| 00:00.00 | tsdogs | nope :( |
| 00:00.30 | tsdogs | I'll try with some other mail server. |
| 00:00.56 | cr2 | ok. added roadmap_editor directory too. |
| 00:00.59 | cr2 | http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux |
| 00:01.57 | cr2 | BabelO: now we are missing the opie2 .bb file |
| 00:02.18 | cr2 | then everybody can generate his own distro . |
| 00:02.43 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i m reading the bb documentation |
| 00:02.57 | BabelO | (not baby documentation ;) ) |
| 00:06.08 | cr2 | take some existing one as a template. |
| 00:06.40 | cr2 | you only need to checkout 3 trees, apply some minor patch and compile. |
| 00:07.40 | cr2 | X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on p4.saignon.net |
| 00:07.55 | cr2 | X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham |
| 00:09.46 | BabelO | cr2: ok i see , i can take qt4 bb file as tsdogs says |
| 00:10.01 | BabelO | and we depend on alsa, bluetooth, helix |
| 00:10.23 | BabelO | humm helix can't be taken automatically |
| 00:11.04 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, but dependencies are just declarations. |
| 00:11.28 | BabelO | yes i see the DEPENDS = "jpeg freetype" |
| 00:11.58 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:12.29 | BabelO | would be nice to have Qt3support activated |
| 00:12.45 | cr2 | will it work ? |
| 00:12.59 | BabelO | i check in qtopia source and it is not here |
| 00:13.37 | cr2 | make sense :) |
| 00:13.40 | BabelO | but i see a line in qt4-x11-free bb file |
| 00:13.43 | cr2 | not to create bloat. |
| 00:18.35 | tsdogs | cr2: ok cvs is updated. You need to change the paths is datum/datum.c and datum/ellipse.c |
| 00:18.42 | tsdogs | I still have to fix it |
| 00:19.26 | tsdogs | BabelO: qt4 has still qt3 support, qtopia not :) |
| 00:19.39 | cr2 | tsdogs: ok, so it's possible to sync now. |
| 00:20.46 | cr2 | tsdogs: LIBS += /opt/OpieSdk/opie/x86/sdk/lib/libqpe.so |
| 00:20.46 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes, not in source |
| 00:20.49 | cr2 | in .pro |
| 00:21.13 | BabelO | ok my boot directory is ok now, can go to bed ;) |
| 00:21.29 | BabelO | good night |
| 00:21.34 | cr2 | good night. |
| 00:22.24 | tsdogs | cr2: ? |
| 00:22.32 | tsdogs | BabelO: good night |
| 00:23.09 | cr2 | tsdogs: qpegps.pro has this line. DDESKTOP=1 is missing. libgpsmm.h not found. |
| 00:23.32 | tsdogs | ok fixed |
| 00:24.30 | cr2 | commit ? |
| 00:25.13 | tsdogs | where is the libgpsmm.h missing? |
| 00:25.21 | tsdogs | you need gpsd-devel |
| 00:26.04 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:27.25 | tsdogs | how do you define the DESKTOP |
| 00:27.33 | tsdogs | DDESKTOP in pro does not work |
| 00:27.52 | cr2 | i've edited Makefile for now. |
| 00:28.08 | tsdogs | ok, I'll see it tomorrow then. |
| 00:28.20 | tsdogs | just waiting for you to finish |
| 00:28.52 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:29.27 | cr2 | hmm. can't connect to gpsd.berlios.de |
| 00:30.07 | tsdogs | what distro you using? |
| 00:30.46 | cr2 | suse |
| 00:31.23 | tsdogs | can't you simply do install gpsd-devel rpm ? |
| 00:31.52 | cr2 | ok, got it. |
| 00:31.57 | tsdogs | cr2: want me to send you e-mail? |
| 00:32.00 | tsdogs | ok. no |
| 00:32.02 | cr2 | don#t see it on the cd. |
| 00:32.24 | cr2 | compiling. |
| 00:34.57 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.59 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 00:35.43 | cr2 | hehe. it's not installed. |
| 00:36.08 | tsdogs | I had to copy it manually too. :( |
| 00:36.18 | cr2 | yeah. nice code ;) |
| 00:37.33 | tsdogs | configuration also needs fix ... |
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| 00:38.28 | tsdogs | I removed the gpsd start stop scripts... |
| 00:39.06 | cr2 | wow. it compiled, but the layout is completely fscked. |
| 00:39.33 | cr2 | yes, they are not needed. it's just bad design. |
| 00:39.46 | tsdogs | hmm. It should only missing images |
| 00:40.33 | cr2 | error: /home/alex/.qpegps/7_param.dat not found! |
| 00:40.51 | tsdogs | I told you I had to fix the paths :) |
| 00:41.06 | tsdogs | You need to change the paths is datum/datum.c and datum/ellipse.c |
| 00:41.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:43.35 | cr2 | well, i think we should go to bed for today. |
| 00:44.03 | tsdogs | agreed. |
| 00:44.08 | cr2 | should i generate a roadmap map for you tomorrow ? |
| 00:44.17 | cr2 | you you'd like to do it step by step ? |
| 00:44.18 | tsdogs | sure. that would be cool |
