| 00:35.06 | BabelO | good night |
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| 01:19.42 | mrcucumber | Is the HTC Kasier being actively developed for? |
| 01:31.05 | PITABoy | kindof |
| 01:31.38 | PITABoy | we me and someone else are developing for the titan which is simular |
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| 01:58.43 | mrcucumber | Does the Titan have another name? |
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| 02:01.42 | mxktmdude | titan/mogul i believe |
| 02:27.19 | PITABoy | yes |
| 02:27.21 | PITABoy | mogul |
| 02:27.24 | PITABoy | P4000 |
| 02:27.30 | PITABoy | PPC6800 |
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| 04:39.49 | PITABoy | cr2_ |
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| 07:34.08 | manveru | heya... since this question is very OT, please feel free to forward me to a better place, but how/where do i get java for a HTC TyTN (wm5) |
| 07:36.02 | PITABoy | you might want to check forum.xda-developers.com |
| 07:36.28 | PITABoy | they might even have roms to upgrade your phone to wm6 |
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| 07:40.12 | manveru | hmh |
| 07:40.44 | kiozen | cr2_: the cradle has an audio jack |
| 07:40.44 | PITABoy | did you find anything |
| 07:40.53 | manveru | well, i'd rather just get the new one, it's called X02HT here... guess they call it TyTNII |
| 07:41.09 | PITABoy | oh |
| 07:41.10 | manveru | not yet, but there are many search-results |
| 07:41.19 | manveru | just want to try out opera mini :) |
| 07:42.37 | PITABoy | oh |
| 07:46.06 | mxktmdude | we all wish it was that easy |
| 07:46.38 | manveru | ^^ |
| 08:12.00 | PITABoy | swetland what good is msm or msm7x00A if no devices use msm7200A |
| 08:12.34 | PITABoy | is any of the hardware the same besides the core processor |
| 08:12.56 | PITABoy | we still need to rewrite all of the gpios right |
| 08:14.37 | swetland | 7200 and 7200A are very similar. gpios are going to be different from device to device, more often than not |
| 08:15.17 | PITABoy | ok |
| 08:15.41 | PITABoy | I have a 7500 is there any hope without completly rewriting your patches |
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| 08:16.37 | swetland | the whole platform is a work in progress and is more likely to ship on future devices than devices in the field now, so that's our focus. but obviously there are people interested in trying to get the kernel stuff to work on existing hardware and while I'm not here to help do that, I'm happy to avoid needless roadblocks |
| 08:16.51 | swetland | especially since you may fix bugs on older chipsets and want to submit patches ^^ |
| 08:17.27 | PITABoy | ok |
| 08:18.00 | PITABoy | So the chip that you are working with is an alpha of Qualcomms next chip |
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| 09:28.40 | kiozen | Hi BabelO |
| 09:32.51 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 09:33.10 | kiozen | compiling qtopia failed :p |
| 09:33.30 | kiozen | htcaudioplugin.cpp is unhappy |
| 09:33.31 | BabelO | kiozen: where ? |
| 09:33.49 | BabelO | really ? i send you my sources |
| 09:33.56 | kiozen | moc file screwes up |
| 09:34.10 | kiozen | guess i have to setup the audio system properly |
| 09:35.21 | BabelO | kiozen: ah, maybe because i send you my tree without cleaning it |
| 09:35.58 | BabelO | kiozen: so you use qtopia.net angstrom compiler ? |
| 09:36.05 | kiozen | yes |
| 09:36.16 | BabelO | audio plugin is very basic actually |
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| 09:39.09 | kiozen_ | BabelO: Iam not sure about my configure script http://pastebin.ca/770461 |
| 09:39.11 | BabelO | kiozen_: when you build qtopia, there is some hint, if you look at configure file in device directory, i ve added few line at bottom to skip qt recompiling each time you change config of qtopia |
