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| 02:50.16 | lkcl | heya folks - i'm just doing new gpe and opie images - usual place: http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel. |
| 02:57.47 | pof | hi :) |
| 02:58.37 | pof | lkcl: you don't sleep ¿? |
| 02:59.58 | pof | my bitbake gpe-image fails when compiling dbus... i'm stuck :( |
| 03:16.08 | lkcl | heya pof. |
| 03:16.13 | lkcl | i try to. |
| 03:16.49 | lkcl | okay: it's fairly common to have to do _yet_ another monotone pull and then update (and if you get conflicts, merge) |
| 03:17.43 | lkcl | actually, while i'm here i might as well do another monotone pull, see what happens... |
| 03:19.23 | pof | i did it, but it says everything is up to date |
| 03:19.25 | lkcl | plus remember you're usually downloading the latest cvs... |
| 03:19.42 | lkcl | you used that script the monotone.get.sh one? |
| 03:19.57 | pof | yes |
| 03:20.01 | pof | well, i modified it a bit |
| 03:20.06 | pof | i'm using this commands: |
| 03:20.07 | pof | monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded.dev |
| 03:20.07 | pof | monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded.dreambox |
| 03:20.08 | pof | monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
| 03:20.08 | pof | cd /stuff/org.openembedded.dev && monotone update |
| 03:20.08 | pof | cd /stuff/org.openembedded.dreambox && monotone update |
| 03:20.09 | pof | cd /stuff/org.openembedded.oz354fam083 && monotone update |
| 03:20.11 | pof | sorry for the flood |
| 03:20.26 | lkcl | no, don't do that. |
| 03:21.11 | lkcl | hmmm, maybe you _do_ have to do that, i don't know. |
| 03:21.17 | pof | lol |
| 03:21.29 | lkcl | i only do cvs org.openembedded.dev && monotone update hmmm :) |
| 03:21.43 | pof | i don't really understand why are there 3 different branches |
| 03:21.59 | lkcl | nobody told me! :) |
| 03:22.31 | pof | and also I had to go trough your patches and modifying a lot of stuff by hand |
| 03:22.59 | lkcl | you're applying it to the org.openembedded.dev stuff not the oz354fam083 stuff, yes? |
| 03:22.59 | pof | basically the conf/machine/blueangel.conf stuff |
| 03:23.17 | pof | to get the right kernel compilation and so... |
| 03:23.26 | pof | yes.. at first I applied it at the 3 branches |
| 03:23.36 | pof | but now, I'm only using the .dev one |
| 03:24.00 | lkcl | okay - you have a line BBFILES := /home/.asdjk/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb |
| 03:24.30 | lkcl | and you're _not_ adding the org.openembedded.oz354fam03 stuff (this is in local.conf) |
| 03:25.08 | lkcl | the important thing is to use a correct DISTRO - i have "familiar-unstable". |
| 03:25.15 | pof | i might have it wrong |
| 03:25.17 | pof | BBFILES := "/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 03:25.40 | pof | this is what I have in my local.conf |
| 03:25.49 | lkcl | if you use "familiar-0.8.3" then you'lll get stacks of compile errors as the wrong classes/asdkasdkl.thing is included |
| 03:26.10 | lkcl | cos the developers got rid of DISTRO="familiar-dev" or whatever it was |
| 03:26.18 | pof | yah, i have familiar-unestable on local.conf as well |
| 03:26.30 | lkcl | ack. |
| 03:26.40 | pof | i got the local.conf from your page and modified it to match my paths |
| 03:26.45 | lkcl | ack. |
| 03:27.48 | lkcl | oh - btw - i'm having difficulty contacting oesources.org (http) |
| 03:27.56 | pof | yes, i had to |
| 03:28.09 | lkcl | so comment out the line CVS_TARBALL_STASH |
| 03:28.21 | pof | yes , that's what I did :) |
| 03:28.25 | lkcl | :) |
| 03:28.45 | lkcl | update here we go (in org.openembedded.org) |
| 03:28.46 | lkcl | ah. |
| 03:28.54 | lkcl | they've done a merge of my stuff. |
| 03:29.06 | lkcl | the developers. |
| 03:29.34 | pof | and also there where some .bb files which where pulling stuff directly from oesources (openswan i think) and I had to modify the source in the bb file to get the source tarball... |
| 03:29.59 | lkcl | oh bollocks, here we go *sigh*. |
| 03:30.06 | pof | so if I update my tree now, should it have your changes merged ? |
| 03:30.44 | lkcl | no, bizarrely, it shouldn't. something's screwed up... |
| 03:30.48 | lkcl | gimme a min to work out what |
| 03:30.56 | pof | ok, no problem |
| 03:31.49 | lkcl | _great_ friggin bug in monotone. |
| 03:33.41 | pof | are you building the opie image as well ? |
| 03:33.48 | lkcl | done that already. |
| 03:34.09 | pof | just opie-image or opie-kdepim-image ? |
| 03:34.21 | lkcl | opie-image |
| 03:35.01 | pof | ok |
| 03:35.06 | pof | i'm downloading it now :) |
| 03:35.24 | lkcl | _whoa_, massive update - uh-oh.... |
