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| 08:31.48 | BabelO | hi |
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| 09:46.44 | cr2 | BabelO: hi |
| 09:47.24 | BabelO | hi cr2, i ve done a better view yesturday ;) |
| 09:47.27 | cr2 | BabelO: what do they mean and expect when they say "does syncing work" ? |
| 09:48.08 | cr2 | is it this qdsync program ? |
| 09:48.19 | cr2 | whatever it does :) |
| 09:48.21 | BabelO | cr2 : syncing desktop and modile, for windows it is just activeSync |
| 09:48.37 | BabelO | cr2 : : yes for qtopia it is qdsync ;) |
| 09:48.43 | BabelO | http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/capture27.png |
| 09:49.04 | BabelO | look better ;) |
| 09:49.07 | cr2 | BabelO: activesync is black magic for me. i have no idea what it really does behind the scene ;) |
| 09:49.40 | cr2 | BabelO: why is the last entry cut ? |
| 09:49.54 | cr2 | it's not nice :) |
| 09:50.44 | BabelO | cr2 : because i use a scroll area ... and don't know why this widget fit to tab widget size including the tab |
| 09:50.47 | cr2 | maybe you can adjust the entry width. |
| 09:53.12 | BabelO | now i have look at the dialog tab, i have to use some line widget with HTML text |
| 09:58.04 | cr2 | ok. |
| 09:59.26 | BabelO | cr2 : : my gps sharing on artemis works again ;) i hope it works in roadmap too ;) |
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| 10:06.16 | corvus | hi all |
| 10:06.38 | corvus | goxboxlive, are you here? |
| 10:09.20 | goxboxlive | hoi |
| 10:09.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i cant see your screenshot, it's removed |
| 10:11.16 | goxboxlive | cr2: The guy atr xda forums means pim syncing. In linux we use kicthensync (synce) or theother one i dont remember the name of |
| 10:11.28 | goxboxlive | corvus: yes |
| 10:11.35 | corvus | multisync? |
| 10:12.00 | corvus | this weekend i continue testing audio in universal with qtopia |
| 10:12.50 | corvus | we can only usr 8 bit wavs directrly with the hardware (using cat file.wav > /dev/dsp) |
| 10:12.59 | corvus | s/usr/use |
| 10:14.04 | corvus | i try to reproduce alarm.wav (that plays ok using dsp) with helix player and doesnt do anything |
| 10:14.18 | corvus | dont show info nor time... nothing |
| 10:14.59 | corvus | i dont know how qtopia sound works, but maybe it uses helix internaly to plays sounds? |
| 10:19.50 | cr2 | corvus: isn't /dev/dsp only for the oss compatibility ? |
| 10:19.58 | cr2 | what about alsaplay ? |
| 10:20.11 | cr2 | goxboxlive: then wtf is qdsync ? |
| 10:20.42 | corvus | is qtopia doc says that it uses oss |
| 10:20.50 | corvus | universal has alsa with oss compat |
| 10:21.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i've read about gps at motofans site, i'll try that. maybe my gps is really toast. |
| 10:22.10 | cr2 | corvus: i know, because i hacked on this driver, and actually need to do more hacking. it's an alsa driver, and the apps should really use alsa API to play sound. |
| 10:22.33 | corvus | qdsync sycs two directories matching file sizes |
| 10:23.00 | cr2 | corvus: not that much for a 8MB RSS app ;) |
| 10:23.52 | corvus | i ask google, never use it, i prefer rsync :P |
| 10:23.57 | cr2 | lol |
| 10:24.22 | corvus | http://trolltech.com/developer/knowledgebase/257/ |
| 10:24.39 | corvus | which version of qtopia are we using in universal? |
| 10:24.46 | cr2 | In Qtopia Phone Edition 2.2.0 |
| 10:24.51 | cr2 | we have qtopia4 |
| 10:25.49 | corvus | i found it... |
| 10:25.50 | corvus | http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/qtopia-dependencies.html#sounds-and-qtopia |
| 10:26.23 | corvus | i just read that this is if we dont have helix integration |
| 10:26.24 | corvus | :S |
| 10:27.50 | corvus | we have helix integration, havent we? |
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| 10:51.41 | corvus | . |
| 10:52.57 | BabelO | goxboxlive : still around ? |
| 10:59.28 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes |
| 11:00.16 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok i ll upload screenshot again ;) |
| 11:01.05 | BabelO | goxboxlive : try again |
| 11:02.27 | goxboxlive | BabelO: looks real good :-) |
| 11:03.13 | goxboxlive | corvus: yes we have helix integration with our images, but helix is broken now. But the system sound isent dependent of helix. They should just work' |
| 11:04.11 | corvus | so helix is only the media player, but the system sound is not bounded to helix? |
| 11:05.09 | goxboxlive | yes that's what i have been told |
| 11:05.51 | goxboxlive | cr2: do we support this ? http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/qtopia-dependencies.html#sounds-and-qtopia If not, can you fix the soudriver spo we can support it. I mean Qtopia is useless without sound? |
| 11:05.57 | corvus | Qtopia doesnt have any config file about sound, must be all in sources. I search all the files in /opt/Qtopia and /home/root and there is nothing about sound. |
| 11:13.38 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 11:15.09 | goxboxlive | corvus: Have you enabled the LOGS when you start qtopia from ssh so you can see the output? /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf . Set the valuse to "1" form the ones you will se some debug oinfo from. |
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| 11:20.47 | corvus | ok... no, i doesnt enabled it, because the qtopia screens sometimes works strange... |
| 11:21.29 | corvus | i found others littles bugs, but not much important like sound... well maybe the screen flashing sometimes... :D |
| 11:21.54 | corvus | i will try enabling it. |
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| 12:00.15 | corvus | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.50 | corvus | http://pastebin.com/d551ffa77 |
| 12:02.12 | corvus | this is a alarm with almost all the logs enabled. |
| 12:02.43 | corvus | interesting lines in: |
| 12:03.01 | corvus | 32, call to resource... the wav file |
| 12:05.00 | corvus | 51, ask sql by the file... the next lines is sql searching the info of the file... to line 58 |
| 12:07.15 | corvus | line 65... ask for "mediaserver" |
| 12:07.30 | corvus | line 70 "mediaserver" crashed |
| 12:08.27 | corvus | line 71 ask again for mediaserver and in line 76 mediaserver is not running |
| 12:09.43 | corvus | the next lines i think are the back to the home screen.. |
| 12:10.20 | corvus | but in line 183 mediaserver is "starting" |
| 12:13.42 | corvus | next it changes the audio state, and at the end mediaserver is runing... :S |
| 12:13.54 | corvus | making more tests |
| 12:18.20 | corvus | in line 260 is a fail of the helix engine |
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| 12:35.21 | goxboxlive | corvus: hmm yes i have noticed, and i have no idea whats wrong. |
| 12:35.37 | goxboxlive | It works on the FICPHONE , but not on any of the htc devices |
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| 16:24.33 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i have forgot, will your IM app support MSN? |
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| 16:25.59 | ivucica | one question about ipaq, not htc ;) |
| 16:26.30 | ivucica | ramdiskrescue -- it provides no kernel for ipaq 3870 |
| 16:27.19 | ivucica | can i still run it with 2200's kernel, or maybe familiar's kernel? |
| 16:27.49 | BabelO | goxboxlive : yes MSN and others |
| 16:28.05 | goxboxlive | great |
| 16:28.21 | goxboxlive | ivucica: i have no idea |
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| 16:30.33 | ivucica | hmpfh |
| 16:30.58 | ivucica | rr looks nice, ill try with 2200's kernel... |
| 16:41.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO: have you heard anything from ljp about the phonelibs on magcian/Blueangel? |
| 16:51.59 | ivucica | ok, bye all |
| 16:55.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive : no still nothing :( |
| 17:01.36 | goxboxlive | hmmm |
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| 17:21.22 | zycho | hi all |
