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| 10:01.49 | mattepiu | hum, both htc magician and universal have a qtopia-4.3 image, but there's no qtopia-image target in armstrong.... is it compiled manually? |
| 10:15.01 | pH5 | mattepiu: goxboxlive built them manually |
| 10:15.37 | mattepiu | pH5: ok, thank you vm. |
| 10:28.00 | goxboxlive | damn i have a dishwasher, and it oves me a F51 code. Any one any service manual for Mile dishwashers? |
| 10:28.08 | goxboxlive | s/Mile/Miele/ |
| 10:38.43 | pH5 | goxboxlive: no idea, sorry. |
| 10:39.10 | pH5 | according to this thread (german), it is related to the heater relay: http://forum.electronicwerkstatt.de/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=78482&forum=58 |
| 10:40.56 | goxboxlive | pH5: ok, thx |
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| 10:46.42 | goxboxlive | hmm doesnt seem that here is something i can fix by my self. Damn, we have to wash by hand for some days now :-( |
| 10:50.27 | psokolovsky | lol. and I can't find time to startup a dishwasher here. always thought of it as the most useless thing of home automation. I miss my roomba here!! |
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| 12:08.11 | goxboxlive | diogene31: hi |
| 12:08.29 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Hello |
| 12:08.54 | goxboxlive | diogene31: what is the status of the mio kernel? DO you have all the hardware working? |
| 12:09.47 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Almost. I still don't have the camera. |
| 12:10.35 | goxboxlive | diogene31: ok, so u have the gps working right? |
| 12:11.29 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Yes, SIRF and NMEA all working all right. |
| 12:11.49 | goxboxlive | Ok, that's great |
| 12:12.17 | goxboxlive | diogene31: in some of mine QTopia images for Universal i have included roadmap |
| 12:12.42 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: What is roadmap ? |
| 12:13.01 | goxboxlive | diogene31: a gps app. hold on i chow you a couple of screenies |
| 12:13.30 | goxboxlive | diogene31: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/roadmap-oslo.png |
| 12:13.49 | goxboxlive | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/roadmap-oslo3-xanadux.png |
| 12:15.07 | goxboxlive | diogene31: http://roadmap.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:15.32 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Wow, that's great. Where do you get your maps from ? |
| 12:16.36 | goxboxlive | diogene31: they are created from openetreet maps. I think cr2 can explain for you how to do it |
| 12:16.52 | goxboxlive | So the phone is also working with QTopia? suspend/resume? |
| 12:17.31 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Yes. I use my phone only under linux now. Need to charge only every 6 days or so. |
| 12:18.13 | goxboxlive | diogene31: ok, it has become kind of cheap now also. Only 1300 NOK for a used one. Hmm maybe i should buy one |
| 12:19.07 | goxboxlive | ~change 1300 NOK Euro |
| 12:19.11 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: What kind of currency is a NOK ? Is it Finland ? |
| 12:19.16 | goxboxlive | Norway |
| 12:19.25 | goxboxlive | ~help |
| 12:19.40 | BabelO | goxboxlive: lol, another linux phone ? ;) |
| 12:20.04 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Making a collection ? Good, I always need testers. |
| 12:20.16 | goxboxlive | BabelO: :-) |
| 12:20.37 | goxboxlive | BabelO: how do i do the change stuff, to see how much 1300NOK is in euro |
| 12:20.48 | goxboxlive | ~change NOK Euor |
| 12:20.51 | goxboxlive | ~change NOK Euro |
| 12:20.56 | goxboxlive | ~change NOK to Euro |
| 12:22.57 | BabelO | ~change nok eur 1300 |
| 12:24.32 | goxboxlive | diogene31: 160 Euro for a used one |
| 12:24.51 | goxboxlive | I have to read about it |
| 12:24.57 | BabelO | apt: where can i find change ? |
| 12:25.46 | goxboxlive | diogene31: do you have the bootloader working? Or do you boot with haret? |
| 12:26.05 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: That's cheap for that kind of hardware. The mio is compact, the CPU is the same as the HTC Universal, there is no keyboard, GPS is great ... |
| 12:26.23 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: No, still working with haret ... |
| 12:26.39 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 12:26.58 | goxboxlive | is it as fast as universal when running Qtopia? |
| 12:27.01 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: I'm a bit afraid at the moment to touch that part, time will come later when I'll have the cash if something bad happens. |
