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| 03:35.11 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 03:35.23 | lkthomas | if you guys don't mind me to ask wince question |
| 03:35.34 | lkthomas | I have XDA II with wm2003 (not se) |
| 03:35.46 | lkthomas | and it seems keep dropping connection to my bluetooth headset |
| 03:35.58 | lkthomas | I heard microsoft BT stack sucks |
| 03:36.07 | lkthomas | and someone said it could be replace |
| 03:36.11 | lkthomas | anyone know how to replace it ? |
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| 06:01.27 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 06:01.30 | lkthomas | anyone still awake ? |
| 06:02.22 | sadeness | ctulhu |
| 06:04.03 | lkthomas | sadeness: do you use XDA II ? |
| 06:04.49 | sadeness | no, qtek s200 (aka Prophet) |
| 06:08.30 | lkthomas | well |
| 06:08.43 | lkthomas | Is there have any way to replace microsoft BT stack on XDA II ? |
| 06:09.49 | sadeness | sure was. I saw broadcom's stack. |
| 06:11.51 | lkthomas | I try my best to search around forum, no exact answer given at all |
| 06:12.10 | lkthomas | micorosft BT stack sucks |
| 06:12.19 | lkthomas | especially I am not using WM2003 SE |
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| 07:59.18 | misterxx | hi all |
| 08:01.42 | misterxx | Is there anyone who knows sthg about linux on tytn? |
| 08:02.53 | misterxx | hi ltxda |
| 08:08.38 | misterxx | none here? then bye |
| 08:12.49 | lkthomas | heh |
| 08:21.25 | lkthomas | actually, from which model of O2 machine which does not made by HTC ? |
| 08:28.58 | _law_ | BabelO: hi, should i include led support as module or should i place it directly into htcartemis.c ? |
| 08:29.03 | lkthomas | anyone still awake ? :) |
| 08:30.17 | BabelO | _law_ : hi, if we follow hh, in htcartemis.c there is only a led platform structure declaration that use generic omap led driver |
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| 09:30.06 | tester | hi all |
| 09:30.13 | tester | hi ltxda ltxda2 |
| 09:30.39 | tester | Is anyonethere at all? |
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| 09:48.55 | tester | hi lkthomas |
| 09:58.22 | lkthomas_ | hi |
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| 14:42.43 | BabelO | ~seen psolovsky |
| 14:42.44 | apt | i haven't seen 'psolovsky', BabelO |
| 14:42.47 | BabelO | ~seen cr2 |
| 14:42.48 | apt | cr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 48d 22h 21m 10s ago, saying: 'haret-trin.exe'. |
| 14:49.42 | BabelO | ~seen psokolovsky |
| 14:49.44 | apt | psokolovsky <n=psokolov@82.193.99.4> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 31d 16h 55m 21s ago, saying: 'BabelO: hi, prepared new patch?'. |
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| 17:39.46 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 17:39.53 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 17:40.00 | pH5 | any news on mmc? |
| 17:40.36 | BabelO | no just coming back from office now :) |
| 17:40.49 | BabelO | yesturday i had new clock settings |
| 17:40.52 | pH5 | I can connect via usb0 now (my host was missing rndis...), and I've got a partially working keyboard driver. |
| 17:41.20 | BabelO | did connecting after a delay ? |
| 17:41.57 | pH5 | much worse |
| 17:42.10 | pH5 | it hangs up itself |
| 17:42.30 | pH5 | not sure yet if it is just after some time or randomly or due to usb traffic |
| 17:42.33 | BabelO | yes me too but not with wizard image |
| 17:43.19 | pH5 | that's ugly :( |
| 17:43.26 | BabelO | ok, i try to dump correct clock setting now, yesturday my cpu was overclocked when i measure clock :( |
| 17:43.39 | pH5 | I saw that the typhoon patches define a different mmc_ck for omap730 |
| 17:43.41 | BabelO | pH5: best point is OTG support on this cpu |
| 17:43.56 | BabelO | pH5: ah, i didn't check that |
| 17:44.28 | pH5 | it didn't help me much though, it always locked up before I could log in via ssh and try to mount something |
| 17:44.49 | pH5 | same for i2c, I just can't test anything as long as I have that instability :( |
| 17:45.03 | BabelO | did you force mem=64M on command line ? |
| 17:46.48 | pH5 | no. I assumed part of the sdram is for the syren/arm7, I think haret only presents 48M to linux currently |
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| 17:57.47 | BabelO | pH5: yes there is a Fix for broken stack realclock = 400000 it is (ios->clock) for our kernel |
