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| 07:20.54 | pdaman2604 | hello |
| 07:21.48 | pdaman2604 | can someone show me or point me to the right direction on running linux on my pda please? |
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| 07:25.25 | BabelO | hi |
| 07:28.34 | pdaman2604 | hello babe10 |
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| 10:10.51 | pdaman2604 | hello |
| 10:24.40 | rakeem | Hullo.... |
| 10:25.16 | rakeem | What's your favourite problem then? |
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| 10:30.09 | tsdogs | hi, pdaman2604 what is your PDA model? |
| 10:30.34 | pdaman2604 | htc trinity |
| 10:30.39 | pdaman2604 | hi tsdogs |
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| 10:31.39 | pdaman2604 | would love to run linux on it:) |
| 10:31.49 | tsdogs | ok looking... |
| 10:31.58 | pdaman2604 | thxs |
| 10:35.15 | tsdogs | well it seems no info is available for this model :( cr2_ or Kevin would know better |
| 10:35.36 | tsdogs | Maybe some haret discovery is still needed ... |
| 10:36.05 | pdaman2604 | ok cool,could tell me the basic layout of how it works please? |
| 10:36.28 | pdaman2604 | do i make a folder dump all the bits in to it ? do i have to modify my bootloader? |
| 10:37.05 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: the only info I can find is this one: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTCTrinity |
| 10:37.59 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: the problem is that the hardware seems to not be supported, probably u can boot linux in ramfs, but that's all |
| 10:38.16 | pdaman2604 | ok just looked at the link looks promising so my trinity is similar hardware layout to the htc hermes |
| 10:39.32 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Linux |
| 10:41.07 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: probably cr2_ can help u on this one, though U should do tests... |
| 10:41.38 | tsdogs | Also there is no trinity and neither hermes in current cvs kernel AFAIK |
| 10:43.07 | pdaman2604 | thxs tsdogs do u know when he will be around? |
| 10:44.09 | tsdogs | well cr2_ is always connected. This afternoon (depends on where u live of course) could be or defenatly this evening |
| 10:44.30 | tsdogs | btw europe here |
| 10:45.10 | pdaman2604 | uk london << |
| 10:45.24 | rakeem | Hong Kong here... Which reminds me, it's really easy to get spare parts here.... If anyone's got a sick device.... |
| 10:45.43 | tsdogs | :) |
| 10:46.01 | pdaman2604 | nice to meet u guyz |
| 10:46.30 | rakeem | Likewise... Good luck with your mission... |
| 10:46.37 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: hermes docs look old though :( |
| 10:46.53 | pdaman2604 | thxs rakeem :) |
| 10:47.00 | pdaman2604 | tsdogs what do u mean? |
| 10:47.34 | tsdogs | that the docs on the wiki are from 2006 I think so probably nobody cared about it anymore ... |
| 10:47.49 | tsdogs | but I might be wrong. |
| 10:48.23 | tsdogs | checking if there is something in OE .. |
| 10:48.38 | pdaman2604 | thxs tsdogs:) |
| 10:50.02 | tsdogs | hmm: alpine apache blueangel himalaya sable universal wallaby |
| 10:50.24 | rakeem | I'd like to see some more movement on the Tornado port.... |
| 10:50.28 | tsdogs | this are the supported archs for the kernel at handhelds.org right now :( no hermes neither trinity |
| 10:50.28 | pdaman2604 | yes older devices seem to be ok |
| 10:51.46 | pdaman2604 | so what do u suggest i do ? |
| 10:52.41 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: I found this if of interest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333116 |
| 10:53.18 | pdaman2604 | ok looking :) |
