | BabelO, for panning/rotating the view |
| 21:16.59 | cr2 | miknix: athena also has an accelerometer. btw, the same as moko2. |
| 21:17.34 | cr2 | so it's highly likely that the dream has it too. |
| 21:17.45 | cr2 | now where do i get the dream rom ? :) |
| 21:17.46 | BabelO | miknix: ah yes :) |
| 21:19.22 | sigma_1234 | oh so the linux runs on top of the windows mobile? |
| 21:20.06 | miknix | no.. linux replaces windows mobile during execution |
| 21:20.58 | sigma_1234 | so if i install it will i lose my windows mobile install? |
| 21:21.39 | miknix | no, the replacement is on RAM |
| 21:22.28 | sigma_1234 | ah i see |
| 21:22.49 | sigma_1234 | so it cant really damage anything? |
| 21:23.27 | miknix | well.. there is always the case of your device getting hit by a meteorite |
| 21:23.40 | cr2 | LOL |
| 21:23.45 | sigma_1234 | lol |
| 21:23.56 | miknix | :) |
| 21:24.22 | cr2 | sigma_1234: by a linux meteorite :) |
| 21:25.10 | sigma_1234 | htc should just make a linux os. its such a huge co. nokia may beat them to it with the aquisition of trolltech |
| 21:26.08 | cr2 | there is only one known case of a device being killed while testing linux. |
| 21:26.25 | BabelO | cr2: ? pH5 ? |
| 21:26.31 | miknix | cr2, really? what was it? |
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| 21:26.48 | cr2 | it's my old unversal. but even with that device it's not 100% clear if linux is guilty. |
| 21:27.19 | sigma_1234 | what happened to it? |
| 21:27.48 | cr2 | i've mixed the phone reset gpio with the IR power. |
| 21:27.59 | miknix | I think microsoft put some wm5 countermeasure to brick the device if linux is going in |
| 21:28.11 | miknix | :p |
| 21:28.24 | sigma_1234 | rats im running wm5 |
| 21:28.27 | cr2 | after some linux testing , it didn'T want to boot wince. maybe the phone part was very confused or so. |
| 21:28.41 | cr2 | the cpu itself and ram were ok. |
| 21:28.53 | cr2 | i could start the htc spl. |
| 21:28.56 | miknix | cr2, the bootloader was still booting? |
| 21:28.59 | miknix | oh |
| 21:29.12 | sigma_1234 | ms should get out of the water if it cant take the heat |
| 21:29.27 | miknix | sigma_1234, I was kidding .p |
| 21:29.31 | cr2 | the motherbaord was replaced, but it seems to be a standard procedure. |
| 21:29.49 | cr2 | in such case |
| 21:30.09 | cr2 | i don't make such mistakes anymore :) |
| 21:30.28 | miknix | cr2, that doesnt seem to be a big mistake to me |
| 21:31.03 | miknix | at least I was the one that was writting randomly to the i2c bus to "see" what happens |
| 21:31.04 | miknix | lol |
| 21:31.53 | cr2 | miknix: after disassembling the htc IR driver, i've found out that they use gpio125 for IR enable on pxa270. which does not exist according to intel's docs. |
| 21:33.33 | miknix | even so I find it very hard to brick your device by misusing gpios |
| 21:33.59 | miknix | or I am a very lucky person |
| 21:34.15 | cr2 | the phone may have been defective, and didn't like often reboots. |
| 21:35.05 | miknix | cr2, so were you able to take some photos to the board? |
| 21:35.31 | cr2 | it was already done before. |
| 21:35.58 | cr2 | the story was long ago. |
| 21:36.14 | cr2 | we know a lot about the htc devices since that. |
| 21:36.24 | miknix | cr2, I'm looking for jtag ports, do you know if htc devices have one on the board? |
| 21:37.18 | cr2 | yes, the himalaya and universal jtag ports are known. maybe others too, i don't know. |
| 21:37.40 | miknix | cr2, I have a photo of wizard board if you want to have a look |
| 21:38.14 | cr2 | miknix: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_JTAG |
| 21:38.17 | miknix | cr2, there is also an backup battery plug on the wizard board, I wonder for what |
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| 21:38.52 | cr2 | miknix: fo debugging probably |
| 21:39.26 | cr2 | miknix: even the debugging card mapping and code is preserved in the htc firmware. |
| 21:42.31 | miknix | damn.. that jtag pins are very very deep on the board.. one needs to open almost everything to get to it |
| 21:42.38 | BabelO | or maybe for wizard that can be sold with wm3, maybe they have planned that before start |
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| 21:44.59 | AstainHellbring | Hiya I have a question for anyone willing to answer a few things |
| 21:48.23 | miknix | new google symbol is ugly |
| 21:48.46 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: about htc-linux ? |
| 21:49.07 | cr2 | miknix: where ? are you using google ? |
| 21:49.09 | AstainHellbring | a bit about some oddities I'm having with haret |
| 21:49.24 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: on which device ? |
| 21:49.31 | AstainHellbring | axim x51v |
| 21:49.34 | miknix | cr2, http://www.google.com/favicon.ico |
| 21:49.57 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: it's a pxa27x device, haret should be working ok. |
| 21:49.59 | AstainHellbring | it may be my custom kernel thats having the issue too... |
| 21:50.26 | AstainHellbring | when I turn mirror mode on on the device haret seems to freeze at the 100% ish mark |