| 12:27.22 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 12:27.26 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Yes, speed is the same (ymerejt can confirm). |
| 12:28.22 | goxboxlive | ok, seems ok, great with gps |
| 12:29.40 | goxboxlive | hmm it's also suplied with maps for whole europe. Even that cost more that the phone |
| 12:30.11 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Are you thinking about MioMap ? |
| 12:30.33 | goxboxlive | isent it tomtom maps that are included? |
| 12:31.09 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Nope, it's MioMap. I was using TomTom 5, worked great. |
| 12:31.38 | goxboxlive | Ok, think i also have that laying around |
| 12:32.22 | goxboxlive | diogene31: is it added to openembedded? SO we can build a rootfs for it? |
| 12:33.05 | goxboxlive | no it's not |
| 12:33.17 | goxboxlive | what kind of rootfs are you using? |
| 12:33.46 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: No, it's not. I only use basic angstrom image, and Qtopia on top of it. I know people like cyrill62 on #miousers tried OE. |
| 12:34.38 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: To be more precise, for my rootfs, look here : http://82.243.122.54/download/mio_a701/rootfs/ |
| 12:34.38 | goxboxlive | diogene31: basic angstrom image based on what machine? HTC Universal? |
| 12:35.13 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Yes, on HTC. I stole that one from ymerejt to speed up my kernel dev. :) |
| 12:35.59 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 12:36.11 | goxboxlive | should be easy to add it to openembedded |
| 12:36.51 | goxboxlive | The kernel source is aplied in hh.org right? |
| 12:38.51 | goxboxlive | hmm it isent in the hh.org source |
| 12:43.47 | mattepiu | is INHERIT += "rm_work" not working? I'm building openmoko, task 1050 of 5000, and it's already taking 6 Gigs... |
| 12:45.24 | mattepiu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:49.43 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: kernel source is not yet uploaded to hh.org, not yet. I have not reached the first stabilization point yet (although I'm pretty close now). |
| 12:50.38 | goxboxlive | diogene31: ok, it shoud be aplied because it's easier for me to build an rootfs for it. And we can then add it to openembbed |
| 12:50.55 | goxboxlive | hi tsdogs . I tested your terminal with colors, it looks good |
| 12:51.04 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: hi, good |
| 12:51.20 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: do you still get those messages and slowness? |
| 12:51.47 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Accepting mega patch for the mio ? Where to send it ? |
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| 12:54.12 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: It is still a little slow sometimes, and it has some delay |
| 12:54.24 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: ok thx |
| 12:54.36 | goxboxlive | But i havent tested it with ssh connected so i dont know if i still have the debug spam |
| 12:55.14 | goxboxlive | diogene31: does it build? Does it break other devices? |
| 12:55.21 | dcordes_ | mattepiu: that's normal it's downloading loads of stuff |
| 12:56.08 | goxboxlive | hmm i just bought a cheap mioA701. Another pxa device ;-) on my desk. |
| 13:01.29 | goxboxlive | diogene31: have you done any hacks in the qtopia source or is just the device wich are added? |
| 13:03.06 | pH5 | mattepiu: yes, rm_work is kind of broken. it deletes WORKDIR as last task, but not all tasks are needed to start with the next recipe, so rm_work is never called for most recipes |
| 13:03.25 | pH5 | right now it really only works if you bitbake <single recipe> to build a recipe from start to end |
| 13:16.23 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Only 1 hack in qtopia: modified the qtopiapowermanager to update the list of power devices after initial startup (mio battery starts after powermanager). |
| 13:16.45 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 13:17.08 | goxboxlive | pH5: could you add a new machine to both hh.org kernel and OE? |
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| 13:18.00 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: And I don't think this hack could break other devices, but I haven't tested. All the other changes are in the devices part. |
| 13:19.02 | goxboxlive | diogene31: ok, could you send me the patch, and i can ask either pH5 or cr2 to take a look at it and if ot's ok it can be aplied to hh.org. |
