| 00:18.12 | cr2 | BabelO: how do i change the alpha value in gimp ? i want to see 2 layers simultaneously |
| 00:19.29 | BabelO | cr2: it is in tool box, you need to click and get an eye displayed |
| 00:25.45 | cr2 | BabelO: hmm. |
| 00:26.18 | BabelO | cr2: it is in the layer toolbox, if it is not only background layer |
| 00:26.24 | cr2 | 2 layers, 4 channels |
| 00:26.31 | BabelO | else you can merge it |
| 00:26.44 | cr2 | i want to shift the second layer |
| 00:27.24 | cr2 | Layer->Transparency-> ? |
| 00:27.53 | BabelO | also a solution |
| 00:28.11 | cr2 | but i don't see the background |
| 00:30.50 | BabelO | cr2: it depend of you base layer and the order |
| 00:31.29 | BabelO | cr2: http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer/Support/Downloads/tablet/en_GB/wfnavigator/ |
| 00:33.50 | cr2 | BabelO: .qt ? |
| 00:35.25 | BabelO | cr2: don't think it is for tablets |
| 00:35.32 | BabelO | cr2: but you see the map file ? ;) |
| 00:35.48 | cr2 | .zip has .qt files |
| 00:36.01 | cr2 | 770 is not a tablet ? |
| 00:36.18 | BabelO | 770 800 and 810 are tablet |
| 00:36.36 | cr2 | n800 too |
| 00:36.47 | cr2 | http://www.navicoretech.com/Consumer/Support/Compatibility/2007/en_GB/2007_1/ |
| 00:37.02 | BabelO | projection="wgs84://103,1,-1000000,-1000000" |
| 00:37.10 | BabelO | maybe we can reuse thios works ;) |
| 00:38.23 | cr2 | graph.bin :) |
| 00:38.57 | BabelO | .qt file seem to be layers |
| 00:40.32 | cr2 | BabelO: 78 DA :D |
| 00:40.41 | BabelO | strange company , they put map for free ... |
| 00:40.59 | cr2 | nokia maps are free too. |
| 00:41.09 | cr2 | unless you want the route planning. |
| 00:41.17 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:41.24 | cr2 | BabelO: you know what 78 DA means :) |
| 00:41.34 | BabelO | no :) |
| 00:42.09 | cr2 | there is a header in the .qt file |
| 00:42.17 | cr2 | with lots of zeros |
| 00:42.38 | cr2 | but then the file become very dense, looking like random junk. |
| 00:42.44 | cr2 | ok ? |
| 00:42.59 | BabelO | ok |
| 00:43.27 | cr2 | the junk block begins with 78 DA |
| 00:43.34 | cr2 | 0x78 0xDA |
| 00:43.55 | cr2 | it usually means the zlib sig. |
| 00:44.16 | BabelO | oh , you know your traditionnal numbers ;) |
| 00:44.22 | cr2 | this stuff is compressed with gzip aka deflate, and can be decompressed with zlib. |
| 00:44.39 | cr2 | yeah :) |
| 00:45.15 | cr2 | the header has fixed size probably |
| 00:45.25 | cr2 | need to compare the .qt files. |
| 00:47.22 | cr2 | btw, search for "ox78 0xda" |
| 00:47.26 | cr2 | http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89230 |
| 00:48.03 | cr2 | it's a very well known sig, every linux hacker must know. |
| 00:48.17 | cr2 | for gzip -9 |
| 00:48.28 | cr2 | gzip -1 will have a different sig. |
| 00:48.38 | cr2 | but everybody uses -9 |
| 00:49.03 | BabelO | cr2: i just open it with ghex |
| 00:49.12 | cr2 | mc |
| 00:49.25 | BabelO | yeah i know, ncurses is better ;) |
| 00:50.11 | cr2 | the header size differs |
| 00:50.22 | cr2 | but the junk always start with 0x78 0xda |
| 00:51.02 | cr2 | alk also uses some zip-like compression, but i didn't grok which one. |
| 00:52.19 | BabelO | cr2: but i just compress a gzip file and 78 da is not on stgart |
| 00:52.30 | cr2 | gzip file has a header too. |
| 00:52.45 | BabelO | yes but very big header |
| 00:54.31 | cr2 | i don't remember the details. |
| 00:54.49 | cr2 | but the zlib -9 compressed block begins with 0x78 0xda |
| 00:56.04 | cr2 | visual_settings/themes have some colors |
| 00:56.32 | cr2 | pens and brushes |
| 00:58.41 | BabelO | cr2: zmore tools ;) |
| 00:58.52 | cr2 | zless |
| 00:59.26 | cr2 | the addr.dat is a # separated list with some 4byte index values in the middle |
| 01:02.07 | cr2 | it's interesting that the 78da is not 4byte aligned. lame ;) |
| 01:03.09 | cr2 | the graph.bin is just some memory dump. |
| 01:06.27 | cr2 | data from teleatlas |
| 01:07.50 | BabelO | hmm my firefox shutdown itself randomly :( |
| 01:10.10 | cr2 | Please note, that you need a valid license key to use the application premium services. |
| 01:12.57 | cr2 | BabelO: http://www.smart2go.com |
| 01:15.19 | BabelO | :) |
| 01:16.35 | BabelO | ok, bed time for me |
| 01:16.39 | BabelO | good night |
| 01:19.49 | cr2 | good night |