| 09:40.01 | BabelO | kiozen_: you have to remove complete line -eval and -helix i don't think comment are allowed |
| 09:40.16 | kiozen_ | ok let's try |
| 09:41.57 | kiozen | At least this makes my office cosy and warm ... |
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| 09:54.26 | BabelO | ~x ru en не знаю, как бы сюда органично вставить про количество проектов |
| 09:54.42 | BabelO | :( |
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| 10:29.58 | kiozen | Babel0: Qtopia has been built :) |
| 10:30.14 | kiozen | My dual core is smoking |
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| 10:33.48 | BabelO | lol, you are lucky with a dual core ;) |
| 10:34.02 | BabelO | kiozen: take more time for me |
| 10:34.35 | kiozen | :) compiling is the only task you really benefit from it |
| 10:34.50 | kiozen | else it is a waste of electrons |
| 10:35.17 | kiozen | But luckily there are enought electrons |
| 10:49.25 | BabelO | kiozen: maybe you can optimise some bad code i have done for htcbutton plugin ;) |
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| 10:51.24 | kiozen | BabelO: let's see, first I have to get this big blob of software fly.. but buttons are important thus chances are good |
| 10:51.38 | cr2_ | morning :) |
| 10:51.55 | cr2_ | BabelO: i've looked yesterday night at the artemis CPLD |
| 10:52.39 | cr2_ | the entries have a different meaning to n560, but i know which one. |
| 10:53.08 | cr2_ | but in general, the wifi is done in the same way and on n560 |
| 10:53.26 | cr2_ | the cross-research of the devices is very helpful. |
| 10:54.19 | cr2_ | now there are 4 devices that need such CPLD driver |
| 10:54.42 | cr2_ | maybe pH5 comes to help, or i'll eventually do it myself. |
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| 12:02.46 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 12:03.21 | dcordes_ | hi all |
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| 12:14.23 | Nandex | hi |
| 12:16.12 | dcordes | hi Nandex |
| 12:17.07 | Nandex | hi, i'll try to install linux on htc |
| 12:17.34 | Nandex | i saw this : http://rafago.unex.es |
| 12:19.07 | cr2_ | BabelO: don't be lazy, let's fill the omap850 and cpld gpio tables for artemis |
| 12:19.08 | dcordes | Nandex: which htc do you have? |
| 12:21.19 | dcordes | the guy in the video there boots some old angstrom with opie desktop |
| 12:23.01 | Nandex | qtek s200 |
| 12:33.42 | cr2_ | Nandex: prophet ? |
| 12:34.57 | cr2_ | a nice bug in .24-rc2 |
| 12:35.00 | cr2_ | - src_buf = sg_virt(dst); |
| 12:35.01 | cr2_ | + src_buf = sg_virt(src); |
| 12:36.31 | cr2_ | this may be helpful too |
| 12:36.33 | cr2_ | drivers/net/wireless/libertas/if_sdio.h |
| 12:36.35 | cr2_ | drivers/net/wireless/libertas/if_sdio.c |
| 12:36.37 | Nandex | yes, prophet |
| 12:40.13 | cr2_ | Nandex: afair there are some problems with it. can you dump the first megabyte of ram on it ? |
| 12:43.46 | Nandex | one minute |
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| 12:46.27 | BabelO | cr2_: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ArtemisGPIO |
| 12:46.37 | BabelO | cr2_: i add some gpios found with haret |
| 12:46.47 | BabelO | cr2_: but not agrre on some |
| 12:47.22 | cr2_ | with typhoon or with haret ? |
| 12:48.03 | cr2_ | the set_cpld is (bank,mask,bic=0/orr=1) |
| 12:48.32 | cr2_ | bank<8, mask is always 1 bit. at least those that i've seen. |
| 12:48.57 | BabelO | cr2_: with haret on artemis, like touchscreen , i m sure about gpio 76 |
| 12:49.28 | cr2_ | ok, then we need to check it. |
| 12:49.40 | cr2_ | BabelO: btw, there are also 2bits for the LCD type |
| 12:50.03 | cr2_ | and some LCDs need this spi-type init sequence like the ba 0x6 |
| 12:50.13 | cr2_ | maybe we should support it after all ;) |
| 12:50.23 | BabelO | cr2_: for the 2 bit i m agrre i ve it somewhere ;) |
