| 00:01.19 | whoknowswhat | I just want to see this work after putting 2 days into trying to get it to run :) |
| 00:02.57 | Kevin2 | Whoa, that's weird. |
| 00:03.05 | Kevin2 | What type of phone do you have? |
| 00:03.16 | whoknowswhat | I am a noob |
| 00:03.22 | whoknowswhat | I get confused |
| 00:03.47 | whoknowswhat | and I had a problem with a lib preventing me from getting in here |
| 00:04.19 | whoknowswhat | ppc6700 |
| 00:04.26 | Kevin2 | Sprint? |
| 00:04.30 | whoknowswhat | yup |
| 00:06.38 | Kevin2 | Okay, I've confirmed that that zimage boots on my phone (xv6700 from Verizon). |
| 00:07.18 | whoknowswhat | could it be something wrong in my file system? |
| 00:07.24 | Kevin2 | The stuff on the sd card doesn't matter much at this point - you should see status from the kernel before it even tries the file system. |
| 00:08.01 | Kevin2 | Can you change your "default.txt" file and add a line that says "set kernelcrc 1"? |
| 00:08.17 | whoknowswhat | ok, one sec |
| 00:10.34 | Kevin2 | Also, which haret version are you using? |
| 00:12.05 | whoknowswhat | 4.8 |
| 00:14.46 | whoknowswhat | tags and kernel crc okay |
| 00:16.42 | whoknowswhat | it is sitting at Jumping to kernel |
| 00:16.49 | whoknowswhat | what should I see |
| 00:17.09 | Kevin2 | You should see that, and then you should see a whole bunch of kernel messages. |
| 00:17.24 | whoknowswhat | shortly after? |
| 00:17.34 | Kevin2 | A couple of seconds later. |
| 00:17.50 | whoknowswhat | any reason for it to hang? |
| 00:18.21 | Kevin2 | Okay - lets turn on logging. Create a file in the same directory as haret with the name "earlyharetlog.txt". Then rerun haret and try to boot into linux. |
| 00:18.39 | whoknowswhat | ok, one sec |
| 00:18.41 | Kevin2 | No, I don't know why it would hang. |
| 00:20.39 | BabelO | Kevin2: someone report that he have same problem with haret 4.8 and he try sucessfully with latest one if i remember well |
| 00:21.04 | Kevin2 | It'll probably hang again. After rebooting, you should see a file "haretlog.txt" in the same directory as haret. Take that and copy it onto the web. (Try pastebin.ca) |
| 00:21.27 | whoknowswhat | ok, one moment |
| 00:21.29 | Kevin2 | BabelO: haret-0.4.8 boots fine with that zimage on my phone. |
| 00:21.37 | BabelO | ok ;) |
| 00:24.31 | whoknowswhat | http://pastebin.ca/666295 |
| 00:24.58 | whoknowswhat | did I somehow compile the kernel wrong |
| 00:25.44 | whoknowswhat | or does that not matter since I have your zImage |
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| 00:29.38 | whoknowswhat | line 291 holds what I think is my problem |
| 00:31.25 | whoknowswhat | what do you think? |
| 00:33.00 | Kevin2 | No, that isn't a problem. |
| 00:33.10 | whoknowswhat | Ok |
| 00:33.26 | whoknowswhat | any idea what is |
| 00:33.31 | Kevin2 | Wow, that is weird - your log and my log look almost identical.. |
| 00:33.59 | Kevin2 | Do you have phone enabled, wifi enable, irda enabled, usb plugged in? Anything else distinctive that you are doing? |
| 00:34.22 | whoknowswhat | wifi enabled |
| 00:34.56 | Kevin2 | Anything else? |
| 00:35.04 | whoknowswhat | nope |
| 00:35.12 | Kevin2 | How about phone, irda, usb? |
| 00:35.19 | whoknowswhat | nope |
| 00:35.46 | Kevin2 | You have phone off (aka flight mode)? |
| 00:35.53 | whoknowswhat | nope |
| 00:36.20 | Kevin2 | You're going to need to be more descriptive. |
| 00:36.41 | whoknowswhat | Ok, on what |
| 00:36.51 | whoknowswhat | all I have on is wifi |
| 00:37.13 | Kevin2 | So the phone is in flight mode? |
| 00:37.24 | whoknowswhat | no, because wifi is on |
| 00:37.35 | whoknowswhat | wifi would be off in flight mode |
| 00:38.11 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. Latest wince firmware lets you use phone and wifi at same time. |
| 00:38.33 | whoknowswhat | How do I check my firmware? |
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| 00:39.34 | Kevin2 | Go to "settings" then hit the system tab, then click on about. |
| 00:40.38 | whoknowswhat | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.28 | Kevin2 | Okay, I have OS 5.1.195 (Build 14928.2.2.0). I doubt it matters much though. |
| 00:41.56 | whoknowswhat | ROM version 2.06.00 |
| 00:42.14 | Kevin2 | Can you try with wifi off. (I doubt it will have an impact.) |
| 00:43.26 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 00:43.28 | Kevin2 | Another useful test would be with it plugged in (to usb or wall). |
| 00:44.40 | whoknowswhat | ok will try that next |
| 00:45.06 | whoknowswhat | is there any way for me to update this phone? |
| 00:45.21 | Kevin2 | You can also try very latest haret - http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070816b.exe |
| 00:45.54 | Kevin2 | Sure, go to the sprint web site, and you should be able to find the pointer to the upgrade program. |
| 00:46.58 | whoknowswhat | looking at that too |
| 00:50.36 | Kevin2 | http://www.utstar.com/pcd/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=30&cid=2&mid=61&carrier=Sprint |
| 00:51.18 | whoknowswhat | i'll go there next |
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| 00:52.30 | Kevin2 | BTW, I don't think that upgrade will fix the boot. |
| 00:53.25 | whoknowswhat | hmm |
| 00:53.30 | huhlig | hey, is there a howto on making a bigger filesystem for the htcs to boot from |
| 00:53.32 | whoknowswhat | what should we try next? |
| 00:54.20 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. I'm not sure. |
| 00:54.38 | Kevin2 | You might want to try having it plugged in (in case this is a power thing). |
| 00:55.25 | Kevin2 | Otherwise, I'll have to think about it. I'm not sure what would be different enough to cause the boot to fail.. |
| 00:56.39 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 00:56.43 | whoknowswhat | one min |
| 00:58.34 | whoknowswhat | it is still stuck there |
| 00:58.57 | whoknowswhat | I will try to use the newest haret |
| 01:01.53 | whoknowswhat | Ok, this is new |
| 01:02.12 | whoknowswhat | With the newest haret the screen goes white |
| 01:03.11 | Kevin2 | Stuck at white? |
| 01:03.30 | whoknowswhat | yup |
| 01:03.44 | whoknowswhat | I am going to try with it pluged in |
| 01:03.54 | whoknowswhat | see if it is a power issue |
| 01:05.01 | Kevin2 | Do you run a linux host? Can you telnet into the phone? |
| 01:06.30 | whoknowswhat | I am running fedora 7 |
| 01:07.06 | whoknowswhat | and I do not know how to telnet well |
| 01:07.20 | whoknowswhat | I did it once like 2 years ago |
| 01:07.50 | whoknowswhat | how would I telnet into the phone, it is worth a shot. |
| 01:08.49 | Kevin2 | Download http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haretconsole-20070821.tar.gz to your host and unpack it somewhere. |
| 01:08.58 | Kevin2 | Then go into the haretconsole directory and run: console <ip> |
| 01:09.06 | Kevin2 | where <ip> is the wifi ip of your phone. |
| 01:09.24 | whoknowswhat | ok, give me a few mins |
| 01:09.32 | Kevin2 | Oh, and you need to press the "listen" button while running haret. |
