| 00:00.08 | cr2 | miknix: is it rot13 ? |
| 00:00.33 | cr2 | dcordes: 028 is 2.8" LCD |
| 00:00.41 | cr2 | dcordes: ba has 035 |
| 00:00.45 | dcordes | lol |
| 00:01.12 | BabelO | cr2: unbuntu and some others |
| 00:01.25 | dcordes | there are 3,6 Ah batteries forBA |
| 00:01.50 | cr2 | dcordes: hacked by chinese ? |
| 00:02.07 | dcordes | hong kong |
| 00:02.26 | cr2 | dcordes: i've seen such batteries, they don't have ds2760 and look weird. |
| 00:02.39 | dcordes | what is ds2760? |
| 00:02.51 | cr2 | builtin batttery monitor chip. |
| 00:02.59 | cr2 | with id & so on. |
| 00:03.47 | miknix | cr2, lol, doesnt look rot13 to me |
| 00:03.51 | dcordes | oh. so that might cause a shorter lifetime of the battery? |
| 00:04.18 | miknix | cr2, anyway, branch -r will solve the mistery for me |
| 00:04.57 | dcordes | http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220225459177 |
| 00:06.16 | exco | hahahahaha H & K rock |
| 00:06.18 | cr2 | dcordes: yes, i think that's the battery. |
| 00:06.38 | dcordes | hong and kong? |
| 00:06.39 | cr2 | dcordes: i have strong doubts that it's really 2.6Ah |
| 00:06.58 | dcordes | I bought one battery for my laptop from shenzhen once. that was all good |
| 00:07.02 | cr2 | looks more like a clone without the eeprom. |
| 00:07.28 | dcordes | streng kontrollierte Qualitätsware mit CE,UL,ISO 9001-Prüfsiegel |
| 00:07.36 | exco | dcordes: Harold & Kumar |
| 00:07.52 | dcordes | did they find the burger place yet? :) |
| 00:07.53 | cr2 | stickers are cheap |
| 00:08.20 | dcordes | I wonder in how far toll controlls such certificates |
| 00:08.21 | cr2 | vista compatible & so. |
| 00:08.22 | exco | they already found White Castle in the first part... |
| 00:08.47 | dcordes | I wasn't aware of a second one |
| 00:09.15 | cr2 | i'd be worried about the battery without ds2760, but you can't check it before buing anyway. |
| 00:09.54 | BabelO | cr2: Alge, and some other had this kind of battery for uni or ba |
| 00:10.11 | BabelO | cr2: they replay an id battery 0xfffffff |
| 00:10.12 | dcordes | I think my ba battery is in a moderate state after all. only thing which really annoys me are 3 torx screw lacking. |
| 00:10.40 | cr2 | BabelO: i had it too, and cracked it open after it effectively died. |
| 00:10.54 | BabelO | ok :) |
| 00:10.59 | cr2 | BabelO: the original battery still works better :) |
| 00:11.07 | cr2 | and longer ;) |
| 00:11.10 | BabelO | cr2: did you donwload my map ? |
| 00:11.27 | BabelO | cr2: my ba was provided with two battery with orange operator |
| 00:11.28 | cr2 | 8 and 9 not yet |
| 00:11.53 | cr2 | BabelO: the bps halved since some time |
| 00:12.04 | cr2 | must be on your side :) |
| 00:12.40 | dcordes | BabelO, can you give me your homepage url? |
| 00:12.41 | cr2 | i've picked the world OSM map yesterday. 10mBps :) |
| 00:12.44 | dcordes | I wanna flash ba sd |
| 00:13.09 | cr2 | dcordes: it's not yet working afaik. |
| 00:13.32 | dcordes | what? BabelO's ba filesystem? |
| 00:13.43 | cr2 | flashing ba |
| 00:13.49 | dcordes | I alredy made calls with an earlier version |
| 00:13.57 | dcordes | oh. now I mean I'm putting it on sd sorry |
| 00:13.57 | cr2 | and you need a 31MB rootfs |
| 00:14.03 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:14.22 | cr2 | BabelO: did we find the vpen on ba ? |
| 00:14.23 | exco | dcordes: H&K Escape from Guantanamo Bay |
| 00:14.23 | exco | if you liked the first one you have to catch it in the movies (little 420 never hurts) |
| 00:14.43 | cr2 | lol |
| 00:15.28 | cr2 | BabelO: finishing soon. |
| 00:15.39 | exco | well ... I'll be seeing you guys |
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| 00:15.41 | cr2 | will check it, and go to bed. |
| 00:16.10 | dcordes | exco, thanks for the advise :) good night |
| 00:16.45 | BabelO | cr2: it is my file server provider ;) |
| 00:17.03 | BabelO | cr2: fastest in intranet, but not for extranet |
| 00:17.10 | cr2 | AH |
| 00:17.10 | exco | paulproteus: I'm keeping my finger's crossed that this time everything goes as it should with the new image |
| 00:17.12 | BabelO | cr2: ok |
| 00:17.22 | cr2 | BabelO: good that i've stopped it manually :) |
| 00:17.25 | dcordes | BabelO, can you give me the link? |
| 00:17.37 | cr2 | BabelO: otherwise it wanted to mirror your site :) |
| 00:17.57 | BabelO | cr2: maps look nice, there are some fuzzy in part |
| 00:18.14 | BabelO | cr2: but if i change maps order it is ok |
| 00:18.41 | miknix | BabelO, I'm at htc-msm. head is at 2.6.24 |
| 00:18.44 | BabelO | dcordes: what link ? |
| 00:19.00 | dcordes | your website |
| 00:19.00 | dcordes | babel*.free.fr |
| 00:19.16 | BabelO | dcordes: for ?, nothing interesting on my website, it is not a website at all, just a fileserver ;) |
| 00:19.31 | dcordes | BabelO, blueangel image |
| 00:19.45 | BabelO | dcordes: latest is at linuxtogo |
| 00:19.51 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:20.28 | BabelO | cr2: this scanner / printer wifi is really nice, and nice picture as you can see :) |
| 00:21.02 | cr2 | BabelO: Z_37_4.tif ? |
| 00:21.27 | cr2 | hehe. then it segfaults :) |
| 00:21.36 | BabelO | it is just the srtm elevation, not needed for you 90 m is wrong like kiozen say |
| 00:21.44 | BabelO | cr2: remove it from qmap ;) |
| 00:22.29 | BabelO | cr2: the only elevation around my house is +/- 50m |
| 00:22.30 | BabelO | lol |
| 00:22.44 | dcordes | wonders if openmoko qvga ais fixed |
| 00:23.27 | cr2 | BabelO: still something to tell to kiozen |
| 00:24.00 | BabelO | crdid you see the map ? |
| 00:24.46 | cr2 | BabelO: is the .qmap cached somewhere ? it crashes on boot now |
| 00:25.18 | cr2 | +proj=merc +lon_0=0 +k=1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +no_defs |
| 00:25.31 | cr2 | this looks strange. |
| 00:28.01 | cr2 | BabelO: x4 is slow |
| 00:28.13 | miknix | BabelO, this htc-msm branch is in pristine state. I dont see any htc-board*.c files here |
| 00:28.24 | BabelO | cr2: that is what i told you, but other zoom are ok |
| 00:28.59 | BabelO | miknix: msm, is something else, android branch |
| 00:29.36 | miknix | BabelO, the repo only has this branches: |
| 00:29.36 | miknix | linuxtogo/android-msm |
| 00:29.36 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.36 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.36 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.38 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.40 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.48 | cr2 | BabelO: 3m/pix is ok |
| 00:30.56 | BabelO | miknix: hum master is the one to start |
| 00:31.15 | BabelO | cr2: i use 300 dpi |
| 00:31.32 | dcordes | miknix, arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htckaiser.c board-vogue.c |
| 00:31.42 | BabelO | cr2: any way the grid tool is really powerfull |
| 00:31.43 | dcordes | it's in perfect state :) |
| 00:31.46 | cr2 | BabelO: you didn't cut out the borders ? |
| 00:31.52 | BabelO | cr2: all mach perfect |
| 00:31.57 | miknix | dcordes, oh.. mach-msm |
| 00:32.05 | BabelO | cr2: no, i ve no other maps around this one |
| 00:32.25 | dcordes | miknix, yea it's msm7x00 not pxa |
| 00:32.39 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:32.44 | miknix | dcordes, I'm with omap |
| 00:32.55 | BabelO | cr2: but i use bad thing for this result |
| 00:32.57 | miknix | dcordes, dont see any HTC boards using omap here |
| 00:32.58 | dcordes | how's wizard going? |
| 00:33.24 | BabelO | miknix: wa have to add them to this repo |
| 00:33.38 | cr2 | BabelO: did you scan in jpeg ? |
| 00:33.39 | BabelO | miknix: i start next week with 2.6.25 |
| 00:33.49 | BabelO | cr2: no png then tif |
| 00:33.53 | miknix | BabelO, ok, I'll join too |
| 00:34.00 | cr2 | BabelO: i think the palette can be reduced in a better way. |
| 00:34.01 | BabelO | cr2: why ? |
| 00:34.01 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:34.05 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:34.16 | cr2 | BabelO: looks like jpeg to me :) |
| 00:34.57 | BabelO | lol |
| 00:35.08 | cr2 | BabelO: the colors are dithered |
| 00:35.23 | BabelO | cr2: yes i use the convert magic line |
| 00:35.23 | miknix | dcordes, wizard is in same state as artemis. the hw is very similar. although our repo in linwizard is in sync with linus and linux-omap repos, its totally upstream, so always breaking compatibility. I'm looking forward for a stable repo to work on |
| 00:35.24 | cr2 | by your scanner ? |
| 00:35.25 | BabelO | +dither |
| 00:35.40 | cr2 | +dither means not to dither |
| 00:35.45 | BabelO | else each ipicture are 25Mb |
| 00:35.51 | cr2 | -dither is to use dither. |
| 00:36.11 | cr2 | BabelO: then you have some strange scanner :) |
| 00:36.28 | BabelO | cr2 maybe the settings are bad |
| 00:36.42 | BabelO | cr2: i have an hp photosmart c4380 |
| 00:36.52 | BabelO | not only scanner, but it is ok for me |
| 00:37.11 | cr2 | BabelO: you'd scan into raw pnm |
| 00:37.11 | BabelO | wifi scanner, is really good, only one wire , and wife is happy |
| 00:37.18 | BabelO | yes |
| 00:37.44 | cr2 | to it seems like the dithering is done by the scanner |
| 00:38.30 | cr2 | usually you get such weird patterns only when converting jpegs |
| 00:39.00 | BabelO | cr2: i think i did not adjust settings too much, i just keep default |
| 00:39.26 | cr2 | hm. ok. |
| 00:39.57 | cr2 | good night |
| 00:40.06 | BabelO | good night |
| 00:40.16 | miknix | cr2, good night |
| 00:40.16 | dcordes | night cr2 |
| 00:40.58 | dcordes | lol borked the ba keyboad before qtopia even started ^^ |
| 00:42.05 | dcordes | BabelO, you think it's possible to user bigger SDs on ba? |
| 00:42.36 | BabelO | dcordes: i only use 2Gb, never try more |
| 00:42.46 | BabelO | dcordes: i never use keyboard, only ts |
| 00:43.05 | dcordes | keyboard is not really usable |
| 00:43.13 | dcordes | I wonder if there is a trick to not make it crash |
| 00:47.02 | BabelO | good night |
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| 05:12.02 | goxboxlive | cr2: have you noticed? http://wiki.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Titchy_Mobile |
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| 05:56.05 | surgex0 | cool goxboxlive |
