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| 05:35.25 | goxboxlive | good morning |
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| 09:58.59 | BabelO | hi |
| 09:59.01 | BabelO | cr2: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ArtemisHardware |
| 10:12.11 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
| 10:12.51 | cr2 | add a link to xda-dev there. reinventing the wheel wastes resources. |
| 10:13.13 | BabelO | cr2: that already what i do, i add link to developer center's |
| 10:14.25 | BabelO | i want to send an email to this guy, to avoid researches to him |
| 10:18.04 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 10:20.11 | cr2 | BabelO: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaq514 |
| 10:21.54 | BabelO | cr2: yes all these devices are really closest |
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| 12:17.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: http://www.tangogps.org/ |
| 12:29.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: rendering with gdal/geotiff is the right way(tm) |
| 12:31.10 | BabelO | cr2: but no embedded maps, so always downloading from gprs |
| 12:31.51 | cr2 | goxboxlive: using _just_ osm raster tiles is too limited in scope. using google tiles instead is going against their license. |
| 12:32.38 | cr2 | BabelO: osm tiles are somewhere in the middle. either you want to see every tree, or you want to have route planning + directions. |
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| 13:36.27 | kiozen | cr2, BabelO, goxboxlive: I'll try to pimp up OSM data with eleveation data. The free 90m SRTM data is quite a nice start for now. |
| 13:36.46 | kiozen | however using OSM vector data for routing is quite interesting, too |
| 13:37.47 | BabelO | kiozen: good ;) don't forget that our device does not have 3D accel ... lol |
| 13:38.42 | BabelO | cr2: i found a good driver for my omap_spi.c and maybe for asic3_spi.c :) |
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| 13:39.19 | snakefreak | hi all |
| 13:40.18 | snakefreak | BabelO i have installed your opie2 image its runing but its very slow.? |
| 13:40.19 | kiozen | BabelO: lol, you have to preprocess the GeoTiff. A I will just do shading. (until every phone got one of these nice holgraphic screens) |
| 13:40.41 | BabelO | :) |
| 13:41.13 | BabelO | kiozen: can looks good with opengl ;) there is some bump map funciton |
| 13:41.38 | BabelO | kiozen: i have to compile your two other aplpication to generate maps |
| 13:42.15 | kiozen | BabelO: complile GT, mpr2gtiff is a quite german thing |
| 13:42.30 | BabelO | ko |
| 13:42.32 | BabelO | ok |
| 13:42.40 | kiozen | with GT you can stitch OSM tile to large files |
| 13:43.17 | kiozen | and you can fetch yourself SRTM data to get elevation information under curser |
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| 13:43.58 | kiozen_ | http://srtm.csi.cgiar.org/SELECTION/inputCoord.asp |
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| 13:51.26 | BabelO | kiozen: very good :) |
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| 13:54.04 | fredsa | hi, I've got an o2 xda sp. Can anyone tell me which htc model this is and if I can install linux on it? |
| 13:56.08 | snakefreak | look here.: |
| 13:56.10 | snakefreak | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ |
| 14:03.39 | snakefreak | BabelO can you tell me which of your images has whitch function workink? |
| 14:04.32 | BabelO | snakefreak: yes , but for which device ? |
| 14:04.44 | snakefreak | ba wifi phone sms sound |
| 14:06.03 | BabelO | snakefreak: ah, not my image, i only made some image for qtopia 4.3, but never got phone working on it, else you can look at Alge image, everything works well -> http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/ |
| 14:06.27 | BabelO | snakefreak: be carefull, this only works well on boardid 5 |
| 14:06.42 | BabelO | on boardid 6 resume does not work |
| 14:08.11 | snakefreak | board id i must search on hard disk i have readed out earlier^^ |
| 14:17.39 | snakefreak | can you tell me diffrenz Angstrom-gpe-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r1-htcblueangel.rootfs.tar and Angstrom-gpephone-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r1-htcblueangel.rootfs.tar |
| 14:26.31 | BabelO | snakefreak: gpephone is other thing use the gpe one, he have customized gpe image with nice thing like gommunicator |
| 14:29.39 | fredsa | I don't see the sp listed on there. Presumably that means no one's installed linux on it yet? |
