| 00:00.40 | awelux_ | ok. so 20 channel is utter nonsense. |
| 00:01.08 | awelux_ | The only hope is that the more expensive devices have a better reciever. |
| 00:01.42 | cr2 | they are good enough. |
| 00:02.10 | cr2 | the problems lie in a different place. |
| 00:04.46 | cr2 | i am tired. good night. |
| 00:08.53 | awelux_ | gn8 |
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| 12:11.37 | AlphaPi[jr] | re |
| 12:30.20 | awelux_ | hi AlphaPi[jr] |
| 12:33.50 | AlphaPi[jr] | hi awelux_ |
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| 14:20.56 | [oppie] | can I ask anybody for some help here? |
| 14:22.36 | [oppie] | i am in my blueangel debugger screen and want to exit with the mail button, but it won't exit.. |
| 14:27.28 | awelux_ | I guess the interrupts are switched off in the debugger |
| 14:28.03 | awelux_ | you can always do a soft reset. or wait for cr2 ;) |
| 14:30.13 | [oppie] | but i changed the clean registry hive and format storage to yes, that's all lost then? |
| 14:32.19 | [oppie] | i flashed the wm5-tuma rom on it and nedd to change these options |
| 14:32.25 | [oppie] | need |
| 14:34.17 | awelux_ | I don't have a blueangel. Idle a little, maybe someone with experience with the debugger will show up. |
| 14:34.24 | awelux_ | And go buy a SD card for backups ;) |
| 14:34.37 | [oppie] | i have a 1gig.. |
| 14:35.02 | [oppie] | cr2 is the one with the most experience? |
| 14:52.13 | [oppie] | well, i did a softreset, i'll come back later.. |
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| 16:01.55 | Jim-- | anyone here? |
| 16:05.22 | awelux_ | yes |
| 16:40.22 | rob_w | re |
| 16:48.46 | Jim-- | when do u guys thinkg we'll have a stable release for our blueangels? |
| 16:59.57 | rob_w | determine "stable" please ;-) ... |
| 17:01.15 | rob_w | Jim--, did you try it already ? |
| 17:01.48 | rob_w | but surely "the installation" could packed more together |
| 17:03.27 | rob_w | iam kinday so busy these days that i hardly find 10 minutes for a beer |
| 17:04.12 | Jim-- | well |
| 17:04.23 | Jim-- | im put off by the installation process to b honest |
| 17:04.35 | rob_w | no shame , |
| 17:04.43 | Jim-- | currently have wm5.. which in some aspects is ok.. but usability is crap! |
| 17:04.59 | Jim-- | wm2003 was flawed to begin with |
| 17:05.15 | rob_w | gpe itself improved quite a lot these days , |
| 17:06.15 | rob_w | let me see if i could run up a new build, which we need to wide spread test the gsm and such |
| 17:10.24 | Jim-- | in the future.. do u think we'll have simple updtate process like we have with current roms? |
| 17:11.34 | rob_w | is there is someone who builds the images , yes |
| 17:14.37 | rob_w | if there is , i meant |
| 17:15.07 | rob_w | Jim--, where in the installation did you drop off ? |
| 17:24.12 | Jim-- | nowhere |
| 17:24.18 | Jim-- | i didnt even try |
| 17:24.19 | Jim-- | :) |
| 17:24.37 | Jim-- | any chanes of bricking the device btw? |
| 17:47.14 | awelux_ | Good question. chances yes. |
| 17:47.24 | awelux_ | high chance? not really. |
| 17:48.28 | awelux_ | the chance is slightly higher than with a normal rom update though |
| 17:49.21 | awelux_ | ok. just got a SD card I will use exclusively for development. And a card reader. Pluging them in now |
| 17:50.52 | awelux_ | nice. I can use the new mini usb cable with the magician too. |
| 17:54.37 | cr2 | hi awelux |
| 17:55.48 | cr2 | i have downloaded the pppd source, and saw the 'chat' program. i have already forgot how to use ppp :) |
| 17:56.23 | cr2 | i am thinking about a 'chat' modification to talk to the htc modem. |
| 18:00.49 | awelux_ | isn't that the task of ppp to set everything up so chat can do the login ? |
| 18:01.41 | awelux_ | o.O |
| 18:01.58 | awelux_ | sometimes linux get's to much like windows |
| 18:02.11 | cr2 | i am not interested in the ppp itself |
| 18:02.28 | cr2 | i want to test the modem and look at the logfile. |
| 18:02.37 | awelux_ | I plug in the SD card and a file browser window pops up with the opened sd card... |
| 18:02.39 | cr2 | windows ? |
| 18:02.46 | cr2 | damn suse. |
| 18:02.57 | awelux_ | ubuntu |
| 18:03.11 | awelux_ | but the window doesn't disappear when I plug the card |
| 18:03.36 | cr2 | next time they will push gnome on you. |
| 18:04.03 | awelux_ | I'm currently using gnome. So it was a gnome window already |
| 18:04.18 | cr2 | i had a very hard time to convince the suse installer that i don't need this MONO crap. |
| 18:04.43 | cr2 | i'm a kde zealot :lol: |
| 18:05.00 | awelux_ | What I've seen of mono was good. To be able to run the same binaries on windows and linux. |
| 18:05.07 | cr2 | though i don't use anything except the window manager. |
| 18:05.09 | awelux_ | And to use the native gui |
| 18:05.40 | awelux_ | and, unlike java apps mono apps start fast. |
| 18:05.40 | cr2 | have you ever tried to write a gtk program ? |
| 18:05.56 | cr2 | oh. java. |
| 18:06.00 | awelux_ | no |
| 18:06.15 | awelux_ | But I wrote java apps a few years ago. |
