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02:22.36derekShi, does anyone have experience with linux on the htc apache (xv6700)?
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09:39.20BabelOhi
09:45.27snakefreakHi BabelO
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14:51.10kiozencr2: ?
15:11.10BabelOhello kiozen ;)
15:11.21kiozenhi BabelO
15:11.42kiozenthus what's your qtopia compile time?
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15:35.15BabelOkiozen: 25 mn with make -j8 but i did not see the stop time so maybe it is a little less
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15:35.54kiozencool, did you try "time make -j8" ?
15:38.47BabelOkiozen: no, i will try this evening ;) i can try more an more compile now it is fast
15:39.02BabelOkiozen: i can try OE too, my image are very old
15:39.25kiozenopen up a compile service :)
15:40.23BabelOkiozen: lol, i look at the  GPU use too, it is interesting
15:40.57kiozenuse the GPU to compile? That would be fun!
15:42.02BabelOkiozen: no, i look at openvidia project and cuda too, there is some funny thing to do like nerual network on GPU and also some real time filter like you do for elevation in QLandkarte GT
15:42.54snakefreakgpu have a lot of power^^ with crosfire or sli more^^
15:44.24kiozenI am always tempted to look in such stuff, too. On the hand side it's a waste of time as it is not portable at all.
15:44.55kiozenThe most commen sense is OpenGL
15:46.12kiozenhowever if your app needs it it's still useless for graphic cards without OpenGL support
15:46.37kiozenespecially if you use a special feature provided by your GPU
15:47.48kiozenbut It's a pitty to have so much calculation power wasted without use
15:49.00snakefreakathlon 64 2,4ghz 4,8 gflops one of my two x1950xtx 374 GFLOPs
15:49.56snakefreakthats pretty nice for compiling and other calculating things such as boinc etc
15:52.39snakefreakhttp://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/brookgpu/index.html looks intresting.
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15:54.18BabelOkiozen: nvidia provide a nice librarie to do such calculation for GPU you need an arch G8x
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15:54.56BabelOkiozen: my graphic card is not really good it is just a GeForce 8600 GT with 512Mb
15:57.57snakefreakminmum 100x faster than your cpu^^
15:58.00snakefreaki think
16:00.25BabelOsnakefreak: maybe yes, but i think my compilation time is improved by memory too
16:00.37BabelOsnakefreak: before i ve a Athlon 1800 XP with 512 Mb
16:01.01BabelOsnakefreak: and now a Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz with 2Gb ( 4Gb next month :) )
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16:29.11kiozenbbl
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16:57.15Snake_linuxmy wlan with wpa is runing
16:57.19Snake_linuxhehe
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17:27.34PCrazeeon http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal it says "sound and the GSM chipset is only partially supported" on the Introduction part, but in the Common port status it says "GSM/GPRS/UMTS is tested and works"
17:28.09PCrazeecan use the phone functions when i install linux on a universal?
17:28.22PCrazeeis there also support for sms/mms?
17:30.15PCrazeeor to make long things short: will i be able to call ppl, receive calls as well as sms?
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18:06.42goxboxlivePCrazee: yes, but not MMS, we miss a stack for it
18:07.10PCrazeewell, i can live w/o mms... nerver used that anyways ;)
18:07.12goxboxliveu need to setup gprs manually though, but it works
18:07.26PCrazeedont have a problem with that, if it works
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19:44.53BabelOkiozen: i have the result of time command ;)
19:45.13kiozenyeeees?
19:45.38BabelOreal    18m21.540s
19:45.38BabelOuser    68m52.798s
19:45.38BabelOsys     3m26.505s
19:46.04BabelOwhat is this user line ? cumulative time between cpus ?
19:46.11kiozenyou played doom in the background
19:46.58kiozenusually user is the time it really took
19:47.41kiozenthus if you had other processes runnig "user" will increase
19:47.47BabelOkiozen: strnage, not possible, i look at time before and real time it took is 18m21
19:48.15kiozenhm, guess time is confused by too much cpus :)
19:48.24BabelOyes i have lot of other processes for this user, i build as root ;)
19:48.51BabelOanyway it is really good, i can make more test now
19:49.12BabelOhave to try QLandkarte GT
19:49.22kiozen18min for a complete build is pretty fine
19:50.25kiozenGT/M compiles fast even on 1 cpu
19:51.22BabelOkiozen: the new elevation feature is in it ?
