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| 00:02.38 | kdag | hia, im sure this is not the right place to ask this, but maybe someone here could tell me where to look |
| 00:03.09 | kdag | i have a qtek9090 that i will clean with linux soon, |
| 00:03.22 | kdag | but now i got a laser printer from the trash |
| 00:03.33 | kdag | and want to print via infrared.. |
| 00:03.47 | kdag | but im completely lost on howto do it |
| 00:04.01 | kdag | i hardly use the wince |
| 00:04.31 | kdag | and every seach in google comes full of commercial crap |
| 00:05.15 | kdag | any hint about where to go, appreciated |
| 00:13.25 | awelux_ | strange. I can boot and mount the initrd and get to the point where init is going to be executed but I can't execute anything. |
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| 10:59.12 | goxboxlive | it's strange, i am able to build the xanadux package (NOTE: package xanadux-un-2.6-2.6.12: completed) but the bootstrap image failes. Why is that? It os complaining about a lot of kernel-modules:openswan: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-ipsec |
| 10:59.12 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:59.44 | goxboxlive | task-bootstrap: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-ipv6-2.6 |
| 11:00.04 | goxboxlive | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:00.07 | goxboxlive | anyone familiar with Bitbake here? |
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| 14:04.14 | rob_w|mis | goxboxlive, go ask |
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| 15:33.12 | mndctrl_ | for my gsmc library, is it a big deal to put the listenToModem stuff to the application instead of the lib? |
| 15:33.57 | mndctrl_ | Only the listener... Cause I also want to listen to buttonpresses on the device, and this way I can poll both the modems and the buttons fd on the same poll.. |
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| 16:52.36 | *** topic/#htc-blueangel is HTC BlueAngel is still under development ! Feel free to ask and check also -> http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch | http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/ channel chat logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23htc-blueangel/ **upcoming gpe release is in org.openembedded.oz354fam083 dev tree !! http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7937511405.html |
| 17:09.31 | immolo | is there any news for some phone software on opie yet? |
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| 17:54.19 | goxboxlive | anyone here? |
| 17:56.37 | BabelOued | yes |
| 17:57.57 | goxboxlive | hi there. Are you familiar with Bitbake |
| 18:00.57 | BabelOued | i m like you, since yesturday, i m trying to compile, and today it's qorks |
| 18:01.01 | BabelOued | works |
| 18:02.47 | immolo | you guys got passed glibc? |
| 18:04.17 | BabelOued | yes this night but not enought disk space :( |
| 18:05.39 | immolo | NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8) |
| 18:05.39 | immolo | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - exiting |
| 18:05.39 | immolo | NOTE: Task failed: localedef returned an error. |
| 18:05.40 | immolo | :P |
| 18:05.44 | immolo | err |
| 18:05.44 | immolo | :( |
| 18:06.47 | BabelOued | you take local.conf from lkcl ? thre is two line at end of file for this i think |
| 18:07.35 | immolo | hmmm? |
| 18:07.43 | immolo | where is hosting it |
| 18:08.11 | BabelOued | http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel/ |
| 18:08.29 | immolo | thank you |
| 18:13.05 | goxboxlive | I have tried to build a bootstrap-image for the Blusangel, but i complains about modules depedencies |
| 18:14.32 | immolo | using the blueangel.conf in the tree |
| 18:14.37 | goxboxlive | Are you building from the 'oz354fam083' or the 'dev' tree? |
| 18:15.03 | immolo | oz for now |
