| 00:00.05 | lkcl | ooo. oh. yes. the ts and keys thing. |
| 00:00.38 | lkcl | ok i gotta veg out. |
| 00:01.12 | BoSJo | Hi all. just popping in to say Hi and thank you for all the hard work you have been doing :-) |
| 00:02.57 | lkcl | insane work, like, more, bosjo |
| 00:03.57 | BoSJo | lkcl: Im sure it's been a lot of loong hours on you guys :-) |
| 00:04.21 | lkcl | mmm.... i'd tried to forget them :) |
| 00:04.35 | lkcl | so you got an htc phone, bosjo>? |
| 00:05.06 | BoSJo | Yep, got the BA and the Universal.....but im no Linux shark at all |
| 00:05.34 | BoSJo | Mostly just tested what GoXBoxLive sent me :-) |
| 00:05.53 | BoSJo | but have been away for a loong time now |
| 00:05.55 | lkcl | it's kinda fun, innit? trying something different |
| 00:06.27 | BoSJo | it's very nice actually :-) just wating for the phone to of :-) |
| 00:06.47 | lkcl | i'm seriously considering going back 12 months to a 2.6.12 kernel... |
| 00:07.14 | BoSJo | ooooohhh why? it seems that the .18 is far now |
| 00:07.45 | lkcl | at least everything but sound worked for the blueangel in 2.6.12. ok - everything but sound and resume-screen, and asylumed worked out how to resume-screen. |
| 00:08.11 | lkcl | and there's been a lot of research since, and the gpio pins for audio are better known. |
| 00:08.47 | lkcl | there's an entire initialisation sequence missing for the codec power, in 2.6.12, which is probably why it didn't work duh |
| 00:08.55 | lkcl | anyway. |
| 00:08.56 | lkcl | enough. |
| 00:09.00 | lkcl | i gotta go veg out. |
| 00:09.40 | BoSJo | I see. Ok have a nice day then---gotta go to bed....just gotta take a better look at this new Suse 10.2 |
| 00:12.56 | BabelOued_ | good night all |
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| 02:20.04 | Hymie | that crazy pof guy said that some dudes were working on getting the kernel to boot |
| 03:24.45 | Ralith | Hymie, yeah, it's being looked at |
| 03:24.58 | Ralith | you can't expect that much from something so recently released :P |
| 03:26.37 | Hymie | Ralith: well, if we can get the kernel booting, then I can start to help... with all the little bits of crap |
| 03:26.44 | Ralith | see xda-developers |
| 03:26.48 | Hymie | Ralith: I've looked about a bit, does anyone know what's preventing it from booting? is it something I can hack at? |
| 03:26.49 | Hymie | Ralith: I did |
| 03:27.08 | Hymie | Ralith: but, it doesn't necessairly list what's wrong with booting, I've tried the russian version of haret |
| 03:27.17 | Hymie | pof told me to come here, and annoy people ;P |
| 03:27.25 | Hymie | maybe I annoyed him too much, ehe |
| 03:27.31 | Ralith | I'm not familliar with the details, which seem to consist of acronym-laden dumps from HaRET |
| 03:27.54 | Hymie | well, it sounds like there are problems with the MMU and that version of haret |
| 03:27.57 | Hymie | but.. not sure beyond that |
| 03:29.20 | Hymie | Ralith: I'm so sick of WM5 ;) I thought I could stand it.. I had to leave my palmos device, and there was nothing in the palm world with UTMS.. |
| 03:32.00 | Ralith | what bothers you about it? |
| 03:34.44 | Hymie | well, it's fairly buggy at times.. but aside from that, much of the way it operates is simply not logical |
| 03:35.08 | Hymie | you'll find yourself scouring the net for about 30 apps just to make up simple shortcomings in the oss |
| 03:35.10 | Hymie | you'll find yourself scouring the net for about 30 apps just to make up simple shortcomings in the os |
| 03:35.24 | Ralith | I do that anyway :P |
| 03:35.24 | Hymie | and the funny part, is that I used to have an IPAQ about 6 years ago, and all of the shortcomings are still there ;P |
| 03:35.29 | Ralith | hehe |
| 03:35.34 | Ralith | this IS microsoft we're talking about, remember |
| 03:35.42 | Ralith | they didn't upgrade IE until firefox became a threat. |
| 03:35.47 | Hymie | yeah |
| 03:35.51 | Ralith | we need to make linux look threatening, for all our sake's :P |
| 03:35.56 | Hymie | well |
| 03:36.07 | Hymie | I think it would be better to make it look absolutely non-threatening |
| 03:36.11 | Hymie | until it was too late ;) |
| 03:36.16 | Ralith | heheheh |
| 03:36.19 | Ralith | true enough |
| 03:37.03 | Hymie | if would be funny to write a virus, that completely replaced windows on every machine it found, with linux running wine, perfectly emulating a windows desktop |
| 03:38.02 | Ralith | if only wine were that good. |
| 03:38.18 | Ralith | what would be more effective, I think, would be a virus that overwrote everything with ubuntu+XPDE |
| 03:39.11 | Hymie | ROTFL |
| 03:39.17 | Hymie | I can't believe someone wrote XPDE |
| 03:39.22 | Hymie | I didn't know it existed ;) |
| 03:44.17 | Ralith | hehe |
| 03:44.29 | Ralith | it'd be perfect for all the web+email+word processing users |
| 03:46.25 | Hymie | yes |
| 03:46.42 | Hymie | although, to this day, I can't understand why users can't get used to a change.. any change.. in their computer |
| 03:46.54 | Hymie | "oh, the menu is there? well, how could I figure that out?!" |
| 03:47.46 | Ralith | :P |