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| 13:20.29 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: A mail please ? |
| 13:21.17 | goxboxlive | diogene31: my nick at gmail |
| 13:21.47 | goxboxlive | do you know the htc codename for the mioa701? |
| 13:21.52 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: OK, I tag my repository, then send the patch. |
| 13:22.10 | goxboxlive | goo |
| 13:22.12 | goxboxlive | d |
| 13:22.15 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: I don't understand htc codename ... |
| 13:23.11 | goxboxlive | diogene31: like htc universal is names "imate jasjar, qtek 9000, mda pro and so". HTC has a common name for their devices like in this case htc universal |
| 13:24.19 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Then it should be Mitac MIO A701. |
| 13:26.47 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 13:27.37 | goxboxlive | it should also be added to Haret source so you dont have to have the machine type in the haret startup script |
| 13:27.50 | goxboxlive | i think Kevin2 can add it for us |
| 13:36.09 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: I'll send the haret patch to haret mailing list. |
| 13:37.02 | goxboxlive | diogene31: great |
| 13:37.54 | goxboxlive | diogene31: is qtopiapowermanager only one fille or is it several? |
| 13:39.53 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: src/server/cosrc/server/core_server/qtopiapowermanager.cpp and src/server/core_server/qtopiapowermanager.h |
| 13:40.07 | goxboxlive | thx |
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| 13:49.01 | goxboxlive | diogene31: starting a qtopia build now, with gps apps included |
| 13:49.26 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Very good. Finalizing the mail for v0.1 mio support. |
| 13:50.02 | goxboxlive | good |
| 13:53.22 | mattepiu | goxboxlive: adding fbreader to qtopia? |
| 13:54.32 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Mail sent. |
| 13:57.19 | mattepiu | if anyone else might want to check fbreader ebooks reader on htc: it should (testing now) work by modifying .bb file to pdaxrom and qt|gtk instead than openzaurus and opie|gpe |
| 14:00.10 | dcordes_ | mattepiu: may I ask which htc you have? |
| 14:00.18 | mattepiu | magician |
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| 14:00.51 | mattepiu | dcordes_: I got an used magician from eBay to test a bit |
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| 14:02.28 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Hi there. |
| 14:02.29 | goxboxlive | hi Kevin2 could you add mioa701 to haret machine type? |
| 14:02.33 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 14:02.46 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 14:02.59 | diogene31 | goxboxlive, Kevin2: I already sent a mail to haret list with the patch ... |
| 14:03.24 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Remember the mmutrace problem on AT commands, I found out the problem. |
| 14:04.27 | Kevin2 | diogene31: I'm quite curious... |
| 14:04.50 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Haha, I'm sure of it. The right answer was ... ... |
| 14:04.57 | diogene31 | Kevin2: .... |
| 14:05.11 | diogene31 | Kevin2: ... DMA on all UARTs. |
| 14:05.35 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Even on low speed uarts like GSM or GPS, incredible isn't it ? |
| 14:06.22 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. I thought you had watched the DMA registers and didn't see them change. |
| 14:06.47 | dcordes_ | mattepiu: I'm also looking out for a htc device to test a bit |
| 14:06.54 | dcordes_ | kaiser is too boring |
| 14:07.22 | diogene31 | Kevin2: True. But I can remember one of them was set up. And disassembly shows DMA accesses ... |
| 14:07.36 | mattepiu | dcordes_: magician is fairly old, but 416 Mhz armv5 is enough for almost anything, only in linux you have issues with btooth and camera |
| 14:08.07 | diogene31 | Kevin2: And DMA irq was fired, I just had disabled it in ibit irq ... That was my main mistake. |
| 14:08.21 | Kevin2 | diogene31: Okay - that would certainly explain things. You should be able to watch the reads/writes to the DMA engine. |
| 14:08.32 | mattepiu | dcordes_: and I'm still not sure that microphone is fixed... so care |
| 14:08.57 | Kevin2 | I don't think it is that unusual to have DMA on all serial -- once they need dma on one, you might as well implement it as a library and do it for all. |
| 14:09.26 | dcordes_ | mattepiu: I'm thinking of hermes |