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| 18:22.13 | BabelO | pH5: this is clock setting on kernel enter http://pastebin.ca/674972 |
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| 18:24.00 | pH5 | BabelO: is this is after linux' own clock initialization? |
| 18:24.16 | pH5 | I have the same CKCTL and SYSST, didn't look for the rest yet. |
| 18:24.48 | pH5 | BabelO: omapfb works here, too. I just had to change the timing parameters. |
| 18:28.57 | BabelO | pH5: it is just before, for omapfb, do you need also to keep efb ? |
| 18:29.12 | BabelO | i need to change timing a little too |
| 18:31.35 | pH5 | hm. what happens when you turn off efb? |
| 18:32.48 | BabelO | pH5: it fail somewhere, never show tux :( i m quite sure i ve done a mistake when i integrate efb , i ve had lot of #if to compile without efb, but missing something :( |
| 18:36.04 | pH5 | maybe something to do with the virtual memory mapping that is set up in an efb #ifdef? |
| 18:36.57 | pH5 | if I could boot linux from the bootloader or from sd I'd just try to remove the efb pieces one by one, but right now rebooting through wince and haret is a bit slow. |
| 18:37.36 | BabelO | pH5: you are able to boot from boot loader with your tools ? |
| 18:38.32 | BabelO | ah i miss the "if" i could ... |
| 18:41.23 | BabelO | i2c_omap i2c_omap.1: bus 1 rev2.2 at 100 kHz |
| 18:41.23 | BabelO | i2c_adapter i2c-0: adapter [OMAP I2C adapter] registered |
| 18:41.44 | BabelO | i just change clock settings ti fit 201 Mhz |
| 18:42.18 | BabelO | i2c-core: driver [eeprom] registered |
| 18:42.18 | BabelO | i2c_adapter i2c-0: SMBus Quick command not supported, can't probe for chips |
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| 19:31.04 | pH5 | BabelO: can you share your i2c patch? I only manage to lock up the device whenever I insmod i2c-omap.ko |
| 19:33.16 | pH5 | if only i didn't have those hangups all the time |
| 19:33.29 | BabelO | http://pastebin.ca/675035 |
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| 19:34.18 | eddiemonge | hello |
| 19:34.21 | BabelO | pH5: it is a bad test from yesturday night, there a define OMAP_HACK at top of file, i just comment it out |
| 19:35.52 | BabelO | pH5: so it is not working :( |
| 19:36.27 | BabelO | i don't understand the clock setting i have after dump :( |
| 19:36.37 | BabelO | i use that at the moment { 201000000, 13000000, 201000000, 0x0506, 0x2fb3 }, /* 1/1/2/2/4/8 */ |
| 19:37.56 | BabelO | it seem it is just an interrupt problem now |
| 19:39.11 | BabelO | and my console did not hang since 5mn, it is for guiness book ;) |
| 19:39.17 | BabelO | hello eddiemonge |
| 19:46.05 | BabelO | pH5: my console is always running with this clock settings |
| 19:55.25 | eddiemonge | is there any work getting linux on a mogul? |
| 19:55.48 | eddiemonge | (titan) i see a memory dump on the status page but thats all |
| 19:57.07 | pH5 | BabelO: wow, that's good news. |
| 19:57.27 | pH5 | I've already heard about instabilities due to overclocking, but instabilities due to underclocking? |
| 19:57.40 | BabelO | eddiemonge: it is just memory dump no more :( |
| 19:58.13 | eddiemonge | thats a shame since i have an extra one just sitting in a box all ripe for testing |
| 19:58.22 | BabelO | pH5: we have 6506 for a register and it is really big ... it is strange |
| 19:58.54 | BabelO | pH5: but it hand if you start somthing like "top" |
| 19:59.05 | pH5 | :/ |
| 20:03.31 | dcordes | you guys talking about the omap kernel? |
| 20:05.42 | pH5 | dcordes: yup |
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| 20:06.11 | pH5 | hh.org + muru patch + artemis patch, actually. |
| 20:06.28 | pH5 | my linux-omap + typhoon patch kernel still doesn't boot |
| 20:09.46 | dcordes | so you gonna continue with the hh.org base or carry on with linux-omap? |
| 20:10.40 | pH5 | dcordes: ideally I'll carry on with both, syncing the differences |
| 20:10.58 | dcordes | so you get the best of both worlds :) |
| 20:11.03 | pH5 | I'm doing the same with my pxa device in hh.org and against the linus git tree. |
| 20:11.32 | dcordes | linus git is the official linux kernel right? |
| 20:11.42 | pH5 | right, that one |
| 20:12.00 | dcordes | what pxa device you working on there? |
| 20:12.15 | pH5 | magician |