| 10:55.08 | tsdogs | for some bleeding edge: http://linuxtogo.org/~law/htctornado/gpephone/images/ |
| 10:57.06 | pdaman2604 | tsdogs:) thxs u alot:) gonna try it know:) |
| 10:57.21 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: wellcome :) |
| 11:01.49 | pdaman2604 | ok doing it will let u no if it works:) |
| 11:04.18 | tsdogs | pdaman2604: ok. |
| 11:07.48 | rakeem | Can anyone tell me the command to read the battery charge level on the Uni? |
| 11:11.01 | rakeem | tsdogs: Hey, thanks for the link, that's a much newer image than my current! |
| 11:12.49 | tsdogs | rakeem: there should be a /sys/batttery or something |
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| 12:40.59 | pdaman2604 | haret wont read the default.txt file |
| 12:41.04 | pdaman2604 | does anyone no why? |
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| 15:30.59 | cr2_ | hi |
| 15:32.07 | cr2_ | tsdogs: hermes and trinity are in the hh.org CVS, but trinity need more gpio tracing. but the main problems are the same as on hermes. nand and/or SD. |
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| 15:44.38 | pdaman2604 | hi cr2 |
| 15:45.14 | pdaman2604 | been trying all afternoon to get it to work using the tornado distro from the link given to me by tsdogs |
| 15:46.32 | pdaman2604 | would u happen to know what distro would work with trinity? if so do u have a link please? |
| 15:48.33 | cr2_ | trinity and tornado are very different. |
| 15:48.47 | pdaman2604 | yes |
| 15:49.03 | cr2_ | there are some fundamental problems with trinity, so you should wait for hermes being in a working state. |
| 15:49.20 | cr2_ | or do it yourself :) |
| 15:49.25 | pdaman2604 | i wish :D |
| 15:49.47 | pdaman2604 | so no distro will even boot up in trinity? |
| 15:50.03 | cr2_ | not really |
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| 15:50.19 | pdaman2604 | damn shame :( |
| 15:50.29 | cr2_ | i can create something like was done on hermes, but it does not help much. |
| 15:50.41 | pdaman2604 | will it boot up?:D |
| 15:51.02 | cr2_ | yes. as on hermes. kernel+minimal ramdisk |
| 15:51.16 | cr2_ | you'll see the penguin, and the login prompt. |
| 15:51.22 | cr2_ | can ssh over usb. |
| 15:51.25 | cr2_ | that's all. |
| 15:51.34 | pdaman2604 | i c :) |
| 15:51.47 | cr2_ | nothing else will work. |
| 15:52.01 | pdaman2604 | i wish i studied programming |
| 15:52.04 | pdaman2604 | :) |
| 15:52.52 | pdaman2604 | ok what about my 2nd device i also have the htc athena |
| 15:53.11 | cr2_ | athena has better chances :) |
| 15:53.22 | pdaman2604 | cool:) |
| 15:53.39 | cr2_ | i've booted linux on athena and done some major research. because i have it too. |
| 15:53.45 | pdaman2604 | ill split that microdrive up just for linux:) |
| 15:53.58 | pdaman2604 | nice 1 cr2:) |
| 15:54.09 | cr2_ | i've even found the docs for the microdrive IDE controller. |
| 15:54.31 | cr2_ | but this driver needs to be written first. |
| 15:54.35 | pdaman2604 | how far is linux working on athena? |
| 15:55.07 | cr2_ | also the LCD powers down after some minutes, and there is no way to power it up. this needs some research too. |
| 15:55.27 | cr2_ | the SD is not supported. |
| 15:55.57 | cr2_ | it's on the same controller as hermes and trinity -> no support now, because of no docs. |
| 15:55.58 | BabelO | cr2_ : http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2007-10-03.3664932915 |
| 15:56.01 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 15:56.06 | cr2_ | hi BabelO |
| 15:56.13 | pdaman2604 | would it be possible after fully installing linux on athena would u plan to put in beryl and all its effects also :D? |