| 01:09.51 | Kevin2 | BTW, did you get the same white screen a second time? |
| 01:11.33 | whoknowswhat | nope |
| 01:13.47 | whoknowswhat | how do I unpack a tar.gz |
| 01:14.13 | Kevin2 | tar xfz haretconsole-20070821.tar.gz |
| 01:15.35 | whoknowswhat | after unpack do I need to do anything else |
| 01:16.04 | Kevin2 | No, just "cd haretconsole" and "./console <ip>" |
| 01:16.47 | Kevin2 | Do you have anything that can read IRDA? |
| 01:16.54 | whoknowswhat | ok, one min |
| 01:20.39 | whoknowswhat | ======== Connecting to haret ======== |
| 01:20.40 | whoknowswhat | Minimal virtual address: 00010000, maximal virtual address: 7FFFFFFF |
| 01:20.40 | whoknowswhat | Detected machine Apache/PXA27x (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='PA10A1') |
| 01:20.40 | whoknowswhat | CPU is Intel ARM arch 5TE revision 0 product 17 stepping 7 running in system mode |
| 01:20.40 | whoknowswhat | Enter 'HELP' for a short command summary. |
| 01:21.15 | whoknowswhat | I have HaRET(1)# on screen |
| 01:22.48 | whoknowswhat | what do I do? |
| 01:22.55 | Kevin2 | Type in: pd 0x0a000000 32 |
| 01:23.34 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 01:24.02 | whoknowswhat | what should happen? |
| 01:24.30 | Kevin2 | You should get info back - that queries an area of memory with info on your "egpio" chip. |
| 01:24.54 | whoknowswhat | how long should it take? |
| 01:25.03 | Kevin2 | It should be instant |
| 01:25.39 | whoknowswhat | what if it is not |
| 01:25.48 | whoknowswhat | my phone screen went blank |
| 01:25.51 | Kevin2 | bad wifi connection? |
| 01:26.06 | whoknowswhat | No, great connection |
| 01:26.12 | Kevin2 | Oh, if you phone suspends, you can't type commands in. Just unsuspend, and it should come back alive. |
| 01:26.23 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 01:26.44 | whoknowswhat | it won't come back |
| 01:26.54 | whoknowswhat | it went blank when I sent the command |
| 01:27.13 | whoknowswhat | Might I need to reformat my phone back to factory spec? |
| 01:27.39 | Kevin2 | "factory spec"? Have you customized it in some way? |
| 01:28.17 | whoknowswhat | No, it has just been acting strange since I uninstalled the .net platform I downloaded from microsoft |
| 01:28.40 | whoknowswhat | But no customizations |
| 01:29.47 | whoknowswhat | I just wonder if this is because of me uninstallign the .net platform when I no longer wanted it |
| 01:29.52 | Kevin2 | Well, you can install the update from ut starcom - that effectively wipes the phone clean. However, I don't see why that would affect linux or haret. |
| 01:30.01 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 01:30.07 | Kevin2 | I don't see how it could, but who knows. |
| 01:30.09 | BabelO | Kevin2: just for information pH5 and me just add two new HTC to mach-types |
| 01:30.46 | whoknowswhat | It was just a guess |
| 01:31.18 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Okay, can you send a patch for http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/haret/src/mach/machlist.txt |
| 01:31.24 | whoknowswhat | I really want to see this work so I can see if there is enough power in the phone to run a port of some software I am planning |
| 01:32.09 | Kevin2 | whoknowswhat: You need linux on the phone? |
| 01:32.17 | BabelO | Kevin2: ok i ll do it |
| 01:32.30 | whoknowswhat | I have a upnp server open source project I am planning, and I really want to be able to run my server on the phone. |
| 01:32.47 | whoknowswhat | Yes, it is mostly a linux project. |
| 01:33.17 | Kevin2 | whoknowswhat: Can you reboot your phone and rerun that command in haretconsole? |
| 01:33.27 | whoknowswhat | yup, one sec |
| 01:34.38 | whoknowswhat | I need linux on the phone, and need to have a clear method to hand out to my devs |
| 01:35.28 | Kevin2 | Okay. Make sure you are running latest haret for these tests. |
| 01:36.03 | Kevin2 | whoknowswhat: I'm quite surprised it doesn't boot for you out of the box. I've seen several others boot the kernel without issue. |
| 01:38.05 | whoknowswhat | 0a000000 | 0138002c c2fe0000 0138002c c2fe0000 | ,.8.....,.8..... |
| 01:38.05 | whoknowswhat | 0a000010 | 0138002c c2fe0000 0138002c c2fe0000 | ,.8.....,.8..... |
| 01:38.16 | whoknowswhat | is what I get from telnet |
| 01:39.24 | Kevin2 | Okay, one sec. |
| 01:39.45 | whoknowswhat | yup |
| 01:40.43 | Kevin2 | Are you plugged in right now? |
| 01:41.01 | whoknowswhat | yup |
| 01:42.02 | Kevin2 | Okay, and you have it on AC instead of usb right? |
| 01:42.12 | whoknowswhat | yup |
| 01:42.21 | Kevin2 | Run: watch gpios |
| 01:43.01 | whoknowswhat | want me to pastebin it? |
| 01:43.07 | Kevin2 | Yeah |
| 01:45.54 | whoknowswhat | um, it said I forged something and lock me out for 14 mins on pastebin.com |
| 01:46.05 | whoknowswhat | !?! |
| 01:46.11 | Kevin2 | Use pastebin.ca? |
| 01:46.17 | whoknowswhat | yeah |
| 01:46.26 | whoknowswhat | I did |
| 01:46.35 | Kevin2 | Weird, I've never seen that before. |
| 01:46.43 | whoknowswhat | it said I forged my entry |
| 01:47.04 | whoknowswhat | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.41 | whoknowswhat | lol |
| 01:47.51 | Kevin2 | You can try pastebin.com |
| 01:48.00 | whoknowswhat | pastebin.ca is out of the picture for me right now |
| 01:48.09 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 01:49.13 | whoknowswhat | http://pastebin.com/d5312c528 |
| 01:49.31 | whoknowswhat | pastebin.ca got serious on me... 48 min ban |
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| 01:51.06 | Kevin2 | Can you try running "wi 1". You should see a bunch of CPLD13 messages. |
| 01:51.22 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 01:52.54 | Kevin2 | Also, I pushed http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070821.exe (just a later rev - wont help with booting). |
| 01:53.22 | whoknowswhat | http://pastebin.com/d2bf8a090 |
| 01:53.52 | whoknowswhat | ok, so that is newer than the last you sent? |
| 01:54.07 | Kevin2 | Okay, you still have logging on. Remove the earlyharetlog.txt file. |
| 01:54.29 | Kevin2 | Yes, it is my latest daily build. Has some more diagnostic info - but no changes to linux boot code. |
| 01:54.48 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 01:55.01 | whoknowswhat | I will get that on there real quick |
| 01:58.08 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 01:58.13 | whoknowswhat | on and in telnet |
| 01:59.08 | Kevin2 | Okay, did you clear earlyharetlog.txt? |
| 01:59.18 | whoknowswhat | no |
| 01:59.22 | whoknowswhat | want me to? |
| 01:59.32 | Kevin2 | Yeah, exit out, clear the file, and enter back in. |
| 02:00.28 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 02:01.31 | whoknowswhat | ready to go |
| 02:01.35 | Kevin2 | one sec |
| 02:01.38 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 02:03.38 | Kevin2 | We're going to trace a chip on the phone - to verify its behavior. I'm going to run the trace first on mine to make sure the commands are correct.. |
