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| 02:21.39 | PITABoy | well HTC wrote me back and said that since that putting linux on the device would void the warentee that they are unable to help |
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| 05:27.12 | goxboxlive | ,orning |
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| 05:47.38 | ellisway | morning goxboxlive |
| 05:48.28 | goxboxlive | hi :-) |
| 05:48.37 | goxboxlive | early up |
| 05:49.04 | ellisway | yeh |
| 05:49.30 | ellisway | been doing a server upgrade over night almost finished now |
| 05:49.45 | ellisway | just reading through logs on the box to make sure everything is ok |
| 05:50.52 | ellisway | hows things going with the universal in your current images |
| 05:52.31 | ellisway | dont no did u see in logs about the htc-linux.org domain name |
| 05:55.16 | ellisway | domain is registered and active now but no pages on the server atm |
| 06:04.54 | ellisway | well there wasn`t but i`m copying the index from linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa |
| 06:05.14 | ellisway | better than it having a blank page |
| 06:08.05 | goxboxlive | ok, but you should edit the links so they are linked to linuxtogo. Now i only get bad link. |
| 06:10.26 | ellisway | yeh |
| 06:10.43 | ellisway | just finished copying the images accross will do the links in a sec |
| 06:11.19 | ellisway | i`m gonna upgrade 1 of my old nas boxes aswell and use it for the storage for just the htc-linu.org domain |
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| 06:20.06 | ellisway | ok links all done |
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| 08:10.55 | wild | where is babel0 ? |
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| 09:09.06 | cr2 | hi ellisway |
| 09:10.57 | cr2 | ellisway: are you going to setup a wiki ? another useful thing is to register a RSA/DSA key for the data upload. |
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| 09:44.32 | ellisway | i was thinking about spending a work of working out what we want on the server |
| 09:45.05 | ellisway | i can also give all the main devs access to the server without any issues |
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| 09:45.56 | ellisway | i did try to move the storage onto a ld dell nas box via a nfs mount but i cant get the mount to work how i want it |
| 09:47.48 | ellisway | do you have a personal preference of wiki system to use cr2 ? |
| 09:57.58 | cr2 | no, take what is most convenient to you. |
| 09:58.18 | cr2 | bbl |
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| 10:06.21 | ellisway | ok gonna go for mediawiki for the moment i think |
| 10:06.44 | ellisway | mediawiki is the wiki system used by wikipedia amongst others |
| 10:07.19 | ellisway | hopfully it will suit our needs |
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| 10:52.46 | goxboxlive | We cant have more pages for hosting linux dist for htc devices. This is exactly why went from gnulinux.biz since it was an private server. Hosting at linuxtogo is more safe, because if i quit the project (get tired of it or something) then all my work will be left on linuxtogo with other persons than me has access. |
| 10:53.27 | goxboxlive | If ellisway gets tired of this he might forget to renew our accounts, in worst case he ends his account and all our work will be lost. |
| 10:53.40 | goxboxlive | So i will pnly hopst my images at linuxtogo. |
| 10:54.11 | goxboxlive | And i think pH5 and also kevin2 should do the same so we have a common host site for all the htc devices. |
| 11:09.31 | ellisway | i want to give u access to maintain this yourselfs goxboxlive |
| 11:10.38 | ellisway | i certainly dont want to make things more awkward and spread the information thinner than it is already |
| 11:11.15 | ellisway | as for the domain renewal its set to auto renew |
| 11:12.25 | ellisway | this isn`t an account for me as such |
| 11:16.41 | goxboxlive | ellisway: It has nothing to do if i get acces or not. The main problem is that we need to have it a permanent place. Linuxtogo is not a private server, like handhelds.org. And for the prject ion the futere i think this is the best. |
| 11:18.36 | goxboxlive | ellisway: dont get me wrong, i like your idea about this, but the problem is that it is an private server. I think the best will be that you link to linuxtogo from htc-linux.org. I dont think hosting files and images both places is a good idea. It will take to much time to maintain. |
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| 14:57.58 | dcordes | hi |
| 15:12.31 | dcordes | ~seen Zooloc |