| 03:47.47 | Ralith | yeah |
| 03:47.56 | Ralith | I mean, ffs, just look around and press some buttons and see what happens! |
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| 10:48.59 | NK` | hi |
| 10:51.37 | NK` | I found this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-282896.html |
| 10:52.00 | NK` | and I 'm wondering if anyone can give me the answers "byteflowsoft" |
| 10:52.43 | NK` | cause I'm also an owner of an htc oxygen wondering if it 's possible to put a tornado bootloader into it |
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| 12:34.51 | lkcl | allo babel |
| 12:35.00 | lkcl | you want me to cvs commit what you sent me yesterday? |
| 12:35.30 | lkcl | also can you send me a patch for that shared irq thing tsc2200 you mentioned? |
| 12:36.39 | lkcl | btw i didn't find any other pins for wifi. arg. |
| 12:39.42 | lkcl | also did you see this: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/h4100-port/5/0546.html |
| 12:40.51 | babeloued | hi lkcl |
| 12:41.31 | babeloued | yesturday, i ve try to use GPIO 75 as IRQ for PCMCIA, |
| 12:41.52 | babeloued | device is not locked but have a lot of timeout |
| 12:42.35 | babeloued | for tsc2200, i look at it or maybe asylumed in the evening around 6:00pm |
| 12:44.27 | babeloued | eh eh i have same problem, it is normal :) i use h4000 code as base, we have same adress but different GPIO |
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| 13:11.09 | babeloued | I will want to thank the h4000 developers their works :) |
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| 13:36.38 | babeloued | lkcl so no more GPIO found for ACX chipset ? |
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| 13:46.41 | babeloued | hi psokolovsky :) |
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| 14:26.04 | psokolovsky | babeloued, Hi! |
| 14:26.47 | psokolovsky | babeloued, did you follow w100fb issues discussion on k-d? Either way, could you test how w100fb works on BA across suspend/resume? (CVS HEAD) |
| 14:26.48 | babeloued | you works on acx for h4000 few month ago ? |
| 14:26.59 | psokolovsky | babeloued, kinda ;-) |
| 14:28.00 | babeloued | thanks for your works. on BA now intialization is ok, but missing something to work properly |
| 14:28.25 | babeloued | i use same code as h4000 and other GPIO, but structure is same |
| 14:29.21 | babeloued | for w100fb it seem that asymuled have build it as a moudle and it work after booting |
| 14:30.03 | babeloued | But now there is missing platform_device in the code, is it mormal ? |
| 14:30.26 | lkcl | babeloued: no, couldn't find any more gpio. that doesn't mean that there isn't any |
| 14:31.34 | lkcl | psoko: i got a blueangel too i'll take a look. remember i have a himalaya as well and that uses w100fb too: i'm having difficulty mapping the reverse-engineered hexadecimal values onto the proper code in w100fb.c! |
| 14:31.56 | psokolovsky | babeloued, where it is missing? |
| 14:32.09 | psokolovsky | babeloued, nad yes, it *must* be built as module |
| 14:32.58 | babeloued | psokolovsky, ok so i try it on the evening. |
| 14:33.36 | psokolovsky | lkcl, thanks, I'd appreciate your checking. We need to collect more data to convince w100fb mainatiner that we need some changes to it, which he couldn't imagine by peering into single device ;-) |
| 14:33.38 | babeloued | but for platform_device ? this structure disappear from code on revision 2.7 |
| 14:33.44 | psokolovsky | babeloued, nice, thanks! |
| 14:33.47 | babeloued | 2.17 |
| 14:34.07 | psokolovsky | babeloued, what code? ;-) do you have viewcvs URL? |
| 14:34.19 | babeloued | ok 1 mn... |
| 14:34.51 | lkcl | well of _course_ it damn well does! there's values set for the himalaya that are just programmed in, in w100fb.c, with no option to change them! |
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| 14:37.01 | babeloued | psokolovsky : see diff between revision 1.27 and 1.28 |
| 14:37.02 | babeloued | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/drivers/video/w100fb.c.diff?r1=1.27&r2=1.28&f=h |
| 14:38.37 | psokolovsky | babeloued, it is not needed. this was discussed in k-d: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/kernel-discuss/22/2284.html |
| 14:39.20 | babeloued | psokolovsky : ok , sorry... i see lot of change since my latest update |
| 14:39.23 | psokolovsky | babeloued, so, there *is* still platform_device structure, of course. but that patch is not needed. |
| 14:41.01 | psokolovsky | babeloued, yep ;-) bur the current version works pretty well on hx4700, modulo some weird screen corruption issues on suspend/resume, that's what I would like you to test. |
| 14:42.03 | babeloued | ok, so i can only test in evening, i m actually at work... so no linux :( |
| 14:42.37 | psokolovsky | np ;-) |
| 14:47.31 | babeloued | psokolovsky : in .18 kernel i can resume screen on blank screen, but since .19 i can ' t unblank screen ? is this lastest w100fb can fix it |
| 14:48.35 | psokolovsky | babeloued, do you have resume working at all in .19? |
