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| 00:30.29 | *** topic/#htc-blueangel is HTC BlueAngel is still under development ! Feel free to ask and check also -> http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch | http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/ channel chat logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23htc-blueangel/ **upcoming gpe release is in org.openembedded.oz354fam083 dev tree !! http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7937511405.html |
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| 09:03.59 | JuNuKN | morning cr2, you are always on, too ;o) |
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| 10:03.26 | JuNuKN | can someone be so kind and instruct me, how to use the mmc_driver in Himalaya? I have installed everything on SD card and kernel is still started |
| 10:03.37 | JuNuKN | cr2 ? |
| 10:07.31 | rob_w | JuNuKN, i guess you just need to load it |
| 10:08.01 | rob_w | that s how it should be in the end .. so edit your initrd to modprobe asic3_mmc i guess |
| 10:08.41 | JuNuKN | OK so give me some tips ... I did a modprobe mm_block and a modprobe asic3_mmc |
| 10:09.03 | JuNuKN | mmc_block .... |
| 10:09.38 | rob_w | then check /dev/mmc ? isthere something in ? |
| 10:10.13 | JuNuKN | yes block0 or so .... I have to restart again, because it tried to come to suspend mode and that blocks it... |
| 10:13.35 | JuNuKN | And when I am triying to mount /dev/mmc to any place it reports Block Device required |
| 10:21.32 | JuNuKN | I see, I have to ask later ... |
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| 10:29.09 | rob_w-BA | hi |
| 10:33.46 | rob_w-BA | did it work JuNuKN |
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| 12:14.51 | lkcl | ellooo |
| 12:15.13 | lkcl | am at a friend's house so haven't been around for a day. |
| 12:22.25 | cr2 | hi lkcl |
| 12:36.56 | lkcl | heya cr2. |
| 12:41.34 | cr2 | do you have your universal and the notebook with you ? :) |
| 12:42.01 | lkcl | yeh. |
| 12:42.18 | lkcl | _what_? :) |
| 12:42.57 | cr2 | i'm looking for the next victim :) |
| 12:43.08 | lkcl | mwahahah |
| 12:43.34 | lkcl | what do you want to destroy now?? |
| 12:43.47 | cr2 | your universal, of course. |
| 12:44.52 | cr2 | i have made some changes in the code, but can't test them... |
| 12:45.17 | lkcl | ah, right. ah well you're SOL cos i don't have arm-linux-gcc on my laptop |
| 12:45.59 | cr2 | you should not do it anyway. |
| 12:47.10 | lkcl | ah well i can do a cvs update anyway. |
| 12:51.55 | cr2 | i will find out how to calculate the pixclock and do the commit. |
| 12:54.00 | lkcl | brb.. |
| 13:10.16 | lkcl | i don't see any cvs commits. waah! |
| 13:11.00 | cr2 | wait a bit. i'm answering an important e-mail :) |
| 13:30.43 | lkcl | yaay. installed arm-linux-gcc 3.4 from instructions here: http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian |
| 13:35.35 | cr2 | ok. back to cvs. |
| 13:41.46 | cr2 | lkcl, i also have 4 kernel trees here, and must be careful. |
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| 14:02.51 | JuNuKN | somebody interested with my himalaya tests regarding Linux on SD card and GPW tests ... in short ... the mmc driver seems not be loaded and therefore it switches not to GPE ... maybe I need some instructions !? |
| 14:03.09 | JuNuKN | uups mean gpe test |
| 14:03.29 | iclem | hi Ju |
| 14:03.34 | JuNuKN | hi iclem |
| 14:03.38 | iclem | oops hi JuNuKN |
| 14:03.55 | JuNuKN | it's ok, I know whom you mean |
| 14:04.57 | iclem | check you load both asic3_mmc and mmc_block |
| 14:06.49 | JuNuKN | I tried bot ... first did a modprobe mmc_block without errors and than did a asic3_mmc without errors. Then I tried to lock into /dev/mmc and so one file named block0. Afterwards I tried to mount /dev/mmc //root/mymmc which leads to an error message Block Device Required |
| 14:07.13 | JuNuKN | sorry again modeprobe asic3_mmc of cource |
| 14:08.02 | JuNuKN | ... I see it is spicked with errors ... trie to write with more care next time ... |
