| 00:00.35 | ljp | export QWS_MOUSE_PROTO=tslib:/dev/input/event1 or something |
| 00:00.44 | ljp | oh wait. heh |
| 00:01.01 | ljp | QWS_DISPLAY=LinuxFb |
| 00:02.01 | BabelO | maybe using strace |
| 00:02.03 | ljp | QWS_DISPLAY=LinuxFb:/dev/foo |
| 00:02.46 | BabelO | ok, so it is not framebuffer |
| 00:02.50 | BabelO | i try with strace |
| 00:03.28 | BabelO | ok :) |
| 00:04.33 | BabelO | http://pastebin.ca/285713 |
| 00:14.46 | ljp | hmm |
| 00:15.20 | BabelO | another idea ? |
| 00:16.19 | ljp | does /home/fcr/armlinux/opie/etc/default/Trolltech/qtopia_db.sqlite exist? |
| 00:16.37 | BabelO | yes |
| 00:16.42 | BabelO | :q |
| 00:16.48 | BabelO | SQlite format 3 |
| 00:16.54 | ljp | thats on the device? or desktop machine? |
| 00:17.37 | BabelO | device |
| 00:17.40 | ljp | hmm |
| 00:19.18 | ljp | and HOME is /home/root? |
| 00:19.36 | BabelO | yes |
| 00:20.44 | BabelO | i ve build it in another directory for test only |
| 00:23.03 | ljp | hmm |
| 00:23.17 | ljp | its being run from /home/fcr/armlinux/opie/ ? |
| 00:23.30 | BabelO | yes |
| 00:24.27 | ljp | hmm |
| 01:05.51 | BabelO | ok, don t found anything :( |
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| 13:56.39 | rpodgorny | hi! what is the current status of blueangel port? anything newer than on http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel ? I've just cvs up-ed the latest hh.org kernel and it fails to build :-( |
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| 14:04.41 | rpodgorny | anyone using blueangel? |
| 14:29.21 | cr2 | rpodgorny: it's only a minor patch that is needed to make it work. |
| 14:37.13 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
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| 14:53.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: did you succeed with opie2 ? |
| 14:55.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: No not yet. I have been managed to build it, but i cant start it. I am trying to compile a new one now, based on htcuniversal. Allmost a copy of pxa27x, but with some minor changes |
| 14:55.29 | goxboxlive | But, why is the phone source there? Wasent that suposed be not released? |
| 15:03.32 | rpodgorny | cr2: where do i find the patch? |
| 15:03.34 | cr2 | it's not the phone, but the comm lib as i can see. |
| 15:03.51 | cr2 | we need to write a gui app ourselves, it seems. |
| 15:04.48 | cr2 | rpodgorny: hmm. looking for a link. i didn't commit this patch because it can affect other devices, but nobody cared so far. i think we are free to break it for them now :) |
| 15:05.00 | rpodgorny | :-) |
| 15:05.42 | rpodgorny | is the suspend/resume working? last time i tried with the hh.org wiki files, it didn't (couldn't even find the apm util) |
| 15:06.40 | cr2 | afaik yes. the sound is broken, and dpram needs some changes. |
| 15:07.58 | rpodgorny | i've bought the device few days ago and i'd like to use it for daily stuff (calling, ...) have i been too optimistic? |
| 15:09.31 | rpodgorny | (...and i really hate the bundled windows...) |
| 15:09.32 | cr2 | yes ;) |
| 15:09.55 | cr2 | with the current kernel it's a bit too optimistic |
| 15:10.43 | rpodgorny | so what's missing? |
| 15:11.24 | cr2 | sound and dpram were working in .12 kernel, but this kernel had other problems that are resolved now. |
| 15:11.38 | cr2 | the patch |
| 15:11.41 | cr2 | http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/kernel-discuss/24/2496.html |
| 15:15.50 | rpodgorny | thanks, i'll try it. but anyway, i've had other problems compiling it (undefined symbols all around)... :-( is there anyone currently working on the ba port? |
| 15:21.27 | cr2 | yes. asylumed and BabelOued here. |
| 15:22.11 | cr2 | i have ba, but have not tried it for a long time, trying to finish the universal. |
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| 15:22.41 | rpodgorny | don't they have some components in common? |
| 15:24.46 | cr2 | not audio and dpram is ba-only. |