| 12:50.46 | cr2_ | compare with typhoon page |
| 12:51.21 | cr2_ | maybe it's a good idea to contact Vivien about the progress |
| 12:52.29 | cr2_ | gpio 69 and 70 here http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/doc.html |
| 12:56.59 | BabelO | cr2_: i think i understand where cpld is located on artemis 0xb810040X |
| 12:57.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: must be somewhere in the logs. |
| 12:58.33 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ArtemisMemoryMap |
| 12:59.12 | cr2_ | the logs must have the math how i've calculated it. |
| 13:00.35 | cr2_ | BabelO: yes, (virt)0xb8100400=(phys)0x04000400 |
| 13:02.04 | BabelO | cr2_: b810040aX this adress is trigerred often when switch on/off wifi , bt , gps and phone module, so i can hope it is cpld gpio control ;) |
| 13:02.50 | BabelO | cr2_: what do you say few days ago about spi port ? |
| 13:02.56 | cr2_ | BabelO: it is. there are 7(8) 16bit gpio banks like on other phones. |
| 13:03.33 | cr2_ | BabelO: i'll create a wiki page with the SPI registers. they are not the same as on the documented OMAP5912 CPU. |
| 13:03.49 | cr2_ | BabelO: do you know other OMAP SPI implementation ? |
| 13:04.09 | cr2_ | anyway, it's not a very difficult protocol there. |
| 13:04.15 | BabelO | cr2_: no, just swetland omap patch |
| 13:04.21 | cr2_ | used for the omap850 touchscreen. |
| 13:04.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: but you still can't trace it ? |
| 13:05.12 | BabelO | cr2_: how can i fill cpld wiki according to haret trace ? what is 402 406 40a 40c at b810040X ? |
| 13:05.15 | cr2_ | BabelO: can you make 'dump mmu' ? |
| 13:05.25 | cr2_ | the banks. |
| 13:05.31 | BabelO | i already post it ;) i ll look |
| 13:06.03 | cr2_ | look for the hermes/athena/n560 data |
| 13:06.26 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_CPLD |
| 13:07.44 | BabelO | cr2_: yes but i have for example : |
| 13:07.45 | cr2_ | the cpld gpio state is cached in SRAM |
| 13:07.45 | BabelO | 002.148 07877cdc: strh r1, [r3] # a=b810040c v=00000006 |
| 13:07.45 | BabelO | 002.148 0797a738: strh r1, [r3] # a=b8100402 v=00000000 |
| 13:07.45 | BabelO | 002.148 0797a738: strh r1, [r3] # a=b8100406 v=00000000 |
| 13:07.46 | BabelO | 002.148 0797a738: strh r1, [r3] # a=b8100402 v=00000002 |
| 13:07.46 | BabelO | 002.148 0797a738: strh r1, [r3] # a=b8100406 v=00000000 |
| 13:07.47 | BabelO | 002.148 0797a738: strh r1, [r3] # a=b8100402 v=00000002 |
| 13:07.49 | BabelO | 002.148 0797a738: strh r1, [r3] # a=b8100406 v=00000000 |
| 13:08.27 | BabelO | it is for gps on state |
| 13:08.27 | cr2_ | i need to check. |
| 13:08.39 | cr2_ | looks like setting 3 bits |
| 13:09.03 | cr2_ | the first one is a bit strange, because it has 2 bits set. |
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| 13:10.02 | cr2_ | BabelO: it'll be easy to compare with the .asm |
| 13:10.09 | cr2_ | bbl |
| 13:11.07 | BabelO | cr2_: ok, fyi my memory map http://pastebin.ca/770604 |
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| 15:56.34 | kiozen | BabelO: you are here? |
| 15:56.47 | BabelO | yes |
| 15:57.05 | kiozen | I am a little bit undecided waht to do with the qtopia image |
| 15:57.28 | kiozen | I gues I should copy it to /opt/Qtopia on my PC |
| 15:57.39 | kiozen | for cross compiling |
| 15:58.01 | BabelO | kiozen: what to do , once compile is finished, you make install IMAGE=<where is your opt/Qtopia directory image> |
| 15:58.04 | kiozen | And I wonder what part has to go on the SD |
| 15:58.29 | BabelO | be carefull qtopia make install clear destination path for you :) |
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| 16:00.41 | BabelO | kiozen: is it ok ? |
| 16:01.10 | kiozen | hm, looks like I have to move the image folder manually to /opt/image |
| 16:01.17 | kiozen | hm, looks like I have to move the image folder manually to /opt/Qtopia |