| 15:12.37 | apt | i haven't seen 'zooloc', dcordes |
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| 15:44.42 | BabelO | hi |
| 15:48.38 | BabelO | cr2: http://arxiv.org/abs/0711.0770 surfers are good guy ;) |
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| 15:50.58 | cr2 | BabelO: it's only a theory. like the evolution :) |
| 15:52.11 | kiozen | wasn't eveolution a ferrytale ;) |
| 15:52.15 | BabelO | cr2: yes but interesting ;) |
| 15:52.23 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 15:52.32 | kiozen | hi |
| 15:52.53 | kiozen | BabelO got rid of most phone stuff |
| 15:53.13 | BabelO | cr2: theory is good but he need a web designer -> http://interstice.com/~aglisi/ |
| 15:53.13 | kiozen | only quick dial left over |
| 15:53.31 | BabelO | kiozen: quick dialer is easy to remove, just edit xml file for your theme ;) |
| 15:54.22 | BabelO | kiozen: /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/themes/finix/home.xml or something like that |
| 15:54.29 | kiozen | ok |
| 15:54.35 | BabelO | kiozen: so you fix the sound issue ? |
| 15:55.00 | kiozen | well I made it to ignore the sound issue |
| 15:55.25 | BabelO | ok |
| 15:55.33 | kiozen | and started to assemble something like a distro to start building on |
| 15:55.57 | kiozen | then came cr2 and mutter something like skinning for QLandkarte |
| 15:57.02 | BabelO | kiozen: ok actually i use OE rootfs as build system, my only problem is cmake cross compile setup |
| 15:57.18 | kiozen | : cmake is a beast |
| 15:57.23 | kiozen | but an interesting one |
| 15:57.41 | kiozen | I use amstrong console |
| 15:57.49 | BabelO | kiozen: do you have an idea how can i make a dialogbox with an input line ? i found MessageBox, but no input, looking more ... |
| 15:58.04 | kiozen | s/amstrong /angstrom |
| 15:58.40 | kiozen | there should be one .... |
| 15:58.50 | BabelO | kiozen: yes same thing for me angstrom console, with some addons for roadmap adn my IM tools, but i need cmake to build some tapioca library :( and i edit by hand makefile :( |
| 15:59.32 | BabelO | kiozen: yes QInputDialog |
| 16:00.25 | kiozen | I need to crosscompile gdal... |
| 16:01.09 | BabelO | kiozen: gdal is well done, it compile on msvc and gcc ...i hope same on arm gcc :) |
| 16:01.44 | kiozen | hope is dying last ;) |
| 16:02.49 | cr2 | kiozen: gdal ipk is available ? |
| 16:03.11 | kiozen | is it? |
| 16:03.28 | cr2 | i think so. |
| 16:03.55 | kiozen | I need development headers too, let's see |
| 16:04.39 | kiozen | cr2: are line tokens mutual exclusive to polygon tokens in roadmap's skin file? |
| 16:04.59 | cr2 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/base/ |
| 16:05.01 | cr2 | gdaldev |
| 16:05.17 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, they should be. |
| 16:05.32 | kiozen | should or are as a rule? |
| 16:05.37 | cr2 | otherwise it's difficult to separate them. |
| 16:05.55 | cr2 | afair, i have a problem with the airport or something like that. |
| 16:06.12 | cr2 | so i've renamed them *P and *L |
| 16:06.45 | cr2 | what i really hate about roadmap are the missing poi labels. |
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| 16:14.15 | kmARC11 | Hi! |
| 16:15.44 | kmARC11 | I've got a HTC Uiversal (Xda Exec) and successfully booted linux on it, but now I have some further questions. |
| 16:20.13 | cr2 | BabelO: http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/11/12686 |
| 16:21.48 | cr2 | BabelO: this is the price of using agps. |
| 16:23.09 | BabelO | cr2: no :) i use agps, by downloading ee file by hand only, no automatic app |
| 16:23.50 | cr2 | BabelO: the qualcomm firmware does it for you too ;) |
| 16:24.54 | BabelO | cr2: i already that operator use our IMEI to trace, because they are able to remote lock a phone definitively but agree that weather and stocks tracking is very strange ... |
| 16:25.33 | cr2 | the tracking by operator is obvious. because it's a part of the system. |
| 16:25.56 | cr2 | but tracking by third-parties is not. |
| 16:26.23 | BabelO | anyaway it is a good unique ID ;) |
| 16:26.34 | BabelO | without any code |
| 16:26.35 | BabelO | lol |
| 16:26.39 | cr2 | be it apple, htc or some ltd in your artemis rom. |
| 16:28.50 | cr2 | not only without any code, but also without your concent and knowledge. |
| 16:29.37 | BabelO | actually in france if you want to cancel a contract because operator phone coverage at home does not exist, you can in some way, but operator are able to test your phone position and tell you by phone " You are at home !!" |
| 16:29.37 | cr2 | kmARC11: you should ask goxboxlive about the uni. |