| 15:25.26 | pyjamaspank | can anyone offer any advice on choosing between a Magician and Prophet ? |
| 15:26.36 | cr2 | linux-specific ? |
| 15:26.46 | pyjamaspank | oh, i see, i'm in the wrong room |
| 15:27.01 | pyjamaspank | totally devoid of any linux |
| 15:27.10 | cr2 | :) |
| 15:27.56 | cr2 | magician's cpu is better. and _much_ more linux-friendly. that's all i can say. |
| 15:28.08 | pyjamaspank | could anyone point me in the direction to discuss HTC phones in general. I've been googling for hours now and all I get I can find is this channel and IRC clients on HTC phones |
| 15:28.17 | cr2 | xda-developers.com |
| 15:28.47 | pyjamaspank | so while I'm here, what are the advantages to linux on a magician ? |
| 15:28.59 | cr2 | linux is linux. |
| 15:29.09 | pyjamaspank | I didn't even realise you could do that |
| 15:29.38 | cr2 | but we are still not at the very user-friendly stage. |
| 15:29.51 | cr2 | htc universal is very close, though. |
| 15:30.09 | pH5 | pyjamaspank: neither phone nor sound work on the magician under linux (yet) |
| 15:30.37 | pyjamaspank | how does it work as a mini pc then ? |
| 15:30.37 | cr2 | but magician will have it, while i'm not sure about prophet. |
| 15:31.13 | Fossi | heh |
| 15:31.17 | pyjamaspank | did you guys get it specifically to run linux and forget about the phone functions or is this a short term thing |
| 15:31.20 | pH5 | Also, I have been told that the prophet is painfully slow, even when just used as a wince phone. |
| 15:31.36 | Fossi | linux on prophet = prompt without anything else than usb serial |
| 15:31.51 | cr2 | rpodgorny: i have compiled htcuniversal_defconfig |
| 15:32.03 | cr2 | sorry, htcblueangel_defconfig |
| 15:32.16 | pH5 | Fossi: great, you could use it to build arm software natively. |
| 15:32.18 | Fossi | my prophet runs ok, it gets a bit chunky if you run skype and want to do something else |
| 15:32.27 | rpodgorny | cool! from the hh.org cvs head with the patch you've linked? |
| 15:32.36 | Fossi | or for searching wikipedia |
| 15:32.50 | Fossi | but given that's a 700mb ebook it's kinda ok |
| 15:33.00 | Fossi | i also never overclocked it |
| 15:33.00 | cr2 | rpodgorny: i think some drivers are not included, and i have applied the patch, so i'll commit it. |
| 15:33.23 | Fossi | pH5: \o/ yay |
| 15:33.24 | rpodgorny | do so, please, and i'll just up... ...thanks... |
| 15:33.27 | pyjamaspank | the only reason i'm considering the prophet is the camera and OS but I guess you guys won't be too keen on the OS on the Prophet |
| 15:33.30 | Fossi | and where do i run them then? |
| 15:33.44 | Fossi | it's the only arm machine i have :) |
| 15:34.01 | Fossi | pyjamaspank: wince is a pest |
| 15:34.12 | Fossi | i reboot about everysecond day |
| 15:34.31 | Fossi | because it somehow hogs ressources |
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| 15:35.01 | Fossi | spb or such tools help, but they are 25$ |
| 15:35.11 | Fossi | if you don't like pirating |
| 15:35.37 | pH5 | Fossi: my wince magician is running for several months now, but then again I only use it as a phone and to play with haret. |
| 15:35.54 | Fossi | basically i could spend double the money i spent on the phone on software to get it to run nicely and with all that i want |
| 15:36.08 | Fossi | ie rss, mails, irc, skype, wikipedia, good music player |
| 15:36.14 | Fossi | and so on |
| 15:36.37 | cr2 | rpodgorny: i'll update CVS so blueangel kernel compiles cleanly. |
| 15:37.06 | rpodgorny | cr2: thank you. I'll try it as soon as you're done... |
| 15:37.09 | pyjamaspank | Fossi: I've only had a brief go on one so I'm not too educated on the OS limitations other than what I find on the web. I plan on using a dictionary and MP3 player and that's my lot really. That's all I need it for until I figure out what else I can do with it |
| 15:37.28 | pH5 | rpodgorny: are you going to do some ba development? |
| 15:38.33 | cr2 | hmm. mem=64M in defconfig. crippling such a nice device ;-) |