| 05:56.12 | surgex0 | likes |
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| 06:38.54 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Excellent! |
| 06:39.26 | paulproteus | I'm very tempted to use that base on the Magician. |
| 06:40.43 | paulproteus | Another time. |
| 06:43.39 | goxboxlive | I havent tried my self yet. But i guess, it's not that diffrent from Angstrom i think. I'll try to add Qtopia to it for testing. Should work i think- |
| 06:44.35 | paulproteus | Have you tried compiling an openmoko image lately for Angstrom? |
| 06:44.50 | paulproteus | I get errors when I set machine to Magician (and I haven't tried other machine types). |
| 06:45.03 | paulproteus | ngstrom-linux-gnueabi/libglade-2.6.2-r2/temp/log.do_compile.20999) |
| 06:45.03 | paulproteus | | NOTE: make |
| 06:45.03 | paulproteus | | Makefile:255: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 06:45.03 | paulproteus | | FATAL: oe_runmake failed |
| 06:45.03 | paulproteus | NOTE: Task failed: /home/paulproteus/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libglade-2.6.2-r2/temp/log.do_compile.20999 |
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| 07:14.41 | kiozen | mornig BabelO, I have a bug and a solution for you :) |
| 07:15.27 | BabelO | kiozen: morning kiozen ;) |
| 07:15.36 | BabelO | kiozen: for what part ? |
| 07:15.52 | kiozen | which one first: bug or solution? |
| 07:17.17 | BabelO | bug |
| 07:18.05 | kiozen | BabelO: ok, the installer will remove the files but not the entry in the "Software" dialog |
| 07:18.29 | kiozen | BabelO: if you uninstall a second time the entry will be removed by MS |
| 07:18.48 | kiozen | BabelO: And the solution for your overlapping map problem : |
| 07:19.29 | kiozen | BabelO: now they are referenced you can stitch them together with gdal_translate |
| 07:19.49 | kiozen | (or maybe gdalwarp, have to crosscheck :)) |
| 07:23.04 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, i ve a look in one hour at the bug ;) |
| 07:23.24 | BabelO | about the map , i pm you the link |
| 07:23.31 | kiozen | ok, I will start download ;) |
| 07:39.54 | BabelO | kiozen: it is not perfect, but for a first shot i m happy |
| 07:40.21 | kiozen | BabelO: still downloading :) |
| 07:41.02 | BabelO | kiozen: best is if you or cr2 can find an idea to read the elevation curves ;) |
| 07:41.53 | kiozen | BabelO: from the bitmap? guess that is impossible |
| 07:42.03 | kiozen | not impossible but very hard |
| 07:43.21 | BabelO | about the regkey, i think i know the problem, need to change tolevel -1 before delete it :) |
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| 09:14.45 | kiozen | BabelO_: fixed that bug with bad SRTM file |
| 09:18.21 | kiozen | BabelO_: nice map, well done ;) |
| 09:20.28 | kiozen | BabelO_: gdalwarp *.tif bernis.tif |
| 09:22.33 | kiozen | BabelO_: damn it, you forgot to normalize the color pallet of each file |
| 09:23.40 | kiozen | BabelO_: hope you have still the original scanns :) |
| 09:23.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes i still have the original scan |
| 09:24.11 | BabelO_ | want to you say by normalize color ? |
| 09:24.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: each scan has a bit different color, |
| 09:24.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i have normlized the color palette with convert +dither -color 255 |
| 09:25.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: thus converting it into a 8 bit pallet will result into a different pallet, |
| 09:25.13 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but with gdal_wrap, i nedd to check the order it take each picture |
| 09:25.36 | BabelO_ | kiozen: because as you can see if you change loading order in gt, then you can have more fuzzy part |
| 09:25.38 | kiozen | BabelO_: and that will be a problem when stitching |
| 09:26.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: you have to create a plallet from the 1st tile |
| 09:26.15 | kiozen | BabelO_: and use it for all other tiles |
| 09:26.45 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes fuzzy edges, that was my rant about "flat" bed scanner |
| 09:26.58 | kiozen | BabelO_: that aren't flat at the borders |
| 09:27.07 | kiozen | BabelO_ :/ |
| 09:27.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: replace *.tif by a list of files |
| 09:29.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/resources/palettes/howto.html |
| 09:29.44 | kiozen | BabelO_: that link will tell you how to extract a pallet with gimp |
| 09:30.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: and then you have to use the pallet for all other files. |
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| 09:44.35 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok thanks ;) |
| 09:45.16 | BabelO_ | kiozen: can you ask your coworker, how he get virtualbox seamless with windows host and linux guest ? ;) |
| 09:45.49 | kiozen | BabelO_: no need to ask, upcoming release will be able ;) |
| 09:46.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: really, cool, i check |
| 09:46.11 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is very easy with the grid tool |
| 09:46.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: I know, execept your nick is cr2 :P |
| 09:46.38 | kiozen | ;) |
| 09:46.49 | BabelO_ | kiozen: some coworker, say me it can be automatic, they work in research departement :) |
| 09:47.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: well detecting the grid crossings should be feasible somehow |
| 09:47.36 | BabelO_ | kiozen: there is some ui improvement to do sometimes, when you recall proj wizard, it always forgot previous settings |
| 09:49.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: how often do you want to recall it :) the dialogs always remember the last proj string |
| 09:49.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: if this is an issue I can do |
| 10:01.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i say that, because each time i create a geotiff , i change to create map menu and retest.. Once i go back to the geotiff creation, i m not sure about previous setting and irecall the box :) |
| 10:03.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: no worries :) no dialog is closed until you close the complete map edit/create widget. And the gridtool will remember the last settings |
| 10:08.21 | cr2 | hi |
| 10:08.32 | Marex | cr2, hi, blackmailer :p |
| 10:08.37 | kiozen | hi cr2 |
| 10:08.50 | cr2 | BabelO_: you can specify the palette for convert +dither too. |
| 10:08.58 | cr2 | Marex: n560 sound works ? |
| 10:09.14 | Marex | nope, but Im getting somewhere with palmld usb2 :) |
| 10:09.57 | BabelO_ | hi cr2 |
| 10:10.06 | cr2 | kiozen: you'd drive over the weekend to Marex and take his palm* away :) |
| 10:11.01 | cr2 | BabelO: convert -map palette.pnm ... |
| 10:11.30 | kiozen | cr2: lol, haven't been to Prag a long time :) |
| 10:11.45 | cr2 | BabelO_: should not be really pnm, but it's easiest to convert the gimp .gpl to .pnm |
| 10:12.42 | cr2 | BabelO_: you can also do things like 'convert -sharpen 2 old.png new.png' |
| 10:14.55 | BabelO_ | cr2: ok |
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| 10:40.23 | Marex | cr2, dont worry, I have enough of them and I can lend some more ;D |
| 10:40.34 | Marex | s/lend/borrow/ |
| 10:49.49 | cr2 | lol |
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| 11:29.25 | BabelO_ | kiozen: bottom of the uninstall section |
| 11:29.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: DeleteRegKey HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\QLandkarte GT" |
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| 12:09.53 | Marex-jabber | hi :) |
| 12:12.26 | exco | hi |
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| 12:18.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: c'est magnifique, merci beaucoup |
| 12:23.32 | exco | De ou est-ce que vous, kiozen? |
| 12:23.57 | kiozen | allemagne :) |
| 12:24.13 | exco | aber französisch reden |
| 12:24.23 | kiozen | randomly try to reactivate my school french |
| 12:24.31 | kiozen | hehe |
| 12:24.57 | exco | ;-) |
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| 12:34.26 | cr2 | hier haben sich jetzt alle sprachgebildete Leute zusammengetan ;-) |
| 12:34.44 | cr2 | guys, lets' stay with english here in this channel |
| 12:35.30 | kiozen | cr2: lol, wouldn't call my French "sprachgebildete" after 20 years of absent use |
| 12:39.29 | BabelO_ | cr2: yeah, keep english i don't understand german, just some word :) |
| 12:40.12 | kiozen | wonders what words |
| 12:40.27 | BabelO_ | kiozen: lol, someone at research departement just show me his algorithm on maps to find crossing point of blue line ;) perfect ! |
| 12:40.46 | kiozen | tell him to send a patch! |
| 12:41.14 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i understand words like this sprachgebildete and some other i can not say here :) |
| 12:41.39 | kiozen | BabelO_: lol, these where the words I wanted to know :D |
| 12:41.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i try to get algorithm for free, he want a bottle of Pastis 51 :) |
| 12:42.09 | kiozen | BabelO_: Just ask him if he is using correlation |
| 12:42.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: that is the most likely and powerfull one |
| 12:43.12 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok i asl at coffe time, we use same algorithm for our OCR software to find table in invoices and so |
| 12:44.08 | kiozen | BabelO_: the only problem with correlation is to compensate rotation |
| 12:44.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: it's not a real problem with tables, but geographic grids can be rotated badly |
| 12:45.01 | exco | if I mount an .img (OM) to a folder is it expected that I can't read lots of files? |
| 12:47.36 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i know, but we have a deskew algorithm. and he just told me it is not correlation but something more private |
| 12:49.11 | kiozen | "more private" what ever that will be :) |
| 12:51.45 | cr2 | BabelO_: is blue a 1km grid ? |