| 14:08.17 | iclem | not sure order is correct, what i do : first asic3_mmc, then mmc_block |
| 14:08.27 | iclem | then you should mount your partition |
| 14:08.44 | iclem | ie: mount /dev/mmc/blk0/part2 /root/mymmc |
| 14:09.38 | iclem | you cannot mount /dev/mmc which is not a block device but a directory |
| 14:10.01 | iclem | hope it helps |
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| 14:11.36 | JuNuKN | Ahhhhhhhhh .... OK ....! I will test (and write it down to a paper) ... And are I am correct, that it is not integrated into the kernel via boot_mmc=y !? So I need additionla advice, how to switch over to GPE (Partiotion 2) |
| 14:12.37 | iclem | no "boot_mmc=y" is a trick used in BA initRD linuxrc |
| 14:13.15 | iclem | have you read BA linuxrc ? |
| 14:13.31 | iclem | 1. mount partition |
| 14:13.48 | JuNuKN | Later on the kernel tries to suspend my devise ;o) All went highlighted white and nomore output on LCD .... |
| 14:14.27 | iclem | 2. use "pivot_root path/to/new_root where/to/mount/old_root/ |
| 14:14.40 | JuNuKN | No I haven't read it .... So I will do tonight .... As I see, I have to download it mount it via loop and than access it !? |
| 14:14.50 | iclem | yes you should kill ipaq-sleep, and rename apm to apm.disabled |
| 14:15.38 | iclem | yes, just like another initrd |
| 14:17.27 | JuNuKN | OK ... I understand ... thanks ! I will try and report. With the pivot_root I have switched over to GPE ? |
| 14:17.44 | JuNuKN | Or do I need some startX ? |
| 14:17.53 | iclem | you need to launch init |
| 14:18.19 | iclem | bast to look at how it's done in BA's linuxrc |
| 14:18.29 | iclem | got to go |
| 14:18.35 | iclem | see you later |
| 14:18.53 | JuNuKN | Maybe my wife gives me half an hour from now, so I can test it now ... because the data is still not restored |
| 14:19.12 | JuNuKN | Thanks again ... I will try tonight |
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| 14:20.52 | lkcl | am i back? |
| 14:21.16 | JuNuKN | yes you atre# |
| 14:21.20 | lkcl | ahh, good. |
| 14:21.26 | lkcl | heya JuNuKN |
| 14:21.41 | lkcl | how did you get on with your new image? |
| 14:21.51 | JuNuKN | heya lkcl ... tahnks again for your long night with me ;o) |
| 14:22.06 | lkcl | ooo, no problem JuNuKN :) |
| 14:22.27 | lkcl | now all we gotta do is get rob_w working, too. |
| 14:23.07 | JuNuKN | It doesn't load automatically the mmc_driver and I tried to moint wrong /dev/mmc ... got advice to mount /dev/mmc/block0/part2 ... We will see |
| 14:23.55 | lkcl | it _should_ do - ah, have you got "boot_mmc=y" in your startup.txt line? |
| 14:24.18 | lkcl | you need to copy pretty much exactly the same kernel boot parameters line as you would have for a blueangel. |
| 14:24.36 | lkcl | you don't want the ones that do NFS booting etc. |
| 14:24.46 | lkcl | that you've been using up till now. |
| 14:25.18 | lkcl | if you look in the /linuxrc file in the initial ramdisk, you will find that there's a test: |
| 14:25.28 | lkcl | if [ $boot_mmc=="y" ] then .... |
| 14:25.51 | lkcl | and so you have to set that variable in the haret.exe startup.txt file, in the kernel boot params line. |
| 14:25.53 | lkcl | otherwise |
| 14:25.53 | lkcl | duh |
| 14:26.00 | lkcl | it won't boot from the mmc card |
| 14:26.01 | lkcl | duh. |
| 14:27.54 | lkcl | ~botmail for rob_w allo rob, grab http://hands.com/~lkcl/xanadux.modules.tgz and unpack it into the SD card, along with the latest gpe-image i just built, unpack that and grab its /boot/zImage-2.6.12 as your kernel. |
| 14:30.19 | cr2 | lkcl: i have enabled debug in the pxafb, can you build and test the kernel ? the correct pixclock is still missing, but others somehow get away with that. |
| 14:32.25 | lkcl | ack. |
| 14:36.16 | JuNuKN | ... Ok I am back and do a new test with homa .... Yes I have tnearly the same startup.txt as BA only added the console tty0 and ttyS1 |
| 14:37.13 | cr2 | lkcl: can you 'pd' the 4K page at 0x08000000 ? i suspect wifi is there. and 0x0a000000. |
| 14:40.15 | lkcl | you need exactly the same startup.txt as for BA except a different MTYPE, that's all. |