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| 14:47.17 | BabelO | fredsa: what is sp ? |
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| 14:51.09 | maxmerke | hi guys |
| 14:51.23 | BabelO | hi |
| 14:51.30 | maxmerke | does anybody know the HTCFlasher utility by pof ? |
| 14:52.13 | maxmerke | (and if i can use it for a NIKI too - the niki has spl 1.16 and commonbase 1.51d) ? |
| 15:03.15 | maxmerke | or maybe there is another tool to flash htc devices from linux ? |
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| 15:36.34 | snakefreak | i have a problem how can i reboot a arge gepe image.? reboot -t now ---> reboot command not found. |
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| 15:39.41 | fredsa | sorry about that, I lost my connexion. The xda sp is described in this press release: http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news1731.html |
| 15:49.27 | cr2 | fredsa: looks like typhoon |
| 15:50.26 | cr2 | fredsa: can you run haret on it ? |
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| 17:21.27 | parmaster | nice my minisync just arrived |
| 17:23.34 | parmaster | its a little retractable cable that does both sync and charge from the usb port to my apache |
| 17:24.06 | parmaster | so i tether with it and the phone is always charged |
| 17:24.51 | parmaster | now i need to get one for the blueangel (for use out in the world ;) |
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| 17:29.38 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/roadmap/OE/ |
| 17:29.41 | parmaster | i tether it to my olpc which i recharge with portable foldable solar panels |
| 17:30.12 | tsdogs | though this is of no use I think as qtopia-core is qt4-embedded only... |
| 17:32.01 | cr2 | parmaster: and not with the crank ? |
| 17:32.10 | cr2 | hi tsdogs |
| 17:32.19 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 17:32.37 | parmaster | cr2: lol ;-) |
| 17:33.02 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'm suffering because of the absent poi labels ;) |
| 17:33.39 | tsdogs | cr2: I looked once into it but it's complicated to display poi labels :( |
| 17:33.57 | cr2 | tsdogs: there is poi labeling, but it uses the internal gpx structure * |
| 17:34.29 | cr2 | we may try to change this api to something more generic. |
| 17:34.31 | tsdogs | cr2: I actually looked at why they don't get displayed (the bbox thing) |
| 17:34.46 | tsdogs | cr2: ok, u know where exactly? |
| 17:34.55 | cr2 | tsdogs: not for the zero-'line's |
| 17:35.07 | tsdogs | ok but for gpx? |
| 17:35.09 | snakefreak | anybody know a usb ethernet gaget driver for linux(ba gpe) --> windows ? |
| 17:35.11 | cr2 | searching for it. |
| 17:35.25 | cr2 | tsdogs: it's called 'personal landmarks' |
| 17:35.48 | tsdogs | cr2: personal landmarks reads a different file :/ |
| 17:36.30 | cr2 | yes, but the problem is the api. you can't just 'use' it. |
| 17:39.02 | tsdogs | cr2: the api is useless as it call roadmap_label_draw_text |
| 17:39.29 | BabelO | snakefreak: this gadget is already here, just connect your ba to your windows and it works, you have to use a linux.inf file when windows prompt you for driver |
| 17:39.50 | cr2 | tsdogs: roadmap_landmark_draw_weepoint ? |
| 17:40.06 | tsdogs | cr2: yes |
| 17:40.10 | cr2 | ah, yes. |
| 17:40.13 | cr2 | roadmap_label_draw_text(weepointp->name, |
| 17:40.29 | cr2 | actually it's ok |
| 17:40.49 | tsdogs | cr2: you planning on using a special layer for poi labels? |
| 17:40.52 | cr2 | i'm wondering about 1 thing. this code is taken from mapserver afair. |
| 17:40.57 | BabelO | snakefreak: it is in all kernel tree under Documentation/usb -> http://pastebin.ca/891477 |
| 17:41.15 | cr2 | but mapserver can draw point labels... |
| 17:41.53 | cr2 | tsdogs: yes, many poi layers. |
| 17:42.03 | tsdogs | cr2: but all alone? |
| 17:42.28 | tsdogs | or will they be mixed with streets and so on? |
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| 17:44.14 | cr2 | tsdogs: we have polygon, polyline and "routable" polyline layers now. they will be extended by poi layers. i guess we can reuse the landmark infrastructure. |
| 17:45.01 | cr2 | tsdogs: actually the current code may be convinced to label the 'polygon landmarks' and polygon labels right now. |
| 17:45.09 | tsdogs | cr2: ok. so we simply need to generate a "landmarks" file |
| 17:45.09 | cr2 | without any other code changes. |
| 17:45.56 | cr2 | well, it's a technical issue. the polygon labels are already in the db (.rdm) think how to draw them :) |