| 12:51.56 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes |
| 12:52.32 | cr2 | hm. but GT is not doing color separation ? |
| 12:52.53 | BabelO_ | cr2: ohh i miss a wizard ? |
| 12:53.02 | cr2 | -lmagick++ is unavoidable . |
| 12:54.02 | kiozen | cr2: one could select a crossing and mark the lines, that could be used to find the other ones by correlation |
| 12:54.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: cool i did not see that virtualbox 1.6 is out, thanks |
| 12:54.08 | cr2 | BabelO_: btw, are there any ocr systems that save not only the text, but the coordinates/bbox ? |
| 12:55.02 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes our system does it into xml line which describe box with word or only each char box and also tell you what are picture part |
| 12:55.09 | cr2 | kiozen: hm. if the grid is black i guess it#ll be not so easy. |
| 12:55.15 | BabelO_ | cr2: else professsionla abbyy orcr do it too |
| 12:55.35 | cr2 | BabelO_: it was some time ago that i've run ocrad in debug mode... |
| 12:56.34 | cr2 | it should be easy to save the bbox once a character is recognized. |
| 12:57.01 | kiozen | cr2: well it will detect the same crossing all over the map, sure that can be wrong in some cases, but if you apply the property of equal spaced crossings, too, false trigger should be low |
| 12:57.01 | cr2 | i'm thinking about the village names , rivers and such. |
| 12:57.37 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, sounds reasonable |
| 12:58.36 | kiozen | there is this idea of detecting cave symbols within a map, so it's pretty likely I will implement a correlation funktion some day |
| 12:59.36 | cr2 | kiozen: a symbol == a letter in the alphabet ? |
| 13:00.36 | kiozen | cr2: close to, its an open trapezoid with _ at each side |
| 13:01.29 | cr2 | kiozen: i thought one can teach the ocr a new alphabet ? |
| 13:01.29 | kiozen | teh idea is to let the user define a mask, that is searched over the map, if found a waypoint is set |
| 13:02.08 | kiozen | cr2: afaik ocr is a bit smarter. correlation is powerfull but sloooooooow |
| 13:03.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: anyway for ocr, you need the direction too |
| 13:04.22 | cr2 | ok, but for locating the square grid a correlation is certainly the best. |
| 13:04.23 | BabelO_ | cr2: you can learn gocr new alphabet, but you need to have clean char |
| 13:04.52 | cr2 | BabelO_: you can pick and refine the symbol in gimp |
| 13:05.04 | BabelO_ | :) |
| 13:05.22 | BabelO_ | i don't want manual step, full automatic ;) |
| 13:05.28 | kiozen | use the way thru Stoney Gulch :) |
| 13:05.37 | cr2 | maps usually have some fixed symbol alphabet anyway. |
| 13:05.58 | kiozen | cr2: but there is no writeing direction |
| 13:06.11 | kiozen | text can be placed in any angle |
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| 13:17.04 | cr2 | kiozen: then it'll be a PITA for the ocr program. |
| 13:17.16 | kiozen | cr2: right |
| 13:17.57 | kiozen | cr2: then you have to ocr 4 times and rotate your computer by 90 deg. each time |
| 13:18.08 | cr2 | even the handwriting is in a worst case quadratic |
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| 13:18.50 | cr2 | correlating in 1D is certainly easier than in 2D |
| 13:19.24 | cr2 | so it 's a good idea to find the text direction first. |
| 13:20.51 | kiozen | for text definetly, however map symbols are always in the correct direction |
| 13:21.39 | kiozen | for 2 D you just need 4 times more MACs |
| 13:24.57 | cr2 | ok |
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| 13:28.44 | dcordes | hi |
| 13:29.11 | majorburn | word up |
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| 13:48.39 | BabelO_ | kiozen: linux seamless is completely buggy |
| 13:57.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok :( |
| 14:14.48 | kiozen | BabelO_: ever played with postgresql? |
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| 14:16.03 | BabelO_ | kiozen: just a little, i use myssql/mssql/oracle everyday here |
| 14:16.24 | kiozen | BabelO_: never mind, found it, was a FAQ :) |
| 14:30.17 | dcordes | cr2, emailed dzo about SMD1 and AT regs |
| 14:52.10 | dcordes | bbl |
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| 15:24.46 | Babel1 | grhh network admin found my hack to go outside :) |
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| 15:25.17 | kiozen | lol |
| 15:26.40 | Babel1 | kiozen: he take 4 month to found it, i only 5mn to me to found another way ;) |
| 15:27.30 | kiozen | Babel1: don't tell his boss :D |
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| 15:40.35 | kiozen | cr2, BabelO_: GT is able to load single geotiffs, now. svn up |
| 15:43.36 | BabelO_ | kiozen: maybe you habe to check the licence.rtf file ;) i use the trolltech file |
| 15:44.01 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok |
| 15:44.15 | BabelO_ | s/habe/have/ |
| 15:44.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: looks like GPL2 |
| 15:45.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes |
| 15:45.21 | kiozen | that's ok |
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| 15:54.39 | BabelO_ | cr2: do you know git ? i switch to mobile linux mainline and i get 2.6.25-rc6 only :( |
| 16:03.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what's new with dem file ? |
| 16:04.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: GT is not crashing if it failes to load it |
| 16:04.41 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah ok, because i saw a new file (added) |
| 16:05.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: no CMapDEM has always been there |
| 16:05.18 | BabelO_ | kiozen: and CStatus :) |
| 16:05.52 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok build fine ;) did you see that gt is available on many mirror |
| 16:06.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: ah ok, I cleaned up the map layer interface to allow vector maps in futur |
| 16:06.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes i know |
| 16:06.31 | kiozen | is professional in distributing sowtware :) |
| 16:07.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: to be ones: they all copy from http://www.kde-apps.org |
| 16:07.18 | kiozen | s/ones/honest/ |
| 16:12.37 | kiozen | bbl |
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| 17:19.55 | pH5 | hm. why does portmap-6.0 install a world-writeable init script into /etc/init.d |
| 17:20.16 | pH5 | oh, wrong channel |
| 17:20.23 | pH5 | hi everyone |
| 17:20.51 | Marex | hi pH5 |
| 17:22.25 | dcordes | hi pH5 |
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| 17:34.09 | BabelO | hi pH5 ;) |
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| 17:34.30 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 17:34.40 | BabelO | pH5: why when git checkout ainline i get a 2.6.25-rc6 version ? :) |
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| 17:36.52 | pH5 | strange, that should be 2.6.26-rc1 by now |
| 17:36.53 | pH5 | why don't you have commit access to the mobile-linux git repo btw. |
| 17:37.43 | BabelO | pH5: i never ask, and also i m a bit afraid with git :) i prefer send patch to mobile linux mailing list |
| 17:38.29 | BabelO | pH5: what do you use to checkout latest 2.6.26-rc1 ? i want to try omap on this one ;) to not lose time |
| 17:38.45 | BabelO | i just need htc-egpio, but it isalready here ;) |
| 17:39.54 | BabelO | pH5: i use git checkout origin/mainline |
| 17:41.05 | pH5 | BabelO: give me a moment, I'll update the mainline branch. |
| 17:41.16 | BabelO | ok |
| 17:41.38 | BabelO | pH5: don't do to much thing on your computer ;) |
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| 17:52.03 | pikapika | hi |
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| 18:07.19 | BabelO | kiozen: Installer is ok now ? |
| 18:07.31 | kiozen | BabelO: perfect :) |
| 18:08.43 | BabelO | :) |
| 18:09.09 | kiozen | I will supply binaries with the 0.4.2 release |
| 18:10.43 | BabelO | kiozen: ok :) maybe mingw should be better |
| 18:11.25 | kiozen | BabelO: mingw is incompatible with FWTools as FWTools is compiled with VC |
| 18:11.36 | BabelO | :( |
| 18:11.37 | kiozen | I have tried it |
| 18:13.02 | kiozen | BabelO: btw you can still use the SRTM data to get a rough elevation information |
| 18:13.12 | dcordes | pH5, when I do a git-remote update will that update only my branch or the complete tree? |
| 18:13.23 | kiozen | BabelO: GT does a quadratic interpolation for that |
| 18:14.07 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, but it does not works here, not enough elevation :( |
| 18:14.08 | kiozen | BabelO: it's just useless for relief shading |
| 18:14.08 | BabelO | kiozen: did you try with my map ? or i do wrong setup |
| 18:14.25 | kiozen | BabelO: not yet, I wait for the version with normalized pallet :) |
| 18:15.15 | BabelO | kiozen: :( i wait for the version with automatic grid detection :) |
| 18:15.48 | kiozen | BabelO: lol, that will take some time |
| 18:15.49 | BabelO | kiozen: btw this version lokks lower than previous |
| 18:16.01 | BabelO | with same map |
| 18:16.02 | kiozen | ?? |
| 18:16.18 | BabelO | humm now it is ok, strange |
| 18:17.24 | BabelO | kiozen: how can i activate shadow ? just using the srtm file ? or do i need to do something ? |
| 18:17.47 | kiozen | BabelO: just srtm |
| 18:18.28 | BabelO | i see nothing :( |
| 18:19.07 | kiozen | which file did you use? |
| 18:19.51 | BabelO | kiozen: Z_37_4.tif from the main website i found |
| 18:21.30 | BabelO | kiozen: but maximum elevation of the map is 201m and minimum is 70m |
| 18:21.57 | kiozen | shading will always adapt to maximum contrast |
| 18:23.02 | BabelO | kiozen: so maybe my map is at wrong cood ;) that is possible too |
| 18:23.03 | miknix | hey cr2 BabelO |
| 18:23.13 | BabelO | ola miknix, tapasss !!! |
| 18:23.19 | miknix | lol |
| 18:23.49 | BabelO | miknix: what branch did you take from linuxtogo git ? |
| 18:24.04 | miknix | BabelO, I did fetch them all |
| 18:24.06 | BabelO | miknix: i want to start directly with 2.6.26-rc1 |
| 18:24.14 | pH5 | BabelO: shit, don't say things like that :) my radeon m9 promptly overheated again. the thing is getting old.. |