| 15:56.19 | pdaman2604 | jokkkkkkkkkkkeee:D |
| 15:56.33 | Ilya_1st | lol |
| 15:56.59 | pdaman2604 | i was just kiddin :) |
| 15:57.19 | cr2_ | BabelO: wow. we don't need to port roadmap to wince :) |
| 15:57.40 | cr2_ | the world domination is close :) |
| 15:58.31 | BabelO | cr2_: yes :) |
| 15:58.41 | pdaman2604 | cr2 do u know anything about the htc wallaby? |
| 15:58.48 | cr2_ | pdaman2604: if AMD will release the docs no only for some Radeon chips, but also for W228x too ;-) |
| 15:58.53 | BabelO | cr2_: i m curious to start powertop on BA |
| 15:59.06 | cr2_ | pdaman2604: sa1100 based device. do you have one ? |
| 15:59.19 | pdaman2604 | yes but no bootloader :( |
| 15:59.33 | cr2_ | pdaman2604: ? linux boots on wallaby |
| 15:59.44 | cr2_ | but no SD driver. |
| 15:59.50 | cr2_ | but. |
| 16:00.02 | cr2_ | there are some good ideas how to do it. |
| 16:00.08 | pdaman2604 | thats what i was gonna ask it all comes on no bootloader but in usb device ,but i cant flash it is there a way? |
| 16:00.21 | pdaman2604 | would be great to try if i can get it to work again |
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| 16:03.45 | pdaman2604 | surely there must be a way of flashing this device ,,,it was deleted by trying to flash a rom from xda developers |
| 16:05.24 | goxboxlive | cr2_: i have managed to get the Qtopia image down to 103MB now. |
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| 16:06.26 | goxboxlive | he went offline |
| 16:06.30 | goxboxlive | he wen back |
| 16:07.20 | cr2 | home on nfs got disconnected somewhere in between ;) |
| 16:07.41 | goxboxlive | cr2: now sorry, it's even less, it's: /dev/mmcblk0p3 342.2M 81.9M 242.6M 25% / |
| 16:08.00 | cr2 | pdaman2604: what do you mean by bootloader ? |
| 16:08.03 | goxboxlive | But that's with cruxus as medplaugin, not Helix. But i dont think Helix is that big |
| 16:08.17 | cr2 | goxboxlive: qtopia4 image ? |
| 16:08.56 | pdaman2604 | u no when u are going to flash the wallaby device u put it in to bootloader mode ,,,when u plug in usb lead it says usb and it flashes via this ? |
| 16:09.48 | cr2 | pdaman2604: we will flash directly. if at all- |
| 16:10.23 | cr2 | BabelO: can we compile the winceqt4 with gcc ? :) |
| 16:10.30 | pdaman2604 | i cant flash nothing because i cant get bootloader up its gone ,,somehow vanished while flashing it and the flashing failed |
| 16:10.55 | cr2 | pdaman2604: we don't care about flashing right now. does it run wince ? |
| 16:11.15 | pdaman2604 | nope |
| 16:11.15 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes |
| 16:11.27 | goxboxlive | cr2: actually opie2 + qtopia4 |
| 16:11.38 | BabelO | cr2 : good question |
| 16:11.39 | cr2 | pdaman2604: you killed wince ? |
| 16:11.44 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 16:11.47 | pdaman2604 | yes no wince also |
| 16:12.02 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but then 512MB is a requirement for running linux. |
| 16:12.18 | goxboxlive | cr2: ?? |
| 16:12.18 | cr2 | pdaman2604: it's better to restore wince first. |
| 16:12.30 | pdaman2604 | i wish i knew how sir |
| 16:12.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: 242.6M used ? |
| 16:13.00 | cr2 | pdaman2604: is xda-dev of no help ? |
| 16:13.05 | pdaman2604 | nope |
| 16:13.06 | goxboxlive | cr2: 81,9M used |
| 16:13.21 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok :) |
| 16:13.24 | cr2 | that's better. |
| 16:13.28 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 16:13.47 | cr2 | but 64 may be better :) |
| 16:14.03 | goxboxlive | i cant do that i think |
| 16:14.12 | cr2 | hmm. how much does hima have ? |
| 16:14.15 | goxboxlive | is do we have to skip alot oif applications |
