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| 06:55.05 | rob_w|mis | morning |
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| 08:08.24 | goxboxlive | morning |
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| 09:18.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive: bad for you :) the hh.org tag is -hh4 now. |
| 09:18.35 | goxboxlive | :-) i saw it |
| 09:18.39 | goxboxlive | damn |
| 09:19.03 | goxboxlive | what are yo uguys doing? Why cant you getthe TS work. |
| 09:19.57 | cr2 | i have written at xda-dev. the ts is working, but this silly popup jumps too early. |
| 09:20.34 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:20.42 | cr2 | i hope to make the sound run today. |
| 09:20.47 | cr2 | morning florian. |
| 09:22.15 | goxboxlive | hi florian_kc |
| 09:23.45 | goxboxlive | But cr2: I have never had the popup before calibration, it goes right to my calibration screen. Just som you know, in apperance you can also adjust the taskbar bigger. I am using small i cons as size 24. |
| 09:23.57 | goxboxlive | As text i am using 14 i think 16 is to big. |
| 09:26.26 | cr2 | i have asked everybody around me (normal people :) and they say the fonts and the icons are too small. |
| 09:27.09 | cr2 | think about it: they have half the physical size of a "standard" pda. |
| 09:27.44 | cr2 | it says a lot about the LCD quality, but is simply difficult to use. |
| 09:28.22 | goxboxlive | cr2: Yes i agree, they are to small. As i said, i am setting fonts to 14 big icons as 44, and small aocns as 24. And that looks good to me. |
| 09:28.24 | goxboxlive | But |
| 09:28.53 | goxboxlive | Out of OE it comes with text 9(10), small icons as 14, and big icons as 32. |
| 09:29.04 | goxboxlive | That is 2 to small |
| 09:29.11 | cr2 | i get the popup on a fresh install. |
| 09:29.29 | cr2 | 99% of OE devices are on 3.5" 240x320 LCD |
| 09:30.13 | goxboxlive | But how do i change it, is there sometjhing in the OE i can use, or do we have to edit the Opie source? |
| 09:30.30 | cr2 | only universal and loox720 have such fine-dpi LCD. |
| 09:30.48 | goxboxlive | what about hx4700 and dell axim? |
| 09:31.07 | goxboxlive | x50v has also vga, but 3,7" |
| 09:31.15 | cr2 | i think there is a "bigscreen" option, but it is obviuosly incomplete. |
| 09:31.20 | cr2 | hx4700 has 4" |
| 09:31.53 | cr2 | latest zaurus also has 3.7" afaik. |
| 09:31.53 | goxboxlive | ye si am using the bigscreen option. |
| 09:32.01 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 09:32.07 | cr2 | universal and loox720 are the best. |
| 09:33.11 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Partnumbers |
| 09:35.56 | goxboxlive | and i have had both |
| 09:36.12 | goxboxlive | i sold it because of the lack in linux porting |
| 09:36.37 | goxboxlive | cr2 : i have solved the font icon stuff with open embedded |
| 09:36.50 | cr2 | it has weird cplds. you will need quite some time to RE them. |
| 09:36.51 | goxboxlive | I'll just create a own qpe.conf for the universal |
| 09:52.27 | rob_w|mis | blueangel is not treated inside ts.conf anymore |
| 10:07.46 | goxboxlive | cr2: How do i aply this lines in toi the kernel.keymap.patch: |
| 10:07.48 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.49 | goxboxlive | @@ -1845,10 +2372,10 @@ |
| 10:07.49 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.49 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.50 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.50 | goxboxlive | - } |
| 10:07.51 | goxboxlive | + } |
| 10:07.53 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.55 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.57 | goxboxlive | - } |
| 10:07.59 | goxboxlive | + } |
