| 00:12.56 | Pryan | reinicia en windows, nos vemos mañana |
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| 02:03.32 | mistadman | Can any one take a look at this? :http://www.mnementh.co.uk/eseries/docs/imageon/lcd_rotate.html |
| 02:07.45 | mistadman | Where is everyone? |
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| 05:46.34 | marbalon | dcordes: ping |
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| 06:48.06 | kiozen | BableO: I have got a request for the nsi installer of GT |
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| 08:44.41 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 08:45.01 | kiozen | salut |
| 08:45.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: :( i ve a new error on my home computer, |
| 08:45.30 | mistadman | Hello! |
| 08:45.32 | BabelO_ | ata3.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen |
| 08:46.02 | BabelO_ | kiozen: last time it was an irq issue on tv card, and now, this one |
| 08:46.22 | kiozen | BabelO_: yuck sound like harddrive gives up |
| 08:46.58 | mistadman | What does the "size" column refer to on: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaMemoryMap |
| 08:48.19 | BabelO_ | kiozen: don't think so, it is on all harddrive at same time |
| 08:48.39 | kiozen | BabelO_: bad cable with interference? |
| 08:49.17 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no it just appear yesturday, on all disk at same time, lot of people have this one it seem |
| 08:49.33 | kiozen | uh oh, board? |
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| 08:53.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it seem my suse have done an automatic upgrade of libata :( i ve to remove that |
| 08:53.59 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i set upgrade every sunday at 3:00pm |
| 08:55.02 | kiozen | BabelO_: hehe, SuSE update destroyed itself a few days ago :) so I am lucky |
| 08:55.42 | BabelO_ | lol |
| 08:56.21 | kiozen | It tries to mount the DVD and failes for obvious reasons |
| 08:57.16 | kiozen | but better a broken update as broken hw |
| 08:59.28 | kiozen | BableO: btw I have got a request for the nsi installer of GT |
| 08:59.51 | BabelO_ | kiozen: which one ? |
| 09:00.34 | kiozen | BabelO: to install GT you have to be root and |
| 09:00.52 | kiozen | BabelO_: if you do a clean setup you are root, not user |
| 09:01.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: however in this case the prog. icons won't show up for users |
| 09:01.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah, so have to change the HKLM to HKCU ? |
| 09:01.56 | BabelO_ | the prog icon ? |
| 09:02.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: ah :) always wondered what that means |
| 09:02.10 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes |
| 09:02.48 | kiozen | BabelO_: it was a thing reported by a user last Thurstday |
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| 09:48.24 | Babel1 | kiozen: so registering in Current User instead of local machine can solve this problem, but i dont understand why the icon is affected by that |
| 09:49.02 | kiozen | Babel1: no as user without admin privileges you can't install |
| 09:49.27 | kiozen | Babel1: as admin you can, but the icon is installed locally to admin |
| 09:49.38 | kiozen | Babel1: instead to all users |
| 09:50.41 | Babel1 | kiozen: ahh :) i'll look for both, i see the icon here, so need to check |
| 09:55.19 | BabelO_ | kiozen: about the line detection and others thing, i have some part of code, how do you want to proceed with the colour / grey level ? |
| 09:55.53 | kiozen | color / greylevel? |
| 09:58.16 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes for the convertion , btw i ve made some test with gocr, it looks good, maybe the Google OCR can do better |
| 09:59.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: still don't understand what you mean. sorry :) |
| 09:59.59 | BabelO_ | kiozen: to add the line detection functionnality in GT, i need to convert colored image into grey level, easy way for me is to include Imagemagick header, but i don't like this idea :( |
| 10:00.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: ahhh, now ... sorry I am a bit dense today :) |
| 10:01.05 | kiozen | BabelO_: does QT QImage provide such stuff? |
| 10:03.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: what about QImage::convertToFormat() ? |
| 10:08.38 | BabelO_ | kiozen: have to check :) |
| 10:15.25 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it seem i can do with it |
| 10:26.42 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so people are already testing GT ? |
| 10:26.52 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i did not see in mailing list |
| 10:27.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: no GT mailing list sofar |
| 10:27.44 | kiozen | but there are some geocachers |
| 10:27.45 | kiozen | and QLandkarte users I have private contact |
| 10:27.49 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :) i can do a real test with artemis soon, just need track recording ;) |
| 10:28.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes I know, but no sense to that without a device, to test SD memory performance and handling |