| 17:46.28 | tsdogs | cr2: ok, but how do I know if I need to draw them or not? |
| 17:46.38 | cr2 | there is no exported api to fetch these labels by polygon id, but it can be easily added. |
| 17:46.57 | cr2 | tsdogs: if you draw the respective polygon ? |
| 17:47.11 | tsdogs | if (total_length_ptr && *total_length_ptr && (cutoff_dist == 0 || cutoff_dist > roadmap_math_screen_distance(&seg_middle, &loweredge, MATH_DIST_SQUARED)) ) |
| 17:47.11 | tsdogs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.20 | cr2 | each polygon has a label. it may be=NULL though. |
| 17:47.39 | tsdogs | ok this is done by the first 2 |
| 17:47.59 | cr2 | cutoff_dist > is ok. |
| 17:49.04 | fredsa | is xanadux the only linux effort for the htc? |
| 17:49.48 | tsdogs | cr2: ok then probably the code is filtered before ... |
| 17:49.55 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've thought about routing too, and it can be done completely independent from the current code. you only need to supply the start/end points and highlight the calculated route. |
| 17:50.28 | cr2 | tsdogs: so we are not speaking about some major code changes here. |
| 17:50.33 | tsdogs | cr2: ok something like the editor is doing. |
| 17:51.16 | cr2 | yes, but editor breaks the binary compatibility by adding more tables to .rdm |
| 17:52.24 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'm also crazy about editing the oneway/name/turn restrictions without importing all other _editor stuff. |
| 17:53.22 | tsdogs | cr2: there was some talking about importing the editor stuff into the mainline ... |
| 17:53.36 | cr2 | when you press on the segment, you get a yellow tip. why not a small editing widget, that will say the stuff to ~/.roadmap/edits/ ? |
| 17:53.59 | tsdogs | cr2: do u have an example map with 0 width lines labels? |
| 17:54.24 | cr2 | the _editor changes consist of many changes, it's not so easy to do at once. |
| 17:54.41 | cr2 | hmm. i had one... |
| 17:54.54 | cr2 | probably i need to recreate it. |
| 17:55.00 | tsdogs | cr2: that could probably be some plugin or extension and i don't think it will be so dificult. |
| 17:55.16 | cr2 | it was easy with postgis, not so easy with the current shapefiles. |
| 17:55.33 | tsdogs | cr2: I mean the edit part :) |
| 17:55.41 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:55.54 | cr2 | i think _editor should be split into 4 parts. |
| 17:56.44 | cr2 | editor, realtime generator, navigation gui+directions, routing graph calculations itself. |
| 17:56.46 | tsdogs | cr2: I think u are right about using landmarks for the poi labels, so they could be imported / exported without having to change the rdm |
| 17:56.57 | cr2 | yes. |
| 17:57.32 | cr2 | also if you'll have the landmarks rendered, it will be trivial to add the generic pois. |
| 17:57.42 | tsdogs | yep. |
| 17:58.12 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.28 | cr2 | they probably don#t even need rotation at all. |
| 17:58.57 | tsdogs | cr2: landmarks display fine right now |
| 17:58.58 | cr2 | btw, label buffering is a big performance hit. |
| 17:59.10 | cr2 | 'personal' or 'polygon' ? |
| 17:59.16 | tsdogs | cr2: personal |
| 17:59.35 | cr2 | ok, let's extend it to polygons |
| 18:00.17 | cr2 | you only need to fix/export the get_landmark_by_id() |
| 18:00.56 | tsdogs | cr2: I think I lost u here |
| 18:02.03 | tsdogs | u mean to handle more files? |
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| 18:03.44 | cr2 | tsdogs: how do you pick the landmark label for rendering from .rdm ? |
| 18:04.14 | tsdogs | :) cr2 I thought we were talking about creating a separate file |
| 18:05.42 | tsdogs | cr2: I have no idea on how to pick them from rdm |
| 18:05.47 | cr2 | no. to render it, you need to get it's dictionary id. and afair there is no exported function for thst. |
| 18:06.41 | tsdogs | cr2: waypoints are displayed after the map is rendered, and they have all the info they need for them to be displayed... |
| 18:06.55 | cr2 | actually i've already forgot the fine details :) |
| 18:07.36 | cr2 | for the polygon to be rendered, you need to know its id. |
| 18:07.48 | tsdogs | I think it could be nice to have them created from the map info (db or whatever) only opening the file and adding them with roadmap_landmark_add |
| 18:07.52 | cr2 | then there should be a way to get the string by this id. |
| 18:08.14 | cr2 | yes :) you think about a different problem now. |
| 18:08.45 | cr2 | think how to render the labels already added with roadmap_landmark_add(), which are in the .rdm already. |