| 16:01.19 | BabelO | kiozen: no |
| 16:01.42 | kiozen | but it tells me so after make install |
| 16:02.15 | BabelO | kiozen: just make install IMAGE=/mnt/opt/Qtopia if your image is uncompressed in /mnt and you created folder opt/qtopia |
| 16:02.44 | kiozen | ok .. i try .. |
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| 16:07.12 | kiozen_ | BabelO: that is what I get when I call make IMAGE=/opt/Qtopia http://pastebin.ca/770772 |
| 16:08.38 | BabelO | kiozen_ you miss something it is |
| 16:08.43 | kiozen_ | BabelO: and that one after I call make install http://pastebin.ca/770777 |
| 16:09.03 | BabelO | make install IMAGE=/mnt/opt/Qtopia |
| 16:10.03 | BabelO | be carefull with IMAGE path it must point to a created folder and empty ;) |
| 16:10.29 | kiozen | stupid me :) thanks for the eyeopener |
| 16:10.50 | BabelO | kiozen: that's not already the night ;) |
| 16:11.29 | kiozen | hehe, had some crazy struggle with cmake and windows this afternoon |
| 16:11.34 | kiozen | that weares off |
| 16:13.43 | kiozen | BabelO: what part is needed for crosscompiling. I would say the same and QTDIR has to point to it, right? |
| 16:14.00 | BabelO | kiozen: what you want to do ? |
| 16:14.08 | BabelO | kiozen: compile an application for qtopia ? |
| 16:14.31 | kiozen | if I want to compile a qtopia app I need cross compilation |
| 16:14.38 | kiozen | yes |
| 16:14.40 | BabelO | ok so easy |
| 16:17.35 | BabelO | just export PATH=$PATH:$QTDIR/depot/bin |
| 16:18.12 | BabelO | then add qtopia_project(qtopia app) to your .pro file |
| 16:18.26 | BabelO | and then to finish qtopiamake <your pro file> |
| 16:18.29 | BabelO | and make |
| 16:20.09 | kiozen | Ok, the build dir is the tools dir for crosscompilation. |
| 16:20.14 | BabelO | else there is another solution using qmake, it is a long line you can get in Makefile.target files |
| 16:20.20 | BabelO | kiozen: yes |
| 16:20.31 | BabelO | kiozen: it use defined mkspec for cross compile |
| 16:20.43 | kiozen | Ok, Thanks BabelO, have to collect my son, bbl... |
| 16:20.49 | BabelO | bbl |
| 16:22.04 | BabelO | go go go :) |
| 16:22.05 | BabelO | http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/developers.html |
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| 16:23.45 | cr2 | BabelO: developers,developers,developers :) |
| 16:29.15 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i m just looking for information about Dalvik virtual machine |
| 16:40.07 | cr2 | Not compatible with Gnu Compiler for Java (gcj) |
| 16:47.33 | cr2 | lol |
| 16:47.38 | cr2 | Until the SDK is released under an open source |
| 16:47.38 | cr2 | license, you may not extract the source code or create a derivative work of |
| 16:47.38 | cr2 | the SDK. |
| 16:48.52 | BabelO | yes and need v2.0 |
| 16:48.55 | BabelO | grhhh |
| 16:48.56 | cr2 | BabelO: b3800 is it i2c ? |
| 16:49.14 | BabelO | yes from memory :) |
| 16:50.23 | cr2 | ok. so prophet also has "i2c" cpld |
| 16:51.48 | cr2 | wizard has mdoc ? |
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| 16:53.09 | cr2 | yees. |
| 16:59.01 | cr2 | BabelO: artemis is the only sane omap850 device ;) |
| 16:59.35 | cr2 | BabelO: wizard has i2c cpld. |
| 17:00.18 | cr2 | so if pH5 will support it on herald, others will benefit too. |
| 17:04.06 | BabelO | cr2: but on artemis i2c from omap cpu seem to be used only for camera |
| 17:17.02 | cr2 | sound is on-cpu ? |
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| 17:26.15 | BabelO | cr2: i know nothing about sound... that why i want a inside picture of artemis |
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| 18:53.47 | Shadowmite | bleh |
| 18:53.55 | cr2 | BabelO: these google people are insane |
| 18:54.00 | cr2 | hi Shadowmite |
| 18:54.03 | Shadowmite | heya |
| 18:54.16 | Shadowmite | how goes it in here these days? |