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| 18:08.25 | ivucica | hi |
| 18:08.48 | ivucica | is the developer of RamdiskRescue here, perhaps? ;) |
| 18:09.13 | ivucica | i am not sure how to get it to work with H3870 |
| 18:17.43 | ivucica | uhh... mkay |
| 18:19.09 | ivucica | ok, now a simple one, for anyone at least a tiny bit more experienced than me ;) |
| 18:19.57 | ivucica | can i load the familiar's jffs2 image as the initrd image using haret? |
| 18:21.09 | pH5 | easy. |
| 18:21.10 | pH5 | no |
| 18:21.21 | ivucica | aff :D |
| 18:21.34 | ivucica | is there a way to make it loadable? meaning conversion to other fs or something? |
| 18:21.51 | pH5 | you can load an initramfs that has an jffs2 image integrated as file though and have that load the jffs2 into a mtdram device on boot in userspace though. |
| 18:22.02 | pH5 | psokolovsky's liveramdisk images do something like that |
| 18:22.05 | ivucica | ouch. |
| 18:23.10 | ivucica | but cramfs image should be loadable, right? |
| 18:23.44 | pH5 | yes, as long as your kernel has cramfs support builtin |
| 18:24.09 | pH5 | cpio.gz initramfs and ext2(.gz) initrd work, too. |
| 18:25.02 | ivucica | do you perhaps know if stock Familiar kernel has cramfs built-in? |
| 18:25.58 | pH5 | no idea. when I started with my handheld, familiar was nearly dead already. |
| 18:26.08 | ivucica | oh |
| 18:26.19 | ivucica | so which distribution do you use? |
| 18:27.11 | pH5 | angstrom |
| 18:27.37 | ivucica | does angstrom have this built-in? i'm very bad with kernel compiling ;) |
| 18:29.06 | ivucica | pH5 ? |
| 18:29.30 | pH5 | I was looking. no, cramfs is disabled by default. |
| 18:29.50 | pH5 | h3870 is the same as h3800, right? |
| 18:29.59 | ivucica | i think so |
| 18:30.08 | ivucica | looks like it only has bluetooth added |
| 18:35.11 | ivucica | this will drive me insane, i can see |
| 18:35.12 | ivucica | i know so little on the subject :/ |
| 18:43.28 | ivucica | pH5 would you be willing to tomorrow at this same time help me with installing Angstrom using HaRET on many-times-mentioned 3870? |
| 18:44.11 | ivucica | any way of running it would help -- heck, i'd even recompile kernel ;) |
| 18:45.23 | pH5 | ivucica: sure, let's see if it'll really drive you insane ;) |
| 18:49.50 | ivucica | pH5 hehe, thanks ;) |
| 18:50.39 | ivucica | what do you think is better, making an ext2 initrd or a cpio initrd? i'll try "forcing it in" once again |
| 18:56.20 | ivucica | very interesting -- i get "no space left on device" with this output from df: |
| 18:56.26 | ivucica | -> /dev/loop0 14927 2110 12817 15% /home/ivucica/ppclinux/rr/tmp |
| 18:56.38 | ivucica | 15% use, and no space left ... interesting |
| 18:58.22 | pH5 | no idea. I always use ext2, but on sd card and not as initrd |
| 18:58.48 | ivucica | pH5 im not quite sure how should i even partition my mmc card |
| 18:58.58 | ivucica | i have no card reader, and i cant boot rr |
| 18:59.44 | ivucica | im trying to get a filesystem loaded by bootloader, as initrd, so that i have any fs at all |
| 19:00.29 | pH5 | yup, that should work, as long as it is small enough :) |
| 19:00.43 | ivucica | :) |
| 19:08.53 | ivucica | ok, i made a combo of rr and familiar and packed it into ext2 initrd... |
| 19:09.06 | ivucica | i just added familiar's kernel modules into rr |
| 19:09.13 | ivucica | (i'll boot using familiar's kernel) |
| 19:09.18 | ivucica | gonna keep you posted |
| 19:10.21 | ivucica | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.23 | ivucica | time to disconnect |
| 19:10.27 | ivucica | bye (again) |
| 19:10.30 | ivucica | cya tomorrow, pH5 ;) |
| 19:10.46 | pH5 | ivucica: bye |
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| 19:23.01 | goxboxlive | I think i started Qtopia on my magician last thursday. SInce then i have had it in suspend mode. It still runs :-) |
| 19:25.59 | pH5 | goxboxlive: with gsm chipset turned on or off? |
| 19:26.26 | goxboxlive | pH5: gsm off also BT off |