| 14:49.14 | babeloued | yes suspend /resume work, i can ssh after resume :) |
| 14:51.24 | babeloued | but have a lot of problem with apmd daemon |
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| 14:54.12 | psokolovsky | babeloued, well, so what I can tell, is that w100fb from CVS HEAD shows content after resume, but there're some artifacts. |
| 14:54.54 | babeloued | so blank / unblank is fixed ? |
| 14:58.15 | psokolovsky | babeloued, yes, it's fixed, - at least, for hx4700. |
| 14:58.56 | babeloued | ok, to keep time i connect to my home computer and do cvs update :) |
| 14:59.23 | babeloued | thanks |
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| 15:34.36 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky: I'm still having problems booting Angstrom. It hangs after reporting "Freeing init memory". Any ideas? |
| 15:35.17 | psokolovsky | Kevin2, you're sure you have CONFIG_AEABI=y? |
| 15:36.09 | Kevin2 | Yes - it is enabled. |
| 15:37.04 | Kevin2 | @#^&*%$@ No - I forgot to update default.txt.. |
| 15:39.36 | psokolovsky | lol, that happens ;-) |
| 15:43.31 | Kevin2 | Ughh. I get the OE splash screen, but it hung now with the gray bar half way complete. |
| 15:48.13 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky: Do you know if I can turn off the splash screen so that I can see the log messages? |
| 15:49.06 | psokolovsky | Kevin2, apparently you can, but I don't know where exactly to patch. somewhere in /etc/init.d/, obviously ;-) |
| 15:51.24 | Kevin2 | Oh, I was hoping for some magic cmdline parameter. |
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| 16:21.42 | lkcl | Kevin2: i moved /etc/init.d/opie to /etc/init.d/opie.no on the sdcard image. |
| 16:21.59 | lkcl | then i ssh in and manually run /etc/init.d/opie.no at the command prompt. |
| 16:22.26 | babeloued | lkcl : simple solution to use /etc/inittab |
| 16:22.29 | lkcl | at least then you can see qt startup messages but i don't know about anything else |
| 16:27.53 | Kevin2 | I was able to disable the bootscreen. I'm seeing a kernel out of memory panic. |
| 16:28.56 | babeloued | Kevin2 : you want to start GPE ? |
| 16:29.28 | Kevin2 | babeloued: Yes - this is a standard Angstrom boot image. |
| 16:29.42 | babeloued | try to start only X framebnuffer |
| 16:30.08 | babeloued | it is like standard unix, xinit or Xfb something like that |
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| 16:30.41 | Kevin2 | It's dying in S98configure -- it doesn't have enough memory to do "locale" configure. I wonder why it would try to do that anyway? |
| 16:34.32 | Kevin2 | Ughh. I disabled S98configure, and now it dies on X startup. |
| 16:37.43 | babeloued | i don t know what x server is used by GPE... nano X ? |
| 16:40.16 | lkcl | Kevin2: are you using an initrd? and is it the horrendously-large 14mb one? |
| 16:40.59 | Kevin2 | lkcl: No, booting from sd card root. |
| 16:41.51 | lkcl | ok. |
| 16:41.59 | Kevin2 | The kernel seems to come up fine, and the init scripts run. I'm getting an annoying failure at X startup. I was using familiar, and it too mysteriously fails at X startup. |
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| 16:47.39 | psokolovsky | Kevin2, where is that iamge you use from? (URL if possible) |
| 16:48.19 | Kevin2 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20061127/h2200/Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20061126-h2200.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 16:48.45 | Kevin2 | I seem to get a lot of these messages during boot: Error unable to open fifo: No such file or directory |
| 16:49.09 | psokolovsky | Kevin2, ok, so lazy Angstrom folks. locale generation OOMing is known issue, that should have been done at build time. |
| 16:49.34 | psokolovsky | Kevin2, as for X server OOMing, that's something strange... |
| 16:49.52 | Kevin2 | I don't know if X caused OOM - it just hangs. |
| 16:50.18 | Kevin2 | I disabled all of S98configure -- maybe something in there needs to run. |
| 16:50.19 | psokolovsky | weird. |
| 16:50.33 | Kevin2 | I can't enter run level 3 either.. |
| 16:50.53 | psokolovsky | Kevin2, ok, try to diable more, boot, loging via SSH and start Xfbdev, or how is it called... |
| 16:51.43 | Kevin2 | I can't even get to runlevel 3 - no console to step through things. |
| 16:52.54 | goxboxlive | aloha |
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| 18:32.02 | asylumed | hey |
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| 18:51.40 | goxboxlive | hi lamikr. I have a problem with gomunicator. Could you take a look at this? http://pastebin.ca/275683 why is this happening. I am using angstrom distro, and not familiar. |
| 18:52.11 | lamikr | hi goxboxlive |
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| 18:53.23 | lamikr | It is related to dbus security restrictions in that must be opened a little bit. |
| 18:53.43 | lamikr | goxboxlive: There is a config file for it. (xml based) |
| 18:53.55 | goxboxlive | Ok, how is that handled in familar? Do you have a config file? Where? |
| 18:54.35 | lamikr | Hold on, I will check how I did it. |