| 18:54.35 | cr2 | BabelO: 25+275 k$ for a java app ;) i'll reject :) |
| 18:55.02 | cr2 | Shadowmite: booted the gui on treo750 |
| 18:55.16 | Shadowmite | awesome |
| 18:55.32 | cr2 | treo750 is hermes from palm |
| 18:55.33 | Shadowmite | wonder how portable that would be to the 700wx |
| 18:55.48 | Shadowmite | hermes? thought it was cheetah |
| 18:56.03 | cr2 | yes, but it's very close to hermes in the hw design |
| 18:56.07 | Shadowmite | ah |
| 18:56.12 | Shadowmite | sammy cpu? |
| 18:56.25 | cr2 | cpu,atiw2284, etc. |
| 18:56.47 | cr2 | and wince. |
| 18:57.40 | cr2 | do you know what's inside 700wx ? |
| 18:58.56 | cr2 | wince too. |
| 19:03.30 | cr2 | pxa cpu, not the s3c2442 |
| 19:05.20 | cr2 | pxafb, no ati. |
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| 19:30.54 | kiozen | cr2: you are here? |
| 19:31.51 | PITABoy | what is the news |
| 19:32.07 | kiozen | crash boom bang :) |
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| 19:32.28 | PITABoy | what |
| 19:33.01 | kiozen | qpe crashes while accessing /sys/class/backlight/ |
| 19:33.10 | PITABoy | oh |
| 19:33.15 | kiozen | don't have a f... clue why |
| 19:33.16 | PITABoy | what phone |
| 19:33.30 | kiozen | no phone a pda , loox n560 |
| 19:33.38 | PITABoy | oh |
| 19:37.07 | PITABoy | does htc make that? |
| 19:38.08 | kiozen | make what? |
| 19:38.57 | PITABoy | the loox n560 |
| 19:39.38 | kiozen | basically it's the same as some phones, just without the phone, but with a gps :) |
| 19:40.21 | kiozen | and we all share the need of a decent moving map app |
| 19:48.07 | cr2 | kiozen: do you have /sys/class/backlight ? |
| 19:48.26 | kiozen | yes |
| 19:49.28 | kiozen | http://pastebin.ca/771061 |
| 19:49.38 | kiozen | a strace |
| 19:50.35 | kiozen | cr2: I had the same problem with BabelO's image |
| 19:50.51 | kiozen | seems to be something basic :) |
| 19:51.59 | kiozen | there is nothing in /sys/class/backlight |
| 19:52.12 | kiozen | what should be in there ? |
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| 19:53.08 | cr2 | yes, there should be entries there. |
| 19:53.19 | cr2 | hmm, do you have a backlight driver ... |
| 19:53.41 | kiozen | lsmod | grep back |
| 19:53.47 | kiozen | shows nothing |
| 19:53.51 | PITABoy | cr2_ what devices do you have |
| 19:54.23 | pH5 | why does that process segfault if /sys/class/backlight is empty? |
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| 19:54.26 | cr2 | kiozen: no, you don't have the backlight driver yet. |
| 19:54.27 | PITABoy | also has anyone made progress getting the kernel to boot on a titan |
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| 19:54.33 | cr2 | pH5: buggy software. |
| 19:54.46 | cr2 | pH5: need your help with the CPLD. |
| 19:55.27 | cr2 | pH5: can you replace the egpio on hx4700 with Kevin's driver ? i'd use it as a template then. |
| 19:55.49 | kiozen | ok cr2 looks like I have to wait with qtopia for the kernel |
| 19:56.09 | cr2 | kiozen: it's the only possibility to use qt4. |
| 19:56.42 | pH5 | cr2: I could, but I'm not sure it would make sense. For hx4700 Kevin's driver is a bit overkill because there are no IRQs on that CPLD. |
| 19:56.44 | cr2 | kiozen: i have an idea. i'll add the stub backlight driver. |
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| 19:57.25 | kiozen | ok, I amuse my self in setting up an IDE for crosscompiling... |
| 19:57.39 | cr2 | pH5: ok, but then it's necessary to create a custom driver for it. |
| 19:57.58 | pH5 | cr2: htc-egpio-lite :) |
| 19:58.13 | cr2 | pH5: the artemis and n560 also have such CPLDs without irq. |
| 19:58.31 | cr2 | yes. will be really nice to have such pure gpio extender. |
| 19:59.06 | cr2 | pH5: have you seen my info in the logs ? wiazrd and prophet also use weird i2c gpio ;-) |
| 19:59.15 | pH5 | yes, that should be done. |