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| 18:24.40 | BabelO | pH5: lol, i see you are compiling OE too |
| 18:24.48 | miknix | BabelO, there are some obscure changes on >2.6.25 |
| 18:24.50 | pH5 | :D |
| 18:25.05 | BabelO | pH5: maybe we need to create a private mosix cluster with all our computer over internet ;) |
| 18:25.13 | miknix | BabelO, a lot of code was removed from plat-omap/devices.c |
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| 18:25.55 | miknix | BabelO, didnt understand exactly whats the point of it. But I think they want board files to handle platform drivers structure |
| 18:25.58 | miknix | s |
| 18:26.02 | BabelO | miknix: it is like when you are doing car mechanics, you remove pieces, but motor still run ;Ã |
| 18:26.21 | BabelO | miknix: that 's it :) like hh kernel |
| 18:27.01 | BabelO | miknix: what git command did you use ? i use git checkout origin/mainline and it gave me 2.6.25-rc6, is it your case ? |
| 18:27.19 | miknix | BabelO, which repo are you talking? |
| 18:27.30 | BabelO | miknix: linuxtogo |
| 18:28.01 | pH5 | BabelO: mainline should be up to date right now |
| 18:28.25 | pH5 | still have to figure out why it wasn't automatically updated though. I'm not used to work in bare repositories. |
| 18:28.52 | pH5 | s/k/king/ |
| 18:29.11 | miknix | pH5 mainline is a merge with linus and mvista repos? |
| 18:29.48 | pH5 | nope, it's a plain copy of linus' repository |
| 18:29.58 | miknix | pH5, ah ok |
| 18:30.13 | miknix | BabelO, mvista has some cool changes we might want to merge |
| 18:30.30 | miknix | BabelO, they have a lot of PM work |
| 18:30.33 | BabelO | miknix: what kind of cool chnage ? ;) |
| 18:30.38 | BabelO | ok |
| 18:30.50 | BabelO | can be cool on n800 too :) |
| 18:31.33 | miknix | BabelO, they mainly work on omap2 but I also saw some patches for android |
| 18:31.35 | BabelO | pH5: i need to read the big git manual, i do git fetch, but Makefile at top of repo is still 2.6.25-rc6 :( |
| 18:31.45 | pH5 | main problem with n800 is still the nonworking closed wifi driver. and is the dvfs stuff in mainline yet? otherwise say goodbye to your battery charge _quick_ :) |
| 18:31.51 | miknix | BabelO, you have to git merge |
| 18:31.59 | miknix | BabelO, or use git pull |
| 18:32.10 | miknix | BabelO, git pull = git fetch + git merge |
| 18:32.24 | pH5 | BabelO: git fetch only updates the remotes. gitk origin/mainline should already show the new commits |
| 18:32.33 | BabelO | miknix that is what i do, but still same :( |
| 18:32.51 | miknix | BabelO, git fetch linuxtogo |
| 18:33.03 | miknix | BabelO, git checkout mainline |
| 18:33.12 | miknix | BabelO, git merge linuxtogo/mainline |
| 18:33.15 | BabelO | miknix: already tried :) |
| 18:33.24 | pH5 | miknix: I think BabelO has linuxtogo as "origin", so git fetch should be enough |
| 18:33.40 | pH5 | "git fetch" = "git fetch origin" |
| 18:34.20 | miknix | BabelO, or you can also do git pull mainline which will fetch and merge the mainline branch |
| 18:34.23 | miknix | pH5, yeah |
| 18:37.39 | BabelO | pH5: fatal: 'mainline': unable to chdir or not a git archive |
| 18:38.10 | miknix | BabelO, do you have mainline as a local branch? |
| 18:38.16 | pH5 | BabelO: do you have a local mainline branch? otherwise do "git checkout -b mainline origin/mainline" (this is by default the same as "git branch --track mainline origin/mainline; git checkout mainline") |
| 18:38.45 | pH5 | i.e. create a remote-tracking branch called mainline and check it out into the workdir |
| 18:38.49 | BabelO | ah ahh, i ve do git checkout -b origin/mainline |
| 18:38.52 | BabelO | that is why |
| 18:39.36 | BabelO | ok i take a paper and stick it on the screen |
| 18:39.38 | miknix | BabelO, pH5 just pulled, I'm at 2.6.26-rc1 head is @ 5717...7133 |
| 18:39.48 | pH5 | that's the one |
| 18:39.54 | BabelO | good :) |
| 18:40.24 | pH5 | BabelO: "git checkout -b <local_branch_name> origin/<remote_branch_name>" |
| 18:41.00 | miknix | BabelO, "git branch -r" to see the available remote branches and "git branch" to see local branches |
| 18:41.02 | BabelO | pH5: yeah i ve a note for qtopia git :), i have my own branch there |
| 18:41.12 | pH5 | ok :) |
| 18:41.37 | BabelO | pH5: but this is harder than scn or cvs |
| 18:41.57 | miknix | pH5, first time I used git I was amazed by the speed he cant detect file changes. does it use inotify or something? |
| 18:42.05 | miknix | s/cant/can/ |
| 18:42.22 | pH5 | BabelO: true, because the linuxtogo setup is a bit complicated (the stuff you want is in mainline, not just in the master branch) |
| 18:43.43 | BabelO | pH5: ok, i ve to reclone the git, or is there a reset state ? like git reset |
| 18:44.29 | paulproteus | pH5, BTW, as far as building openmoko-devel-image last night: |
| 18:44.32 | pH5 | miknix: no. it's just cleverly programmed |
| 18:44.36 | paulproteus | NOTE: package libglade-2.6.2: started |
| 18:44.36 | paulproteus | NOTE: package libglade-2.6.2-r2: task do_install: started |
| 18:44.36 | paulproteus | ERROR: function do_install failed |
| 18:44.36 | paulproteus | ERROR: log data follows (/home/paulproteus/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libglade-2.6.2-r2/temp/log.do_install.15811) |
| 18:44.36 | paulproteus | | NOTE: make DESTDIR=/home/paulproteus/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libglade-2.6.2-r2/image install |
| 18:44.39 | paulproteus | | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 18:44.41 | paulproteus | | FATAL: oe_runmake failed |
| 18:44.41 | pH5 | I guess it's mainly the result of http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitFaq#head-84f9d7fab736b38ad6563c94523f9fca25411f85 |
| 18:44.43 | paulproteus | NOTE: Task failed: /home/paulproteus/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libglade-2.6.2-r2/temp/log.do_install.15811 |
| 18:44.46 | paulproteus | NOTE: package libglade-2.6.2-r2: task do_install: failed |
| 18:44.48 | paulproteus | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 18:44.50 | paulproteus | Er, that was a little longer than I should have pasted, sorry. |
| 18:45.13 | pH5 | ~pastebin |
| 18:45.16 | apt | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 18:45.50 | paulproteus | pH5, Yeah, let me retry: http://pastebin.com/m12f68e84 |
| 18:45.51 | pH5 | BabelO: there is. |
| 18:46.00 | pH5 | what exactly do you want to do? |
| 18:46.29 | pH5 | paulproteus: better :) |
| 18:46.46 | BabelO | pH5: i want to remove my mistake of origin/mainline i ve locally |
| 18:46.55 | pH5 | to me this looks like there are leftover stamps for libglade, but the workdir got removed |
| 18:47.14 | pH5 | paulproteus: does it still fail if you force a rebuild with "bitbake -cclean libglade; bitbake libglade"? |
| 18:48.07 | paulproteus | pH5, Trying that now |
| 18:48.42 | pH5 | BabelO: origin is a remote. you can remove it with git remote rm origin and recreate with git remote add origin <git_url_for_linuxtogo> |
| 18:48.50 | pH5 | but I don't think that this is needed |
| 18:48.56 | paulproteus | pH5, Same issue. |
| 18:49.01 | BabelO | pH5: ok |
| 18:49.32 | patoche | BabelO: git reset --hard ? |
| 18:49.49 | pH5 | patoche: no, he hasn't even checked it out yet. |
| 18:49.55 | patoche | ah ok |
| 18:50.11 | cr2 | kiozen: qgis people compile gdal with mingw |
| 18:50.46 | kiozen | cr2: but I guess they are not lazy and use FWTools, are they? |
| 18:50.50 | BabelO | patoche, pH5 gitk -> right click on branch -> remove :) |
| 18:51.34 | patoche | BabelO: or git branch -D <local branccccccch :p |
| 18:51.36 | BabelO | pH5, miknix, patochethanks for the help |
| 18:52.10 | patoche | shit keyboard battery dying :/ |
| 18:52.35 | cr2 | kiozen: no, they do not use fwtools |
| 18:53.04 | kiozen | :) |
| 18:53.08 | miknix | BabelO, we can put the linuxtogo/mainline branch on my home server and start working on it to support htc wizard and artemis. |
| 18:54.15 | BabelO | miknix: last time i try your server, i get nothing after 4hour of git clone ;), it is ok with linuxtogo now, i create my artemis branch for diff and stay like this |
| 18:54.58 | miknix | BabelO, lol. cloning a git tree from zero takes time |
| 18:55.26 | miknix | BabelO, now we share the same branch, so the deltas to fetch are only a couple fast commits |
| 18:55.27 | BabelO | miknix: only 25mn for linuxtogo this afternoon |
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| 18:55.38 | pH5 | paulproteus: have a look in ~/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libglade-2.6.2-r2/libglade-2.6.2 |
| 18:55.46 | pH5 | are all the source files there? |
| 18:55.52 | paulproteus | Seems so. |
| 18:55.54 | pH5 | is there a Makefile? does it have an install target? |
| 18:56.14 | paulproteus | It seems to abruptly stop at the end. |
| 18:56.18 | miknix | BabelO, but do you have commit access to linuxtogo? I would like to work with you on it |
| 18:56.25 | paulproteus | It's fine except there's a .NOEXPORT: target at the end, and nothing after that. |
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| 18:56.34 | paulproteus | Well, actually, even that seems okay maybe. |
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| 18:57.03 | pH5 | strange. I can't see what is wrong from here. Maybe I'll hit the same issue sooner or later as RP just ordered a complete rebuild. |
| 18:58.31 | BabelO | miknix: no write, let me work only with diff ;) |
| 19:02.21 | miknix | BabelO, K.. just tell me when you want to start sharing code between our devices |
| 19:02.51 | BabelO | miknix: yes no problem, first step is to boot device with 2.6.26 :) |
| 19:03.45 | pH5 | BabelO: if you make your patches clean enough from the start you can just submit them to linux-omap |
| 19:04.28 | BabelO | pH5: oula, me and clean patch are not agree together :) |
| 19:04.45 | pH5 | ok, that was just hypothetical ;) |
| 19:06.04 | BabelO | pH5: i remember a question : did you know how can i add new cpu support ? i ve already done the part forarm926-ejs.S fileand omap id detection, but i miss the Kconfig step |
| 19:06.43 | miknix | BabelO, which was the last working kernel version in your artemis? |