| 18:06.25 | awelux_ | swing is a nightmare |
| 18:06.46 | awelux_ | Most of the time I spend in the documentation of bugs. |
| 18:06.58 | cr2 | i don't like c++, but for writing gui apps qt has convinced me that c++ is a necessary evil. |
| 18:07.01 | awelux_ | Very much like windows development |
| 18:07.12 | cr2 | write once, debug everywhere :) |
| 18:07.22 | awelux_ | lol |
| 18:07.28 | awelux_ | nice one |
| 18:08.01 | awelux_ | What I don't like about qt apps is that they have their own "preprocessor" for the kde files |
| 18:08.14 | cr2 | kde ? |
| 18:08.17 | awelux_ | or did that change ? |
| 18:08.26 | cr2 | you mean 'moc' ? |
| 18:09.05 | awelux_ | there was an additional step bevore compile/linking. Probably moc yes. |
| 18:09.18 | awelux_ | Btw. I just bought three new pda pens |
| 18:09.34 | awelux_ | They should arrive during the week per mail |
| 18:09.41 | cr2 | do you lose them often ? |
| 18:10.14 | awelux_ | yes. |
| 18:10.50 | awelux_ | two were shipped with the device. |
| 18:10.58 | awelux_ | And I'm always searching them. |
| 18:11.05 | cr2 | last time i have bought 3 pens for the zaurus. they were for palm tungsten, and much better than the native one. |
| 18:11.12 | awelux_ | Now even after an hour of search I couldn't find one. |
| 18:11.13 | cr2 | still using one one of them. |
| 18:14.59 | cr2 | great. chat can send the octal digits and use escape codes. |
| 18:16.48 | awelux_ | do you want to use chat to debug the communication under haret or use it for communication when linux is booted? |
| 18:18.00 | awelux_ | funny. the made in taiwan card is 1GB the made in china one is 512MB |
| 18:18.05 | cr2 | i want to send all possible commands and log the replies when booted into linux. |
| 18:18.19 | cr2 | chat is in the image! |
| 18:18.33 | cr2 | not a big surprise, because of pppd. |
| 18:18.58 | awelux_ | you hope to discover unusual stuff? |
| 18:19.38 | cr2 | i have read that there is an AT command on universal to report the umts radio temperature :) |
| 18:19.46 | awelux_ | o.O |
| 18:19.47 | awelux_ | nice |
| 18:19.56 | awelux_ | ohhhhhh. I like the new ubuntu |
| 18:20.27 | awelux_ | I switched this christmas. Bevore I was using a mandrake cooker installation dating back to 2001. |
| 18:20.37 | awelux_ | A lot has changed now. |
| 18:21.23 | awelux_ | Putting in a music CD will pop up an audio application and you can just click to start the cd playback. |
| 18:23.17 | cr2 | i am distribution-agnostic. the stuff that i want usually does not work properly with all this gui stuff, and i mainly use self written and self compiled programs. |
| 18:30.36 | awelux_ | I did that for a while but it was so much trouble. That's why I liked mandrake cooker (the mandrake development tree). I could use the distribution stuff for things I didn't care about. |
| 18:30.36 | awelux_ | And when a new library was required to compile something it was usually up on cooker already. |
| 18:31.34 | awelux_ | But constant updating will break such a distribution over time. |
| 20:48.28 | rob_w | i am checking out the oe branch .. so if god s will , i can bake fresh images for all of us |
| 20:53.11 | cr2 | hi rob_w |
| 20:53.35 | rob_w | hi |
| 20:53.38 | cr2 | what about removing the tsdev module ? |
| 20:53.49 | cr2 | and adding the other htc phones ? |
| 20:54.36 | rob_w | sure , let me see what i can do .. right now oe jokes with me |
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| 22:59.00 | cr2 | awelux, what is at 0x0c000000 and 0x0c000014 ? |
| 22:59.34 | awelux | hmm. no idea |
| 22:59.37 | awelux | let me check |
| 23:01.08 | cr2 | 90666264: a9b00000 ldmgeib r0!, {} |
| 23:01.17 | cr2 | 90666268: a9b00014 ldmgeib r0!, {r2, r4} |
| 23:02.55 | awelux | hmm |
| 23:03.10 | awelux | why a9b? |
| 23:03.24 | cr2 | sorry. wrong table. |
| 23:03.28 | awelux | yep |
| 23:03.37 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianVirtualMemoryMapping |
| 23:03.42 | awelux | did you make a full dump and are searching for content ? |
| 23:04.28 | cr2 | a short look at the .data segment |
| 23:04.49 | cr2 | the non-const structs are there. |
| 23:05.25 | cr2 | it is 0x08000000 and 0x08000014 |
| 23:05.55 | cr2 | since you can't boot a "normal" way we need a bruteforce way ;) |
| 23:10.10 | cr2 | wheee. are they reusing the headers ? |
| 23:14.13 | cr2 | btw. how many leds do you have ? |
| 23:17.51 | cr2 | do you have 9640 or 9650 CAM ? afaik there are linux drivers for both. |
| 23:25.53 | awelux | hehe |
| 23:26.09 | awelux | I've got the new SD card. so I'm open to experiments there |
| 23:40.43 | awelux | 0c000000 | 00000020 000000c0 000000e0 00000000 | ............... |
| 23:40.43 | awelux | 0c000010 | 00000002 0000002a 00000008 00000004 | ....*........... |
| 23:41.03 | awelux | 08000000 | 00000008 00000020 0000000c 00000019 | .... ........... |
| 23:41.03 | awelux | 08000010 | 00000008 00000006 00000000 00000000 | ............... |
| 23:41.25 | awelux | hmm |