| 16:30.24 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, because they know the coordinates of their base stations, and the time delay to your phone. |
| 16:30.34 | BabelO | cr2: agps download is done from some HTC webside with password, butno IMEI on URL ;) work with standard ftp too |
| 16:30.44 | kmARC11 | cr2: thankyou |
| 16:30.45 | cr2 | it's the same triangulation tech used by gps. |
| 16:31.39 | BabelO | cr2: yes i see a german guy which made a thesis and small software on that :) |
| 16:31.58 | cr2 | BabelO: there was a choice between the htc website and some ltd.uk |
| 16:32.28 | cr2 | BabelO: i can remember there was the wince software (gpl) for ba |
| 16:33.01 | cr2 | now i feel happy that universal does not have the gps chip soldered :) |
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| 16:33.29 | cr2 | and a780 gps is obviously evil :) |
| 16:33.44 | cr2 | need to resolder it anyway. |
| 16:36.50 | BabelO | kiozen: qt is really nice, style sheet on widget is usefull to add some visual effect without code |
| 16:37.32 | kiozen | never played with it |
| 16:59.01 | kiozen | cr2: skinning for polylines works with QLandkarte from repository |
| 16:59.19 | kiozen | simply copy the skinfile as skin.txt to ~/.config/QLandkarte |
| 16:59.34 | kiozen | polygons are next |
| 17:01.17 | cr2 | kiozen: that's really nice, i'll check today in the evening. |
| 17:01.51 | kiozen | you weren't the first one bugging ;) |
| 17:02.36 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:02.48 | cr2 | you've included mingw .a files in svn ? |
| 17:03.06 | kiozen | yes some ongoing port for win32 |
| 17:03.16 | kiozen | not by "baustelle" |
| 17:03.23 | cr2 | i also need to check the 76Cx |
| 17:03.24 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:03.32 | cr2 | do i need an usb sniffer ? |
| 17:03.41 | cr2 | or you have used snoopypro ? |
| 17:04.23 | kiozen | no just enable DBG in CUSB.cpp |
| 17:04.37 | kiozen | and QLandkarte will dump the protocol to console |
| 17:04.41 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:04.58 | kiozen | once I know what protocolls are used, we will see. |
| 17:05.12 | kiozen | most likely it's just another link |
| 17:06.16 | cr2 | i think so. |
| 17:06.32 | cr2 | unknown codepage: 850 0x 352 |
| 17:06.38 | cr2 | on the osm tiles. |
| 17:07.11 | cr2 | gpsmapedit reports only '850' |
| 17:08.27 | kiozen | second one is just the same as hex |
| 17:08.50 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:10.21 | kiozen | hm what QTextCodec is 850? |
| 17:11.24 | cr2 | don't mind, it's completely broken anyway. |
| 17:11.59 | kiozen | IBM 850? |
| 17:12.18 | cr2 | yes, but i guess they mean 1252 ? |
| 17:12.44 | cr2 | what is the latin1 codepage ? |
| 17:13.02 | cr2 | i'm not that much into windows :) |
| 17:13.17 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 17:13.29 | kiozen | it was replaced by that according to wikipedia |
| 17:13.36 | kiozen | fixed in repository |
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| 17:17.55 | cr2 | kiozen: really neat :) |
| 17:18.14 | kiozen | hm, tracking first bug... |
| 17:26.51 | kiozen | cr2: ok, highways are now real highways |
| 17:29.30 | cr2 | Bus 001 Device 083: ID 091e:0003 Garmin International GPSmap (various models) |
| 17:29.54 | kiozen | not the one I need |
| 17:30.08 | cr2 | i know. |
| 17:30.19 | cr2 | it's the wrong machine. |
| 17:31.09 | kiozen | ok, have to go, just post a pastebin orr a mail, bbl |
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| 18:25.48 | goxboxlive | cr2: are you here? |
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| 18:43.08 | wild | hi BabelO ... i have 2 question for you! are you here? |
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| 18:44.03 | kmARC_11 | hi goxboxlive! |
| 18:44.16 | BabelO | wild: yes |
| 18:44.20 | kmARC_11 | I have some questions about using linux on my HTC |
| 18:45.44 | goxboxlive | kmARC_11: szia, hógy vógy. What can i do to help? |
| 18:47.09 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: "szia, hógy vógy" ? what's this? :) |
| 18:47.13 | wild | BabelO: 1 question: When i try to compile the last cvs kernel from handsheld: 2.6.21hh18, after i set .config with script and make cross compile, i have this error: make[1]: *** [__modpost] Error 1 |
| 18:47.23 | wild | sorry for my bad english! |
| 18:47.48 | wild | so vmlinuz is done |
| 18:47.52 | wild | but not modules :( |
| 18:48.52 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: OK, so my problem is that touchscreen won't work and because of this, I cannot inspect that other things are working |