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| 18:55.17 | goxboxlive | great |
| 18:59.23 | lamikr | goxboxlive: It's the /etc/dbus-1/system.conf file. Here is my version of it, try with this one: But in the end it migth be a good idea to tighen my version of rule a little bit... http://pastebin.ca/275696 |
| 19:00.15 | goxboxlive | gomunicator initialize the phone on the Universal now. I had to added sleep (4) to main.c |
| 19:00.15 | goxboxlive | thanks |
| 19:00.25 | lamikr | I do not know is there some other way to do this. The tutorial I was following did not speak nothing at all from this error message and I needed to find out the error myself. |
| 19:02.48 | goxboxlive | ok, i'll try it out now |
| 19:08.06 | goxboxlive | lamikr: Yes it is working, I managed to make a call with it :-) Thanks a lot (thow it wouldnt hang up the call) |
| 19:08.57 | lamikr | goxboxlive: Nice... I must anyway fix the segfault. |
| 19:09.05 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:12.22 | BabelOued | psokolovsky : latest w100fb driver works on blueangel.... but i have always problem with screen resume..backlight is on but got a black screen :( |
| 19:13.21 | psokolovsky | BabelOued, i.e. it is as it was before for you, right? |
| 19:13.30 | psokolovsky | BabelOued, also, is blackness nprmal, neutral state for BA's LCD? |
| 19:13.33 | BabelOued | yes |
| 19:14.02 | psokolovsky | BabelOued, ok, because on hx4700 it for some reson white ;-) |
| 19:14.35 | psokolovsky | BabelOued, so, can you tell is LCD is still off or just screen is black? |
| 19:14.38 | BabelOued | on blueangel board id 6, there is same white screen |
| 19:14.59 | psokolovsky | ;-) |
| 19:15.21 | BabelOued | on my board ID 5 i have black screen |
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| 19:16.51 | BabelOued | psokolovsky: i ve this warning at linking |
| 19:16.54 | BabelOued | WARNING: drivers/video/w100fb.o - Section mismatch: reference to .init.text:w100fb_probe from .data between '$d' (at offset 0x0) and 'dev_attr_fastpllclk' |
| 19:17.50 | rob_w | hi all |
| 19:18.02 | BabelOued | hi rob_w |
| 19:18.45 | rob_w | hey BabelOued how is it going ? |
| 19:18.56 | BabelOued | good good some progress |
| 19:19.11 | rob_w | in what way ? |
| 19:19.34 | BabelOued | acx loading firmware |
| 19:19.52 | BabelOued | lkcl have some news with sound |
| 19:19.52 | rob_w | are u able to find the correct mem area ?? |
| 19:20.05 | BabelOued | mem area is PCMCIA0 |
| 19:20.44 | rob_w | ah right ,, so the firmware loads ,, so then it works ? |
| 19:21.18 | psokolovsky | BabelOued, don't build as module ;-) |
| 19:21.31 | lkcl | BabelOued: cool! |
| 19:22.15 | lkcl | BabelOued: are you asking me or telling everyone else? |
| 19:22.16 | BabelOued | lkcl: how is sound ? |
| 19:22.19 | NK` | hi |
| 19:22.22 | NK` | hi |
| 19:22.22 | lkcl | oh you're asking |
| 19:22.26 | lkcl | hi NK |
| 19:22.30 | NK` | -hi |
| 19:22.46 | NK` | I'm havint an htc oxygene (spv c100) |
| 19:22.51 | lkcl | well i am able to get a bzzzzz sound out of the speaker. |
| 19:23.02 | NK` | orange devel send me a tool to unsign it |
| 19:23.11 | NK` | but it doesn't seem to work |
| 19:23.17 | NK` | any idea ? |
| 19:23.28 | lkcl | http://www.slashphone.com/71/4534.html |
| 19:24.21 | NK` | is the tool juste changing policies keys values in the registry ? |
| 19:24.21 | NK` | -e |
| 19:24.22 | lkcl | dang it's sufficiently new that it's not on xda-developers.com |
| 19:24.22 | BabelOued | psokolovsky: don't build w100fb as a module ? ok i try again |
| 19:24.48 | lkcl | BabelOued: you can only build screen drivers as modules if you connect via serial or other console, dude - think about it :) |
| 19:25.00 | BabelOued | rob_w: no acx doesn t work |
| 19:25.34 | BabelOued | lkcl: i ve add w100fb in /etc/modules |
| 19:25.48 | lkcl | BabelOued: doesn't help you. |
| 19:26.39 | lkcl | grep in /etc/init.d for the phrase '/etc/modules' and you'll find that things in /etc/modules are loaded as part of the initialisation by /sbin/init |
| 19:26.49 | lkcl | which is _after_ you've started the kernel. |
| 19:29.34 | lkcl | so it will be several seconds before you get a useable console. |
| 19:29.54 | BabelOued | lkcl: yes and i never see TUX :( :( |
| 19:30.09 | lkcl | i mean - you _can_ load it as a module, and that's how i speeded up development of the original w100fb for himalaya, three years ago. |
| 19:30.19 | lkcl | well of _course_ you don't! |
| 19:30.49 | lkcl | you haven't got a console, that's why! |
| 19:30.49 | BabelOued | ok |
| 19:30.50 | lkcl | have you got a serial cable for your blueangel? |
| 19:30.50 | lkcl | not a usb cable an rs232 cable |
| 19:31.15 | BabelOued | no serial cable and since i use wm2005 my usb network doesn t works under linux :( |
| 19:31.24 | lkcl | forget wince. |
| 19:31.38 | lkcl | it's irrelevant. |
| 19:31.45 | lkcl | what about irda... |
| 19:31.56 | lkcl | do you have another device which has IRDA on it? |
| 19:32.05 | BabelOued | i ve try irda and bluettoh saturday morning |
| 19:32.23 | BabelOued | i send some image over bluetooth, it works |