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| 09:46.25 | Pryan | that not said in the bible is that is the beauty and the beast |
| 09:46.33 | Pryan | hahahahha |
| 09:46.37 | swc666 | lol |
| 09:46.55 | Pryan | me too |
| 09:47.01 | Pryan | xDDDDDDDD |
| 09:47.49 | kiozen | weight each letter in the alphabet with a multiple of 3 and summ up the word 'computer' ;) |
| 09:48.54 | Pryan | uh, that is up my english level and my knowledge |
| 09:49.42 | Pryan | i have invented a language in base 10 |
| 09:49.44 | Pryan | xDDD |
| 09:53.04 | Pryan | is the language of the gods |
| 09:53.14 | Pryan | like me |
| 09:53.46 | Pryan | if you read the bible in this language you discover a lot of things |
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| 10:53.10 | kiozen | cr2: got it working ;) |
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| 11:10.16 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot2.png |
| 11:10.52 | kiozen | cr2: do you know how to make the black areas at the border transparent right from the beginning? |
| 11:23.23 | dcordes | one of the BA users around? |
| 11:24.46 | dcordes | kiozen, do you think there is a way to use referenced maps created with qlandkarte GT tested on a wm device? |
| 11:25.16 | kiozen | wm device ? |
| 11:25.46 | dcordes | windows mobile, sorry |
| 11:26.04 | kiozen | ok, yes with oziexplorer |
| 11:26.20 | kiozen | or QLandkarteM if you port it to wince :) |
| 11:26.21 | dcordes | I'll have a look at this |
| 11:27.51 | dcordes | oh no. shareware |
| 11:31.17 | dcordes | kiozen, to use the ce version, one even needs to purchase the destkop version they say |
| 11:33.08 | kiozen | well don't know in detail, but ozi explorer can read geotiff. |
| 11:33.21 | kiozen | looks like you have to stick to porting :) |
| 11:34.02 | dcordes | hm well I just want to play around with kaiser anyway |
| 11:34.16 | dcordes | would it be hard to port qlandkarte mobile to gtk? |
| 11:34.22 | dcordes | glandkarte M ^^ |
| 11:34.48 | kiozen | forget about it :) |
| 11:34.53 | kiozen | gtk sucks anyway |
| 11:35.04 | kiozen | but there is qtopia for wince |
| 11:35.12 | dcordes | lol |
| 11:38.11 | dcordes | I need to buy windows compiller liscense then, right? |
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| 12:07.46 | BabelO | kiozen: your map look nice ;) like a 3D view |
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| 12:24.57 | kiozen | dcordes: don't think so, guess it's the same gnu arm toolchaine. but trolltech site will tell you |
| 12:25.40 | kiozen | BabelO: that's what relief shading is about, but this one is on the paper map, not done by Ql |
| 12:26.11 | BabelO | oh :( |
| 12:27.17 | kiozen | it's a tabacco map, whish that would be standard for hiking maps |
| 12:27.34 | kiozen | it's the best you can get |
| 12:27.37 | dcordes | tabacco? can you smoke it? |
| 12:27.55 | kiozen | sure it's made of paper |
| 12:28.21 | dcordes | but why is it called tabacco? |
| 12:28.50 | kiozen | pretty well known italian map publisher |
| 12:29.15 | kiozen | at least known to hikers :) |
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| 12:36.27 | BabelO | bonjour goxboxlive |
| 12:37.35 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 12:38.00 | BabelO | goxboxlive: now i know how to get fprs working with native qtopia ;) |
| 12:38.14 | goxboxlive | Yes i saw that, great |
| 12:38.30 | goxboxlive | Now we only need a web browser |
| 12:40.00 | BabelO | goxboxlive: and same for networks ;) now i can switch on/of usb network and my wifi network from qtopia |
| 12:40.36 | goxboxlive | Did you need to change anthing in the source? |
| 12:41.03 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes :( there is wrong thing |
| 12:42.16 | BabelO | that is why i just make a comm manager instead of your devel tools |
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| 12:52.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive: but i still have problem with button, contact does not want to work, and only long press on calendar works |
| 13:54.40 | BabelO | cr2: with sh or busybox how can i trim a string ? |
| 14:02.28 | BabelO | ok, not clean but works -> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware | cut - -d ' ' -f 2,3 |