| 00:44.24 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:44.33 | cr2 | good night. |
| 00:44.37 | tsdogs | If I could do it myself that would also be great. |
| 00:44.41 | tsdogs | good night. |
| 00:44.46 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:47.39 | tre9 | I'm having trouble booting angstrom image on BA. Gets stuck on progess bar with OE logo. anyone know how to see debug messages? |
| 00:48.07 | tsdogs | tre9: you should disable OE image |
| 00:48.19 | tre9 | could you tell me how? |
| 00:48.27 | tsdogs | there is a cmd param for that. wait |
| 00:49.33 | tsdogs | psplash=false |
| 00:49.55 | tre9 | thank you tsdogs. so I'll put that in startup.txt. How did you find that? |
| 00:50.13 | tsdogs | in the psplash init.d script :) |
| 00:50.21 | tsdogs | yes in the CMDLINE |
| 00:54.22 | tre9 | that's what I needed, tsdogs. Thanks for your help. |
| 00:54.39 | tsdogs | you wellcome |
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| 05:45.28 | regulate | anyone around? |
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| 08:23.09 | BabelO | hi |
| 08:30.11 | regulate | hi |
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| 10:43.40 | bippixxx | I have a Magician, but when i enable Persisten contacts I get an error that says I've not enought memory, but it is not true, ideas? |
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| 11:08.54 | BabelO | cr2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8PMcvYTZo Beryl on HTC phone ? ;) |
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| 13:01.17 | donn | hi@all :) |
| 13:05.10 | pH5 | hi donn |
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| 13:55.52 | pH5 | is there any way to execute uploaded code from htc bootloaders other than the lnb command? |
| 14:07.49 | cr2 | pH5: i think it differs from device to device |
| 14:09.19 | pH5 | I'd love to experiment with booting the kernel from the htc bootloader to see where I'm still depending on wince to set up the hw. |
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| 14:19.48 | cr2 | pH5: you can do 'boot by resume', or create a "diagnostic" SD card. |
| 14:20.26 | cr2 | i think both are interesting. |
| 14:20.43 | cr2 | on all devices. |
| 14:21.14 | cr2 | hx4700 also boots from diagnostic card after all. |
| 14:21.37 | pH5 | cr2: is there any info on diag SD card properties available? I only know how to make 'flash me' cards, but I don't want to touch flash. |
| 14:22.23 | cr2 | look at the hx4700 bootldr source, but it misses the checksum calculation afair. |
| 14:22.35 | cr2 | then there is xda-dev wiki. |
| 14:22.40 | cr2 | looking for the links. |
| 14:24.38 | cr2 | first read this one: (pl source) http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RomTools%2Ftyphoonnbfdecode.pl |
| 14:25.12 | cr2 | then this one |
| 14:25.15 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RomTools%2Fsdtool.pl |
| 14:25.56 | cr2 | this is a bit outdated, but useful. hx4700 used it |
| 14:25.59 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaSDcardLayout |
| 14:26.55 | donn | hi cr2 |
| 14:26.57 | donn | how are you? |
| 14:27.32 | cr2 | hi donn. i'm working on holidays too ;) |
| 14:27.59 | cr2 | pH5: you want to write to the 0x90000000 area with the tools. this is RAM. |
| 14:28.02 | cr2 | bbl. |
| 14:32.43 | pH5 | cr2: thanks a lot for those links |
| 14:38.16 | donn | @cr2: did you hear something from kevin2? |
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| 15:46.08 | cr2 | tsdogs: are you here ? |
| 15:48.43 | cr2 | pH5: do you remember which arm register holds the address of the page table ? |
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| 15:55.44 | pH5 | cr2: s3c2410 docs say cp15 #2 |
| 15:56.27 | cr2 | i need a 'mcr p15 *' parser :) it's hell. |
| 15:56.34 | cr2 | thanks. |
| 15:58.00 | cr2 | it seems to me that the mmu is on on garmin. |
| 15:58.30 | cr2 | wince is so simple ;) |
| 15:59.34 | tsdogs | cr2: sort of |
| 16:00.27 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'm trying to generate a map for you. |
| 16:00.34 | tsdogs | :) |
| 16:00.45 | cr2 | and to simplify the process at the same time. |
| 16:01.30 | cr2 | some data is missing, so it will be necessary to use other means to do it. |
| 16:02.06 | cr2 | for example it is necessary to know for any street in which country/region/city it is located. |
| 16:02.08 | tsdogs | cr2: you seen this: "added support for state boundary shapefile" roadmap main |
| 16:02.34 | cr2 | no, but it's not very interesting. |