| 03:35.43 | lkcl | that doesn't inspire me with confidence... |
| 03:36.23 | pof | hehe |
| 03:37.11 | pof | i'm booting your opie image :P |
| 03:37.13 | lkcl | i just seen about 100 file updates whizz past my screen |
| 03:37.18 | lkcl | good luck |
| 03:37.43 | pof | no gui... just "familiar login:" |
| 03:37.53 | lkcl | you _might_ be aable to run /usr/bin/calibrate (it should be there) from an ssh login. |
| 03:38.04 | lkcl | oh - you need to copy the right modules across, manually. |
| 03:38.07 | lkcl | remember? |
| 03:38.23 | pof | yes |
| 03:38.32 | pof | i do have to chroot into /mnt ? |
| 03:39.07 | lkcl | get the modules across to the sdcard and you won't have to do anything like that. |
| 03:39.41 | pof | can you explain that a little bit ? |
| 03:40.03 | lkcl | you've built your own kernel: there fore you've built your own modules which match it, yes? |
| 03:40.12 | pof | yes |
| 03:40.20 | pof | i've them on a lot of *ipkg files |
| 03:40.50 | lkcl | okay, so you've just downloaded an image which contains some modules in /lib/modules which have bugger-all to do with the kernel and the module you've just built. |
| 03:41.32 | lkcl | so it should come as no surprise that the kernel boots but cannot find anything like... the touchscreen driver, the usb networking, etc. etc. |
| 03:42.00 | lkcl | it's like you just tried to boot, on your pc, a 2.6.8 kernel but tried to tell it to use 2.6.12 modules. |
| 03:42.07 | lkcl | there's _zero_ chance of that working. |
| 03:42.18 | pof | ok, 'cos those drivers are not on the initrd, you mean? |
| 03:42.32 | lkcl | well, there is that, too :) |
| 03:42.55 | lkcl | you do need to have a matched kernel + initrd_plus_modules + gpe/opie-image_plus_modules. |
| 03:43.21 | pof | ok, i understand |
| 03:44.18 | lkcl | it's fairly straightforward: the modules only work in combination with the kernel for which they were compiled - and that _includes_ the _version_ of the compiler that built them. |
| 03:46.29 | lkcl | if you compile with arm-linux-gcc-3.4.3 and then give that to someone whose modules have been compiled with arm-linux-gcc-3.3.1 then you stand a near-zero chance of things working. |
| 03:46.58 | lkcl | even from sub-revisions of the gcc compiler is pretty risky. |
| 03:47.17 | pof | ok... let's see if i got it right, now when I ssh into my BA i am on initrd, your opie image is on /mnt/. What I have to do is: rm -rf /lib/modules/* ; cd /lib/modules/ ; cp -R /mnt/lib/modules/* . |
| 03:47.19 | lkcl | anyway. |
| 03:47.19 | lkcl | late |
| 03:47.20 | pof | and then reboot |
| 03:47.36 | lkcl | yep. |
| 03:47.51 | lkcl | well... a reboot shouldn't strictly be necessary but it's the easiest option. |
| 03:48.01 | pof | that will change the initrd and in next boot the modules will be ok |
| 03:48.07 | lkcl | yep. |
| 03:48.18 | pof | ok, thanks :) |
| 03:48.20 | lkcl | it's a lot easier to have done that when the sd card is in your pc :) |
| 03:48.42 | lkcl | ok i outta here. |
| 04:01.16 | pof | ok, i did that and didn't solve the problem |
| 04:01.31 | pof | I think that the problem is that your image doesn't have the "oldroot" directory |
| 04:01.44 | pof | and linuxrc does this: |
| 04:01.57 | pof | pivot_root /mnt /mnt/oldroot |
| 04:08.11 | pof | yes, that was it |
| 04:08.21 | pof | I created the "oldroot" directory into your image |
| 04:08.32 | pof | and now I have opie on my BA |
| 04:08.34 | pof | :DDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 04:10.30 | pof | and calibrate was launched at start |
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| 05:15.00 | pof2 | smile :-) |
| 05:15.23 | pof | taking an screenshot of OpieIRC 0.4 on my PDA2k |
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| 05:23.18 | pof | hi rob_w |
| 05:23.28 | pof | lkcl has made two new images: gpe and opie |
| 05:23.48 | pof | http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel/ |
| 05:24.18 | pof | you'll need to create the "oldroot" dir in / if you use the initrd from gnulinux.biz |
| 05:38.47 | rob_w | nice .. but i am fine so far . my image is working and now also the kernel resumes ` s for waht ever reason |
| 05:44.49 | pof | i've tried the opie image, it looks very nice under BA |
| 05:45.14 | pof | it's a pity that opie don't have phone application :( |
| 05:48.48 | rob_w | people have different opinions on opie |
| 05:49.04 | rob_w | do u know how to use git ? |
| 05:49.39 | pof | nope, sorry |
| 05:50.17 | rob_w | np |
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| 11:59.07 | lkcl | pof: there's a stack-load of shit going on at the moment in the dev tree - stick with a monotone thingy from thursday is the advice of the people at #oe. |