| 19:32.24 | pH5 | BabelOued: www.synce.org usb-rndis-ng works like a charm |
| 19:32.29 | BabelOued | but i can send irda :( |
| 19:32.34 | BabelOued | i use a k700i |
| 19:32.41 | lkcl | cos if you compiled up with irda you could use _that_ as your serial console. |
| 19:32.58 | BabelOued | it wor for you this new driver ? i ve tested but no success |
| 19:33.39 | psokolovsky | pH5, so, usb-rndis-ng should be used on any pxa27x device, regardless of wince version? |
| 19:34.06 | pH5 | I installed the svn version (followed the howto from the wiki) and it connects to my hx4700 with wm2005 without problems |
| 19:34.24 | psokolovsky | ok |
| 19:34.27 | pH5 | psokolovsky: I like pcp and prun :) |
| 19:34.42 | psokolovsky | pH5, yeah ;-) |
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| 19:41.54 | goxboxlive | lamikr: Is there somewhere in the source i have to add my sms service senter phone number? |
| 19:42.37 | BabelOued | psokolovsky: it is ok now :) w100fb work again compiled in |
| 19:43.04 | BabelOued | pH5: what is your svn version of synce ? |
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| 19:44.25 | BabelOued | psokolovsky: there is some refresh problem :( maybe some parameters in blueangel_lcd ? |
| 19:45.11 | psokolovsky | BabelOued, I have no idea ;-) you know better about blueangel_lcd. I know somethinh only about w100fb ;-) |
| 19:49.00 | BabelOued | lkcl: about blueangel_pcmcia ? |
| 19:54.14 | pH5 | BabelOued: usb-rndis-ng rev 2696 |
| 19:54.53 | pH5 | libsynce rev 2582, vdccm rev 2696 |
| 19:55.52 | pH5 | eh. libsynce is 2696, too |
| 19:59.24 | BabelOued | pH5: thanks. i m not up to date :( |
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| 20:24.26 | BabelOued | scanning for a USB RNDIS device |
| 20:24.27 | BabelOued | doing rndis_init |
| 20:24.27 | BabelOued | USB error: No error |
| 20:24.39 | BabelOued | pH5: this what i have |
| 20:24.53 | BabelOued | cool error :) |
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| 20:49.51 | pH5 | BabelOued: no idea about this :( I get rndis_init succeeded as expected |
| 20:57.47 | rob_w | lkcl, do you have any 3d knowledge you could share ? |
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| 21:00.47 | BabelOued | lkcl : :) i think i have some trace related to sound |
| 21:04.20 | lamikr | goxboxlive: There should not be a need to add sms center number manually... goxboxlive: Are the signal sctrength and operator name displayed correctly for your device? |
| 21:06.21 | goxboxlive | lamikr: not signal stregth, but operator works. |
| 21:06.44 | lamikr | ok |
| 21:06.56 | lamikr | good that at least it. |
| 21:07.14 | lamikr | there are surprsiging many phone specific at commands. |
| 21:08.03 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 21:09.23 | goxboxlive | Maybe it is a good idea to make a phone specified conf file with the at commands it use. |
| 21:25.04 | lkcl | BabelOued: ah ha! |
| 21:27.08 | lkcl | rob_w: i've played with bzflag and also an extremely good 3d physics library that was opengl for doing games and 3d virtual simulations |
| 21:27.12 | BabelOued | lkcl GPIOB15 -> EGPIO3-> SSPon->GPIO23->GPIO27->GPIOA15->GPIO27 up and down |
| 21:27.34 | BabelOued | with A15 toggle 0 1 too |
| 21:27.46 | BabelOued | thaht help you ? |
| 21:27.51 | lkcl | 23 is ssp. 27 is ssp. or may i2c. egpio3 is actually CKEN3 |
| 21:29.46 | BabelOued | it is a bit when i touch screen :) i want to monitor some gpio i ve missed for acx |
| 21:42.33 | BabelOued | lkcl : last column in haret wasic3gpio command, what is it ? time offset ? |
| 21:42.44 | lkcl | yep. in ms. |
| 21:43.14 | lkcl | it's really important, when doing initialisation, to put those in, ok? |
| 21:44.04 | BabelOued | ok |
| 21:44.41 | BabelOued | GPIO85 is strange :( always toggle with wifi on or off |
| 21:46.34 | lkcl | i'm going back to the xanadux sf.net - 2.6.12 or whatever it is - to try and get sound and lcd etc. working. |
| 21:47.08 | BabelOued | ok :( |
| 21:47.22 | BabelOued | suspend was working on .12 ? |
| 21:47.47 | lkcl | yep. on lcd, no. and sound worked if you played a sound in wince. but that's to do with initialisation. |
| 21:47.53 | lkcl | but at least it _did_ work. |
| 21:48.01 | lkcl | so i have a known working state to go from. |
| 21:48.11 | BabelOued | ok |
| 21:48.24 | lkcl | and i can do debug logs and then tell the maintainers on the lists what those values are. |
| 21:48.26 | lkcl | etc. etc. |
| 21:49.08 | lkcl | too many unknowns. eliminate every unknown but one. rule of reverse-engineering. |
| 21:49.38 | BabelOued | :) |
| 21:50.06 | lkcl | first boot i forgot to compile in mmc oops |
| 21:50.15 | lkcl | ok! off we go! |
| 21:53.37 | lkcl | ok. i2cdetect finds the sound chip |
| 22:01.44 | rob_w | lkcl, would you have a plan for a intel embedded 3D support on a xscale companion (not w100fb) |
| 22:02.02 | lkcl | ooo, tell me more. |
| 22:02.24 | lkcl | oo. i did hear of someone who wanted to do an open source 3d graphics card. |