| 19:07.03 | pH5 | BabelO: are Kconfig changes needed at all? |
| 19:07.43 | BabelO | miknix: 2.6.21-hh20 kernel, but i have note about what to change, so no problem |
| 19:07.47 | dcordes | cr2, do you think it would be worth trying smd out with the findings from yesterday? |
| 19:08.10 | BabelO | pH5: to be able to select OMAP850, yes. but i can continue with omap730 |
| 19:08.12 | miknix | BabelO, we have a working 2.6.25 |
| 19:08.26 | miknix | BabelO, I can make you a patch if you want |
| 19:08.41 | pH5 | ah ok, I see how we might want that to get a cpu_is_omap850() macro |
| 19:09.16 | BabelO | pH5: yes i found where is the macro in .h, but Kconfig need something else |
| 19:09.21 | miknix | pH5, BabelO at linwizard we already have a omap850 definition working on 2.6.25 |
| 19:09.32 | BabelO | miknix: yes please, i just need to change some .S files |
| 19:09.44 | pH5 | miknix: can you submit those changes to the linux-omap mailing list? |
| 19:10.02 | miknix | pH5, not me.. maybe silven. the changes are mostly from him |
| 19:11.14 | pH5 | it would be great to have this reviewed by the omap folks and upstream. I agree that the machine specific development should happen in our own repos as long as we are in experimentation phase, but this common stuff should be pushed upstream as soon as possible. |
| 19:11.58 | miknix | pH5, our linwizard repo is pretty clean. you might want to have a look at it |
| 19:12.23 | miknix | BabelO, git remote add polaris http://polaris.lurian.net/linwizard-kernel.git |
| 19:12.35 | BabelO | pH5: no ads7846 in mainline :) |
| 19:12.35 | miknix | BabelO, git fetch polaris |
| 19:13.13 | BabelO | miknix: can you do a git diff for me ? |
| 19:13.39 | miknix | BabelO, your fetch should be pretty quick |
| 19:13.43 | pH5 | miknix: thanks, I'll have a look. but I'm currently busy enough with pxa and magician, so it'd be great if you linwizard folks could take the initiative in pushing your omap850 changes. |
| 19:14.49 | miknix | pH5, we'll, just give push access to one of us. I've already filled a join request for the linuxtogo kern project |
| 19:15.38 | pH5 | miknix: I'm talking about linux-omap, you can always send patches. |
| 19:15.42 | kiozen | BabelO: pm |
| 19:16.00 | miknix | pH5, oh. I'll talk to silven then |
| 19:16.18 | pH5 | miknix: I'd be happy to grant you push access to mobile-linux, too. but that'd be just another copy of your linwizard repo at linuxtogo |
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| 19:17.37 | miknix | pH5, that was not my objective. I would like to work with BabelO to get a working kernel for both of devices (artemis and wizard) |
| 19:18.18 | dcordes | what about the other omaps in the wild? Isn't prophet very similar to wizard? |
| 19:18.29 | pH5 | miknix: I generally agree with that plan, but we should discuss this on the mobile-linux mailing list first. |
| 19:18.31 | miknix | dcordes, also. and tornado |
| 19:19.16 | dcordes | miknix, do you have an prophet owners at linwizard? |
| 19:19.44 | miknix | dcordes, I think so, there are at least three different devices there |
| 19:20.09 | pH5 | maybe we should have three branches (htc-pxa, htc-omap and htc-msm). I'm just not sure merging all of them is a good idea as long as msm is based on android, pxa is based on hh.org and omap is based on mainline. |
| 19:20.10 | dcordes | I can do some prophet testing too |
| 19:20.33 | miknix | IMHO it would be nice to open a repo for all HTC-omap devices |
| 19:21.23 | miknix | we all have your important changes for htc-omap devices, but none of us are benefiting much of other devices changes |
| 19:21.57 | exco | paulproteus: I let my phone "rest" overnight... so far no problems waking it up again... GSM stays onlin... battery discharges at less than 1% per hour |
| 19:22.04 | pH5 | miknix: agreed |
| 19:22.09 | dcordes | maybe you could to it the same way as we did with the msm. Just open a branch tracking mainline omap and another working omap tree to push the changes |
| 19:24.10 | miknix | we already have git infrasctructures and working repos for omap at linwizard. we dont mind that you create a branch for each device there. when we got something stable and working we can move all of it to a bigger repo |
| 19:24.22 | miknix | just an idea |
| 19:26.26 | cr2 | dcordes: i suggest you to add a mmutrace on the 0x1f* area (the full 1MB) and check the addresses that are writeen, and by which dlls |
| 19:26.45 | cr2 | guys, let me know when this whole git mess will be sorted out :D |
| 19:27.25 | pH5 | cr2: our main problem right now is not git, but missing asic3 support in 2.6.25.. |
| 19:29.28 | cr2 | pH5: asic3_mmc |
| 19:30.06 | pH5 | cr2: right. that and irq support and the update to gpio api :/ |
| 19:30.08 | cr2 | pH5: it's not about git itself, but about the endless distributed repositories |
| 19:30.50 | pH5 | cr2: I see that. the endless repositories will gain us nothing until people start pushing their patches upstream. |
| 19:30.58 | pH5 | with force |
| 19:31.09 | cr2 | pH5: i think the "core" asic3 gpio+irq driver is not that different from htc-egpio |
| 19:31.39 | cr2 | pH5: i admire your htc-egpio patch push to mainline. let's make asic3-egpio the next |
| 19:32.23 | cr2 | pH5: the pwm, ds1wm, led-pwm, pcmcia and spi don't really belong to core. let's fix and submit the core first. |
| 19:32.47 | cr2 | i see them as the same drivers like asic3_mmc |
| 19:33.57 | cr2 | let's follow the moko2 (how it's called?) asic. |
| 19:34.35 | pH5 | moko2 has a custom asic? |
| 19:34.44 | cr2 | glamo ? |
| 19:35.09 | cr2 | i really hate the way they 've done the sdio wifi. |
| 19:35.11 | pH5 | ah, that stupid video chip |
| 19:35.18 | pH5 | I haven't looked at that code at all. |
| 19:35.18 | cr2 | but the rest looks very good. |
| 19:35.28 | pH5 | should do that probably :) |
| 19:35.29 | cr2 | yeah, it's like ati. |
| 19:35.53 | cr2 | but i've guessed they asked ati first, but were declined. |
| 19:37.58 | cr2 | otherwise moko would have been a better hermes :) |
| 19:38.02 | cr2 | moko2 |
| 19:39.01 | cr2 | BabelO: do you have a "real" artemis+qtopia screenshot ? |
| 19:39.36 | cr2 | BabelO: we need it for the propaganda machine to work :) |
| 19:39.40 | BabelO | cr2: lol, no because i ve no camera :) and i boot only from usb |
| 19:40.05 | cr2 | hmm. use ba |
| 19:40.16 | BabelO | cr2: humm |
| 19:40.43 | cr2 | i've often used my old video cam for such pictures. |
| 19:43.13 | exco | do you need to hardreset the artemis after OM? |
| 19:43.30 | dcordes | BabelO, how do you make .cab installer files? |
| 19:43.49 | BabelO | dcordes: don't know, nerver do it :) |
| 19:43.55 | dcordes | ok anybody? |
| 19:44.22 | exco | dcordes: http://www.mobilepractices.com/2008/02/how-to-create-windows-mobile-smart.html |
| 19:44.32 | dcordes | microsoft visual cabinstall studio 2009 plus :D |
| 19:44.53 | dcordes | thanks exco |
| 19:45.43 | exco | np, dcordes (I don't know if that suits you ... Visual Studio and such) |
| 19:46.34 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:46.43 | cr2 | i think there were some perl tools ? |
| 19:47.12 | cr2 | cabwiz.exe should run in wine, and it's a part of the freely downloadable SDK |
| 19:47.38 | exco | you're looking for a linux solution to building cab files? |
| 19:47.44 | cr2 | dcordes: what about tracing the smem ? |
| 19:47.56 | dcordes | second |
| 19:48.02 | cr2 | exco: using windows is blasphemy :) |
| 19:48.10 | exco | :-) |
| 19:48.17 | pH5 | is looking forward to seeing htc release raphael specs |
| 19:48.28 | miknix | BabelO |
| 19:49.02 | BabelO | miknix: failed :( |
| 19:49.12 | cr2 | pH5: raphael ? is it some upcoming 7200A phone ? |
| 19:49.52 | cr2 | btw, somebody taked about sharp-something phone. isn't it 7200A ? |
| 19:49.53 | miknix | BabelO, http://miknix.homelinux.com/linwizard/dev/linwizard-vs-linuxtogo-mainline-2.6.25.diff.bz2 |
| 19:50.11 | pH5 | I guess. it would make sense for htc to stay with qualcomm, right. |
| 19:50.29 | miknix | BabelO, do git reset --hard e31a94ed371c70855eb30b77c490d6d85dd4da26 |
| 19:50.52 | miknix | BabelO, this will make your mainline HEAD to be at same position as patch |
| 19:51.25 | miknix | BabelO, applying the patch will put mainline exactly in the same state as our MMC branch in linwizard |
| 19:51.27 | dcordes | what about that ericsson qualcomm with the slideout keyboard? any specs there yet? |
| 19:51.31 | pH5 | or they're cheap and it's just a smaller kaiser with updated screen/exterior |
| 19:51.55 | dcordes | Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 |
| 19:51.57 | cr2 | pH5: that will be really lame. |
| 19:52.01 | cr2 | dcordes: right. |
| 19:52.06 | miknix | BabelO, good luck with that. going to eat |
| 19:52.12 | dcordes | it looks quite nice with decent resolution |
| 19:52.21 | BabelO | miknix: ok, so after i can go ahead to 2.6.26 ? |
| 19:52.36 | cr2 | dcordes: it uses wince ? |
| 19:52.48 | pH5 | yup, wvga is really nice. |
| 19:52.52 | dcordes | cr2, yea |
| 19:53.00 | dcordes | with some eyecandy on top of it |
| 19:53.12 | exco | but it looks like sh*** |
| 19:53.19 | miknix | BabelO, then you can git fetch and git merge |
| 19:53.21 | miknix | BabelO, that will update it to 2.6.26 |
| 19:53.37 | BabelO | miknix: ok, thanks i try it now |
| 19:54.19 | dcordes | cr2, http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/?lc=de&cc=de disover now!! |
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| 19:56.10 | pH5 | and still only four rows on the keyboard. stupid. |
| 19:57.18 | dcordes | that's a downer |
| 19:58.20 | dcordes | somebody in xda forum said he tried our images on an lg with msm7200 and it crashed upon running haret |
| 19:59.44 | dcordes | cr2, what's the size bit I need for 1mb? |
| 20:03.38 | dcordes | looking at the x1 gui makes me wonder if that uses the imageon |
| 20:07.36 | cr2 | To view this site you need Flash Player 8 (or higher). |
| 20:07.58 | cr2 | dcordes: 1MB 0x100000 |
| 20:08.20 | cr2 | dcordes: haret can crash if it runs unsigned on the "smartphone" |
| 20:08.32 | dcordes | cr2, ok. I did an addlist mmutrace p2v(0x01f00000) 0x1000 before and it crashed |