| 14:25.19 | cr2 | hi |
| 14:25.24 | cr2 | BabelO: use awk :) |
| 14:25.38 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 14:26.19 | cr2 | dcordes: why do you need to buy ozi ? |
| 14:26.29 | BabelO | ok i use line i post before ;) |
| 14:26.50 | cr2 | BabelO: is awk included in busybox ? |
| 14:27.02 | BabelO | cr2: yes i just see it ;) |
| 14:32.32 | dcordes | cr2, to test qlandkarte maps in windows mobile |
| 14:39.52 | cr2 | dcordes: the desktop version is needed only for georeferencing, but it's free for that. |
| 14:40.09 | cr2 | dcordes: and kiozen will solve this problem too. |
| 14:40.21 | dcordes | that's what I want to try with qlandkarte: the referencing |
| 14:40.29 | dcordes | and then tryout the map on kaiser |
| 14:40.33 | cr2 | the ozice version can be used for testing too. |
| 14:41.07 | cr2 | you can reference in ozi, and use the gdal tools to create geotiff |
| 14:41.20 | cr2 | ozi does not create geotiff anyway. |
| 14:41.57 | dcordes | can't one use qlandkarte to make the geotiff? |
| 14:42.06 | cr2 | the whole purpose of# shareware is to cripple the app, so you pay for it. |
| 14:42.12 | cr2 | not yet afaik. |
| 14:43.35 | cr2 | BabelO: is it possible to compile qtopia for wince with gcc ? |
| 14:44.04 | cr2 | i guess some bizarre headers may be missing, but it should be doable with some effort. |
| 14:44.19 | cr2 | but this effort is better spent elsewhere :) |
| 14:44.39 | dcordes | cr2, kiozen georefered me to qt for wince |
| 14:44.50 | dcordes | http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/qt-windows-ce |
| 14:46.22 | cr2 | omg. View the 5-Minute Video Demo |
| 14:48.20 | dcordes | paths with \ look so wrong |
| 14:57.28 | cr2 | works with normal slashes too |
| 14:58.09 | cr2 | unless you use some stupid software like cmd.exe |
| 14:58.34 | Pryan | hahahaha |
| 14:58.44 | Pryan | cmd.exe is usefull in this days |
| 14:59.33 | Pryan | well, in some cases |
| 15:00.07 | Pryan | felt sleep |
| 15:00.13 | Pryan | see ya |
| 15:00.36 | BabelO | cr2: last day i use wine cmd.exe :) |
| 15:00.37 | dcordes | cr2, what's a better windows terminal? |
| 15:00.50 | BabelO | dcordes: n4dos |
| 15:00.59 | dcordes | CMD Version 0.9.46 |
| 15:00.59 | dcordes | Z:\home\snoopdogg> |
| 15:01.01 | dcordes | lol |
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| 15:02.53 | BabelO | dcordes: sorry it is nt4dos |
| 15:03.00 | cr2 | dcordes: xterm in cygwin :) |
| 15:03.09 | dcordes | BabelO, wine cmd.exe is awesome |
| 15:03.41 | BabelO | dcordes: it works enough for some tools |
| 15:04.54 | dcordes | BabelO, what tools you use it for? |
| 15:05.59 | BabelO | dcordes: ... can not tell that here ;) |
| 15:06.05 | dcordes | oh ok |
| 15:06.22 | dcordes | BabelO, before I forget to ask again: how does power management work on BA? |
| 15:08.12 | dcordes | if any |
| 15:08.23 | BabelO | dcordes: power management works well, for board id 0x5 |
| 15:08.34 | BabelO | there is some issue with lcd and board id 0x6 |
| 15:08.35 | cr2 | dcordes: 4,5 or 6 ? |
| 15:09.07 | dcordes | oh board id defines BA version? I heard there is one w/o wifi |
| 15:10.24 | dcordes | unfortunately I have no idea which one I bought |
| 15:14.36 | dcordes | cr2, BabelO all I know is it is t-mobile one |
| 15:16.38 | cr2 | dcordes: dmesg ? 'dump gpio' in haret ? |
| 15:17.42 | dcordes | cr2, I don't have it yet |
| 15:17.51 | dcordes | won auction yesterday |
| 15:18.44 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:24.09 | dcordes | cr2, I wonder if t-mobile sold different bord versions |
| 15:27.08 | BabelO | dcordes: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs |
| 15:27.57 | dcordes | BabelO, thanks both t-mobile are 0x5 |
| 15:33.07 | cr2 | dcordes: the power supply is funny, but it looks like a normal tmob ba id 5. |
| 15:34.34 | dcordes | cr2, ok. I charge over usb anyway |
| 15:34.50 | cr2 | it's slower |
| 15:35.00 | cr2 | because of lower current |
| 15:40.19 | dcordes | cr2, ok. it looks like it's in good state, doesn't it? |
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| 16:52.53 | cr2 | BabelO: how can i list the tables in the sqlite3 db ? |
| 16:53.02 | cr2 | dcordes: optically looks good |
| 16:53.58 | BabelO | cr2: good question,i see a command tool to do that but never try |