| 02:03.49 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 02:03.55 | whoknowswhat | sounds great |
| 02:05.42 | Kevin2 | HaRET(1)# ibit IRQS 205 |
| 02:05.42 | Kevin2 | HaRET(2)# addlist mmutrace 0xaee00010 |
| 02:05.42 | Kevin2 | HaRET(3)# addlist mmutrace 0xaee00004 |
| 02:05.42 | Kevin2 | HaRET(4)# addlist mmutrace 0xaee0001c |
| 02:05.42 | Kevin2 | HaRET(5)# wi 10 |
| 02:07.41 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 02:07.53 | whoknowswhat | and add them all to one pastebin? |
| 02:07.59 | Kevin2 | Yes |
| 02:09.33 | whoknowswhat | ok, it is running |
| 02:12.11 | whoknowswhat | http://pastebin.com/d42f1d1b1 |
| 02:15.11 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. Looks like you still have logging on. (All those MMC events are disk writes.) No big deal. |
| 02:15.31 | whoknowswhat | would booting it through telnet hmm |
| 02:15.42 | whoknowswhat | work? |
| 02:16.00 | Kevin2 | You can run "unlog" to turn off logging from the haretconsole. |
| 02:16.09 | Kevin2 | You don't need to repost - I have the info I need. |
| 02:18.17 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 02:19.46 | Kevin2 | Well, you have the chip I was looking for. I'm really confused. I think the next step is going to be to compile a stripped down kernel. One without wifi and all the bells and whistles. |
| 02:20.19 | Kevin2 | Also, do you have irda? With irda we can setup to get kernel boot messages. |
| 02:20.55 | whoknowswhat | irda is the infrared? |
| 02:20.59 | Kevin2 | yes |
| 02:21.20 | whoknowswhat | I don't have anything to connect to it, but it is on the phone |
| 02:22.17 | Kevin2 | Okay. |
| 02:23.08 | Kevin2 | It is getting late here, so I'm going to have to call it a night. As above, the next step will be to rebuild the kernel in a stripped down mode. |
| 02:23.32 | whoknowswhat | Okay, thank you for your help |
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| 07:58.51 | _law_ | develneube1, did you have success with you htc phone? |
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| 11:04.42 | polk | hi boys |
| 11:05.33 | polky | i've a htc bluenagel in my hands and i wish to make a network, by wireless, with my pc that run under linux |
| 11:06.22 | polky | ... but i've tried a quite long time but i can't make this network |
| 11:07.47 | polky | ... (under windowz seem to be everythink ok) but underlinux no ... i've a inprocomm ipn 2220 that's supported since ndiswrapper1-4r2 |
| 11:07.51 | polky | please help |
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| 14:02.34 | okias | Hi, im trying cross compile kernel for wizard. I need help: arm system: TI OMAP, OMAP core type: OMAP730? Wizard have OMAP850... |
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| 14:19.54 | okias | BabelO: Hi :-) |
| 14:20.09 | BabelO | hi okias |
| 14:20.48 | BabelO | iwmxt is some aditionnal instruction set |
| 14:20.53 | okias | BabelO: i trying crosscompile kernel for wizard, but OMAP core type is only OMAP730, no OMAP850 :-( |
| 14:26.17 | BabelO | okias: yes only omap 730 is present, there are really close |
| 14:27.28 | okias | BabelO: and i cant find this file: /arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcuniversal/htcuniversal_ts.c :-( support for TouchScreen(Wizard have same chip) |
| 14:29.41 | BabelO | okias: yes, look at handhelds.org cvs http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcuniversal/ |
| 14:33.47 | okias | hmm, i need only this one driver.. |
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| 14:45.55 | okias | ;-( arm-iwmmxt-linux-gnueabi-ld: no machine record defined :-( |
| 14:46.13 | BabelO | okias, yes, same than me yesturday |
| 14:46.25 | BabelO | which cvs do you take ? |
| 14:47.20 | BabelO | okias, this message say you have no MACHINE_START macro called |
| 14:48.59 | okias | i using mvista git.. |
| 14:52.15 | BabelO | okias: check your makefile in arm/arch/mach-omap1, to me sure that htcwizard.c is called |
| 14:54.39 | sameo_ | BabelO: ever used the ds2760 battery driver on the htcuniversal ? |
| 14:54.45 | okias | no.. |
| 14:58.33 | BabelO | sameo_: yes universal use standard ds2760 driver |
| 14:59.37 | sameo_ | BabelO: but from hh.org kernels, it's not declared as a platform device in htcuniversal.c. Any idea why ? |
| 15:00.29 | BabelO | sameo_: ds2760 is declared in htcuniversal_power2.c, now with new api it is just one line ;) |
| 15:03.06 | okias | BabelO: htcwizard.c isnt called |
| 15:03.54 | BabelO | okias: if it is mvista git maybe it is another naming like board-htc-wizard, just check the directory |
| 15:05.54 | okias | BabelO: nothing... |
| 15:06.20 | BabelO | okias: in menuconfig you select the wizard ?, so it is somewhere |
| 15:06.41 | okias | no.. |
| 15:06.41 | BabelO | okias: what is your command line to checkout mvista git, i can try ;) |
| 15:07.22 | okias | i dont remember command :-D |
| 15:07.37 | okias | git "address..."? |
| 15:07.54 | BabelO | okias : yes, but the adress ? |
| 15:08.15 | okias | BabelO: moment ;-) |
| 15:08.21 | BabelO | sameo_: which device are you working on ? |
| 15:08.32 | sameo_ | BabelO: htcuniversal... |
| 15:08.50 | BabelO | sameo_: but it is already working with current kernel |
| 15:09.02 | sameo_ | BabelO: even with the new power_supply class, the ds2760 probe routine never gets called... |
| 15:09.49 | BabelO | sameo_: you select all correct option ? or use the htcuniverstat_static_defconfig ? |
| 15:10.23 | sameo_ | BabelO: htcuniversal_defconfig |
| 15:11.03 | BabelO | sameo_: not sure htcuniversal_defconfig is up to date, try htcuniversal_static_defconfig |
| 15:11.25 | sameo_ | BabelO: ok. |
| 15:11.38 | okias | BabelO: git://source.mvista.com/git/linux-omap-2.6 |
| 15:11.52 | BabelO | okias thanks i ll checkout |
| 15:14.58 | okias | BabelO: how can i update my downloaded git? |
| 15:16.33 | BabelO | okias: i don't know git commandmaybe try checkout ? i use clone command actually |
| 15:17.06 | sameo_ | okias: git pull |
| 15:17.20 | okias | fatal: Not a git repository |
| 15:17.57 | okias | git pull git://source.mvista.com/git/linux-omap-2.6.git |
| 15:18.46 | sameo_ | okias: git pull only |
| 15:18.57 | sameo_ | no need for URL once you have cloned. |
| 15:19.21 | okias | thx :-) |
| 15:19.45 | okias | okias@david:~/kernel$ cd linux-omap-2.6/okias@david:~/kernel/linux-omap-2.6$ git pull :-) working ;-) |
| 15:42.08 | Marex | hi okias ... are you the same guy that commented the wiki editing article on root.cz ? |
| 15:43.32 | okias | Marex: :-D yes :-D |
| 15:44.03 | Marex | :D |
| 15:44.10 | Marex | okias, join #cz ;-) |
| 15:44.12 | okias | Marex: no koukam, ze ty taky :-D |
| 15:44.49 | Marex | okias, they wont like different language here I suppose ... ;) |
| 15:45.06 | Marex | okias, and yea, I replied :D |
| 15:45.36 | Marex | BabelO, #cz is czech channel ;-) |
| 15:45.58 | BabelO | Marex: yes, i have a autojoin script ;) |
| 15:46.11 | Marex | hehe |
| 15:47.07 | Marex | okias, so as I see you have some handheld ? cool :) |