| 20:08.50 | dcordes | cr2, that guy said |
| 20:08.56 | dcordes | it restarted directly |
| 20:09.00 | cr2 | dcordes: 0x1000 ? |
| 20:09.27 | cr2 | should be 0x100000 |
| 20:09.36 | dcordes | yes was just trying out before. |
| 20:11.14 | dcordes | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1117 (xperia x1) |
| 20:12.00 | dcordes | 00: Mapping 95100000(@01f00000) accesses to e1100000 (tbl 01f00402) |
| 20:13.57 | exco | Xperia X1... android... |
| 20:15.08 | dcordes | exco, what about them? |
| 20:15.52 | cr2 | dcordes: so, does it crash now ? |
| 20:16.00 | dcordes | no crash |
| 20:16.15 | cr2 | dcordes: do you see any accesses ? |
| 20:16.20 | exco | we'll who'd want android on it if you can have OpenMoko? :-) |
| 20:17.37 | dcordes | cr2, http://pastebin.ca/1008614 |
| 20:18.18 | dcordes | exco, who was speaking of android on x1? I would prefer OM though |
| 20:19.15 | exco | well isn't it predestined with the MSM7200A |
| 20:19.49 | dcordes | you can also run android UI on other platforms |
| 20:20.15 | dcordes | there is nothing special that depends on low level in it afaik |
| 20:20.32 | cr2 | i think a lot of people simply do not understand what is android. |
| 20:21.07 | dcordes | a nice java graphical user interface |
| 20:21.09 | exco | we'll... it's googles shot at an OS for mobile devices, isn't it? |
| 20:21.32 | dcordes | no magic |
| 20:21.43 | cr2 | dcordes: wi 5 may be too short. does your phone work at the same time ? |
| 20:21.57 | dcordes | except of the $ behind it if you wanna call it magic |
| 20:22.10 | cr2 | exco: what you say is just some marketing talk. |
| 20:22.11 | dcordes | cr2, yep phone on |
| 20:22.27 | exco | since MS = "the devil" ... google = "the hero" ... it's gonna be a huge success... (well I don't quite agree on the first two statements) |
| 20:22.40 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:23.00 | cr2 | dcordes: wi 30 or wi 60 ? |
| 20:23.17 | dcordes | I'm running wirq 300 |
| 20:23.21 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:23.39 | dcordes | 050.314 IRQS IRQ: IRQ1(1)=1 |
| 20:23.39 | dcordes | 050.314 IRQS IRQ: IRQ2(2)=1 |
| 20:25.28 | exco | so what is Android, cr2? |
| 20:26.43 | dcordes | cr2, only get the 1 and 2 which do not appear when the phone is off |
| 20:26.59 | cr2 | dcordes: this is pita. |
| 20:26.59 | dcordes | see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
| 20:27.27 | cr2 | dcordes: add the irqs 32+ as marbalon pointed out. |
| 20:28.01 | cr2 | dcordes: so the phone uses channels 1 and 2. ok, that's at least something |
| 20:28.07 | dcordes | cr2, and 16, 19 but they are only display refresh |
| 20:28.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:28.24 | dcordes | and some button stuff? don't know |
| 20:28.44 | cr2 | it's interesting how they have hidded the memory access on kaiser, but not on 7500 devices. |
| 20:29.09 | exco | maybe they got lazy |
| 20:29.18 | dcordes | I hope dzo will respond to my mail. I asked him how he figured them on vogue |
| 20:29.25 | cr2 | dcordes: i've corrected the DMOV things yesterday, can you trace that area with BT on ? |
| 20:29.39 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:29.47 | dcordes | what do you mean with 32+ irqs? |
| 20:29.49 | cr2 | dcordes: if 0x1f* is traceable on 7500, then it'd have been trivial to do. |
| 20:30.04 | dcordes | I'll see what he says |
| 20:30.04 | cr2 | dcordes: we have only 31 irq now in the table. |
| 20:30.26 | dcordes | and marbalon figured we have more than that? |
| 20:30.54 | cr2 | i think he has checked the linux-msm code |
| 20:32.01 | dcordes | cr2, which of the dmov areas? |
| 20:34.33 | dcordes | wonders where infernix Raven_coda and friends are :P |
| 20:37.59 | cr2 | dcordes: i think MSM_DMOV aARM |
| 20:38.08 | cr2 | i doubt you'll access the others. |
| 20:38.21 | dcordes | cr2, can you look at? http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/irq.c;h=e370097320c04ec3f9b0f92c49930e25ff4c7bab;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm |
| 20:39.33 | cr2 | dcordes: i think it was .h |
| 20:40.48 | dcordes | I see. it lists an additional 32+(0-21) there |
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| 20:43.30 | dcordes | cr2, /* 22-31 are reserved */ and that. can you look at it? I'm confused |
| 20:44.25 | dcordes | cr2, what size for MSM_DMOV aARM? |
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| 20:46.18 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/vAJUmc24.html, |
| 20:51.02 | cr2 | dcordes: hm. ok. |
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| 21:14.36 | dcordes | cr2, did you look at the irqs.h? |
| 21:15.05 | cr2 | dcordes: already added the irqs |
| 21:15.11 | dcordes | ok thanks |
| 21:15.25 | cr2 | some of them must be wrong |
| 21:15.47 | cr2 | the SD irqs for example, but you can check. |
| 21:15.57 | cr2 | where are the sd and wifi irq |
| 21:16.08 | dcordes | yea we don't have 3 and 4 |
| 21:16.34 | cr2 | insert/remove the SD card while tracing irq |
| 21:17.05 | dcordes | that will only spit 6 iirc SD Insert/Eject, vibration, lcd on/off, USB Insert/Eject , |
| 21:18.43 | cr2 | no irq ? |
| 21:19.14 | dcordes | irq 6 |
| 21:19.53 | cr2 | ok, so channel 6. |
| 21:20.13 | dcordes | cr2, Isn't that only the detect? |
| 21:20.51 | dcordes | 6 definetly shows after inserting and ejecting. in both cases followed by a row of 16s and 19s |
| 21:21.55 | dcordes | although I don't see the display being refreshed |
| 21:25.27 | dcordes | cr2, I won't figure out more irqs than I already documented in the wiki |
| 21:26.49 | BabelO | do i miss pH5 ? :) |
| 21:26.51 | BabelO | noo |
| 21:27.07 | BabelO | pH5: what is the new thing which replace gpiodev2 api in mainline ? |
| 21:27.55 | pH5 | gpio API + gpiolib |
| 21:28.04 | pH5 | the code is in drivers/gpio |
| 21:28.26 | pH5 | and usually arch/arm/mach-xxx/gpio.[ch] |
| 21:28.29 | BabelO | pH5: ok :) |
| 21:28.35 | dcordes | cr2, nothing new... bluetooth still shows 21 and I don't see any irqs beyond the once documented |
| 21:28.41 | pH5 | headers are linux/gpio.h and that includes asm/gpio.h, asm/arch/gpio.h |
| 21:28.43 | dcordes | s/once/ones/ |
| 21:28.58 | pH5 | Documentation/gpio.txt for the overview |
| 21:29.00 | cr2 | dcordes: i guess the irq32+ are not traced now |
| 21:29.29 | cr2 | pH5: is there something generic for the gpio_alt() available ? |
| 21:29.37 | pH5 | no |
| 21:30.14 | cr2 | pH5: it's a must for msm7x00. androids can't help here, because they do it over rpc |
| 21:30.22 | pH5 | there is something for pxa2xx and pxa3xx combined (MFP) |
| 21:30.28 | pH5 | but in general each arch is on its own |
| 21:30.38 | cr2 | hmm. that's bad. |
| 21:30.44 | paulproteus | exco, That's great! I found that GSM seemed to disconnect once during the day. |
| 21:30.44 | pH5 | they are just too different |
| 21:30.47 | cr2 | we need it also for asic3. |
| 21:31.09 | paulproteus | pH5, Sorry if I missed an answer - did you have any ideas what to do about the failure of libglade at http://pastebin.com/m12f68e84 ? |
| 21:31.13 | paulproteus | (And does it work for you?) |
| 21:31.16 | cr2 | _alt(int gpio, int func) will be enough. |
| 21:31.44 | cr2 | whihc can be overridden by the arch- code. |
| 21:32.20 | pH5 | cr2: as this alt func is fixed, it might make sense to model it after the pxa mfp code, which just takes a list of integers with nice self-explanatory #defines |
| 21:32.49 | cr2 | pH5: hmm. ok, need to check the pxa3xx code. |
| 21:33.33 | pH5 | paulproteus: no, I have no idea yet. |
| 21:33.53 | pH5 | my build machine is slow, today I won't get past the toolchain anymore. |
| 21:34.08 | paulproteus | pH5, If it doesn't work at all, I guess the thing to do is file a bug in OE? (This is my first time seeing a failure.) |
| 21:34.22 | paulproteus | (A failure that I'm fairly confident isn't my fault, that is.) |
| 21:34.28 | miknix | BabelO, how is it going? |
| 21:34.42 | BabelO | miknix: compiling :) |
| 21:34.59 | BabelO | miknix: but i m in kitche at same time :) |
| 21:35.09 | cr2 | BabelO: is there any omap850 device with working i2c ? |
| 21:35.25 | miknix | BabelO, are you compiling with omap850 definitions? |
| 21:35.29 | BabelO | cr2: yes mine :) once i found the irq bug |
| 21:35.35 | BabelO | miknix: yes |
| 21:35.38 | paulproteus | A bug in Angstrom, maybe instead? |
| 21:35.44 | pH5 | paulproteus: yeah, or ask on #oe if somebody can quickly verify |
| 21:36.05 | miknix | BabelO, any other change or just the omap850 defs? |
| 21:37.58 | dcordes | cr2, does that require a change in the haret source? |
| 21:38.03 | dcordes | regs-msm.py |
| 21:39.09 | cr2 | dcordes: smd7 is gps ? |
| 21:39.34 | dcordes | shrugs |
| 21:39.50 | dcordes | smd are the shared mem interfaces? |
| 21:39.55 | dcordes | or channels or whatever |
| 21:40.06 | cr2 | dcordes: where is the second irq reg ? |
| 21:40.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.56 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:40.58 | cr2 | add |
| 21:41.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.15 | cr2 | to regs-msm.py |
| 21:42.16 | BabelO | miknix: i m looking at htcegpio else lcd is wrong |
| 21:42.33 | cr2 | dcordes: and |
| 21:42.46 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.58 | miknix | BabelO, ok. I dont know if you could read my PM. there are ppl having trouble with it |
| 21:44.00 | dcordes | cr2, that hit some nerve. 33 flooding maybe that is one of the sdc |
| 21:46.29 | cr2 | dcordes: what does the list say ? |
| 21:46.40 | cr2 | use 'ibit irqs' to mask it. |
| 21:46.50 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.42 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:47.44 | cr2 | mask it. |
| 21:48.56 | dcordes | cr2, the sd insert/eject 6 irqs are now followed by two 32 irqs now |
| 21:49.02 | dcordes | always |
| 21:51.09 | dcordes | cr2, phone still shows 1 and 2 |
| 21:51.12 | cr2 | gpio SD detect |
| 21:51.24 | cr2 | ok, what about BT on/off ? |
| 21:51.29 | dcordes | and bluetooth got an additional 45 |
| 21:51.37 | cr2 | sjould be UART1DM imho. |
| 21:52.03 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:52.44 | cr2 | edited wiki |