| 10:29.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: Artemis is very fast with linux :) even with the 201 Mhz cpu and 64Mb of memory |
| 10:30.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: I am currious how GDAL will perform |
| 10:31.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes me too, have to try, on Blueangel it looks good but 128Mb and 400Mhz cpu |
| 10:32.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: M does not move the map with every new coord. it just moves it if the cursor leaves an inner box |
| 10:32.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: thus the cpu shouldn't be too much stressed |
| 10:32.58 | kiozen | BabelO_: slippy map might be a bit slow |
| 10:33.16 | BabelO_ | i 've to try my big map |
| 10:33.31 | kiozen | however on such a small screen it shouldn't be too bad |
| 10:34.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: size shouldn't matter ;) |
| 10:35.35 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i m really close with my spi driver to get touchscreen, buti ve one thing i don't understand |
| 10:35.58 | BabelO_ | have to ask cr2 or pH5 when available |
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| 11:26.56 | dcordes | marbalon: pong! |
| 11:28.06 | marbalon | dcordes: could you fwd me e-mail witch smd description ? |
| 11:29.22 | marbalon | dcordes: i read yesterday logs and dzo send you some smd info |
| 11:33.35 | dcordes | yes I had the same result like you with those descriptions |
| 11:33.54 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/5BvQ8Z53.html |
| 11:34.12 | dcordes | marbalon: better work with kaiser-smd.c in git. Not with msm-7x00.c |
| 11:34.37 | dcordes | the one in git already has some improvements from dzo |
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| 11:37.59 | zoolooc | hi folks |
| 11:45.02 | dcordes | marbalon: you can read with this from the modem but won't be able to write to it |
| 11:46.26 | marbalon | marbalon: yes, I know |
| 11:47.05 | dcordes | check the logs and see what I tried (changed m2a numbers) |
| 11:47.18 | dcordes | 0-17 all didn't work |
| 11:47.25 | dcordes | brb |
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| 12:08.11 | dcordes | marbalon: compiled with new descriptions? |
| 12:09.47 | marbalon | dcordes: I'm at work now, I will try in free time |
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| 13:19.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: just changing remaining HKLM to HKCU should work |
| 13:19.35 | kiozen | BabelO: I will try later, thanks |
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| 14:40.27 | tcccp | hi there! |
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| 14:41.22 | dcordes | hi tcccp |
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| 14:46.49 | tcccp | Is there any "official" gnuharet website? The latest image I found is gnuharet-200607110000.exe and I think this one might not be the latest |
| 14:47.58 | dcordes | you're right. http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=kevin/haret.git;a=summary to get the latest and greatest code |
| 14:48.08 | tcccp | :) |
| 14:48.13 | dcordes | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET "official" website |
| 14:48.27 | dcordes | http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ builds |
| 14:49.00 | tcccp | Thank you so much. I need to get that nasty WinCE killed on my pda |
| 14:49.06 | dcordes | what's your pda? |
| 14:49.10 | tcccp | hw6915 |
| 14:50.06 | dcordes | it's the sable |
| 14:50.30 | tcccp | right |
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| 14:55.15 | tcccp | dcordes: The WinCE knows it's subject of deletion. At the moment it's running like WinME rather than CE |
| 14:56.04 | dcordes | You won't be able to entirely get rid of it since you depend on its presence as bootloader |
| 14:56.12 | tcccp | Thats ok |
| 14:56.18 | tcccp | I have a 2GB miniSD chip |
| 14:57.26 | dcordes | sable even does have to sd slots, doesn't it? |
| 14:58.04 | tcccp | hm? I can't tell. thought the hw6915 was Disk-on-Chip |
| 14:58.10 | tcccp | plus the miniSD slot |
| 14:58.33 | dcordes | s/to/two/ |
| 14:58.58 | tcccp | no plan |
| 14:59.08 | tcccp | I haven't disassembled my 6915 yet ;) |
| 14:59.25 | tcccp | The next ~smartphone I'm going to disassemble will be the OGO |
| 14:59.33 | tcccp | And I wouldn't call it that smart |
| 14:59.54 | cr2 | dcordes: beetles has 2 slots, sable only the miniSD |
| 15:00.08 | tcccp | hmm |
| 15:00.17 | tcccp | hmmmmm |
| 15:00.31 | dcordes | cr2: got them twisted |
| 15:00.56 | tcccp | That looks about...crashed |
| 15:01.08 | dcordes | cr2: did you see the conversation witz dzo about the kaiser send buffer issue? |
| 15:01.21 | dcordes | with |
| 15:02.13 | cr2 | dcordes: btw, in wiki you write that channel1 and 2 are used by the phone. |
| 15:02.47 | cr2 | tcccp: the sable kernel boots last i've tried. |
| 15:03.06 | cr2 | tcccp: but you'll have to do some work because of the 240x240 screen. |
| 15:03.07 | tcccp | cr2: Which one? I have built one myself - but w/o any arch-related patches |
| 15:03.24 | cr2 | tcccp: the htcsable_defconfig in hh.org CVS |
| 15:03.44 | tcccp | narf |
| 15:03.49 | cr2 | tcccp: you need to decide which userspace image you'll use. |