| 14:40.43 | lkcl | am trying to concentrate on what i am supposed to be here, doing, cr2 :) |
| 14:40.59 | lkcl | pd is a bit too much effort right now :) |
| 14:41.55 | JuNuKN | OK I will try ... at the moment my biggest problem is, that I get no Seriell-Output on port! But I changed nothing ... only, that the T-Mobile applications are no longer installed (no customizing) |
| 14:43.23 | cr2 | JuNuKN: when i did not install the t-mob customizations, there was no bluetooth here. maybe the same problem. |
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| 14:48.51 | cr2 | JuNuKN: if your wince is running, can you make some 'pd 0x0c800000 0x1000' snapshots while your sdio wifi is running ? |
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| 14:54.19 | JuNuKN | ... Sorry was an testing ... with the customizing thing from T-Mobile the seriall port works again :o) .... Seems the reason! |
| 14:55.14 | JuNuKN | And now It suspends again, because I did some mounting tests ... which said invalid argument ... I have to reinstall everything ... than I can do some tests for you with wifi |
| 14:56.25 | cr2 | install wince5. it will trash your DoC, but no reinstalls anymore. |
| 15:00.23 | JuNuKN | What should I do first ? Try to mount the sd card and switch to GPE or restore from backup and do a pd xxx ... Please explain how the last must be done!? |
| 15:01.07 | cr2 | do you have wince running now ? |
| 15:01.09 | lkcl | yep, you should be getting output on the screen, instead. |
| 15:01.55 | JuNuKN | WinCE is running, but no Wifi-Driver installed at the moment ... you know? Himalaya ! |
| 15:02.07 | JuNuKN | lkcl do you mean me ? |
| 15:05.55 | JuNuKN | No answer ! No need on me ? |
| 15:06.42 | cr2 | do something :) |
| 15:07.15 | JuNuKN | OK what ? Whats that pd command ... how to execute ? |
| 15:07.38 | cr2 | run haret and log the session. |
| 15:08.07 | JuNuKN | OK, so I have to reinstall Wifi driver first ... maybe it goes as guest ... |
| 15:08.29 | cr2 | type "pd 0x0c800000 0x1000", 5 - 6times |
| 15:08.43 | cr2 | exit |
| 15:08.47 | cr2 | send me the log. |
| 15:08.52 | cr2 | that's all. |
| 15:10.00 | JuNuKN | With wifi putty telnet connection over wifi ... I will do ... the driver is installed now ... |
| 15:10.24 | cr2 | ok. great. |
| 15:16.48 | JuNuKN | OK ... no I am starting to test ... I forgot the wifi key ;o) |
| 15:21.01 | JuNuKN | OK it is send via PM |
| 15:24.08 | lkcl | tried that latest kernel - _splat_ |
| 15:24.24 | lkcl | _what_ did i do right??? |
| 15:28.03 | JuNuKN | cr2 ... if that is all for the moment, I will retry to mount my gpe image ;o) |
| 15:33.05 | cr2 | JuNuKN: thanks. i'll look at the data. |
| 15:33.06 | JuNuKN | Back to the familie for an coffee will met you later |
| 15:33.56 | cr2 | lkcl: what is your IR status ? |
| 15:43.55 | lkcl | irstatus : bolloxed :) |
| 15:44.29 | lkcl | i need an IR usb dongle of some kind. ar$e. |
| 15:49.14 | JuNuKN | cr2 the requested logs are still in the outbox of me ... |
| 15:55.09 | cr2 | JuNuKN: i forgot that hima addresses are double of ba/universal. there should be 0x2000 at the end of "pd". sorry. |
| 15:55.44 | cr2 | lkcl: i have such a dongle, but it has no drivers. BA is your best bet. |
| 15:58.07 | JuNuKN | OK, just fast enought ... still got no seriell console on hima ... so I do the second log for you ... |
| 16:04.22 | pof | lkcl: i got power management working yesterday! |
| 16:04.56 | JuNuKN | cr2 the next log is in the outbox |
| 16:08.12 | cr2 | JuNuKN: ok. looking at the logs. |
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| 16:09.34 | tiztelesup | hi |
| 16:10.17 | JuNuKN | hi |
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| 16:12.40 | tiztelesup | hi, is there anyone that could answer me a question about HTC Wallaby, thanks! |
| 16:13.14 | cr2 | hi tiztelesup |
| 16:13.27 | cr2 | wallaby is an old beast :) |
| 16:13.45 | cr2 | what is your question ? |
| 16:14.03 | tiztelesup | I've run linux on it and the screen goes blank |
| 16:14.27 | tiztelesup | it is no problem as I can continue working on it by usb serial |