| 16:02.47 | cr2 | i'm trying to get away from the shapefiles. |
| 16:02.56 | cr2 | and use raw sql instead. |
| 16:03.13 | tsdogs | can't we use some kind of poly to know where it is in? |
| 16:03.35 | cr2 | right now it's mapinfo->shapefile->sql. |
| 16:03.52 | cr2 | which is actually not really necessary. |
| 16:04.11 | cr2 | yes, we can use vmap0 dataset for the borders. |
| 16:04.31 | tsdogs | ok |
| 16:04.40 | cr2 | and find out in which polygon is this street, based on its coordinates. |
| 16:05.01 | tsdogs | btw, I think I'll commit the roadmap_editor, as I cannot partecipate to the contest |
| 16:05.09 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:05.20 | tsdogs | yes, that's what I meant |
| 16:05.28 | cr2 | don't you want to post the patches to the ML ? |
| 16:05.48 | tsdogs | bbiaf |
| 16:05.55 | tsdogs | phone customer |
| 16:06.11 | cr2 | mapinfo is easy to generate, and can be plotted in qgis immediately. |
| 16:08.05 | tsdogs | good. for roadmap, I cannot subscribe still. :(, but ain't we going to use the roadmap_editor? |
| 16:09.14 | tsdogs | my roadmap tree did not change much since I switched to roadmap_editor |
| 16:09.50 | cr2 | it's the same ML. |
| 16:09.59 | tsdogs | ok |
| 16:10.01 | cr2 | ok, let's put both in CVS |
| 16:10.06 | tsdogs | but I broke compatibility |
| 16:10.14 | cr2 | then it's easier to create patches. |
| 16:10.21 | tsdogs | ok |
| 16:10.37 | cr2 | and to avoid sync problems. |
| 16:11.03 | tsdogs | :) sure |
| 16:11.14 | tsdogs | I'll do it later. |
| 16:11.25 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 16:48.39 | cr2 | tsdogs: how do i drop the whole db with all tables ? |
| 16:49.06 | tsdogs | drop database xxx; |
| 16:49.16 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:50.22 | cr2 | i will not mess with rivers=borders and water polygons now. |
| 16:50.30 | cr2 | it should be done in a cleaner way. |
| 16:51.59 | tsdogs | :) yes |
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| 16:56.04 | cr2 | do you have ogr2ogr ? |
| 16:56.48 | tsdogs | I think I have it |
| 16:56.57 | tsdogs | yes |
| 16:58.49 | cr2 | ok. we need to remove this requirement later. |
| 16:59.06 | tsdogs | ok |
| 17:00.24 | cr2 | there are some small things here and there that makes life difficult :) |
| 17:00.44 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:01.48 | cr2 | do i need to provide a full path in COPY FROM ? |
| 17:05.35 | tsdogs | don't think so but would be better |
| 17:05.58 | cr2 | hm. with full paths it works. |
| 17:07.37 | cr2 | i have 2 files. import.sh and impor.sql because i'm lazy to escape the sql in shell properly. |
| 17:08.46 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:10.07 | cr2 | again this stupid message |
| 17:10.09 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.42 | tsdogs | :) you found out what it causes it? |
| 17:11.30 | cr2 | no, but i'll check. it's a minor problem. |
| 17:11.39 | cr2 | line 45775, column 1: cannot remap database ./rdmdir/usc07001.rdm |
| 17:11.46 | cr2 | hm, why is that. |
| 17:11.51 | tsdogs | permission problems? |
| 17:11.56 | cr2 | the file is there. |
| 17:11.57 | cr2 | no. |
| 17:12.19 | tsdogs | no idea |
| 17:13.01 | cr2 | ok, it's one of the buildmap misfeatures ;) |
| 17:13.04 | cr2 | RDMDIR=`pwd`/rdmdir; FIPS=07001; MAP=italy; ./buildmap -v -m ${RDMDIR} -f PG ${FIPS} dbname=${MAP} |
| 17:13.08 | cr2 | this one works. |
| 17:14.23 | cr2 | ine 0, column 1: cannot open file ./usstates.txt |
| 17:14.31 | cr2 | one more misfeature. |
| 17:15.00 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:17.23 | cr2 | app_a02.txt, line 246, column 1: invalid state FIPS |
| 17:17.27 | cr2 | strange. |
| 17:18.53 | tsdogs | italy is 39 just in case |
| 17:20.48 | cr2 | 39 001 Adams OH |
| 17:20.52 | cr2 | it can#t be used. |
| 17:21.03 | cr2 | so i've taken the first empty in this table |
| 17:21.31 | cr2 | there is an attempt to overcome these limitations on the main CVS. |
| 17:23.21 | cr2 | need to look in the source, what is the problem. |
| 17:23.30 | cr2 | i've already had such troubles. |
| 17:23.38 | cr2 | the code there is really ugly. |
| 17:24.44 | cr2 | ok, found it. |
| 17:24.50 | cr2 | really silly. |
| 17:27.22 | cr2 | No map available ;) |
| 17:27.38 | cr2 | hmmm. the coordinates ? |
| 17:28.06 | cr2 | aa. 10,45 works. |
| 17:29.27 | tsdogs | :) well done. |
| 17:29.42 | cr2 | Time: 24095.4 minutes Length: 32 km :) |
| 17:29.58 | cr2 | forgot to adjust the from_time |