| 22:03.10 | lkcl | i mean - i _don't_ have a plan... but i _do_ have a plan for an asynchronous parallel processor architecture |
| 22:06.29 | rob_w | i would love to get some stuff |
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| 22:10.28 | lkcl | o god. A15 is marked in the BlueangelASIC3 page as CLOCK_CDEX_CONTROL_CX |
| 22:10.39 | lkcl | wtf? |
| 22:18.48 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. I've gotten into the Apache in single user mode. It locks up when I run Xfbdev. Any ideas? |
| 22:22.59 | lkcl | Kevin2: try blatting stuff to /dev/fb0 |
| 22:23.09 | lkcl | echo fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff > /dev/fb0 |
| 22:23.16 | lkcl | and try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 |
| 22:23.37 | lkcl | XFbdev tests several devices - framebuffer, touchscreen, keyboard etc. |
| 22:23.51 | lkcl | so eliminate and test each device, individually. |
| 22:24.48 | Kevin2 | lkcl: writing to /dev/fb0 does work. |
| 22:25.05 | lkcl | ok. so that's happy. ish :) |
| 22:25.15 | lkcl | now try hexdump /dev/input/event0 & |
| 22:25.22 | lkcl | and then press the touchscreen. |
| 22:25.29 | lkcl | if you've got a driver for it |
| 22:25.36 | Kevin2 | That works too. |
| 22:25.39 | lkcl | ok. |
| 22:25.46 | lkcl | you got a /dev/input/event1 ? |
| 22:25.48 | lkcl | event2? |
| 22:25.52 | lkcl | etc etc. ? |
| 22:26.11 | lkcl | remember to kill %1 btw :) |
| 22:26.38 | Kevin2 | I have event 0 - 2 -- all work. |
| 22:26.56 | lkcl | ok. hum. |
| 22:27.09 | Kevin2 | I have ts0 also -- it seems okay also. |
| 22:28.24 | Kevin2 | I tried: echo t > /proc/sysrq-trigger -- but it doesn't work for some reason. |
| 22:28.43 | Kevin2 | I can't run "ps" or "top" because it hangs the session I run it in. |
| 22:33.42 | lkcl | microphone works on blueangel, on 2.6.12! |
| 22:34.32 | BabelOued | lkcl: yes, and playing mp3 or ogg too ;) |
| 22:34.58 | lkcl | oh - this is not news, then? ha ha |
| 22:35.08 | BabelOued | :) |
| 22:35.40 | BabelOued | the sound is strange when making a call in .12 |
| 22:35.57 | lkcl | damn it. |
| 22:36.02 | BabelOued | can't compare with no ousnf in .19 :) |
| 22:36.34 | BabelOued | s/ousnf/sound/ |
| 22:37.07 | lkcl | ok - so let me get this straight: somebody managed to get sound _working_ completely - without that stupid requirement to run a sound in wince when booting haret? |
| 22:37.44 | BabelOued | no i don t think |
| 22:38.00 | lkcl | ah. ok. so how come i can record, then? :) |
| 22:38.05 | BabelOued | and you have find some new stuff inn .19 kernel |
| 22:38.09 | Kevin2 | Okay - strace is in this image. The last call in Xfbdev is: |
| 22:38.11 | Kevin2 | ioctl(5, FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO |
| 22:38.15 | lkcl | without the stupid wince thing? |
| 22:38.16 | BabelOued | you have find some more gpio right ? |
| 22:38.22 | Kevin2 | Earlier there is open("/dev/fb0", O_RDWR) = 5 |
| 22:38.54 | lkcl | BabelOued: no - but i did add a set gpioa15 to 1 before doing the spk / mic powerup |
| 22:39.11 | BabelOued | ok |
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| 22:54.36 | lkcl | allo cr2 |
| 22:56.15 | cr2 | hi lkcl |
| 22:57.00 | cr2 | the bt headset on universal is hooked to the ak4641, and the speaker routing is designed for the lame mono pdas ;) |
| 22:57.28 | cr2 | i need a new i2c/ak4641.c driver, that really controls the chip. |
| 22:57.51 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x00 |
| 22:57.55 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x08 |
| 22:57.59 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x0c |
| 22:58.03 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x0d |
| 22:58.07 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x0f |
| 22:58.07 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x12 |
| 22:58.08 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x1a |
| 22:58.08 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x1b |
| 22:58.08 | cr2 | addr=0x24 command= BTIF value= 0x1f |
| 22:58.12 | lkcl | oh god. |
| 22:58.22 | cr2 | have traced all i2c traffic for all known to me modes. |
| 22:58.40 | cr2 | the stereo bt sound goes over btsco probably. |
| 22:58.41 | lkcl | cr2: i am back on the xanadux sf - 2.6.12 - and i have microphone working, without having to run a sound from wince. |
| 22:58.52 | lkcl | but, bizarrely, the speaker _isn't_ working (!) |
| 22:58.58 | Kevin2 | Hi cr2 |
| 22:59.08 | cr2 | hi Kevin2 |
| 22:59.33 | lkcl | well, there isn't one in asoc, so that's a good place to start :) |
| 22:59.58 | cr2 | i don't know that much about audio mixers and stuff. |
| 23:00.06 | lkcl | he he |
| 23:00.21 | cr2 | so i have 4 audio input + 3 output devices. |
| 23:01.05 | cr2 | mixer, equalizer and other goodies. |
| 23:02.14 | cr2 | the same chip on sable and apache and hermes. |
| 23:02.38 | cr2 | but we need to find out the audio routing for them first. |
| 23:02.55 | cr2 | Kevin2: does your speaker work ? |
| 23:03.35 | Kevin2 | It did before -- I'm in .19 hell right now. |
| 23:04.52 | cr2 | before does not count :) the driver had more control functions. |