| 16:14.37 | tiztelesup | but I'd be nice to light it back... |
| 16:14.54 | cr2 | which linux kernel ? |
| 16:18.01 | tiztelesup | a 2.6 something downloaded from the CVS at noncvs@cvs.handhelds.org |
| 16:18.49 | cr2 | hmm. i will look which fb driver is used there. |
| 16:18.52 | tiztelesup | I compile it with an arm cross compiler and use the initrd image from handhelds.org |
| 16:21.35 | lkcl | hey pof - ha cool, well done. |
| 16:21.46 | pof | :) |
| 16:21.56 | lkcl | pof: you have the board id 0x5, don't you? |
| 16:22.01 | pof | yes |
| 16:22.21 | lkcl | okay - can you possibly make your stuff available so that rob_w can try it out? |
| 16:22.41 | pof | now i am following the "GettingStarted" steps on OE... but I get an error when I try to use bitbake, no matter which package |
| 16:22.47 | tiztelesup | it is the CONFIG_FB_SA1100 |
| 16:22.52 | lkcl | do this: ~botmail for rob_w hello rob i have a board id 0x5 and blah blah... |
| 16:22.57 | cr2 | ok. wallaby has sa1100fb |
| 16:23.12 | pof | lkcl: I did it with your patches |
| 16:23.53 | lkcl | excellent. ... uhmmm... _what_ patches are we talking about? oh god - you did a bitbake compile *shudder* |
| 16:24.32 | pof | yes, but now it doesn't work |
| 16:24.45 | pof | can you look at the error I get for a while? I have no clue on what is it |
| 16:24.48 | cr2 | tiztelesup: must be some gpio issue. |
| 16:24.48 | lkcl | yes, that's very common for bitbake stuff / monotone |
| 16:24.50 | lkcl | sure. |
| 16:24.58 | pof | http://pof.eslack.org/~pof/tmp/bitbake-error.txt |
| 16:26.25 | lkcl | why are you doing bitbake nano? |
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| 16:26.45 | lkcl | hello rob. |
| 16:26.51 | pof | because is the "example" on the GetingStarted, but I get the same error with every bibbake <something> i do |
| 16:26.53 | rob_w | hey all |
| 16:27.09 | rob_w | pof, whats the problem |
| 16:27.21 | tiztelesup | cr2: I dont know, but the first time i run linux it works fine for some time and then the screen stops working, eventualy it works again... |
| 16:27.22 | pof | rob_w: http://pof.eslack.org/~pof/tmp/bitbake-error.txt |
| 16:27.22 | JuNuKN | monotone version has changed the last days, as i read correct in the news-messages |
| 16:27.26 | lkcl | pof has managed (once) to do a bitbake gpe-image, enough to get a board 0x5 blueangel to work |
| 16:27.42 | tiztelesup | cr2: I've read that it could be some watchdog, any idea ? |
| 16:27.57 | cr2 | dump the registers |
| 16:28.00 | rob_w | my image works also nice ( beside this minor resume something :-) |
| 16:28.35 | lkcl | that's what pof has working, rob. |
| 16:28.37 | cr2 | tiztelesup: there is a haret version for sa1100. |
| 16:28.44 | rob_w | lkcl, you fixed the resume thing ?!?!?!?!?! |
| 16:29.03 | lkcl | no, rob - you're the only one who has a non-working board id 0x5 system. |
| 16:29.22 | lkcl | there is no "fix" |
| 16:29.22 | rob_w | oh come on |
| 16:29.25 | pof | rob_w: do you want the image, i can put it on the web for you to download |
| 16:29.42 | rob_w | pof, that looks like a typo in local.conf or some bb file |
| 16:29.51 | pof | apm --suspend works, and then it resumes fine when you press the power button |
| 16:30.08 | tiztelesup | cr2: How do I dump the registers ? |
| 16:30.11 | rob_w | hmm ,, i am the only one without camera |
| 16:30.28 | pof | rob_w: I took lkcl's local.conf file and just changed the paths |
| 16:31.36 | cr2 | tiztelesup: do you know how to use haret ? |
| 16:31.39 | rob_w | pof double check again ,, i had thos errors also and it was always me or outdated stuff |
| 16:31.54 | tiztelesup | cr2: no, I was having a look at it |
| 16:32.12 | tiztelesup | cr2: should I try it ? |
| 16:32.32 | cr2 | you need a sapecial version. |
| 16:32.41 | lkcl | foood. |
| 16:33.10 | tiztelesup | where can I get it ? |
| 16:33.53 | cr2 | wait 1 sec. |
| 16:35.48 | rob_w | pof, ok i will give lkcl image a try ... again |
| 16:36.05 | cr2 | http://jornada820.sf.net/files/old/oleg/haret820-20050228.tar.gz |