| 10:08.01 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.03 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.05 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.18 | goxboxlive | There is a lack of this in the OE provided kernel-keymap.patch. |
| 10:09.18 | goxboxlive | I have found it in qtopia source. lpotter asked me to use this patch, but that failes, and i have tried to paste this lines in to the OE patch, but that also failes. |
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| 11:07.56 | rob_w|mis | goxboxlive, but the patch you pasted looks like it does nothing .. you add what you remove ! |
| 11:09.43 | goxboxlive | ok, i dont know so much about this so actually i dont know what i do, but the only think i know is that lpotter told me that we needed usb support in the kernel-keymap.patch in OE. :-/ |
| 11:11.11 | rob_w|mis | i see but that paste you gave removes a } and adds a } after that .. that equals nothing |
| 11:12.16 | rob_w|mis | if there is more in the actual patch .. then paste it to pastebin.org |
| 11:12.26 | rob_w|mis | i will check then |
| 11:17.44 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 11:20.04 | goxboxlive | rob|mis this should be the one with usb support : http://pastebin.ca/84820 |
| 11:20.22 | goxboxlive | rob_w|mis |
| 11:22.00 | rob_w|mis | i see |
| 11:22.38 | rob_w|mis | hang on ,, this a a qt patch .. hmm |
| 11:22.39 | goxboxlive | cr2 : You would have loved my new Opie image, it has big icons and LARGE text. Atually to large for me, but i can fix that my self in userspace |
| 11:25.25 | goxboxlive | rob_w|mis I found the kwenwl-kwymap.patch you are looking at in this source: qtopia-free-src-2.2.0.tar.gz |
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| 11:26.40 | NickBee | hi |
| 11:27.55 | goxboxlive | rob_w|mis No sorry , i didnt find it there, i googled for it and found it some where else. Dont remember where. |
| 11:28.33 | goxboxlive | because i did not fount it in the qtopia source as lpotter said it will be in. |
| 11:28.56 | rob_w|mis | so what is your goal in total .. have usb keyboards work ?? |
| 11:29.05 | goxboxlive | yes :-) |
| 11:29.21 | NickBee | Hi Gox |
| 11:29.51 | goxboxlive | Not a regular USB keyboard, just the hardware keyboard in the HTC Universal. |
| 11:29.56 | goxboxlive | Hi NickBee |
| 11:29.57 | rob_w|mis | aha |
| 11:29.58 | NickBee | can you point me to a source where i can download an build my own kernel (for beetles) |
| 11:30.30 | goxboxlive | rob_w let me show you a line we use in Opie to for the keyboard, hold on. |
| 11:30.45 | rob_w|mis | sure |
| 11:30.51 | NickBee | and learn the necessary art of compiling the kernel for the first time :) |
| 11:30.57 | goxboxlive | export QWS_KEYBOARD=USB:/dev/input/event1 |
| 11:31.49 | goxboxlive | There is a guy who has compiled QT and got it working, but he said that he didnt patch the qte, it just worked. |
| 11:33.03 | goxboxlive | So to get my keyboard working in Opie i have to replace the files libqte, qpe and libqpe (wich he build all three of them) to get it to work in Opie. |
| 11:33.46 | rob_w|mis | hang on .. |
| 11:33.49 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 11:34.35 | rob_w|mis | ok first some basic checks .. you will need evdev.ko loaded !! |
| 11:34.52 | rob_w|mis | evdev produces event0 , event1 or such |
| 11:35.19 | goxboxlive | i have it loaded |
| 11:35.42 | goxboxlive | since the keyboard wrks before Opie starts |
| 11:35.43 | rob_w|mis | so having evdev loaded ,, and doing cat /dev/input/event1 or event0 .. and then pressing the keyboard should produces some ugly output |