| 15:04.03 | tcccp | I ALWAYS end up at "happy hearts" not "handhelds" when someone types hh.org |
| 15:04.08 | tcccp | cr2: mine |
| 15:04.22 | tcccp | I need this iPaq to have phone calls |
| 15:04.33 | tcccp | And I haven't seen any images doing telephony yet |
| 15:04.51 | cr2 | we are "happy hearts" about linux handhelds/phones too :) it's an old joke. |
| 15:05.30 | cr2 | tcccp: Marex did some work on the phone side of beetles/sable |
| 15:05.30 | tcccp | me needs to get "HH" != "Handhelds" inked somewhere |
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| 15:05.48 | cr2 | tcccp: the rest should work as is. |
| 15:05.52 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:06.32 | tcccp | The tattoo guy will certainly call me nuts but.. |
| 15:07.11 | dcordes | cr2: you mean in kaiser irq? |
| 15:09.34 | tcccp | WOW? |
| 15:09.47 | tcccp | the HH ARM-Cluster kicks ass |
| 15:09.58 | cr2 | dcordes: yes |
| 15:11.04 | dcordes | cr2: I don't quite get the connetion between the irqs and the fifo |
| 15:11.19 | dcordes | I know in smd.c we set an m2a value (tried 0-17 there) |
| 15:11.28 | dcordes | where 3 is obviously the right one |
| 15:11.29 | cr2 | dcordes: it's in the name |
| 15:11.45 | dcordes | what name? |
| 15:12.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.20 | dcordes | I know I wrote this |
| 15:12.44 | cr2 | yes. so the interrupt numbers are known. |
| 15:12.58 | tcccp | greetings from lkcl to noel ph5, BabelO and everyone he might have forgotten ;) |
| 15:13.40 | cr2 | tcccp: should i compile the linload.exe for sable ? |
| 15:14.05 | cr2 | tcccp: have you decided what image do you want to run ? |
| 15:14.07 | dcordes | cr2: it's a bit confusing. What is the 3 I set in kaiser-smd? |
| 15:14.43 | cr2 | dcordes: i didn't look at kaiser-smd in detail, and it does not have very many comments. |
| 15:15.27 | cr2 | dcordes: you you get some M2A irq with gps on ? |
| 15:15.38 | dcordes | never tried |
| 15:15.45 | dcordes | can do later |
| 15:15.50 | tcccp | cr2: I think it's not gnuharet's fault that the kernel doesn't boot as I have built mine from vanilla sources. I'd like to build one from HH cvn before disturbing anyone helping me ;) |
| 15:16.27 | cr2 | tcccp: ok. the kernel is of course from handhelds.org CVS |
| 15:16.56 | tcccp | cr2: I'm already looking where to sync it - I have qemu-system-arm here with Debian to build the kernel |
| 15:17.20 | cr2 | tcccp: you can use the crosscompile toolchain |
| 15:17.43 | tcccp | cr2: failed to often building one ;) |
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| 15:18.56 | cr2 | tcccp: Cross Toolchain at http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php |
| 15:19.39 | cr2 | http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/arm920t-eabi-ficgta01-toolchain.tgz |
| 15:19.47 | tcccp | ah, thx |
| 15:19.57 | miknix | tcccp, qemu-arm is slow |
| 15:20.07 | tcccp | miknix: yes - unfortunately |
| 15:20.33 | miknix | I think my wizard is quicker.. but it has less ram though :p |
| 15:20.40 | tcccp | miknix: compiling a kernel isn't that slow. I have built Gentoo Stage I on a 500MHz G3 processor already ;) |
| 15:20.47 | tcccp | So I'm used to pain |
| 15:21.38 | majorburn | ahhh, yes, the linux users' mentra |
| 15:21.40 | majorburn | manrra |
| 15:21.42 | majorburn | mantra |
| 15:21.49 | cr2 | lol |
| 15:21.56 | miknix | tcccp, my home server is a pentium 133 with 42mb ram. you might not believe the time it takes to build the kernel |
| 15:22.04 | tcccp | miknix: I do |
| 15:22.20 | tcccp | miknix: I have started using computers with ... less speed/memory ;) |
| 15:22.31 | tcccp | I think it was 4MHz/128k |
| 15:22.35 | miknix | : o |
| 15:22.41 | cr2 | miknix: lol |
| 15:22.43 | tcccp | aka Amstrad CPC6128 |
| 15:22.49 | miknix | even my casio calculator has more clock speed |
| 15:23.02 | miknix | or my MSX basic |
| 15:23.08 | tcccp | My sharp pc-1500 has 4MHz also I think |
| 15:23.17 | tcccp | I use to call it my 80's PDA |
| 15:23.25 | miknix | :) |
| 15:23.32 | cr2 | miknix: compiling the kernel on 80386 25MHz and 4MB RAM was a pain ;) |
| 15:23.48 | tcccp | hm |
| 15:23.49 | miknix | didnt know it was possible |
| 15:24.07 | Napfton | thx cr2 |
| 15:24.08 | tcccp | What a pity there's no relyable linux for my DEC Rainbow |
| 15:24.16 | tcccp | reliable %) |
| 15:24.29 | Napfton | cr2: when will this marex guy be back again? |
| 15:24.51 | dcordes | he is in studying land where I'm also at now. bye |
| 15:25.23 | tcccp | ieks |
| 15:25.31 | tcccp | there are graphical frontends for cvs |
| 15:25.58 | tcccp | Ctrl+Alt+Bck |
| 15:26.48 | Napfton | bye |
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| 15:30.14 | cr2 | tcccp: rainbow is 80286 ? it's a pity DEC didn't want to create a minivax in the same box :) |
| 15:30.33 | tcccp | erm |
| 15:30.45 | tcccp | Rainbows should be ~8088 or 8086 |
| 15:31.02 | tcccp | At least my 100A |
| 15:31.03 | majorburn | eh, use minix then |
| 15:31.12 | tcccp | majorburn: I have it to run CP/M |
| 15:31.27 | cr2 | miknix: it was running xfree86-2.1, fvwm and mosaic. so linux was usable even at that time. |
| 15:31.59 | cr2 | tcccp: how much ram you you have in rainbow ? |