| 15:39.53 | rpodgorny | pH5: well i've never been into kernel programming so currently i'd be able to do just basic testing and simple fixes, nothing "real" unfortunately :-( |
| 15:40.00 | Fossi | pyjamaspank: does the magician have wifi? that is a really nifty feature |
| 15:41.34 | pyjamaspank | I live in Vietnam but there are wi fi places all over the place. I just don't know how much I'd use that feature |
| 15:41.58 | pyjamaspank | Magician doesn't have it, that's one of the advantages of the Prophet |
| 15:52.11 | rpodgorny | cr2: have you commited it already? i've just compiled the defconfig as well :-) |
| 15:52.48 | rpodgorny | (last time i've used the .config from the 2.6.12 image from hh.org wiki) |
| 15:58.02 | cr2 | rpodgorny: done. |
| 15:58.58 | cr2 | pH5: there is a SDIO driver patch for pxa255/pxa270. the code looks as ugly as a wince driver. |
| 15:59.34 | cr2 | pH5: here http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton/sdio/ |
| 15:59.35 | pH5 | cr2: ah mvista :) |
| 15:59.40 | cr2 | so it will be possible to have wifi on magician. |
| 15:59.51 | cr2 | afaik there is a acx100-based sdio wifi card. |
| 16:00.53 | pH5 | I'm not so keen on wifi, actually. Sucks battery like hell. |
| 16:01.08 | cr2 | now we need to patch asic3_mmc to support sdio host :) |
| 16:01.23 | cr2 | yeah, but many people don't care. |
| 16:01.30 | pH5 | cr2: does anybody around have sdio hardware? |
| 16:01.47 | cr2 | 11mbit is better than bt. |
| 16:01.54 | pH5 | I'm much more envious of the hermes' UMTS/HSDPA. |
| 16:01.55 | cr2 | pH5: i have a gps card. |
| 16:02.08 | pH5 | cr2: cool |
| 16:02.12 | cr2 | but wince does not want to work with it. |
| 16:02.21 | cr2 | and there is no wince5 driver. |
| 16:02.38 | cr2 | have i said that wince is shit ? |
| 16:02.50 | pH5 | cr2: I wouldn't expect anything else :) |
| 16:02.58 | cr2 | true. |
| 16:03.57 | cr2 | hermes has ATI video/audio chip. |
| 16:04.15 | cr2 | that is really big. |
| 16:04.44 | pH5 | I know. Any information about that chip yet? Is it similar to w100? |
| 16:04.45 | cr2 | i guess they will produce some universal successor with samsung cpu and ATI fb. |
| 16:05.01 | cr2 | the "wince" api looks similar. |
| 16:05.10 | pH5 | cr2: probably. samsung seems to be the big thing at htc currently. |
| 16:05.18 | cr2 | and the driver code is clean |
| 16:05.29 | cr2 | so the disassembly looks very good. |
| 16:05.51 | cr2 | and the gps like on hermes. |
| 16:06.01 | cr2 | included into MSM chipset. |
| 16:06.36 | pH5 | there is a gps on the hermes? |
| 16:08.43 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:08.59 | cr2 | at least the chip is there. |
| 16:09.12 | cr2 | while it is not soldered in the universal. |
| 16:09.35 | cr2 | don't know if the BB firmware supports it. |
| 16:10.02 | cr2 | but running strings on it shows some NMEA stuff. |
| 16:11.08 | rpodgorny | how do i build a initrd for the cross-compiled kernel? mkinitrd tries to build it for the running system :-( |
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| 16:11.45 | cr2 | i think MSM is more interesting than omap, that's why i'm a bit sceptical about omap support. |
| 16:18.42 | pH5 | oh wow. now if they would make a hermes with vga resolution and about 5mm thinner, I wouldn't know what to add (for now) |
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| 16:27.41 | rpodgorny | why is the ext3 fs recommended for the sd card? wouldn't the journal wear it out soon? |
| 16:28.19 | pH5 | rpodgorny: who recommends ext3? I always use ext2 because of that. |
| 16:28.24 | pH5 | otoh sd flash is cheap |
| 16:28.25 | cr2 | rpodgorny: the hardware remapping will (should) take of it. |
| 16:28.36 | cr2 | on SD. |
| 16:29.02 | cr2 | pH5: i'll prefer jffs2 on mdoc G3. |
| 16:29.22 | pH5 | cr2: still ext3 twice the writes due to the journal compared to ext2. and it is slower |
| 16:29.25 | cr2 | if G3 will be toast on universal, then only soldering can help. |