| 16:36.44 | cr2 | not everything is working, but reading memory works. you can't boot linux with it (imho) |
| 16:37.38 | rob_w | lkcl, pof what image is "your latest " that opie from the 6th ? |
| 16:39.21 | tiztelesup | cr2: So is it better to continue using linexec ? at least i can boot linux with it... |
| 16:40.16 | pof | rob_w: the opie image from lkcl has working apm, but I can't start opie |
| 16:40.38 | pof | nor the calibrate stuff |
| 16:41.02 | lkcl | yeh, don't use the opie one i haven't worked on it enough yet. /usr/bin/calibrate should be on it and you might even be able to run it manually |
| 16:43.06 | JuNuKN | titztelesup Yes you can start linux with linexec, but you cannot examine, which pins WinCE uses on your hardware to switch Background Light and which memory is used for the LCD output. Therefore HaRET is designed to analyse running WinCE and Hardware GPIOs General Prozessor IO Pins) |
| 16:45.22 | tiztelesup | cr2: The link doesn't work, but it doesn't seem usable anyway http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/jornada820/2005-February/000641.html |
| 16:45.54 | tiztelesup | ok |
| 16:46.19 | tiztelesup | JuNuKN: The problem is that winCE doesn't turn the screen on |
| 16:47.06 | JuNuKN | Yes I know ... I have also tested it with my Wallaby ... but sold it meanwhile. I tried the Uploaded stuff out of the wiki and also the screen was left black ... |
| 16:47.07 | tiztelesup | The screen is now shutdown, I upload files and try stuff trough ActiveSync |
| 16:47.26 | tiztelesup | It eventually works again |
| 16:47.34 | tiztelesup | but I don't know how this happens |
| 16:51.32 | tiztelesup | Problem solved... hehe |
| 16:51.49 | tiztelesup | I was pushing the wrong reset button, I didn't know it had 2 reset buttons |
| 16:52.00 | tiztelesup | Thanks anyway! |
| 16:53.55 | lkcl | *LOL* :) he he |
| 16:56.38 | cr2 | lkcl, do you know how to link the "raw" code, developed, let's say, in assembler ? |
| 16:56.58 | lkcl | oo. ah. now you're asking. |
| 16:57.31 | cr2 | i don't need, ELF, crt.o and such weird stuff :) |
| 16:57.41 | lkcl | if it's a .S file, you can compile it arm-linux-gcc thingy.S -o thingy.o |
| 16:57.59 | cr2 | and get a linux ELF binary |
| 16:58.12 | lkcl | if you mean _binary_, then run it through a disassembler first. |
| 16:58.38 | lkcl | good luck, rob :) |
| 16:59.03 | cr2 | hmm. there must be some flags to ld(1). i'll read the docs. |
| 16:59.56 | JuNuKN | Hello everybody ... I am logged in again into Himalaya and tried to mount the sd card ... sais invalid argument can someone help? Maybe cr2 ? |
| 17:00.28 | lkcl | okay, you need asic3_mmc |
| 17:00.31 | lkcl | and mmc_block |
| 17:00.44 | JuNuKN | OK I have modprobe both |
| 17:00.46 | lkcl | just like it says in the initrd's /linuxrc file. |
| 17:00.54 | lkcl | then ls /dev/mmc |
| 17:01.01 | lkcl | and you should see some files in there. |
| 17:01.37 | JuNuKN | .. till now the seriell console was my biggest problem ;o) I still have to read sorry .... And I didn't find the ipaq-sleep to kill ! |
| 17:01.41 | rob_w | duh ... again suspend with having the modules loaded .. arrgh |
| 17:01.50 | lkcl | if you _haven't_ then it's probably *embarrassed* cos i haven't uploaded the right config for the himalaya, for you, to the K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-him0 cvs tree... |
| 17:01.59 | lkcl | *grin* @ rob oops :) |
| 17:02.16 | lkcl | just do killall ipaq-sleep, JuNuKN |
| 17:02.23 | lkcl | or ps ax | grep ipaq |
| 17:02.43 | cr2 | lkcl: ld -b binary |
| 17:02.56 | JuNuKN | says no process killed |
| 17:04.25 | JuNuKN | 970 root 420 S grep ipaq |
| 17:04.53 | lkcl | cr2: urr, _yukk_ |
| 17:05.11 | lkcl | okay so what's in /dev/mmc? anything? |
| 17:05.20 | rob_w | grrr png support is broken on my mips image |
| 17:05.26 | JuNuKN | yes blk0 |
| 17:05.30 | lkcl | _great_ |
| 17:05.39 | JuNuKN | cd blk0 |
| 17:06.10 | cr2 | but no partition ? |
| 17:06.11 | JuNuKN | in it there are three files disc part1 and part2 |
| 17:06.22 | lkcl | that's it! |
| 17:06.26 | lkcl | it's working. |
| 17:06.44 | JuNuKN | so explain me ho to list the things inside part2 |
