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| 07:04.36 | goxboxlive | ellisway: awake? |
| 07:11.50 | ellisway | yeh |
| 07:11.55 | ellisway | sup goxboxlive |
| 07:12.05 | goxboxlive | god |
| 07:12.17 | goxboxlive | i have some battery problems onmy universal |
| 07:12.25 | goxboxlive | are you familiar with the bug? |
| 07:12.42 | goxboxlive | it's not the one that shutsdown universal at 35% |
| 07:12.44 | ellisway | the battery not charging sort of thing |
| 07:12.51 | ellisway | hmm |
| 07:13.20 | ellisway | last time i had that i used a desktop charger rather than charging the battery in the handset |
| 07:13.24 | goxboxlive | it's the one that the battery indicator shows only 0% no mather of my status of the battery |
| 07:13.44 | goxboxlive | So i cant run the uni with WInCe without power cable plugged |
| 07:13.54 | goxboxlive | I am able to run Linux, but not WinCe |
| 07:14.22 | ellisway | there was some1 else who had some kind of solution on the xda-dev forums |
| 07:14.24 | goxboxlive | Do you know how i can solve this? I have updated the rom (only rom), not radio and ext_rom |
| 07:14.30 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 07:14.49 | goxboxlive | ok, i dont have a desktop charger |
| 07:14.51 | ellisway | like i say last battery i had like that was a friends unit |
| 07:16.06 | ellisway | we got a desktop charger and charged it that way |
| 07:16.06 | ellisway | i`m sure theres another method aswell but it eascapes me for the mo |
| 07:16.06 | goxboxlive | So you are saying that i should buy a desktop charger? |
| 07:16.07 | ellisway | will have a look through the forums and see if i can find it |
| 07:16.08 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 07:19.11 | ellisway | k |
| 07:19.33 | ellisway | can you charge the battery in the phone and get it to 100% under linux or wince ? |
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| 07:24.17 | goxboxlive | ellisway, no in wince it shows 0% no mather of what |
| 07:24.27 | ellisway | what bout under linux |
| 07:24.30 | goxboxlive | and when i unplug the power cable it shuts down |
| 07:24.33 | goxboxlive | in linux |
| 07:25.04 | ellisway | one suggestion is to fully charge the battery and then enter the bootloader and see what it does |
| 07:25.09 | goxboxlive | it runs like normal, but i dont have a working battery indicator so i dont now it's status |
| 07:25.33 | goxboxlive | ellisway: I have done the bootloader uncharge, didnt help |
| 07:26.03 | ellisway | k |
| 07:26.17 | goxboxlive | ANd when the battery is empty and i charge it , the leds is orange until it is fully charged so it turns green. |
| 07:26.34 | goxboxlive | so it seems like the battery is Ok, but wince has problem to read it status |
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| 07:26.50 | goxboxlive | but it didnt help to reflash the dam* thing either |
| 07:26.57 | ellisway | when it turns green |
| 07:27.09 | ellisway | can you unplug the usb and plug it back in |
| 07:27.18 | goxboxlive | The battery is only 3 months old so it shouldnt be broken either |
| 07:27.22 | ellisway | restart the charge sort of thing |
| 07:28.02 | goxboxlive | Yes i can plug it back in, but i have to be fast otherwise wince shuts it down |
| 07:28.15 | goxboxlive | because of the 0% status |
| 07:28.15 | ellisway | then see how long it takes before the led goes green again |
| 07:28.58 | goxboxlive | ok, it is charging now so i have to wait until it is fully charged to test |
| 07:29.36 | ellisway | if it goes green within a couple of mins then it sounds like it has a full charge |
| 07:29.51 | ellisway | if it takes a while then it could be that the battery is failing |
| 07:30.03 | ellisway | normaly somthing like a single dead cell |
| 07:30.41 | ellisway | do you hae any other batteries ? |