| 16:54.04 | cr2 | hi kiozen. i think you can set one palette entry as "nodata" -srcnodata 255 for gdalwarp. |
| 16:57.41 | cr2 | BabelO: .tables * |
| 16:58.21 | BabelO | cr2: just start sqlite in command line |
| 16:58.24 | BabelO | and use select |
| 16:58.52 | BabelO | ah yes .tables * |
| 16:58.58 | BabelO | ok i understand now |
| 17:00.04 | cr2 | without the * |
| 17:00.46 | cr2 | select * from tbl_ellipsoid; |
| 17:00.52 | BabelO | yes i see the qtopia table now ;) |
| 17:00.55 | BabelO | easy tool |
| 17:00.59 | cr2 | does not show the field descriptions ? |
| 17:01.13 | BabelO | you need to activate header |
| 17:01.16 | cr2 | sqlite is different from sqlite3 btw. |
| 17:01.20 | cr2 | how ? |
| 17:01.51 | cr2 | .header on |
| 17:01.51 | BabelO | cr2: .header ON |
| 17:01.54 | BabelO | ;) |
| 17:02.20 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:02.27 | cr2 | how do i add an entry ? |
| 17:02.57 | BabelO | cr2: .mode tabs look better |
| 17:03.01 | BabelO | then .mode insert |
| 17:05.33 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:07.59 | cr2 | BabelO: is it saved after insert ? |
| 17:08.34 | cr2 | ok, it's saved. |
| 17:17.12 | kiozen | cr2: it's -dstnodata "255" :) |
| 17:19.44 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. |
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| 17:20.19 | kiozen | cr2: expect that thing to work tonight :) |
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| 19:17.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i have uploaded my change to git ;) |
| 19:18.15 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes i saw |
| 19:18.17 | goxboxlive | it |
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| 20:14.51 | cr2 | BabelO: is it possible to do block comment in python ? |
| 20:15.27 | BabelO | cr2: sorry don't know python :( |
| 20:15.36 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:16.08 | cr2 | python looks nice for some hacks. where awk doesn't work well :) |
| 20:17.32 | BabelO | cr2: it is """ |
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| 20:21.27 | kiozen | everything is better than awk ;) |
| 20:22.36 | BabelO | kiozen: in awk, no cast issue just need +0 :) |
| 20:22.55 | kiozen | and loads of LSD |
| 20:23.30 | BabelO | kiozen: our windows software use awk until last years |
| 20:23.51 | kiozen | thus developers got free LSD :) |
| 20:23.54 | BabelO | we use it instead of jscript ;) |
| 20:32.12 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:32.18 | cr2 | get PrivoxyWindowOpen |
| 20:32.30 | cr2 | for each open() in the downloaded code. |
| 20:35.02 | BabelO | cr2: you found block comment ? |
| 20:38.56 | cr2 | no |
| 20:39.07 | BabelO | cr2 it is """ |
| 20:40.24 | cr2 | ok, i'll try |
| 20:40.43 | kiozen | cr2: easier to use a good editor that does a # at each line |
| 20:41.16 | kiozen | you can use the """ just after a function or class |
| 20:41.30 | kiozen | usually it starts a multiline string |
| 20:41.39 | kiozen | a """ will close |
| 20:41.49 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:41.55 | kiozen | and svn up |
| 20:42.04 | cr2 | ++ does not exist :( |
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| 20:44.12 | kiozen | yes, x += 1 |
| 20:44.28 | kiozen | python tries not to obscure code |
| 20:45.15 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:45.18 | cr2 | svn up |
| 20:45.26 | kiozen | I know "lol" |
| 20:45.51 | kiozen | but that is the offical reason for not doing ++ |
| 20:46.29 | cr2 | ++ is a must in any assembler |
| 20:47.25 | cr2 | ICreateMapGeoTiff.ui :) |
| 20:47.55 | kiozen | missing? no |
| 20:48.04 | cr2 | recompiling. |
| 20:48.35 | kiozen | python and assembly is as far apart that george bush and making peace |
| 20:48.47 | kiozen | s/that/than/ |
| 20:49.22 | cr2 | LOL |
| 20:49.33 | cr2 | the dialog is strange |
| 20:49.53 | kiozen | ok ? |
| 20:49.53 | cr2 | input/output/projection |
| 20:50.03 | cr2 | the textinput field is at projection |
| 20:50.21 | kiozen | well projection string |
| 20:50.32 | cr2 | and open file button on the right side. |
| 20:51.03 | kiozen | you think I should swap the doc and button column |
| 20:51.05 | kiozen | ? |