| 17:06.49 | lkcl | okay, now take a look at /linuxrc |
| 17:07.04 | JuNuKN | Can i do it on the hima ? |
| 17:07.13 | lkcl | and it lists the other commands you need to do |
| 17:07.16 | lkcl | yes of course. |
| 17:07.24 | JuNuKN | cd / |
| 17:07.25 | JuNuKN | ls |
| 17:07.38 | lkcl | yep - more /linuxrc |
| 17:07.57 | lkcl | right at the top there is an if [ $boot_mmc = "y" ] then |
| 17:08.30 | lkcl | which is what you _should_ have set in the startup.txt on the set CMDLINE="...... boot_mmc=y ...." |
| 17:08.36 | JuNuKN | which viewer is included in the image ? mc doesn't work and vi I am not familar with and need instructions |
| 17:09.13 | lkcl | see your irc console, five lines above this one, to answer that question, JuNuKN |
| 17:09.44 | rob_w | anybody a idea what gpe uses to display png `s |
| 17:10.10 | JuNuKN | :o)))) oh sorry now I am inside vi and don't no how to exit ;0) |
| 17:10.31 | lkcl | type ":q!" without the quotes |
| 17:10.53 | lkcl | and search google for a vi tutorial - you are now officially a linux user :) |
| 17:10.57 | JuNuKN | OK now i try with more ... |
| 17:11.23 | lkcl | so you might as well get to know about vi before some idiot suggests you learn emacs :) |
| 17:12.15 | lkcl | no clue, rob. is there a web browser (there must be a web browser) |
| 17:13.27 | cr2 | real hackers use /bin/cat :) |
| 17:13.28 | lkcl | okay. |
| 17:13.31 | lkcl | he he |
| 17:13.45 | lkcl | so, JuNuKN - now you notice the two modprobes in /linuxrc, right? |
| 17:13.53 | lkcl | the ones that say modprobe asic3_mmc |
| 17:13.59 | lkcl | etc.? |
| 17:14.02 | lkcl | what's the next line? |
| 17:14.35 | lkcl | mount /dev/mmc/blk0/part2 /mnt && pivot_root /mnt |
| 17:14.35 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.57 | lkcl | i see a waitkey followed by the mount i just cut/paste, above. |
| 17:15.01 | JuNuKN | I have to reread the complete linuxrc because I didn't fount the mmc_boot part with the first run ... one moment |
| 17:15.17 | lkcl | it's right at the top, on the first page. |
| 17:15.27 | cr2 | i have seen konqueror in the opie image. |
| 17:15.35 | lkcl | lines 10-12 approx |
| 17:16.05 | lkcl | if it's not there, then where on _earth_ did you get the original initrd from? |
| 17:16.35 | lkcl | did you download the blueangel initrd when you put the modules in it (like cr2 instructed you on)? |
| 17:16.45 | lkcl | or did you use your _old_ himalaya initrd? |
| 17:17.17 | lkcl | because you _really_ need to start from the blueangel one, not the older himalaya one. |
| 17:17.28 | JuNuKN | lkcl sorry, - you may think that I am stupid, but there is no if [$boot_mmc inside this file ! |
| 17:17.50 | lkcl | no, i don't believe you to be stupid - you're just using an older initrd. |
| 17:18.22 | JuNuKN | As I explained in that night from llange |
| 17:18.25 | cr2 | lkcl: we should remove old initrd's where we can. |
| 17:18.30 | lkcl | download the blueangel initrd, then redo the same procedure you did the other day |
| 17:18.40 | lkcl | cr2: yeh. |
| 17:19.13 | lkcl | well, JuNuKN seems to be happy to go through these things and he does actually write good docs, so what the heck :) |
| 17:20.20 | cr2 | well. the 2.6.3 initrd for himalaya is on the xda-dev wiki page. |
| 17:21.18 | cr2 | and the 2.6.12 is a link to himalaya.lange.nom.fr |
| 17:24.23 | pof | grrr! i've updated monotone, triple-checked the local.conf file and I'm still getting that ugly python error when I use bitbake |
| 17:24.45 | JuNuKN | Yes and that was the one I took the 2.6.12 because it was reported to be the one with the most features ... and because noone answered my question this night, whether this is a initrd, which I can use. So I started with it ... By the lack of a bot I cannot show you again in the logfiles ... so it is really not my fault! Don't forget I am a linux starter, but I am willing to learn. I will do the |
| 17:24.46 | JuNuKN | steps again and doc it to allow others more easily to follow our way to a working image. |
| 17:25.53 | rob_w | ehhhhh it works ?!? |
