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09:28.47lkclfluffs: the guys doing the rx1950 are on irc.oftc.net, #1950 (i think that's the right channel)
09:32.56lkclok - i'm thinking of its predecessor.
09:33.08psokolovsky_Hi!
09:33.31psokolovsky_Victor9, who submitted it to CVS, appears here too (on #hh)
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09:38.58goxboxlivehi lkcl. Just the man i am looking for. You see i am about buying me self a A780. It is not for sale here in Norway, and on Ebay they wouldnt sell their devices out UK or Germany. I know you have a lots of phones. Do you have a A780 wich just collect dust and not in use for sale :-)
09:46.45lkcli have two A780s - one of them is xxxxed.
09:47.01lkclthe only way to get it repaired is to get its PCB replaced.
09:47.12lkclor to do JTAG reprogramming (!!!!)
09:47.35lkclapparently it _does_ get half way through the bootloader process but then shags up.
09:50.38goxboxliveok is both of them with GPS and maps for Norway?
09:52.01lkclno idea.
09:52.35goxboxliveDo you want to sell the working one (it has to have gps and maps for europe)
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10:27.47goxboxlivepH5 have you tested gpephone on your device yet?
10:28.57pH5goxboxlive: only the phoneserver backend, I didn't try the UI.
10:29.50pH5unfortunately the ui will run on the magician much easier than the vga openmoko stuff, but the openmoko gsmd is much cleaner than gpephone's phoneserver...
10:29.56goxboxlivepH5 ok, have you been able to build the UI with OE? Mine is failing when it bulds libvocenebaler
10:30.05goxboxliveok i c
10:30.18pH5I built libvocenabler. what is your problem?
10:30.26goxboxlivehold on i pastebin
10:31.52goxboxlivepastebin.ca/360234
11:30.06pH5ah, that is a problem with OE's linphone (it installs a broken linphone.pc)
11:30.09pH5you have to use the linphone.bb that is inside the gpephone directory (1.5.0 instead of 1.6.0)
11:30.10goxboxliveah right
11:30.11goxboxlivethank you
11:30.11pH5bbl
11:31.14goxboxlivelkcl: I sendt you a mail. It's easier.
11:31.28lkclokie
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11:40.06fluffsmorning
11:41.51pH5hi fluffs
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13:07.15RoEn_PChello friends, where is the newest/best howto for newbie with HTC Universal  ?
13:12.00goxboxlive<RoEn_PC> hi, what do you mean by newest?
13:12.05goxboxliveThere is one at hh.org
13:14.21RoEn_htchi goxboxlive
13:15.05RoEn_htchmmm, i would change my os on htc
13:15.27RoEn_htcon pc i*m working with debian_sidux
13:15.29RoEn_htc:)
13:18.01goxboxliveyou cabt change your OS, but you are able to run Linux on your universal. But you have to have wince installed to start linux.
13:18.07goxboxlives/cabt/cant/
13:19.09RoEn_htcooook, then i would work with my htc with linux on wince basic :D
13:19.56RoEn_htci found on ftp in folder Linux same files
13:20.25goxboxliveI dont know what you mean, but you start linux as you start a normal application. The only differ is that wince will reset and linux will start. To start up wince again you have to type reboot form terminal in linux
13:20.25RoEn_htci made on SD 2 partitions , fat16 and ext3
13:20.33goxboxlivegood
13:20.51goxboxlivefollow the instruction and you are up running linux. :-)
13:20.53RoEn_htcgoxboxlive: wow
13:21.27goxboxliveAndit wouldnt hurt your wince os
13:21.27RoEn_htchmm, i have kernel panic with gpe-unuversial-RO.2
13:22.01goxboxliveok, forget thoose
13:22.09goxboxliveimages, they are obselute
13:22.16goxboxliveuse the ones in the snapshot folder
13:22.21RoEn_htcaaaa
13:22.27goxboxliveand follow the instructions
13:22.28RoEn_htcmom, im looking
13:23.39RoEn_htcwhere there are _
13:23.41RoEn_htc?
13:28.17goxboxlive<RoEn_htc> first of all, wich wiki are you using?
13:28.40goxboxlivehttp://gnulinux.biz/files//Universal/sd-mmc/snapshot/
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13:30.18goxboxlivehttp://gnulinux.biz/files//Universal/sd-mmc/snapshot/
13:30.23RoEn__htcthx
15:03.19goxboxliveand read the text files and you will have it running
15:03.19RoEn__htcoooooooook
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15:05.40RoEn_PChmmm
15:05.41RoEn_PCChoose wich image you want to run, GPE , OPIE , Bootstrap-image or OpenMoko   ???