| 20:51.31 | cr2 | file must be 8bit palette |
| 20:51.44 | kiozen | yes |
| 20:51.48 | cr2 | convert file.png file.gif ? |
| 20:52.05 | cr2 | convert -depth 8 -colors 255 file.png file8.png |
| 20:52.16 | cr2 | convert -depth 8 -colors 255 file.jpg file8.png |
| 20:52.26 | kiozen | no it's needed to display the file ;) |
| 20:52.37 | kiozen | you ever wonder why GT is so fast |
| 20:52.39 | kiozen | ? |
| 20:53.46 | kiozen | if you use 8bit images you can let RasterIO copy the data directly into a QImage buffer |
| 20:53.56 | kiozen | and that _is_ fast |
| 20:54.01 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:54.05 | cr2 | converted. |
| 20:54.15 | cr2 | i agree. maps don't need >256 colors. |
| 20:54.27 | cr2 | ok, loaded |
| 20:54.39 | kiozen | this is something you can do right within the scanning process |
| 20:55.49 | kiozen | btw is there any official gcp format to store gcp's into a file? |
| 20:56.52 | cr2 | no. |
| 20:57.13 | cr2 | for <256 gcps you can use mapinfo .tab |
| 20:57.37 | cr2 | it's parsed for .tif files by gdal |
| 20:58.10 | cr2 | and reading ozi .map is a nice to have too. |
| 20:58.32 | cr2 | or you can stick to the gdal commandline file. |
| 20:58.48 | cr2 | -gcp r1 c1 x1 x2 |
| 20:59.00 | kiozen | ok |
| 20:59.02 | cr2 | -gcp r2 c2 x2 y2 |
| 20:59.11 | cr2 | which can be loaded with |
| 20:59.37 | cr2 | gdal_translate --optfile ${fi}.gcp |
| 21:00.07 | kiozen | hm, it's more to restore gcp's in the dilalog |
| 21:00.08 | cr2 | qgis uses it's own .points format |
| 21:00.29 | cr2 | the first line is a comment |
| 21:01.03 | cr2 | mapX mapY pixelX pixelY |
| 21:01.24 | kiozen | -gcp r1 c1 x1 x2 - I think that is nice enought |
| 21:01.25 | cr2 | but the pixelY is negative |
| 21:01.33 | cr2 | for some weird reason. |
| 21:01.44 | cr2 | yes, i agree |
| 21:01.54 | kiozen | btw I get a nasty offset in my map if I use the UTM grid as reference |
| 21:01.59 | kiozen | wonder why |
| 21:02.23 | cr2 | with wgs84 datum ? |
| 21:02.32 | kiozen | wrong datum? it's "european datum 1950" what ever this is |
| 21:02.58 | cr2 | utm has a clear proj4 definition |
| 21:03.07 | kiozen | i tried +ellps=int and +ellps=GRS80 |
| 21:03.23 | kiozen | but not the map |
| 21:03.54 | cr2 | i'll check qgis |
| 21:04.19 | kiozen | If I use WGS84 ref points it's better |
| 21:05.35 | cr2 | +proj=utm +zone=31 +ellps=intl +units=m +no_defs |
| 21:06.01 | kiozen | yes I tried but still an offset |
| 21:06.29 | cr2 | need to check the k=0.9996 |
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| 21:08.51 | cr2 | it's possible to use the full proj4 string |
| 21:09.05 | cr2 | if you are not in northern Norway |
| 21:09.26 | BabelO | hello jeanseb |
| 21:09.49 | cr2 | kiozen: try k=0.9996 +ellps=WGS84 +datum=WGS84 |
| 21:10.00 | kiozen | ok |
| 21:10.23 | cr2 | i've just learned that +a= and +b= do not override +ellps=sphere |
| 21:11.19 | cr2 | kiozen: what is the format of Coord. ? |
| 21:11.45 | kiozen | you really do not read docs :) |
| 21:12.05 | kiozen | either N46° 33.376 E012° 12.841 |
| 21:12.16 | kiozen | or 286000 5156000 |
| 21:12.19 | cr2 | never. |
| 21:12.35 | cr2 | the gui software should be user-friendly :) |
| 21:12.52 | kiozen | well can't guess everything ;) |
| 21:13.00 | kiozen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.05 | cr2 | otherwise one can use bash+awk+gdal_* |
| 21:13.06 | kiozen | i do a screeny |
| 21:13.09 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:13.31 | cr2 | you may split the Coord. field |
| 21:13.53 | cr2 | btw, when i press the Add point, does it appear in the canvas center ? |
| 21:14.13 | cr2 | moving the GCPs is cool :) |
| 21:14.43 | kiozen | http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot.png |
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| 21:15.20 | kiozen | yes "add " will place a marker at the canvas center |
| 21:15.28 | cr2 | the text canvas GCP label label is not updated when i change Ref X. |
| 21:15.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:16.13 | kiozen | oh, you are not supposed to do that :) |
| 21:16.46 | cr2 | very nice :) |
| 21:17.04 | cr2 | i'll try to reference a real map with a grid. |
| 21:17.27 | kiozen | qt should block any edit request except coord. |
| 21:17.38 | cr2 | what is the syntax of 'projection string' ? |