| 18:49.09 | BabelO | wild: can you pastebin all last lines you see in your console ? |
| 18:51.05 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: I tried the opieII, the GPE and the OpenMOKO tarbz2-s |
| 18:51.15 | wild | yes |
| 18:51.17 | wild | one moment |
| 18:52.12 | wild | AS arch/arm/boot/compressed/head-xscale.o |
| 18:52.12 | wild | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.12 | wild | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.13 | wild | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.13 | wild | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.13 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: once - I don't no why - the PDE worked, and I could adjust the brightness, and try suspending, but then it freezed |
| 18:52.14 | wild | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.14 | wild | WARNING: "soc_pcmcia_request_irqs" [arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_pcm cia.ko] undefined! |
| 18:52.17 | wild | WARNING: "soc_pcmcia_free_irqs" [arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_pcmcia .ko] undefined! |
| 18:52.20 | wild | WARNING: "soc_pcmcia_enable_irqs" [arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_pcmc ia.ko] undefined! |
| 18:52.23 | wild | WARNING: "soc_pcmcia_disable_irqs" [arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_pcm cia.ko] undefined! |
| 18:52.26 | wild | make[1]: *** [__modpost] Error 1 |
| 18:52.28 | wild | make: *** [modules] Error 2 |
| 18:53.06 | BabelO | wild: oups, i mean pastebin to http://pastebin.ca; something like this .. :) |
| 18:53.21 | BabelO | wild: which config file do you use ? |
| 18:54.14 | wild | i use the script: htcblueangel_defconfig |
| 18:54.31 | wild | so i put: make htcblueangel_defconfig |
| 18:54.33 | wild | before |
| 18:55.19 | wild | path of script is: arch/arm/configs/ |
| 18:57.10 | BabelO | wild: there is another script automatically made by a tools at hh |
| 18:57.10 | BabelO | wait |
| 18:57.35 | BabelO | wild: this one htcblueangel_static_defconfig |
| 18:57.54 | wild | in the same directory |
| 18:57.55 | wild | ? |
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| 18:58.16 | wild | okok |
| 18:58.30 | BabelO | wild you just do make htcblueangel_static_defconfig && make |
| 18:59.00 | BabelO | wild: it is the latest with correct setup and change for latest kernel |
| 18:59.39 | wild | ok... i try now... one moment.. |
| 18:59.46 | wild | so 2 question :) |
| 19:00.08 | wild | shell for qtopia?... |
| 19:00.13 | wild | any news? |
| 19:00.27 | BabelO | no, no news |
| 19:00.55 | wild | 3 question: i can use blueangel script config for openmoko kernel ?.. |
| 19:00.57 | wild | :P |
| 19:01.13 | BabelO | wild: yes it is same |
| 19:01.51 | wild | but i don't apply neo1973 patch.. tight? |
| 19:01.53 | wild | right? |
| 19:02.19 | BabelO | right |
| 19:02.25 | wild | so i can download a pure kernel from kernel.org and apply the script?.. |
| 19:02.57 | BabelO | wild: you have to build your one kernel only, and then start openmoko image with your kernel |
| 19:04.41 | wild | ok....... BabelO , i appreciate your help! thanks! :P i'm compiling with static script.... 4 question: Amstrong X image... have X shell build in? |
| 19:05.35 | BabelO | wild: yes you have shell in angstrom opie 1.2 or gpe image |
| 19:07.34 | wild | mhhh ok! Babel0 can you give me your email? :P ou are important person for me! :) |
| 19:09.58 | wild | BabelO: where are you from? can i invite you in my university for a conference?... my staff pay you! |
| 19:11.14 | BabelO | wild: i m from france, invite cr2 , he like italia ;) and you can learn more with him |
| 19:11.41 | wild | you hate italia instead? :P |
| 19:11.46 | wild | ehhehe |
| 19:11.56 | BabelO | no no |
| 19:12.09 | wild | i'm not joke, my professor can invite you! |
| 19:13.00 | BabelO | lol |
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| 19:17.43 | wild | BabelO: Workk :) thanlksssssss!!! |
| 19:24.45 | dcordes | hi |
| 19:24.45 | dcordes | Zoolooc: did you try to boot something yet? |
| 19:24.45 | goxboxlive | kmARC_11 DIsable wifi in wince before you boot linux. I thuoght this where fixed by now. |
| 19:24.46 | kmARC_11 | ok. I'm trying... |
| 19:24.46 | cr2 | goxboxlive: back to the computer. |
| 19:24.46 | goxboxlive | cr2: ? |
| 19:24.47 | cr2 | kiozen: i've got the 76Cx logs. |
| 19:24.51 | kiozen | ok |
| 19:24.55 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you were searching for me :) |
| 19:25.17 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes, do we have a event when we plug in the usb cable? |
| 19:25.19 | cr2 | kiozen: prepare for a tide ;) |