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| 20:29.56 | BabelO | pH5: board-sx1 look like you say, KEYLIGHT on i2c bus |
| 20:33.10 | BabelO | pH5: another wuestion what arch_initcall(omap_init_devices) mean ? |
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| 20:35.39 | pH5 | BabelO: yes, looks like the sx1 has an external gpio chip for those things, too. |
| 20:36.40 | pH5 | BabelO: look at include/linux/init.h, the different initcall macros determine the link order |
| 20:37.20 | BabelO | pH5: ok, because i ll look into plat-omap/devices.c |
| 20:37.52 | pH5 | it's the same as module_init, but arch code is called earlier for built-in modules. |
| 20:38.03 | BabelO | ok |
| 20:38.40 | BabelO | pH5: i ve to check i2c irq then ;) |
| 20:39.15 | pH5 | yes please :) |
| 20:39.42 | BabelO | in code it is 4 + IH2_BASE |
| 20:41.54 | BabelO | yes i have IH2-4 in haretconsole |
| 20:42.26 | BabelO | also IH1-23 but it seem it is camera interrupt |
| 20:43.10 | pH5 | BabelO: yes, same here. that's the dma channel 3 interrupt, used for the camera. |
| 20:43.16 | pH5 | s/3/4/ |
| 20:44.17 | BabelO | yes it is linked to refresh rate when i turn camera to a light power there is more irq than in dark |
| 20:44.36 | pH5 | nice :) |
| 20:45.04 | pH5 | ambient light sensor by measuring interrupt rate ;) |
| 20:45.32 | BabelO | periodicaly i have IH1-4 only few interrupts .. |
| 20:45.45 | BabelO | yes a high cost light sensor :) |
| 20:47.32 | BabelO | pH5: i keep OMAP_I2C_SIZE to 0x3f, to sure problem come from here |
| 20:48.25 | BabelO | hmmmmm |
| 20:48.35 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.35 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.32 | pH5 | we don't have any information about scl/sda pin configuration (if it is configurable at all) on omap850 |
| 20:50.53 | BabelO | yes, always this mux.h :( |
| 20:51.02 | BabelO | i don't understand this part of code :( |
| 20:52.18 | pH5 | BabelO: no wonder, without documentation :( |
| 20:53.08 | pH5 | on pxa, some (many) gpios can be assigned alternate functions like in this example scl or sda lines. |
| 20:53.43 | pH5 | on omap those functions can even be connected to different pins (or ball points in the grid) via those muxing registers |
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| 20:54.44 | BabelO | pH5: ok, but omap730 is sligly different from other it have this special bit on IO CONF register |
| 21:01.28 | pH5 | yup, and the MODE_1/2 ones, whatever they mean |
| 21:02.03 | BabelO | don't know,i see them too with the comment line just before |
| 21:02.20 | BabelO | but there value are same than in wm6 for me |
| 21:04.08 | pH5 | if it's the same, I won't touch it :) |
| 21:05.12 | BabelO | I think he do all this thing because he boot typhoon or tornado from EOL not windows |
| 21:06.26 | BabelO | i think i really need to use IDA and testwm5 ffor dump |
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| 21:08.45 | BabelO | pH5: ok i try to dump i2c bus speed ;) |
| 21:09.02 | BabelO | 100 Khz ... |
| 21:17.19 | dark_reaper | hi all |
| 21:19.26 | BabelO | pH5: ok, trying to set force clock after init to their windows state ;) |
| 21:19.59 | dark_reaper | I would like to port Linux to a new PDA, the Mio P350, but I do not have the required skills to do that alone, I need help from someone who can guide me through the porting process |
| 21:20.27 | BabelO | hi dark_reaper |
| 21:20.44 | dark_reaper | hi |
| 21:20.44 | dark_reaper | is there someone who can help me? |
| 21:21.13 | BabelO | dark_reaper: you need basic information like kernel cpu, and after you have to use haret if cpu is ok |
| 21:21.52 | dark_reaper | ok, I know that the cpu model is a samsung s3c2440 |
| 21:22.38 | BabelO | ok so you can start playing with haret to know basic adress and also look at hh kernel, there is some samsung cpu support |
| 21:30.26 | pH5 | BabelO: does forcing the clock regs help any? |
| 21:31.00 | BabelO | i force the IDLECT1 and 2 but kernel did not boot then :( |
| 21:31.10 | BabelO | quite sure it is something like that |
| 21:31.48 | BabelO | i change lot of thing in clock?h to have correct boot :( i use kompare between wizard kernel and hh, but ... |
| 21:32.59 | dark_reaper | I found a manual about haret ( http://zap.eltrast.ru/en/haret.html ), but it seems outdated, do you know if I can find another guide somewhere else? |