| 07:31.15 | ellisway | only other thing i can think of would be to connect a 5 olt led to the battery |
| 07:31.24 | ellisway | and completly flatten it |
| 07:31.33 | ellisway | then recharge |
| 07:32.18 | goxboxlive | ok, i have flatten the battery with the bootloader mode |
| 07:32.28 | goxboxlive | status now: |
| 07:32.44 | goxboxlive | It is charging now, the led is orange. |
| 07:32.49 | goxboxlive | I unplugged the cable |
| 07:33.00 | goxboxlive | the led turned green blinking |
| 07:33.13 | goxboxlive | the system menu warned me about flat battery |
| 07:33.24 | ellisway | bootloader mode will only take battery down to a certain threshold as far as i`m aware |
| 07:33.29 | goxboxlive | i replugged the power cable and the led turned orange again |
| 07:33.41 | ellisway | k |
| 07:33.46 | goxboxlive | ellisway: ok |
| 07:33.59 | goxboxlive | I have another battery, but i dont know where it is. |
| 07:34.04 | goxboxlive | ANother thing |
| 07:34.11 | goxboxlive | someone told me yesterday that |
| 07:34.51 | goxboxlive | i could install remote control-II and take a hardreset, that would make it work again, but i treid but it didnt help |
| 07:35.53 | ellisway | never heard of doing that b4 |
| 07:36.07 | ellisway | rc2 thats irda remote control |
| 07:36.18 | ellisway | for tv`s and so on |
| 07:36.26 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 07:36.28 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 07:36.35 | ellisway | weird |
| 07:36.52 | ellisway | hard reset from a tv remote control |
| 07:37.13 | goxboxlive | it babelO who told me and he is a trusty source . A coworker of himn had the same problem |
| 07:37.21 | ellisway | k |
| 07:37.41 | goxboxlive | no, install the application and the take a hardreset. It probably do something with the register |
| 07:38.02 | goxboxlive | i wonder if it could be a WM6 problem, maybe i should revert back to WM5 |
| 07:38.08 | ellisway | i think the best option would be to get it fully charged then flatten it completly in bootloader mode |
| 07:38.41 | ellisway | then put a led on to the batter so that it gets taken below the low threshold that the bootloader takes it down to |
| 07:38.53 | ellisway | ah |
| 07:39.19 | ellisway | i have seen people who have gone back to wm5 and their batterys have rteturned to full capicity |
| 07:39.34 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 07:39.48 | ellisway | i still use the standard tmobile rom on my handset |
| 07:40.06 | ellisway | standard tmobile rom and ext rom |
| 07:40.08 | goxboxlive | when it is fully charge i flash it with a original imate rom to see if that might help |
| 07:42.24 | ellisway | k |
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| 09:12.43 | goxboxlive | ellisway: I flshed with WM5 original i-mate rom but still the same issue. I guess there is something with my battery. I buy i new one to see if that will help. |
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| 10:10.32 | goxboxlive | cr2: There are two issues with universal now. |
| 10:10.51 | goxboxlive | cr2 : #1 The screen flicker again when it resume |
| 10:12.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: #2 I think there must be something with the power driver. It seems like my battery is broken, and i think that it might happend when i was connected to usb (ssh) a whole evening. DOes it make semnce, can the uni be overcharged ? |
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| 10:39.11 | goxboxlive | cr2: #1 No the screen doesnt flicker now. It was my fault. Then we have only issue #2 left. |
| 11:01.16 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive |
| 11:01.40 | cr2 | there is some unknown battery gpio, but i've never observed it. |
| 11:02.08 | cr2 | i thought it has something to do with charging in suspend, or something like that. |
| 11:02.25 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