| 18:15.38 | immolo | but anyway the blueangel.conf is out of date |
| 18:16.24 | goxboxlive | I havent done any thing to the bluangel.conf file. Shall i do something with it? I am bulding it this way 'bitbake -b /path-to-bootstrap-image/bootstrap-image.bb' Are you doing it the same way? |
| 18:16.26 | immolo | you need to add the rest of the modules to the config |
| 18:16.44 | immolo | you should build like this |
| 18:16.54 | immolo | bitbake bootstrap-image |
| 18:17.20 | immolo | if just just build bb files it won't build it's deps |
| 18:17.49 | immolo | the oe wiki is pretty good at getting you started |
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| 18:53.35 | immolo | hey rob |
| 19:04.41 | rob_w | sir |
| 19:06.49 | rob_w | how is it going |
| 19:07.55 | immolo | ok |
| 19:08.22 | immolo | oe and me are at each others necks again though |
| 19:12.38 | rob_w | dont take it personal :-) |
| 19:13.54 | immolo | I don't oe hates everyone :P |
| 19:14.27 | rob_w | but sometimes things really do look personal |
| 19:15.05 | immolo | you still running suse? |
| 19:19.02 | rob_w | yes |
| 19:19.35 | immolo | did glibc compile without any problems for you? |
| 19:20.58 | BabelOued | immolo: it's ok for me, glibC compile. I pass NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8) |
| 19:21.21 | rob_w | what is in your logs immolo |
| 19:21.59 | immolo | rob_w, I'm just recompling, give me a sec and I'll tell you how it goes |
| 19:22.18 | rob_w | sure |
| 19:23.18 | BabelOued | rob_w: what is minimum file to compile gomunicator ? |
| 19:27.12 | rob_w | BabelOued, gtk , db, alsa, and some more |
| 19:27.44 | rob_w | or such |
| 19:28.13 | immolo | has gomunicator got any better lately? |
| 19:28.51 | immolo | like better contact support? |
| 19:29.37 | rob_w | it has basics .. |
| 19:30.07 | immolo | can I select a name and it dials the number saved to that name yet? |
| 19:31.10 | rob_w | it shows you the name if you have that person in the contacts |
| 19:31.41 | immolo | I noticed that but I have a bad memory when it comes to numbers |
| 19:32.31 | rob_w | hang |
| 19:32.33 | rob_w | on |
| 19:35.40 | immolo | k |
| 19:36.39 | rob_w | fe we could make the "Send To:" entry widget with a drop down menu where we list the contacts db |
| 19:37.02 | immolo | That would be great |
| 19:37.35 | immolo | where are logs kept for bitbake packages |
| 19:37.45 | immolo | can't find them anywhere |
| 19:38.40 | rob_w | go your/build/tmp/work/PACKAGE_NAME/temp/log_do_xxxx or such |
| 19:38.58 | immolo | ah hah |
| 19:39.00 | immolo | thanks |
| 19:43.09 | immolo | ok I can't find a log with the problem in |
| 19:43.24 | immolo | which is very strange as I've just look at all of them |
| 19:47.08 | rob_w | which package ? |
| 19:47.38 | rob_w | gomunicator also misses comments |
| 19:47.57 | rob_w | specially the pdu things |
| 19:48.12 | immolo | I'm just trying to get glibc working |
| 19:49.45 | rob_w | what was the last output of the glibc build |
| 19:51.04 | immolo | NOTE: preparing tree for binary locale generation |
| 19:51.04 | immolo | NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8) |
| 19:51.04 | immolo | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - exiting |
| 19:51.04 | immolo | NOTE: Task failed: localedef returned an error. |
| 19:51.05 | immolo | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r3: task do_package: failed |
| 19:51.05 | immolo | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 19:51.09 | immolo | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627: failed |
| 19:51.11 | immolo | ERROR: Build of nano failed |
| 19:51.51 | rob_w | nano? |
| 19:52.00 | immolo | text editor |
| 19:52.22 | immolo | good way to test the toolchain and damn good text editor |
| 19:54.45 | rob_w | is that also in the do_package logs ? |
| 19:55.49 | immolo | no |
| 19:56.00 | immolo | there was no do_package |
| 20:01.33 | rob_w | odd |