| 19:26.46 | goxboxlive | But anyway, it's quite impressive thouh |
| 19:26.48 | goxboxlive | g |
| 19:27.04 | goxboxlive | We dont have the modem running |
| 19:27.08 | goxboxlive | in qtopia |
| 19:29.56 | pH5 | goxboxlive: ok, if the signal is good it should be running for a week with gsm turned on though. |
| 19:30.35 | goxboxlive | pH5: i would be happy if only last for a day at work :-) |
| 19:30.56 | goxboxlive | I am so ready for using it as my daily phone, but |
| 19:31.12 | goxboxlive | x11 image (gsmd) is to unstable |
| 19:31.35 | goxboxlive | Openmoko (ui) and also gsmd is to unstable. ANd we dont have sms working |
| 19:32.13 | goxboxlive | so when we have modem support in Qtopia i am going to test it as a every day phone .-) |
| 19:32.56 | pH5 | goxboxlive: so you know what to do ;) |
| 19:34.03 | goxboxlive | pH5: i have tested so much now (also BabelO), and i have no idea what is going on. |
| 19:34.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO sent the Log and our source to Trolltech to get some help, but we havent heard anything yet |
| 19:34.53 | goxboxlive | ljp: any news about the phone libs support for BA/Magician? |
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| 20:31.47 | cr2 | hehe. one machine did not survive the update. |
| 20:32.13 | cr2 | ERROR: Could not inherit file classes/qmake_base.bbclass |
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| 21:01.08 | comicinker | hi! where can I download working linux - images for my htc? |
| 21:01.23 | cr2 | htc ? |
| 21:01.34 | comicinker | htc magician |
| 21:02.21 | BabelO | comicinker: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/ |
| 21:02.52 | comicinker | as far as I can see there are only the images from the qtopia available |
| 21:02.54 | BabelO | comicinker: or http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
| 21:03.01 | BabelO | comicinker: try first one before |
| 21:05.03 | BabelO | comicinker: your are downloading ? ;) |
| 21:05.19 | comicinker | I cannot decide... |
| 21:06.09 | cr2 | BabelO: i've updated suse to 10.3 |
| 21:06.21 | BabelO | cr2: me still to 10.1 :) |
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| 21:06.33 | cr2 | now gcc whines about char * "hello" |
| 21:06.55 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.58 | cr2 | wtf |
| 21:07.15 | BabelO | comicinker: take the 20071007 with zImage from same date |
| 21:07.42 | BabelO | cr2: so you have a new wine ? |
| 21:07.46 | comicinker | the magician-linux-2.6.21-hh16.exe is haret? |
| 21:07.51 | cr2 | BabelO: haha. wrc barfs on .rc file ;) 0.9.44 now. |
| 21:09.02 | BabelO | comicinker: yes maybe, but not full image |
| 21:10.02 | cr2 | BabelO: new gcc, and new wine. |
| 21:10.14 | cr2 | gcc (GCC) 4.2.1 (SUSE Linux) |
| 21:10.36 | cr2 | wine-0.9.44 |
| 21:10.36 | BabelO | cr2: what did you use as windows manager ? |
| 21:10.46 | cr2 | kde of course. |
| 21:11.04 | cr2 | the first thing after install was to delete all |
| 21:11.24 | cr2 | *beagle* *apparmor* *sharp* *mono* *gnome* :) |
| 21:11.28 | BabelO | cr2: be carefull ,maybe you have microsoft in now.. lol |
| 21:12.01 | cr2 | yes, when i wanted to delete some silly gnome translations rpm |
| 21:12.11 | cr2 | it wanted to remove kde ;-) |
| 21:12.27 | cr2 | suse looks ok, visually. |
| 21:12.40 | cr2 | but is degraded technically. |
| 21:12.52 | cr2 | pushing that mono/ms/novell crap |
| 21:13.05 | cr2 | i think i'll move to debian soon. |
| 21:13.30 | BabelO | debian, i never test, just old sarge distrib |
| 21:14.15 | pH5 | breaks from time to time, but in ways that I expect. |
| 21:14.22 | BabelO | pH5: what is that ? a link ? |
| 21:14.26 | cr2 | BabelO: i was shocked seeing some WeirdlyCasedProgramm.exe running after the default install ;-) |
| 21:14.46 | BabelO | cr2: really ? .exe .. outch ! |
| 21:14.47 | pH5 | BabelO: debian unstable |
| 21:15.12 | cr2 | BabelO: yeah. i've looked up the rpm name, and used 'rpm -e $package' ;) |