| 15:32.18 | tcccp | cr2: no plan - I'm missing a db25->db9 converter O:-) |
| 15:32.30 | tcccp | Otherwise I'd use it as vt100 terminal ;) |
| 15:32.31 | majorburn | tcccp: nice. i had an ibm ps/2 8088 as a telnet and web server with minix |
| 15:32.38 | majorburn | i had an ibm ps/2 286 running smtp and pop for my mail server |
| 15:33.17 | cr2 | tcccp: you have the weird 400K dec floppy disks too ? |
| 15:33.29 | majorburn | actually i think the 8088 is just the 'ibm xt' |
| 15:33.36 | majorburn | I just love saying ps/2 |
| 15:33.36 | tcccp | cr2: I have a full height dual 5.25" floppy drive |
| 15:33.57 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot1.png and http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot2.png |
| 15:34.08 | kiozen | guess which one is the mustek scanner |
| 15:34.53 | cr2 | tcccp: pro 350 with 8" floppy drive was weird too |
| 15:35.01 | cr2 | kiozen: the right one ? |
| 15:35.12 | kiozen | :))) you won |
| 15:35.21 | cr2 | kiozen: looks very glossy to me |
| 15:35.23 | tcccp | The only machine I had with 8" floppies was my IBM AS/400 B50 |
| 15:35.38 | kiozen | big difference to the canon, and the cannon was a cheap one too |
| 15:36.00 | miknix | cr2, where is the mmc card reader connected? MPU? |
| 15:36.00 | cr2 | tcccp: but pro 350 had a nice non-intel cpu and could run bsd. |
| 15:36.18 | cr2 | miknix: on wizard ? |
| 15:36.21 | tcccp | cr2: bsd nowadays even runs on toasters |
| 15:36.22 | miknix | cr2, yes |
| 15:37.03 | cr2 | tcccp: it was the time when the real men wrote device drivers in assembler. |
| 15:37.16 | miknix | tcccp, lol |
| 15:37.41 | tcccp | miknix: That's not a joke |
| 15:37.44 | miknix | tcccp, can it draw little devils on the toasts? |
| 15:37.52 | tcccp | There's a toaster with embedded device around in the interwebz |
| 15:37.59 | cr2 | tcccp: but i wish somebody produced the DEC-style documentation these days ;) |
| 15:38.22 | tcccp | cr2: Looking at my shelve...I have enough books from digital press here |
| 15:38.30 | tcccp | cr2: "X WINDOW SYSTEM" for example |
| 15:38.44 | tcccp | "Writing OpenVMS Alpha Device Drivers in C" |
| 15:38.50 | cr2 | tcccp: i still must have the 2 pdp-11 books with schematics at home :) |
| 15:38.53 | tcccp | "VAX/VMS Operating System Concepts" |
| 15:38.59 | cr2 | tcccp: OSF/1 here |
| 15:39.03 | tcccp | "Writing real programs in DCL" |
| 15:39.17 | tcccp | VMS 7.3 VAX, VMS 8.3 Alpha here ;) |
| 15:39.26 | cr2 | dos was a PITA after dcl |
| 15:39.43 | tcccp | But I can go back to vms 5.4 vax if I need to |
| 15:40.06 | tcccp | 5.4, 5.5, 6.0, 6.1 is on standby as simh machine |
| 15:40.07 | cr2 | tcccp: still need to check netbsd on 4000 model 60 |
| 15:40.14 | tcccp | cr2: yuk ;) |
| 15:40.17 | cr2 | tcccp: on tk50 tapes ? |
| 15:40.27 | tcccp | My VAXstation 4000 is not going to boot bsd |
| 15:40.32 | majorburn | how about boot lsd |
| 15:40.32 | tcccp | not as long as it's mine |
| 15:40.38 | tcccp | majorburn: thc here ;) |
| 15:40.57 | majorburn | OH MY GOD |
| 15:40.59 | majorburn | YOU SAID THC |
| 15:41.13 | tcccp | majorburn: Am I subject of arrestment now? |
| 15:41.32 | majorburn | are the subject of my insanity |
| 15:41.44 | tcccp | majorburn: Thank god you're not as paranoid as I am |
| 15:42.09 | majorburn | says who |
| 15:42.20 | tcccp | majorburn: Do you set up trip wires when leaving your home for more than 6hrs? |
| 15:42.31 | majorburn | how about never leaving... |
| 15:42.46 | tcccp | majorburn: well...makes you not missing the show when they come for you |
| 15:43.09 | majorburn | I'm too apathetic to be paranoid |
| 15:43.19 | tcccp | I'm too paranoid being something else |
| 15:43.31 | tcccp | But in germay we don't need crypted disks. |
| 15:43.40 | tcccp | JFS is enough crypto for the german justice dept. |
| 15:44.14 | majorburn | hah |
| 15:44.28 | tcccp | majorburn: There were times where ext2 was a real problem for them lamers |
| 15:45.19 | tcccp | hm |
| 15:45.29 | tcccp | I'd love to see them choke on an ODS-5 filesystem :) |
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| 15:49.35 | tcccp | hm |
| 15:49.44 | majorburn | I bet they'd shit themselves over ZFS |
| 15:49.58 | tcccp | I need to install simh on that pda once working O:-) |
| 15:50.04 | tcccp | VMS on iPaq |
| 15:50.08 | tcccp | lol |
| 15:53.21 | tcccp | majorburn: I think gpe_cvs is not really the kernel tree, hm? |
| 15:54.24 | majorburn | Um... I would have no idea, sorry |
| 15:54.31 | tcccp | ok, must be somewhere |
| 15:54.37 | cr2 | tcccp: i think there were linux tools to read ODS-5 ? |
| 15:54.58 | tcccp | cr2: Haven't seen any of them |
| 15:55.00 | cr2 | like mtools, not for mounting. |
| 15:55.14 | cr2 | hmm. need to dig on my hdds |
| 15:55.40 | cr2 | once i wanted to mount old 1GB VAX MO disks |
| 15:55.48 | majorburn | wow, 1gb |
| 15:56.04 | cr2 | and i really could copy the files afair. |
| 15:56.11 | tcccp | cr2: I'd use them with a) simh or b) my DEC stuff |
| 15:56.36 | cr2 | majorburn: MO ! |
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| 15:56.54 | cr2 | tcccp: i only run rt11 on simh. |
| 15:57.02 | tcccp | cr2: I have: VAX: VS2000, VS3100 M30/M38, MV3100, VS4000/60, VS4000-200, VAX8250, AXP: 3xAS200, 1xAS300, 1xAS400, 1xMultia, 1xDS10, 2xAS2100(a) |