| 16:14.28 | goxboxlive | And Universal? |
| 16:14.29 | cr2 | yes. games ;) |
| 16:14.41 | goxboxlive | of course, i only need Tetris :-) |
| 16:14.42 | cr2 | universal is 128M |
| 16:14.46 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:14.51 | goxboxlive | Ba and Magician? |
| 16:14.53 | pdaman2604 | how would i be able to restore wince back on the device cr2? |
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| 16:15.20 | cr2 | pdaman2604: there must be a lot of such questions in the xda-dev archives. |
| 16:15.39 | pdaman2604 | i have checked in vein sir nothing |
| 16:15.40 | cr2 | goxboxlive: magician is 64. afair. |
| 16:15.46 | goxboxlive | ohhh |
| 16:16.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive: BA uses m-doc G3. like the older universals. so no luck so far. otherwise it has 64MB (or was it 32 ?) of NOR flash |
| 16:16.40 | cr2 | hmm. i think 32 |
| 16:16.47 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:16.48 | cr2 | 32+64=96. |
| 16:17.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: arent we able to solove the m-doc G3 soon? |
| 16:17.42 | cr2 | as the last thing. |
| 16:17.45 | cr2 | Active Qt |
| 16:17.48 | cr2 | wtf is that? |
| 16:17.59 | goxboxlive | arent we soon able to solve the m-doc G3? What's left? |
| 16:18.33 | cr2 | goxboxlive: mdoc asic research for writing into flash. |
| 16:19.07 | cr2 | how to do block writes using dma. |
| 16:19.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: is it hard? Havent pH5 solved it for Magician? |
| 16:19.17 | cr2 | otherwise it will be very slow. |
| 16:19.20 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:19.24 | cr2 | magician uses pxa flash. |
| 16:19.32 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:19.33 | cr2 | it was solved many years ago. |
| 16:20.09 | goxboxlive | So actually a bootloader for magician could be solved very soon (if just pH5 had time) right? |
| 16:20.51 | cr2 | goxboxlive: so it's actually an interesting project to strip qtopia4 as much as possible, and have the phone running. |
| 16:21.11 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes. and therefore ba. |
| 16:21.20 | goxboxlive | yes, and we will be able to run apps from SD right? |
| 16:21.22 | cr2 | because it's 99.98% the same. |
| 16:21.27 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:21.43 | cr2 | abnd hima btw. |
| 16:21.50 | cr2 | s/abnd/and/ |
| 16:22.26 | goxboxlive | cr2: i think it should be easy to strip it down a little, but as far as 64MB is maybe to much. |
| 16:22.27 | cr2 | BabelO: where do i grab the winceqt4 source ? |
| 16:22.35 | goxboxlive | ljp should know this better than me. |
| 16:22.44 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 16:22.50 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 16:23.00 | cr2 | goxboxlive: QtScript and the dictionary alone are 4MB. |
| 16:23.16 | cr2 | then the gazillion of the timezones. |
| 16:23.21 | cr2 | and html help. |
| 16:23.48 | goxboxlive | cr2: you dont need the timezones. It's just to create a symlink to SD |
| 16:24.24 | cr2 | i mean you can drop all these immediately. |
| 16:25.03 | cr2 | qt4chm may be the best. |
| 16:25.09 | cr2 | if it exists :) |
| 16:25.30 | goxboxlive | cr2: of course i can drop it, but it makes no sense right now since we dont have the bootloader ready yet |
| 16:25.53 | BabelO | cr2 : http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/index/?searchterm=qtopia%20wince |
| 16:26.30 | cr2 | BabelO: Qt and Qtopia Core 4.3.2 Released |
| 16:26.36 | cr2 | thanks. |
| 16:27.16 | cr2 | View the 5-Minute Video Demo |
| 16:27.17 | cr2 | lol |
| 16:27.35 | cr2 | i want an arm-wince-gcc makefile :) |