| 20:06.19 | immolo | I know |
| 20:06.32 | immolo | I'll do some playing |
| 20:06.50 | immolo | oh I need to ask you something anyway rob |
| 20:07.32 | rob_w | cool |
| 20:07.46 | immolo | do you think the user side of using linux on the ba shold be kept away from the development side |
| 20:08.19 | immolo | as in a say a wiki just for things like setting up video players and other useful stuff? |
| 20:09.14 | rob_w | those things come more to the gpe part |
| 20:10.10 | immolo | a default gpe install doesn't include them though |
| 20:10.52 | immolo | and as Linux main selling point is choice we shouldn't force an app where a choice can be made |
| 20:11.28 | immolo | that's my view though I was hoping to see how others felt about it |
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| 20:42.48 | BabelOued | hi cr2, How good is universal today ? |
| 20:45.10 | cr2 | my 160GB raid became very unhappy today, and some data is lost :( |
| 20:45.39 | cr2 | but all the important data is in sf.net CVS :) |
| 20:46.15 | BabelOued | hardware card problem ? or disk ? |
| 20:46.22 | cr2 | one disk. |
| 20:46.38 | BabelOued | on raid 5 ? it 's ok |
| 20:46.38 | cr2 | these IDE disks are shit |
| 20:47.09 | cr2 | my raid5 SCSI runs with 9 year old disks without any problem. |
| 20:47.30 | cr2 | no it was not raid5. |
| 20:48.31 | cr2 | i have tried to debug the miniUSB-A host connection. |
| 20:48.31 | BabelOued | at house i use linux software raid on old pc and nbd to use it throught network |
| 20:49.08 | cr2 | got some gpio dump data, but still it is very complicated setup. |
| 20:49.17 | cr2 | the same for the UMTS phone. |
| 20:52.19 | BabelOued | today i see OPIE screen on universal, it's beautifull opie in 640 x480 |
| 20:52.46 | cr2 | yes. now if we have debugged the touchscreen driver... |
| 20:52.56 | cr2 | and we need a phone app. |
| 20:53.15 | BabelOued | yes it's hard to click on window :) |
| 20:53.22 | BabelOued | phone app like opiedial :) |
| 20:54.03 | cr2 | i don't mind if the motorola design will be simply cloned |
| 20:55.10 | BabelOued | noo but with a start point, we can do a lot of thing |
| 20:55.33 | BabelOued | before i want to help on WIFI for BA |
| 20:55.34 | cr2 | maybe i should give up on the phone right now, and debug the touchscreen driver. |
| 20:55.40 | BabelOued | because it's very useful |
| 20:55.47 | cr2 | ba wifi == uni wifi |
| 20:55.52 | cr2 | or very close |
| 20:55.55 | BabelOued | yes |
| 20:56.04 | cr2 | actually not == |
| 20:56.10 | cr2 | it uses pcmcia |
| 20:56.41 | BabelOued | there is some strange thing when use bluetooth and wifi at the same time on BA |
| 20:57.02 | cr2 | i have dumped more ba asic3 data with the latest haret, but still don't understand some things. |
| 20:57.30 | cr2 | they are multiplexed in some funny way. |
| 20:57.59 | BabelOued | ok |
| 20:58.37 | BabelOued | my wifi don't work well on WM3 when BA is connected with USB or bluetooth |
| 20:59.04 | cr2 | bt headset is also a complex thing to debug. |
| 20:59.17 | cr2 | wince networking is not great |
| 20:59.31 | cr2 | i could freeze it with ping -f |
| 20:59.46 | cr2 | linux had no problem on the same hardware. |
| 20:59.53 | cr2 | it was jornada820. |
| 20:59.54 | BabelOued | i test streaming with VLC over WIFI, it work well |
| 21:00.01 | BabelOued | ok |
| 21:01.06 | cr2 | i think i will debug the touchscreen driver. |
| 21:01.26 | cr2 | but first i probably need to switch to 2.6.15 kernel |
| 21:01.28 | lamikr | cr2: Do you have powerbutton working with your htc? |
| 21:01.53 | cr2 | the button itself - yes, but not the suspend. |
| 21:02.16 | cr2 | do you know how to send a "suspend" request to 1 driver ? |
| 21:02.29 | cr2 | not the apm --suspend. |
| 21:02.34 | lamikr | cr2: Is that treated differently in htc compared to other buttons. |
| 21:02.49 | cr2 | it's gpio0 |
| 21:03.01 | cr2 | can be any other keyboard key. |