| 19:25.38 | kiozen | ok steaddy.... |
| 19:26.27 | cr2 | kiozen: not because of my dump :) |
| 19:26.39 | kiozen | ohhhhhhhhh..... |
| 19:26.57 | kiozen | you got a new kernel? |
| 19:27.03 | kiozen | :)# |
| 19:27.14 | cr2 | kiozen: i've read that the russians have written a keygen for garmin. i wish the'd documentented NET and NOD instead ;) |
| 19:27.18 | Zoolooc | hi |
| 19:27.29 | kiozen | lol |
| 19:27.39 | kiozen | you don't need a key |
| 19:27.39 | Zoolooc | dcordes: no, should I have tried something |
| 19:27.42 | cr2 | kiozen: the kernel is coming too :) |
| 19:28.11 | cr2 | the log for 76Cx http://pastebin.ca/784589 |
| 19:28.34 | dcordes | Zoolooc: no idea- I just was curious whether you tried to compile/boot a kernel for kaiser yet or not- The htc titan guys did- w/o big success though |
| 19:28.47 | dcordes | but I think we should also give it a try :) |
| 19:30.00 | cr2 | dcordes: try to create a lightweight config for msm7200. |
| 19:30.34 | kiozen | cr2: same as my GPSMap 60Scx |
| 19:30.45 | dcordes | cr2: defconfig? How would I try that? Taking android's halibut defconf as example? |
| 19:30.55 | cr2 | goxboxlive: afaik we don't have an usb event. only the irq. |
| 19:31.05 | goxboxlive | Ok |
| 19:31.08 | kiozen | I need the 3 blocks befor the protocol dump to get Garmins device id |
| 19:31.11 | cr2 | dcordes: yes, and remove unneeded parts. |
| 19:31.23 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll send them to you. |
| 19:31.30 | kiozen | ack |
| 19:31.52 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: now the touchscreen works |
| 19:32.02 | goxboxlive | kmARC_11: :-) good |
| 19:32.48 | cr2 | kiozen: what is in the third block ? |
| 19:32.50 | dcordes | cr2: do I just apply the (modified) halibut defconfig to the kernel.org kernel? |
| 19:33.28 | cr2 | dcordes: run make menuconfig, and change what you don't need. |
| 19:33.40 | kiozen | the protocols. :) |
| 19:33.48 | dcordes | cr2: with the unpatched vanilla kernel? |
| 19:33.52 | cr2 | goxboxlive: something clogs the ASIC3, so the touchscreen irq is not processed. |
| 19:33.54 | kiozen | the list is just a pretty print |
| 19:34.11 | dcordes | cr2: or do I want to fetch the git repository from android? |
| 19:34.15 | cr2 | dcordes: with the android kernel |
| 19:34.33 | goxboxlive | cr2: we should fix it. Do you know how? |
| 19:35.23 | cr2 | goxboxlive: is the wifi gpio setup complete ? i don't remember, need to have a look. all this asic3 stuff needs a cleanup anyway. |
| 19:36.00 | dcordes | cr2: ok :) will read my way through man git |
| 19:36.28 | goxboxlive | cr2: I have no idea of it is complete or not. |
| 19:36.52 | goxboxlive | Probably it has something with unstable wifi since .16 |
| 19:39.33 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: OK, and ae there any way |
| 19:39.44 | kmARC_11 | to get wifi work in gpe? |
| 19:40.28 | goxboxlive | load acx module |
| 19:41.32 | kmARC_11 | thx |
| 19:43.44 | Zoolooc | I did build the msm kernel, but never come to the point to try booting it on my kaiser |
| 19:44.08 | Zoolooc | also, I don't really know what to disable from the default halibut config (which I used) |
| 19:44.36 | Zoolooc | does haret log anything when attempting to boot a kernel? |
| 19:46.02 | dcordes | Zoolooc: cr2 just advised me to rip off unneeded stuff from the halibut config |
| 19:46.29 | cr2 | Zoolooc: it will not work anyway, because you (1) don't know your gpios, (2) the gpio/irq control code is wrong. |
| 19:46.31 | dcordes | Zoolooc: did you try browsing the halibut defconfig with make menuconfig to investigate unneeded modules? |
| 19:46.59 | dcordes | cr2: so I just ask dumb: How do we find out gpios? |
| 19:47.06 | Zoolooc | cr2: yeah, you said that before, and that is what prevented me to even try |
| 19:47.43 | Zoolooc | dcordes: I had a look, yes, but I don't really know waht's needed and what not |
| 19:48.15 | dcordes | I bet they build loads of experimental hardware drivers |
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| 19:49.15 | cr2 | dcordes: you find out the gpio by tracing them in haret. |
| 19:49.36 | cr2 | and the gpio register layout is already documented in wiki. |
| 19:50.09 | dcordes | cr2: are there any instructions on tracing gpios in haret? I read a lot about it in this chan but have no idea how to do it. Any guides on this? |
| 19:50.13 | cr2 | what is still missing, is the code to setup/ set /clear a gpio, and handle the interrupts linked to this gpio. |
| 19:51.11 | cr2 | dcordes: i think it's a general procedure for all cpus. you just connect to haret and run 'wi N' where N is the number of seconds |