| 16:33.34 | cr2 | BabelO: can't download 4.3.2 |
| 16:34.50 | cr2 | hehe. their links are broken. |
| 16:38.13 | cr2 | BabelO: it's the binaries. |
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| 16:39.28 | BabelO | cr2 : i just have snapshot reference http://ftp.silug.org/pub/qtopia/snapshots/ |
| 16:40.20 | cr2 | ok. downloading. |
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| 16:54.48 | BabelO | cr2 : you are getting qtwince source ? |
| 16:55.05 | cr2 | the snapshot |
| 16:55.38 | cr2 | it may be a very good test of the cegcc quality. |
| 16:55.40 | BabelO | snapshot is not for wince just for qtopia 4.3.2 |
| 16:56.00 | cr2 | i've downloaded 4.3.2 from the main trolls site. |
| 16:56.08 | cr2 | already compiling. |
| 16:58.59 | BabelO | ok |
| 17:00.15 | cr2 | BabelO: how do you compile qtopia4 ? |
| 17:00.19 | BabelO | cr2: if you want i can extract qtwince binary on my machine for source |
| 17:00.22 | cr2 | with .bb ? |
| 17:00.37 | cr2 | BabelO: i've run the installer in wine. |
| 17:00.43 | BabelO | cr2 : no, by hand with external arm gcc compiler |
| 17:00.46 | cr2 | does it include the source ? |
| 17:00.59 | BabelO | ah yes wine, good idea, latest version works perfect |
| 17:01.18 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, that's much better for me. oe does not work here for a long time. |
| 17:01.54 | BabelO | cr2 : it seem yes, source are in preview "Complete Qt/WinCE source code" |
| 17:03.04 | cr2 | What's Included in the Technology Preview |
| 17:03.14 | cr2 | Complete Qt/WinCE source code |
| 17:03.34 | cr2 | qt-wince-preview-commercial-4.3.2-vs2005.exe |
| 17:03.40 | cr2 | that's the only download. |
| 17:05.59 | goxboxlive | BabelO: is it "export QTOPIA_PHONE_DUMMY=/dev/ttyS1"to disable phone with Qtopia? |
| 17:06.50 | BabelO | goxboxlive : no i remove dummy in my custom.h and just set variable QTOPIA-PHONE_DEVICE=no; QTOPIA_PHONE_VENDORS=no same for MUX |
| 17:07.12 | BabelO | you don't need to recompile |
| 17:07.12 | goxboxlive | ok thx |
| 17:13.46 | BabelO | cr2: i have qtwince source in the exe file, it is ok... and i think visual studio is somewhere in the office |
| 17:16.39 | cr2 | BabelO: microsoft compiler as a requirement for free software is bad. we have done it right with haret already :) |
| 17:19.47 | BabelO | we can try with arm-wince-gcc then |
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| 17:47.44 | goxboxlive | BabelO_: have you any idea why buttons doesnt work anymore? |
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| 19:14.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO_: does this help us: Media : UriNegotiator::createSession "{93106f70-0a61-46c6-9432-9b334771f731}" "Default" QUrl( "file:///opt/Qtopia/sounds/alarm.wav" ) |
| 19:15.12 | goxboxlive | It is when i have set an alarm |
| 19:22.12 | cr2 | BabelO: the precompiled binaries need MSVCP80.dll and MSVCR80.dll |
| 19:38.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: still there? |
| 19:39.35 | goxboxlive | If i want to replace a word in some files, with another word. Is that doable? Like i want to replce ficgta01 with htcphone and Ficgta01 with Htcphone. How do i do that? |
| 19:39.49 | goxboxlive | Isent there something with 'sed' or something? |
| 19:41.10 | cr2 | yes, but you should be careful. |
| 19:41.41 | cr2 | first, search for all files with 'ficgta01' inside. |
| 19:47.16 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes but how do i do that? |
| 19:50.11 | goxboxlive | i found it :-) sed -i -e ’s/”ati”/”fglrx”/’ /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:54.00 | goxboxlive | hmm but this one didnt do it recursive |