| 18:08.46 | tsdogs | ok but why do we need an id, if they are not releated to a square but to a point |
| 18:09.51 | cr2 | each polygon has an associated point (aka centroid) which roadmap calls 'landmark' |
| 18:10.07 | cr2 | this this point has a string label. |
| 18:10.27 | cr2 | so this label is directly associated with each polygon. |
| 18:10.52 | cr2 | for 90% of polygons it's just NULL. |
| 18:11.57 | cr2 | if you'll look ath the buildmap code, you'll see that roadmap_landmark_add() is called for each polygon, before adding its edge lines. |
| 18:12.24 | tsdogs | ok looking at the waypoint structure there is a shortname which probably is what we need |
| 18:12.48 | tsdogs | really? I thoguth that landmarks were only used by the user and not by buildmap |
| 18:12.59 | cr2 | it's for personal landmarks only. it's a completely different thing. |
| 18:13.33 | cr2 | personal landmarks are a later .gpx addon. |
| 18:13.49 | cr2 | the polygon landmarks were there from the very beginning. |
| 18:15.34 | tsdogs | cr2: I'm dumb and lost :( |
| 18:16.23 | cr2 | look at buildmap_polygon.c |
| 18:16.25 | tsdogs | ok then they are called differently not landmark, from what I can see there are trip, route and personal landmarks |
| 18:16.45 | cr2 | yes, it's all .gpx stuff. not the .rdm |
| 18:16.54 | tsdogs | ho buildmap_polygon_add_landmark :) |
| 18:17.22 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.22 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.45 | cr2 | yes, but you need an inverse operation to pick the 'name' by 'landid' |
| 18:18.02 | cr2 | cfcc is just the 'layer' |
| 18:18.26 | cr2 | maybe we'd rename it, but it will make mainline merges more ugly. |
| 18:18.49 | tsdogs | buildmap_polygon_search_landmark (int landid) |
| 18:18.55 | cr2 | static |
| 18:19.11 | cr2 | and _polygon_ is a bit misleading. |
| 18:20.14 | cr2 | we may have buildmap_add_landmark() and roadmap_search_landmark(landid) , or something like that. |
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| 18:20.42 | cr2 | roadmap_search_landmark(oid) may be even better. |
| 18:20.53 | cr2 | for object id. |
| 18:21.18 | cr2 | whether it's tlid or landid or poiid . |
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| 18:21.50 | tsdogs | ok, but is this "landmark" used in the roadmap_ code? |
| 18:22.13 | cr2 | no. |
| 18:22.48 | cr2 | but you can add it to the 'personal' landmark renderer. |
| 18:22.48 | tsdogs | ok so the data is in the rdm but never used? |
| 18:22.48 | cr2 | yes :) |
| 18:23.05 | cr2 | maybe not 'personal' but to the polygon renderer. |
| 18:23.29 | tsdogs | yes |
| 18:23.38 | cr2 | it may clash with the polylines and labels though. but i think it's a minor problem now. |
| 18:23.49 | tsdogs | 'cause it does not know about the polygons drawn |
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| 18:25.23 | tsdogs | cr2: what is the landid then? it's the polyid or what? |
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| 18:30.48 | cr2 | tsdogs: they may be different in TIGER (i don't know), but i set them equal in my maps. |
| 18:31.40 | tsdogs | cr2: there is no info about this in the Polygon |
| 18:31.52 | cr2 | tsdogs: it was a very stupid idea to design this program around the TIGER data format :) Paul will burn me for such thoughts :) |
| 18:31.52 | tsdogs | cr2: buildmap_polygon_eliminate_zero_length_lines :) |
| 18:32.28 | cr2 | it's a workaround for data bugs. |
| 18:33.48 | tsdogs | cr2: I don't understand having 2 different Polygon stuctures, one for building and one for displaying |
| 18:34.42 | cr2 | ask Paul. i still have some problems with this code anyway. |
| 18:35.03 | tsdogs | hmm me too |
| 18:42.44 | tsdogs | cr2: I don't fully understand the buildmap_polygon code but it seems to me that the Landmarks are only used by buildmap for internal search, and never saved to the rdm |
| 18:42.57 | tsdogs | also the name of the landmark is the name of the polygon |
| 18:43.41 | tsdogs | so displaying the polygon name would result into displaying the Landmark name. |
| 18:44.02 | tsdogs | an easy test would be to log the drawn polygons with a name set. |
| 18:47.03 | tsdogs | ha, the name is never used in the core |
| 18:47.50 | cr2 | tsdogs: i have this |
| 18:47.53 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.53 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.16 | cr2 | so they should be added to the DictionaryLandmark |
| 18:49.21 | tsdogs | cr2: hmm not really sure about it. |
| 18:50.03 | cr2 | i'll check. |