| 23:05.48 | cr2 | the current driver hardcoded the line out to the headphone, and mono out2 to the speaker. |
| 23:06.13 | cr2 | the mixer is simply non-existant, and the other inputs/outputs are unavailable. |
| 23:07.51 | cr2 | Kevin2: another question before i fall asleep. can i set the breakpoint on a code memory address and dump r0 ? |
| 23:08.11 | Kevin2 | Yes. "set insn 0xaddr" |
| 23:08.35 | cr2 | also, can you tell me once more how to track an external memory addr (like asic3 gpio) ? |
| 23:08.36 | Kevin2 | cr2: Did you figure out your "wi" issues? |
| 23:09.18 | cr2 | yes, but i'd like to compare the result with direct dumps on function entry and exit. |
| 23:09.35 | Kevin2 | Poll an address during interrupts and memory traces? You'll need mainline haret - use "addirqtrace". |
| 23:10.14 | Kevin2 | Ooops, meant "addirqwatch". |
| 23:10.42 | cr2 | Kevin2: put an example into hh.org wiki :) i always point the people to ApachePhoneTrace for a reference. |
| 23:11.09 | Kevin2 | Yeah, I need to update that page with the new tricks. (Apache phone tracing needs the memory polling to find gpio events.) |
| 23:12.47 | cr2 | yes, that will be excellent. your tools have already saved me a lot of time on disassembling, and scratching my head about the wince driver bloatware ;-) |
| 23:14.32 | Kevin2 | Found it! |
| 23:14.45 | Kevin2 | cr2: remove __initdata from your pxafb structures - it is a time bomb. |
| 23:14.59 | cr2 | i'm curious if we will have such trace ability on the samsung cpu. i2c traces are extremely helpful. |
| 23:15.03 | cr2 | Kevin2: ok. |
| 23:16.12 | Kevin2 | cr2: I was reading through the 920t docs - oddly, they have a debug unit in the chip, but unlike the PXA it can only be activated via jtag. |
| 23:16.58 | Kevin2 | It may be possible to get some memory tracing working by fiddling with the page tables and catching the faults. |
| 23:17.09 | cr2 | that's bad. |
| 23:18.16 | cr2 | can we write a wince "realtime" driver that will catch the irq and dump some memory data? i think it can be very helpful too. |
| 23:18.56 | cr2 | it is relatively easy to pick out the wince irq table from nk.exe |
| 23:19.28 | Kevin2 | I don't understand. "addirqwatch" will poll memory on an interrupt. Are you looking for something else? |
| 23:20.00 | pof | Kevin2 and cr2... have you made any progress in the samsung s3c24xx port of haret ? |
| 23:20.42 | Kevin2 | pof: I think it cr2 verified that it runs. There wasn't much in the s3 version of haret (only gpio watching). |
| 23:20.43 | pof | s/s3c24xx/sc32442 |
| 23:21.07 | pof | and what about booting? |
| 23:21.11 | Kevin2 | pof: Which phone (by name) do you have? |
| 23:21.17 | pof | hermes |
| 23:21.31 | Kevin2 | pof: I think it will work - I don't see anything special in the s3xxx version of haret |
| 23:21.48 | pof | but we tried to modify haret to boot a SPL (bootloader) instead of a linux kernel |
| 23:22.17 | cr2 | Kevin2: i need to dump at least the LCD registers first. |
| 23:22.31 | pof | and we where able to boot to 0x0 and start IPL again |
| 23:22.39 | Kevin2 | pof: I didn't see anything like that in the code I looked at. |
| 23:22.55 | pof | but when we try to copy SPL into memory it hangs |
| 23:22.55 | cr2 | and i need a GPIO tracer, and GPIO dumper, to know the ALT settings & so on. |
| 23:23.15 | pof | Kevin2: have a look here --> http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/haret/bootimage.tar.gz |
| 23:23.46 | cr2 | pof: SPL on universal needs some special memory setup, which is a bit beyond the capabilities of the current haret. |
| 23:23.49 | pof | this is what we modified, probably there is some code you can reuse for samsung, i'm not sure |
| 23:23.54 | cr2 | i think it's the same on hermes. |
| 23:24.42 | cr2 | you need to relocate the SPL to the memory bottom, put the right stack pointer, and the framebuffer address. |
| 23:24.42 | pof | cr2: what kind of memory setup? |
| 23:24.52 | cr2 | because they are all hardcoded in the SPL. |
| 23:25.53 | cr2 | haret only will relocate it to the bottom, afaik. the rest should be first found out, and then added to the haret asm stage. |
| 23:26.12 | pof | cr2: will it be easier to modify IPL to not move SPL then? |
| 23:26.30 | pof | it hangs when we copy SPL to memory, not when jumping to it |
| 23:26.44 | cr2 | hmm, you have ATI framebuffer, so it _may_ be different. but the stack pointer should be set properly. |
| 23:27.40 | pof | set the stack pointer before copying SPL ? |
| 23:27.46 | cr2 | hmm. i don't know what IPL does on hermes. |
| 23:28.00 | pof | http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/haret/spl.jpg |
| 23:28.09 | Kevin2 | I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, but I can describe what haret does. It copies a file (or two if initrd is on) from disk to memory in a linear fashion, and then jumps to it. |
| 23:28.25 | cr2 | it's a bit different on universal. and on ba there is no ipl/spl split, because it is memory mapped. |
| 23:29.16 | pof | it resets memory, sets up clock, configures ports, sets up memory pagination(?), and then does something with NAND and jumps to SPL. |