| 15:57.09 | majorburn | Holy vaxman |
| 15:57.22 | tcccp | majorburn: I get DEC stuff for free at $secret_place |
| 15:57.28 | cr2 | Napfton: you was looking for Marex |
| 15:57.33 | tcccp | Just two stakes: No dumping, no selling |
| 15:57.42 | cr2 | Marex: does the phone work on beetles ? |
| 15:57.57 | Marex | cr2, hi ... somehow yea |
| 15:58.08 | Marex | you can make phonecalls using terminal and n_erhtc |
| 15:58.11 | cr2 | Marex: we'd like to check it on sable |
| 15:58.27 | cr2 | Marex: let's commit n_erhtc to hh.org |
| 15:58.36 | Marex | its still crippled |
| 15:58.43 | majorburn | ever considered melting them down and making art exhibits out of it? |
| 15:58.44 | Marex | I'll mail you |
| 15:58.56 | tcccp | majorburn: definetly not |
| 15:59.02 | majorburn | what about just doing it ot one? |
| 15:59.12 | tcccp | majorburn: I need hardware for non-drm non-tpm computing when day X has come |
| 15:59.15 | cr2 | tcccp: i have only many Qbus cards + MV3100 boards, and the 4000/600 |
| 15:59.21 | cr2 | s/600/60/ |
| 15:59.43 | tcccp | s/X/x/;whoami |
| 15:59.49 | tcccp | o.O |
| 15:59.54 | cr2 | tcccp: amen |
| 15:59.57 | miknix | cr2, is it possible to change a gpio value in haret= |
| 15:59.59 | miknix | cr2, ? |
| 16:00.02 | tcccp | hm, ok ;) |
| 16:00.39 | cr2 | tcccp: i doubt that the script kiddies can write a vax exploit these days :) |
| 16:01.15 | cr2 | miknix: only by reading, masking and writing back the register |
| 16:01.38 | tcccp | cr2: According to DEFCON VMS is ~unhackable |
| 16:01.58 | majorburn | Run net-2 |
| 16:02.10 | cr2 | tcccp: that's why i keep 4000/60 . and the alphas. |
| 16:02.36 | cr2 | majorburn: it was 'run phone' :) |
| 16:02.37 | Marex | cr2, sent, this version should be able to make phone calls using at commands |
| 16:02.47 | tcccp | cr2: Same here |
| 16:02.48 | cr2 | Marex: thanks. |
| 16:03.13 | cr2 | tcccp: over decnet |
| 16:03.15 | tcccp | aah, it's `cvs checkout kernel` |
| 16:03.26 | miknix | cr2, thanks. 001.877 GPIOS GPIO2-IL: IL34(34)=0 <-- is this GPIO 34? I always mess with haret numberings |
| 16:03.30 | tcccp | cr2: I have plenty DECnet traffic here :) |
| 16:04.03 | cr2 | miknix: modify the .py decoder to get better names |
| 16:04.49 | cr2 | tcccp: lol. i've switched to tcpip in 1993. |
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| 16:06.07 | cr2 | tcccp: i think early versions of samba supported the dec smbd, or how it was called. pathworks. |
| 16:07.02 | tcccp | cr2: I curse HP there are no S-ATA drivers for VMS yet |
| 16:07.08 | tcccp | none I have heard of |
| 16:11.03 | tcccp | cr2: Attaching my 500GB S-ATA drives doing some volume shadowing would definetly make my day |
| 16:12.00 | tcccp | cr2: surprising the other DECUS members having VMS on my iPaq woudl make my day also |
| 16:16.26 | cr2 | lol |
| 16:20.20 | tcccp | cr2: ;) |
| 16:21.28 | tcccp | cr2: But after all my mojo will increase dramatically when the ipaq runs linux O:-) |
| 16:23.16 | cr2 | ok |
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| 16:24.46 | tcccp | cr2: I cannot understand Microsoft can release a Windows where clicking on that [X] does not mean "application exit 0" |
| 16:25.11 | tcccp | and you have to use some cripplingly designed taskmgr to finally end that process |
| 16:26.07 | tcccp | hmmmm |
| 16:27.39 | cr2 | tcccp: not all wince versions have taskmgr |
| 16:27.54 | majorburn | that's just a bit of an informed rant, but oh well |
| 16:28.02 | cr2 | so you may need to push softreset |
| 16:28.13 | tcccp | o.O |
| 16:29.04 | majorburn | mfgrs understand peopels reluctance to change and therefore at least my devices are shipped with a tool that changes the behavior of the x to actually close on first tap. or when holding x down for 2 seconds |
| 16:29.24 | cr2 | majorburn: they changed the X behaviour. this and aygshell.h are PITA |
| 16:29.51 | cr2 | majorburn: htc provides the X-tool as an addon in its roms. |
| 16:29.52 | majorburn | afaik, the x still minimizes by default |
| 16:30.39 | majorburn | err i guess that wasnt your poitn |
| 16:32.08 | tcccp | majorburn: The last Windows I had on the bare metal must have been somewhere aroung 1999/2000 |
| 16:32.16 | tcccp | majorburn: I'm simply not used to use it ;) |
| 16:32.28 | tcccp | 's/aroung/around/' |
| 16:32.35 | tcccp | Caffeins buffer underrun |
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| 16:51.08 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
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| 16:55.49 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 16:56.17 | BabelO | pH5: i need you to comit :) |
| 16:57.01 | pH5 | ok :) |
| 16:57.32 | BabelO | pH5: what i need to do on my side ? i know about git push origin htc-omap:refs/heads/htc-omap |
| 16:59.35 | miknix | pH5, hi |
| 17:04.07 | pH5 | BabelO: sounds good, if htc-omap is in a state that you're not afraid to publish, go for it :) |
| 17:04.08 | pH5 | hi miknix |
| 17:04.32 | BabelO | pH5: but i cannot |
| 17:04.42 | BabelO | pH5: does not works like this :( |
| 17:05.22 | BabelO | pH5: fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 17:05.52 | pH5 | BabelO: s,origin,ssh://babelo@linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git, ? |