| 18:50.36 | cr2 | hmm, the interesting question is where are the point coordinates :) |
| 18:51.04 | cr2 | but i guess it can be defererenced from polyid with some trickery. |
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| 19:08.54 | kiozen | lol BabelO is always the last one logged at iclem, before the the bot dies. |
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| 19:09.24 | BabelO | :( |
| 19:09.42 | kiozen | BabelO: fearless nick of death :) |
| 19:09.57 | tsdogs | cr2: you sure we need to draw the polygon labels? |
| 19:10.17 | BabelO | strnage thing is that the bot is always connected |
| 19:11.19 | tsdogs | cr2: I probably have an outdated rdm, as I have no polygons displayed thus no labels |
| 19:11.41 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 19:11.48 | tsdogs | cr2: though if it's only a matter of displaying those polygon landmarks, I think it'll be easyer than i though |
| 19:12.03 | tsdogs | I added a roadmap_polygon_name to the code. |
| 19:12.10 | kiozen | BabelO: I wonder how much traffic it generates and what it needs to operate |
| 19:12.27 | cr2 | ok, if it does not crash, commit it :) |
| 19:12.40 | tsdogs | but as i have no polygons displayed (after I resynced with mainline) |
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| 19:12.52 | tsdogs | cr2: it never passes from that code on my version |
| 19:13.01 | tsdogs | but it's easy to comment out :) |
| 19:14.47 | tsdogs | cr2: committing |
| 19:17.11 | tsdogs | cr2: it will probably core dump, there is no NULL checking done, though if it works we can make further improvement |
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| 19:23.31 | cr2 | lol |
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| 19:25.55 | tsdogs | cr2: is it working? |
| 19:27.12 | cr2 | tsdogs: s== roadmap_screen.c, line 555: drawing: 9 |
| 19:27.19 | cr2 | it's some weird stuff. |
| 19:27.41 | tsdogs | ok probably because it's a RoadMapString which is a short |
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| 19:28.47 | tsdogs | ha they are all short :) |
| 19:29.05 | cr2 | yes, how do you pick char * from the dictionary ? |
| 19:29.22 | cr2 | how it's done for the lines ? |
| 19:30.22 | tsdogs | it uses strange stuff |
| 19:30.34 | tsdogs | it's in roadmap_label_add |
| 19:30.52 | goxboxlive | . |
| 19:31.35 | cr2 | tsdogs: 'short' is the index in a dictionary. you need to convert it to the char * |
| 19:31.37 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: thx, building it now. Shoudl it be easy to add smplefm to? |
| 19:31.53 | tsdogs | cr2: ok I'll do further research |
| 19:32.15 | tsdogs | roadmap_plugin_get_street_properties (&cPtr->line, &properties); |
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| 19:33.35 | cr2 | tsdogs: char *roadmap_dictionary_get (RoadMapDictionary d, RoadMapString index |
| 19:34.26 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
| 19:34.46 | tsdogs | cr2: ok |
| 19:37.24 | cr2 | tsdogs: used only in roadmap_street.c ? |
| 19:37.45 | cr2 | hmm. maybe the rivers are streets too :) |
| 19:37.48 | tsdogs | cr2: yes I saw it, we need to open the "landmark" dictionary and then use it |
| 19:38.16 | cr2 | hmm. that means that the city dictionary is not used too ? |
| 19:38.29 | tsdogs | yes probably |
| 19:38.39 | tsdogs | no it's used to display address info |
| 19:38.45 | cr2 | ah, it's probably indexed into the usdir.rdm global index |
| 19:38.48 | tsdogs | it's in roadmap_street to |
| 19:39.10 | cr2 | i mean the city names. |
| 19:39.38 | tsdogs | yes, they are displayed with the street, but no labels |
| 19:39.45 | cr2 | buildus_main.c: name = roadmap_dictionary_get (cities, ++i)) |
| 19:48.24 | cr2 | tsdogs: so it's only necessary to open the right dictionary. |
| 19:48.37 | tsdogs | cr2: yes, I'm trying to do the work |
| 19:48.48 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:51.02 | tsdogs | cr2: ok committing, I'm not able to test it though |
| 19:51.31 | tsdogs | this is a hack, but if it works we can really improve it fast :) |
| 19:52.02 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 19:52.06 | tsdogs | cr2: gg now, bbl |
| 19:53.21 | kiozen | cr2: heat up that old SPARC station in you attic. QLandkarte goes big endian ;) |
| 19:56.35 | cr2 | kiozen: sparc64 ? |
| 19:56.59 | kiozen | afaik everything :) I haven't done it |
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| 19:57.20 | cr2 | kiozen: i have ppc32, but there were some issues with qt4 afair. the readhat glibc may be too old, and there are no newer distributions. |