| 17:30.24 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:32.30 | cr2 | update segments set from_cross_time=length(the_geom)*400000/from_max_speed; |
| 17:33.31 | cr2 | ok, making a clean test now. |
| 17:33.38 | tsdogs | cr2: why do I get all undeliverable mail messages from SF when I upload cvs? |
| 17:35.44 | cr2 | something is broken there. |
| 17:36.16 | cr2 | woohoo. |
| 17:36.23 | cr2 | it passed :) |
| 17:36.29 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:36.32 | cr2 | i'll send you the files. |
| 17:36.56 | tsdogs | ok. Do I need a x86 or can be 64bit ? |
| 17:37.56 | cr2 | for what ? |
| 17:38.07 | cr2 | i've built on 32bit |
| 17:38.13 | tsdogs | for generating the maps. |
| 17:38.22 | cr2 | to avoid unexpected results. |
| 17:38.33 | cr2 | but we need to clean it too. |
| 17:38.56 | tsdogs | ok |
| 17:38.58 | cr2 | the PG stuff should work. |
| 17:39.09 | tsdogs | perfect |
| 17:39.09 | cr2 | it#s the 'buildmap' that may have some problems. |
| 17:39.27 | cr2 | so can be done manually when the DB is setup |
| 17:39.42 | cr2 | the most tricky process now is to setup the DB. |
| 17:39.47 | regulate | i can talk to my hermes now |
| 17:40.31 | cr2 | tsdogs: sent |
| 17:40.34 | tsdogs | cr2: Isn't there some standards? |
| 17:40.36 | tsdogs | ok |
| 17:40.42 | cr2 | regulate: good. |
| 17:40.47 | cr2 | tsdogs: where ? |
| 17:40.49 | regulate | do the steps for installing familiar work on the hermes? |
| 17:40.56 | regulate | or should i not even go that path |
| 17:41.15 | tsdogs | for the postgis/PG schema handling of maps. |
| 17:41.17 | cr2 | regulate: there is no SD or NAND driver. |
| 17:41.26 | cr2 | tsdogs: no. |
| 17:41.32 | tsdogs | ok |
| 17:41.55 | regulate | cr2: dont newer kernels support SD ? |
| 17:41.59 | cr2 | regulate: the SD driver is difficult. for NAND i'll try to check what went wrong with the timing today. |
| 17:42.58 | cr2 | regulate: if the SD is on the s324xx then yes. but on hermes the ATI SD is used. the same on athena. |
| 17:42.58 | regulate | hmmm |
| 17:43.24 | cr2 | the CPU SD is used for SDIO . to do something with the wifi card. |
| 17:43.49 | cr2 | so the machine really uses 2 SD controllers. |
| 17:44.00 | cr2 | for different purposes. |
| 17:45.03 | cr2 | tsdogs: got the mail ? |
| 17:45.17 | tsdogs | yes, but for i386 I need to be home. |
| 17:46.57 | cr2 | ? |
| 17:47.19 | cr2 | it's the map, you can use it even on arm/wince :) |
| 17:47.29 | cr2 | rdm |
| 17:49.27 | tsdogs | ok |
| 17:51.51 | cr2 | which machine do you have now ? |
| 17:52.37 | tsdogs | turion x64 x2 |
| 17:53.19 | cr2 | i'll test on opteron now. |
| 17:53.26 | tsdogs | cr2: do I need to fix the schema to see the map? |
| 17:53.29 | regulate | i compiled a htchermes_defconfig |
| 17:53.37 | cr2 | it's only the build process that run on 32bit. |
| 17:53.44 | regulate | tried loading it via haret |
| 17:53.47 | cr2 | tsdogs: fix ? |
| 17:53.57 | tsdogs | I don't see anything :( |
| 17:53.58 | cr2 | regulate: and it crashed. |
| 17:54.18 | cr2 | tsdogs: checking. |
| 17:55.50 | regulate | well i need an initrd |
| 17:56.11 | cr2 | tsdogs: can navigate in Verona. |
| 17:56.14 | cr2 | on amd64 |
| 17:56.45 | cr2 | the time/distance is reasonable. ~60km/h speed |
| 17:56.50 | tsdogs | ok, I need to fix something here (probably some experiments) |
| 17:57.29 | cr2 | go to 10,45 and then press '-' several times |
| 17:58.12 | cr2 | imho, roadmap should show the map bounding box, if all layers are not shown |
| 17:58.24 | cr2 | like it's done on garmin. |
| 18:00.56 | tsdogs | ok, I still see the ~[0x1e] char in names though |
| 18:01.40 | tsdogs | ain't there water polygons? |
| 18:02.33 | cr2 | no. |
| 18:02.58 | tsdogs | ok |
| 18:03.07 | cr2 | the 0x1e is the hint for garmin device to show a highway symbol of something like that. |
| 18:03.16 | cr2 | they can be stripped away. |
| 18:03.44 | cr2 | ~[0xXX] just has special meaning. |
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| 18:04.45 | tsdogs | ok. good work, navigation seems to work pretty good |
| 18:04.59 | kiozen | hi, just got 5 min |
| 18:05.11 | kiozen | cr2 what app are you testig? |
| 18:06.03 | cr2 | kiozen: roadmap program. |
| 18:06.14 | kiozen | which onne? |
| 18:06.45 | cr2 | kiozen: i've found out what 0x3 0xa 0xc and 0xe mean :) |
| 18:06.46 | kiozen | eh? |
| 18:07.00 | kiozen | what ? |
| 18:07.08 | cr2 | so one can reflash the basemap, usermap, loader and firmware. |
| 18:07.12 | regulate | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/548299 |
| 18:07.20 | regulate | it just hangs |