| 16:29.55 | cr2 | pH5: ok, ext3 is just a convenience. |
| 16:30.01 | rpodgorny | it's written on hh.org and i've seen it somewhere else afaik |
| 16:30.02 | pH5 | cr2: do you know where I could find information about how to talk to the magician's pxa272 strataflash? |
| 16:30.22 | cr2 | mtd driver ? |
| 16:30.39 | cr2 | i think you need to enable the vpen somewhere. |
| 16:30.47 | pH5 | that is all? |
| 16:30.50 | rpodgorny | anyway, why don't you use initramfs (instead of initrd) and how do you create initrds anyway? |
| 16:30.51 | cr2 | btw, is it not done on hx4700 ? |
| 16:31.12 | cr2 | pH5: look at hx4700 |
| 16:31.23 | pH5 | cr2: hx4700 has external strata flash isn't it different from the pxa272's internal? |
| 16:32.03 | cr2 | rpodgorny: it has 1. historical grounds, 2. haret/zimage can't load too big kernels. |
| 16:32.21 | cr2 | and zimage=kernel+initramfs may be really big. |
| 16:32.53 | rpodgorny | ah, i see |
| 16:32.55 | cr2 | pH5: blueangel_rom has the mtd driver, and i could read the bootloader/wince from flash |
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| 16:34.27 | cr2 | rpodgorny: actually htcapache used initramfs, but it's irrelevant when you have rootfs on SD. |
| 16:34.52 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 16:35.07 | cr2 | initrd is used only for the non-linux rootfs installation to the SD card. |
| 16:35.13 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, where it is written exactly? please fix or post url. |
| 16:35.14 | cr2 | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 16:35.27 | pH5 | hey psokolovsky_ |
| 16:36.48 | rpodgorny | ok, one moment please |
| 16:37.31 | rpodgorny | but then you'll have to compile the sd-card driver into the kernel and use root=/dev/mmcblk..., right? |
| 16:37.41 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:37.45 | rpodgorny | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 16:38.20 | cr2 | old blueangel used this weird procedure because asic3_mmc was a big hack at that time (1 year ago) |
| 16:38.45 | pH5 | rpodgorny: and don't forget to set rootdelay=1 |
| 16:38.49 | rpodgorny | is there any newer tutorial (without initrd)? |
| 16:39.26 | pH5 | otherwise the mmc workqueue doesn't finish mmc partition scanning before the kernel oopses due to missing rootfs |
| 16:39.41 | cr2 | pH5, psokolovsky_ : do we have plaform_data mmc_ro function pointer support now ? |
| 16:40.08 | psokolovsky_ | rmoravcik: Ah, it's recommended for *BA* ;-E. Then you guys will fix it ;-). Some people told multiple times that indvidual ports cannot recommend such things, and there's single, cross-port card boot page at: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH2200CardBoot |
| 16:40.29 | pH5 | cr2: like on pxamci? |
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| 16:41.02 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, ask lkcl. he told he started on it. But I have a feeling I'll have it faster, if not cleaner |
| 16:41.14 | cr2 | IpaqH2200 does not sound like crossplatform. |
| 16:41.23 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: then do it :) |
| 16:41.31 | rpodgorny | so if i got it right, i should compile the kernel with sd inside, install other modules on sd and launch the kernel using haret with root=/dev/sd-card rootdelay=1, right? |
| 16:41.38 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, don't pay attention to link names much. read content. |
| 16:42.24 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: well, but then i need to read the whole wiki for all ports. i think it is unreasonable. |
| 16:42.48 | cr2 | because sometimes there is a lot of redundant junk in the wiki for some ports. |
| 16:43.08 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, that page specifically was announced and cross-linked as xplatform many times ;-). and well, I will work on its renaming, finally. |
| 16:43.30 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, yes, indiv. ports have *lots* of junk |