| 21:18.47 | comicinker | which tool can create partitions on a sd card? my gparted has problems at the moment |
| 21:19.27 | BabelO | comicinker: just fdisk |
| 21:19.32 | cr2 | BabelO: i've understood the m/pix algorithm used by roadmap. |
| 21:20.10 | BabelO | comicinker: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux |
| 21:20.24 | BabelO | comicinker: just follow first part about creating partition |
| 21:20.34 | cr2 | what i don't understand is why google/yahoo/ms all use the different Earth radius ;) |
| 21:21.08 | cr2 | pH5: what does this error mean ? ERROR: Could not inherit file classes/qmake_base.bbclass |
| 21:21.27 | cr2 | i'm trying the revive oe after the update. |
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| 21:22.41 | cr2 | suse is really retarded. they ship grass-5.0.3, when it's 6.3.0 now ;) |
| 21:23.58 | pH5 | cr2: that probably means your oe tree is broken. |
| 21:24.00 | pH5 | http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/classes/qmake_base.bbclass |
| 21:28.47 | cr2 | pH5: strange. i have the file. |
| 21:31.57 | pH5 | hm, strange indeed. I don't know why bitbake would give that ERROR when the file exists. |
| 21:39.08 | comicinker | BabelO: so I cant use the Ramdisk-image for magician? |
| 21:41.17 | BabelO | comicinker: oups, you miss pH5 few seconds ago :( sorry, it is is repository |
| 21:41.26 | BabelO | s/is is/is his/ |
| 21:43.28 | comicinker | BabelO: so I downloaded two files: Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs; Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20071007-magician.rootfs; now I unpack them and start magician-linux-2.6.21-hh16.exe on the pda, do I? |
| 21:44.53 | BabelO | comicinker: you need this one too zImage-2.6.21-hh16-magician-20070928161038 to run with 2008.1 image |
| 21:46.10 | BabelO | comicinker: you have to unpack Angstrom-image to your sd partition, then copy zImage at same place of your gharet.exe with correct script |
| 21:46.37 | BabelO | comicinker: correct script is default.txt at same place |
| 21:48.04 | comicinker | the two archives are in complete 50MB, my magician has only 64MB, will that work? |
| 21:49.03 | BabelO | comicinker: it is 33M compressed image to unpack in sd partition and 1.3M for kernel |
| 21:50.49 | comicinker | but wait- I don't want openmoko (not yet), I would prefer something working (my pda is my only phone), so I prefere Qtopia at the moment... where are the images for qtopia? |
| 21:56.58 | BabelO | comicinker: try x11 or gpe instead and you can use it as pda, use magician as phone is not possible at the moment, we have a modem issue |
| 21:58.25 | comicinker | oh... |
| 21:58.39 | cr2 | everything is broken now. |
| 21:58.44 | comicinker | I thought the phone is working? |
| 21:59.01 | comicinker | what about the old releases? |
| 21:59.16 | BabelO | comicinker: not working , nothing working apart PDA mode |
| 22:01.37 | comicinker | I'm a little bit confused: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician says GSM is working. is gsm not the phone module? |
| 22:02.41 | BabelO | comicinker: GSM is working in openmoko on magician, but not in qtopia you have driver layer and after library layer to super graphic environment |
| 22:04.39 | comicinker | so can I use the phone of the htc magician in any linux enviroment with a graphical dialer or phonebook? |
| 22:05.14 | BabelO | comicinker: yes, with openmoko |
| 22:05.49 | comicinker | but in the blog they told it is not relyable, or was it not relyable with the neo1973? |
| 22:06.43 | BabelO | comicinker: don't know about the blog |
| 22:07.35 | comicinker | BabelO: but making phone calls with openmoko should work on the htc, or? |
| 22:07.52 | BabelO | comicinker: yes shuold work |
| 22:08.40 | comicinker | great! that could be an answer from an engineer ;) |
| 22:12.30 | comicinker | I hope I can restore the device with the old images which I made when extended the memory... |
| 22:12.59 | comicinker | I mean I hope I can restore the device if this test fails with the ... |