| 21:03.32 | lamikr | cr2: I am able to get button events from all other keys except from the power button. |
| 21:04.00 | cr2 | only the reset button is "hardware" reset. |
| 21:04.16 | cr2 | you have a different cpu. |
| 21:04.36 | lamikr | cr2: Yes I have omap1510 based. |
| 21:04.50 | cr2 | do you have something like haret ? |
| 21:05.29 | cr2 | i don't know omap well, but it should not be very difficult to modify pxa haret. |
| 21:06.16 | lamikr | cr2: Yes, not so advanced one but something like that. But can you use haret for checking out register changes when the wince goes to sleep from your power button press? |
| 21:06.37 | cr2 | i have added a lot of debug options to haret, and can watch the battery data. |
| 21:06.42 | cr2 | partially. |
| 21:06.57 | cr2 | before my wifi connection will be suspended ;) |
| 21:07.27 | cr2 | i had a better idea: to send a wince powerdown event to a device driver. |
| 21:07.32 | lamikr | I noticed yesterday that h6300 has tps65010, that seems to be somekind of power control chipset. I believe it manages the power button in my device. http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tps65010.html |
| 21:07.46 | cr2 | i want to do the same in linux, but don't know how. |
| 21:08.21 | cr2 | it can be. |
| 21:08.44 | lamikr | I did not understand. Did you modify where the power button sends event in wince? |
| 21:08.47 | cr2 | get the haret and run "powermon 60" to watch the battery for 1 min |
| 21:09.02 | cr2 | i think it is cpu independent thing. |
| 21:09.09 | BabelOued | what is your haret version ? |
| 21:09.46 | cr2 | there is a wince api function , it probably calls an ioctl or such. |
| 21:10.04 | cr2 | http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 21:10.20 | cr2 | try "dump asic3" on ba |
| 21:10.35 | cr2 | and read the "help dump" and "help" |
| 21:10.44 | cr2 | i'm lazy to write the docs |
| 21:10.51 | BabelOued | thanks, ok i try now |
| 21:10.58 | cr2 | it can really a lot of things now. |
| 21:11.14 | lamikr | What is gnuharethelper? |
| 21:11.29 | cr2 | vibra test |
| 21:11.57 | cr2 | but it can be modified to trigger other hardware events too. |
| 21:12.06 | lamikr | ok. |
| 21:12.17 | BabelOued | oh oh 8:30 AM or 9:10, AM no it's a joke :) |
| 21:13.15 | lamikr | Does http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/haret-gnu-20060217.tar.bz2 contain the latest sources that can be used for compiling it with the wince-gcc? |
| 21:14.00 | cr2 | no. |
| 21:14.16 | cr2 | the latest source is in the xanadux.sf.net CVS |
| 21:14.30 | lamikr | ok |
| 21:14.39 | cr2 | haret/haret-gnu module |
| 21:15.17 | cr2 | tell me if the binary works. |
| 21:15.24 | cr2 | the powermon thing. |
| 21:15.40 | cr2 | a lot of other stuff is tuned for pxa27x |
| 21:15.59 | cr2 | but can be easily backported to pxa26x (blueangel and himalaya) |
| 21:16.34 | cr2 | but it mainly comes to the memory locations of the registers. |
| 21:17.02 | cr2 | there are also a lot of cpu -independent things. |
| 21:17.02 | lamikr | cr2: So I could just start haret also with the h6300 and try the "powermon 60"? |
| 21:17.12 | cr2 | i think yes |
| 21:17.26 | cr2 | try it |
| 21:17.52 | lamikr | Yes, I will try. Takes a couple of minute. |
| 21:18.07 | cr2 | many other functions are also cpu independent. |
| 21:18.11 | cr2 | memory tests |
| 21:18.33 | cr2 | and watching the register (wreg, wreg16) |
| 21:19.22 | lamikr | What registers are those? |
| 21:20.13 | cr2 | wreg address time |
| 21:20.34 | cr2 | you define it youself |
| 21:20.34 | cr2 | any memory address |
| 21:22.57 | lamikr | nice |
| 21:26.20 | BabelOued | yeah connected to HARET over WIFI :) |
| 21:27.05 | cr2 | BabelOued: do you know how to do it over bluetooth ? |
| 21:27.53 | BabelOued | i made it at my work with windobe but at home under Linux, i think maybe with the right HOWTO |
| 21:28.38 | BabelOued | you want to have two dump ? one with WIFI activated and another over bluetooth ? |