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| 11:36.12 | rob_w|mis | check if we do need event1 or 0 .. that depends on which driver ( touch or keyobard ) comes first |
| 11:36.24 | rob_w|mis | as touch will also be a evdev device |
| 11:36.36 | goxboxlive | evdev is comiled in to the kernel, TS works in Opie |
| 11:37.03 | goxboxlive | event0 is TS, event1 is keyboard |
| 11:37.26 | rob_w|mis | so you see events on event1 when pressing the keyboard |
| 11:37.55 | goxboxlive | yes, as i said, keyboard works in rootfs, but not in Opie. |
| 11:38.32 | goxboxlive | So i can use the keyboard from the shell if i stop Opie form starting before the 5 sec counting |
| 11:38.49 | rob_w|mis | right |
| 11:38.55 | goxboxlive | ANd also if i terminate Opie and goes back to the shell the keyboard works. |
| 11:39.22 | rob_w|mis | i dont think opie lags usb keyboard support in general .. not even in early versions .. |
| 11:40.45 | goxboxlive | ok, but why does it work when i am replacing libqte, qpe and libqpe with the prebuild ones? |
| 11:41.47 | goxboxlive | Maybe OE patch to much? Should i try to remove all the patches and see if it works ? |
| 11:46.41 | rob_w|mis | as you found the position in qt where it handles the keyboards .. try to printf as much as possible and recompile with that |
| 11:46.50 | rob_w|mis | or ask in #opie |
| 11:47.19 | goxboxlive | ok, thnsk for your help so far. |
| 11:48.08 | rob_w|mis | np |
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| 17:47.33 | NickBee_ | Hi |
| 17:48.23 | NickBee | BabelOued: which phone are you using? |
| 17:48.41 | BabelOued | i m using BA |
| 17:49.56 | NickBee | Ok, i think the port for BA started long back |
| 17:49.58 | NickBee | lucky |
| 17:50.09 | BabelOued | yes :) |
| 17:51.08 | NickBee | I am new here, don't know much abt ppl except cr2, knowing whom is an obvious guess btw |
| 17:51.22 | NickBee | do you port drivers as wel? |
| 17:51.55 | BabelOued | no, i only try to help with some test or fix |
| 17:52.33 | NickBee | Ok |
| 17:52.45 | NickBee | not bad actually " ... or fix" |
| 17:53.09 | NickBee | i am still upto the ".... test" myself :) |
| 17:53.42 | BabelOued | i read irc dialog offline :) i see |
| 17:54.06 | NickBee | :) |
| 17:54.16 | NickBee | brb, gotta boot in linux now |
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| 18:01.57 | NickBee | cr2: are you around? |
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| 19:15.23 | goxboxlive | cr2: Now i had the popup to, never seen it before. |
| 19:19.46 | goxboxlive | I am now running a qte-mt image, so it have to be something with that. |
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| 20:20.35 | rob_w | ext2 is really not ideal here |
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| 20:29.25 | florian | re |
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| 20:32.35 | cr2 | rob_w: where ? |
| 20:39.29 | BabelOued | hi cr2 |
| 20:39.47 | BabelOued | i've recompiled 2.6.16 with htcblueangel_defconfig |
| 20:40.01 | BabelOued | need some modification in htcblueangel_defconfig for the moement |
| 20:40.10 | BabelOued | because of initramfs |
| 20:43.55 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:51.12 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 20:51.18 | cr2 | hi |
| 20:51.35 | cr2 | BabelOued: does it work ? |
| 20:52.02 | goxboxlive | i have had a good day today, do you know why? |
| 20:52.12 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have written a converter for roadmap :) |
| 20:52.14 | cr2 | why ? |
| 20:52.19 | goxboxlive | I got the keyboard work after OE compilation |
| 20:52.30 | cr2 | WOW! |
| 20:52.40 | cr2 | what was the problem ? |
| 20:52.41 | goxboxlive | So now i have build a Opie image with MT support |