| 22:13.17 | BabelO | comicinker: what is your wm version ? 2003 or 2005 ? |
| 22:13.40 | comicinker | where can I find the version? |
| 22:14.22 | comicinker | windows mobile? 2003 |
| 22:14.52 | BabelO | in settins -> system -> about |
| 22:15.42 | BabelO | yes if it is 2003 then you need to make a backupn else when you start linux you have to reset your system |
| 22:17.56 | comicinker | I made backups ones (1 year ago) with a tool called ntrw.exe |
| 22:20.29 | BabelO | don't know this tools, i use xbackup or sprite backup when i ran 2003 in the past |
| 22:20.35 | comicinker | ha- I have no extended ROM anymore. so a hard reset won't bring back my device. I will have to restore with that tool again... that will take hours, because I forgot my windows password (I used it last time to extend the ROM) |
| 22:20.35 | comicinker | or am I wrong? |
| 22:22.16 | comicinker | I mean about the exteneded ROM? |
| 22:23.05 | BabelO | i just know, if you reset your device actually, you looe all your contact, agenda, installedoftware, you need to sync again with computer and reinstall software |
| 22:26.16 | comicinker | ok, my display is not working... what can I do? |
| 22:26.49 | BabelO | comicinker: your display not working ? |
| 22:27.35 | comicinker | the touchpad. everything is displayed, but I cannot make the first step to configure the display, because nothing is reacting |
| 22:28.04 | BabelO | comicinker: you boot ilnux then ? |
| 22:28.16 | comicinker | yes, I did it |
| 22:29.00 | comicinker | I unpacked the two archives to the ext3-partition, and the newest z-image is on the fat16 partition |
| 22:29.09 | BabelO | comicinker: you have two solution ;) one is to copy pointerfile from link before to /etc directory, else connect over ssh and start ts_calibrate by hand |
| 22:29.38 | BabelO | comicinker: you unpack two archive ?? |
| 22:30.25 | comicinker | Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs |
| 22:30.25 | comicinker | and Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20071007-magician.rootfs |
| 22:30.58 | BabelO | comicinker: just one image at a time choose between openmoko or gpe |
| 22:31.10 | comicinker | k |
| 22:35.38 | comicinker | BabelO: but which pointerfile did you meant before? |
| 22:36.14 | BabelO | comicinker: http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/pointercal |
| 22:36.38 | BabelO | try this one with openmoko image gpe image have no phone, but have calibrate tool on startup ;à |
| 22:37.58 | comicinker | no, the openmoko image is working, it showed the angström bootimage, and the callibration worked |
| 22:38.13 | BabelO | ok good then |
| 22:42.03 | comicinker | how can I make the phone is workin? I entered my pin, but I couldn't make a phone call... |
| 22:43.30 | BabelO | comicinker: you ask me too many thing :( i never start openmoko with phone, sorry |
| 22:47.31 | comicinker | what are you using? are you using the phone? |
| 22:48.05 | BabelO | comicinker: no it is not working on my device, just PDA part.. i hope it can run in qtopia soon |
| 22:49.06 | BabelO | comicinker: maybe you can try without pin code, or check if gsmd is running under openmoko, don't know the solution |
| 22:53.48 | comicinker | ok, the dialer is making and receiving calls. thats great! |
| 22:55.01 | BabelO | comicinker: good, without pin ? |
| 22:55.14 | BabelO | does sms works too ? |
| 22:55.28 | comicinker | no, with pin. I entered and waited a while |
| 22:56.07 | comicinker | about sms: just checking... |
| 22:57.21 | BabelO | ok good |
| 22:57.49 | BabelO | comicinker: does in look nice ? all fit into screen ? |
| 22:59.39 | comicinker | I think I have to get used to it. there are icon size errors (just a little), but everything fits well. the dialer works pretty good with my fat fingers, and kinetic scrolling is also very fancy;) |
| 22:59.52 | comicinker | by the way arent you german? |
| 23:00.46 | comicinker | the keyboard is also ok. well, T9 and handwriting recognision won't be available in near future, I think |