| 21:17.48 | kiozen | and it's better to have coord as one filed by that you can copy from qlandkarte |
| 21:17.56 | kiozen | proj4 |
| 21:17.56 | cr2 | kiozen: it works, just misses the canvas update signal. |
| 21:18.06 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:18.29 | kiozen | yes maybe I should allow editing every field |
| 21:18.29 | cr2 | if i move the slippy map the changed label is updated. |
| 21:18.49 | cr2 | you should. |
| 21:18.58 | kiozen | except the x and y value :) |
| 21:18.59 | cr2 | it's good to rename the Ref X |
| 21:19.11 | cr2 | well, why not. |
| 21:20.01 | cr2 | hehe. editing x/y does not work. |
| 21:20.29 | kiozen | no because they are controled by the canvas icon |
| 21:20.45 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:21.31 | kiozen | if I do the referencing with lonlat coord it works somehow |
| 21:22.03 | kiozen | if I change the ref marks by a few px the track will have an offset of several px |
| 21:22.09 | cr2 | projection is the output projection or the gcp proj ? |
| 21:22.21 | kiozen | that is one and the same |
| 21:23.03 | kiozen | what is your map doing? |
| 21:23.17 | kiozen | maybe the UTM grid on mine is lousy |
| 21:23.32 | kiozen | but it's a tobacco map - they should know what they are doing |
| 21:24.29 | cr2 | hm. then how do you enter the latlong coord for an utm map ? |
| 21:25.27 | cr2 | btw, if i exit without finishing the ref, the image is loaded on the next start anyway. |
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| 21:26.40 | kiozen | if you enter lonlat it is assumed to be WGS84 and tranformed to the given projection |
| 21:26.54 | kiozen | or you enter the UTM easting and northing |
| 21:27.42 | kiozen | thus you can either pick roads in qlandkarte or use the UTM grid from the map |
| 21:28.27 | kiozen | I would suspect the "european datum 1950" to be the source of the error |
| 21:28.28 | cr2 | ok, but what if you have GK+potsdam ? |
| 21:28.47 | cr2 | yes, probably |
| 21:29.06 | kiozen | best you define the same projection as the map |
| 21:29.15 | kiozen | that will do less distortion |
| 21:29.32 | kiozen | thus if the map is UTM you define UTM |
| 21:29.39 | kiozen | if it is GK you defien GK |
| 21:30.14 | kiozen | If I get gdal right you can define what ever you like |
| 21:30.23 | kiozen | but it will skew your map badly |
| 21:30.37 | kiozen | try no projection string. |
| 21:30.38 | cr2 | but you can't reference by latlong/wgs84 then ? |
| 21:30.51 | kiozen | shure you can |
| 21:30.57 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:31.06 | cr2 | there is only 1 projection setting |
| 21:31.26 | kiozen | the latlong is assumed to be always WGS84 |
| 21:31.34 | cr2 | i don't want to warp GK into latlong/wgs84. it's weird. |
| 21:31.35 | kiozen | I detect ther coord format |
| 21:32.00 | cr2 | i'd prefer proj being the output proj setting |
| 21:32.11 | cr2 | and to set the per-GCP projection |
| 21:32.21 | cr2 | but i can submit a patch later :) |
| 21:32.30 | kiozen | that does not work |
| 21:32.35 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:32.52 | kiozen | you have to define the projection with the gcp's |
| 21:33.00 | kiozen | then gdalwarp will work |
| 21:33.13 | cr2 | "cs2s" them into the target proj. |
| 21:33.30 | cr2 | s/cs2s/cs2cs/ |
| 21:34.00 | kiozen | that is what I am doing |
| 21:34.10 | cr2 | i'll consider that as a gdalwarp bug. |
| 21:34.29 | cr2 | hm, but you don't have a field for the GCP proj. |
| 21:34.34 | kiozen | if it's long lat it's assumed to be WGS84 and cs2cs to the given projection |
| 21:34.58 | kiozen | due to the bug gcp proj has to be the final one |
| 21:35.06 | cr2 | ok, but if not ? |
| 21:35.21 | cr2 | yes, i agree. |
| 21:35.49 | kiozen | if you use northing and easting it has to be the same as the proj string |
| 21:36.39 | kiozen | you hardly want to have an different projection than the papermap anyway |
| 21:36.49 | kiozen | to much distortions |
| 21:36.55 | cr2 | ok, but sometimes it's useful to warp GK into mercator. |
| 21:37.30 | kiozen | for such a stunt you need awk+sed+gdal ;) |
| 21:37.36 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:37.47 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:38.06 | kiozen | try to see it from a DAU's point of view |