| 14:10.31 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Yes, I think so. The funny part is that I just discovered it when I don't need AT traces anymore :( Moreover, after disassembly, I saw AT commands can all be directed to a log file in wince :( I'm pissed off ... :) |
| 14:11.15 | mattepiu | dcordes_: I can't see any support for that one at http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/ , if there isn't you're completely on your own... |
| 14:11.47 | dcordes_ | mattepiu: there is work in progress |
| 14:13.04 | Kevin2 | diogene31 / goxboxlive: I just checked MioA701 in. |
| 14:13.14 | diogene31 | Kevin2: Thanks. |
| 14:13.15 | goxboxlive | Kevin2: good |
| 14:13.30 | goxboxlive | diogene31: i have started to add it to openembedded localy |
| 14:13.51 | goxboxlive | I need some help from you with the machine file, but i'll ask you later. |
| 14:14.51 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Good. Ask when you need to. Ah, and never build a static kernel, this doesn't work yet. Always build the modular kernel, I hadn't time to check this out yet. |
| 14:14.52 | goxboxlive | does it have irda? |
| 14:15.07 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: No, no irda. |
| 14:15.11 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 14:17.05 | goxboxlive | diogene31: do you knw the display DPI? |
| 14:19.22 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: No, but I can give you this : display 240x320, size 45mm x 55mm |
| 14:20.05 | goxboxlive | ok, i do the math then :-) |
| 14:20.11 | diogene31 | :) |
| 14:25.38 | goxboxlive | diogene31: coudl you pastebin the pointercal file for me? |
| 14:26.46 | goxboxlive | and the alsa-state file if you have it |
| 14:26.54 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: http://82.243.122.54/download/mio_a701/qtopia/rootfs_addons.tgz, all is inside (alsa also) |
| 14:27.03 | goxboxlive | good |
| 14:27.24 | goxboxlive | the kernel build |
| 14:27.38 | goxboxlive | now i gonna try buidlng universal, to see if it breaks |
| 14:28.57 | pH5 | diogene31, goxboxlive: could you post the hh.org kernel patches to kernel-bugs@handhelds.org and the oe machine patches to openembedded-devel and/or oe bug tracker? |
| 14:30.53 | goxboxlive | pH5: i will with the OE stuff |
| 14:35.07 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Let me guess. For one, it will work. Then it will improve the time/date issues when comming from wince on htc. |
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| 14:36.27 | goxboxlive | diogene31: ok good |
| 14:37.00 | diogene31 | pH5, goxboxlive: goxboxlive, could you forward my mail to kernel-bugs@handhelds.org, as my mailer lost this mail. ph5, this mail contains the patch and an explanation (this is good for repository management, side effects evaluation, ...) |
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| 14:39.50 | pH5 | ok, bbl |
| 14:40.02 | goxboxlive | diogene31: is it ok for you that i include your email adress? |
| 14:40.17 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Of course, go on. |
| 14:43.45 | goxboxlive | diogene31: htcuniversal where also build after aplying the patch |
| 14:45.08 | bangkok | hi everyones ... is possible to install linux on htc vox? |
| 14:47.06 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Good, Occam's razor principle still rules. |
| 14:47.20 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 14:48.12 | goxboxlive | I'll send you my machine file now. Please fill in the correct name of the modules, add some or remove some. This is just a base based on magician. |
| 14:48.52 | cr2 | hi |
| 14:49.12 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: OK. |
| 14:49.22 | diogene31 | hi |
| 14:50.22 | cr2 | diogene31: does gnu-haret work on mio701 or does it crash ? |
| 14:50.28 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 14:50.40 | diogene31 | cr2: It crashes. |
| 14:50.47 | cr2 | i'm curious how 'dump pxa27x' looks like. |
| 14:51.00 | cr2 | ok. it seems i need to port these functions eventually. |
| 14:55.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: did you get my email. Does it look ok to be aplied to the source? At least aply the mio stuff |
| 14:55.27 | cr2 | diogene31: did you fit the voltage during charge or discharge ? |
| 14:55.35 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, i'm looking at it now. |
| 14:55.55 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 14:56.02 | goxboxlive | cr2: i just bought one :-) |
| 14:56.16 | diogene31 | cr2: Discharge. And the bi-linear calculation must be improved, especially when plugged in, you're correct. |