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| 23:03.53 | comicinker | ok, the keyboard just broke down. I'm still not sure about sms... |
| 23:05.08 | comicinker | how do I reboot that device? |
| 23:05.25 | BabelO | lol, standart reset ;) |
| 23:05.30 | BabelO | or remove the battery |
| 23:06.01 | comicinker | won't that crash the file system? |
| 23:06.23 | BabelO | comicinker: no, i do it each time ;) |
| 23:06.41 | comicinker | how do I get ssh access? |
| 23:07.05 | BabelO | you have to plud it on udb, then if you have linux on host side |
| 23:07.09 | BabelO | modprobe usbnet |
| 23:07.21 | BabelO | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.201 |
| 23:07.27 | BabelO | the ssh to 192.168.0.202 |
| 23:07.49 | BabelO | be carefull if you are on same subnet for your host, create a specific route with |
| 23:07.56 | BabelO | route add 192.168.0.202 gw 192.168.0.201 |
| 23:09.22 | comicinker | my host is in 192.168.178.x, I think thats fine |
| 23:09.35 | BabelO | yes that's ok |
| 23:11.10 | comicinker | whats the root pw? |
| 23:11.26 | comicinker | ...root. great |
| 23:11.39 | BabelO | no pass |
| 23:11.58 | comicinker | how was the chroot command? |
| 23:12.10 | comicinker | where to? |
| 23:12.24 | BabelO | comicinker: no chroot |
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| 23:13.09 | comicinker | how can I controll the device, for example reboot via ssh, or kill or restart a process (keyboard!) |
| 23:14.02 | BabelO | all command are here "halt" "reboot" to restart openmoko look something like "/etc/init.d/openmoko start" or something like that |
| 23:14.12 | BabelO | sometimes service are also in /etc/X11/services |
| 23:15.02 | comicinker | I didn't do ssh so often till now. a command "top" in ssh will show me the processes of the pda or host? |
| 23:20.45 | comicinker | BabelO: a soft reset won't bring back my device |
| 23:23.26 | cr2 | comicinker: magician ? |
| 23:23.36 | comicinker | yes. cr2 |
| 23:23.46 | cr2 | do a hard reset. it's wince2003 |
| 23:24.13 | BabelO | comicinker: yes reset your device in standard way and remove battery, i have same thing with BA before |
| 23:24.35 | comicinker | BA? |
| 23:24.47 | BabelO | HTC Blueangel |
| 23:25.29 | comicinker | but how can I make the soft reset working? I don't want to loose settings and so on |
| 23:25.37 | comicinker | or boot always wince |
| 23:25.47 | comicinker | is there a possibility? |
| 23:26.08 | BabelO | comicinker: remove battery, just that, that's why i tell you about backup |
| 23:27.11 | cr2 | comicinker: it's impossible on wince2003 |
| 23:27.44 | comicinker | cr2: ok. I start praying that the apps wont break;) |
| 23:29.18 | cr2 | the apps will not break, but your RAM is gone. like with the empty battery. |
| 23:31.37 | BabelO | cr2: is there a reason for that ? |
| 23:31.51 | BabelO | cr2: if (0 == channel) and not if (channel == 0) |
| 23:32.03 | BabelO | cr2: any gcc compiler optimisation ? |
| 23:32.10 | comicinker | I mean: I pray I will never have to reboot the device, because I will always have to boot windows first. but all settings are stored on the sd-card, I think. aren't they? |
| 23:33.16 | BabelO | comicinker: you sync your device with windows sometimes ? then in this case just plug in and all go back |
| 23:34.26 | comicinker | no, there occured problems wit active sync and synchronising with outlook. contacts got irreversible lost. I dont sync with microsoft anymore |
| 23:36.58 | cr2 | BabelO: it makes cut and paste easier ? |
| 23:37.46 | BabelO | cr2: don't know... i always use if (channel ==0 ) more easy to read ;) |
| 23:38.05 | cr2 | BabelO: gcc goes from left to write in such expressions, but you can't rely on it. |
| 23:38.26 | cr2 | s/write/right/ |
| 23:38.32 | cr2 | it's late ;) |
| 23:38.38 | BabelO | yes ;) |
| 23:38.49 | BabelO | cr2: but it is single if |
| 23:39.17 | BabelO | ok anyway good night ... tomorrow i hope my apps works |
| 23:44.31 | cr2 | good night |