| 19:51.40 | dcordes | So the ram registers are dumped in N interval? |
| 19:51.47 | cr2 | then you just wait for something to happen (or just spam your terminal) or you are trying to create the hardware events yourself |
| 19:51.50 | Zoolooc | dcordes: did you do any of this on any other CPU? I didn't |
| 19:52.04 | cr2 | trying to correlate the visible changes with your actions. |
| 19:52.04 | dcordes | Zoolooc: no, never. |
| 19:52.14 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: now network works. The signal iz a bit we |
| 19:52.28 | kmARC_11 | ak now, but i will make further experiments with this |
| 19:52.43 | cr2 | dcordes: not dumped. thanks to Kevin2 this is a much more smart code now. |
| 19:52.50 | dcordes | cr2: So I try to get the machine do nothing and when I want do investigate-let's say wifi- I activate it and see the terminal output? |
| 19:52.53 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: now... How can i write the | - pipe - sign |
| 19:53.01 | cr2 | dcordes: 2 year ago it was just a busy loop. |
| 19:53.41 | cr2 | dcordes: yes, but i guess wifi may produce a hell of the hardware events itself. |
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| 19:53.58 | dcordes | ok I guess that exact procedure is too complicated for me to understand. So hook up telnet to the machine with haret, run wi N (what's a useful value for N?) and try to get the device busy with the functions we want to investigate? |
| 19:54.14 | cr2 | dcordes: is your host machine running linux ? |
| 19:54.18 | Zoolooc | cr2: sorry, I really do not understand jack, (not about cpu, registers and such, but how haret is supposed to work, or to "operate") |
| 19:54.20 | dcordes | yes of course |
| 19:54.25 | dcordes | no m$ here |
| 19:54.30 | kiozen | cr2: try latest repository, hope it works |
| 19:54.41 | cr2 | ok. do you have python installed ? |
| 19:54.44 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. |
| 19:54.48 | dcordes | I think so |
| 19:54.58 | dcordes | but kaiser is not here yet |
| 19:55.40 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:55.46 | Zoolooc | cr2: I'm on gentoo, have (or can emerge) lots of things and could actually try |
| 19:55.51 | cr2 | Zoolooc: do you run linux |
| 19:55.55 | Zoolooc | so, if I setup WIFI |
| 19:56.04 | Zoolooc | and run haret, can I telnet into haret? |
| 19:56.09 | cr2 | ok, so get python, and download the haret CVS |
| 19:56.30 | dcordes | Zoolooc: yes did you notice the listen button? this listens for ingoing telnet connections to kaiser |
| 19:56.35 | Zoolooc | I have python-2.5 |
| 19:56.38 | cr2 | there is a python tool in haret (console) to make life much easier for you. |
| 19:56.57 | Zoolooc | alright, will update my haret source |
| 19:57.05 | Zoolooc | but damned, I have no cegcc yet |
| 19:57.16 | Zoolooc | or don't I need that, only the python script? |
| 19:57.23 | dcordes | isn' |
| 19:57.40 | dcordes | sorry isn't there a haret binary repository on hh? |
| 19:57.55 | Zoolooc | I have that october 29th binary |
| 19:59.04 | cr2 | i can compile the latest. or you get the cegcc and compile yourself |
| 20:00.22 | cr2 | kiozen: wow :) |
| 20:00.29 | kiozen | works? |
| 20:00.48 | kiozen | maps tracks, waypoints ? |
| 20:00.58 | kiozen | screenshot |
| 20:01.05 | dcordes | so that py script does process the data arriving from haret? |
| 20:01.46 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
| 20:01.56 | cr2 | kiozen: need to disable DBG first. |
| 20:04.10 | cr2 | clicked on "download all", now waiting. |
| 20:05.18 | dcordes | Zoolooc: did you try to telnet? |
| 20:05.49 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, got the all the waypoints and tracks. |
| 20:06.04 | cr2 | kiozen: don't have the routes. |
| 20:06.05 | Zoolooc | dcordes: still having some wlan trouble rightnow, and have to download cegcc too |
| 20:06.15 | kiozen | I don't download routes |
| 20:06.20 | kiozen | just upload |
| 20:06.23 | cr2 | kiozen: maps ? |
| 20:06.42 | kiozen | upload complete map |
| 20:06.48 | Zoolooc | dcordes: ok, wlan is ok now |
| 20:06.53 | kiozen | download just the names to select them |
| 20:07.03 | cr2 | kiozen: you only upload user map ? |
| 20:07.05 | dcordes | great. Zoolooc I think you can also telnet via usbnet |
| 20:07.18 | dcordes | Although I did not manage it with the prophet |
| 20:07.36 | kiozen | no, all maps, even the locked ones |
| 20:07.42 | goxboxlive | kmARC_11: AFAIR [Fn]+[1] |
| 20:07.55 | Zoolooc | with usb, I can only manage to connect via ppp with the ipaq driver, rndis-host is not working for me |