| 23:29.56 | pof | we have it disassembled with IDA if you want to have a look |
| 23:29.58 | cr2 | Kevin2: there is the first stage bootloader (IPL) that loads the second stage bootloader SPL (from G3 on universal) to the RAM and jumps to it. pof wants to load SPL from haret. |
| 23:30.04 | Hymie | I'm surprised people aren't making a separate boot loader for Linux.. it must be a bitch to "replace" the running operating system |
| 23:30.52 | Hymie | I used to have an ipaq, and I we used to install a new boot loader onto it.. then you could boot from Linux or WinCE |
| 23:30.59 | cr2 | Hymie: it's much more dangerous to replace the bootloader. and will be really a bitch when you fail ;) |
| 23:31.17 | Hymie | cr2: oh, I agree thre, for sure.. but, this haret business looks painful |
| 23:31.56 | cr2 | Hymie: i remember the amount of "i have bricked my ipaq" posts on the ipaq mailing list, with people sending devices to CPQ. |
| 23:32.54 | cr2 | haret bootloader works more or less reliably. |
| 23:33.10 | Kevin2 | pof: What did you want me to look at in the bootimage.tar.gz? |
| 23:33.17 | cr2 | the RET part is more important for us, though. |
| 23:33.38 | lkcl | argh. CKEN14 on the blueangel is i2c. |
| 23:34.01 | pof | Kevin2: we modified in asmstuff.S and linboot.cpp |
| 23:34.17 | lkcl | oh hell. CKEN3 is SSP2 on blueangel... |
| 23:35.12 | Kevin2 | pof: Ughh. Checkout most recent haret from cvs. All the assembler was moved into C code. I'm sure you'll have an easier time modifying it then the old code. |
| 23:35.50 | cr2 | pof: tell Kevin2 what is the OEM id of hermes. i'm lazy to start it and check. |
| 23:36.10 | pof | Kevin2: I've seen that in CVS code there is some samsung code, but no machine type |
| 23:36.14 | lkcl | ahh damnit - i think i might have worked out why sound doesn't work in asoc on the blueangel: it's cos the CKEN #defines might be wrong. |
| 23:36.22 | cr2 | lkcl: i had "dump pxa26xcken" implemented. |
| 23:36.28 | lkcl | oh cool. |
| 23:36.35 | Kevin2 | I can add the machine type if you send the OEM ids. |
| 23:36.49 | Kevin2 | But, the code I looked at indicated nothing special was needed. |
| 23:37.07 | pof | what is the OEM id ? |
| 23:37.15 | cr2 | lkcl: ? unlikely. |
| 23:37.35 | lkcl | CKEN3 is enabled on the blueangel when sound is played. |
| 23:37.36 | cr2 | pof: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_PhoneModels |
| 23:37.59 | cr2 | lkcl: it's the i2c/uda1380.c business |
| 23:38.11 | Kevin2 | Download latest haret (http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/) and create a file "earlyharetlog.txt" in the same directory as haret. Then launch haret. Then paste the output in haretlog.txt. |
| 23:38.16 | pof | ok, the OEM ids are: HERM100, HERM200 and HERM300 |
| 23:38.19 | lkcl | you reckon? |
| 23:38.21 | lkcl | *sigh*... |
| 23:38.32 | cr2 | Kevin2: HERM100, HERM200 |
| 23:38.43 | cr2 | don#t know what's the difference. |
| 23:38.45 | Kevin2 | Is it PocketPC? |
| 23:38.49 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:39.01 | cr2 | jornada820 was Jupiter |
| 23:39.07 | cr2 | but it's old wince. |
| 23:39.20 | cr2 | Handheld Pro ;) |
| 23:40.02 | pof | herm100/200/300 the only difference is in the "housing" of the device, hardware is the same |
| 23:40.25 | cr2 | pof: which do you have ? |
| 23:41.46 | pof | cr2: I've herm100 and herm200 |
| 23:42.30 | cr2 | pof: can you run haret as Kevin2 has suggested ? |
| 23:43.11 | cr2 | Kevin2: why didn't you add the s3c24xx gpio trace ? |
| 23:43.48 | cr2 | damn, i need some more time and read the samsung cpu manual ;) |
| 23:44.02 | Kevin2 | cr2: I'm reluctant to add code I can't test. I'm willing to accept patches. |
| 23:44.49 | cr2 | Kevin2: but it was tested afaik. |
| 23:45.17 | cr2 | if you'll add it, i'll do a test. on Thursday :) |
| 23:46.05 | pof | i'm on the "earlyharetlog" thing... 1sec |
| 23:48.20 | cr2 | let's hope an ATI chip in hermes is not that far away from w100fb |
| 23:48.38 | cr2 | vsfb may be enough for the first time. |
| 23:50.04 | cr2 | lol. hermes is so small. i have 5 phones in my jacket and lost it :) |
| 23:50.30 | pof | http://pof.eslack.org/tmp/haretlog.txt ---> here is the haretlog |
| 23:51.13 | cr2 | Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HERM100' |
| 23:51.30 | cr2 | 200 and 300 should be the same. |
| 23:52.28 | cr2 | Kevin2: so much new commands. an example is really needed. |
| 23:54.37 | Kevin2 | Is there a mach-type for hermes? |
| 23:55.05 | cr2 | hmm. good question. if not i can add a new one. |
| 23:55.34 | Kevin2 | Should the name be "HTC Hermes" or just "Hermes"? |
| 23:56.27 | cr2 | name ? |
| 23:56.40 | cr2 | htchermes is ok ? |
| 23:56.48 | Kevin2 | Just what we write to the screen. It is an htc device, right? |
| 23:57.01 | cr2 | yes. |
| 23:57.15 | cr2 | then i will register the name. |
| 23:57.41 | pof | :) |
| 23:57.58 | Kevin2 | You may want to register wizard too. |
| 23:58.40 | cr2 | is it not yet registered ? |
| 23:59.14 | Kevin2 | Not in haret code -- where can I get the latest mach-types.h? |