| 12:04.44 | rob_w | hey lkcl is awake |
| 12:04.53 | lkcl | yehh, after a fashion :) |
| 12:05.23 | lkcl | haven't had any breakfast yet |
| 12:05.59 | rob_w | same here ,, i will jump directly to junkfood lunch |
| 12:06.24 | rob_w | i am fighint the whole day now with init and friends |
| 12:07.35 | lkcl | he he |
| 12:07.37 | lkcl | oh? |
| 12:09.24 | rob_w | i am not asking my stupid qeustion on purpose |
| 12:11.23 | lkcl | nono |
| 12:11.33 | lkcl | phone... |
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| 12:56.39 | eme | hi room |
| 12:56.45 | iclem | hi |
| 12:58.11 | eme | can anybody tell me how to enable wireles on ba? boar id 6. iwconfig doesnt show any wifi defic? maybe I have to load some module? |
| 12:58.49 | rob_w | not yet supported eme |
| 12:59.12 | eme | aha, thanx. so only usb? |
| 12:59.20 | rob_w | and bluetooth |
| 12:59.31 | eme | sdptool? |
| 12:59.42 | rob_w | pand |
| 13:00.15 | eme | will try it. do I need to modprobe some modules on ba? |
| 13:00.38 | rob_w | bluetooth is startd via gpe .. so normally no |
| 13:02.30 | eme | Thank you. |
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| 14:45.23 | lkcl | okay, am gonna have a go at doing qt development - using qtiax which is a _really_ simple qt3 iax client i found last year. this guy was experimenting with qt3 - i figured it's perfect as a starting point (mostly involving _removing_ things like the volume bar and the config button :) |
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| 15:03.25 | iclem | hi all |
| 15:03.30 | iclem | anyone present ? |
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| 15:18.37 | lkcl | no, iclem - nobody here :) |
| 15:19.03 | iclem | hi lkcl hi rob_w |
| 15:19.04 | lkcl | i am invisible! i am blennnded in. i am at onnnne with my enviroment. |
| 15:19.10 | lkcl | heya iclem. |
| 15:19.18 | iclem | would like to ask |
| 15:19.31 | lkcl | sure. |
| 15:19.57 | iclem | does it bother you if my bot htclogbot saves this chan's logs |
| 15:20.09 | lkcl | _another_ bot? :) |
| 15:20.20 | lkcl | what's wrong with rikers.org's one? |
| 15:20.24 | iclem | yes, a "backup" bot |
| 15:20.32 | iclem | don't know |
| 15:20.33 | lkcl | *shrug* |
| 15:21.00 | lkcl | dun't bother me |
| 15:21.41 | iclem | in you opinion, are searchable logs a good idea or nto ? |
| 15:22.03 | lkcl | yeh, really useful. |
| 15:22.06 | lkcl | esp with google. |
| 15:22.44 | iclem | ok ;) |
| 15:24.08 | rob_w | iclem, i am fine |
| 15:28.11 | rob_w | iclem, and thanks for asking ;-) |
| 15:31.45 | iclem | ok :) as soon as finished, i provide you with the url of the logs. I will try to make something confortable to be downloaded and read on portable device |
| 15:47.08 | pof | iclem: rss for that channel logs would be nice too :) |
| 15:47.29 | iclem | great idea* |
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| 15:55.15 | pof | ps ax |
| 15:55.18 | pof | ups... |
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| 16:08.55 | eme | is there any way to tell with modprobe blueangel_suspend, that backlite go also off? |
| 16:10.09 | eme | suspend works fine if I dont press power button. it goes to suspend after 10mins but baclite is still on. |
| 16:10.29 | eme | baclite=backlite |
| 16:11.35 | pof | eme: have you tried "apm --suspend" in the root comand line ? |
| 16:11.42 | eme | yes |
| 16:11.51 | eme | but cant after switch it on back |
| 16:12.10 | pof | and backlight goes off then, right ? |
| 16:12.16 | eme | right |
| 16:12.25 | pof | then when you press the power button, it should turn on again |
| 16:12.43 | eme | will try now... borad id is 0x6 btw |
| 16:12.52 | pof | oh... mine is 0x5 |
| 16:13.07 | pof | i think there are some bugs with 0x6, but I don't know for sure |
| 16:13.12 | eme | on your works bot not on mine |
| 16:13.26 | pof | probably lkcl or rob_w can help you |
| 16:13.36 | pof | which image are you using? |
| 16:13.40 | eme | thank you anyway |
| 16:13.48 | eme | gpe from wiki hh site |
| 16:14.09 | eme | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 16:14.12 | eme | install form here |
| 16:14.14 | pof | lkcl has made two new images last night |
| 16:14.45 | pof | http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel/gpe-image-blueangel.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 16:14.46 | eme | this one? http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel/ |
| 16:14.54 | pof | http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel/opie-image-blueangel.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 16:15.01 | pof | yes |
| 16:15.11 | pof | one GPE and one OPIE |