| 20:08.30 | kmARC_11 | goxboxlive: thx, now it's also working |
| 20:08.31 | cr2 | kiozen: it's thinking now, but nothing happens. |
| 20:08.57 | kiozen | thinking about what? |
| 20:09.28 | kiozen | on some devices the usb bus will block after transfer |
| 20:09.33 | cr2 | kiozen: no, nothing happens. i'm in the map menu. |
| 20:09.59 | kiozen | and doing what? |
| 20:10.02 | cr2 | nothing is shown, i have the us basemap and a user map on the microSD. |
| 20:10.14 | cr2 | clocked download. |
| 20:10.19 | cr2 | s/clo/cli/ |
| 20:10.23 | dcordes | Zoolooc: oh so I guess I had that same problem when tryting to connect usb with kaiser |
| 20:10.39 | kiozen | ah, the map must be imported |
| 20:10.59 | cr2 | kiozen: File->import map ? |
| 20:11.04 | kiozen | yes |
| 20:11.17 | kiozen | you need a map set for that |
| 20:11.21 | kiozen | with tdb file |
| 20:11.41 | cr2 | i think it's more logical to follow the same path as with wpt/tracks |
| 20:11.42 | kiozen | and the map has to be uploaded by QLandkarte. |
| 20:11.56 | cr2 | i don't have cityselect/mg. |
| 20:12.00 | cr2 | well, i have it |
| 20:12.00 | Zoolooc | dcordes: well, you also have to switch the moe from WM6 ("Advanced network features" checked under "USB to PC connection" means network mode, unchecked means serial mode, so I learned on #synce) |
| 20:12.05 | kiozen | but maps are quite different |
| 20:12.07 | cr2 | but not on the garmin. |
| 20:12.18 | Zoolooc | dcordes: nevertheless, network mode doen't work for me |
| 20:12.54 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, i'm not using mapsource for upload/download of maps too, so no such experience here. |
| 20:13.38 | kiozen | It's just the way the map names are stored in the lookup table of the gmapsupp file |
| 20:13.45 | Zoolooc | downloading cegcc source now... |
| 20:13.45 | cr2 | kiozen: i've just put a custom map on the microSD, and inserted it into the device. |
| 20:13.52 | dcordes | Zoolooc: networking in windows always has been wierdy |
| 20:14.11 | dcordes | you guys use open street map? |
| 20:14.24 | kiozen | ok, that gives me no chnace to find it in QLandkarte |
| 20:14.36 | kiozen | maps are a beast |
| 20:14.37 | cr2 | kiozen: if i'll upload the map, will i kill the already installed map ? |
| 20:14.46 | kiozen | yes definetly |
| 20:15.00 | cr2 | dcordes: not only OSM. |
| 20:15.23 | cr2 | kiozen: and you don't touch the basemap i guess :) |
| 20:15.25 | dcordes | I will participate in OSM when I have the kaiser and some time |
| 20:15.41 | kiozen | no one is interested in the basemap |
| 20:15.57 | kiozen | I would mind if mine has the basmap of Mars |
| 20:16.13 | kiozen | s/would/wouldn't |
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| 20:16.26 | cr2 | kiozen: it may save power by not using microSD |
| 20:16.44 | kiozen | :) 13 hours are enought |
| 20:16.57 | cr2 | ok, that's true. |
| 20:17.26 | cr2 | but butting the basemap from OSM is just cool :) |
| 20:17.28 | kiozen | you can bash Garmin for many things, but not on power consumtion |
| 20:17.41 | cr2 | agreed. |
| 20:17.55 | dcordes | cr2: to pick up powersaving: You were speaking of using a part of the ram as rom when you have enough ram (eg in case of kaiser you have 128m). Would that also save power? |
| 20:18.03 | kiozen | It's funny many users are concerned about the basemap. |
| 20:18.12 | kiozen | but none is using it |
| 20:21.40 | cr2 | kiozen: it's the only thing you will see if the SD card is broken, or you have an older device. |
| 20:22.39 | kiozen | You might see it but it won't be of a real help. Especially not for hiking. That's why I carry a paper map |
| 20:22.45 | cr2 | dcordes: it's an interesting question, we may run a test. |
| 20:24.10 | cr2 | kiozen: i#d like to get rid of the useless waypoints like 'garmin taiwan' and the state borders in Oceania, and replace it by something more useful, like a better map of Europe. |
| 20:24.38 | cr2 | and it's not a rocket science to do it :) |
| 20:24.44 | dcordes | cr2: I'm ready for all kinds of testing when we got to a point where that's possible on kaiser |
| 20:25.29 | cr2 | dcordes: we only need to handle the irqs and LCD. then we can boot off the ramdisk. |
| 20:26.10 | kiozen | no it's no rocket science. But has a certain legal aftetaste. |
| 20:26.10 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:27.16 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, i'm not advocating it's inclusion in qlandkarte. |
| 20:28.08 | kiozen | yes, I would love to, same as the unlock stuff, but lawers are too expensive |
| 20:28.11 | cr2 | ok, back to the EGPIO. |