| 14:57.06 | diogene31 | cr2: I'm collecting statistics through the mio people, to improve all calculations. |
| 14:59.00 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:59.26 | cr2 | diogene31: isn't there some cleaner interface to deal with the PGSR ? |
| 15:01.11 | diogene31 | cr2: No. You mean a general interface, usable by htc/mio/others to setup PGSR ? |
| 15:01.22 | cr2 | mcimod_init looks strange. |
| 15:01.35 | cr2 | yes, some portable pxa2xx api. |
| 15:02.14 | diogene31 | cr2: Ah yes. And no, haven't implemented that. But couldn't do that alone. Need to post a RFC, reach agreement, ... |
| 15:02.58 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:03.30 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 15:03.44 | diogene31 | cr2: mcimod_init is herited from the past developer. There must be at least one GPIO incorrect, but that doesn't break functionnality. It still needs improvement. |
| 15:04.54 | cr2 | it seems somebody with the brains needs to write a clean tasklet/queue -based serial init/reset. |
| 15:05.07 | cr2 | we are cloning a lot of hacky code now :) |
| 15:06.12 | diogene31 | cr2: It was already done. It's called the power_driver. ymeretj wrote it and it's in my repository. It will be integrated in next version, for the mio and htc as well. |
| 15:10.05 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 17:41.39 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: I read your mioa701.conf. I'll give you my comments next week. The thing we must discuss is the modules autoload. As I don't really know how OE works, I'll tell you which modules are necessary for what purpose, and you'll tell me if that suits you to update the file. Agreed ? |
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| 18:47.27 | goxboxlive | diogene31: sounds good |
| 18:47.42 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: OK. |
| 18:48.52 | Dreadddddd | cr2 good news come http://forum.modopo.com/diskussionen-rund-ums-modding/t-19197-ef81-qc-bqs-firmware-analyzer/page28.html |
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| 19:01.02 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
| 19:05.32 | Dreadddddd | cr2 hi remember me ? -) |
| 19:06.33 | cr2 | hi |
| 19:06.55 | cr2 | Dreadddddd: yes, so sx75 is supported now ? |
| 19:07.16 | cr2 | kiozen: i've some usability problems with GT |
| 19:07.25 | kiozen | ok? |
| 19:08.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: did you add mioa701 to hh.org? |
| 19:09.13 | cr2 | goxboxlive: no. some things are modifying the non-machine specific parts. |
| 19:09.47 | goxboxlive | diogene31: recent qtopia source doesnt build. Are you sure you just have edited two files? |
| 19:10.00 | goxboxlive | cr2: but what about the rest, cant that be added for now? |
| 19:10.45 | cr2 | kiozen: if i'm "importing" the available preprocessed geotiff tiles, i need to start from the directory where they are located. |
| 19:11.13 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, but then it's not guaranteed that the things will compile and work cleanly. |
| 19:11.23 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 19:12.14 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok, i'll add the machine-specific parts. |
| 19:12.31 | goxboxlive | cr2: good |
| 19:12.47 | Dreadddddd | Dreadddddd sx75 =sxg75 ? -) |
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| 19:13.08 | kiozen | cr2: don't know what you mean. the only requirement is that qmap and tif is in the same path |
| 19:13.18 | cr2 | it's better to have them available in some centralized repository, than to have 100 of them. |
| 19:13.23 | cr2 | Dreadddddd: yes. |
| 19:14.26 | cr2 | kiozen: if i click 'create .qmap', i must save it in the same directory where _all_ the files are located. |
| 19:14.51 | kiozen | yes |
| 19:15.09 | kiozen | that's called keep things together :) |
| 19:15.35 | cr2 | kiozen: imho you should not assume that. TOP* is a nice exemption to the general rule :) |
| 19:16.21 | kiozen | well it's the same with garmin map collections, one path with all files for one map collection |
| 19:17.07 | cr2 | yes. if you have bought metroguide et al. |
| 19:17.36 | kiozen | I store all maps in a central path, each map with it's own subdir, all files in the subdir |
| 19:17.53 | mattepiu | do this way to remove workfiles should be sane? : cd tmp/work ; for AP in * ; do for file in "$AP"/* ; do if [ -f ../stamps/"$file".do_install ] ; then rm -rf "$file" ; fi ;done ; done |
| 19:18.02 | Dreadddddd | cr2 yes.. and SL91 and EF81.. some HTC support too... and some nvm folder hack comming soon |