| 16:15.23 | pof | are more current than the one in hh wiki |
| 16:15.51 | eme | thanks. will try it. but think for suspend is the kernel issuse |
| 16:42.57 | eme | I try to boot with new gpe-image but boot only to console mode. Is that ok? In /etc/init.d there is no gpe to start? |
| 16:54.57 | pof | eme: create a /oldroot dir |
| 16:55.28 | pof | in the root of the SD partition (the image, not the initrd) |
| 16:58.04 | eme | so on ext3 partition to make /oldroot and tar gpe in oldroot? |
| 16:58.27 | pof | no no |
| 16:58.53 | pof | in the SECOND partition of your SD (the ext3 partition) |
| 16:59.09 | pof | untar gpe-image-blueangel.rootfs.tar.bz2 and when it is untared, create a directory named "oldroot" |
| 16:59.11 | pof | that's it |
| 16:59.25 | eme | ok thanks |
| 17:00.16 | pof | is because you're using the initrd which tries to remount the initrd partition in /oldroot of the gpe image partition |
| 17:05.25 | eme | thanks pof, now is going to boot in gpe. thank you again. |
| 17:05.57 | pof | np :) |
| 17:06.37 | pof | I think the image doesn't have the bluangel_kp (keyboard) enabled by default |
| 17:06.48 | pof | you'll have to modprobe it if you want to use the keyboard |
| 17:07.17 | eme | roger |
| 17:07.22 | pof | or add it into /etc/modules so it gets autloaded at boot |
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| 17:10.32 | *** topic/#htc-blueangel is HTC BlueAngel is still under development ! Feel free to ask and check also -> http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch | http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/ channel chat logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23htc-blueangel/ **upcoming gpe release is in org.openembedded.oz354fam083 dev tree !! http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7937511405.html |
| 17:11.49 | pof | try the suspend / resume stuff in both states: AC and without current |
| 17:12.04 | pof | behaviour might change |
| 17:12.14 | eme | it goes off 5 second after I get login screen |
| 17:12.39 | pof | this is when the blueangel is not plugged in, right ? |
| 17:12.42 | eme | when I switch it on only whit screen appers for few second |
| 17:13.09 | eme | same when is creadlet |
| 17:14.04 | eme | hmmm sorry |
| 17:14.12 | eme | no usb cable in pc damm |
| 17:14.12 | pof | ok... I can't help you anymore |
| 17:14.20 | pof | ah :) |
| 17:14.35 | eme | poor on usb ports.... |
| 17:14.54 | pof | mine is a 0x5 ... and at least with the old gpe image your board id had some bugs, i don't know with this one |
| 17:15.44 | eme | I'm joust unpatient and want to get rid of wince asap |
| 17:17.01 | pof | hehe |
| 17:17.31 | pof | well, linux is not full production-ready |
| 17:17.41 | pof | at least for me... it has some work to do |
| 17:17.46 | pof | wifi is a must :P |
| 17:18.33 | pof | also it would be nice to have a phone app in opie |
| 17:18.42 | pof | but that's easier :) |
| 17:18.48 | eme | I tried today wificompagnion with some crack. gues what happened? |
| 17:19.06 | pof | i don't know what is wificompagnion |
| 17:19.32 | eme | somekind wifi scaner for wince |
| 17:19.43 | pof | ah ok :) |
| 17:20.05 | pof | I used to use "WiFiFoFum" in wince |
| 17:20.29 | eme | If you take crack forom net you will get backdor on your ba. it sed ping to host hey I'm alive..dam.. |
| 17:20.54 | pof | :? |
| 17:22.33 | eme | wificompagnion |
| 17:23.07 | pof | google reveals nothing |
| 17:23.18 | pof | Your search - wificompagnion - did not match any documents. |
| 17:23.52 | pof | btw.. i must go now. I'll be back later |
| 17:24.04 | eme | if you want to have backdor on ba I can send it to you by email |
| 17:24.12 | eme | ;) |
| 17:24.27 | pof | i don't want wince on my BA ;P |
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| 17:35.54 | eme | I get in system log: |
| 17:37.01 | eme | battery voltage (ox8dc) not within (0x8a3,0x8c3) |
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| 18:37.06 | iclem | eme: it would be helpfull to have your max and min value for battery |
| 18:43.16 | rob_w | eme, that battery was quite loaded , right ? |
| 18:51.03 | lkcl | heya rob_w |
| 18:51.16 | lkcl | so you've now got a working BA, yes, with suspend and everything? |
| 18:52.20 | rob_w | well .. lets say it this way , yesterday it magically did it ( with just using that kernel and modules ) i dont dare to say what happens next |
| 18:52.34 | rob_w | but |
| 18:52.36 | lkcl | hurrah. |
| 18:52.40 | lkcl | yerrsss? |
| 18:53.17 | rob_w | i actually have some assumption now what happened |
| 18:53.30 | lkcl | yeeerrrs? |