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| 16:03.47 | BabelO | okias: you miis a patch for wizard on top of mvista git |
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| 16:36.17 | whoknowswhat | Kevin2: Are you on? |
| 16:38.43 | whoknowswhat | BabelO |
| 16:38.51 | whoknowswhat | how about you? |
| 16:39.26 | whoknowswhat | bbl |
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| 16:51.17 | whoknowswhat | BabelO: Yesterday when we set up that arm tool, I put it in a location that needed root access. I am putting the tool in a user home directory to cross compile the kernel without an SU. My question is, How do I remove the old PATH ? Do I just remove the previous directories used for it, or is there more to it? |
| 16:57.41 | BabelO | hi whoknowswhat |
| 16:58.05 | BabelO | whoknowswhat: you don't need anything else, just remove the directoriy |
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| 17:01.46 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 17:02.10 | pH5 | hej BabelO, how are things? |
| 17:02.27 | whoknowswhat | BabelO: Ok, Thanks :) |
| 17:02.28 | BabelO | my fresh kernel just boot now with a correct OMAP850 for cpu |
| 17:03.06 | BabelO | all my problems come from clock.c, there is a new function that clean unused clock, but some clock are used ;) |
| 17:03.24 | pH5 | yay |
| 17:03.32 | BabelO | now i have a small problem with usb otg |
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| 17:06.49 | dcordes | pH5: you around? |
| 17:07.10 | pH5 | dcordes: はい |
| 17:07.41 | dcordes | pH5: muy bien. Is OE gsmd for wizard working? |
| 17:08.11 | pH5 | dcordes: you could be the first to try |
| 17:08.36 | dcordes | heh good news |
| 17:08.46 | dcordes | unofortunately I have no wizard myself |
| 17:08.51 | dcordes | only a friend of mine has a prophet |
| 17:08.59 | dcordes | which is very similar to wizard afaik |
| 17:09.17 | pH5 | same deal, once anybody gets it to work, it'll automatically work on all omap850 phones (with some configuration file editing) |
| 17:09.22 | okias | i have wizard ;-) |
| 17:09.39 | whoknowswhat | BabelO: Are there any commands I can use in a terminal to delete all files and folders in a directory? |
| 17:09.53 | whoknowswhat | rm and rmdir is taking forever |
| 17:10.06 | dcordes | rm -r whoknowswhat |
| 17:10.06 | whoknowswhat | with th * of course |
| 17:10.07 | pH5 | whoknowswhat: rm -r |
| 17:10.13 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 17:10.20 | whoknowswhat | thanks!! |
| 17:10.23 | okias | whoknowswhat: rm * -rf |
| 17:10.38 | BabelO | or rm -r -f * |
| 17:10.39 | BabelO | lol |
| 17:10.47 | dcordes | or rm -rf * |
| 17:10.57 | okias | or rm / -rf :-D |
| 17:11.03 | dcordes | noooooo |
| 17:11.07 | whoknowswhat | lmao |
| 17:11.35 | dcordes | pH5: you don't have a prophet available, do you? |
| 17:12.01 | okias | :-D no just kidding :-D |
| 17:12.06 | pH5 | dcordes: no. I hope to hold a herald in my hands soon, but currently I'm still omap850-less |
| 17:12.56 | dcordes | pH5: do you want me to gain information on the prophet? |
| 17:15.28 | pH5 | dcordes: if you have that possibility, I won't say no ;) |
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| 17:15.55 | pH5 | comparison tables for those phones as we have them for the pxa machines on the xda-developers wiki would be nice. |
| 17:16.00 | pH5 | and of course gpio lists, etc. |
| 17:17.44 | dcordes | pH5: how could I gain that info? |
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| 17:18.35 | dcordes | hi goxboxlive |
| 17:18.52 | goxboxlive | hi dcordes |
| 17:19.05 | pH5 | dcordes: by running haret on the device, connecting to it via usb network or wlan, and running some tracing commands on the console while 'doing stuff' with the different hardware components. |
| 17:19.07 | pH5 | hi goxboxlive |
| 17:19.18 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 17:21.30 | pH5 | goxboxlive: have you tried any kernel after 2.6.21 on universal? |
| 17:22.08 | goxboxlive | pH5: |
| 17:22.09 | whoknowswhat | hello goxboxlive |
| 17:22.10 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 17:22.14 | goxboxlive | hi' |
| 17:23.02 | goxboxlive | pH5: But what do you exactly mean? Do you mean the defconfig static in OE? I am not using that one. It doesnt boot |
| 17:23.36 | pH5 | oh wait, I'm confused. universal uses the asic3 mmc controller, right? |
| 17:23.50 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 17:23.56 | pH5 | I was just asking because some time after .21 mainline broke the pxamci driver |
| 17:24.37 | goxboxlive | ok, i c. |
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| 17:26.35 | BabelO | pH5: what is the replacement for struct pt_regs *r, i forget it :( |
| 17:26.38 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 17:27.32 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 17:27.32 | pH5 | BabelO: for ISRs? just drop it. |
| 17:28.21 | BabelO | pH5: it is for omap_udc, so it is ok, they replace it by void |
| 17:28.48 | dcordes | pH5: does haret dump the ram then while you "do stuff" ? |
| 17:30.16 | pH5 | dcordes: haret can do all kinds of tracing. among them watching certain memory locations, gpios or irqs. |
| 17:43.15 | dcordes | pH5: I will try and get that phone to my place to try an angstrom i'll build for wizard and to gain info with haret |
| 17:43.50 | dcordes | I already tried to explain to the guy who owns the phone how to hook up with telnet but he didn't manage |
| 17:44.00 | pH5 | dcordes: cool :) |
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| 17:49.35 | dcordes | pH5: do you think there will be a chance for a wizard angstrom image to boot on prophet? |
| 17:54.20 | pH5 | dcordes: depending on how similar they really are, yes |
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| 18:01.45 | dcordes | pH5: how can I start an openmoko session when I installed task-openmoko-ui |
| 18:02.20 | pH5 | doesn't it start by default? |
| 18:02.28 | dcordes | wait I will try |
| 18:02.44 | pH5 | I thought whatever provides /etc/matchbox/session is part of that task package's dependencies |
| 18:02.59 | dcordes | hm no it is kicking me to gpe login screen |
| 18:03.26 | pH5 | and after you login? |
| 18:03.30 | dcordes | gpe |
| 18:03.43 | pH5 | openmoko doesn't have a login screen because they use xserver-nodm instead of gpe-dm |
| 18:03.50 | dcordes | hm |
| 18:03.57 | dcordes | I hoped I could try openmoko on the zaurus |
| 18:04.04 | pH5 | I've never tried to install gpe and openmoko in parallel. |
| 18:04.08 | dcordes | obviously it is not asking for gsmd0 anymore |
| 18:04.08 | pH5 | dcordes: but you can try! |
| 18:04.15 | dcordes | how? |
| 18:04.17 | pH5 | question is just how :) |
| 18:04.22 | dcordes | heh |
| 18:04.36 | dcordes | how can I install everything with openmoko in ipkg? |
| 18:04.39 | dcordes | * not working :( |
| 18:06.57 | dcordes | pH5: error: openmoko-session2 wants to install file /etc/matchbox/session But blabla by gpe-session-scripts? |