| 20:52.49 | cr2 | very good. |
| 20:52.55 | goxboxlive | It was to much patches aplied |
| 20:53.12 | cr2 | where can i download it ? |
| 20:53.18 | goxboxlive | I removed all the machine patches and compiled qte and it worked |
| 20:53.27 | goxboxlive | i can upload it, hold on. |
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| 20:55.17 | goxboxlive | Just remember to aply your own modules adn zImage. |
| 20:56.10 | BoSJo | cr2: can you still not edit the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalASIC3 & http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BeetlesASIC3 |
| 20:56.14 | cr2 | my own ? |
| 20:57.14 | cr2 | BoSJo: i'll try. universal was not a problem. |
| 20:57.52 | cr2 | no. the same story. |
| 20:58.20 | BoSJo | hmmmm something is totally fucked on the xda wiki :-/ |
| 20:59.26 | cr2 | Last Modified: July 10, 2006 9:18 pm (minor edit) |
| 20:59.30 | cr2 | Last Author: bosjo |
| 20:59.34 | cr2 | Page Version: 4 |
| 20:59.38 | cr2 | Markup: Original (1.2 or 1.0) |
| 20:59.38 | cr2 | Size: 236 words, 2.1 Kb (2157 bytes) |
| 20:59.38 | cr2 | Hits: 817 |
| 20:59.38 | cr2 | Last Summary: |
| 20:59.39 | cr2 | Locked |
| 20:59.40 | cr2 | Locked ? |
| 21:00.40 | BoSJo | It says locked????, after you pasted the link I just made 2 . edits, diddent lock anything, but ill go check it out |
| 21:01.31 | BoSJo | cr2:try again |
| 21:04.01 | cr2 | still the same. pageinfo: locked. |
| 21:04.04 | goxboxlive | cr2 The image is in the tmp folder at gnulinux.biz. |
| 21:04.27 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_I2C_IDs |
| 21:04.32 | cr2 | this one is locked too. |
| 21:05.01 | cr2 | goxboxlive: thanks. hmm. what patches prevent it from working ??? |
| 21:05.59 | goxboxlive | cr2: I am asking lpotter to aply the Universal picture in sysinfo for me. I have added the device in versioninfo.cpp and also aplied the image of the Universal. Should i also ask him to add the BT applett and the odevice_htc.cpp and odevice.cpp |
| 21:06.27 | goxboxlive | All the machine machine patches, and the key.patch |
| 21:06.32 | BoSJo | cr2: try Ctrl+Shift+Reload or clear your browser history. Seems you are the only one having troubbles with this page |
| 21:06.56 | BoSJo | cr2: or another browser |
| 21:07.19 | BoSJo | cr2: just to check......perhaps use windows *LOL* |
| 21:07.57 | cr2 | BoSJo: no windows here. but it may be squid+privoxy. |
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| 21:08.29 | BoSJo | cr2: I know there is no Windows on your screen ;-) |
| 21:08.32 | cr2 | goxboxlive: what about blueangel and others ? |
| 21:08.56 | goxboxlive | Are you talking about pictures? |
| 21:09.42 | rob_w | cr2, on my sd |
| 21:09.58 | goxboxlive | I dont have any small pics of them, and i am not tha familiar with gimp. If other makes the pcs iƦll gladly aply them to the sysinfofile |
| 21:10.54 | cr2 | rob_w: i use ext3. can you create a small BA picture for goxboxlive ? |
| 21:11.22 | rob_w | cr2, sure .. |
| 21:11.37 | goxboxlive | What is the cpu info for blueangel? |
| 21:11.39 | goxboxlive | name |
| 21:11.49 | goxboxlive | we use HTC Universal |
| 21:11.52 | rob_w | cr2, actually the ba wiki carry both goxboxlive |
| 21:12.04 | cr2 | pxa263. look at the hh.org wiki. |
| 21:12.33 | cr2 | hehe. not that much free maps for Norway. http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/maplist.php?country=128 |
| 21:12.58 | cr2 | only Svalbard :) |
| 21:13.23 | rob_w | but he probably doens want a gpe screenshot inside that picture , for his use ;-) |
| 21:13.53 | rob_w | xtscal is sefaulting at me .. |
| 21:15.11 | rob_w | i better rebuild tslib also |
| 21:18.19 | rob_w | hmm NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: linux/kernel26 |