| 18:55.33 | lkcl | that sentence doesn't quite make sense, rob_w: you made some assumptions? you have some idea of what happened? |
| 18:55.36 | rob_w | i am not that fast |
| 18:55.45 | lkcl | burble burble :) |
| 18:55.47 | rob_w | hang on dude |
| 18:55.50 | lkcl | k. |
| 18:56.33 | lkcl | i managed to fry my brain for a week so i'm in no hurry |
| 18:59.20 | rob_w | fat 16 sucks |
| 18:59.31 | lkcl | yep |
| 18:59.55 | rob_w | so. lkcl you did also work some samba bits , right ?!? |
| 19:00.03 | lkcl | yeh, i did. |
| 19:00.24 | rob_w | or was it all YOUR fault , Sir ? |
| 19:00.28 | lkcl | it's a long and very nasty story about power politics. |
| 19:00.30 | lkcl | yep! |
| 19:00.32 | lkcl | definitely. |
| 19:01.04 | lkcl | am gonna document things on the wiki about himalaya sound. |
| 19:01.23 | rob_w | oh dudes ., now i feel better |
| 19:01.48 | rob_w | i was sad and now i am thinking on linux and open source and i just start smiling |
| 19:02.05 | lkcl | he he :) |
| 19:02.29 | lkcl | yeh, it's really empowering stuff this free software lark, innit? |
| 19:09.56 | lkcl | we need an ASIC3 /proc interface of some kind. |
| 19:14.26 | *** join/#htc-blueangel rob_w-BA (n=trob@p85.212.186.33.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 19:14.38 | rob_w-BA | re ;-) |
| 19:15.04 | lkcl | oh ROB you damn show-off |
| 19:16.32 | *** join/#htc-blueangel france (n=france@151.203.230.49) |
| 19:16.51 | lkcl | heya france. |
| 19:16.59 | rob_w-BA | i am preparing myself for big manuevererrrrd |
| 19:17.03 | france | hey, just looking at your suggestiong |
| 19:17.26 | lkcl | rob_w-BA, go away! rob_w, could you please kick that impostor off the irc channel? :) |
| 19:17.35 | lkcl | what's that, france? |
| 19:17.40 | *** part/#htc-blueangel france (n=france@151.203.230.49) |
| 19:19.15 | lkcl | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaGSM |
| 19:19.43 | lkcl | yes, we know, rob_w-BA. now bugger off and do some useful showing-off :) |
| 19:19.57 | lkcl | was it easy to set up bluetooth? |
| 19:20.05 | lkcl | i have a TDK usb dongle for my laptop |
| 19:26.12 | rob_w | i can ping the host , hcitool con is connected but the host bnep0 is dead and not there |
| 19:26.26 | rob_w | almost |
| 19:27.26 | lkcl | bnep0? burble. news to me. something i should try, then? |
| 19:29.19 | rob_w | ok i need a break ,, i was starring on a 8bpp 6.5 crappy lcd where gpe matchbox-desktop looks like on a trip |
| 19:29.40 | rob_w | ok now stop the time |
| 19:29.52 | lkcl | teehee |
| 19:30.29 | lkcl | rob - ssh in to it and use x-windows forwarding, for _good_ness sake |
| 19:33.44 | rob_w | hey sorry i am so stupid , too stupid tp even use that ba , i just misloaded old modules and my touchscreen is stuck . .. although i wanted to stop the battery usage on sleep .. thehe |
| 19:33.50 | rob_w | bbl |
| 19:36.51 | lkcl | oops... |
| 20:23.59 | cr2 | evening guys. |
| 20:24.24 | iclem | hello cr2 |
| 20:25.30 | cr2 | i have added some info to the asic3 wiki page, and have written the asic2 wiki page. it can help out wallaby friends. |
| 20:28.28 | *** join/#htc-blueangel suma (i=thambi@203.212.228.84) |
| 20:28.40 | suma | i could not update my radio rom |
| 20:28.45 | suma | can anyone please help me |
| 20:28.59 | suma | wiki could not help me with my search |
| 20:29.34 | suma | I get error RADIO ROM UPDATE ERROR |
| 20:29.53 | suma | even when i upload with MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe |
| 20:30.19 | cr2 | you must be a real wizard to update the radio rom from linux ;) |
| 20:30.20 | suma | the rest of the ROM images, uploads fine (nk & ms ) |
| 20:30.38 | suma | I'm uploading from XP |
| 20:30.50 | cr2 | on what phone ? |
| 20:30.56 | suma | XDA IIs |
| 20:31.31 | cr2 | is the radio rom for the same language/etc. ? |
| 20:31.50 | suma | I'm uploading the radio rom which was provided by O2 |
| 20:32.00 | suma | Xda_IIs_Upgrade_v140242 |
| 20:32.51 | lkcl | heya cr2 |
| 20:32.58 | cr2 | well. then you have a problem. there is no other software for the radio flashing... |
| 20:32.58 | lkcl | hi suma. |
| 20:33.04 | suma | hi lkcl |
| 20:33.14 | lkcl | is your phone working, suma? |
| 20:33.14 | suma | what could be the problem ? |
| 20:33.28 | suma | no i could not use the gsm |
| 20:34.04 | lkcl | did it work, ever, at any time? |
| 20:34.29 | suma | it was working with O2 before |
| 20:34.35 | suma | not now |
| 20:34.52 | lkcl | what are you using that is "causing" it to not work? |
| 20:35.19 | lkcl | what is different between the times when it was "working" and when you now believe that it is "not working"? |
| 20:35.30 | suma | i was trying to unlock the device |