| 17:06.57 | BabelO | pH5: int .git/config ? |
| 17:09.45 | pH5 | hm, I don't know if you can set up a remote with two urls, one for fetching and one to push. |
| 17:11.58 | BabelO | pH5: shit, not my name which appear :( |
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| 17:15.08 | pH5 | BabelO: git-config --global user.name, user.email :) |
| 17:17.19 | pH5 | BabelO: I can't use the diagnostic card method with EOL on herald, it just doesn't recognize anything, even though I triple-checked that CID and keys are correct :( |
| 17:18.02 | BabelO | pH5: dd if=sd.img of=/dev/sdc |
| 17:18.09 | BabelO | pH5: then the typhoon perl script ? |
| 17:19.55 | pH5 | I uses vivien's mkbootimg from EOL git, but it calls typhoonnbfdecode.pl |
| 17:19.59 | pH5 | s/uses/used/ |
| 17:20.25 | BabelO | pH5: yes and you set the keys ? |
| 17:21.38 | pH5 | yes. I have the same keys as tornado/artemis. |
| 17:24.05 | BabelO | pH5: once i set the key, the error message change from checksum to something else |
| 17:26.40 | BabelO | pH5: about ads7846 ? i got my spi driver to work on artemis now, but i have some strange thing |
| 17:27.16 | BabelO | pH5: but you can reflash herald with wm5 ? |
| 17:29.12 | pH5 | I don't even get the checksum message. The card isn't recognised at all. |
| 17:29.21 | pH5 | I guess I should go to the xda-dev forums for help |
| 17:29.55 | BabelO | pH5: i was only able to get it running with vivien sd image, i ve tryed to do it myself without sucess |
| 17:33.51 | BabelO | pH5: for others push ? i keep same command line ? |
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| 17:35.39 | BabelO | pH5: ok well first comit is done for just omap850 support working |
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| 17:40.14 | exc1 | hello |
| 17:41.57 | majorburn | whadd up |
| 17:42.05 | Zoolooc | hi there |
| 17:42.08 | exc1 | :-) |
| 17:42.12 | BabelO | miknix: that is ok now |
| 17:42.30 | pH5 | BabelO: now that the branch is created in the remote you can just use git-push <repo> htc-omap, without that <src>:<dst> thing |
| 17:42.44 | pH5 | hi exc1, majorburn, Zoolooc |
| 17:42.58 | BabelO | pH5: ok, it is done now :) i think it is clean patch |
| 17:43.31 | BabelO | pH5: the wrong thing is that i need EFB system eabled to boot, don't know why, i think it is related to the debug port output |
| 17:45.00 | miknix | BabelO, ? |
| 17:45.24 | BabelO | miknix: htc-omap branch at linuxtogo, clean and short patch :) |
| 17:45.34 | BabelO | clean not not really, but minimal yes |
| 17:45.42 | miknix | nice |
| 17:46.00 | miknix | BabelO, do you have your board file there? |
| 17:46.15 | BabelO | miknix: yes all is there |
| 17:46.25 | miknix | BabelO, I'll talk to pH5 to start putting the wizard board there to then |
| 17:46.29 | miknix | s/to/too/ |
| 17:47.01 | miknix | pH5, ping |
| 17:47.17 | pH5 | hi miknix |
| 17:47.43 | miknix | hi pH5 . artemis is in the htc-omap tree, do you want the wizard board there too? |
| 17:49.45 | pH5 | miknix: sure, that's why you have write access to the repo. just try to keep changes from mainline minimal where possible. |
| 17:50.08 | miknix | pH5, sure. how do we setup ssh ? |
| 17:51.35 | pH5 | miknix: ssh login comes with the linuxtogo account iirc. |
| 17:51.40 | exc1 | can someone please look at this http://pastebin.com/m5fbb256f and tell me what is wrong (that would be really nice :-) ) |
| 17:51.50 | miknix | pH5, hum.. looking at it then |
| 17:52.20 | pH5 | exc1: remove /boot/zImage from the rootfs |
| 17:52.26 | exc1 | I'm trying to boot a new OpenMoko image (by paulproteus) |
| 17:52.33 | pH5 | if it's there, initramfs-bootmenu-image tries to kexec into it. |
| 17:52.43 | pH5 | but for some reason (I don't know why) kexec doesn't work |
| 17:52.57 | exc1 | pH5: thanks, I also tried that, but then I get to the touchscreen-calibration - and the touchscreen doesn't work |
| 17:53.16 | exc1 | which is progress? |
| 17:53.17 | pH5 | magician_ts not loaded? |
| 17:53.29 | exc1 | have to look it up real quick |
| 17:54.44 | BabelO | miknix: can you do same tree than me ? |
| 17:55.12 | miknix | BabelO, putting the board into a subdir? sure |
| 17:55.20 | exc1 | pH5: http://pastebin.com/m3a3b3268 - lsmod shows magician_ts is loaded |
| 17:56.10 | pH5 | hm, upstream don't use subdirs. |
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| 17:56.58 | BabelO | pH5: it looks more clear, and driver like lcd are easy to locate like this |
| 17:57.12 | miknix | BabelO, you can put board-artemis-lcd.c |
| 17:57.19 | miknix | I think they do like this at upstream |
| 17:57.27 | BabelO | yes |
| 17:57.28 | pH5 | BabelO: I'm not telling you how to do it, just saying upstream does it differently :) |
| 17:57.41 | exc1 | is the zImage a recent problem? I don't have that problem with earlier images |
| 17:58.03 | pH5 | exc1: huh.. do you get touchscreen events from /dev/input/event*? |
| 17:58.24 | pH5 | the only other possibility I see is that Xfbdev was started with wrong parameters |
| 17:58.29 | BabelO | pH5: ok, i do it once GPS /bt / ts works then :) i though it is more easy for personnal test ;) and porting |
| 17:59.06 | exc1 | pH5, I'll have to check that |
| 17:59.06 | BabelO | pH5: about ts there is something i don't understand |