| 19:56.06 | cr2 | find . -type f | xargs grep ficgta01 |
| 19:57.03 | cr2 | you need to do 'mv filename filename.tmp && sed 's///' < filename.tmp > filename ' |
| 19:59.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: but isent that just for renaming all the files? I was thinking more of replacing words inside files. |
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| 20:07.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you can't replace strings inside a file. |
| 20:08.16 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:08.28 | pdaman2604 | hello again cr2 thxs again for your time earlier:) |
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| 20:18.18 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 20:19.29 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO i see that ljp has had some progress with FICPHONE now, i think maybe it will help us. At least with sound. |
| 20:20.02 | goxboxlive | I am thinking of building the new source, but i hate to replace all the fic* to htc* . |
| 20:20.29 | goxboxlive | hmm mybe i just should build it as fic and just edit it so it fits universal better . |
| 20:21.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i don't look for Keyboard, so it is not working for you too |
| 20:22.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO: the keyboard is working, but not the buttons |
| 20:22.08 | BabelO | ok |
| 20:22.48 | BabelO | cr2: do you know Project Mars 500 ? |
| 20:22.49 | goxboxlive | BabelO: couls you pastebin your custom.cpp/h ? |
| 20:23.01 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes |
| 20:23.08 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 20:25.09 | BabelO | goxboxlive: cpp file -> http://pastebin.ca/724706 and include file http://pastebin.ca/724707 |
| 20:25.15 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 20:27.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: why do you use ttyS0, ttyS8 and ttyUSB0? |
| 20:28.03 | goxboxlive | isent it enough with just ttyS0 and ttyS8? |
| 20:28.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i think ttyS0 and ttyS8 can be removed from this file |
| 20:28.21 | BabelO | ttyUSB0 is for qdsync, i build with it actually |
| 20:29.10 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:31.20 | goxboxlive | BabelO: if you install the Shutdown.desktop the you will have shutdown menu in Qtopia. |
| 20:31.40 | BabelO | ok ;) and for konsole ? ;) |
| 20:33.02 | goxboxlive | There is no yet, It is suplied in the Opie2 source, but i failescompilig for me |
| 20:33.16 | BabelO | ok |
| 20:33.25 | BabelO | ah really in opie2 sources ? |
| 20:33.33 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 20:45.27 | goxboxlive | BabelO: as soon as we have sound and the phone working i am going start using my Magican as my daily phone :-) . So we need to hurry up mow. |
| 20:45.52 | goxboxlive | I see that ljp is using the Ficohone without mux so i guess we can also do that. |
| 20:46.02 | goxboxlive | until we have the mux working. |
| 20:46.48 | BabelO | without mux ? |
| 20:47.35 | goxboxlive | Yes |
| 20:47.52 | goxboxlive | BabelO: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-October/010764.html |
| 20:47.53 | BabelO | so we have to move code |
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| 21:02.29 | cr2 | hi lamikr |
| 21:03.58 | BabelO | cr2: so dll are needed :( |
| 21:04.19 | BabelO | it is wince dll |
| 21:04.56 | cr2 | BabelO: no, i think it's msvc than links the crosstools |
| 21:05.07 | BabelO | :( |
| 21:06.30 | BabelO | cr2: i try again roadmap ;) |
| 21:06.38 | cr2 | i guess one can pick them somewhere else |
| 21:06.43 | cr2 | on qtopia4 ? |