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| 18:07.45 | kiozen | the last would be enought :) |
| 18:08.06 | kiozen | so what app does autorouting? |
| 18:08.30 | cr2 | kiozen: i think that the device runs with MMU on, so i need to find out the page table setup. |
| 18:08.54 | cr2 | kiozen: roadmap_editor, which we are testing now. i'll provide a link. |
| 18:09.37 | cr2 | the only data which the user should add himself are the turn restrictions and oneway roads. |
| 18:10.54 | kiozen | ok |
| 18:11.04 | cr2 | kiozen: forgot where is the english link http://www.freemap.co.il/roadmap.html |
| 18:11.21 | kiozen | ok, I have to move, wife is calling... :) |
| 18:13.34 | cr2 | regulate: RAMSIZE=07000000 |
| 18:14.18 | cr2 | 16*7=112MB ? |
| 18:15.16 | regulate | yup |
| 18:16.09 | cr2 | you have 112MB RAM ? |
| 18:17.42 | regulate | i'm not sure how that's calculated |
| 18:18.28 | cr2 | do you have wince5 ? |
| 18:18.36 | regulate | yeah |
| 18:18.41 | cr2 | strange. |
| 18:18.44 | cr2 | put |
| 18:18.52 | tsdogs | cr2: maybe the missing 16M are used somewhere like video memory |
| 18:19.09 | cr2 | set RAMSIZE 0x4000000 |
| 18:19.24 | cr2 | in haret config. |
| 18:19.41 | cr2 | hehe. video memory is not 16MB ;) |
| 18:20.08 | cr2 | it's 192K SRAM + 2 (or 4) MB SDRAM on ATI |
| 18:20.45 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 18:20.58 | tsdogs | cr2: roadmap and roadmap_editor are on CVS |
| 18:21.01 | cr2 | or do you think hermes has 128MB RAM ? |
| 18:21.16 | cr2 | tsdogs: ok. so route planning works for you ? |
| 18:21.24 | tsdogs | cr2: yes |
| 18:21.28 | cr2 | great. |
| 18:21.39 | tsdogs | need to test in real though :) |
| 18:21.51 | cr2 | :) |
| 18:22.02 | cr2 | what about opie2 ? |
| 18:22.15 | regulate | 128 flash rom and 64ram |
| 18:22.17 | cr2 | you can even compile the wince version. |
| 18:22.30 | cr2 | regulate: flash does not count. |
| 18:26.09 | regulate | i have 30 free ram before launching haret |
| 18:28.26 | cr2 | regulate: it does not matter. the device has 64MB RAM and the RAMSIZE should be 0x4000000 |
| 18:28.40 | cr2 | why is it miscalculated, i don't know. |
| 18:29.10 | cr2 | wince reports the wrong value (like 96MB or something like that) |
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| 18:29.43 | regulate | 48 in my case |
| 18:31.36 | regulate | what else can i try |
| 18:31.48 | cr2 | ok, so force the 64MB value on it :) |
| 18:31.56 | cr2 | set RAMSIZE 0x4000000 |
| 18:31.59 | cr2 | in default.txt |
| 18:31.59 | regulate | i did |
| 18:32.06 | cr2 | does it boot ? |
| 18:32.11 | regulate | same as before |
| 18:32.18 | cr2 | the log file ? |
| 18:32.55 | regulate | if i set loging does it log more than the stdout ? |
| 18:33.32 | cr2 | i think yes. |
| 18:38.56 | tsdogs | bbl |
| 18:40.12 | regulate | http://pastebin.ca/548412 |
| 18:40.15 | regulate | thats the log |
| 18:41.52 | cr2 | regulate: looks good. where does your ramdisk come from ? |
| 18:44.00 | regulate | i dont have one |
| 18:44.14 | regulate | is there one for the hermes i can start with? |
| 18:45.04 | regulate | i found some info on rebuilding an initrd from familiar's distro , should i go down that path? |
| 18:45.39 | cr2 | you can try. |
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| 18:48.11 | regulate | ooh |
| 18:48.16 | regulate | atidbg |
| 18:48.26 | regulate | just got haret 4.8 |
| 18:51.18 | regulate | ok this looks better |
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| 18:51.51 | regulate | video got initialized properly |
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| 19:00.56 | regulate | said Jumping to kernel... |
| 19:00.59 | regulate | on the device |
| 19:05.09 | cr2 | and then hangs ? |
| 19:10.51 | regulate | yeah |
| 19:23.20 | regulate | need a linuxrc |
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| 19:47.13 | ellisway | evening all |
| 19:48.26 | regulate | what to try next? |
| 19:50.34 | cr2 | regulate: use the rootfs.cgz from http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCHermes |
| 19:50.52 | cr2 | this is the initrd that was used for the hermes "demo" |
| 19:51.38 | cr2 | but it will be nice to rebuild the initrd from scratch. |
| 19:54.41 | pH5 | cr2: at what address should I should upload the kernel? I have unlocked the rbmc and wdata commands and can overwrite the bootloaders command table now. |
| 19:56.25 | cr2 | hmm. do you know where is the .data .bss and stack of the bootloader ? |
| 19:57.39 | cr2 | or maybe just load to 32MB |
| 19:58.05 | cr2 | it'm pretty sure the bootloader stuff is somewhere at the start of the memory. |