15:05.41RoEn_PCwhat is the best for stupid user ? :D
15:05.46lama_nokia series 40;]
15:05.53goxboxlive<RoEn_PC> I think opie or GPE
15:05.54goxboxliveBootstrap is just the shell and OpenMoko it's a new image withc is just basic, no extra stuff added. It is also very unstable so far
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15:06.18RoEn_PCook
15:06.28RoEn_PCgoxboxlive: Make sure the Phone is on and connected -  connected with ????
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15:06.39goxboxlive??? where
15:06.40goxboxliveif you have made an ext 3 partition, just do
15:06.40RoEn_PChttp://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux
15:06.41RoEn_PCThen do as follows
15:06.41RoEn_PCCopy files from the C:\Linux\Ramdisk folder to \My Documents\Linux on your device
15:06.41RoEn_PCPlug the power cable into the device, Put the SD card into the device (All data will be erased)
15:06.42RoEn_PCMake sure the Phone is on and connected
15:06.42RoEn_PCGo to \My Documents\Linux and hit gnuharet.exe Click Run The screen will get some funny colors and seem freezed, don't freak out :-) its normal
15:06.42RoEn_PCLogin
15:06.43RoEn_PC[15:18:32] <RoEn_PC> Make sure the Phone is on and connected
15:06.45goxboxlivei'll check
15:06.45goxboxliveif you have a ext3 partition on your sd card you are ready to run
15:06.46goxboxlivejust untar the the gui image to the ext3 partition and run linux from the fat partition
15:06.46RoEn_PCok :)
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15:08.21alt_Hi, folks. Someone has any expiriences with magician and linux?
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15:08.33pH5alt_: quite a lot
15:08.47alt_cool =)
15:09.04alt_my touchsreen doesnt work with 2.6.20
15:09.20alt_but with 2.6.19
15:09.31alt_and in 2.6.19 is not phone support
15:11.00pH5alt_: in 2.6.20 there are dual touchscreen drivers, we have to sort that out
15:11.11pH5rmmod magician_ts ads7846ts-ssp ads7846-adc-ssp
15:11.28pH5and then modprobe either magician_ts or ads7846ts-ssp, but not both
15:11.46pH5the phone should work in all versions, though..
15:11.50alt_ok, how can i get console after boot?
15:12.04pH5ssh via usbnet
15:12.05alt_ive got only this collibrating thing
15:12.52alt_ok
15:13.00alt_ill try it now
15:13.32alt_and one more thing, is there a way to reboot without to make hardreset?
15:13.45alt_if i press reset i see nothing but a black screen
15:14.50pH5alt_: there isn't any other way for now.
15:14.59alt_ok, it not so bad
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15:19.07alt_hmm, i was asked about password, is there something like standartpassword?
15:21.02alt_ok, its passwd
15:22.04alt_ok, its not passwd =)
15:22.13alt_anyone an idea
15:22.13pH5depends on the image. in my debug builds, root pwd is empty
15:22.35alt_i boot 2.6.20-rc7
15:23.01alt_is there some docu were i can read it all
15:23.55pH5documentation about what?
15:24.40alt_about kernel
15:25.12alt_its not really cool to ask every little thing, but i really have no idea where i can find it
15:27.59pH5documentation of the magician specific stuff? not really. kernel development is mostly discussed on the mailing lists.
15:28.06alt_its also not rootme as for himalaya
15:28.26pH5the password has nothing to do with the kernel. it depends on your userspace image
15:29.12alt_ok
15:30.03alt_if i boot kernel 2.6.18 and set the password and then boot the 20er kernel i could use the password i set?
15:30.44pH5exactly. the root/user password is stored in a file in the /etc/ directory
15:31.28alt_in plain text? or something like /etc/shadow?
15:33.12pH5alt_: /etc/shadow
15:33.19pH5alt_: and if you change the kernel, you will also have to install the corresponding modules into the userspace image.
15:33.51pH5maybe you switched the kernel to 2.6.20 and forgot to install 2.6.20 kernel modules in /lib/modules ?
16:49.11alt_yes, it is
16:49.12alt_how can i do this?
16:49.12alt_should i extract this modulefile from serves in lib/modules?
16:49.13pH5mount the rootfs on your computer like when you extracted the initial rootfs tarball and just extract the module tar.gz in / (lib/modules paths are contained in the filenames inside the tarball)
16:49.22pH5bbl
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18:09.09alt_it's working, thanks a lot
18:55.22alt_does phone work?
18:55.24alt_i have the same err message as with 2.6.19
18:55.25alt_cannot open ttys1
18:55.45alt_hey, pplz, anyone get gomunicator on magician to work??
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21:36.47*** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup.
21:37.19cr2~change 1000 EUR to UKP
21:37.40cr2lol
21:38.04goxboxlive:-)
21:38.29goxboxlive~change 1 EUR to GBP
21:38.57cr2~change 1 GBP to EUR
21:39.18pH5cr2: how far is hermes by now? do you get to a console on lcd?