| 20:28.31 | cr2 | kiozen: unlock is irrelevant. |
| 20:29.00 | dcordes | I would really like to understand the whole irq/gpio thing in detail. Somebody able to suggest any kind of comprehensive documentation on the topic? |
| 20:29.10 | kiozen | au contraire, most of my "fan" mail concernes that topic :) |
| 20:29.13 | cr2 | the true goal is to run OSM maps with routing. |
| 20:29.34 | BabelO | cr2: about power saving there is some script to run on linux laptop too setup correctlyhdd access and cache or sleep time. the result is same as for wince, when you receive a sms and your are low battery you can loose it, or other change |
| 20:29.45 | cr2 | kiozen: they are simply badly informed ;-) |
| 20:30.18 | kiozen | no they don't speak russian |
| 20:31.30 | cr2 | BabelO: it happened on my a780 |
| 20:32.26 | cr2 | kiozen: the russians don't provide a windows gui too. |
| 20:32.38 | kiozen | lol |
| 20:32.46 | BabelO | cr2: i can try those settings on ba to know with / without the gain |
| 20:33.01 | cr2 | kiozen: well, it's actually not completely true :) |
| 20:33.36 | kiozen | but the mellon of QLandkarte is nicer |
| 20:34.33 | cr2 | gpsmapedit was a tool of choice but very little people know about it. |
| 20:34.38 | cr2 | yes, that's true. |
| 20:36.28 | cr2 | dcordes: only for the other CPUs. PXA27x has a 1300 pages manual :) |
| 20:39.14 | dcordes | I guess I will try something like wikipedia for basic comrpehension of terms first ^^ |
| 20:42.31 | dcordes | Zoolooc: did you receive my querry? |
| 20:47.27 | kiozen | cr2: what is the difference between BrushColor and Color? |
| 20:50.57 | dcordes | Does somebody know if I can still access the contact data saved on my SIM after its contract ended? |
| 20:51.38 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. i forgot. also the brush pixmap is missing. |
| 20:52.07 | cr2 | dcordes: some providers ask for the card to be returned. |
| 20:52.18 | dcordes | they won't get it bwahaha |
| 20:52.27 | cr2 | dcordes: o2 does not. |
| 20:52.34 | dcordes | eplus in my case |
| 20:52.39 | dcordes | fscked up E netz |
| 20:52.58 | cr2 | ok in big cities. |
| 20:54.21 | dcordes | Personal told me there were 8 base stations in range of my place. Stil signal is of worst quality |
| 20:56.13 | cr2 | kiozen: color was probably for the border. |
| 20:57.06 | kiozen | ok, no borders, takes too much time |
| 20:59.16 | cr2 | agreed. |
| 21:05.53 | Zoolooc | dcordes: sorry, was at the tv with my wife... I got the query, let me look for the git call with path and stuff. Btw, I had no problem reading my contacts from my 8 years old and expired T-Mobile SIM in the Kaiser and moving them over to the outlook contacts |
| 21:06.23 | dcordes | ah great - that's what I was fixing to do |
| 21:06.46 | Zoolooc | cegcc build finished |
| 21:07.16 | dcordes | I fetched the latest snapshot tarball for now but would be good to know how to clone it the right way |
| 21:08.56 | Zoolooc | damned, I don't have it in the history anymore, but I'll figure out |
| 21:16.13 | Zoolooc | dcordes: git clone git://git.android.com/linux-msm |
| 21:16.20 | Zoolooc | dcordes for initial cloning |
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| 21:51.00 | dcordes | Zoolooc: do I have to spec target arch when I run menuconfig inside the source? |
| 21:51.30 | Zoolooc | yes, just a sec |
| 21:52.51 | dcordes | make ARCH=arm menuconfig? Or ist it something different for msm |
| 21:53.38 | Zoolooc | ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- make menuconfig |
| 21:54.36 | dcordes | great, thanks |
| 21:54.41 | Zoolooc | maybe CROSS_COMPILE is only needed when building, but I have it all wrapped in a gentoo-specific emerge wrapper script |
| 21:57.20 | dcordes | Zoolooc: are you sure about arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- with the - at the ending? |
| 21:58.00 | Zoolooc | yes, anyway, your toolchain prefix may look different |
| 21:58.29 | Zoolooc | but all those tools from the toolchain are prefixed like that, with the '-' |
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| 22:26.31 | dcordes | somebody has defconfig of some newer htc phone? |
| 22:26.47 | dcordes | so I can compare hailbut defconf with othre phone specific defconf |
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| 22:42.18 | dcordes | Zoolooc: do I get the default halibut conf after initial clone? I'm a bit confused because in menuconfig there is some x86 selected as cpu |
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| 23:47.19 | Zoolooc_ | cr2: ping |
| 23:59.34 | dcordes | Zoolooc_: hey you hooked up with new compiled haret? |