| 11:02.33 | tsdogs | I have this: http://www.pastebin.ca/511282 |
| 11:02.52 | tsdogs | I only added implementation of the image part, but no idea what happened. |
| 11:02.59 | tsdogs | probably some include order. |
| 11:03.04 | tsdogs | functions are there... |
| 11:04.01 | cr2 | your prototypes does not exactly match the header |
| 11:04.12 | tsdogs | but it's the same... |
| 11:04.13 | cr2 | so they are mangled by g++ |
| 11:04.26 | tsdogs | I checked planty of times. |
| 11:04.26 | cr2 | check again :) |
| 11:04.30 | tsdogs | :) |
| 11:04.51 | tsdogs | It has something to do with the call, as I did not change the definition, |
| 11:04.58 | tsdogs | only added struct definition |
| 11:04.59 | cr2 | can i get the full tar.bz2 ? |
| 11:05.21 | tsdogs | ok |
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| 11:06.47 | tsdogs | on it's way |
| 11:07.07 | tsdogs | I'm going to get something to eat bbl |
| 11:09.19 | goxboxlive | cr2: Ok, because i guess this happends while it where charging. It might be safest then to use the images without the power2 module loaded right? |
| 11:10.33 | cr2 | maybe the power monitor writes something strange into battery eeprom. |
| 11:10.56 | cr2 | do we have a standalone eeprom ds276x dumper ? |
| 11:11.07 | cr2 | something to ask bd2 about. |
| 11:11.36 | cr2 | cat /sys/xxx/yyy/zzz/eeprom would be optimal. |
| 11:14.12 | tsdogs | cr2: I have to go now, won't be here till tomorrow eve. so leave me a mail if you find something. |
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| 11:16.25 | cr2 | tsdogs: ok. till tomorrow. |
| 11:26.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive: do you want to see a screenshot ? |
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| 14:27.03 | cr2 | silent here. |
| 14:34.40 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: Hi! I'd like to rename xda.c to htcwallaby.c. ok? |
| 14:38.26 | cr2 | yes, it's a good idea. |
| 14:38.35 | psokolovsky_ | ok! |
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| 17:22.05 | goxboxlive | cr2: Yes i want to see a screenshot |
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| 17:35.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39923 |
| 17:36.58 | cr2 | BabelO: great, then i'll check my ba :) |
| 17:36.59 | goxboxlive | cr2: Wow thats cool |
| 17:37.26 | cr2 | goxboxlive: there are some bad news though. |
| 17:37.40 | goxboxlive | HAve you bought it, or is it another one? |
| 17:38.03 | cr2 | bought. |
| 17:38.17 | BabelO | cr2: is it athena ? |
| 17:38.29 | cr2 | is like nokia 770 |
| 17:38.34 | cr2 | BabelO: yes. |
| 17:38.54 | cr2 | but gnome sux, and the hardware is much better. |
| 17:39.18 | cr2 | BabelO: this is the _device_ for opie2 :) |
| 17:39.39 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Screenshot of what? |
| 17:39.53 | BabelO | you have to much dpi on this device for opie2 ;) |
| 17:40.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the bad news are that the sound is on ATI, not on ak4641. at least the PCM when you play. |
| 17:40.31 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 17:40.37 | cr2 | BabelO: the dpi is bad compared to the universal. |
| 17:40.49 | cr2 | but the screen size is nice. |
| 17:40.52 | BabelO | goxboxlive: making some image for gpe and opie for people who want to test it |
| 17:41.10 | BabelO | cr2: it is not 640x480 ? |
| 17:41.10 | cr2 | the keyboard deserves the award for the most stupid invention ;) |
| 17:41.21 | goxboxlive | ahh ok, i thought you had the phone app running now |
| 17:41.28 | cr2 | it's VGA, but the physical size is bigger. |
| 17:42.31 | cr2 | goxboxlive: sirf3 is good. |
| 17:42.50 | cr2 | no binary gpsd stupidity like on neo. |
| 17:42.52 | goxboxlive | Yes i think so |
| 17:43.12 | cr2 | have not tested video out yet. |