| 17:26.11 | cr2 | lkcl: can you add building the kernel and initrd to the oe magic ? |
| 17:26.34 | JuNuKN | But maybe someone other with a hima is faster than me and creates an Image to download like for ba. |
| 17:27.40 | JuNuKN | With the instructions to install on Hima and working with GPE. Otherwise I will try ... thats the reason of my work. |
| 17:28.00 | rob_w | this is fantastic ... it does work with that kernel .. how s that possible |
| 17:28.10 | cr2 | it should be done to get the sync versions, and avoid the version incompatibility hell. |
| 17:33.30 | lkcl | yaay! rob! hurrah :) |
| 17:33.35 | lkcl | okay, so you happy now??? |
| 17:33.45 | JuNuKN | lkcl maybe one last answer for my current initrd ? When I am trying a mount /dev/mmc/blk0/part2 /mnt/jn I always get a invalid argument error message! The dir /mnt/jn exists! May it depend on the wrong rest of stuff in the initrd? ... I wan't to see the dir listing of my mmc card partition2 ! |
| 17:33.58 | lkcl | kernel's already there |
| 17:34.18 | lkcl | ah, JuNuKN - you _might_ not have ext2 built in to your kernel. |
| 17:34.35 | lkcl | check that the kernel you're building has CONFIG_EXT2=y and all that stuff. |
| 17:34.42 | JuNuKN | It doesnt also not work for disc and for part1 ! |
| 17:34.49 | lkcl | CONFIG_FS_EXT2=y |
| 17:34.55 | lkcl | and CONFIG_FS_FAT=y |
| 17:35.00 | lkcl | or try modprobe ext2 |
| 17:35.04 | lkcl | and modprobe vfat |
| 17:35.15 | lkcl | at least try that first. |
| 17:35.26 | JuNuKN | module ext2 not found! |
| 17:35.43 | lkcl | checking of course in your config (make menuconfig or more linux-2.6-xda/.config) |
| 17:36.17 | lkcl | yeh that will come up even if you have ext2 compiled into the kernel, so you _must_ check the kernel config. |
| 17:36.29 | lkcl | also i'd suggest you add ext3 as well CONFIG_FS_EXT3 |
| 17:36.32 | lkcl | okay? |
| 17:36.34 | lkcl | gotta run - food. |
| 17:36.35 | JuNuKN | modprobe vfat works, but part1 reports also invalid argument |
| 17:37.50 | JuNuKN | OK I will do ... thanks ... maybe someone should update the default_config something for hima ... because I used as instructed! |
| 17:39.55 | lkcl | yeh i have it at home. |
| 17:44.46 | JuNuKN | I f you answered me, so please check it into cvs |
| 17:57.47 | tiztelesup | cr2: sorry, I've been trying to boot linux with haret and wallaby and it gives me this error : FATAL: Cannot allocate a contiguous physical memory area! |
| 17:57.55 | tiztelesup | cr2: any idea ? Thanks! |
| 17:58.34 | cr2 | i have told you it does not boot linux. |
| 17:58.36 | tiztelesup | cr2: I'm using haret 0.3.6 |
| 17:58.52 | tiztelesup | ok |
| 17:59.00 | cr2 | for sa1100 ? |
| 17:59.53 | tiztelesup | no |
| 18:00.05 | tiztelesup | regular haret |
| 18:00.28 | cr2 | it is a different processor, with different memory layout abd registers. |
| 18:01.19 | cr2 | haret 0.3.6 is absolutely useless on wallaby. |
| 18:03.18 | tiztelesup | ok |
| 18:03.19 | tiztelesup | .. |
| 18:03.24 | tiztelesup | it's a pitty |
| 18:18.02 | JuNuKN | lkcl I have checked my config file ... ext2 was enabled ext3 wasn't ... I switched both on for he next try ... but maybe that wasn't the fault because ext3 can be mounted as ext2 or are I am wrong. Nevertheless I a silent from now until I got all steps reproduced and documented |
| 18:18.42 | pof | I have bitbake working :D |
| 18:18.51 | pof | i svn updated it and it works now :DDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 19:13.44 | pof | lkcl: your http://hands.com/~lkcl/blueangel/latest.org.openembedded.bitbake.rubbish.patch is to be applied into .dev or into .oz354fam083 ? |
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| 19:39.06 | lkcl | i haven't a clue, pof |
| 19:40.13 | lkcl | i just... applied it to individual bitbakes. you _should_ be updating against {dev,oz354fam03,somethingboxwhatever} |
| 19:45.53 | pof | and do you know the steps to add support of acx100 (from the xanadux CVS) into my kernel? |
| 19:46.09 | lkcl | urk :) |
| 19:46.13 | lkcl | is it just a module? |
| 19:46.28 | pof | I don't know, i see it is not in the gpe image |