| 21:50.49 | cr2 | miknix: yeah. |
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| 21:51.41 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: you reach the gogogo stage with earlyharetlog.txt ? |
| 21:51.59 | AstainHellbring | yes |
| 21:52.10 | cr2 | then it's a kernel problem. |
| 21:52.31 | cr2 | most likely. |
| 21:52.39 | AstainHellbring | ok thats what I was guessing, is there any good way to see the kernel panics etc through haret? |
| 21:52.54 | cr2 | do you have a serial cable ? |
| 21:53.20 | AstainHellbring | not yet... will have cradle with serial connection from it later this week I think |
| 21:53.46 | cr2 | ok, then it'll be easy. look at asm/uncompress.h |
| 21:54.05 | cr2 | you may use IR, but it's a bit more involved. |
| 21:54.34 | AstainHellbring | ok |
| 21:55.33 | AstainHellbring | one other question what progress has been made on card reading on the msm chipset? |
| 21:55.49 | cr2 | BabelO: did you get a reply from the si47xx people ? |
| 21:56.03 | BabelO | cr2: no , nothing |
| 21:56.37 | BabelO | cr2: i send the mail the 27 May |
| 21:56.44 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: i don't know about 7500 where it's traceable, but on 7200 they get a timeout in android kernel code. |
| 21:56.50 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 21:57.42 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: it's possible to check if NAND works, but it's a more tricky thing. SD would have been better. |
| 21:58.06 | AstainHellbring | yah i've heard that nand works |
| 21:59.43 | cr2 | BabelO: http://www.dvhardware.net/article27538.html |
| 22:02.00 | BabelO | cr2: yes :) that is the power :) |
| 22:02.08 | cr2 | BabelO: i'll think to do the same :) |
| 22:02.35 | cr2 | pfui. |
| 22:02.37 | cr2 | Windows XP 64-bit |
| 22:03.00 | BabelO | cr2: they buy gefore not tesla unit, but works it seem |
| 22:03.21 | BabelO | cr2: yes xp 64 that is the error :) |
| 22:03.55 | miknix | cr2, I saw that on /. |
| 22:04.34 | miknix | my laptop has a GF8 and I have cuda installed, but no ideas for it |
| 22:04.40 | BabelO | cr2: AGEIA PhysX support |
| 22:04.47 | AstainHellbring | cr2 any idea how I could play with linux or android by installing root fs to nand? |
| 22:05.00 | BabelO | miknix: yes i use cuda since i have my new computer :) |
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| 22:05.40 | miknix | BabelO, their new C syntax gives a lot of abstraction |
| 22:05.42 | miknix | I like it |
| 22:06.38 | miknix | specially the way we can call a function to be applied on a matrix and how it is handled by GPU cores and pipelines |
| 22:06.40 | BabelO | don't understand why xp 64 |
| 22:06.59 | BabelO | miknix: is the bug of the 5s removed now ? |
| 22:07.04 | miknix | BabelO, in what are you using cuda? |
| 22:07.17 | miknix | BabelO, never heard of 5s bug |
| 22:07.21 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: if you'll repartition the nand. you can put angdstrom/debian there. |
| 22:07.47 | cr2 | BabelO: the people who can't do cooling right, may use xp too ;-) |
| 22:07.49 | BabelO | miknix: if you use your card as master graphic card you are limited by fonction running |
| 22:08.25 | miknix | BabelO, how so? |
| 22:08.26 | BabelO | miknix: image cleaning and some compression stuff |
| 22:08.33 | miknix | hum.. |
| 22:09.06 | AstainHellbring | cr2: that would take a new spl on device right? |
| 22:11.05 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: no. you'll just mount the rootfs off nand, after booting with haret |
| 22:11.25 | cr2 | i wish we could do it on g3/g4 |
| 22:12.05 | AstainHellbring | right I was saying for the repartition of nand would that take anything special? |
| 22:12.56 | cr2 | BabelO: 1.5kW PSU :) |
| 22:14.00 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: i don't know the NAND layout on msm7x00's, but you just need to free some contiguous block. |
| 22:14.29 | cr2 | BabelO: that thing must be really loud. |
| 22:14.32 | BabelO | cr2: lol maybe under 4000 eur but electric invoice .....;; |
| 22:15.10 | AstainHellbring | ok I've not played with anything like that so how would I go about repartioning the nand? |
| 22:15.16 | cr2 | BabelO: yeah, don't use it at home. |
| 22:15.36 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: you'd find out the NAND layout first. |
| 22:15.53 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: hehe. i don't know it even for hermes ;-) |
| 22:16.17 | BabelO | good night, wake up earlier tomorrow |
| 22:16.23 | cr2 | good night |
| 22:16.51 | AstainHellbring | ok |
| 22:18.06 | cr2 | AstainHellbring: you may try the raw disk read from itsutils |
| 22:18.18 | cr2 | but they may fail |
| 22:18.31 | cr2 | i've tried them on P4225 |
| 22:18.56 | cr2 | the partition layout is shown, but i could not read the actual data blocks. |
| 22:19.06 | AstainHellbring | ok |
| 22:19.40 | cr2 | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GoPalP4225 |
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