| 21:18.20 | rob_w | NOTE: package handhelds-pxa-2.6-2.6.16-hh0-r0: task do_fetch: failed |
| 21:21.36 | rob_w | damn it i cant even checkout .16 at hh.org cvs ?!? |
| 21:21.58 | goxboxlive | HTC_Blaueangel is added to versioninfi.cpp |
| 21:22.25 | BoSJo | cr2: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BeetlesASIC3 & http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_I2C_IDs once more |
| 21:22.42 | goxboxlive | row_w you got that right, bether find another one. |
| 21:22.50 | goxboxlive | rob_w |
| 21:24.06 | goxboxlive | cr2: look here: Update of /cvs/linux/kernel26/sound/arm there has been an update in the sound driver for pxa2xx-i2sound.c |
| 21:24.51 | BabelOued | cr2: ok , with my board ID and error LCD doesn't work, i try to fix it |
| 21:34.45 | goxboxlive | I found pictures of other devices, Should i also add them? Is the cpuinfo name HTC Apache? HTC Himalaye? HTC Alpine? and so on? |
| 21:36.58 | cr2 | BoSJo: i see that the page is not locked with konqueror, but the damn firefox. ok now it works :) |
| 21:37.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll look at pxa2xx-i2s-sound. |
| 21:37.51 | cr2 | yes, the cpuinfo is HTC Apache & so on. |
| 21:37.57 | goxboxlive | good |
| 21:38.11 | rob_w | what better cvs source for the .16 is there anyway ? |
| 21:38.25 | cr2 | rob_w: hh.org CVS head. |
| 21:38.31 | cr2 | .16-hh4 now. |
| 21:39.06 | BoSJo | cr2: yep, i seem to get som cache problems with Firefox too, have to Ctrl+Shift+Reload ?? |
| 21:41.05 | cr2 | i have switched off squid proxy, and rm -rf Cache in ~/.mozilla |
| 21:41.51 | BoSJo | cr2: did it help then? |
| 21:44.05 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:46.41 | BoSJo | cr2: Ok ill look at my own ~/.mozilla |
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| 21:54.21 | rob_w | i cant check out .16-hh4 with oe !? |
| 21:55.50 | cr2 | it's probably to tagged. get plain kernel26 |
| 21:56.01 | cr2 | s/to/not/ |
| 21:58.20 | rob_w | phuew |
| 21:58.30 | rob_w | so many things todo |
| 22:05.26 | cr2 | rob_w: w100fb first. |
| 22:05.58 | cr2 | the touchscreen will not be very difficult. |
| 22:06.11 | rob_w | i am stuck on touchcsreen even for .12 these days |
| 22:06.24 | cr2 | can you boot with serial console ? |
| 22:06.32 | cr2 | on .16 ? |
| 22:07.23 | rob_w | i never had a good cvs chechout of .16 yet :-( |
| 22:09.27 | rob_w | i think charging is also nice , right ? in any kernel |
| 22:12.17 | cr2 | rob_w: i need the lcd first. to debug other drivers. |
| 22:12.58 | BabelOued | cr2: i remove warning and error from blueangel_lcd.c |
| 22:13.29 | BabelOued | only to error are coment out, but only for suspend and resume |
| 22:13.41 | rob_w | i see ( or not ) :-) |
| 22:14.05 | BabelOued | it's with w100fb_gpio at link time |
| 22:15.27 | rob_w | tsstss now the keyboard autorepeats all the time .. . |
| 22:17.07 | cr2 | BabelOued: pastebin the diff. |
| 22:17.08 | rob_w | so the keyboard code is also to look at .. |
| 22:17.16 | rob_w | basicly all |
| 22:17.24 | BabelOued | ok |
| 22:17.40 | rob_w | once it was actually runnig smoother to me |
| 22:17.52 | cr2 | suspend and resume are the last concern now. |
| 22:18.08 | rob_w | even that worked |
| 22:18.11 | rob_w | already |
| 22:18.15 | cr2 | rob_w: i don't know what is wrong with .12 . nothing has changes since 6 months. |
| 22:19.14 | rob_w | ive no idea |
| 22:21.37 | rob_w | ok iam off .. at least i ve a image booting and can work via the keyboard ( to some extend ) |
| 22:59.07 | BabelOued | cr2: pastebin take long time |
| 23:22.05 | *** join/#htc-linux g3gg0 (n=g3gg0@ppp-82-135-67-82.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |