| 00:00.09 | Olipro | sorry mate |
| 00:00.11 | Olipro | I'm not trying to do what you are :P |
| 00:00.21 | cr2 | if you'll put your "new" SPL at that address, then you'll run the new SPL. |
| 00:00.22 | cr2 | but it may be bad for other reasons. |
| 00:00.31 | Olipro | no |
| 00:00.33 | Olipro | I wrote it |
| 00:00.35 | Olipro | then dumped it |
| 00:00.41 | Olipro | the kernel had started overwriting it |
| 00:00.51 | cr2 | because the SP and other things are hardcoded in the SPL. |
| 00:01.06 | Olipro | THE SPL WASN'T EVEN RUNNING |
| 00:01.26 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:01.32 | Olipro | I wrote the memory space, and it made Windows Mobile Crap itself |
| 00:01.39 | Olipro | please stop patronising me |
| 00:01.48 | cr2 | :) |
| 00:01.51 | cr2 | i do not. |
| 00:01.56 | Olipro | I don't know what kind of idiots you get in here |
| 00:02.00 | Olipro | but I'm not one of them |
| 00:02.23 | cr2 | you are not a very polite guy ;) |
| 00:02.31 | Olipro | sorry, I'm not |
| 00:02.34 | Olipro | it's late |
| 00:02.41 | cr2 | that's true. |
| 00:02.45 | Olipro | and I've had so many idiots on Xda-devs to deal with |
| 00:02.57 | cr2 | lol. |
| 00:03.08 | Olipro | but the issue remains... I need to kill WinCe and take control over it |
| 00:03.14 | Olipro | load the SPL afterward |
| 00:03.20 | Olipro | and jump to the IPL |
| 00:03.41 | cr2 | you kill wince by stopping irq and all dma. |
| 00:03.54 | cr2 | then you have full control over the machine. |
| 00:04.29 | Olipro | that's lovely... how |
| 00:04.55 | cr2 | look at the bootlinux() function in haret. |
| 00:05.04 | Olipro | I did |
| 00:05.12 | Olipro | so much of that seems to be extraneous... |
| 00:05.21 | Olipro | I can't tell what's crucial |
| 00:05.25 | Olipro | and what isn't |
| 00:05.30 | Olipro | Kevin2: are you there? |
| 00:05.57 | Olipro | cr2: not to mention there's a chunk of assembler in the process |
| 00:06.32 | Kevin2 | Yes - but I can't chat right now - be back in 5. |
| 00:06.38 | Olipro | ok |
| 00:07.26 | cr2 | after you have stopped irq and dma you need to disable mmu. |
| 00:07.26 | Olipro | I noticed |
| 00:07.33 | cr2 | because you are still using the wince page tables for the virtual addresses. |
| 00:07.50 | cr2 | disabling mmu is hardcore asm. |
| 00:07.59 | cr2 | you can't play arounf it. |
| 00:08.12 | Olipro | I'm not afraid of asm |
| 00:08.25 | cr2 | then you are in the normal physical addressing mode. |
| 00:08.33 | Olipro | but I need a bare essentials combination explanation |
| 00:09.19 | cr2 | then you can relocate your SPL, and do whatever you like. |
| 00:09.30 | cr2 | that are bare essentials. |
| 00:09.44 | Olipro | with no technical details whatsoever :P |
| 00:09.56 | Olipro | you're telling me what to do, not how to do it :P |
| 00:10.15 | cr2 | it's all done in bootlinux() :) |
| 00:10.32 | cr2 | instead of the zimage, you put your S |
| 00:10.34 | cr2 | PL |
| 00:10.34 | Olipro | once the mmu is dead, I'll bung in some in-line assembler to BX to the damn address |
| 00:10.50 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:11.06 | cr2 | and you need a bit more code to relocate your SPL where you need it. |
| 00:11.54 | cr2 | you can forget everything related to "tags" |
| 00:12.09 | cr2 | it's just a necessary step to boot the linux kernel on arm. |
| 00:13.18 | Olipro | you're not really telling me anything I didn't already guess |
| 00:14.06 | cr2 | ok, it's getting really late. good night |
| 00:14.11 | Olipro | bye |
| 00:18.30 | Kevin2 | Okay - I'm a bit confused by what you're currently working with. What version of HaRET did you base this code off of? |
| 00:18.55 | Kevin2 | Are the modifications in the haret preloader or some other area. |
| 00:19.15 | Kevin2 | If you made the changes to the preloader, then wince is dead and you can do whatever you want. |
| 00:19.36 | Kevin2 | If you didn't make the changes to the preloader, then I guess I don't know what it is you're trying to do. |
| 00:20.31 | Kevin2 | Olipro: Still here? |
| 00:20.38 | Olipro | yep |
| 00:20.55 | Olipro | Kevin2: to be perfectly frank, Pof sent me chunks of Haret code |
| 00:21.00 | Olipro | I know nothing about Haret |
| 00:21.32 | Olipro | pof hadn't managed to patch the IPL correctly |
| 00:21.33 | Olipro | so I did |
| 00:21.36 | Olipro | but it still failed |
| 00:21.44 | Olipro | checked the SPL |
| 00:21.57 | Olipro | sure enough, the kernel was corrupting that memory area |
| 00:22.03 | Kevin2 | I'm not sure what I can do to help unless I know what code you're working with. |
| 00:22.37 | Kevin2 | I suggest you pull out haret mainline and base your work off of that. See cvs.handhelds.org repository haret |
| 00:23.18 | Kevin2 | There are quite a few versions of haret floating around - the mainline haret code has the preloader written in C code. It also allows you to write directly to the framebuffer during boot. Working on prior versions is a real nightmare. |
| 00:23.50 | Olipro | Kevin2: now the kicker... I use Windows >_< |
| 00:24.33 | Kevin2 | Olipro: Ughh. You'll need linux to compile mainline haret now. |
| 00:24.42 | Olipro | thanks... I love you too |
| 00:24.45 | Olipro | :P |
| 00:24.51 | Olipro | I have a linux distro installed |
| 00:24.59 | Olipro | but I didn't want to have to use it :P |
| 00:26.00 | Kevin2 | The preloader code that lets you use C (and you definitely want that) requires gcc. It uses linker sections to relocate the code correctly. I don't know of any way to do that under MS. (Which doesn't mean it isn't possible, it just means I don't know how to do it.) |
| 00:26.21 | Olipro | heh |
| 00:27.53 | Kevin2 | What's the physical address the SPL needs to be at? |
| 00:29.49 | bd2 | Kevin2, hi! have you tried ad7877 after adc changes? |
| 00:30.36 | Kevin2 | bd2: My apache has gone crazy on me. Last week the SD card was reporting random errors. This week, half the buttons on it don't work. |
| 00:31.16 | Kevin2 | It was my primary phone - so I'll probably have to replace it outright. |
| 00:31.42 | Kevin2 | So, long story short - no, I haven't yet tested it. Sorry. |
| 00:31.52 | bd2 | Kevin2, ah.. right. I recalling.. |
| 00:34.32 | Kevin2 | Olipro: The site at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET has directions for pulling haret from cvs (cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.handhelds.org:/cvs co haret). With that, you can find the build instructions in INSTALL. The key file to look at is src/linboot.cpp - the key function is preloader(). |
| 00:35.12 | Olipro | thanks :) |
| 00:38.47 | Kevin2 | If you want to play with a recent version, you can grab: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070415.exe -- create a "default.txt" file that has two lines: "set zimage myspl" and "boot". It wont work, but you can get the feel for the diagnostics of haret. (You should see all the FB_PRINTF strings in the framebuffer. |
| 00:41.26 | Kevin2 | Good night. |
| 00:42.08 | bd2 | gn Kevin2 |
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| 11:11.27 | goxboxlive | well it's quite here during the day. |
| 11:16.08 | goxboxlive | cr2 are you here? |
| 11:27.02 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 11:32.21 | cr2 | рш |
| 11:32.46 | cr2 | hm. keyboard went crazy :) |
| 11:33.17 | cr2 | BabelO: does the current CVS work for you ? |
| 11:35.21 | BabelO | hi cr2, i m at work, but have to try it this evening |
| 11:35.45 | BabelO | ... Keyboard on BA need some attention too like wifi ;) |
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| 11:47.45 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
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| 11:48.24 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: did you see my rfc plan on converting to machine-static SoC irq bases? |
| 11:49.49 | BabelO | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 11:49.58 | psokolovsky_ | hi |
| 11:57.58 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: any news about wifi on h4000 ? |
| 11:58.14 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: nope ;-( |
| 11:59.54 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: it seems that is like if an antenna power is missing |
| 12:00.36 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: most important thing I see on h4000 is that IRQs are not being delivered to CPU |
| 12:01.25 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: see http://bugzilla.handhelds.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1821 |
| 12:01.41 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: if you can provide comparable dump for BA, that would be appreciated |
| 12:03.11 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: ok i note this and try a dump for this evening |
| 12:22.10 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: our problem with acx are the same line by line, log are similar |
| 12:22.57 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: and we see two gpio using Haret like you, one is IRQ, and other ??? |
| 12:23.03 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: yep, so that's it. let's join the forces ;-). I guess wince hacking guru like cr2 would help here ;-) |
| 12:23.56 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: if you mean irq tracing in haret, Kevin2's comment was that another "irq" is artifact of tracing code, which was written for pxa27x |
| 12:24.10 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: yes, he say something about wince pcmcia that is doing something more |
| 12:24.30 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: I contacted Bill Reese (acx-mem author) for help, but haven't heard from him since initial ack that he'd be glad to help, if he could |
| 12:25.29 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: from myself, I can say that I spent 3 night disassembling both pcmcia and acx drivers, and anything outstanding I could spotted, I tried in linux. nill. |
| 12:26.13 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: On BA we have GPIO 17 for Irq and another GPIO 75 related input |
| 12:27.05 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: did you see that gpio75 is used anyhow by wince? all I saw in h4000 code is that it's direction is flipped, that's all. |
| 12:31.34 | BabelO | psokolovsky_: in haret i don't remember exactly, but isee is direction change from output to input before starting ACX |
| 12:32.20 | psokolovsky_ | BabelO: yep, exactly. but nothing besides that, even after looking thru driver code. |
| 12:35.05 | cr2 | gpio75 is changed to input in the pcmcia.dll at startup and powerup. |
| 12:35.24 | cr2 | sometimes something pops up there, but very seldom. |
| 12:36.00 | cr2 | maybe i should add the direction change to blueangel_acx.c |
| 12:36.25 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: just in case, and you'd like to compare with h4000's stuff, I can offer my ida dbs for it ;-) (if you don't have that yourself ;-) ) |
| 12:37.05 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: tiacxwln ? |
| 12:37.12 | BabelO | cr2: and i ve an logic analyzer for you ;) but not high speed |
| 12:37.19 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: and pcmcia.dll too ;-) |
| 12:37.56 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: i have both :) but tiacxwln is such complex ;) |
| 12:38.35 | cr2 | on some devices the tiacxwln is patched to include gpios, but on others it's completely "portable" |
| 12:38.35 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: and I hope you're ok with my plan on irq_base refactor for SoCs. I hope to start adding htcuniversal.h, etc. later today. |
| 12:38.58 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: i have one question about h3900 |
| 12:39.11 | cr2 | how will you deal with the asic2+asic3 combo ? |
| 12:39.24 | cr2 | afaik no other devices uses 2 socs. |
| 12:39.51 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: #define ASIC2_BASE one_value #define ASIC3_BASE one_value + something |
| 12:40.14 | cr2 | how will you calculate the NR_IRQS |
| 12:40.37 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: what we change is method of allocating irq ranges. for drivers, irq range is still dynamic. |
| 12:40.59 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: my yesterday's mail to k-d has easy proposal for that: |
| 12:41.09 | cr2 | ok, but what will be the NR_IRQS for h3900 ? |
| 12:41.24 | cr2 | yes, i have read it. |
| 12:41.27 | psokolovsky_ | have CONFIG_SMALL_BOARD_IRQ_MAP to reserve, say, 16 board irqs, |
| 12:41.38 | psokolovsky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.40 | psokolovsky_ | voila ;-) |
| 12:41.46 | cr2 | ok. |
| 12:43.26 | cr2 | we can actually gather statistics for all implemented socs. |
| 12:43.26 | cr2 | or being implemented now, i.e. htc cplds |
| 12:43.26 | psokolovsky_ | yep, we could. what's important, that we don't have too ;-) |
| 12:43.27 | psokolovsky_ | that's kind of optmization, which can be left for later time |
| 12:43.27 | cr2 | yes, but 96 should be a reasonable value without any black magic behind :) |
| 12:43.29 | psokolovsky_ | if we aim for common inter-device kernel, we'll need to use max anyway, and what that max is, is another question, for now we can use 96, which adds some gap ;-) |
| 12:43.35 | psokolovsky_ | yeah! |
| 12:43.54 | cr2 | good. |
| 12:44.41 | cr2 | do we already have "is_gpio_in/out"-type functions ? |
| 12:45.19 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: i.e for checking direction of gpio? |
| 12:45.24 | cr2 | then there are write-only gpios. |
| 12:45.28 | cr2 | yes. |
| 12:46.44 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: nope, there's no such api at all. and I'm not sure we need it. I saw that wince indeed uses such logic, but in linux, we can just set direction to known value, and assume it is such |
| 12:47.00 | psokolovsky_ | and I for sure don't think that there's any magic in what wince does ;-) |
| 12:47.28 | cr2 | i need to write a cpld driver now, which has some banks of 16bit write-only gpios, and a 16line irq controller. |
| 12:47.43 | cr2 | well, hx4700 does the same as wince with egpio. |
| 12:48.32 | cr2 | there is a cached copy, which is updated at the same time with writing to the register. |
| 12:48.39 | psokolovsky_ | well, dunno then. I'd assume, if gpio is O only, we'd never pass it anywhere where I is required, and vice-versa. |
| 12:49.15 | cr2 | bt/wifi led enable on universal is writeonly. |
| 12:50.16 | cr2 | ok, just something to keep in mind. |
| 12:50.26 | psokolovsky_ | well, ok, as I say, dunno, please do it like it should be done. keeping a cache is nice idea, of course. actually, necessity. |
| 12:59.20 | BabelO | goxboxlive: are you around ? |
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| 12:59.48 | BabelO | goxboxlive: is Helix released for OE |
| 13:05.06 | goxboxlive | hi babelO i'm around, have no idea. let me check |
| 13:06.37 | goxboxlive | babelO: No, it's not there |
| 13:08.11 | BabelO | goxboxlive: :( |
| 13:08.25 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i see that a GPE phone edition exist ;) nice |
| 13:08.39 | BabelO | http://gpephone.linuxtogo.org/index.php |
| 13:11.26 | goxboxlive | babelO: i know, I have tried to build it but it failes with some gtk stuff. |
| 13:11.38 | goxboxlive | I have tried it out on my A780 though, and it loos nice |
| 13:13.05 | BabelO | how it communicate with phone modem ? gsmd too ? |
| 13:13.42 | goxboxlive | i dont know, i didnt work when i tried it out. |
| 13:22.04 | BabelO | ok phone is using phoneserver app in background |
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| 15:13.37 | twostupiddogs | or it is a combination of angstrom-console + opie and more stuff? |
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| 15:14.44 | BabelO | rmoravcik: hi :) |
| 15:14.54 | rmoravcik | BabelO: hi |
| 15:15.23 | BabelO | rmoravcik: i speak with asylumed yesturday about ds1wm he say that we have same problem, sometimes ds1wm return 0x00 and 0xff |
| 15:16.38 | BabelO | rmoravcik: my asic3_irq_demux is solved when i start another module blueangel_kp, asylumed say that is because it read SPI or something like that |
| 15:17.05 | BabelO | rmoravcik: maybe he send you an email about this |
| 15:17.32 | rmoravcik | BabelO: he send me mail about his ds1wm patch |
| 15:19.35 | rmoravcik | BabelO: he added reading ds1wm interrupt reg to the end of the irq handler function |
| 15:22.45 | BabelO | rmoravcik: ok, do you already try it on rx3000 ? |
| 15:23.15 | rmoravcik | BabelO: no yet, but i want test it now |
| 15:23.24 | BabelO | rmoravcik: BA freeze only if i keep apmd daemon running, because of continuous read |
| 15:26.07 | BabelO | rmoravcik: ok tell me if it is better ;) |
| 15:26.32 | rmoravcik | BabelO: ok |
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| 15:41.51 | rmoravcik | BabelO: it seems it's working without apmd :-) |
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| 15:54.10 | BabelO | rmoravcik: you apply patch to ds1wm ? |
| 15:59.50 | rmoravcik | BabelO: no, only turn off apmd |
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| 16:23.59 | BabelO | rmoravcik: if we have same problem as we, after some time, you can't do a cat /sys/class/battery/main-battery/current |
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| 16:56.52 | asylumed | cr2: hey |
| 16:57.02 | asylumed | cr2: awesome job getting sound to work :) |
| 16:58.00 | rmoravcik | asylumed: hi |
| 16:59.27 | asylumed | rmoravcik: hi |
| 16:59.41 | asylumed | rmoravcik: you get my mail? |
| 17:00.06 | cr2 | asylumed: you should thank BabelO :) |
| 17:00.24 | asylumed | BabelO: thx dude :P |
| 17:00.25 | cr2 | i've only fixed the bugs |
| 17:00.38 | rmoravcik | asylumed: yes, but it seems doesn't help me, but turning off apmd yes |
| 17:01.17 | asylumed | rmoravcik: bugger... |
| 17:02.31 | cr2 | asylumed: does the CVS kernel work for you ? |
| 17:02.49 | asylumed | yip... |
| 17:03.04 | asylumed | cr2: i've made very few changes.. |
| 17:03.06 | cr2 | i've added the reg/val pairs for boardid6 LCD. |
| 17:03.36 | cr2 | we need to check the timing, and if it is really spi. i think it is. |
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| 17:21.31 | goxboxlive | good evening |
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| 17:32.28 | ellisway | evening goxboxlive |
| 17:38.30 | goxboxlive | hi ellisway |
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| 17:53.04 | ellisway | hows it going |
| 17:53.23 | goxboxlive | just fine, and you? |
| 17:53.32 | ellisway | not 2 bad |
| 17:53.32 | BabelO | hi |
| 17:53.51 | goxboxlive | hii BabelO |
| 17:53.55 | ellisway | spent a day on a training coarse with solwise and senoa yesterday |
| 17:54.38 | ellisway | senao even |
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| 18:30.54 | goxboxlive | how can i browse thw openmoko source, and see older changes |
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| 18:36.07 | BabelO | goxboxlive: do you use svn for openmoko sources ? |
| 18:37.20 | goxboxlive | BabelO yes ti get it localy. But i am looking for a svn-web so i can see the diffs |
| 18:37.51 | BabelO | you can see other revision so |
| 18:38.43 | goxboxlive | how? |
| 18:39.04 | BabelO | can you send me svn-web link of file please |
| 18:39.16 | goxboxlive | for gsmd? |
| 18:39.37 | BabelO | yes |
| 18:41.51 | goxboxlive | i dont know wich file that may be? WHat's the name of it? Is it in the .svn folder? |
| 18:44.34 | BabelO | you want modification of gsmd from when ? |
| 18:46.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: svn diff gsmd.c -r 790 |
| 18:46.41 | BabelO | with revision number or same with date |
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| 18:47.10 | goxboxlive | hmm ok thx |
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| 19:07.32 | goxboxlive | cr2: are you here? |
| 19:48.12 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes. |
| 19:52.46 | goxboxlive | cr2: It seem like we can have g_ether compiled in to the kernel. We dont need it as a module anymore |
| 20:00.11 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i think it was always so. |
| 20:00.30 | goxboxlive | No,we have had it as a module |
| 20:01.33 | cr2 | but it was always possible to compile it into the kernel. |