| 20:35.42 | lkcl | you were _trying_ to unlock it? ah, deep joy. |
| 20:35.44 | suma | unlocking failed |
| 20:36.07 | lkcl | ah then is it under warranty? |
| 20:36.16 | suma | i upgraded the ROM after that, everything went well except radio_.nbf |
| 20:36.25 | suma | nope no warranty anymore |
| 20:36.29 | lkcl | oops. |
| 20:36.57 | suma | when i check in the Device Information |
| 20:37.06 | lkcl | about the only person i know who will have any degree of knowledge to help you out it's going to be w4xy. |
| 20:37.09 | suma | It says ROM version: 1.40.00 |
| 20:37.29 | suma | rest f the version is empty |
| 20:37.40 | cr2 | it is ok. |
| 20:37.46 | suma | ok what time he will be online ? |
| 20:37.50 | lkcl | this is a question you need to be asking on the forum: all of us here are linux junkies and are porting linux or testing linux. |
| 20:38.11 | lkcl | w4xy hasn't been around for quite some time - he is very busy with his job |
| 20:38.23 | suma | oh ok |
| 20:38.33 | cr2 | lkcl, he can try gomunicator :) |
| 20:38.50 | lkcl | true, cr2 :) |
| 20:38.56 | cr2 | suma, can you switch on the gsm log ? |
| 20:39.22 | suma | how can i do that ? |
| 20:40.06 | cr2 | change some registry keys. its in the wiki, ATDbg and XPanel i think. |
| 20:40.36 | suma | i will search and do the same |
| 20:40.49 | suma | one second .. |
| 20:41.20 | cr2 | lkcl: is you universal locked ? |
| 20:43.32 | suma | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Hacks |
| 20:43.43 | suma | i don't find one for gsm logs |
| 20:43.47 | suma | any help please .. |
| 20:45.57 | lkcl | cr2: uhh.... yes it is. the MDA III isn't. |
| 20:46.14 | lkcl | xda_all_unlock.exe worked on that, although it said that it didn't work. |
| 20:46.22 | cr2 | suma: they are the same as on himalaya. |
| 20:46.41 | lkcl | i ran it several times and despite it saying "failed" it worked. either that or the phone was already unlocked when i got it. |
| 20:46.42 | cr2 | universal can't be unlocked by normal people. |
| 20:46.45 | lkcl | *shrug* |
| 20:46.55 | lkcl | i'm not a normal person |
| 20:47.31 | cr2 | irc is a wrong place to discuss such things :) |
| 20:48.21 | cr2 | hmm. universal is an evil device, btw. |
| 20:48.53 | cr2 | lkcl, was that TDK a bt dongle ? |
| 20:56.41 | lkcl | yes, cr2. |
| 20:56.52 | cr2 | is it working ? |
| 20:57.09 | lkcl | bought it nearly 3 years ago, used it only sparingly because there wasn't a usb-alsa driver |
| 20:57.42 | lkcl | and i _once_ managed to get my laptop connected to my nokia 6310i and pretty much left it at that. |
| 20:58.17 | cr2 | can you run "sdptool records" on ba and hima. i did it for universal and put the data into wiki. |
| 21:01.08 | suma | i could not find the way to enable gsm logs |
| 21:01.27 | suma | http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=71&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=494a2df12b48a1e8fdca8ae0e7bfb752 |
| 21:01.31 | suma | it says an exe file |
| 21:01.40 | suma | there is no such file in windows for me |
| 21:02.32 | suma | i tried uploading radio stack , it says "Updating Radio Stack Please wait ..." |
| 21:02.39 | suma | and thereafter it stops |
| 21:02.50 | suma | not even 1% goes for uploading |
| 21:03.59 | suma | what could be the problem? |
| 21:04.41 | cr2 | it is not an exe. it is a registry key. i can't tell you where it is because my blueangel does not have an lcd. |
| 21:06.00 | suma | i will give a check again ... |
| 21:06.00 | cr2 | wait. HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTCATDbgLog |
| 21:06.36 | cr2 | HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\XPanel |
| 21:08.14 | rob_w | hey ... he was calling us junkey `s ... |
| 21:08.21 | rob_w | Get him boys |
| 21:08.29 | rob_w | ~massacre lkcl |
| 21:08.31 | apt | ACTION sets seeds of discontent and difference among the lkcl; years later two factions have formed; history will take its course |
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| 21:24.08 | *** mode/#htc-blueangel [+o rob_w] by ChanServ |
| 21:30.16 | suma | hi |
| 21:30.30 | suma | what value should i have to set on the registry ? |
| 21:30.38 | suma | sorry got dc |
| 22:06.29 | rob_w | lkcl, so when they look for the guy with the big debts , they will get you |
| 22:11.19 | rob_w | am done , tomorrow is another day, they say |
| 22:18.48 | cr2 | lkcl, are you alive ? |
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| 22:52.13 | JuNuKN | Hello cr2 ... wiki Asic1 and 2 ? In Universal or Hima ? GPIO ? Any news, found out with my log? |
| 22:53.12 | *** join/#htc-blueangel mind_ (n=mind@81.167.1.2) |
| 22:53.22 | mind_ | hey guys ;) |
| 22:53.25 | mind_ | anyone awake? |
| 22:54.15 | mind_ | I was just wondering if there were any preferred mmc card wich I should get in order to get linux up and running on the blueangel..?!? |
| 22:54.29 | jurop88 | ...it seems to be a channel working after one o'clock ;-)... hi everybody! |
| 22:55.02 | mind_ | hi jurop88 ;) |
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| 22:56.20 | mind_ | I'd like to try to get opie running on the blueangel... but first I need to get ahold of a mmc card that will work! Any recommended? Or will whatever work? |
| 22:56.57 | jurop88 | I'm not able to help you! At the moment I'm just a lurker waiting his BA to convert to Linux... |
| 22:58.16 | mind_ | doesent it already? there is a nice gpm version out there I think?!? |
| 22:58.47 | mind_ | even the phone bit is working somewhat if I gather the pieces correctly... |
| 22:59.00 | cr2 | mind: there is gpe and opie for ba. |
| 22:59.10 | cr2 | the phone works with gpe |
| 22:59.24 | mind_ | opie also? cool ;) where do I get ahold of the opie image? |
| 22:59.30 | cr2 | because nobody has written a qt frontend for the phone. |
| 22:59.39 | mind_ | cr2: thats my job ;) |
| 22:59.51 | mind_ | cr2: Im doing that for a assignment at school ;) |
| 23:00.12 | cr2 | i suggest you to take the qpegps and reuse the gui. |
| 23:00.39 | mind_ | cr2: assignment or assignment ;) my final bachelor paper as a matter of fact ;) |
| 23:00.52 | mind_ | I just might ;) |
| 23:00.54 | mind_ | heh.. |
| 23:00.55 | cr2 | great. |
| 23:01.13 | cr2 | it is actually very easy. |
| 23:01.38 | mind_ | but this opie image you speak of... ;) where can one get ahold of such a precious object? |
| 23:01.57 | cr2 | but the linux people are often retarded in the visual design :( i don't mean you :) |
| 23:02.38 | mind_ | cr2: great ;) hehe... Yeah, I hope its not going to be too hard ;) and yeah, I agree... The GUI needs a working design ;) hehe.. |
| 23:02.40 | cr2 | i'm looking in the log. |
| 23:02.48 | mind_ | tnx.. |
| 23:03.46 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.36 | cr2 | it's a test version. don't expect that everything is working. |
| 23:04.50 | cr2 | a bug report will be nice. |
| 23:05.03 | mind_ | I dont ;) and hey, tnx alot! |
| 23:05.26 | mind_ | sure... I'll be working alot with this for the next couple of weeks... |
| 23:08.39 | mind_ | I was also windering about the mmc card on wich to put the image.. will any card work? Im thinking about this one: Kingston MultiMedia Cardplus 1024MB MMC-Card, 7/11MB Write/read |
| 23:09.19 | cr2 | i suggest you to set at+creg=2 and grab/show the cellid info |
| 23:10.14 | cr2 | i have no idea. the SD cards have a MID and OID. everything else is just pure marketing. afaik there is no database of such data. unfortunately. |
| 23:10.14 | mind_ | okok ;) slow down... In not at the at+c command setup yet ;) I need a working opie version for testing first... |
| 23:11.11 | cr2 | just in case, when you are thinking about the design. |
| 23:11.23 | mind_ | ok ;) but Im abit confused about the whole mmc vs. SD thing... Is it a mmc card? or a sd micro card? or what? |
| 23:11.50 | cr2 | mmc card and sd card are different. |
| 23:12.02 | mind_ | what do I need? |
| 23:12.17 | cr2 | miniSD and microSD(transflash) are electrically the same as SD. |
| 23:12.46 | cr2 | you need either MMC or SD or m*SD with the fullsize adapter. |
| 23:13.10 | cr2 | there is also MMC4, i hope it works on ba. |
| 23:13.18 | cr2 | but i have not tested it. |
| 23:13.30 | mind_ | ok ;) so anything goes then... hehe, I guess I'll go with MMC, its the cheapest... heh.. |
| 23:13.33 | mind_ | ok.. |
| 23:13.45 | mind_ | tnx for alot of helpful info ;) |
| 23:13.55 | cr2 | if you can buy mmc these days, not mmc4. |
| 23:14.41 | mind_ | Ill check for that, tnx! And I'll let you know when its time for design spesific suggestions for the app ;) |
| 23:14.56 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:15.23 | cr2 | to beat m$ we need a good visual design :) |
| 23:16.04 | jurop88 | ...and not to be dealt in the TCPA trap :-( |
| 23:16.11 | mind_ | agreed ;) |
| 23:16.41 | lkcl | heya mind - are you still around? |
| 23:17.02 | lkcl | i just started to look at doing qomunicator - porting gomunicator to qt/embedded. |
| 23:17.20 | lkcl | i found "qtiax" as a starting point. |
| 23:18.32 | cr2 | lkcl, i liked the tab widgets of qpegps. and to my big surprise it could be compiled on normal qt. |
| 23:19.06 | cr2 | but i have compiled gomunicator on my notebook, too. it crashed immediately :) |
| 23:20.51 | cr2 | oh. qtiax is for voip?! |