| 21:06.50 | BabelO | yes |
| 21:06.53 | cr2 | without fileselection box |
| 21:07.08 | BabelO | yes without |
| 21:07.40 | cr2 | i guess we should enable all options, and compare the size |
| 21:07.57 | cr2 | i doubt it's really worth the pain of disabling them. |
| 21:08.09 | cr2 | we are at 80+MB anyway. |
| 21:08.41 | BabelO | :) ok |
| 21:10.07 | cr2 | and then bash the people who use bizarre widgets. |
| 21:10.22 | cr2 | like kiozen :) |
| 21:10.36 | BabelO | what is bizarre widget for you ? |
| 21:11.00 | cr2 | but color picker or file selection box must be there. |
| 21:11.17 | cr2 | canvassplit or how it was called. |
| 21:11.33 | cr2 | which really does not make much sense on a 240x240 LCD ;) |
| 21:13.55 | cr2 | BabelO: can we gather a list of files which _must_ be installed with roadmap ? |
| 21:14.19 | BabelO | yes sure, i put it somewhere |
| 21:14.20 | cr2 | only default/Skin-style comes to my mind. |
| 21:14.33 | cr2 | maybe preferences |
| 21:14.41 | cr2 | sprites |
| 21:14.51 | cr2 | and the icons |
| 21:15.04 | cr2 | in an incertain format and location. |
| 21:15.20 | cr2 | i suggest to wipe out the redundant files from CVS |
| 21:16.00 | BabelO | yes and to fix install script |
| 21:18.14 | cr2 | and the hardcoded paths. |
| 21:18.25 | cr2 | if they are really necessary. |
| 21:18.25 | BabelO | hardcoded ? |
| 21:18.44 | cr2 | yes, i think /usr/local/share/roadmap is hardcoded. |
| 21:19.01 | BabelO | cr2: no, i put file in /usr/share i think |
| 21:19.04 | cr2 | it#s the only place where the map skin can be put. |
| 21:19.37 | cr2 | actually both are not very useful for a qtopia program. |
| 21:25.42 | BabelO | my ba craddle is broken :( |
| 21:26.06 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 21:27.07 | BabelO | cr2: do you know Project Mars 500 ? i see a small movie about |
| 21:28.13 | cr2 | no. |
| 21:29.50 | cr2 | ok, looked up on google. i've heard about it |
| 21:30.12 | BabelO | it is interesting |
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| 21:35.43 | cr2 | i wish ESA did something useful and realistic instead of megalomaniac money burning projects. |
| 21:35.57 | cr2 | hehe. the big brother is watching :) |
| 21:36.45 | BabelO | ;) |
| 21:36.55 | BabelO | are you in a new project now ? |
| 21:37.54 | cr2 | not really, the money from the old project came to an end now. |
| 21:38.24 | cr2 | but i may be working on an esa-financed project half-time ;) lol. |
| 21:39.09 | cr2 | or maybe not. if i'll get really tired. |
| 21:43.21 | BabelO | humm i need to setup wifi or bluetooh network on ba :( usb connect is broken |
| 21:44.40 | cr2 | what about charging ? |
| 21:44.59 | BabelO | chargin is ok |
| 21:45.06 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:46.14 | BabelO | i think i order a connector on internet with a new gadget i want to buy :) |
| 21:47.39 | BabelO | humm not a gadget a game :) |
| 21:49.40 | cr2 | the connector is the same as on hima. |
| 21:49.51 | cr2 | and you can have rs232 too. |
| 21:50.12 | BabelO | yes i found a website with connector description |
| 22:16.55 | BabelO | ok connector is ok now ;) |
| 22:17.42 | BabelO | cr2: whatabout usb power >100mA ? no news |
| 22:27.36 | cr2 | no afaik |
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| 23:35.02 | BROKEN_M20 | hi, i would like to install linux on my htc blueangel device. Can anyone guide me in the right direction, please? thx |
| 23:37.54 | BabelO | BROKEN_M20: try this directory http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/GPEphone/ and follow this setup http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux |
| 23:38.00 | BabelO | good night |