| 16:44.07 | cr2 | set MTYPE 341 |
| 16:44.17 | cr2 | this will confuse a lot of people. |
| 16:44.34 | cr2 | i talk from my experience... |
| 16:45.20 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, having broken, outdated duplicated instruction does confuse many people and in many ways |
| 16:45.44 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, there should be wiki page with model to mtype mapping. wanna hack such? ;-) |
| 16:46.12 | cr2 | not necessary. newer haret should support all active ports. |
| 16:46.31 | cr2 | brb |
| 16:46.38 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, so, it must be QAed to support them, and still such page is needed ;-) |
| 16:47.58 | rpodgorny | this "calibrate, cut-n-paste" excercise on every ba boot really sucks! |
| 16:49.35 | rpodgorny | shit. what can be wrong? the kernel boots like this: asic3_mmc -> ok |
| 16:49.46 | rpodgorny | waiting 1 sec. before mounting root |
| 16:49.55 | rpodgorny | mmcblk0: p1 p2 |
| 16:50.07 | rpodgorny | cannot mount mmcblk0p2 :-( |
| 16:50.24 | pH5 | rpodgorny: install wm5 |
| 16:50.55 | rpodgorny | should i increase the dalay or something? |
| 16:50.57 | pH5 | for cut&paste, I have no idea about mmcblk0 - missing file system? |
| 16:51.05 | pH5 | no. it already found the partitions (p1, p2) |
| 16:51.54 | rpodgorny | the fs driver is in-kernel so it should work imho |
| 16:52.29 | rpodgorny | pH5: is the wm5 a great leap? won't it be slower? |
| 16:53.23 | pH5 | rpodgorny: sure, but who cares? I installed wm5 on my hx4700 to have faster reboot cycles ;) |
| 16:54.09 | rpodgorny | ah :-) |
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| 16:59.07 | rpodgorny | hmm, this is weird, increasing to 3sec really didn't help. but commenting out initrd made the haret load quite fast :-) |
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| 17:08.41 | rpodgorny | couldn't there a be a problem with sd card size? it's 1gb |
| 17:09.15 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, if haret load fast, it means that it doesn't load the very initrd. |
| 17:12.00 | rpodgorny | it loads faster because i've disabled the initrd. it's not needed as i can mount the root directly from sd using root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 (at least it should work like this) |
| 17:14.17 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, Wake up ;-) need status on WP lock hacking ;-) see email. |
| 17:14.49 | rpodgorny | has anyone managed to boot right off the sd? I'm still getting "VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block(254,2)" :-( |
| 17:16.45 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, rest assured that everyone boots off SD, and I believe, BA including ;-) |
| 17:17.42 | rpodgorny | weird, can i download the kernel images (with .configs) somewhere to find out what i'm doing wrong? |
| 17:18.52 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, possibly, I have no idea. another option is dump here all relevant info, maybe someone will see something. |
| 17:19.45 | rpodgorny | ok, i'm using the latest hh.org kernel with ba_defconfig |
| 17:20.18 | rpodgorny | the haret startup.txt looks like this: |
| 17:20.21 | rpodgorny | set KERNEL "zImage" |
| 17:20.21 | rpodgorny | set MTYPE 766 |
| 17:20.21 | rpodgorny | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 rootdelay=3" |
| 17:20.21 | rpodgorny | bootlinux |
| 17:20.35 | rpodgorny | where zImage is the freshly build kernel |
| 17:20.56 | psokolovsky_ | you start with kernel version, follow up with exact error messages you get ;-) |
| 17:22.37 | rpodgorny | the kernel version is hh.org cvs HEAD :-) (should be 2.6.19 with modifications) |
| 17:23.25 | rpodgorny | as for the errors, the boot seems to be fine (it scrolls up) but it ends stuck with: |
| 17:23.32 | rpodgorny | VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block(254,2) |