| 17:59.42 | miknix | pH5, BabelO so I create a subdir for the board? |
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| 18:02.36 | BabelO | cr2 , pH5 http://pastebin.ca/1017112 |
| 18:03.57 | BabelO | miknix: like pH5 say for mainline board-* is better, but where did you put your htc-i2c-cpld driver ? |
| 18:04.32 | miknix | BabelO, I'm thinking in not using it on htc-omap |
| 18:04.40 | miknix | BabelO, I'll try the bbkeys driver |
| 18:05.37 | BabelO | miknix: ok |
| 18:06.35 | miknix | BabelO, the htc-i2c-cpld driver is currently in drivers/i2c/chips/ on the linwizard tree |
| 18:07.03 | BabelO | miknix: ok, but you refer to gpio specific to wizard |
| 18:07.40 | miknix | BabelO, htc-i2c-cpld doesnt use gpios.. it attaches to any i2c bus |
| 18:07.59 | pH5 | miknix: it's the correct location. |
| 18:08.07 | pH5 | it doesn't use gpios. it *provides* them |
| 18:08.23 | BabelO | :) |
| 18:08.24 | pH5 | (well, it should) |
| 18:08.34 | miknix | pH5, the htc-i2c-driver? |
| 18:08.49 | pH5 | don't you think? |
| 18:09.12 | miknix | pH5, it just exports a couple of functions to be used on other drivers |
| 18:10.06 | pH5 | well, at least the keys and keyboard leds on herald are simple gpios |
| 18:10.31 | pH5 | and keyboard/keypad backlight etc. |
| 18:10.51 | miknix | pH5, herald works with this driver, you only have two more bits we dont have to enable the FN key led |
| 18:11.22 | miknix | BabelO, Author: root <root@linuxbox.hd.free.fr> |
| 18:11.27 | pH5 | miknix: I understand it works on both devices, still it's custom hard-coded where it doesn't have to be because generic interfaces in the kernel exist |
| 18:11.57 | miknix | pH5, yeah.. true. I'm not going to use it on the htc-omap tree |
| 18:12.25 | paulproteus | waves. |
| 18:12.34 | BabelO | miknix: yes, stupid me, i use pH5 command, but does not works :( i have to checkout as a normal user i think |
| 18:12.37 | pH5 | But I guess I should shut up until I finally manage to get out of that damn herald bootloader. Right now I'm more or less just watching the omap850 efforts :/ |
| 18:12.46 | miknix | LOL |
| 18:13.08 | miknix | pH5, you'll have lucky. linux always prevails |
| 18:13.15 | majorburn | God I hope not |
| 18:13.54 | miknix | going to eat.. bb |
| 18:21.35 | exc1 | pH5: cat /dev/input/event1 definitely gives some output ... if I touch the screen -> even more. event0 doesn't |
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| 18:26.16 | folken | good evening. |
| 18:26.37 | folken | How useable is the gpe/linux port on the htc blueangle? Fit for everyday use? |
| 18:30.24 | exc1 | sorry, folken - I don't know. did you try that one http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/ ? (it's from July 2007 :-( ) |
| 18:31.50 | majorburn | I think "It's from July 2007 :-(" can be better summed up as "BURN!" |
| 18:32.38 | exc1 | :-P |
| 18:33.04 | majorburn | exists for that singular reason |
| 18:33.13 | majorburn | on "IT's from July 2007!" |
| 18:34.30 | exc1 | well.. there's a later one from April 08 but it's a Qtopia one |
| 18:34.58 | majorburn | burn! |
| 18:36.11 | exc1 | well my efforts building a magician image didn't go to well |
| 18:36.57 | exc1 | too |
| 18:38.22 | dcordes | folken: I would say the latest qtopia build available is |
| 18:38.29 | dcordes | (fit) |
| 18:39.43 | pH5 | exc1: does your build have xserver-kdrive 1.4? |
| 18:40.04 | pH5 | if so, I guess your /etc/X11/Xserver has to be modified for the openmoko build |
| 18:40.14 | exc1 | that's a good question |
| 18:40.48 | folken | dcordes: are you using it? |
| 18:41.11 | pH5 | exc1: does that file have a "HTC Magician" section? |
| 18:41.58 | exc1 | yes |
| 18:42.24 | pH5 | try adding a "-mouse tslib" option to ARGS |
| 18:42.45 | dcordes | folken: no, not recently |
| 18:43.05 | dcordes | I made calls with it though and it seems stable and fast |
| 18:43.14 | exc1 | thanks, I will |
| 18:43.16 | folken | dcordes: thank you. Will try. |
| 18:43.39 | dcordes | folken: definetly worth it |
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| 18:44.44 | miknix | Kevin2, ping |
| 18:57.59 | miknix | pH5, "error: Unable to append to logs/refs/heads/htc-omap: Permission denied" |
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| 19:06.09 | pH5 | miknix: I don't understand, from time to time some files end up kevin.mobile-linux 644. |
| 19:06.14 | pH5 | please try again now. |
| 19:06.28 | exc1 | pH5: the tslib option doesn't change anything (noticeable) |
| 19:06.44 | miknix | pH5, filemode = true |
| 19:06.45 | miknix | sharedrepository = 1 |
| 19:06.54 | miknix | put that in the gitdir/config |
| 19:07.01 | exc1 | also I checked with an earlier image - that doesn't have that option either |
| 19:07.05 | miknix | it forces the group mode in newer files |
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| 19:07.32 | pikapika | hi |
| 19:09.15 | pH5 | miknix: oy, thanks. filemode=true we already have |
| 19:09.43 | miknix | pH5, is it ok if I prefix my comits with HTCWIZARD: ? |
| 19:11.08 | pH5 | sure |
| 19:12.00 | miknix | error: Unable to append to logs/refs/heads/htc-omap: Permission denied |
| 19:12.02 | miknix | again |
| 19:12.55 | miknix | pH5, btw: do you know how I set that pushes into linuxtogo will go by default to branch htc-omap instead of pushing every local branch I have? |