| 21:52.46 | dcordes | I will add the two |
| 21:52.56 | cr2 | dcordes: gps is on ? |
| 21:53.11 | dcordes | didn't try no |
| 21:53.32 | cr2 | try it. either it uses the ATCMD buffer, or its own channel. |
| 21:54.20 | dcordes | cr2, isn't there qt for wm so I can try qlandkarte gt? |
| 21:54.26 | dcordes | I have no gps app right now |
| 21:54.36 | cr2 | you may also try to trigger the NAND, I2C and USB irqs |
| 21:55.13 | cr2 | qlandkarteM, but nobody has compiled it afaik. |
| 21:55.32 | cr2 | i don't have msvc, so can't do it. |
| 21:55.53 | cr2 | you may try roadmap for wince. |
| 21:56.13 | cr2 | hmm. i need to compile the OSM map for NRW. |
| 21:56.53 | cr2 | but it doesn't support reading from the gps port. yet. |
| 21:56.53 | dcordes | cr2, nothing new with usb only 6 detect and 15 activity |
| 21:56.55 | miknix | hum... |
| 21:57.00 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:57.02 | miknix | "roadmap to cairo" |
| 21:57.11 | dcordes | cr2, concerning nand I wrote a file from sd to nand and there was nothing |
| 21:57.25 | cr2 | miknix: roadmap works even on the iphone :) |
| 21:57.39 | cr2 | miknix: with the native api. |
| 21:57.50 | cr2 | dcordes: ok. |
| 21:58.06 | dcordes | cr2, how would I trigger i2c irqs? |
| 21:58.09 | miknix | cr2, lol.. "roadmap to cairo" is an history about microsft FUDware since the beginning |
| 21:58.15 | cr2 | dcordes: touchscreen |
| 21:58.50 | cr2 | miknix: lol. afaik there is no cairo driver for roadmap. only plain gtk2. |
| 21:59.25 | miknix | cr2, lol. I'm totally offtopic |
| 22:00.03 | miknix | cr2, cairo was a propaganda name for a totally unreleased OS from microsoft |
| 22:00.25 | cr2 | yes, i remember. |
| 22:00.56 | miknix | aha! |
| 22:01.00 | miknix | found the article |
| 22:01.02 | miknix | cr2, http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Q4.06/4E2A8848-5738-45B1-A659-AD7473899D7D.html |
| 22:01.29 | cr2 | http://cairographics.org |
| 22:01.41 | miknix | "Microsoft's Yellow Road to Cairo", not roadmap though :p |
| 22:02.04 | miknix | cr2, yeah.. I know cairo the graphics lib for gtk |
| 22:03.30 | dcordes | cr2, I whish I could get rid of the wifi connection |
| 22:03.43 | cr2 | dcordes: usb ? |
| 22:03.58 | dcordes | I tried to setup synce once |
| 22:04.06 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:04.08 | dcordes | didn't manage to establish connection |
| 22:04.25 | cr2 | yes, i don't try it myself too. |
| 22:04.39 | cr2 | rndis is evil. |
| 22:04.51 | dcordes | cr2, is it reachable when I boot a windows in the same network as my harteconsole pc and connect it there with active sync? |
| 22:05.28 | cr2 | i think so. |
| 22:05.32 | cr2 | ask BabelO |
| 22:05.48 | cr2 | you don't see the i2c irq ? |
| 22:06.15 | dcordes | wait I did a reboot and stuff |
| 22:06.16 | BabelO | usb-rndis-lite + odccm that is the solution |
| 22:06.27 | dcordes | had two instances of haret open ^^ |
| 22:07.09 | dcordes | cr2, ok no irq when I touch the screen and cause no redraw |
| 22:07.14 | cr2 | dcordes: hmm. maybe we should document the 0xac04* locations. a painful way, but it will certainly provide some progress. |
| 22:09.44 | cr2 | this agps thing is a huge spyware scam ;) |
| 22:11.00 | exco | paulproteus: If I can do anything let me know |
| 22:12.47 | cr2 | dcordes: btw, what about camera ? |
| 22:12.59 | dcordes | cr2, you mean bitte aktualisieren sie ihre gps daten? |
| 22:15.24 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 22:15.34 | dcordes | did you look at the code? what does it send? |
| 22:15.53 | cr2 | i think it has a builtin webserver there :) |
| 22:15.54 | dcordes | disassembly I mean rather than code |
| 22:16.17 | cr2 | at least the qualcomm addresses are hardcoded there. |
| 22:18.37 | *** join/#htc-linux CVirus (n=GoD@82.201.178.114) |
| 22:19.11 | paulproteus | exco, For one thing, it'd be great if you'd document the current state of things somewhere. |
| 22:19.17 | paulproteus | The recommended image, what works in it. |
| 22:19.34 | paulproteus | I'm chatting on #oe about getting the openmoko-devel-image to build, and it might succeed. |
| 22:19.46 | exco | I'll join that |
| 22:19.48 | paulproteus | The HH.org wiki page for Magician would be great. |
| 22:19.50 | paulproteus | Great. |
| 22:21.21 | BabelO | cr2: htc-egpio in mainline is done for you |
| 22:23.38 | cr2 | BabelO: hmm. time to copy n560 and athena there ? |
| 22:24.01 | cr2 | BabelO: but i guess there are some api changes for htc-egpio |
| 22:24.10 | cr2 | so it's not just 1:1 copy |
| 22:24.28 | miknix | BabelO, I created a new repo at http://miknix.homelinux.com/linwizard/htc-omap.git |
| 22:24.43 | miknix | BabelO, the repo is a clone of linuxtogo |
| 22:24.55 | dcordes | cr2, camera is 18 and 22 -(16, 19) |
| 22:25.08 | exco | I'd say the recommended image is goxbox OE |
| 22:25.13 | paulproteus | OM |
| 22:25.15 | paulproteus | But right. |
| 22:25.16 | exco | but it's more than 4 months old |
| 22:25.26 | paulproteus | Didn't you say it's faster with your kernel? |
| 22:25.40 | exco | I can't say the least what has changed since (regarding Magician) |
| 22:26.39 | cr2 | dcordes: add to wiki |
| 22:26.43 | dcordes | cr2, I see 18 and 22 flowing all the time when camera is on. when I switch between front and back camera, I see a short sequence of 1s and 2s |
| 22:26.47 | paulproteus | I don't think there's been any Magician-specific work since then. |
| 22:27.00 | exco | I would definitely say the Armstrong image (but that also runs OE ui?) runs way smoother with the hh20 compared to hh17 kernel it came with |
| 22:27.01 | dcordes | cr2, and then again 18 and 22 |
| 22:27.02 | paulproteus | But openmoko.com guys have been improving the OpenMoko software steadily. |
| 22:27.16 | paulproteus | exco, You keep saying OE (which stands for OpenEmbedded) where OpenMoko (OM) is appropriate. |
| 22:27.31 | exco | sorry, I meant OM (typo) |
| 22:27.47 | BabelO | cr2: yes there is change, like multiple cpld support ;) |
| 22:27.57 | BabelO | cr2: but i don't found the pins init thing |
| 22:27.59 | cr2 | dcordes: 1a should be cam reset |
| 22:28.01 | dcordes | paulproteus, you bet. there is happening a lot |
| 22:28.04 | miknix | BabelO, dcordes what do you think of using http://miknix.homelinux.com/linwizard/htc-omap.git for our HTC-OMAP devices? I'll give push access to both |
| 22:28.10 | exco | paulproteus: that (hh17) might be the reason why GSM doesn't work with the angstrom (typo's may accur (armstrong)) |
| 22:28.22 | paulproteus | Heh, Armstrong indeed. |
| 22:28.29 | paulproteus | dcordes, Yes, I'm very excited to see if I can build a fresher OM image@ |
| 22:28.30 | cr2 | BabelO: i used 2 htc-egpios from the very beginning. |
| 22:28.30 | paulproteus | @ |
| 22:28.32 | paulproteus | ! |
| 22:28.35 | cr2 | BabelO: on athena |
| 22:28.38 | paulproteus | (typos may occur...) |
| 22:28.42 | dcordes | paulproteus, is your device qvga? |
| 22:28.47 | paulproteus | dcordes, Yes. |
| 22:28.47 | exco | I tried that hh17 with the OM image and GSM didn't work! with the hh18 and hh20 the GSM works |
| 22:28.49 | patoche_ | last things for magician are here or there is more new somewhere ? |
| 22:28.56 | patoche_ | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
| 22:29.04 | paulproteus | patoche_, That's the latest - I'm working on a fresher image right now. |
| 22:29.26 | exco | paulproteus: you can check (there's an hh17 kernel included in the tar) and I can send you the hh20 one (incl. modules) .. |
| 22:29.28 | dcordes | cr2, also when (one of the) cameras are switched on I see the 1 and 2 |
| 22:29.49 | paulproteus | exco, It's okay, I believe you. (-: |
| 22:29.53 | paulproteus | I have enough other stuff to do. |
| 22:29.53 | patoche_ | paulproteus: ok kool |
| 22:29.59 | BabelO | miknix: wait, i try to compile |
| 22:30.31 | BabelO | paulproteus: you can try qtopia on magician, take my tree at qtopia git |
| 22:30.35 | cr2 | dcordes: and no i2c ? |
| 22:30.45 | paulproteus | BabelO, Do you think it will Just Work with no modifications? |
| 22:30.52 | paulproteus | BabelO, And I forgot how to compile Qtopia, it's been so long... |
| 22:31.19 | paulproteus | exco, Maybe you could try building Qtopia and seeing if that works actually! |
| 22:31.26 | dcordes | <dcordes> cr2, ok no irq when I touch the screen and cause no redraw |
| 22:31.38 | paulproteus | I can't spend a lot of time time on the Magician today, I'm going to be really busy. |
| 22:31.40 | cr2 | dcordes: dump 'wince dmesg' after you've used the CAM |
| 22:32.20 | dcordes | cr2, what do you mean exactly by after I've used it? |
| 22:33.05 | cr2 | dcordes: dump the dmesg area now. and run 'strings' and 'strings -el' on it. |
| 22:33.37 | BabelO | paulproteus: uh no modification, yes i forgot how gprs works on magician |
| 22:33.54 | cr2 | dcordes: then grep -i for physical and virtual |
| 22:34.21 | exco | as I remember the hh20 win combination with the Armstrong didn't enable GSM though (I thought n_ti.. might have sth to do with that - but you said it was enabled ... so ...) |
| 22:34.39 | paulproteus | exco, Yeah - I wonder why that was. |
| 22:34.57 | paulproteus | exco, You could try to debug it, but hopefully we won't have to if my more recent Angstrom build works... |
| 22:35.06 | paulproteus | exco, You should try to put Qtopia on top of the OM image in my opinion. |
| 22:35.59 | exco | do you want to go Qtopia instead of OM or what do you expect to gain ? |
| 22:36.34 | paulproteus | I want to be able to switch between the Qtopia phone UI and the OpenMoko phone UI. |
| 22:36.43 | paulproteus | The Qtopia one looks nicer, as of a few months ago, and was more stable. |
| 22:36.50 | paulproteus | But lately the OpenMoko one might be catching up. |
| 22:36.57 | paulproteus | It would be nice to be able to choose based on preference. |
| 22:37.26 | exco | it would of course be nice to have an image with both options |
| 22:37.40 | paulproteus | exco, Exactly - so therefore a good experiment will be to see how close Qtopia is to working right now. |
| 22:38.01 | exco | I'm not sure I can manage |
| 22:38.17 | dcordes | cr2, had to reboot |