| 20:02.24 | goxboxlive | why havent done it then? |
| 20:02.35 | cr2 | don't know. |
| 20:02.51 | goxboxlive | then we should do it, dont you think so too? |
| 20:03.13 | BabelO | goxboxlive: if you compile g_ether in kernel, you can't use other usb gadget :( |
| 20:03.14 | cr2 | i think you should also do 'ifup usb0' at boot :) |
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| 20:03.55 | goxboxlive | Well that's not up to me. It is default in busybox |
| 20:04.06 | goxboxlive | but i guess it does auto up |
| 20:04.27 | goxboxlive | it's a long time since i had that. I am just using that localy now. |
| 20:04.59 | goxboxlive | If it's not up at boot you should add 'auto sub0'in your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 20:05.09 | goxboxlive | s/sub0/usb0/ |
| 20:06.42 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:07.04 | cr2 | but it's better to have it up in the distribution. |
| 20:07.58 | goxboxlive | i agree, i'll check if it is or not. Actually, now lately it hasent. It is because OE has changed some stuff in task-base wich has caused the modules not to be autoloaded. |
| 20:08.17 | goxboxlive | That is why i tried to build it in to zImage |
| 20:08.46 | goxboxlive | But i guess interfacses shoudl have auto usb0 default, but it require that the module is loaded |
| 20:09.22 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:10.07 | cr2 | BabelO: can you remind me what was the status of your qtopia dialer ? |
| 20:10.43 | BabelO | cr2: it works, but only with gnokii, maybe need to clean it ;) and use gsmd instead |
| 20:11.29 | BabelO | cr2: mising incoming call, i can monitor call and sms, but no more, don't know how to access qtopia already builtin interface |
| 20:13.27 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:15.38 | BabelO | cr2: i try this week end to remove gnokii and add gsmd instead |
| 20:17.39 | cr2 | it does not really matter on the universal. |
| 20:17.49 | cr2 | and gsmd can't even send sms. |
| 20:17.56 | goxboxlive | Well i had my first official call with the uni and openmoko dialer. No complaines about the sound in the other end |
| 20:18.09 | goxboxlive | well done cr2 |
| 20:22.10 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:22.10 | cr2 | what about answering the call ? |
| 20:24.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: Thats not a problem, it works too |
| 20:24.50 | cr2 | but it's opie+moko-dialer ? |
| 20:25.16 | goxboxlive | The only visual bug is when the other part abort a call (while in a call, or before i answer it) |
| 20:25.55 | goxboxlive | if that happends, the openmoko-dialer just keeps it status ( warning incomming call or talk in progress) |
| 20:26.00 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes |
| 20:26.25 | goxboxlive | But, it'snot a problem to have it supported in openmoko or x11 either |
| 20:26.26 | BabelO | cr2: you see gpephone ? ;) |
| 20:26.33 | goxboxlive | I am using a mixed versionof gsmd |
| 20:26.35 | cr2 | why doesn't it work on the "standard openmoko" |
| 20:26.47 | goxboxlive | wich standard openmoko? |
| 20:26.53 | cr2 | BabelO: do we need 3 gtk phone apps ? |
| 20:26.56 | goxboxlive | the one in OE? |
| 20:27.20 | cr2 | goxboxlive: isn#t there an openmoko distribution without opie ? |
| 20:27.23 | BabelO | cr2: i don't no, but it look nice |
| 20:28.09 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes it is, but i have only made one version of it and it is so time consuming to build it |
| 20:28.29 | cr2 | BabelO: i doubt these 3 programs have the same API, so this fragmentation is really painful. |
| 20:28.53 | cr2 | goxboxlive: will they ever fix the anongit problem ? |
| 20:29.19 | goxboxlive | but with angstrom-openmoko you will have full support with the phone if i make a image. But i should have solved the incomming call yet (when it's aborted form the other side) |
| 20:29.48 | cr2 | isn't it a gsmd issue ? |
| 20:29.58 | goxboxlive | cr2, i have no idea. Wich file do you need? I can mail it to you with the md5sum file. Just paste it in your source directory |