| 19:18.06 | cr2 | kiozen: imho, there should be an option to generate the .qmap from all tiffs in a dirtree. |
| 19:19.00 | cr2 | Dreadddddd: ok, we are fighting with other things right now. |
| 19:19.02 | kiozen | you want to grep the OSM tree, don't you? :) |
| 19:19.23 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: I don't think I modified anything else. If recent QTopia doesn't build, then there must be some evolution in the interface ... |
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| 19:19.45 | cr2 | kiozen: yes :) |
| 19:20.06 | kiozen | ok, I think about it ;) |
| 19:20.15 | kiozen | what abaout M? |
| 19:20.16 | goxboxlive | diogene31: it buidl for my other devices. I pastebin. |
| 19:20.37 | cr2 | kiozen: i've hit one more bug in gdaladdo yesterday. we need to keep track of these issues. |
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| 19:20.45 | goxboxlive | diogene31: in example, this file doent exist: #include "mioa701volumeservice.h" |
| 19:21.01 | cr2 | kiozen: where is your latest version ? i'll start n560 |
| 19:21.28 | kiozen | svn as usual |
| 19:21.42 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: I moved the file in the repository at one point, and perhaps I forgot a makefile. What directory are we talking about ? |
| 19:22.21 | cr2 | kiozen: looking for precomplied. can't keep track of all projects :) |
| 19:22.35 | kiozen | ah sorry, moment |
| 19:23.04 | kiozen | http://www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM |
| 19:24.07 | goxboxlive | diogene31: mioa701/src/plugins/audiohardware/mioa701 |
| 19:24.38 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, downloading. |
| 19:24.51 | kiozen | it's with debug information :) |
| 19:26.43 | goxboxlive | diogene31: http://pastebin.no/3351 |
| 19:27.06 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, don't put it into /usr/bin. |
| 19:27.15 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Having dinner. Will check that just after ... |
| 19:27.21 | kiozen | why? |
| 19:27.55 | goxboxlive | diogene31: ok |
| 19:28.50 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Found it. I forgot a 'git add'. Just pushed, you can pull and the files should appear. See you in 30mins. |
| 19:28.54 | goxboxlive | i think i found the bug http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=commit;h=7fc788d062820ec008cf8bd8ac11eefd2d2f05e7 |
| 19:28.56 | cr2 | kiozen: it should be /opt/Qtopia/bin and other qtopia-specific directories. |
| 19:29.03 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:29.14 | cr2 | kiozen: we want clean .ipks |
| 19:29.45 | kiozen | well, ok, currently you can shove it where you want it :) |
| 19:30.20 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:30.59 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, you can compile qlandkarte too :) |
| 19:31.31 | kiozen | cr2: ??? |
| 19:31.45 | cr2 | for arm. |
| 19:31.55 | cr2 | wget called it /usr/bin/QLandkarteM.1 |
| 19:32.33 | kiozen | hm, got better stuff to do :) |
| 19:32.53 | cr2 | ok, was just a joke :) |
| 19:33.00 | kiozen | cr2: maybe because you had QLandkarteM in you path? |
| 19:33.18 | cr2 | hm. it seems i need to run gdaladdo on the files. |
| 19:33.52 | kiozen | QLandkarte had 65 downloads in 24h :) |
| 19:34.31 | cr2 | wee. slippy map :) |
| 19:34.33 | kiozen | pretty good for a niche product |
| 19:34.39 | kiozen | hehe yes |
| 19:34.58 | kiozen | but the missalignment stuff would be of more interest |
| 19:35.24 | kiozen | and it should be more robust agains lousy qmap definitions :) |
| 19:35.55 | cr2 | provided some more usability changes, and a bit of advertising in certain places, it will be much more :) |
| 19:36.33 | cr2 | generating a good .qmap out of "random" maps is not an easy task. |
| 19:37.10 | cr2 | kiozen: no click/longclick in M ? |
| 19:37.38 | kiozen | not yet with my version of qtopia |
| 19:37.55 | kiozen | if I read correctly this slipped in th elast weeks |
| 19:38.21 | cr2 | got green screen of death again. |
| 19:38.40 | kiozen | do not press the back key :) |
| 19:38.58 | cr2 | blue unnamed ? |
| 19:39.40 | kiozen | yes |
| 19:39.57 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:39.59 | kiozen | this is qtopia SNAFU |
| 19:40.12 | cr2 | how to add a waypoint ? |
| 19:40.30 | kiozen | select |
| 19:40.37 | kiozen | middle button |
| 19:40.52 | cr2 | keep in mind, i'm not spoiled by commercial programs, so i can decide about the clean-mind usability :) |
| 19:40.54 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:41.36 | kiozen | well I would say 'select' is intuitive :) |