| 17:24.47 | rpodgorny | the funny thing is the asic3_mmc get detected ok few lines before and it even identifies the card correctly (showing correct size and two partitions) |
| 17:25.04 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, ok, you seem to use some unknown defconfig. please use htcblueangel_defconfig from CVS |
| 17:25.22 | rpodgorny | that's exactly what i've used |
| 17:25.24 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, and all that of course means that you lack mmc block subsys in kernel, or fs. |
| 17:25.35 | pH5 | rpodgorny: try rootdelay=10 |
| 17:25.57 | rpodgorny | mmc subsys is there and fs (ext2), too... |
| 17:26.13 | rpodgorny | will try to increase the delay more... |
| 17:26.28 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, ok, it was update 1hr ago (likely, on your req). but are you sure you have it latest? |
| 17:26.44 | pH5 | I had a similar problem with hx4700 - psokolovsky_, remember when I couldn't boot on mine but you could? |
| 17:27.21 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, with .19? it was due to rootdelay, but rpodgorny already has it, and no, I don't think that 10sec would help ;-) |
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| 17:28.39 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: I remember I had rootdelay=1 and it was not enough. Perhaps we have some strange timing issues on asic3 |
| 17:29.26 | rpodgorny | delay=10 didn't help indeed :-( will try to cvs up && make clean && make defconf && make to be sure |
| 17:29.27 | psokolovsky_ | well, what I can say is that I still boot w/o rootdelay on both h4000 & hx4700 ;-). need to try h3900 |
| 17:29.46 | pH5 | ok, so there goes my theory :) |
| 17:30.25 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: I guess you have some high-quality sd cards :) |
| 17:31.21 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, ;-). what I know about them that they are damn-slow with write ;-) |
| 17:31.39 | rpodgorny | scripts/Makefile.clean:17: /home/radek/tmp/hh.org/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/fastfpe/Makefile: No such file or directory |
| 17:31.39 | rpodgorny | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/radek/tmp/hh.org/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/fastfpe/Makefile'. Stop. |
| 17:31.39 | rpodgorny | make: *** [_clean_arch/arm/fastfpe] Error 2 |
| 17:31.54 | rpodgorny | the makefiles seem to be borked in cvs |
| 17:34.14 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, update -dP |
| 17:36.39 | rpodgorny | in progress (in so not familiar with cvs, it's so cumbersome) :-( |
| 17:36.57 | pH5 | Cumbersome Versioning System |
| 17:36.59 | rpodgorny | yay! it worked! :-) |
| 17:41.24 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, meaning, it booted? |
| 17:41.54 | rpodgorny | unfortunately no, the "make clean" just didn't fail. compiling right now |
| 17:42.24 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, ;-). it's not chaos magic, it's order magic ;-) |
| 17:44.38 | rpodgorny | still fainling on root mount, even with delay=10 :-( |
| 17:45.13 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, what fs you use on that partition, after all? |
| 17:45.59 | rpodgorny | ext2 (driver in kernel) |
| 17:46.57 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, so, next your steps will be to boot to some nice initrd, SSH over usb ether to device, and try mount from command line. |
| 17:47.45 | rpodgorny | alright, will do. how do i create such initrd? |
| 17:48.18 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, don't create, use. if you don't have idea already, try "my": http://celib.sourceforge.net/linux-ppc/ |
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| 17:51.10 | rpodgorny | thanks! gimme some time to read it all... ...could it be used as-is or would i have to do any modifications? |
| 17:51.50 | rpodgorny | i suppose i'll have to replace the modules right? |
| 17:52.22 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, no. you really should build wholy static kernel anyway. |