| 21:34.35 | dark_reaper | Do I need to search for the basic address of the memory? |
| 21:35.30 | BabelO | dark_reaper: there is some basic function explain in WHATSNEWS file, it is more up to date |
| 21:35.49 | dark_reaper | ok, thank you |
| 21:36.29 | BabelO | dark_reaper: for basic adress, yes and you can look in s3c2440.h file for register adress and what they do |
| 21:36.53 | BabelO | basic funciton you need to start are watch gpios, watch irqs |
| 21:37.42 | BabelO | with command wi <seconds> for example wi 1, it trace action during 1 seconds, you see lot of irq and gpio switching to the screen |
| 21:38.04 | dark_reaper | ok, thank you very much :) |
| 21:39.16 | BabelO | to know what they do you have to switch off all before with ibit irqs <irq number> to mask irq and ibit gpios <gpio number> to mask gpio you don't want, |
| 21:52.44 | dark_reaper | I could try to do that, but I wouldn't even know what I'm doing... |
| 21:53.47 | BabelO | dark_reaper: ido you know what is a gpio ? |
| 21:54.15 | dark_reaper | if i must be sincere, no ^^' |
| 21:54.30 | BabelO | it is general pin input / ouput |
| 21:54.35 | dark_reaper | but I know that another person tried to install linux to a P550 (that is almost identical to the P350) |
| 21:54.53 | BabelO | some pin on cpu that switch on / off to power up device for example |
| 21:55.09 | dark_reaper | ok |
| 21:55.14 | BabelO | dark_reaper: if it is same cpu, you can try |
| 21:55.31 | BabelO | or it is general purpose don't know exactly ;) |
| 21:56.34 | dark_reaper | yes, it's the same cpu, and the only difference between the P350 and the P550 is that one has got wifi and bluetooth but not the irda, while the other model (mine) has only got the irda connection |
| 21:57.08 | BabelO | maybe you can try their kernel then |
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| 21:57.46 | dark_reaper | Are the gpios the same? Would everything work except for the irda? |
| 21:58.39 | dark_reaper | the person who tried to install linux to the P550 found everything needed, I think |
| 21:58.53 | dark_reaper | but he has a problem in running the kernel |
| 21:59.22 | pH5 | dark_reaper: if you've got the same lcd panel, same graphics chip if any, etc. as the p550, you should be able to use their kernel unchanged. in any case, it's probably a good starting point. |
| 21:59.23 | BabelO | don't know more :( |
| 21:59.46 | dark_reaper | I think they are the same... |
| 22:00.13 | dark_reaper | but does the kernel need some type of modification for every pda |
| 22:00.15 | dark_reaper | ? |
| 22:01.05 | BabelO | dark_reaper: yes sometimes, if cpu internal reference number is different or if LCD gpio are different because one is sony and other is philips |
| 22:01.10 | BabelO | timing is not the same |
| 22:01.13 | pH5 | dark_reaper: yes, because they all have different components (even if some parts are used on many pdas) |
| 22:01.45 | BabelO | pH5: just wait few seconds before going to bed, i test something ;) |
| 22:02.12 | pH5 | BabelO: good you'd say that, I'm really just about to pack up :) |
| 22:04.03 | dark_reaper | ok... so figuring out gpios and irqs is needed to find out the hardware connected to my pda... |
| 22:05.02 | BabelO | pH5: no :( doesn't work, then i download IDA ;) |
| 22:05.17 | pH5 | dark_reaper: or at least find out where it's connected to. it'd be good if you already knew what parts are in there (either from photos or from what is known about p550) |
| 22:05.23 | dcordes | is haret any usable on asus pdas? |
| 22:05.48 | pH5 | dcordes: are they all pxa? sure. |
| 22:05.49 | BabelO | dark_reaper: yes, or you can browse your windows directory for chipset name ( dll name ), it works very well with HTC |
| 22:06.06 | dcordes | pH5: what is pxa :x ? |
| 22:06.20 | dcordes | arm architecture? |
| 22:06.22 | sameo | dcordes: xscale |
| 22:06.22 | pH5 | or if that doesn't help, call strings on the bootloader / SPL.nb |
| 22:06.30 | sameo | dcordes: ARM based, yes |
| 22:06.33 | dcordes | ok |
| 22:06.56 | pH5 | dcordes: pxa are newer xscales, most recently pxa27x was all over the place before everybody started to use samsung and omap processors |
| 22:07.25 | dark_reaper | unfortunatly I can't find any hardware information about this pda on the net... now I'll try to look for the dlls, thank you for the tip! :) |