| 20:00.14 | cr2 | pH5: check with writing to the framebuffer first. |
| 20:01.23 | pH5 | cr2: thanks. bootloader code is at 0x90030000 and global variables are at 0x91f00000. |
| 20:01.31 | pH5 | I started with renaming the bootloader commands :) |
| 20:02.36 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:03.04 | cr2 | what about SP ? |
| 20:04.08 | pH5 | dunno, how can I get to it? |
| 20:04.18 | pH5 | the page table format is virt / phys / size, right? |
| 20:05.07 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:05.23 | cr2 | mov sp,0xdeadbeef |
| 20:05.55 | pH5 | then the framebuffer should be at 88500000, a8500000 like the wiki says. hm... |
| 20:06.39 | pH5 | yeah, I guess I should uploading some code. |
| 20:06.47 | pH5 | s/ up/start up/ |
| 20:24.08 | pH5 | heh, the bootloader uses main memory as frame buffer. writing 0x800 bytes to 90003000 creates a black line near the top |
| 20:27.12 | BabelO | pH5: you experiment bootloader on magician ? |
| 20:28.34 | pH5 | BabelO: yes. I want to start linux from the bootloader via usb upload. |
| 20:29.06 | BabelO | ok, bootloader is a security :) |
| 20:31.28 | cr2 | pH5: the same(similar) on the universal. but i have thought it's because of the VGA. |
| 20:36.51 | cr2 | BabelO: bootloader is the obscurity ;) |
| 20:37.41 | BabelO | cr2: i understand that :) but bootloader on HTC is like a small software that we can't broke , right ? |
| 20:37.53 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:38.17 | cr2 | pH5: what do you have in the empty banks ? |
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| 20:39.50 | pH5 | BabelO: oh, we can ;) |
| 20:40.06 | pH5 | cr2: the sdram banks? nothing I guess. |
| 20:41.02 | BabelO | pH5: i hope you can with some research :)Ã |
| 20:41.47 | cr2 | pH5: no, the 0x04* 0x08* |
| 20:42.21 | cr2 | pH5: so the loaded code runs with MMU on ? |
| 20:42.43 | cr2 | i'll need a similar hack too :) |
| 20:43.01 | cr2 | but first need to find out the MMU setup. |
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| 20:43.33 | pH5 | cr2: yes, that seems to be one of the first things the bootloader does. there is the bootloader page table at 0x1410 or something like that. |
| 20:43.35 | don | hi :) |
| 20:43.48 | donn | how are you? |
| 20:44.16 | pH5 | at PXA_CS2_PHYS I have the pasic3 (led/ds1wm) chip, I don't know about 0x04* |
| 20:45.36 | pH5 | the bootloader certainly doesn't touch that range |
| 20:45.59 | pH5 | hi donn |
| 20:48.01 | cr2 | donn: can you telnet to haret ? |
| 20:54.45 | cr2 | pH5: do you know why haret uses different asm syntax from objdump ? |
| 20:54.58 | cr2 | mrc 15, 0, r2, cr1, cr0, {0} |
| 20:55.38 | pH5 | uh, no idea. maybe that's still from the time when it wasn't comiled with gnu tools? |
| 20:55.38 | cr2 | mrc p15, 0, r0, c1, c0, 0 |
| 20:55.59 | cr2 | hmm. strange that as accepts it. |
| 20:57.03 | cr2 | 1 is cache, 4 is MMU |
| 20:57.26 | cr2 | no. |
| 20:57.45 | cr2 | 1 is dcache, 4 is MMU, 0x1000 is icache |
| 21:00.41 | cr2 | bic r1, r1, #4 ; 0x4 |
| 21:10.04 | cr2 | pH5: what does it mean, endless loop ? sub pc, pc, #4 ; 0x4 |
| 21:12.21 | pH5 | cr2: thumb? |
| 21:12.41 | pH5 | pc is always at current+2 instruction |
| 21:13.01 | cr2 | hmm. since i don#t know where the fb is mapped, the serial seems to be an only reliable way to communicate. |
| 21:13.02 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 21:13.03 | pH5 | for thumb this could be an endless loop, for 32bit instructions I guess something to clear a cache line? |
| 21:13.17 | cr2 | does not look like thumb code. |
| 21:13.19 | pH5 | (should continue at the next insn) |
| 21:13.30 | cr2 | it#s more like interrupt vectors. |
| 21:13.34 | cr2 | hmm. ok. |
| 21:13.38 | pH5 | pc = (pc+8) - 4 then |
| 21:13.50 | cr2 | ah, ins+data. |
| 21:14.54 | cr2 | i need some docs on the cpsr bits... |
| 21:16.40 | cr2 | i can see 3 code entries, but they look like virtual entries. |
| 21:17.09 | cr2 | 0x08000000, 0x0c000000 and 0x0c020000 |
| 21:19.04 | donn | @cr2: the question with the telnet |
| 21:19.05 | donn | yes |
| 21:19.20 | donn | ähm, wait, to haret? |
| 21:19.21 | donn | hm |
| 21:19.26 | donn | I don't know if it is haret |
| 21:19.39 | donn | i load the haret.exe and linux still runs with the login |
| 21:19.46 | donn | and to the linux ssh server I can connect |
| 21:21.56 | cr2 | donn: no, without linux. |
| 21:22.05 | cr2 | do you have wifi ? |
| 21:22.18 | donn | yes |
| 21:22.26 | donn | but i connected via Ethernet |
| 21:22.32 | donn | you mean, the normal haret.exe? |
| 21:22.43 | cr2 | can you telnet to normal haret on port 9999 ? |
| 21:22.48 | donn | yes |
| 21:22.48 | donn | i can |
| 21:22.49 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:22.54 | donn | but this is another one |
| 21:23.00 | donn | and it don't work |
| 21:23.05 | donn | when I click on "LOad" or "Go" |
| 21:23.14 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:23.16 | donn | it crashes and switches of |
| 21:23.24 | cr2 | you need to click on "listen for connection" |
| 21:23.40 | donn | yes, and there is another button, isn't it? |
| 21:23.40 | cr2 | no need to boot linux. |
| 21:23.46 | cr2 | "run" |
| 21:23.49 | donn | yes |
| 21:23.54 | cr2 | you don't need to "run" |
| 21:23.57 | donn | kk |
| 21:24.04 | donn | shall I run a telnet session? |
| 21:24.08 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:24.28 | cr2 | i'd like to know the output of some commands. |
| 21:24.30 | donn | ok, please wait |
| 21:24.42 | donn | witch haret.exe should I load? |
| 21:24.46 | donn | there are many versions |
| 21:25.42 | cr2 | the latest. 0.8.4 |
| 21:26.00 | donn | kk |
| 21:26.19 | cr2 | sorry. 0.4.8 |
| 21:26.22 | cr2 | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret |
| 21:32.51 | donn | i am connected |
| 21:32.59 | donn | HaRET(1)# |
| 21:35.36 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:35.50 | cr2 | pd 0xfffed400 4 |
| 21:36.03 | donn | yes |
| 21:38.05 | cr2 | what is the value ? |
| 21:39.25 | donn | fffed400 | 03320500 |..2. |
| 21:39.44 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:39.50 | cr2 | pd 0xfffed404 4 |
| 21:40.07 | donn | fffed404 | 1b62c02f |
| 21:40.12 | donn | | /.b. |
| 21:40.25 | cr2 | pd 0xfffe2000 4 |
| 21:40.50 | cr2 | pd 0xfffe2004 4 |
| 21:41.14 | cr2 | pd 0xfffe1800 4 |
| 21:41.16 | donn | fffe2000 | 03320500 |..2. |
| 21:41.18 | cr2 | pd 0xfffe1804 4 |
| 21:42.02 | donn | i hope its coorect |
| 21:42.09 | donn | fffe1804 | 00000000 | .... |
| 21:42.24 | cr2 | yes, it's the same as on tornado |
| 21:42.43 | cr2 | what about 2004 and 1800 ? |
| 21:44.08 | donn | fffe2004 | 1b62c02f |
| 21:44.36 | donn | and fffe1800 | 000000000 | .... |
| 21:46.00 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:46.00 | cr2 | now looking for gpio. |
| 21:46.24 | donn | okay, shall i quit the telnet session? |
| 21:46.36 | cr2 | no. |
| 21:46.39 | donn | k |
| 21:46.42 | cr2 | there are 5 banks. |
| 21:46.50 | cr2 | i need to calculate the addresses. |
| 21:46.52 | cr2 | for pd |
| 21:47.10 | cr2 | let's start with bank 0. |
| 21:47.46 | cr2 | 0xfffbc000 , 0xfffbc004 and 0xfffbc008 |
| 21:47.46 | pH5 | heh, this is so exciting. I just replaced dbgtest with a new bootloader command that executes code at ram+32M. 18 words modified and I already feel like I accomplished something :) |
| 21:48.04 | cr2 | pH5: cool :) |
| 21:48.04 | donn | okay, i only enter 0xfffbc000? |
| 21:48.12 | donn | or with the pd before |
| 21:48.13 | donn | ? |
| 21:48.16 | cr2 | donn: pd 0xfffbc000 4 |
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| 21:48.20 | donn | kk |
| 21:48.41 | cr2 | donn: it's always 'pd addr size' |
| 21:48.45 | donn | kk :) |
| 21:48.49 | donn | fffbc000 | fff6ffff | .... |
| 21:49.02 | padski | cr2: how do ? :-) |
| 21:49.11 | donn | fffbc004 | 00000100 | ..... |
| 21:49.16 | cr2 | padski: working hard :) |
| 21:49.24 | padski | lol |
| 21:49.29 | donn | fffbc008 | 81f7eff |
| 21:50.12 | padski | cr2: randr |
| 21:50.25 | cr2 | donn: no add the 0x800, it will be the first bank. |
| 21:50.37 | cr2 | s/no/now/ |
| 21:51.22 | donn | oh..hmm.. i don't really now what to enter |
| 21:51.38 | cr2 | pd 0xfffbc800 4 |
| 21:51.44 | cr2 | pd 0xfffbc804 4 |
| 21:51.47 | cr2 | pd 0xfffbc808 4 |
| 21:51.50 | donn | ah, okay.. sry.. |
| 21:52.11 | donn | fffbc800 | ffffffd7 | .... |
| 21:52.12 | cr2 | pd 0xfffbc800 0xc |
| 21:52.39 | donn | fffbc804 | 00000180 | .... |
| 21:52.55 | donn | fffbc808 | 00000f5d | ]... |
| 21:53.34 | donn | fffbc800 | ffffffd7 00000180 00000f5d ........]... |
| 21:53.47 | cr2 | 8 is DIR, 4 is OUT and 0 is READ. |
| 21:53.48 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:53.55 | cr2 | bank2 |
| 21:54.13 | cr2 | pd 0xfffbd000 0xc |
| 21:54.47 | donn | fffbd000 | ffeff8ff 00000018 ffe0ffe7 | ............. |
| 21:54.59 | cr2 | pd 0xfffbd800 0xc |
| 21:55.36 | donn | fffbd800 | 9dffffff 14000000 cbffffff | ............. |
| 21:55.45 | cr2 | pd 0xfffbe000 0xc |
| 21:55.59 | padski | When I try to run gnubg on the angstrom X, it errors there is no GL |