| 20:30.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes it is |
| 20:30.50 | cr2 | i'll try to build openmoko. |
| 20:31.13 | goxboxlive | but you will not have pone support with the version in OE now. |
| 20:32.23 | cr2 | why? |
| 20:32.49 | goxboxlive | cr2: Because there where some update in the gsmd source and pH5 hasent updated the patches to it yet. |
| 20:33.16 | goxboxlive | He was going to meet harald today to discuss gsmd so i guess we will have it soon |
| 20:33.34 | goxboxlive | As i said, i am using a home made mixed :) source now? |
| 20:33.54 | goxboxlive | s/?/ ./ |
| 20:35.03 | cr2 | i hate patches. |
| 20:35.07 | goxboxlive | i canbuild a openmoko-custom image and upload it if you like |
| 20:35.11 | goxboxlive | me too |
| 20:35.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:35.30 | cr2 | afaik i've never suggested you to apply a kernel patch :) |
| 20:35.40 | goxboxlive | have to finish a new opie image first. |
| 20:35.52 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:35.53 | goxboxlive | cr2: I havent aplied a kernel patch |
| 20:36.02 | goxboxlive | just gsmd patch |
| 20:36.20 | cr2 | opie build out of the box without any hacks. |
| 20:37.23 | goxboxlive | no, but my hack like multiple shell ([FN+F1 ........F4) seint aporved by the koen |
| 20:37.58 | cr2 | ok, by why do you need multiple shell ? |
| 20:38.06 | goxboxlive | i think it builds, if it dont the it isent because of universal. But i am building for HEAD and not 1.2.2 so i dont know if 1.2.2 builds. |
| 20:38.42 | cr2 | i build what is in oe, and it builds. |
| 20:38.47 | cr2 | NOTE: The locapath does not exist '${HOME}/sources/bluez-utils-3.9.tar.gz' |
| 20:38.48 | cr2 | NOTE: Task failed: Checksum of 'http://bluez.sourceforge.net/download/bluez-utils-3.9.tar.gz' failed |
| 20:38.48 | cr2 | NOTE: package bluez-utils-3.9-r4: task do_fetch: failed |
| 20:39.04 | goxboxlive | the HEAD doesnt build, have to change something in a couple of files to let it build. But no mather what i tell the OE guyes they are saying build from a tagged version, not form HEAD |
| 20:39.34 | cr2 | ok, a moving target is bad. |
| 20:39.44 | goxboxlive | cr2:ARent you using miltiple shells with your laptop? |
| 20:39.46 | cr2 | moko failed here -> |
| 20:43.11 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but not on the phone :) |
| 20:43.11 | goxboxlive | Of course we need that. In example i start gsmd and looks at the dmesg in another shell. |
| 20:43.12 | goxboxlive | What we have ois not a phone |
| 20:43.13 | goxboxlive | If it was just a phone iwould never bought it |
| 20:43.14 | cr2 | ok . |
| 20:43.16 | cr2 | something is broken in the bluez-utils*.bb |
| 20:43.17 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:43.17 | goxboxlive | it has been updated today. Have you pulled monotone? |
| 20:43.21 | goxboxlive | starting building openmoko now |
| 20:43.22 | cr2 | yes. |
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| 20:45.07 | goxboxlive | Just so you know, the image is without g_ether module. You have to compile it in to your kernel or use the one i upload |
| 20:46.16 | cr2 | ok, i'll use yours. |
| 20:58.47 | goxboxlive | i am testing it now before i uploading it |
| 21:03.29 | goxboxlive | oh i forgot, i havent finished my custom image yet. Buidling openmoko-devel-image now.IT's mostly done, so it wouldnt take much time |
| 21:09.22 | goxboxlive | Funklord: Seems like you have dome something to my account. I cant log in |
| 21:12.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: i cant upload image, i cant connect to Funklords ftp server |
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| 21:15.02 | goxboxlive | And the angstrom-openmoko image isnt any good at all. It doesntuse the openmoko theme. |
| 21:15.16 | goxboxlive | It use some matchbox themes, looks ugly |
| 21:16.00 | goxboxlive | And it's not updated at all. I'll try to make a custom image tomorrow. Its getting late now.good night |
| 21:20.06 | RoEn_PC | gn8 |
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