21:39.30cr2pH5: unfortunately no.
21:40.16cr2i've decoded the NAND settings and all serial port settings.
21:41.10pH5how far does the boot process proceed?
21:41.19cr2black line.
21:42.58pH5:( haret magic
21:47.14cr2irda debug magic ;)
21:50.46cr2arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_cpld.c: In function 'magician_cpld_resume':
21:50.46cr2arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_cpld.c:284: warning: too many arguments for format
21:51.10cr2arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_ts.c: In function 'tssim_init':
21:51.11cr2arch/arm/mach-pxa/magician/magician_ts.c:764: error: request for member 'class' in something not a structure or union
21:52.34cr2latest CVS.
21:54.35goxboxlivepH5: Do you build linphone-1.5 with bitbake -b path_to_openmoko_linphone ?
21:57.53pH5goxboxlive: I did that, yes.
21:58.07pH5cr2: working on it. magician_ts needs an update for the battery class change.
21:58.49goxboxlivepH5 and you had no problems with Speex at all?
21:59.53pH5goxboxlive: oh. I had the dependencies built before.
21:59.59goxboxlivesorry ment gpephone not openmoko
22:00.16pH5goxboxlive: you can either build the dependencies manually or set linphone version to 1.5.0 via PREFERRED_VERSION in local.conf
22:00.26pH5and then run bitbake without -b
22:00.51goxboxliveYes, but the strange thing is that i have speex allready buildt
22:03.53goxboxlivehold on, i am on to something here
22:07.28pH5psokolovsky_: arch/arm/mach-pxa/built-in.o:(.data+0x169c): undefined reference to `ads7846_sense'
22:08.24psokolovsky_pH5, defconfig
22:10.43pH5psokolovsky_: CONFIG_ADC_ADS7846_SSP=m
22:11.10pH5That's not nice.
22:11.21psokolovsky_pH5, must be y ;-I. solution: virtual methods ;-I
22:23.05pH5I'll think about it. I don't like this at all.
22:23.54pH5Could we put the sense function into the data of the adc_dev and make adc-debounce get it through that?
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22:35.48psokolovsky_pH5, we should do just that. I call that "virtual methods", because that's what they essentially are.
22:37.47psokolovsky_pH5, http://paste.uni.cc/13211
22:59.30pH5psokolovsky_: I was thinking something like: http://en.pastebin.ca/361116
23:22.10goxboxlivecr2: What is flawless?
23:22.29goxboxlivecr2: SOrry it wasnt just for you, it was for everybody :-)
23:40.14cr2goxboxlive: did you upload these screenshots over wifi ?
23:40.25cr2http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=3
23:40.48goxboxlivecr2: no i used usb
23:41.18cr2it's a pity :)
23:42.01goxboxlive<PROTECTED>
23:42.19cr2can you upload them over wifi ?
23:42.22psokolovsky_pH5, so yeah, we basicly have two options to put vtable to - pdata or drvdata
23:42.48psokolovsky_pH5, kinda yeah, we've told that pdata is "readonly" and used only to pass data in to driver
23:43.27psokolovsky_pH5, but that's only half of truth. reak diff beyween them is that pdata is public vs drvdata is private members of object
23:43.49psokolovsky_and it's just the case that drivers usually don't pass data back for public consumption
23:44.11psokolovsky_but if we standardize on virtual method paradigm, that well can change
23:44.58psokolovsky_virt. methods are intended for public consumpion, so there's no reason to dig them into private drv structures. that's why I propose to put vtable to pdata.
23:45.23goxboxlivecr2: I havent got wifi working for a while now. I guess my interfaces file is corrupt. But you ccan also upload using wifi
23:48.38cr2goxboxlive: the wm8753 used by FIC (and the audio routing) is very close in design to universal.
23:49.04goxboxlivesounds good.
23:49.21pH5psokolovsky_: problem with vtable in pdata is that there might be non-platform adc drivers
23:50.16psokolovsky_pH5, but pdata is struct device stuff, not platform_device's. so, it's universal
23:50.57pH5ah ok.
23:51.02psokolovsky_pH5, unless you hint that for non-platform_device's pdata may be used for other things. then, adc driver would have to be platform ;-I
23:51.21psokolovsky_but I guss pdata is free for "user" stuff
23:51.58pH5anything that doesn't force me to reference functions exported from modules in magician.c makes me happy.
23:53.20psokolovsky_pH5, then let's try that approach, it's kinda more explicit and exposes all details, just provides convenience macros to deal with it more or less comfortably
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23:58.45pH5psokolovsky_: did you have a look at base/isa.c and linux/isa.h?
23:59.04pH5looks like we are duplicating basically the same functionality.
23:59.06psokolovsky_pH5, actually, no
23:59.14psokolovsky_let me look

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