| 20:00.00 | pH5 | cr2: no, I didn't see that. I can't say I'm completely surprised :) |
| 20:00.38 | cr2 | but artemis is using a normal mmaped cpld. |
| 20:01.00 | cr2 | btw, they all share mmc with wifi sdio. |
| 20:01.04 | cr2 | also the n560 |
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| 20:01.31 | cr2 | so if you are writing to the SD card over wifi then you have a problem. |
| 20:02.00 | pH5 | cheap |
| 20:02.01 | cr2 | i'm not even sure it's possible with the current code. |
| 20:02.12 | cr2 | omap850 is cheap. |
| 20:03.16 | cr2 | i don't understand why did they do it. |
| 20:03.39 | cr2 | they had acx100 mmaped and as a pcmcia device. |
| 20:04.00 | cr2 | now they switched to sdio for 54mbit. |
| 20:04.01 | pH5 | cr2: maybe omap850 doesn't have enough cs memory space? |
| 20:04.31 | cr2 | 0x04000000 is unused |
| 20:04.48 | pH5 | I thought 0x040 are the debug uarts |
| 20:05.24 | cr2 | 0xfff00000 ? |
| 20:06.19 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ArtemisMemoryMap |
| 20:06.25 | cr2 | here it's used for the CPLD. |
| 20:07.26 | cr2 | there is also 0x08000000 for i don't know what. |
| 20:07.37 | pH5 | where is the doc mapped? |
| 20:07.51 | cr2 | yes, it's a good idea. |
| 20:08.04 | cr2 | if you boot from it,.... |
| 20:08.30 | cr2 | good question. omap5912 docs say you can boot from 0x08000000 too |
| 20:08.50 | cr2 | does herald have mdoc ? |
| 20:09.00 | cr2 | wizard may have g3 or g4. |
| 20:09.06 | pH5 | herald has g4 or h3 |
| 20:09.18 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:09.26 | cr2 | but it's most probably at 0x0 |
| 20:09.44 | pH5 | right |
| 20:11.53 | cr2 | ok, so if you'll create the cpld driver that'll be great. i'll update the universal too, and all the rest. also need it for the mmcsd on n560. |
| 20:12.27 | cr2 | i can see one sdio wifi driver in the -24-rc2. |
| 20:12.32 | pH5 | cr2: how configurable does it have to be? |
| 20:12.40 | pH5 | hx4700 only has one 16bit register |
| 20:12.41 | cr2 | time to switch ;) |
| 20:12.43 | pH5 | write-only |
| 20:12.51 | cr2 | address and number of banks. |
| 20:13.04 | cr2 | base address and number of 16bit banks. |
| 20:13.09 | cr2 | that'll cover all. |
| 20:13.14 | pH5 | great, no 32bit access? |
| 20:13.19 | cr2 | use a cached version like wince. |
| 20:13.22 | pH5 | no packed/32bit aligned stuff? |
| 20:13.23 | cr2 | no. |
| 20:13.28 | cr2 | no |
| 20:13.43 | pH5 | ok, that should be easy :) |
| 20:13.57 | cr2 | alpine is weird, but we don't have anybody with it :) |
| 20:14.16 | pH5 | alpine is the cdma blueangel? |
| 20:14.35 | cr2 | alpine is blueangel-like magician+ :) |
| 20:14.45 | pH5 | oh :) |
| 20:15.09 | cr2 | it looks like blueangel, but is close to magician internally. |
| 20:15.34 | cr2 | pxa272, pxafb, and so on. |
| 20:35.52 | mxktmdude | good day everyone |
| 20:46.05 | cr2 | mxktmdude: do you have the kaiser ? |
| 20:46.29 | mxktmdude | no i dont, only the titan |
| 20:46.43 | cr2 | ok, does not matter actually. |
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| 20:47.11 | cr2 | can you connect to haret over telnet ? |
| 20:47.42 | cr2 | from a linux host with python. |
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| 21:08.19 | pH5 | cr2: I'm lazy, I'll port hx4700 to htc-egpio. we can still wrap the irq part in #ifdef CONFIG_HTC_EGPIO_IRQ_SUPPORT if there are concerns about bloat. |
| 21:15.25 | cr2 | ok, i'll be quite happy about it. |
| 21:16.02 | cr2 | common driver is better than many local hacks. even if they are a bit faster. |
| 21:16.31 | dcordes | Hey peeps. Did you get your hands on android sdk yet? |
| 21:16.46 | pH5 | It's done already. I just have to compile and test. |
| 21:16.54 | pH5 | yay for reusable drivers. |
| 21:17.11 | cr2 | dcordes: java sucks :) |
| 21:17.14 | cr2 | pH5: great. |
| 21:17.18 | dcordes | java? |