| 22:08.25 | dcordes | are there any howtos which describe the procedures of gaining hardware info on windows mobile using haret and other methods? |
| 22:09.03 | dcordes | I know I can telnet to pdas running haret but don't know how to get the info then |
| 22:12.37 | dark_reaper | i still have to watch irqs and gpios, but after finding them how can these informations help me? Do I have to modify the kernel to tell him how devices are connected to the cpu? |
| 22:12.41 | BabelO | dcordes: it is basic logoc looking at thing how they move, and also looking to cpu capabilities in header source file |
| 22:13.49 | BabelO | dark_reaper: yes, you can see some gpio moving when you do particular action like switching bt on / off |
| 22:14.15 | BabelO | and then report to source code in right order |
| 22:14.20 | BabelO | same for lcd |
| 22:16.10 | BabelO | there is some helper function in haret, you have to telnet to port 9999 and an other to port 9998 start wi 20 for example on one console and then start on other console the LCD command off /ON look at HELP command inside haret |
| 22:16.18 | dcordes | BabelO: that sounds very theoretically |
| 22:16.48 | BabelO | dark_reaper: after that you can see gpio related to LCD ON / OFF ;) |
| 22:16.53 | dcordes | I don't know how to look into header source file of windows mobile device |
| 22:17.25 | BabelO | dcordes: it is source file of linux kernel which have basic support for your cpu |
| 22:17.48 | pH5 | dark_reaper: and one thing you should do is to get a datasheet / dev manual of the s3c2440 to know where all the registers are, what parts are on the soc, etc. |
| 22:18.39 | BabelO | PH5 do you have IDA for linux, the demo version ? |
| 22:18.59 | pH5 | BabelO: no, my tool is objdump ;) |
| 22:19.22 | BabelO | pH5: i already try with, but don't understand switch i need |
| 22:19.31 | BabelO | it always say not a valid file |
| 22:19.55 | pH5 | if it's a wince PE file, you need the objdump from cegcc. |
| 22:20.07 | pH5 | if it's just any binary file, you need to force it with -b binary -m arm |
| 22:20.08 | BabelO | pH5: you use linux objdump or cegcc ? |
| 22:20.56 | BabelO | ahhh right it works |
| 22:21.23 | pH5 | BabelO: both work, it's just that the normal one understands elf headers, while the cegcc one understands wince pe headers. |
| 22:22.00 | dcordes | BabelO: since when does windows mobile have a linux kernel? |
| 22:22.01 | BabelO | pH5: ok i ve to look with that and found a downloadable version of testwm5 |
| 22:22.04 | dark_reaper | thank you, I downloaded the datasheet, tomorrow I will try to do something, thank you again for the help! :) Bye! |
| 22:22.40 | BabelO | dark_reaper: bye |
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| 22:25.40 | BabelO | pH5 i found this pof source ;) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279446&page=3 |
| 22:27.24 | dcordes | bye ppl and much success with omap |
| 22:27.32 | pH5 | later, dcordes |
| 22:27.40 | BabelO | bye dc |
| 22:29.02 | pH5 | BabelO: the one thing that I didn't find yet are linux tools to unpack the osrom file system image from those dumps. |
| 22:29.30 | BabelO | i read some perl tools in Blueangel wiki |
| 22:30.34 | pH5 | BabelO: yes, itsme's for dissassembling the dumps into sections and splitting up the spl etc. work well. but the part that unpacks the file system needs some perl module that just wraps some .dll file |
| 22:31.02 | BabelO | ah ok :(how they are doing cooking rom ? |
| 22:31.33 | BabelO | hmm WM6 on BA ;) |
| 22:31.39 | pH5 | most of those people are on windows pcs as I understand or use the win tools with wine. |
| 22:32.31 | pH5 | i used to wish that there was wm5/6 for magician, but now that I can boot linux from the bootloader, I just want to be able to boot linux from flash :) |
| 22:32.45 | BabelO | i found a .NET tools some time ago maybe it should work with mono ;) |
| 22:32.55 | pH5 | :) |
| 22:33.28 | BabelO | where testwm5 put data ? |
| 22:33.36 | BabelO | it is already done, strange |
| 22:33.39 | pH5 | \Storage, I think |
| 22:35.34 | BabelO | no, it save nothing :( |
| 22:37.46 | pH5 | maybe you could try to use pdocread.exe instead |
| 22:37.52 | pH5 | good night and good luck |
| 22:38.03 | BabelO | good night |
| 22:38.32 | BabelO | ~x jp en お休み |
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