19:51.42kiozenyes, on GT
19:51.58kiozenbut you need good DEM data
19:52.29kiozenthe SRTM90 isn't good enought for the current algo
19:53.10BabelOwhere are the build steps ?
19:53.18kiozento make this look good I have to "do it right" in the signal processing sense
19:53.50kiozenhttp://www.qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&Itemid=3
19:58.13BabelOkiozen: funny, first time i see thios ccmake command ;)
19:58.47kiozencmake is kind of cool :)
19:59.27BabelOhmm i miss proj librarie it seem, ... strnage i install it two days ago
20:01.53kiozenyes, but at that time you still had your old computer ;)
20:02.24kiozenbut probably it's just in some subfolder
20:03.03kiozenI expect the header files in /usr/include
20:03.53BabelOkiozen: old computer yes, but still same hard drive...
20:04.29kiozenuuuuuh, don't do that on Windows !
20:04.38kiozenlinux is a beast
20:05.00BabelOyes i know ;) good under linux if you don't forget to recompile kernel in compatibility mode
20:05.37BabelOok i forgot devel packages from suze
20:06.16BabelOkiozen: it say version 4.6.0 ;)
20:06.31kiozenI recommend to compile proj4 and gdal
20:06.41kiozenthis SuSE stuff is fishy
20:07.32kiozenI fucked up installation on my work PC using the grass/proj4/gdal stuff by SuSE
20:07.51BabelOgdal is 1.5.0
20:08.07BabelOok it just finish to build with suse packages
20:08.10kiozenyes that is ok 4.6 and 1.5
20:09.09BabelOoh good it look like qlandkarte :)
20:10.59BabelOi need my position
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20:17.31joschkopf79hi all, hi BabelO
20:17.49kiozenBabelO: N43° 36.948 E003° 51.810   -    N43° 36.409 E003° 53.285
20:17.53BabelOkiozen: i ve wrong coord format
20:17.57BabelOok :)
20:18.04BabelOhi joschkopf79, send me your email
20:18.46BabelOkiozen: oups it close qlandkarte
20:18.58kiozen:(
20:19.08kiozenlet me try ...
20:19.24BabelOkiozen: no no problem , i found why
20:19.48kiozendon't press the cross in the right top corner!
20:20.37BabelOkiozen : it was Write permission error on TIF
20:20.58kiozenok, have to cover this
20:23.40BabelOkiozen: look nice, is it possible to open map once create successed ?
20:24.13kiozensure just load it
20:29.30BabelOkiozen: i mean automatically maybe ?
20:29.41kiozennot yet :)
20:29.44kiozenhm, was a pretty samll area, wasn't it?
20:29.54kiozens/samll/small/
20:29.56BabelOyes it is
20:30.09BabelOwhere are the elevation data ? ;)
20:31.09kiozenhttp://srtm.csi.cgiar.org/SELECTION/inputCoord.asp
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20:31.30kiozenbut don't expect too much, I really have to program this properly
20:32.01kiozenthe screenies you saw where made with 25x25m elevation data
20:32.51BabelOok it is to test ;)
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20:39.39kiozenBabelO: before you can use them you have to convert them into the same projection as your map
20:41.41kiozengdalwarp -t_srs "+proj=merc +lon_0=0 +k=1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +units=m +no_defs" Z_39_1.TIF z_39_1_merc.tif
20:42.12kiozenyou just have to change the file name
20:55.19BabelOkiozen ok thanks
21:01.06BabelOi just convert elevation, how can i proceed now ?
21:01.14kiozenBabelO: there is a bug if you do maps->create->Create map from.. to add elevation data, the map levels will have wrong order after saveing.
21:01.45kiozenyou have to swap them
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