| 19:42.27 | cr2 | i hate using the keyboard/keys :) |
| 19:42.42 | cr2 | show images ? |
| 19:42.43 | kiozen | I hate using the stylus :) |
| 19:42.59 | cr2 | it's for the wpt icons ? |
| 19:43.12 | kiozen | you can define waypoints with images in GT |
| 19:43.22 | cr2 | you are obviously in the minority |
| 19:43.23 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:43.47 | kiozen | good for geocaching, sometimes you need the spoiler pic . |
| 19:43.48 | cr2 | presses the 'v' button |
| 19:44.02 | cr2 | got GSOD |
| 19:44.09 | kiozen | huh? |
| 19:44.29 | cr2 | you have x and v screen buttons |
| 19:44.37 | cr2 | under the wpt dialog. |
| 19:44.47 | kiozen | ah |
| 19:45.05 | cr2 | yeah, ascii art here :) |
| 19:45.35 | kiozen | looks like there is a problem to access the SD card |
| 19:45.59 | cr2 | ? |
| 19:46.33 | cr2 | can i use a hwbutton to confirm ? |
| 19:46.34 | kiozen | if you press 'v' part of the wpt data is keept in memory and all data is saved to SD ram |
| 19:47.04 | cr2 | ok, i mean some internal M problem. |
| 19:47.24 | cr2 | TODO: make unique string |
| 19:47.36 | kiozen | :) |
| 19:48.08 | cr2 | show images does not respond. |
| 19:48.25 | kiozen | your wpt has no images |
| 19:48.33 | kiozen | use GT to add some |
| 19:48.46 | cr2 | GSOD |
| 19:49.22 | cr2 | where should the images go ? |
| 19:49.27 | kiozen | hm, qtopia emulation is not the device |
| 19:49.38 | kiozen | they are stored into the wpt file |
| 19:49.51 | cr2 | no unaligned accesses so far. |
| 19:50.14 | kiozen | ok, then it was gdal and missing tif files |
| 19:50.20 | cr2 | the GSOD was on the v button again. i can't save the wpt |
| 19:50.49 | cr2 | yes, you should check for missing tiff files. |
| 19:50.51 | kiozen | you used the virtual one? |
| 19:51.03 | cr2 | virtual ? |
| 19:51.08 | kiozen | on screen |
| 19:51.13 | cr2 | yes |
| 19:51.31 | kiozen | ok, than it's a SD ram access problem |
| 19:52.00 | cr2 | ? |
| 19:52.29 | cr2 | oh, sorry |
| 19:52.43 | cr2 | i see the blue triangles after the restart |
| 19:53.13 | kiozen | any other user supplied information? |
| 19:53.19 | cr2 | but what can i do about them ? |
| 19:53.49 | kiozen | do about what? |
| 19:53.59 | cr2 | the waypoints |
| 19:54.07 | cr2 | the name is not shown. |
| 19:54.22 | cr2 | can i click to edit it ? |
| 19:54.32 | kiozen | yes, still loads to program : |
| 19:54.34 | cr2 | the x button works. |
| 19:54.52 | kiozen | yes if you press x no saving |
| 19:55.08 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: What's the status ? Did Qtopia compile ? |
| 19:55.12 | cr2 | nice. got a segfault. |
| 19:55.14 | kiozen | if you confirm -> saving to disc |
| 19:55.25 | cr2 | v -> GSOD |
| 19:55.33 | cr2 | but they are saved. |
| 19:55.47 | cr2 | <4>[ 1436.070000] Alignment trap: QLandkarteM.1 (1261) PC=0x406baa54 Instr=0xe5933088 Address=0x00000141 FSR 0x0f3 |
| 19:56.19 | cr2 | Address=0x00000141 ? |
| 19:56.41 | cr2 | hmm. Instr=0xe5933088 |
| 19:56.52 | cr2 | probably ldr or str |
| 19:56.53 | kiozen | that is of as much use as the general protection error in windows :) |
| 19:57.10 | cr2 | ok, starting in gdb. if it's there. |
| 19:58.07 | cr2 | btw, the GSOD is not a segfault. just the fb screwup. |
| 19:59.07 | kiozen | anyway it sucks ;) |
| 20:00.15 | cr2 | got the o+ and some weird button too on editing wpt |
| 20:00.30 | cr2 | this icon in unreadable |
| 20:00.37 | cr2 | trash ? |
| 20:01.04 | kiozen | the o+ is 'goto' and the other 'delete' |
| 20:01.20 | kiozen | maybe better to use the word |
| 20:01.29 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:02.07 | kiozen | no tooltips in qtopia |
| 20:02.27 | cr2 | in your version |
| 20:02.38 | cr2 | we can compile a custom |
| 20:02.54 | cr2 | with the fileopen dialog and other useful stuff. |
| 20:03.19 | goxboxlive | diogene31: i dont know, i had to reconfigure |
| 20:03.28 | kiozen | imho no need for that |
| 20:03.49 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Ah, qtopia joys ... sorry. |
| 20:03.56 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 20:04.43 | cr2 | kiozen: can't do an unaligned trap again. |
| 20:05.04 | cr2 | kiozen: you don't overzoom ? |
| 20:05.25 | kiozen | no that won't give you more infromation |
| 20:05.26 | cr2 | ok, it#s probably in the .qmap |
| 20:05.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:06.24 | kiozen | guess I have to freeze M until I have the device back to avoid more errors |
| 20:07.00 | kiozen | emulators suck |
| 20:08.57 | cr2 | no, it does not crash now. |
| 20:09.08 | kiozen | on saving wpt? |