| 19:13.34 | miknix | I mean git push linuxtogo |
| 19:13.52 | miknix | that will push every local branch to there.. but I want to default to htc-omap |
| 19:16.58 | pH5 | git push linuxtogo htc-omap |
| 19:17.08 | pH5 | or just remove the local heads that you don't want to push on |
| 19:17.24 | pH5 | I'm sure there is a more clever method, but I don't know it |
| 19:18.47 | exc1 | pH5: we'll I was wrong ... the tslib option makes the "Touch the crosshairs..." fontsize smaller ... but that wasn't what we hoped for :-) |
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| 19:54.01 | dcordes | are there any test results for herald? |
| 20:09.28 | dcordes | miknix: you are the omap pro. can you help me with herald? |
| 20:12.00 | miknix | omap pro? |
| 20:12.15 | miknix | dcordes, I have a wizard image.. I think it will work for you |
| 20:12.56 | dcordes | miknix: I mean you are professinal with the omap850 |
| 20:13.00 | dcordes | where can I get it? |
| 20:13.40 | miknix | dcordes, lol, no I'm not. silven made the omap850 transition :p |
| 20:13.58 | miknix | dcordes, gimmi a minute I'll build it |
| 20:14.43 | dcordes | miknix: cool thanks it's not for me |
| 20:15.25 | dcordes | somebody in kaiser linux thread in the xda forum aksed for herald and I'd like to show people about the diversity of available ports |
| 20:19.43 | miknix | dcordes, I dont know if your lcd timings are the same |
| 20:19.52 | miknix | dcordes, I might want to talk to S^P |
| 20:20.16 | miknix | dcordes, he is using the linwizard kernel with some minor modifications |
| 20:22.05 | pH5 | http://en.pastebin.ca/1017235 <-- timings for herald sony panel |
| 20:30.44 | miknix | pH5, thanks. dcordes, http://miknix.homelinux.com/linwizard/dev/linwizard-herald.bz2 |
| 20:30.57 | miknix | with herald lcd clocks |
| 20:32.37 | miknix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAEMjD4J55E <-- very good presentation |
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| 20:48.05 | dcordes | pH5, miknix: thanks |
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| 21:25.25 | dcordes | miknix: heh, sterile phones. |
| 21:29.33 | paulproteus | exc1, Any progress with ph5's X suggestion? |
| 21:33.07 | dcordes | miknix: (seeing the presentation) |
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| 21:51.32 | exc1 | hello, paulproteus. Unfortunately not. |
| 21:54.17 | exc1 | we (I) still don't know what changed so that the symbolic link doesn't work (and what it is there for in the first place) |
| 21:54.25 | paulproteus | Sure, but keep it away! (-; |
| 21:54.39 | exc1 | or why the touchscreen doesn't work. |
| 21:54.58 | paulproteus | Yes, the touchscreen is the bigger issue I'd say. |
| 21:55.28 | exc1 | I get some output from /dev/input/event1 but I don't know if it looks like it's supposed to (I could compare to the output of a working image) |
| 21:57.58 | exc1 | ph5 also mentioned something about maybe wrong parameters to Xfbdev |
| 21:58.38 | paulproteus | Yes, exactly. |
| 22:02.12 | exc1 | diff of Xserver (working with older image) and the one in the new built one |
| 22:02.13 | exc1 | http://pastebin.com/me0a8172 |
| 22:08.43 | exc1 | I just tried an older version of Xserver config and that didn't work either |
| 22:08.57 | exc1 | (nonresponsive touchscreen) |
| 22:28.46 | exc1 | I think I found it |
| 22:29.09 | exc1 | the /dev/input/event1 gives a totally different output in our image |
| 22:29.33 | exc1 | and it gives output all the all the time - not just when pressing the touchscreen |
| 22:38.02 | exc1 | is there anything I can do about that, paulproteus? |
| 22:38.26 | paulproteus | exc1, Oh, that's interesting. |
| 22:38.29 | paulproteus | My guess is that's kernel related. |
| 22:38.38 | paulproteus | It pretty much has to be kernel related. |
| 22:38.52 | exc1 | but I can boot an older image with the new kernel just fine |
| 22:39.22 | paulproteus | Maybe the /dev/input/event* files changed their order. |
| 22:39.29 | paulproteus | So what used to be event0 is now event1 or something. |
| 22:39.38 | exc1 | no, checked that :-) |
| 22:39.43 | paulproteus | Drat. (-: |
| 22:40.55 | exc1 | I can also see a touchscreen0 in the older image ... will check the new one |
| 22:41.03 | paulproteus | Also read dmesg. |
| 22:41.09 | paulproteus | See what it has to say about this. |
| 22:42.12 | exc1 | I can paste it somewhere - but I can't really tell what it should say |
| 22:43.29 | paulproteus | nods |
| 22:44.10 | paulproteus | I mean dmesg might indicate which devices are /dev/input/event* . |
| 22:51.58 | exc1 | dmesg certainly shows different output... working image http://pastebin.com/m4fd9554f not working http://pastebin.com/m6b5ee9a2 |
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| 22:59.34 | exc1 | paulproteus: we the problem seems to be sth else. I can run ts_calibrate and it recognizes the points fine. Just the calibration after the start (white background) doesn't |
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| 23:11.06 | exc1 | gotta go. could have gone better today. cya tomorrow |
| 23:23.49 | miknix | Kevin2, ping |
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