| 21:38.17 | kiozen | even 1 proj string is too much |
| 21:38.30 | kiozen | but I can't bypass it |
| 21:39.20 | kiozen | so what's "european datum 1950" |
| 21:39.36 | kiozen | that really sucks |
| 21:39.49 | cr2 | 1 proj4 string is painful for a normal person. you may follow the ozi way. |
| 21:39.51 | cr2 | looking. |
| 21:40.49 | cr2 | 4154,"ED50(ED77)",6154,"European Datum 1950(1977)",6154,9122,7022,8901,1,0,,,,,,,, |
| 21:41.25 | cr2 | what is your "warped" WKT ? |
| 21:41.49 | cr2 | i must admit that i don't have any experience with UTM. |
| 21:42.09 | cr2 | so need to to trial-end-error too. |
| 21:42.28 | kiozen | WKT ? |
| 21:43.03 | cr2 | gdalinfo projection text |
| 21:43.16 | kiozen | the final one? |
| 21:43.44 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:44.02 | cr2 | with funny [] brackets |
| 21:44.14 | kiozen | http://pastebin.ca/935739 |
| 21:44.55 | kiozen | hm that is the one from the last proj string you suggested |
| 21:45.30 | cr2 | looks good to me. |
| 21:45.58 | cr2 | GK with k=0.9996 lon0=15 |
| 21:46.14 | cr2 | and wgs84 ellipsoid |
| 21:47.50 | cr2 | can i download the original map. and the gcps ? |
| 21:48.58 | cr2 | we will sort out these issues |
| 21:49.13 | cr2 | the only thing that i miss now is the save/load the GCPs. |
| 21:50.08 | kiozen | me too :) |
| 21:50.11 | kiozen | second |
| 21:52.42 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/seite1_300dpi.tif |
| 21:52.57 | kiozen | and use the GCPs form http://www.qlandkarte.org/shot.png |
| 21:53.49 | cr2 | ok, got it. |
| 21:55.08 | kiozen | and I sent you the gpx for the ref track |
| 21:55.42 | cr2 | are sure that it's an UTM grid ? |
| 21:56.10 | cr2 | and not some italian Gauss-Boaga grid. |
| 21:56.33 | kiozen | well that is what's written on the map and the grid values are matching somehow |
| 21:56.43 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:56.46 | cr2 | got the track. |
| 21:57.41 | kiozen | Reticolo chilometro U.T.M - Fuso 32 - 33 |
| 21:57.51 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:57.59 | kiozen | tsdogs: ? |
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| 21:58.35 | kiozen | Orientamento medio europeo (European datum 1950) |
| 21:59.15 | cr2 | glossario: UTM-ED’50* = UTM-ED’50 del fuso 32 |
| 21:59.26 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 22:00.15 | kiozen | it should be 33 |
| 22:00.33 | cr2 | yes, i don't see the zone break |
| 22:01.38 | kiozen | it's further west |
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| 22:02.32 | cr2 | i'll check qgis |
| 22:03.08 | kiozen | ok |
| 22:03.46 | cr2 | creating the .points file from your data |
| 22:09.21 | cr2 | the last point |
| 22:10.13 | cr2 | ok, typing error |
| 22:11.48 | cr2 | will use epsg:1251 |
| 22:12.56 | cr2 | ok, now it's rotated |
| 22:13.39 | cr2 | Origin = (282117.002105298393872,5162661.292671781964600) |
| 22:13.39 | cr2 | Pixel Size = (2.118802571237118,-2.118802571237118) |
| 22:14.01 | cr2 | yours was |
| 22:14.04 | cr2 | Origin = (282111.994554984034039,5162663.607210906222463) |
| 22:14.04 | cr2 | Pixel Size = (2.119772170070277,-2.119772170070277) |
| 22:14.41 | cr2 | ok, it's probably because of the affine transform |
| 22:15.04 | cr2 | qgis uses square pixels, no shear. |
| 22:15.20 | kiozen | what about the track ? |
| 22:15.37 | cr2 | but 5m is minor difference. |
| 22:15.44 | cr2 | will overlay now. |
| 22:17.43 | cr2 | hm. 23033 |
| 22:18.12 | kiozen | ? |
| 22:18.42 | cr2 | epsg code |
| 22:19.53 | cr2 | you have only wpts in .gpx ? |
| 22:20.10 | cr2 | no. |
| 22:21.57 | cr2 | yeah. the horizontal offset. |
| 22:23.14 | kiozen | imho it's vert/hor |
| 22:23.25 | cr2 | 100m |
| 22:23.36 | kiozen | yes, quite a bit |
| 22:23.45 | cr2 | no, it's mostly pure horizontal. |
| 22:24.10 | kiozen | according to google earth the track should fit the road pretty good |
| 22:25.03 | kiozen | if it would be 1000m I would know what's wrong :) |
| 22:25.18 | cr2 | i've used gdal_translate -a_srs epsg:23033 seite1_300dpi-modifiziert.tif seite1_300dpi-modifiziertUTM.tif |
| 22:26.14 | cr2 | looks like a different ellipsoid actually. |
| 22:26.28 | cr2 | 100-300m is a usual value. |
