| 00:00.41 | cr2 | mosaic on X with 4MB RAM and 256K VRAM. that was so nice. and swapping,swapping,swapping. but not crashing :) |
| 00:02.19 | cr2 | hmm. it was a slackware 1.0.8 CD i have installed. |
| 00:02.48 | awelux__ | he. mine was slackware3 |
| 00:03.48 | cr2 | i have spend a lot of time searching for the mutsumi cdrom drive. it was the only one with the linux driver! |
| 00:04.03 | awelux__ | But I'm "only" 29 so I had no contact to anything beyond an atari TT at that time. |
| 00:04.30 | cr2 | i'm 35 |
| 00:04.52 | awelux__ | In this generation just a few years make a big difference |
| 00:05.53 | awelux__ | people just a few years youger didn't grew up with computer systems were you would understand the basics just by playing with the computer. |
| 00:05.54 | cr2 | yes. i still know how the transistor is working from these days. the students today have a lot of problems with that. |
| 00:06.05 | awelux__ | Now the GUI's hide any complexity |
| 00:06.49 | cr2 | heh. i was teached that using macroassembler is the most natural way to use a computer :) |
| 00:06.55 | awelux__ | And learning how to work with a GUI is wasted time. It will be completely different five years from now. |
| 00:07.19 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 00:07.25 | awelux__ | ok. apparently I'm already a few years to young o.O |
| 00:07.57 | cr2 | and the losers usually use basic :) |
| 00:08.13 | awelux__ | And they still do... |
| 00:08.31 | cr2 | that's the historical irony. |
| 00:08.42 | awelux__ | sad but true. |
| 00:08.58 | awelux__ | When I got me first PC a friend did come over. |
| 00:09.06 | awelux__ | And we wnated to do something with it. |
| 00:09.14 | awelux__ | I had no games. |
| 00:09.28 | awelux__ | So after trying a few dos commands we found gwbasic |
| 00:09.35 | awelux__ | finally something we understood |
| 00:10.09 | awelux__ | We wrote a program that played "sur le pond d'avignion" in a loop |
| 00:10.30 | awelux__ | After two loops we started searching for the "run-stop" button... |
| 00:11.07 | awelux__ | Remember there is no volume control for the internal speaker ^^ |
| 00:11.23 | cr2 | games. i remember the "original" pacman written in assembler and running on the green vt100 console over 9600 line. it was a beauty :) |
| 00:11.31 | cr2 | yes. standard feature. |
| 00:11.54 | awelux__ | Of course we didn't save before we typed run |
| 00:11.57 | awelux__ | After a few minutes we gave up and my first pc program got lost. |
| 00:12.36 | cr2 | floppies were something very special. |
| 00:12.42 | awelux__ | hehe |
| 00:13.07 | cr2 | and it was possible to program in 32K ram. |
| 00:13.37 | cr2 | that were the times. |
| 00:14.02 | cr2 | i remeber writing a program in pascal with inline assembler :) |
| 00:14.49 | awelux__ | I learned the hard way that you can't use a floppy puncher to double the capacity of pc disks |
| 00:14.49 | cr2 | :) |
| 00:14.49 | awelux__ | Yes I started using tourbo pascal with version 4.01 |
| 00:14.50 | awelux__ | That didn't had any inline assembler yet. |
| 00:14.50 | awelux__ | I think that was new in version 6 |
| 00:15.37 | cr2 | hehe. it was dec pascal on pdp-11. with very good docs. |
| 00:16.15 | awelux__ | oh |
| 00:16.20 | cr2 | i was forced to do something in 5.5 |
| 00:16.54 | cr2 | i still use "joe" as a text editor. ctrl-b ctrl-k :) |
| 00:17.04 | cr2 | ctrl-x. |
| 00:32.43 | cr2 | btw, what pda from the hh.org CVS has a pxa27x framebuffer ? |
| 00:34.49 | cr2 | asus716 has pxafb. with some recent changes. |
| 00:36.21 | cr2 | it has pxa-mci like the magician. |
| 00:43.53 | awelux__ | hmm. no idea |
| 00:49.13 | awelux__ | ah |
| 00:49.53 | awelux__ | After switching off MMU I need to use 0x40e00018 instead of 0xaee00018 to access the GPIOs |
| 00:50.10 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:50.33 | awelux__ | nice. I think I reach the kernel now. |
| 00:52.35 | awelux__ | ok. now to touch the gpio's from the kernel. And then continue with getting the devices to work one afte another |
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