| 18:07.12 | goxboxlive | dcordes: have you tried ipkg -install task-openmoko ? |
| 18:07.42 | dcordes | nope but the above package seems like it is providing the session login |
| 18:07.48 | dcordes | any idea now how I can get "dual login" ? |
| 18:08.00 | dcordes | would be interesting for openmoko people who want to try GPE |
| 18:08.34 | pH5 | dcordes: for that you'd have to add multiple session support to gpedm or some other dm. |
| 18:08.57 | pH5 | for now all you can do is move /etc/matchbox/session out of the way and overwrite it with the one from openmoko-session2 |
| 18:09.16 | dcordes | alright |
| 18:09.19 | pH5 | (ipkg -force-overwrite) |
| 18:09.27 | dcordes | k |
| 18:10.53 | goxboxlive | pH5: i'm checking mtn diff. But i cant see anything that should bother openmoko UI from starting. Have you done a mtn diff ? |
| 18:11.30 | dcordes | oh lol |
| 18:11.33 | pH5 | wait, let me do one |
| 18:11.38 | goxboxlive | good |
| 18:14.12 | dcordes | so after I installed openmoko-session2 overwriting the old session file, I get into gpe loginscreen after X restart. after logging in, I see the date/time gpe setup with _huge_ gtk buttons, and a "windowed" gpe loginscreen in the background. after closing date/time setup and clicking close button of gpe-login "window" x restarts and kicks back to gpe login |
| 18:16.01 | dcordes | now I tried logging in as root and got into a "today" window with huge buttons- all gpe style but somehow similar to the moko ui |
| 18:16.25 | goxboxlive | This is cool: Soccer game going on on tv now: Norway vs Argentina : 2-0 : 54 min. :-) |
| 18:17.18 | dcordes | pH5: I guess I'm lacking some packages, right? |
| 18:18.17 | pH5 | go norway! :) |
| 18:19.11 | pH5 | dcordes: probably. openmoko-theme-standard2 installed? |
| 18:19.39 | pH5 | but aside from the visuals, that today window is the new openmoko ui, basically. |
| 18:19.49 | pH5 | (plus dialer and contacts, for now) |
| 18:20.11 | dcordes | I see |
| 18:22.13 | dcordes | ok looks pretty nice |
| 18:22.37 | dcordes | except of the window frames |
| 18:22.42 | dcordes | from gpe |
| 18:22.52 | dcordes | I guess they're not supposed to be there, are they pH5 ? |
| 18:23.19 | pH5 | not really :) |
| 18:23.53 | dcordes | ooh that kinetik scrolling is damn slow on my z |
| 18:24.06 | dcordes | but nice eyecandy! |
| 18:24.47 | dcordes | pH5: there are some icons missing. Any idea which packages left? |
| 18:25.23 | pH5 | openmoko-icon-theme-standard2 |
| 18:26.52 | dcordes | oh no I managed to crash the scroll functionallity |
| 18:27.16 | dcordes | I think the zaurus is having problems processing all that input |
| 18:28.25 | dcordes | pH5: any idea why I can't login with any user but root? |
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| 18:40.18 | pH5 | dcordes: no idea, but openmoko doesn't use user logins, everything is root there :/ |
| 18:40.20 | pH5 | bbiab |
| 18:41.04 | dcordes | everything is root in openmoko? is that a good thing? |
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| 18:44.47 | _law_ | hi all |
| 18:44.52 | dcordes | hi _law_ |
| 18:44.58 | _law_ | BabelO: any omap news? |
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| 18:55.28 | dcordes | hey again pH5 |
| 18:55.35 | dcordes | openmoko ui2 is a fine thing! |
| 18:55.54 | pH5 | hey, had to reflash my wrt54g. |
| 18:56.11 | pH5 | yup, looks promising |
| 18:56.26 | dcordes | er is that dlink? what you using? angstrom? |
| 18:56.27 | BabelO | _law_: yes i can boot now, but still some problem with usb ether |
| 18:56.56 | dcordes | what is providing window decorations in gpe? |
| 18:58.04 | pH5 | dcordes: linksys, on that one plain old openwrt. ångström on pdas and phones for me |
| 18:58.07 | dcordes | ah must be matchbox-wm |
| 18:58.46 | pH5 | BabelO: do you boot into ui already? |
| 18:59.18 | BabelO | pH5: i think i can , vsfb works fine ;) |
| 18:59.32 | pH5 | :)) |
| 18:59.44 | BabelO | pH5: one usb is ok i have to try omap fb |
| 19:01.21 | BabelO | pH5: any idea why usb freeze just after HOST MAC XXXXXXXXX ? |
| 19:02.22 | pH5 | no, I'm afraid of usb code :P |
| 19:02.58 | BabelO | me too now ;) |
| 19:03.20 | dcordes | how can I get rid of those window borders? |
| 19:03.53 | pH5 | dcordes: you need to find out how to change the matchbox theme to the one that is supplied with openmoko-theme-standard2 |
| 19:04.33 | dcordes | oh with look and feel tab of gpe i guess |
| 19:04.39 | dcordes | thought those borders were just removed |
| 19:05.17 | dcordes | yay those are usable touch buttons :) |
| 19:06.18 | _law_ | BabelO: how did you fix it? |
| 19:06.25 | dcordes | is there anything like matchbox-panel to have tray icons like for pidgin or gaim? |
| 19:06.40 | dcordes | or is there any equivalent in moko ui? |
| 19:07.00 | BabelO | _law_: look at clock.c and .h ;) |
| 19:07.06 | _law_ | BabelO: i tried you apply the omap1 patch from muru.org, but it did apply to the hh.org kernel.. |
| 19:08.02 | BabelO | in .c you have a struct about unused clock, it seem that new, just comment it before we found why |
| 19:08.08 | pH5 | dcordes: I believe matchbox-panel2 doesn't support tray icons (yet?). |
| 19:08.39 | BabelO | _law_: it applied for me, just two failed in makefile |
| 19:08.49 | whoknowswhat | BabelO: Can you suggest some partition management software I can prepare my sd card with. I used Gparted with this format, but I wonder if there is better. |
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| 19:09.16 | _law_ | BabelO: ok it think i had the same problem.. |
| 19:09.35 | dcordes | pH5: all that *2 stuff... is that all based on the new gpe 2? |
| 19:10.19 | _law_ | BabelO: omap1_clk_disable_unused in clock.c ? |
| 19:10.43 | pH5 | dcordes: no, it's just to differentiate from the older (now scrapped) openmoko ui |
| 19:10.47 | BabelO | _law_: yes you have a struct that call it |
| 19:21.15 | whoknowswhat | Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can use other than gparted to prepare my sd card for linux with a card reader in Fedora 7? |
| 19:21.53 | ketrox | whoknowswhat fdisk :D |
| 19:21.59 | ketrox | fdisck* |
| 19:23.25 | whoknowswhat | ok, so I use fdisck ?because fdisk gives a command not found |
| 19:24.38 | ketrox | no it's fdisk sorry |
| 19:24.44 | whoknowswhat | ok |
| 19:25.07 | whoknowswhat | bash: fdisk: command not found |
| 19:25.15 | whoknowswhat | what do I need to install? |
| 19:25.26 | whoknowswhat | fdisk? |
| 19:25.27 | whoknowswhat | lol |
| 19:26.02 | okias | "sudo fdisk" try |
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| 19:26.19 | whoknowswhat | tried it as su |
| 19:27.22 | okias | cfdisk ? |
| 19:27.39 | whoknowswhat | nope |
| 19:27.55 | whoknowswhat | I am using fedora 7 |
| 19:31.07 | whoknowswhat | what would I install to obtain the command fdisk or cfdisk |
| 19:32.47 | dcordes | fdisk is always there man |
| 19:32.58 | whoknowswhat | Odd |
| 19:33.16 | whoknowswhat | I am unable to use it in the terminal |
| 19:33.28 | whoknowswhat | not even as root |
| 19:55.22 | BabelO | i hate usb :( |
| 19:56.11 | BabelO | _law_: did you try it ? |
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| 20:36.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive: any openmoko news ? |
| 20:37.45 | goxboxlive | BabelO: images ? or phone? |
| 20:38.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: images ;) |
| 20:38.53 | goxboxlive | oh, i have one i builded yesterday. It works just fine with universal, but not with magician. |
| 20:39.33 | goxboxlive | But pH5 has it working so i guess it has to be a bug in my system (even though i cant see any diffs form the OE repo) |
| 20:39.47 | goxboxlive | pH5: did you do a mtn diff |
| 20:46.57 | pH5 | goxboxlive: http://en.pastebin.ca/667242 |
| 20:47.47 | pH5 | hm, I should do this from time to time, reminds me of all the unfinished things. |
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| 20:59.10 | TimRiker | what phone has the best linux port at present? what works? ie: calling? touch screen? camera? storage cards? power management? ie: suspend/resume? what about extended things like cpu speed and voltage scaling? thoughts? where to start? is there a faq? |
| 20:59.21 | BabelO | hi TimRiker |
| 21:00.01 | BabelO | TimRiker: you have many choice, free and other ;) |
| 21:00.19 | TimRiker | everything on http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones says "work in progress" |
| 21:00.38 | BabelO | Magician and Universal works under linux Magician as the better support with phone |
| 21:00.40 | TimRiker | BabelO: explain. you mean there are non-free linux ports to some of the phones? |
| 21:01.12 | BabelO | TimRiker: no you have openmoko as a devel phone , it look nice ;) |
| 21:01.40 | TimRiker | yeah, ordered one of the dev kits already. I hang out on #openmoko and #openezx |
| 21:02.05 | TimRiker | Universal has a 640x480 display, yes? do any of the others? |
| 21:02.32 | _law_ | BabelO: i currently rebuild my toolchain... |
| 21:02.40 | BabelO | TimRiker: it is the only one, after you have athena that have big display too |
| 21:02.46 | TimRiker | what works on the universal under linux? phone? power control? camera? (er cameras?), mem slot? keyboard? etc. |
| 21:03.19 | TimRiker | I don't see the Mogul listed. is it known by some other name? |
| 21:03.31 | BabelO | TimRiker: no camera at the moment, all other thing are working, but you can't flash linux in place of wince, just booting linux from a sd card |
| 21:04.04 | BabelO | Phone, is other thing, it miis a good application |
| 21:04.09 | TimRiker | does linux see the ce flash? ie is there a working mtd driver? is anyone working on a replacement bootloader? |
| 21:04.29 | BabelO | at the moment there is openmoko which can run in these phone ( magician and universal) |
| 21:05.48 | BabelO | TimRiker: the better is magician, which have mtd support and pH5 start working on a bootloader ;) |
| 21:06.37 | BabelO | all our phone have a missing camera driver :( |
| 21:07.38 | TimRiker | magician has a slide out keyboard or not? |
| 21:07.48 | TimRiker | is the titan the same as the tytn? |
| 21:08.45 | pH5 | TimRiker: magician has no keyboard, I don't know of titan, but TyTN is the hermes. |
| 21:09.27 | TimRiker | ah. the TyTN is a "Hermes" |
| 21:09.44 | TimRiker | does the keyboard on the univeral work yet? |
| 21:09.57 | pH5 | yes |
| 21:11.17 | pH5 | flash is working just fine (at least strataflash on pxa) - it's just that we didn't get around to make a proper bootloader yet. |
| 21:14.24 | TimRiker | starting with u-boot? |
| 21:19.39 | TimRiker | ah. sprint Mogul is a "Titan". Any luck there yet? |
| 21:20.08 | BabelO | TimRiker: no, someone just start with it |
| 21:21.04 | pH5 | uboot, yes, I've thought about that. |
| 21:21.15 | pH5 | what cpu is this titan? |
| 21:21.45 | BabelO | i think it is the MSM6250 or something like that |
| 21:22.08 | pH5 | never heard of it - must be cdma, the apache successor or something along those lines? |
| 21:22.38 | BabelO | http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=770 |
| 21:22.46 | pH5 | looks like the hermes |
| 21:25.39 | TimRiker | the mogul is ev-do (ie: cdma, yes) |
| 21:28.22 | TimRiker | I see Qualcomm MSM7500 Chipset listed here: http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=770&view=1 |
| 21:30.25 | BabelO | TimRiker: apt is your bot right ? is there a way to have a translate command ? for russian and other ;) be cool to have it instead of strange symbol ;) |
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| 21:43.22 | TimRiker | BabelO: yes. |
| 21:43.40 | TimRiker | x en gr this is a test in greek |
| 21:43.42 | TimRiker | ~x en gr this is a test in greek |
| 21:44.03 | TimRiker | ~x en jp it works using babelfish as the backend |
| 21:44.19 | silven | whoa, you borked my term for s sec. |
| 21:44.22 | BabelO | TimRiker: you are the master, thanks ;) |
| 21:44.23 | TimRiker | ~x en zh so any language code babel fish knows, it knows. |
| 21:44.52 | TimRiker | silven: utf8 is the one true irc encoding. :) |
| 21:45.00 | BabelO | ~x en cz Thanks a lot |
| 21:45.12 | silven | just enabled it.. can you paste something else? |
| 21:45.14 | BabelO | ok i see |
| 21:45.38 | TimRiker | ~x en ru so Russian might be supported. |
| 21:45.52 | silven | cool! Russian. |
| 21:45.58 | pH5 | ~x jp en すごい |
| 21:46.04 | silven | Well. It at least looks like cyrillic |
| 21:46.13 | TimRiker | ~x ru en настолько русская мощь была поддержана. |
| 21:46.13 | okias | ~x cz en Ahoj |
| 21:46.21 | TimRiker | heh |
| 21:47.46 | BabelO | apt speak alone now ;) |
| 21:48.05 | BabelO | there is a lot of hidden thing in apt ;) |
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| 22:08.58 | BabelO | ;) |
| 22:09.51 | BabelO | TimRiker: missing weather location ;) |
| 22:09.57 | BabelO | ~seen cr2 |
| 22:10.01 | apt | cr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 42d 5h 48m 23s ago, saying: 'haret-trin.exe'. |
| 22:10.11 | BabelO | long long holliday ;) |
| 22:10.29 | pH5 | lucky guy |
| 22:10.33 | pH5 | good night |
| 22:10.41 | BabelO | good nigh pH5 |
| 22:10.57 | okias | pH5: good night |
| 22:17.03 | TimRiker | ~x jp en お休み |
| 22:17.08 | TimRiker | heh |
| 22:19.01 | okias | :-D |
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| 22:34.07 | donny2k | hi@all |
| 22:34.09 | donny2k | how are you |
| 22:34.20 | donny2k | i have a question about a O2 XDA |
| 22:34.29 | okias | donny2k: Hi :-) |
| 22:34.29 | donny2k | does someone know it? |
| 22:34.40 | donny2k | hi okias |
| 22:35.11 | BabelO | donny2k: is it a wallaby ? |
| 22:35.41 | BabelO | donny2k: look here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ |
| 22:35.51 | donny2k | Hi Babel0 |
| 22:36.01 | donny2k | well, i copied linux on the device |
| 22:36.14 | donny2k | i think, its the same like the qtek s200 and the htc prophet |
| 22:36.19 | donny2k | well, i connected to it via ssh |
| 22:36.22 | donny2k | and i have access |
| 22:36.30 | donny2k | so i can input commands |
| 22:36.38 | donny2k | there is a interface called nano-x |
| 22:36.53 | donny2k | but when i type it in, the screen becomes black |
| 22:37.12 | donny2k | but when i input the "TEST APPS" called 'malpha" in it, it works |
| 22:37.17 | donny2k | does someone know, what to do |
| 22:37.19 | BabelO | donny2k: is it you speaking with Kevin2 yesturday ? |
| 22:37.50 | donny2k | yesterday? |
| 22:37.51 | BabelO | no, not you |
| 22:37.54 | donny2k | no |
| 22:38.09 | donny2k | i wrote with him half a year ago |
| 22:38.18 | donny2k | with another problem |
| 22:38.26 | donny2k | it was with the dumped GPIO |
| 22:38.35 | donny2k | how to get the dumped gpio number |
| 22:40.44 | BabelO | donny2k: with latest haret it is watch gpios |
| 22:42.01 | donny2k | ? |
| 22:42.12 | donny2k | you mean the command |
| 22:42.42 | donny2k | "watch gpios" or what do you mean? |
| 22:43.06 | donny2k | or do you mean, it can search automaticlly |
| 22:43.48 | BabelO | donny2k: with latest haret and omap850 processor then if you use watch gpios, it show you all gpio change |
| 22:43.56 | BabelO | in real time |
| 22:44.05 | donny2k | hm..and that wasn't before? |
| 22:45.26 | BabelO | donny2k: donny don't know before |
| 22:46.10 | donny2k | yeah, the problem, i told to kevin2 was, i don't know what to do with this two numbers |
| 22:46.17 | donny2k | so i can't use them |
| 22:46.21 | donny2k | or need them |
| 22:47.27 | BabelO | two numbers ? do you have a sample ? |
| 22:48.00 | donny2k | i can't remember, but in my opinion it was 25 for SD OUT and 29 for SD In |
| 22:48.15 | donny2k | you meant this? |
| 22:51.28 | donny2k | i could remake the "test" to look for the GPIOS Numbers |
| 22:51.42 | donny2k | but what shall i do with them to have access to the sd card |
| 22:52.27 | BabelO | what you want to do ?if you have gpio number then you can activated mmc |
| 22:52.38 | donny2k | mmc or sd? |
| 22:52.43 | BabelO | same |
| 22:53.04 | donny2k | kk, my problem is, i don't know what to do, to have access to it |
| 22:53.11 | donny2k | for example i have the numbers 1 and 2 |
| 22:53.13 | donny2k | and now? |
| 22:53.49 | BabelO | in the code you need something like omap_gpio_out (1, 0) this will set gpio 1 to state 0 |
| 22:54.02 | donny2k | in the code of my linux version? |
| 22:54.18 | donny2k | in the source code? |
| 22:54.37 | BabelO | yes |
| 22:54.43 | donny2k | ah, ok |
| 22:55.19 | donny2k | only download the source code, edit it, and thats all? |
| 22:55.27 | donny2k | no further packages? |
| 22:55.33 | donny2k | or sdk#s? |
| 23:00.54 | donny2k | okay, so i need the source code of the omap_haret? |
| 23:00.58 | donny2k | or from the zImage? |
| 23:01.00 | donny2k | for example? |
| 23:03.23 | donny2k | does someone use nano-x? |
| 23:03.34 | donny2k | or which graphical interface do you use for your PPC? |
| 23:04.24 | BabelO | donny2k: it is source code in kernel not haret |
| 23:04.44 | donny2k | kk, the problem is, the running kernel i have, there is no source code avaible :-( |
| 23:04.52 | BabelO | for X we use the one in OE |
| 23:05.06 | donny2k | hm.. |
| 23:05.19 | BabelO | donny2k: from where you download it ? |
| 23:05.32 | donny2k | from the link of xda-developers.com |
| 23:05.38 | donny2k | than i clicked on my device |
| 23:05.43 | donny2k | and then downloaded linWizard |
| 23:05.51 | donny2k | that works fine,.. means |
| 23:05.58 | donny2k | i have access via ssh, it runs on the device |
| 23:05.59 | BabelO | so there is a kernel tree for it |
| 23:06.06 | donny2k | for linWizard? |
| 23:06.16 | BabelO | and mmc run on it |
| 23:06.27 | donny2k | MMC run on it???? |
| 23:06.31 | donny2k | i try it..one mom |
| 23:06.32 | donny2k | pls |
| 23:06.54 | donny2k | do you know the device called in linux when i insert a mcc? |
| 23:06.56 | donny2k | mmc? |
| 23:06.58 | BabelO | can you try this one http://omap850.om.funpic.de/downloads/wizard/zImage with the cc.ext2.gz ? |
| 23:07.17 | BabelO | it detect well mmc on my phone |
| 23:07.27 | donny2k | ok |
| 23:07.33 | donny2k | with which cc.ext2.gz? |
| 23:07.40 | BabelO | i m like you, i jave no artemis |
| 23:08.03 | BabelO | http://omap850.om.funpic.de/downloads/wizard/cc.ext2.gz |
| 23:08.19 | BabelO | i ve no wizard but an artemis instead |
| 23:08.54 | donny2k | aah, ok, i try it, one mom, pls |
| 23:09.23 | donny2k | okay, i THINK it works |
| 23:09.36 | donny2k | it loads up |
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| 23:09.48 | donny2k | i hope its not mine |
| 23:09.50 | donny2k | the old one |
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| 23:09.56 | donny2k | i hope he overwrote it |
| 23:12.10 | donny2k | okay, what i have to enter |
| 23:12.10 | donny2k | ? |
| 23:13.49 | BabelO | donny2k: where ? |
| 23:13.58 | donny2k | i connected via telnet |
| 23:14.00 | donny2k | right? |
| 23:14.02 | donny2k | or wrong? |
| 23:14.21 | donny2k | i took my haret version, and replaced theext... and the zImage file |
| 23:14.36 | donny2k | and loaded a linux.ha with the path to the files |
| 23:14.47 | donny2k | then it loads up, and i connected via telnet |
| 23:14.58 | BabelO | that s ok then |
| 23:14.59 | donny2k | so i would like to try a graphical interface |
| 23:15.01 | BabelO | dmesg ? |
| 23:15.17 | BabelO | do you see a line with MMC ? |
| 23:16.08 | donny2k | MMC host reset done: remaining tries: 100 |
| 23:16.24 | donny2k | MMC1: Command timeout, CMD0 |
| 23:16.32 | donny2k | do i have to input an mmc? |
| 23:16.50 | BabelO | donny2k: you have only these lines ? |
| 23:17.04 | donny2k | where the word "MMC" is in it |
| 23:17.07 | BabelO | good my kernel with hh sources is working now ;) |
| 23:17.17 | donny2k | there are 91 lines |
| 23:17.20 | donny2k | shall i paste them? |
| 23:17.31 | BabelO | yes in pastebin.ca |
| 23:17.36 | BabelO | http://pastebin.ca |
| 23:17.39 | donny2k | http://nopaste.php-quake.net/2779 |
| 23:17.41 | donny2k | oh |
| 23:17.46 | donny2k | okay, i hope, thats okay too |
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| 23:18.57 | BabelO | if you have a mmc card in then it is not detected :( |
| 23:19.12 | donny2k | okay, i put one in it |
| 23:19.23 | donny2k | and then type the command again? |
| 23:19.45 | BabelO | yes same, and you see few more line with your sd size and a partition number |
| 23:20.48 | donny2k | no, the same |
| 23:20.58 | donny2k | BUT it can be, that my mmc card is damage |
| 23:21.01 | donny2k | that can be |
| 23:21.03 | donny2k | hm |
| 23:21.05 | donny2k | question |
| 23:21.17 | donny2k | does your Linux Image have an graphical interface? |
| 23:22.41 | BabelO | pH5 : look this ;) http://pastebin.ca/667395 |
| 23:23.32 | donny2k | @Babel0: does it have one? |
| 23:24.36 | donny2k | the other image, when i enter "nano-X" a graphical interface should start, but it doesn't |
| 23:24.43 | donny2k | perhaps in your one, it works!? |
| 23:24.49 | donny2k | but nano-X is not avaible in there |
| 23:25.25 | BabelO | donny2k: i have no image :( |
| 23:25.36 | donny2k | no, i mean the one, i downloaded |
| 23:26.09 | BabelO | donny2k: no i don't think :( |
| 23:33.22 | silven | donny2k : You still there? |
| 23:35.20 | donny2k | yeah |
| 23:35.36 | donny2k | hi silven |
| 23:35.53 | silven | donny2k : I'm working on the linwizard kernel tree right now. I have some patches to integrate, but it should be up soon. |
| 23:36.43 | silven | It _should_ be compatible. |
| 23:36.55 | donny2k | reallly??? cool |
| 23:37.01 | donny2k | do you have something to test? |
| 23:37.07 | silven | I have montevista as upstream and I'm hoping to be able to integrate with mainline at some point. |
| 23:37.18 | donny2k | sounds great |
| 23:37.24 | donny2k | there are 2 things i try to solve |
| 23:37.31 | silven | at the moment I have to fix the things that we have to work with the current kernel. |
| 23:37.37 | donny2k | first: access to my SD Card |
| 23:37.45 | donny2k | second: start up a graphical interface |
| 23:37.47 | silven | There is something that works if you follow this: |
| 23:38.00 | silven | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1540883&group_id=174107&atid=867988 |
| 23:39.00 | silven | I'm cleaning things up, moving forward with kernel devel and such. There are a few issues with /dev that I have to work out, but I hope to have a stable git repo up asap. |
| 23:39.32 | silven | I'm porting those patches that are on the linwizard page to montevista-omap/linus current. |
| 23:40.11 | BabelO | silven: i ve a working kernel for my artemis now, on hh kernel |
| 23:40.19 | donny2k | that is really great, when it works |
| 23:40.27 | silven | hh is cvs only correct? |
| 23:40.35 | BabelO | silven: yes |
| 23:40.50 | silven | do you know what they use as upstream? |
| 23:41.32 | BabelO | silven: i think it is close to mainline, i think it use linus tree |
| 23:42.33 | silven | I'll look into how different it is from what I have. I didn't really look too much into it because I avoid cvs like the plague. |
| 23:42.46 | BabelO | silven: i identiy the touchscreen gpio, but i miss the spi registers |
| 23:43.06 | silven | Especially since I have patches for wizard that are against a 6 month old kernel release. |
| 23:43.16 | BabelO | silven: ok |
| 23:43.44 | donny2k | @silven: short question |
| 23:43.48 | silven | Kevin2 was mentioning to me that mainline haret has improved a lot as well, and that it has wizard support now. |
| 23:43.57 | silven | donny2k : Sure |
| 23:43.58 | donny2k | do you have a chance to get an interface for my PPC? |
| 23:44.06 | silven | PPC? |
| 23:44.11 | donny2k | pocket pc |
| 23:44.16 | donny2k | the qtek s200, or the HTC |
| 23:44.17 | silven | interface meaning? |
| 23:44.27 | donny2k | graphical interface |
| 23:44.30 | donny2k | like nano-X |
| 23:44.32 | BabelO | silven: yes main haret works fine, it use it on my artemis and be able to found many things |
| 23:44.34 | donny2k | or something like that |
| 23:44.43 | silven | nano-x works. But it only runs the demo atm. |
| 23:44.59 | silven | Once things stableize someone needs to compile opie/gpe for it. |
| 23:45.16 | donny2k | is there a running alternative avaible? |
| 23:45.20 | silven | but nano-x framebuffer support was done by webtom in november. |
| 23:45.36 | silven | As of now afaik there is nothing built. |
| 23:45.42 | donny2k | hmm. :-( |
| 23:45.55 | silven | I just took the project back from maui last week :/ |
| 23:46.02 | donny2k | so i can't do anything to get a running linux for it? |
| 23:46.19 | donny2k | well, no graphical interface and no SD Support, right? |
| 23:46.27 | silven | linux (the kernel) runs. But it's not full featured and it's not ready for enduser support. |
| 23:46.34 | silven | SD does work. |
| 23:46.44 | silven | But noone has put together a userspace./ |
| 23:46.52 | donny2k | damn :-( |
| 23:46.58 | silven | I'm in the process of doing that. |
| 23:47.02 | silven | Just starting/ |
| 23:47.06 | donny2k | :) |
| 23:47.06 | donny2k | ok |
| 23:47.16 | donny2k | and the link you have me, that was for? |
| 23:47.44 | silven | dcordes is going to be working on using OpenEmbedded for userspace. |
| 23:48.01 | silven | that link was the process for patching the kernel that we have now. |
| 23:48.11 | donny2k | ah, ok |
| 23:48.19 | donny2k | and what can I do with it? |
| 23:48.23 | donny2k | well, stupid question |
| 23:48.30 | donny2k | what changes are included? |
| 23:48.32 | silven | If you look on the sourceforge page there are a few patches for the kernel for config/keyboard/nano-x support. |
| 23:48.35 | donny2k | thank you for this great work |
| 23:48.55 | donny2k | and then nano-x runs? |
| 23:49.12 | silven | donny2k I haven't done much since nov. But hopefully things are going to change. we have a few people that are active and always looking for more. |
| 23:49.13 | silven | yes. |
| 23:49.18 | silven | Nano-X demo works. |
| 23:49.25 | silven | Lemme look for webtom's link |
| 23:49.33 | donny2k | ah.. okay.. |
| 23:49.35 | silven | ahh. my port80 is messed up. |
| 23:49.38 | donny2k | and the last question |
| 23:49.45 | donny2k | what do you mean with nano-x demo? |
| 23:49.50 | donny2k | is it usable? |
| 23:49.52 | silven | but if you look for webtom and wizard you should find his work with nano-x |
| 23:49.58 | silven | there is no userspace. |
| 23:50.02 | donny2k | ah, ok |
| 23:50.02 | silven | the framework runs. |
| 23:50.14 | donny2k | so, its better to wait a little bit |
| 23:50.16 | silven | it's kinda like if you run X-windows with no windowmanager. |
| 23:50.28 | silven | You can get a big X, but if there are no apps it's not very useful. |
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| 23:50.59 | donny2k | ^^ hehe, ok :) |
| 23:51.07 | silven | nano-x has a test-demo software to make sure the framebuffer behaves as expected. and that runs, but there are no programs afaik that are compiled against it. |
| 23:51.08 | donny2k | okay, i wait |
| 23:51.28 | silven | We have mailing lists and such on the linwizard sourceforge page/. |
| 23:51.45 | donny2k | aah, good to now |
| 23:51.47 | silven | There has been no activity for a long time, but that will be changing soon. |
| 23:52.23 | silven | If you want to sign up as a tester let me know. I'll add you in. |
| 23:52.31 | donny2k | yeah, necessary |
| 23:52.33 | silven | we also hang out in #linwizard |
| 23:52.36 | donny2k | i would really like to test it |
| 23:52.42 | donny2k | good to now |
| 23:52.46 | silven | I was helping a few people set up cross-compilers and source trees today. |
| 23:52.54 | donny2k | you want my mail addy? |
| 23:53.05 | silven | sure, do you have a sourceforge account? |
| 23:53.10 | donny2k | no :-( |
| 23:53.15 | silven | no worries. |
| 23:53.18 | silven | email? |
| 23:53.19 | donny2k | okay..one mom |
| 23:53.25 | donny2k | i give you in private channel |
| 23:53.29 | silven | perfec.t |