| 23:20.55 | mind_ | oh ;) hehe... well, had a look at gomunicator earlyer.. havent tried to compile it yet, but I'll for sure have a closer look at it... |
| 23:21.44 | mind_ | I like the look of gomunicator, but it needs improvements... |
| 23:24.09 | mind_ | lkcl: could you provide me with a screenshot of qtiax? |
| 23:31.01 | cr2 | look here for the competitor: http://www.kauss.org/Stephan/ziaxphone |
| 23:32.21 | mind_ | ah, nah... we need it a hell of a lot cooler then that dont we? hehe... ;) |
| 23:33.06 | mind_ | damn... I found a great deal on a mmcplus 1gig card... but mmcplus = mmc4 righ? And we don't know if that works..?!? damn... |
| 23:36.19 | cr2 | mmc4 should be backwards compatible. but ymmv. my mmc4 card is not working on an old zaurus. |
| 23:37.10 | mind_ | crap.. but I find alot of websites saying their high speed mmcplus cards are compatible with qtek 9090... |
| 23:37.24 | mind_ | I guess it should work!? |
| 23:38.11 | cr2 | probably, yes. zaurus uses the spi bus access, which is, hmm, slow and weird :) |
| 23:40.28 | mind_ | heh ;) aight! I think I'll give it a go... if doesnt work, at least we'll know ;) |
| 23:41.14 | cr2 | yeah. you are not using it at full speed, but who cares. |
| 23:41.45 | lkcl | qtiax - it's _very_ basic. |
| 23:42.00 | lkcl | it was an experiment by someone who wanted to learn how to do qt3 programming. |
| 23:42.06 | lkcl | as such, it's absolutely perfect. |
| 23:42.22 | cr2 | you can clone the ms phone app ;) |
| 23:42.41 | lkcl | okay: put 12 buttons on a dialog box, one data entry box and 3 surrounding it, one says "dial", the other says "answer", the other "hangup". |
| 23:42.43 | lkcl | that's it :) |
| 23:43.09 | cr2 | phonebook. |
| 23:43.35 | lkcl | yes qtiax is for iax - it uses the same code as iaxclient, except the guy didn't like how much code there was so he cut most of it out. |
| 23:43.58 | cr2 | my phone app on a780 looks like gomunicator, but the sms is handled by another program. |
| 23:45.04 | cr2 | i wanted to upload the screenshots to xanadux.org, but for some reason i'm not in a group ??? |
| 23:46.08 | mind_ | hmz... |
| 23:46.57 | mind_ | has anyone seen the dial applicatino for the new linux based nokia phone? |
| 23:47.23 | mind_ | whats the name again? 700 something?! |
| 23:47.40 | jurop88 | I know the 770 but it is not a phone |
| 23:47.50 | cr2 | 770. look at handhelds.org wiki. |
| 23:48.41 | mind_ | ok, tnx.. but its not a phone? doesent it have a gsm modem? |
| 23:48.54 | jurop88 | no, only wifi & BT |
| 23:49.39 | cr2 | mind_: i can upload the screenshots at jornada820.sf.net, but later i will delete them. |
| 23:50.59 | jurop88 | you'll find a lot of infos on http://nokia770.com |
| 23:51.41 | mind_ | jurop88: tnx ;) but strange... hehe, a nokia phone with no gsm? that just make NO sence ;) |
| 23:51.59 | jurop88 | nokia sells it as a 'new' kind of product... |
| 23:52.00 | mind_ | cr2: sure, that would be great... |
| 23:52.12 | jurop88 | all explained in their website! |
| 23:52.17 | mind_ | jurop88: aha... will, without gsm its worthless to me ;) |
| 23:52.18 | jurop88 | ah, marketing... |
| 23:52.22 | mind_ | heh.. |
| 23:52.31 | mind_ | cr2: let me know when their there? |
| 23:53.47 | cr2 | look at dvc* files at http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/pic/ |
| 23:54.30 | lkcl | it makes a lot of sense when you bear in mind that they've been threatened by the airtime providers "if you ever make a linux phone then all your mobiles will never work on our networks again" |
| 23:54.34 | mind_ | tnx... |
| 23:55.06 | mind_ | lkcl: bastards! |
| 23:55.21 | lkcl | but that's okay because there's a lot of threats being bandied about. |
| 23:55.44 | lkcl | all of them, from the phone manufacturers _and_ from the airtime providers, over who is going to lose out on billions of dollars. |
| 23:56.10 | lkcl | so nobody blinks, and in the meantime we don't get any linux phones, and we don't get combined VoIP+GSM mobiles |
| 23:57.07 | mind_ | stuff like that just make me sad and confused... why not just make something that works?! I can't really relate to it.... |
| 23:57.45 | mind_ | I have to take some finace lectures to complete my degree, and man do I catch up on sleep ;) |
| 23:57.46 | cr2 | the current wifi acx100 needs too much power... |
| 23:57.49 | mind_ | heh... |
| 23:58.09 | mind_ | what chip would you suggest if you where putting together a device? |
| 23:58.25 | mind_ | wlan/gsm etc...?!? |
| 23:58.34 | mind_ | if you have any thought about it.,.? hehe.. |
| 23:59.30 | cr2 | don't know. acx100 is _very_ widely used. imho, there is no combined chip. gsm is an overregulated field. |