| 19:57.27 | cr2 | ppc32 is running. |
| 19:58.04 | kiozen | the developer will make some binaries the next days |
| 19:58.45 | cr2 | it's linuxppc |
| 19:59.03 | kiozen | no for OSX |
| 19:59.24 | kiozen | some big blob for both, little/big endian |
| 19:59.36 | cr2 | i have some old osx cds, but never tried it. i prefer linux :) |
| 20:00.23 | kiozen | well it's just for the good feeling to make a map upload before Garmin/Bobcat can do it |
| 20:00.27 | cr2 | i need to intall netbsd-vax eventually :) |
| 20:00.46 | cr2 | linux-vax was not good enough last time i've checked. |
| 20:01.00 | kiozen | there is some open/netbsd port on the run, too |
| 20:01.33 | cr2 | well, i guess only libusb may be a problem. |
| 20:01.46 | cr2 | btw, what about wince ? :) |
| 20:01.54 | kiozen | lol |
| 20:02.16 | kiozen | if they spend 1GB of memory |
| 20:02.18 | cr2 | i've told you that n560 works as a host with external power applied. |
| 20:02.25 | kiozen | yes |
| 20:02.34 | kiozen | the squirels |
| 20:02.45 | cr2 | so there is no technical problem to do it. |
| 20:02.52 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:04.29 | cr2 | i've read that magellan triton uses something like .ozf2 with 256x256 jpeg tiles |
| 20:04.35 | cr2 | http://www.navigation-professionell.de/magellan-triton-gps-handhelds |
| 20:05.17 | kiozen | magellan has good ideas, good hardware, lousy marketting, lousy software |
| 20:05.35 | cr2 | it can run qlandkarteM :) |
| 20:05.48 | kiozen | can it run linux? |
| 20:06.37 | cr2 | i think it runs wince,but not sure. |
| 20:06.55 | cr2 | and if it runs wince, it can run linux :) |
| 20:07.07 | kiozen | there was a uCLinux project fro some older magellans |
| 20:07.35 | kiozen | hm, by that logic it must be easy to run linux on the Loox |
| 20:08.42 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:08.47 | kiozen | btw I hacked the GeoGrid elevation model file |
| 20:08.53 | kiozen | DEM with 25m |
| 20:09.22 | cr2 | loox is more or less done. i found how to control the leds too. |
| 20:09.43 | kiozen | coooool, and the boot problem? |
| 20:09.51 | cr2 | once it'll resume from sleep i'll send it to you. |
| 20:10.14 | cr2 | it works with some gpio manipulations. |
| 20:10.50 | kiozen | what about power savings and battery control? |
| 20:11.23 | cr2 | i'll check if the battery really charges in linux. |
| 20:11.33 | BabelO | cr2: did you see that on n800 they use a midip spi driver for lcd ? |
| 20:12.05 | cr2 | power savings can be certainly improved, but it's a generic pxa27x problem. i'm mostly concerned by the resume now. |
| 20:12.28 | cr2 | BabelO: no. which controller is that ? |
| 20:13.08 | BabelO | cr2: don't know just see it in the code, and it remember me our spi resume thing for boardid 6 |
| 20:13.53 | kiozen | I always wonder how much intelligence is needed to charge the battery. Is it controlled by the processor/kernel (bad) or is it autonomous my some cirquit? |
| 20:14.49 | cr2 | kiozen: usually autonomous. but there are some hacks for charging during sleep on some devices. |
| 20:14.56 | cr2 | BabelO: link ? |
| 20:14.59 | BabelO | kiozen: on ba it is autonomous, there is a security chip, you just have two gpio tto choose from where current is coming |
| 20:15.12 | cr2 | security ? |
| 20:15.21 | kiozen | ok, that is sane |
| 20:15.25 | BabelO | secure chip :) |
| 20:15.52 | cr2 | BabelO: but to control these gpios you need to be awake. |
| 20:16.10 | cr2 | afair hx4700 sets a user timer with resume irq for that. |
| 20:16.20 | cr2 | the rtc timer. |
| 20:17.14 | BabelO | cr2: just xhen we detect usb or craddle we set correct gpio on, and the chip which manage the charge cut it once battery is full |
| 20:18.04 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:22.23 | kiozen | cr2: btw did I tell you that GT can tell you the elevation under cursor if you supply a GeoTiff with 16bit elevation data. see example/Top10Bayern.qmap for example |
| 20:23.23 | kiozen | use http://srtm.csi.cgiar.org/SELECTION/inputCoord.asp to get the files, but you have to convert them from longlat to some meter based projection |
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| 20:25.06 | cr2 | interesting :) |
| 20:25.18 | BabelO | cr2: i ve only lcd_mipid driver in mvista omap source tree -> http://source.mvista.com/git/?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=blob_plain;f=drivers/video/omap/lcd_mipid.c;hb=HEAD |
| 20:32.59 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 20:33.32 | BabelO | cr2: it seem it is like we want to do, but it do more thing ;) |
| 20:36.13 | diogene31 | paulproteus: My qtopia git access is fully functionnal. Thanks. |
| 20:36.25 | paulproteus | diogene31, Great (-: |
| 20:36.32 | paulproteus | I'm working on the Trac now, btw goxboxlive. |
| 20:37.04 | paulproteus | You can use it too for your phone if you like, diogene31. |
| 20:37.34 | diogene31 | paulproteus: I did that too some time ago. You could look that for inspiration, I kept all the traces : http://82.243.122.54/trac/mio_a701/wiki/EnvironmentInit |
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| 20:38.18 | paulproteus | diogene31, Oh, hey - thanks! |
| 20:39.17 | paulproteus | Wow, plugins as eggs sure makes life easy. |
| 20:40.27 | diogene31 | paulproteus: Yep. Good for trac cooking. |
| 20:58.11 | diogene31 | Good night. |
| 20:58.33 | paulproteus | Night! |
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| 21:12.02 | paulproteus | I have a Trac now; later I will add authentication + git support. |
| 21:22.49 | snakefreak | BabelO? are you there? |
| 21:24.02 | snakefreak | can anyone help me with network between ba with arge gpe image and win xp over usb |
| 21:24.19 | goxboxlive | cr2: where do roadmap-qtopiacore4 install? |
| 21:24.43 | BabelO | snakefreak: yes i m here |
| 21:24.50 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 21:24.59 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 21:28.14 | snakefreak | BabelO i become errors in gomunicator (alge latest gpe image) failure is: can´t get mixer element ´phone´ |
| 21:29.46 | BabelO | snakefreak: maybe yes, but phone should work |
| 21:30.23 | snakefreak | it dont work. :-( |
| 21:32.06 | BabelO | snakefreak: i did not test it , do you apply the tar.gz patch too *? |
| 21:34.03 | snakefreak | tar.gz no do you have a link? or you mean his http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/gpe-alge.tar (thats older then the fs image) |
| 21:34.51 | BabelO | snakefreak: yes this, it is older, but image is a standard from OE, and with this patch, you have custom |
| 21:35.59 | snakefreak | ah ok |
| 21:36.00 | snakefreak | ^^ |
| 21:36.56 | snakefreak | can you help me with other problem ( network between ba and win xp over usb)? |
| 21:37.19 | BabelO | snakefreak: do you try what i say earlier ? |
| 21:37.49 | snakefreak | yes |
| 21:38.30 | BabelO | snakefreak: and ? do you have a new network adapter under windows ? |
| 21:39.17 | snakefreak | i have maked a inf file. but nothing happends. then i have searched for other in files and found one i can install. but in network manager in xp no conection ( same as no cable pluged) in |
| 21:40.07 | snakefreak | wow |
| 21:40.17 | BabelO | snakefreak: how do you proceed ? you plug ba , then windows say new rndis ether detected, then you select linux.inf as driver ? |
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| 21:40.35 | snakefreak | yes |
| 21:40.55 | BabelO | no error message ? nothing ? |
| 21:41.05 | tsdogs | hi |
| 21:41.12 | snakefreak | nothing |
| 21:41.16 | tsdogs | cr2: does it work ? |
| 21:41.45 | BabelO | snakefreak: so now, when you go to peripheral manager, under network card, you see the rndis ? |
| 21:42.12 | snakefreak | yes |
| 21:42.50 | snakefreak | i can configure a mac adress but nothing happen when i do |
| 21:43.15 | BabelO | configure a mac adress ? that is not possible |
| 21:43.34 | BabelO | snakefreak: an ip adress yes, what did you set as ip adress ? |
| 21:43.53 | snakefreak | 192.168.230.200 |
| 21:44.00 | snakefreak | subnet 255.255.0.0 |
| 21:44.20 | snakefreak | i take a sreenshot mom |
| 21:45.21 | tsdogs | paulproteus: around? |
| 21:47.35 | BabelO | snakefreak: did you change ba ip adress too ? |
| 21:50.23 | snakefreak | no its standard adress. |
| 21:50.57 | snakefreak | my webspace inst aviable yet. nothing whith sreenshot. |
| 21:51.09 | BabelO | snakefreak: so change your pc adress on same subnet |
| 21:51.16 | BabelO | it is normal it does not work |
| 21:51.37 | BabelO | snakefreak: set your windows ip adress to 192.168.0.200 and mask to 255.255.255.0 |
| 21:52.11 | snakefreak | aok |
| 21:53.02 | snakefreak | nothin happens no connection. |
| 21:55.02 | snakefreak | http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/5kvr-1.jpg |
| 21:55.03 | BabelO | snakefreak: you plug the ba on usb ? try to do ipconfig /all |
| 21:55.50 | snakefreak | ok mom |
| 21:58.02 | snakefreak | no conection. |
| 21:58.15 | snakefreak | i restart my desktop mom plz |
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| 22:02.51 | snakefreak | nothing happens |
| 22:05.41 | snakefreak | BabelO this is screen ba is connected but no conection not. http://www.pictureupload.de/originals/pictures/040208230918_1111111111.jpg |
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| 22:07.33 | snakefreak | Hello ALGe |
| 22:08.58 | AlGe | hi |
| 22:11.04 | snakefreak | i play with your ba images. plz tell me the diffrenz between gpe image and gpephone. |
| 22:11.11 | AlGe | I just enlarged my gadget collection with universal :-) |
| 22:11.24 | AlGe | gpe-phone is not working |
| 22:11.25 | BabelO | AlGe: lol |
| 22:11.39 | snakefreak | ok |
| 22:12.04 | AlGe | or at least I have no clue how it should work |
| 22:13.14 | snakefreak | do you know what is the grond for this? : http://www.pictureupload.de/originals/pictures/040208230918_1111111111.jpg |
| 22:13.42 | snakefreak | ba is pluged in and but i become no conection. |
| 22:14.08 | AlGe | Babelo: where should I start with the uni? updating the rom to some release which dosent need to be rebooted 2 times a day? |
| 22:14.35 | BabelO | snakefreak: what is your other usb connection ? |
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| 22:15.14 | BabelO | AlGe: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa then take goxboxlive folder at http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/tmp |
| 22:15.49 | snakefreak | Tl-wn321 is my wifi stick. |
| 22:16.30 | BabelO | snakefreak: ah ok ;) |
| 22:17.14 | BabelO | AlGe: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/O.P.I.E-II/ image here is automatic install, just copy exe and root file on top of your sdcard be sure you have 200Mb frre then run it |
| 22:17.40 | AlGe | Babelo: ok will try. Is it better (wrt. connecting via usb from linux to device running wince, odccm) to leave wm5 or take some of the wm6 roms? |
| 22:18.25 | BabelO | AlGe: after that get http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/tmp/ and replace your opt folder by the one provided |
| 22:18.57 | BabelO | AlGe: no , i use both with odccm wm5/6 and works perfect |
| 22:18.58 | parmaster | babel0, is there something like that for the ba/ |
| 22:21.37 | BabelO | parmaster: like what ? odccm ? |
| 22:29.00 | AlGe | Babelo: another thing (BA related): I tried to get a large capacity battery recognised by ds1wm, but still without success. Im printking the batt rom id somewhere in ds1wm code at a place where I thought the w1bus device detection takes place ( http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/print-romid.patch). but It didnt reach this. |
| 22:30.21 | AlGe | but with the original (or replacement) standard battery the printk is reached over and over again: |
| 22:30.21 | AlGe | ds1wm: found rom id: 0xC700001131C0DE30 |
| 22:30.38 | BabelO | AlGe: ymerj do same thing one or two month ago, he replace and force to the new id |
| 22:32.27 | AlGe | yes I remember, but I didnt get it how this was related to the rom id. he changed some ...FAMILY... or similar define from 0x3? to 0xFF if i'm correct |
| 22:33.10 | AlGe | and I guess this will break the standard battery to be recognized |
| 22:35.20 | snakefreak | a replacment good point i have testet to run gpe on 5 4gb sd cards its not runing.^^ |
| 22:36.55 | BabelO | AlGe: yes about the FAMILY, look for the test somewhere :) |
| 22:37.36 | AlGe | Babelo: W1_FAMILY_DS2760 in ./drivers/w1/w1_family.h (defined to x30) |
| 22:37.57 | BabelO | AlGe: yes i remember, but where is it used ? |
| 22:38.24 | AlGe | Babelo: thats my problem, ... |
| 22:39.09 | BabelO | AlGe: grep W1_FAMILY_DS2760 * -R in dirvers/w1 |
| 22:41.36 | AlGe | Babelo: yes, of course i searched it and it turned out that it has something to do with some fid (family id) and some slave_found or slave_found callback ... |
| 22:42.21 | BabelO | AlGe: yes and you see the funciton w1_register_family ? there is a struct in argument |
| 22:43.57 | BabelO | AlGe: so maybe you can duplicate the struct in vi slaves/w1_ds2760.c change the fid and add another regoister line and check both return code :) |
| 22:46.49 | AlGe | you mean w1_ds2760_init should call w1_register_family twice with diffferent structs and return if w1_register_family is succesful? |
| 22:57.02 | AlGe | I'll try it with this http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/large-batt.diff ... lets see |
| 22:59.30 | snakefreak | babel0 network is runnig^^ |
| 23:00.21 | snakefreak | internal in may cradle was a cable pluged out. |
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