| 22:26.35 | kiozen | yes that is my guess, too |
| 22:26.58 | cr2 | where did you get the values ? |
| 22:27.13 | kiozen | the easting and northing? |
| 22:27.27 | kiozen | from the map border |
| 22:28.03 | cr2 | the 1 km grid is ok. |
| 22:28.31 | kiozen | I cross checked several times :) |
| 22:29.01 | kiozen | maybe I should ask in the proj4 news group |
| 22:29.19 | cr2 | hmm. looking at the pcs.csv file. |
| 22:29.41 | cr2 | i've used epsg, so proj4 should be ok. |
| 22:29.56 | kiozen | anyway I have to get some sleep, 6:00 in the morning is soon, and I don't want to start the week with a minus :) |
| 22:30.11 | kiozen | let's see what I can do tomorrow. |
| 22:30.16 | kiozen | good night. |
| 22:30.59 | cr2 | will try 32733,"WGS 84 / UTM zone 33S" |
| 22:31.00 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:34.36 | cr2 | sorry. 32633 |
| 22:35.23 | cr2 | now it is shifted down. |
| 22:36.22 | cr2 | fgrep UTM /usr/local/share/pcs.csv | grep 33N |
| 22:37.05 | cr2 | hm. 10 ellipsoids |
| 22:38.58 | cr2 | it's not 23433,"Garoua / UTM zone 33N" |
| 22:40.13 | cr2 | not 25833,"ETRS89 / UTM zone 33N" |
| 22:50.10 | cr2 | checked all of them. |
| 22:50.34 | cr2 | either shifted right, or down. |
| 22:54.09 | dcordes | cr2, do you have any non htc mobile devices which run linux? |
| 22:57.03 | cr2 | a780 |
| 22:58.08 | dcordes | oh that one even is linux based ootb right? (ezx) |
| 22:58.52 | dcordes | brb |
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| 23:09.05 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
| 23:09.14 | cr2 | kiozen: http://support.esri-germany.de/files/support/KoordinatensystemeNachbarnDeutschlands.pdf |
| 23:13.47 | dcordes | BabelO, ping |
| 23:15.30 | BabelO | dcordes: yes |
| 23:15.57 | dcordes | BabelO, do you build BA images with OE? I wonder if it is maintained there |
| 23:16.31 | BabelO | dcordes: yes i build with OE, but current kernel need some patch, have to send them to cr2 soon ;) |
| 23:17.33 | dcordes | I will try and apply for BA maintainer |
| 23:28.45 | dcordes | BabelO, I see there is a patch present in org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.21 |
| 23:28.50 | BabelO | dcordes: once you get it you can run alge image , run fine with gpe |
| 23:29.08 | dcordes | no I want OE to be capable building the hh kernel ;-) |
| 23:29.30 | BabelO | dcordes: ok so i send you the correct patch i made 2 days ago ;) |
| 23:29.34 | dcordes | I've seen alge's website. of course I will try them but I have an interest to get it going in OE |
| 23:30.00 | dcordes | BabelO, can you paste it? |
| 23:30.19 | BabelO | it is on alge website |
| 23:30.32 | dcordes | could you give me the url again :x |
| 23:31.47 | BabelO | dcordes: all is here http://algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/ |
| 23:33.12 | dcordes | gpe looks nice with the standard gtk theme |
| 23:33.33 | dcordes | also it looks ok with the qvga |
| 23:35.04 | BabelO | dcordes: i try openmoko also ;) last version should be ok with qvga |
| 23:35.37 | dcordes | BabelO, in openmoko there are many qvga specific things added |
| 23:35.51 | dcordes | I came across qvga themes, psplash etc. |
| 23:36.43 | dcordes | BabelO, did alge commit some of his patching to hh.org? http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/kernel-patches/ looks like it's a lot |
| 23:37.09 | BabelO | dcordes: no it is me who send patch to him for try |
| 23:37.23 | BabelO | and i dosome more to get qtopia running |
| 23:37.28 | BabelO | after that i send to oe |
| 23:38.32 | dcordes | ok as I said I will also be able to try much stuff ;) |
| 23:38.47 | dcordes | wouldn't it be more useful to send patches to hh.org? |
| 23:40.27 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.59 | dcordes | BabelO, it would be awesome to have all this in vanilla kernel with some patches |
| 23:44.57 | dcordes | good night all |
| 23:51.16 | cr2 | BabelO: which one ? |
| 23:51.32 | BabelO | cr2: the one for ds1wm |
| 23:51.52 | BabelO | it is related to two consecutive irqs |
| 23:53.15 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:53.40 | BabelO | cr2: maybe it is like you say abou asic3 clock |
| 23:54.00 | BabelO | or a non disabled irq |
| 23:54.13 | BabelO | maybe the solution |