| 21:28.58 | BabelOued | to see data register |
| 21:29.23 | cr2 | no. it can be useful to connect over bt and switch off the wifi. |
| 21:29.34 | BabelOued | ok |
| 21:30.08 | BabelOued | i can do that but i need my key and it is at work, tomorrow i do that |
| 21:30.25 | BabelOued | can i made a connection over usb under WM |
| 21:30.36 | BabelOued | i can do same thing ? |
| 21:32.19 | BabelOued | strange thing |
| 21:32.21 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:32.34 | BabelOued | with a network connection BA go to sleep |
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| 21:38.31 | hikj | Where can I download a current gpe image for the uni? |
| 21:40.34 | hikj | ..and is charging and suspend working on the uni now? Thanks! |
| 21:40.41 | cr2 | it does not exist. |
| 21:41.10 | cr2 | charging works, but will probably overcharge the battery, because the "current" settings are wrong. |
| 21:41.24 | cr2 | suspend is not yet debugged. |
| 21:49.40 | BabelOued | cr2, it's ok |
| 21:50.39 | hikj | suspend works now? |
| 22:00.03 | BabelOued | not for suspend |
| 22:00.21 | cr2 | it will work for the devices that implement it, but some should be debugged first. like the LCD for example. |
| 22:00.31 | cr2 | the resume is a different story :) |
| 22:00.50 | BabelOued | cr2: there is a lot of thing :) |
| 22:01.00 | cr2 | there is some trickery involved. but blueangel implements it. |
| 22:01.01 | BabelOued | what is CF Sleep ? |
| 22:01.11 | cr2 | where ? |
| 22:01.25 | BabelOued | i make two test |
| 22:01.48 | BabelOued | a connection to haret with synce under linux and wifi off |
| 22:01.56 | BabelOued | and a connection over wifi |
| 22:03.34 | BabelOued | there are different but i need to hard reset BA each time i use haret |
| 22:08.20 | cr2 | yes, there is some bug there, but it does not affect the wince5 on universal. |
| 22:09.56 | BabelOued | ok, and on universal i've seen that soft reboot under linux is ok |
| 22:10.55 | BabelOued | i 've the two dump in the same case |
| 22:11.03 | goxboxlive | Cr2: Is it alot of work to move over to the 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 22:15.32 | lamikr | cr2: I have not started the haret in h6300. But it ask me to launch somekind of script file... |
| 22:16.12 | cr2 | lamikr: telnet over wifi to port 9999 |
| 22:16.42 | cr2 | goxboxlive: not at all. i have ported the drivers, but the kernel don't boot. |
| 22:17.08 | cr2 | there is also a mystery that the kernel boots only when the phone is switched on. |
| 22:17.30 | cr2 | i thought it was usb host, and disabled it, but there is also something else. |
| 22:18.27 | lamikr | cr2: I need to do that tomorrow. I do not have wifi here. |
| 22:18.38 | cr2 | usb ? |
| 22:19.10 | cr2 | i don't know how to connect over bt. |
| 22:20.06 | lamikr | I do not want to start playing with than in wince today... I have used bt bnep network with 2 linuxes (dekstop and laptop) but newer with Windows. |
| 22:21.01 | cr2 | wince does not support bnep |
| 22:22.12 | cr2 | lamikr, do you have a gps receiver ? |
| 22:22.23 | cr2 | nice picture here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/2/29/Osm-planet-1.jpg |
| 22:23.31 | lamikr | Yes, really nice. No I do not have... I have one telephone which has gps in it's shelders but it is not very good. |
| 22:24.46 | cr2 | it's build up of the gps tracks. |
| 22:26.12 | goxboxlive | Cr2: It sounds like a good idea to finish the touchscreen driver first, i miss that a lot and know others do to |
| 22:27.31 | cr2 | i agree, but don't want to spend too much time debugging the 2.6.12 driver ... |
| 22:38.55 | goxboxlive | Of course, i understand. |
| 22:41.40 | lamikr | I need to go to sleep, goodnight. |
| 22:59.56 | BabelOued | cr2: there is two different GPIO ( GPIO 75 and GPIO17 ) |
| 23:11.50 | BabelOued | go to bed. Goodnight |