| 17:43.30 | goxboxlive | But the Athena is to big to cattieng around. |
| 17:43.33 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but the gps spyware is installed. |
| 17:43.35 | goxboxlive | When did you bought it? |
| 17:43.39 | goxboxlive | today? |
| 17:43.44 | cr2 | yes :) |
| 17:44.04 | goxboxlive | how much did you pay for it in germany? |
| 17:44.06 | cr2 | the spyware suggests to download the ephemeris. |
| 17:44.24 | cr2 | 525€ + contract. |
| 17:45.15 | cr2 | but it's a cool gadget. i think it's the last i'll buy in the next years ;) |
| 17:45.51 | goxboxlive | Yes it's real cool. It's suplied with all you need in a gadget, only it misses radio |
| 17:46.20 | cr2 | but it's not a phone. really. |
| 17:46.31 | goxboxlive | no it thats tru |
| 17:46.34 | goxboxlive | +e |
| 17:46.40 | cr2 | i think you need a headset to operate it. |
| 17:46.46 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:47.05 | cr2 | but there is a hole in the front panel. |
| 17:47.09 | cr2 | maybe it's a mic. |
| 17:47.29 | cr2 | the builtin speakers are shit compared to the universal. |
| 17:47.41 | goxboxlive | really |
| 17:47.54 | BabelO | cr2: do you think you can make a driver for 8Go harddrive ? |
| 17:48.07 | cr2 | BabelO: i must ;) |
| 17:48.15 | cr2 | otherwise it's useless. |
| 17:48.46 | cr2 | the miniSD is on ATI, like hermes. not easy too, not docs. |
| 17:48.47 | goxboxlive | what about gps? |
| 17:49.05 | cr2 | gps is on the serial port. i think. |
| 17:49.22 | cr2 | g4 is too risky. |
| 17:49.48 | cr2 | so i need to find out how they have connected the microdrive. |
| 17:49.59 | cr2 | i wish it was pcmcia ;) |
| 17:50.23 | goxboxlive | ok, if you manage to have HD and gps working i bay one my self in the authum or something. But first i want the Universal to finished :) |
| 17:50.39 | cr2 | the acx100 interrupts are very often, compared to uni and ba. |
| 17:50.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: gps will be trivial, imho. |
| 17:51.09 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:51.54 | goxboxlive | BabelO WHat is the status of the phone app? |
| 17:52.07 | cr2 | i bet the HD will be easiest to make work. |
| 17:52.19 | goxboxlive | ok sounds good |
| 17:53.15 | cr2 | BabelO: we have a qtopia gps app (more or less :), now we need a phone app. |
| 17:53.23 | BabelO | goxboxlive: seems good, but have some issue with gnokii library. |
| 17:53.53 | BabelO | cr2: oh, you have it working yesturday evening ? |
| 17:54.08 | cr2 | BabelO: if i have a qt4 app, is it easy to crosscompile it ? no .configure, only .pro |
| 17:55.03 | cr2 | BabelO: the qt3 port for _editor, and qt4 for the main branch. it's only a technicality now. |
| 17:55.04 | BabelO | cr2: yes, very easy ;) |
| 17:55.05 | goxboxlive | BabelO: So you are saying that it is working? Am now alowed to try it out? |
| 17:55.28 | cr2 | BabelO: http://qlandkarte.sf.net |
| 17:56.31 | cr2 | connecting a garmin to the usb host on athena. priceless :) |
| 17:56.49 | cr2 | and it also can plot the garmin maps. |
| 17:56.54 | cr2 | directly. |
| 17:57.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive: you can try it yes, but on MOnday only ;) |
| 17:57.41 | goxboxlive | ? |
| 17:58.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i m not at home actually, and have to finish to little thing tomorrow |
| 17:58.19 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:59.35 | cr2 | BabelO: it seems you don't get it :) we have opened a huge can of worms with opie2 :)) |
| 17:59.47 | BabelO | goxboxlive: and myabe i ve to port it to opie, because of missing package in opie2 :( |
| 17:59.59 | cr2 | and they are spreading in all directions. |
| 18:01.12 | goxboxlive | BabelO Are you asying that it might not work in Opie2? WHat package are you missing? |
| 18:02.16 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i can start it in opie2 have signal, receive call, pass call and receive sms, i want to have it working as a service not an app and did'nt have sound for ring :( |
| 18:03.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Ohh so you are really that far with it. So cool. Have tsdogs manage the same on his Universal? |
| 18:03.29 | cr2 | BabelO: you need a better mixer support for playing rings. |
| 18:03.54 | BabelO | yes, but lot of missing package in opie2, no irc, no msn, |
| 18:04.16 | cr2 | no msn. barf. |
| 18:04.19 | goxboxlive | cr2: ARe we able to make ringing working wit Universal? |
| 18:05.00 | cr2 | goxboxlive: we need to decouple playing sound from the mic, then it will work. |
| 18:05.33 | goxboxlive | BabelO: It will be available soon i guess. I think the most missing thng in it right now is a web browser and console application |
| 18:05.56 | goxboxlive | BabelO: But it would also be cool to have it working in Opie (1) |
| 18:05.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: what is console application ? |
| 18:06.02 | goxboxlive | terminal |
| 18:06.14 | cr2 | no terminal in opie2 ?? |
| 18:06.20 | goxboxlive | cr2 no |
| 18:06.30 | BabelO | console app, can compile it from opie, and for browser, there is already a simple widgetin Qtopia to do webbrowsing without javascript |
| 18:06.48 | goxboxlive | is it? |
| 18:06.51 | cr2 | i switch js off anyway. |
| 18:07.04 | cr2 | don't know. |
| 18:07.19 | cr2 | if it's a phone edition, they could have dropped it. |
| 18:07.56 | goxboxlive | BabelO If you are able to compile a console app from Opie why arent you able to compile opie-irc from opie then? |
| 18:08.20 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes why not |
| 18:08.51 | goxboxlive | i thought the qt2 and qt4 where totaly diffrent so you had to rewrite everything |
| 18:11.17 | cr2 | BabelO: can you crosscompile qlandkarte ? and tell me how to do it ? |
| 18:12.36 | BabelO | cr2: i can try tomorrow |
| 18:12.51 | cr2 | ok. thanks. |
| 18:13.01 | BabelO | it depend ion libusb ? |
| 18:13.30 | cr2 | nice to have,but not important. |
| 18:13.37 | cr2 | libproj4 is in oe ? |
| 18:13.44 | cr2 | i think it should be |
| 18:13.54 | cr2 | because libgdal is certainly in oe. |
| 18:33.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: libproj-4 is suplied in OE |
| 18:33.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: DO you know if emdebian is worth trying out on Universal. |
| 18:34.44 | cr2 | goxboxlive: have not used it for years. |
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| 20:19.31 | cr2 | Kevin2: are you somewhere around ? |
| 20:22.54 | cr2 | read: '\x10\x00$PSRFTXT,Version GSWLT3.0.0-SDKHT_3.1.01.00-SDKLT001P1.00a *38\r\n' |
| 20:23.17 | cr2 | read: '$PSRFTXT,HTC 2006-OCT-03 EE*63\r\n' |
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| 20:28.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: see above. |
| 20:29.21 | goxboxlive | oh, i have to read the log then. hold on |
| 20:30.11 | goxboxlive | cr2: What's that? |
| 20:33.07 | cr2 | sirf messages about the firmware version. |
| 20:33.15 | cr2 | the rest is just normal nmea. |
| 20:33.31 | goxboxlive | ok, so you have it working allready? |
| 20:33.43 | cr2 | it#s a haret trace. |
| 20:33.51 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:33.59 | cr2 | i need to check some gpios, then it will be just working. |
| 20:34.08 | cr2 | power/reset. |
| 20:34.16 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 20:34.23 | goxboxlive | amazing |
| 20:34.27 | cr2 | so gps works. |
| 20:34.47 | cr2 | wifi does not send bulk data over SDIO. |
| 20:34.52 | cr2 | that#s good. |
| 20:35.09 | cr2 | brobably HTC just obfuscated init a bit. |
| 20:35.38 | cr2 | SDIO is similar to pcmcia . tuples & stuff. |
| 20:36.55 | cr2 | maybe it's the same on hermes. need to ask Kevin2 |
| 20:37.14 | cr2 | another good thing about athena is that the PXA27x SDIO is actually supported in linux. |
| 20:37.22 | cr2 | i#ve also traced the touchscreen and battery monitor. |
| 20:37.58 | cr2 | it's an ad7877, like on apache of Kevin2, and the driver is already written. |
| 20:40.01 | goxboxlive | So you are actually as far as we are with Uni soon :-) |
| 20:40.14 | cr2 | the mic switcher is on ak4641. that's good. |
| 20:40.21 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:40.35 | cr2 | yes, but the remaining things are tough. |
| 20:40.47 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:40.57 | cr2 | sound/miniSD/3Mpix CAM. |
| 20:41.04 | cr2 | these will be difficult. |
| 20:41.11 | goxboxlive | also minSD? |
| 20:41.22 | cr2 | yes, it's on ATI chip. |
| 20:41.32 | goxboxlive | How will yu manage to run a Opie/x11 image on it then? |
| 20:41.52 | cr2 | like on hermes, so have documented the registers a bit. |
| 20:42.15 | cr2 | need the HDD :) |
| 20:42.39 | cr2 | or g4, but it is also not supported on universal. |
| 20:43.09 | goxboxlive | right. So you are tracing the HDD now. |
| 20:43.14 | cr2 | i need to learn more about HDD. |
| 20:43.33 | cr2 | i've found the backlight and LCD power gpios. |
| 20:43.43 | cr2 | so it will work. |
| 20:44.23 | cr2 | some ATI video regs are different. so it's not just the VSFB or w100fb ;) |
| 20:44.53 | cr2 | i use VSFB now, but obviously can't suspend it. |
| 20:45.21 | cr2 | the resume process is more complex than on the uni, but also not so bizarre like on BA. |
| 20:45.34 | cr2 | something in the middle :) |
| 20:46.43 | cr2 | but the phone/HSDPA will be tricky. all the communication goes through custom DPRAM chip. no serial ports anymore. |
| 20:47.18 | cr2 | and most likely no ttyUSB0 like on universal. |
| 20:48.35 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.56 | cr2 | don't know it's purpose. |
| 20:48.59 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.09 | cr2 | it's probably the videophone CAM. |
| 20:49.23 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.28 | cr2 | TS and battery. |
| 20:49.43 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.48 | cr2 | that's something new. |
| 20:49.58 | cr2 | not used on all other phones. |
| 20:50.17 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.27 | cr2 | BTW, do we use it on the universal ??? |
| 20:50.53 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.55 | cr2 | wifi |
| 20:51.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.13 | cr2 | this is a puzzle. |
| 20:51.27 | cr2 | there is no IR on the device. |
| 20:51.40 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.43 | cr2 | backlight. |
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| 21:18.30 | goxboxlive | ipw2200 is so unstable |
| 21:22.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: How is the keyboard connected? |
| 21:22.29 | goxboxlive | is it connection or is it BT? |
| 21:23.43 | cr2 | where ? |
| 21:26.58 | goxboxlive | cr2: athena |
| 21:28.50 | cr2 | spi |
| 21:28.50 | cr2 | physical copper contacts :) |
| 21:28.51 | cr2 | imho, they will be filled with dust and other junk very fast. |
| 21:28.52 | cr2 | not very smart design. |
| 21:29.03 | goxboxlive | ok, do you have it working? |
| 21:29.11 | cr2 | working ? |
| 21:29.21 | cr2 | i'm mainly in haret. |
| 21:29.37 | cr2 | it boots off the ramdisk, like hermes. |
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| 21:29.51 | cr2 | can't connect over usb |
| 21:29.58 | cr2 | because the puen is on CPLD |
| 21:29.58 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:30.07 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 21:30.07 | cr2 | and there is no driver yet. |
| 21:30.16 | cr2 | but it's very easy to do. |
| 21:30.21 | goxboxlive | :) |
| 21:30.30 | cr2 | we just want to have a common driver for all htc cplds. |
| 21:31.02 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 21:31.42 | cr2 | if i'll find the driver for usb host, then i can connect a real HDD :) |
| 21:31.49 | cr2 | 250GB or something. |
| 21:31.54 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:32.05 | cr2 | raid1 |
| 21:32.22 | cr2 | what about a780 ? |
| 21:32.23 | goxboxlive | That will look fancy on the street. :-) |
| 21:32.31 | goxboxlive | what about it? |
| 21:32.37 | cr2 | i've compiled opie from angstrom |
| 21:32.48 | cr2 | but is the pxa-camera driver included ? |
| 21:32.48 | goxboxlive | for A780 |
| 21:32.51 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:33.02 | goxboxlive | i have no idea, i can ask stefan |
| 21:33.19 | cr2 | we want a common driver. |
| 21:35.58 | goxboxlive | it's not included |
| 21:37.52 | cr2 | will it be included ? |
| 21:37.52 | cr2 | isp1582function.dll |
| 21:38.31 | goxboxlive | cr2: He shoudl check something, i waiting |
| 21:38.50 | goxboxlive | stefan_schmidt> goxboxlive: slapin and drwyrm working on it. |
| 21:40.07 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:40.11 | cr2 | ahimm_dspimage.dl |
| 21:40.14 | cr2 | this is evil. |
| 21:40.29 | goxboxlive | stefan_schmidt> goxboxlive: The camera driver is also used on some palms it seems. slapin works on the pxa camera interface and wyrm has done some other work. |
| 21:40.29 | goxboxlive | <stefan_schmidt> goxboxlive: Best would be to coordinate with this two to avoid duplicated work |
| 21:40.55 | cr2 | ok, i know about it. |
| 21:40.59 | cr2 | ata_writeback.dll |
| 21:41.06 | cr2 | and no pcmcia.dll :) |
| 21:41.33 | cr2 | hehe. gsensor.dll |
| 21:44.43 | cr2 | ok, so the G-sensor is connected over i2c. |
| 21:44.56 | cr2 | and the HDD uses ATA interface on the epson chip. |
| 21:45.46 | cr2 | htc does many unexpected things. |
| 21:46.50 | cr2 | their hw engineers are cool :) throw all chips together and don't think about saving every cent like FIC. |
| 21:47.28 | cr2 | hehe. one can do it when is generously sponsored by an evil empire :) |
| 21:49.37 | goxboxlive | so will that make it easier or more difficult? |
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| 21:50.37 | stefan_schmidt | hi guys. I work on OpenEZX and OpenMoko. Just plan to idle here a bit. :) |
| 21:52.30 | goxboxlive | :) |
| 21:55.45 | dion | is't windows moblie one? |
| 21:56.40 | stefan_schmidt | dion: Until now, yes. And a chinese one which makes i hard for a german. :) |
| 21:57.03 | goxboxlive | stefan_schmidt, so you havent tried to boot linux on it yet? |
| 21:57.16 | stefan_schmidt | goxboxlive: no time :( |
| 21:57.23 | stefan_schmidt | OK, found it |
| 21:57.38 | dion | heh.. so many phones? |
| 21:57.43 | stefan_schmidt | dopod branding, IIRC that is a herald |
| 21:58.00 | stefan_schmidt | dion: Indeed to many phones and to little time |
| 21:59.04 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, it's this one: http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/06/htc-herald-unmasked/ |
| 21:59.31 | stefan_schmidt | We only played a bit with the usb-serial console so far |
| 22:00.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: Are there any supprt for HTC Herald yet? Isent it a OMAP cpu? |
| 22:01.10 | cr2 | hi stefan |
| 22:01.13 | cr2 | TI OMAP 850 |
| 22:01.20 | stefan_schmidt | hi cr2 |
| 22:01.24 | cr2 | that phone sucks. |
| 22:01.29 | stefan_schmidt | heh |
| 22:01.29 | cr2 | ;) |
| 22:01.35 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:01.41 | stefan_schmidt | np, I don't payed for it :) |
| 22:02.01 | cr2 | it uses RAM for gsm data |
| 22:02.10 | stefan_schmidt | wlan and the keyboard were the interesting bits |
| 22:02.12 | cr2 | and is completely undocumented. |
| 22:02.34 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: hmm, RAM for GSM data could even be nice :) |
| 22:03.00 | cr2 | yeah, you can see the realtime gsm data in /dev/mem |
| 22:03.08 | stefan_schmidt | So I guess nobody has booted linux on it? |
| 22:03.21 | cr2 | you can boot it, but it's not very useful. |
| 22:03.29 | cr2 | see htcwizard. |
| 22:03.35 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: cool, I take it with me to the GSM village at CCC Camp then. :) |
| 22:03.53 | cr2 | http://htcwizard.sf.net |
| 22:03.57 | stefan_schmidt | 404 |
| 22:04.10 | cr2 | sorry. |
| 22:04.12 | cr2 | http://linwizard.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:04.55 | cr2 | i'm playing with a new HSDPA toy instead. |
| 22:04.55 | stefan_schmidt | ok, I'll read it later tonight |
| 22:05.08 | cr2 | with 8GB microdrive. |
| 22:05.13 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:05.15 | stefan_schmidt | neat :) |
| 22:05.39 | cr2 | and 54mbit ACX100. let's hope it will work. |
| 22:05.54 | dion | :) |
| 22:06.00 | dion | stefan_schmidt: so you will have some more time for other devices :) |
| 22:06.06 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: proto or already available? |
| 22:06.21 | cr2 | t-mob ameo |
| 22:06.50 | stefan_schmidt | ah, the big one :) |
| 22:07.17 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch |
| 22:08.08 | cr2 | that's what i call a real PDA :) |
| 22:08.30 | cr2 | now i only need the data flatrate ... |
| 22:08.41 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: yeah, and I like phones instead of PDAs :) |
| 22:08.52 | stefan_schmidt | cr2: Which country? |
| 22:09.10 | cr2 | PDA as in PersonalDigitalAssistant |
| 22:09.13 | cr2 | ? |
| 22:09.37 | stefan_schmidt | More as in phone vs. pds form factor |
| 22:10.03 | stefan_schmidt | And of course I like it more as a real linux system not only PDA :) |
| 22:10.30 | cr2 | well, there are no more classic PDAs anymore. |
| 22:23.24 | cr2 | ok. a93 is not wifi. it's the hdd. |
| 22:24.45 | cr2 | a85 is sram. so sram is used for hdd. |
| 22:52.05 | goxboxlive | cr2: What if i try out your acx firmware. Do you think i will have "g" support on universal? |
| 23:02.02 | cr2 | hm. |
| 23:02.20 | cr2 | do you know how to reflash the chip after that ? |
| 23:04.18 | goxboxlive | reflash the rom? |
| 23:05.49 | cr2 | at least the eeprom. |
| 23:05.56 | cr2 | if it will be damaged. |
| 23:06.06 | cr2 | i don't know. |
| 23:06.11 | goxboxlive | well, the i wouldnt try |
| 23:06.41 | cr2 | you can try, but i doubt it will bring something. |
| 23:06.49 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 23:06.50 | cr2 | the chip is rated at 22Mbit |
| 23:07.00 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 23:07.02 | cr2 | and 54mbit chipset is different |
| 23:07.09 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 23:07.37 | cr2 | i've found the HDD control registers area. |
| 23:07.51 | goxboxlive | yes i saw :) |
| 23:08.02 | cr2 | the PXA sram is used as a transaction cache of something like that. |
| 23:08.24 | cr2 | and the g-sensor data can force fast HDD shutdown. |
| 23:09.24 | cr2 | we are not going to implement that, of course. |
| 23:09.53 | cr2 | i've tracked all the keyboard buttons. |
| 23:10.52 | cr2 | now i'm looking for Kevin2 |
| 23:10.56 | goxboxlive | you are really moving fast |
| 23:11.30 | cr2 | i've also logged the ak4641 i2c registers for mic/ext switching. |
| 23:11.50 | cr2 | well, it's fast in the areas where we already have much progress. |
| 23:12.18 | goxboxlive | right |
| 23:20.05 | cr2 | hm. interesting. |
| 23:30.53 | goxboxlive | what? |
| 23:41.53 | cr2 | the wlan driver stores some data in the SPL area. |
| 23:42.03 | cr2 | it will be overwritten by linux. |
| 23:42.21 | cr2 | and refuses to start if this data is incorrect. |
| 23:43.20 | cr2 | i still don't understand which memory area is used for communication. |