| 22:38.31 | exco | so we have that 4 months old qtopia image - guess we're not interested in that one |
| 22:38.36 | paulproteus | "All" you'll need to do is figure out how to clone BabelO's git tree of Qtopia, figure out how to compile it, and then figure out how to make it start at startup instead of the OpenMoko. |
| 22:38.47 | paulproteus | exco, No - that's an old release of Qtopia. BabelO's working with the 4.3.x branch. |
| 22:38.57 | dcordes | cr2, how do I make the dump? |
| 22:39.18 | paulproteus | As for cloning BabelO's git tree, there are sort-of instructions at http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Qtopia |
| 22:39.26 | exco | (we also have 4.3.0?) |
| 22:39.35 | paulproteus | exco, I don't understand your question? |
| 22:39.48 | paulproteus | exco, I'm saying the image by goxboxlive on htcpxa used an older branch of Qtopia than 4.3.0. |
| 22:40.15 | exco | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.39 | paulproteus | Oh, really? URL? |
| 22:41.01 | BabelO | paulproteus: you can simply download my image at linuxtogo and replace the zimage / modules |
| 22:41.06 | exco | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/O.P.I.E-II/ |
| 22:41.32 | paulproteus | exco, Follow BabelO's advice. (-: |
| 22:41.47 | paulproteus | exco, I must have mis-read that - thanks for pointing it out! |
| 22:41.54 | exco | but it's dated Oct. 28th so that's probably not possible to have 4.3.0? |
| 22:41.57 | paulproteus | But BabelO's will still be half a year newer, which is good. |
| 22:42.06 | cr2 | dcordes: pwf |
| 22:42.18 | exco | I'll get right on it |
| 22:42.18 | cr2 | dcordes: i've added the CAM gpios |
| 22:42.23 | cr2 | dcordes: into wiki |
| 22:42.36 | paulproteus | exco, Thanks for your persistence! |
| 22:42.52 | exco | thanks for mentoring :-) |
| 22:43.37 | exco | BabelO: do you by chance have an URL at hand? |
| 22:43.44 | cr2 | dcordes: the list looks much better now. |
| 22:44.00 | dcordes | cr2, thanks forgot about that |
| 22:44.06 | BabelO | exco: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/ |
| 22:44.14 | BabelO | exco: take the bz2, unpack to your sd |
| 22:44.32 | dcordes | cr2, I bet marbalon has a bunch of entries which could go there |
| 22:44.35 | BabelO | exco: then under sd install just tale startup.txt |
| 22:45.27 | exco | thanks, BabelO |
| 22:45.41 | cr2 | dcordes: OV7670 and samsung |
| 22:45.45 | cr2 | 2 cams |
| 22:45.53 | cr2 | is there a 7670 linux driver ? |
| 22:45.59 | dcordes | googles |
| 22:46.19 | exco | paulproteus: as to the http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician I think it's up to date or am I missing sth? |
| 22:46.43 | cr2 | S5K3C1FX03 |
| 22:47.20 | cr2 | hehe :) |
| 22:47.22 | cr2 | http://www.riddle.ru/dl/ccd/samsung/ds_s5k3c1fx_rev012.pdf |
| 22:47.40 | dcordes | cr2, what is pwf /?/?/ |
| 22:48.12 | cr2 | BabelO: check the link above :) |
| 22:48.27 | exco | BabelO: that tar.bz2 file normally can be put on a fat partition with the exe and then generates an image about 100MB, am I right? |
| 22:48.32 | dcordes | that looks like a nice documentation |
| 22:50.01 | BabelO | exco: yes 200Mb for this one |
| 22:50.53 | exco | BabelO: can you please explain what happens in the process (I mean the tar.bz2 doesn't just get converted to the image, does it?) |
| 22:51.55 | cr2 | dcordes: http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/20/drivers/media/video/ov7670.c |
| 22:52.05 | BabelO | cr2: interesting have to check it next time i dump i2C |
| 22:52.17 | cr2 | OLPC |
| 22:52.22 | cr2 | uses ov7670 |
| 22:52.36 | cr2 | BabelO: is it the same cam ? |
| 22:52.49 | exco | btw do you have a convention how the usb0 is set up in your images (for ssh) or is it individual? |
| 22:53.34 | BabelO | exco: .exe start kernel -> initrd -> create .img ext2 file -> uncompress bz2 in .img -> switch root ( aka pivot root) |
| 22:53.52 | dcordes | cr2, you think we will get those going? I noticed most htcs lack camera support |
| 22:54.04 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, after a dump i can told you :) |
| 22:54.18 | cr2 | S5K3BAFB :( |
| 22:54.30 | cr2 | on athena/hermes |
| 22:54.49 | dcordes | those don't have drivers/proper doku? |
| 22:56.03 | exco | BabelO: so if I would just extract everything to the ext partition and start it with hret + zimage it would'nt be the same? |
| 22:56.46 | exco | I mean if I mounted that image and compared it to the extracted files there would be the customizations missing? |
| 22:56.59 | BabelO | exco: yes that is what i told you to do , it is the same |
| 22:57.31 | exco | hence startup.txt |
| 22:57.55 | cr2 | BabelO: looks like a dropbox site. |
| 22:58.06 | cr2 | BabelO: check related on google |
| 22:58.09 | exco | sorry that was just plain dumb |
| 23:02.49 | dcordes | cr2, could you give me the full command to get dmesg dumped? |
| 23:03.23 | exco | sorry, but I have a problem understanding here... |
| 23:03.23 | exco | I have such a tar exe combination - and I tried to figure it out the last day |
| 23:03.23 | exco | but when I mount that generated img and compare it to the extracted folders |
| 23:03.23 | exco | I have a difference of a few hundred files - and BabelO you're saying it should be the same - or did I missunderstand you? |
| 23:04.22 | BabelO | exco: use my whole file, i spent time to do all the stuff :) |
| 23:04.48 | BabelO | exco: create a ext2 partition |
| 23:05.09 | exco | I will (I'm just trying to learn in the process) |
| 23:06.16 | exco | I have that sd ready... and will tell you in a few minutes if it works |
| 23:06.46 | cr2 | dcordes: pwf kdmesg 0x10100000 0x200000 |
| 23:07.16 | BabelO | miknix: your 2.6.25 patch does not boot :( |
| 23:07.24 | cr2 | ooh. qtv talks directly to the adsp ;) |
| 23:07.52 | miknix | BabelO, did you merge with 2.6.26? |
| 23:08.13 | BabelO | miknix: no, just your patch and i keep wizard config to try |
| 23:08.24 | exco | BabelO: files inside img = files inside tar.bz without further modification (yes no)? |
| 23:08.30 | miknix | BabelO, and did you reset to the commit I have you? |
| 23:08.57 | BabelO | miknix: i reset everything to 2.6.25 |
| 23:09.11 | miknix | BabelO, it should boot then |
| 23:09.18 | miknix | BabelO, at least it boot for us |
| 23:09.47 | miknix | BabelO, did the patch apply nicely? |
| 23:10.46 | BabelO | yes |
| 23:11.40 | miknix | BabelO, that should make your branch exactly as our MMC branch |
| 23:13.02 | dcordes | cr2, with 16bit little endian encoding it's empty |
| 23:13.07 | exco | is now known for being slow on the uptake |
| 23:14.39 | dcordes | cr2, what do you look for inside the strings? |
| 23:15.55 | dcordes | there is some power management change followed by enable/disable settings like CAMERA : ENABLE |
| 23:16.16 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[1].PhysAddress: 0x00100400 |
| 23:16.16 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[1].VirtAddress: 0x50d00400 |
| 23:16.17 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[1].VirtAddressCached: 0x50d00400 |
| 23:16.17 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[1].length: 345600 |
| 23:16.23 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[2].PhysAddress: 0x00154c00 |
| 23:16.23 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[2].VirtAddress: 0x50d54c00 |
| 23:16.23 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[2].VirtAddressCached: 0x50d54c00 |
| 23:16.23 | dcordes | 05/04/2008 22:10:33 [D :: CAMERA] gBMList[2].length: 345600 |
| 23:16.24 | dcordes | oops |
| 23:16.26 | cr2 | dcordes: ok. |
| 23:17.05 | dcordes | I can email you the whole text. it's huge |
| 23:17.26 | dcordes | 17221 lines |
| 23:17.26 | cr2 | don't need it. i've already got an idea. |
| 23:17.42 | dcordes | and cameras occure often |
| 23:18.22 | miknix | BabelO, did you try the MMC branch? you already have all the changes. so fetching from linwizard repo should be quick |
| 23:23.03 | BabelO | miknix: i go to bed now, i ll try tomorrow |
| 23:23.13 | miknix | BabelO, K. good night |
| 23:24.23 | BabelO | good night |
| 23:26.38 | exco | getting segmentation fault with screen turning white and back to the console every 2s isn't a good sign I guess |
| 23:33.44 | cr2 | dcordes: does the ts work ? |
| 23:33.50 | dcordes | in linux yes |
| 23:34.04 | dcordes | perfectly since marbalon's latest update |
| 23:34.20 | dcordes | look at the code tsc2003.c I think |
| 23:34.30 | dcordes | you know where kaiser kernel is? |
| 23:35.17 | cr2 | no, since dzo sets the +0x68 reg for i2c clock, but i see +0x64 |
| 23:35.36 | cr2 | found the SDA/SCL gpios. |
| 23:38.53 | dcordes | what are SDA SCL? |
| 23:39.08 | dcordes | overwhelmning load of abbreviations in all this |
| 23:39.42 | dcordes | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/htc-msm;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm |
| 23:40.12 | cr2 | I2C lines |
| 23:40.36 | exco | paulproteus: do you have a moment |
| 23:41.02 | dcordes | cr2, as I say, TS is perfect |
| 23:41.47 | cr2 | ok, but it may be just wince |
| 23:43.26 | dcordes | cr2, ? no in linux |
| 23:44.37 | dcordes | cr2, you mean it is only working with wince settings in arm9? |
| 23:46.10 | cr2 | yes |
| 23:46.18 | cr2 | something to ask dzo about. |
| 23:47.22 | dcordes | for now that's ok |
| 23:47.37 | dcordes | cr2, when I think about priorities, what can we do to get SD working? |
| 23:47.45 | dcordes | or better said what are we missing |
| 23:51.32 | cr2 | dcordes: do you see t he dwStart4KAddr string in dmesg ? |
| 23:55.51 | dcordes | cr2, yes several blobs of those lines with varying line count |
| 23:56.29 | cr2 | pastebin ? |
| 23:57.05 | dcordes | cat kaiser-dmesg.strings | grep dwStart4KAddr | wc -l |
| 23:57.05 | dcordes | 66 |
| 23:57.14 | dcordes | you only want those lines or also periphery? |
| 23:58.10 | cr2 | only the lines |
| 23:58.21 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/rnUIXe16.html |
| 23:58.35 | dcordes | what is it? |
| 23:58.50 | cr2 | dcordes: btw, can you trace the 0x90000 area ? |
| 23:59.06 | dcordes | a minute what size? |
| 23:59.08 | cr2 | addlist mmutrace p2v(0x90000) 0x1000 |
| 23:59.12 | dcordes | k |