| 17:53.20 | psokolovsky_ | rpodgorny, you'll just need to be sure you have USB ether and related builtin in kernel, and note that the initrd has static /dev, and only mmcblk0p1, so you'll need to mknod anything else yourself ;-) |
| 17:54.55 | rpodgorny | ok |
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| 18:02.31 | psokolovsky_ | well, h3900 finally requires rootdelay ;-) booted nice. |
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| 18:36.45 | rpodgorny | do i need windows to upgrade to wm5? |
| 18:40.00 | pH5 | rpodgorny: I have no idea about blueangel. for hx4700 it was possible to extract the raw rom and upgrade via SD. |
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| 18:56.57 | pH5 | cr2: <7>pxa272-flash: 1 set(s) of 2 interleaved chips --> 16 partitions of 4096 KiB |
| 18:57.13 | pH5 | cr2: thanks for the hint |
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| 19:01.43 | rpodgorny | the windows rom versions is a mess! |
| 19:04.33 | pH5 | I wonder if I feel brave enough to overwrite the boot splash screen to test mtd support.. |
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| 20:20.48 | lkcl | http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton/sdio/welcome-to-SDIO-linux |
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| 20:35.05 | dma | hi. i am new here. would like to ask a question if anybody tried Artemis hardware yet (P3300)? and normally needs to be modified in HaRET? |
| 20:37.32 | rob_w | lkcl, sdio ,, something also important these days |
| 20:38.08 | lkcl | what processor is it, dma? |
| 20:38.19 | dma | it is TI OMAP850 |
| 20:38.38 | lkcl | ahh then you will be pushed to find anyone interested in working with it. |
| 20:39.09 | lkcl | there _is_ an OMAP-based linux porting effort, for the... SPV C500 whatever its codename is |
| 20:39.17 | dma | lkcl, at the moment my goal is only to be able to load bootloader |
| 20:39.49 | dma | say substitute bootloader |
| 20:39.59 | lkcl | that's very risky, dma. |
| 20:40.15 | dma | i know, but i have backup. |
| 20:40.18 | dma | jtag |
| 20:40.25 | lkcl | if you don't know enough about the hardware... |
| 20:40.27 | lkcl | oh cool! |
| 20:40.38 | lkcl | you opened it up and connected to the jtag on it? |
| 20:40.53 | dma | yes |
| 20:41.00 | lkcl | yaay. well done. |
| 20:41.45 | lkcl | i'd suggest you consider doing reverse-engineering first, before substituting the bootloader. |
| 20:41.46 | dma | but this is only as backup. i need to substitute bootloader |
| 20:42.08 | lkcl | you've got to find out how to talk to the hardware first: e.g. how to power up the USB. |
| 20:42.25 | lkcl | take a look at any of the research pages for htc phones and you'll see what i mean |
| 20:42.32 | lkcl | on wiki.xda-developers.com |
| 20:43.05 | dma | lkcl, do you mean tracing with jtag would be easier? |
| 20:43.12 | lkcl | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Typhoon |
| 20:43.44 | lkcl | via the jtag, can you get at what memory locations are being accessed, in real-time? |
| 20:43.54 | lkcl | and what gpio pins are being set and read? |
| 20:44.46 | dma | i think i have a vision about addrising, but it needs to be double checked |
| 20:45.22 | dma | gpi? |
| 20:45.35 | lkcl | general purpose io |
| 20:45.51 | dma | no, this i don't have |
| 20:49.44 | dma | lkcl, could you tell me please, is there a way to trace booting process of device, when it boots with original bootloader? or perhaps somebody already did this. thanks. |
| 20:51.24 | dma | :( |
| 20:52.11 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, hi! any response regarding WP lock hacking? |
| 20:58.19 | rpodgorny | qemu is soooooooo sloooooooooooow when using usb :-( |
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| 21:53.38 | pH5 | <4>mtdblock: erase of region [0x0, 0x40000] on "splash" failed |
| 21:53.39 | pH5 | :( |
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