| 21:17.29 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:18.37 | cr2 | i guess this is motorola pushing its agenda. |
| 21:19.34 | dcordes | Android runs a VM? |
| 21:20.25 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:21.18 | dcordes | cr2, what for? |
| 21:22.27 | cr2 | security. |
| 21:22.50 | cr2 | you will not be able to damage your phone or the network. |
| 21:23.22 | cr2 | yes, and you'll not steal the ringtones ;-) |
| 21:23.27 | dcordes | so that VM puts the system into some kind of restrictions? |
| 21:23.29 | dcordes | haha |
| 21:23.50 | cr2 | i think so. |
| 21:24.16 | swetland | we don't rely on the vm for security at that level |
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| 21:24.27 | swetland | each app runs its own vm instance in its own process |
| 21:24.50 | swetland | security is enforced a the linux process boundary level |
| 21:25.39 | dcordes | swetland, but what's the purpose of vms then? |
| 21:26.28 | swetland | java is a language that many are familiar with and like. there are good tools for it. check out the debugging environment in the sdk sometime. etc, etc |
| 21:27.04 | swetland | security is the only purpose for vm environments (though it is a popular one) |
| 21:27.08 | swetland | s/is/isn't/ |
| 21:27.58 | swetland | that is hilarious. I've used sed exprs to fix typos forever on irc, but never had a bot that reacted to it around ^^ |
| 21:28.33 | pH5 | ~hail TimRiker |
| 21:28.33 | apt | ACTION bows down to TimRiker and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 21:29.24 | pH5 | swetland: nice to see you watching #htc-linux, btw |
| 21:29.31 | swetland | fun to watch |
| 21:29.55 | dcordes | swetland, nice to see you guys working on msm7x00 |
| 21:30.33 | swetland | wish I could participate. this kind of hacking is a lot of fun, but contributing to the reverse engineering of partner companies' hardware would be kinda iffy |
| 21:35.40 | dcordes | If I get things right you participate indirectly with msm development :) |
| 21:36.31 | cr2 | swetland: lol |
| 21:38.16 | pH5 | it's my biggest gadget, but I always manage to hide it somewhere. |
| 21:38.59 | cr2 | pH5: i use athena, it's impossible to lose it. |
| 21:40.10 | cr2 | evil ati has changed the register bitmasks again. hehe. i'm forced to save and write the full 32bit regs without any decoding. ugly. |
| 21:41.05 | cr2 | guessing the mask from .asm access patterns will take too much time... |
| 21:41.45 | pH5 | cr2: you need smarter pattern recognition in the disassembler :) |
| 21:42.11 | cr2 | i can see in the w100fb driver that they did it already in the w100 -> w32x0 transition. |
| 21:42.57 | cr2 | well, if the ms c++ compiler does not optimize the macros too much, then it may be possible. |
| 21:43.55 | cr2 | it's interesting that the treo750 uses a different ati codebase |
| 21:44.18 | cr2 | the function names sometimes make more sense there. |
| 22:07.28 | pH5 | cr2: http://en.pastebin.ca/771278 <-- allow to use htc-egpio without using irqs |
| 22:07.36 | pH5 | cr2: http://en.pastebin.ca/771279 <-- make hx4700 use htc-egpio |
| 22:09.22 | cr2 | pH5: i need to look closer at it. i have 2 cplds in athena. one with the irq and another one without irq (1 egpio register) |
| 22:09.47 | pH5 | cr2: the one without irq should be initialized exactly like on hx4700 |
| 22:10.01 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:10.04 | pH5 | for the other one, look at apache or magician, whichever fits best. |
| 22:10.18 | cr2 | with this driver we will support a lot of hardware :) |
| 22:12.43 | pH5 | ok, I can still turn on wlan with that change :) |
| 22:13.17 | pH5 | I'll send it to kernel-bugs@hh and commit it later if there is no resistance. |
| 22:14.23 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:14.25 | cr2 | thanks :) |
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