| 20:09.38 | cr2 | there was a GSOD on wpt. i'll try it again in gdb |
| 20:12.35 | cr2 | kiozen: it's a nice map viewer already. |
| 20:13.02 | kiozen | yes, but still quite a way to go |
| 20:13.20 | cr2 | i'll suggest to work on the gpsd interface |
| 20:13.22 | kiozen | any idea how the SD access could fuck up the fb |
| 20:14.05 | kiozen | still haven't found a a gps mouse I like |
| 20:14.19 | cr2 | i'll try to finish gps+resume this week. because i'll be away in Stuttgart the next one. |
| 20:14.59 | cr2 | don't know... |
| 20:15.15 | cr2 | can you hook some canvas refresh event to a hw button ? |
| 20:15.40 | cr2 | you have 5 unused. |
| 20:15.53 | kiozen | press the navigation buttons |
| 20:16.19 | kiozen | that should update in any case |
| 20:16.21 | cr2 | up/down/left/right/ok does not help. |
| 20:16.29 | cr2 | ok, i get it too. |
| 20:16.52 | cr2 | the ts movement is not doing anything too. |
| 20:17.07 | cr2 | i can ctrl-c, it runs in the debugger |
| 20:17.36 | cr2 | Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. |
| 20:17.36 | cr2 | 0x415e55f0 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 20:17.46 | cr2 | (gdb) bt full |
| 20:17.46 | cr2 | #0 0x415e55f0 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 20:17.46 | cr2 | No symbol table info available. |
| 20:17.46 | cr2 | #1 0x415f5fd4 in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 20:17.46 | cr2 | No symbol table info available. |
| 20:18.15 | cr2 | so it waits for the input. |
| 20:18.30 | kiozen | any chance the SD interface messes with the fb? |
| 20:18.45 | kiozen | by some wired IO usage? |
| 20:19.05 | cr2 | hm. very unlikely. |
| 20:19.17 | cr2 | you mean gpio ? |
| 20:19.27 | kiozen | what ever |
| 20:19.44 | cr2 | don't think so. |
| 20:19.58 | cr2 | i can exit and restart the program |
| 20:20.08 | cr2 | it will not change any gpios. |
| 20:20.27 | cr2 | it's some internal qws fsckup. |
| 20:21.10 | kiozen | ok, looks like I have to investigate this later |
| 20:21.20 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:21.25 | kiozen | got to go now |
| 20:21.29 | kiozen | bbl |
| 20:21.32 | cr2 | bye |
| 20:59.30 | mattepiu | did goxboxlive leaved somewhere in the web some little tutorial for qtopia-4.3 compilation for HTC ? |
| 20:59.46 | goxboxlive | mattepiu: ?? |
| 21:00.07 | goxboxlive | what device? |
| 21:00.12 | mattepiu | magician |
| 21:00.55 | mattepiu | I have already the toolchain build with OE/ openmoko-image |
| 21:01.16 | mattepiu | s/build/built |
| 21:01.44 | goxboxlive | mattepiu: we havent added magician (htcphone) to the git tree, because the modem isent working. |
| 21:02.21 | goxboxlive | I think BabelO_ has something for bloueangel wich is close to magician. |
| 21:03.07 | mattepiu | goxboxlive: ok, thank you, it will become useful if I'll not find a way to add fbreader to openmoko |
| 21:04.39 | goxboxlive | diogene31: Qtopia is build now :-) |
| 21:05.16 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Very good. So no more missing files ... thanks for pointing them out. |
| 21:06.15 | goxboxlive | diogene31: i am going to upload the opt folder with the gps stuff added. Feel free to test it out |
| 21:06.52 | diogene31 | goxboxlive: Great. Will do. |
| 21:13.49 | goxboxlive | diogene31: you will need both files. The qtopia file is the opt folder, and the patch is some libs and files for roadmap and other apps in my qtopia image: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/mioa701/tmp/ |
| 21:14.04 | goxboxlive | I will also try to make a rootfs for it |
| 21:14.53 | goxboxlive | diogene31: just check out the patch file before you aply it, in case you allready have some of the libs |
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| 21:37.25 | goxboxlive | cr2: still awake? |
| 21:37.46 | goxboxlive | Do you know what this might be? http://pastebin.no/3353 |
| 21:42.19 | goxboxlive | I think there was some modules there wich wasent intend to be created. I'll try to compile most of the static |
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| 21:55.26 | goxboxlive | it didnt work either. Have to look further on it tomorrow. |
| 21:55.29 | goxboxlive | night |
| 22:09.22 | rakeem | Can anyone tell me why a large chunk of ipkgs refuse to run after installation? All I get is "Not found" and "Illegal instruction" .I'm running 2.6.21-hh20/GPE on the Uni... |
| 23:36.46 | mattepiu | huff, task 3400 error : The external toolchain could not be found in /usr/local/angstrom/arm! .... I have'n t any /usr/local/armstrong directory |
| 23:42.15 | mattepiu | removing stamps and retrying *cross* |