| 21:56.30 | donn | fffbe000 | fffeffe0 4880c820 80773fda | .... ..H.?w. |
| 21:56.49 | cr2 | padski: i doubt you want opengl on angstrom:) |
| 21:56.58 | cr2 | donn: pd 0xfffbe800 0xc |
| 21:57.29 | donn | fffbe800 | 0000bdff 00000000 ffffffff | ............. |
| 21:57.46 | cr2 | donn: now the last one pd 0xfffbc000 0xc |
| 21:58.12 | padski | cr2: It's dumb prog, or at least a dumb build of a prog. I have the stock debian etch X running on there (which buys me GL and gnubg runs), but then I get no rotation with xrandr :-( |
| 21:58.16 | donn | fffbc000 | fff6ffff 00000100 81f7feff | ............. |
| 22:00.04 | padski | cr2: besides which this is a pxa270, not my old apple][e ;-) |
| 22:00.38 | cr2 | padski: i didn't run X for a long time. apple][ was a better machine :) |
| 22:01.35 | padski | lol |
| 22:02.41 | cr2 | donn: now you can do the following. there are 5 READ registers: c000, c800, d000, d800, e000 |
| 22:03.09 | padski | you know you can't install a package with dpkg now in 64MB without swap ? |
| 22:03.32 | donn | is it right: pd 0xfffbc000 4 ? |
| 22:03.59 | cr2 | donn: you can add a 'watch' on them, and do something hardware-related like insert/remove the SD card (haret should run from the main memory) |
| 22:04.16 | cr2 | donn: 'help' for the addwatch syntax. |
| 22:05.20 | donn | watch <watch list> [<seconds>] hmm.... |
| 22:06.14 | donn | with the 5 read registers, shall I enter the "pd 0xfffbc000 4"? |
| 22:06.25 | donn | or do you mean I have to do something with the watch and the c000 |
| 22:07.19 | cr2 | hmm. no |
| 22:07.32 | donn | i am a little bit confused... sry :( |
| 22:08.58 | cr2 | addwatch 0xfffbc000 |
| 22:09.18 | cr2 | i hope the virtual memory map is the same as on typhoon. |
| 22:09.19 | cr2 | wait. |
| 22:09.28 | donn | unkown keyword "addwatch" |
| 22:09.46 | cr2 | no. |
| 22:09.50 | cr2 | 0xb8 |
| 22:10.06 | cr2 | which haret do you have ? |
| 22:10.13 | donn | 0.4.48 |
| 22:10.23 | donn | HaRET Version 0.4.8 |
| 22:10.24 | cr2 | hmm. you are on omap. |
| 22:10.42 | cr2 | well, then we need Kevin2 for that. sorry. |
| 22:10.47 | donn | kk, no problem |
| 22:10.57 | cr2 | now we can only decode the DIR regisers. |
| 22:10.57 | donn | there is one command calls "Watch" |
| 22:11.04 | pH5 | cr2: I don't understand how haret's trampoline works. How can I turn off the MMU while executing code at virt 92000000 (phys a2000000) and make sure it continues to run at (then) phys a2000000? |
| 22:11.05 | donn | perhaps it could help |
| 22:11.35 | cr2 | donn: for 'watch' you need something to watch ;) |
| 22:11.58 | donn | ah, i thought: "watch 0xf...." |
| 22:12.09 | cr2 | pH5: you can manipulate the page table. |
| 22:12.22 | cr2 | to have 1:1 mapping for this area |
| 22:12.52 | cr2 | afair haret adds a 1MB entry to its code. |
| 22:13.18 | donn | wrote kevin2 haret? |
| 22:13.30 | cr2 | yes, partly. |
| 22:13.34 | donn | wow |
| 22:13.55 | pH5 | oh dear, looks like I might end up learning something here. |
| 22:14.03 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:15.10 | cr2 | haret is a very slimy code, even wince6 does not break its operation :) |
| 22:15.29 | donn | hehe... |
| 22:15.39 | donn | perhaps the version has an alternative command for addwatch? |
| 22:16.12 | cr2 | donn: it's cpu-dependent. pxa has the best support and we didn't do much with omap. |
| 22:16.27 | donn | ah, ok |
| 22:20.06 | donn | do you know, when he is back.. perhaps :-P |
| 22:24.03 | padski | while we wait ... what are my chances of doing randr rotation and opengl in one X server ? |
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| 22:27.43 | cr2 | padski: ask on the oe/gpe channel |
| 22:28.20 | cr2 | we need to fully RE our hardware first ;) |
| 22:29.32 | cr2 | good night. |
| 22:29.42 | padski | ok, thanks! g'night |
| 22:29.50 | donn | good night .9 |
| 22:29.52 | donn | thanks |
| 22:29.55 | padski | RE ? |
| 22:30.08 | pH5 | reverse engineer |
| 22:30.09 | pH5 | night cr2 |
| 22:30.13 | padski | ah! |
| 22:30.25 | padski | lol |
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| 23:27.16 | tre9 | I'm trying to boot BA. I get "login: " but the keyboard doesn't work and I can't ssh to it. If I press the direction pad I get some debug text on the LCD. On my host I get dmesg "kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: usb0: transmit timed out". Anyone know what might be wrong? |
| 23:58.29 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 23:58.51 | Kevin2 | pH5: What don't you understand about the trampoline? |