| 19:46.32 | lkcl | is it the name of a module that already exists in the xanadux cvs, under the tag you're expecting? |
| 19:46.35 | lkcl | 1 mo... |
| 19:46.44 | pof | there are some instructions here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelProgress |
| 19:47.16 | lkcl | ack |
| 19:52.11 | lkcl | http://www.ivor.it/wireless/acx.html |
| 19:53.34 | lkcl | http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:53.43 | cr2 | it is an outdated page. |
| 19:55.25 | cr2 | there is a pci driver that needs to be adapted to the (non-pci) memory-mapped model. |
| 19:55.55 | lkcl | hmmm |
| 19:56.04 | lkcl | okay. |
| 19:56.55 | cr2 | the driver in the xanadux cvs is a hack based on an old code, that does not really work. |
| 19:59.55 | cr2 | now i have a (working) idea how to boot linux on universal without any help from wince of haret. but the main part of this approach needs to be merged into haret and tested first. |
| 20:00.37 | cr2 | lkcl, when do you expect to make IR running ? |
| 20:01.10 | lkcl | burble. couple of days. |
| 20:01.27 | lkcl | okay. |
| 20:01.41 | lkcl | basically, pof, you're better off creating a patch against the cvs. |
| 20:02.03 | rob_w | oh man ,, how is it going to you guys |
| 20:02.25 | lkcl | then, putting it as a SRC_URI_blueangel="file://acx100.patch;patch=1" line in packages/linux/xanadux_ba.bb |
| 20:02.41 | lkcl | just like there is in e.g. packages/tslib/tslib_cvs.bb |
| 20:03.13 | lkcl | and then the cvs will get downloaded, your patch applied, and voila. |
| 20:04.04 | lkcl | remember to add, also, into your copy of conf/machines/blueangel.conf, modules_autoload="acx100" and also on the KERNEL_26_MODULES line just above it, also put acx100 into the list of kernel modules being built. |
| 20:04.20 | lkcl | it's pretty straightforward, if a bit of an arse. |
| 20:04.49 | cr2 | lkcl, how is the inird built ? |
| 20:05.13 | pof | ok, let's see what I can do, thanks for your help :) |
| 20:07.39 | lkcl | what initrd build? :) i just got back from the pub after some food and a peppermint tea :) |
| 20:08.12 | cr2 | how is it built ? is it a part of oe build ? |
| 20:10.42 | lkcl | i don't know - one just "appears" in /boot/ which i've never used. |
| 20:10.49 | lkcl | or even looked at |
| 20:12.04 | cr2 | i think it is a good idea to build an initrd simultaneously with the kernel. for many reasons. |
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| 20:28.20 | pof | with a clean oe dev tree, if i do "bitbake gpe-image" will it be suitable for BA? |
| 20:28.58 | pof | cos I'm getting a lot of .rej files if I apply latest.org.openembedded.bitbake.rubbish.patch.... |
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| 20:48.40 | immolo | heya people |
| 20:51.09 | lkcl | heya immolo |
| 20:51.23 | lkcl | no, pof, it's not. |
| 20:51.40 | lkcl | you _will_ need the oz354fam083 stuff as well. |
| 20:51.53 | lkcl | it may also be the case that a number of the patches will have already been applied. |
| 20:52.51 | lkcl | use this: http://hands.com/~lkcl/monotone.openembedded.get.sh |
| 20:53.04 | lkcl | to update your thingy. |
| 20:56.15 | lkcl | okay, am off home / offline for a couple of hours. later folks. |
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| 23:35.04 | usama | Hi all. Is it possible to downgrade the BlueAngel to windows CE, after upgrading it to linux ? |
| 23:36.01 | usama | Is there a good instalation instructions beside those on http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 23:40.55 | pof | usama: linux boots from SD, you don't loose the WinCE in ROM |
| 23:41.13 | pof | you boot it from haret.exe which is like the old loadlin.exe |
| 23:41.47 | pof | so, after booting linux, just hard reset and your blueangel will come up with the default WinCE rom |
| 23:42.26 | pof | look at the channel topic for a prebuild gpe-image, initrd and kernel for BA |
| 23:42.44 | pof | it's the url in gnulinux.biz |
| 23:43.12 | pof | just download those files and put them in the SD as said in the wiki (2 partitions, 1ext3 and 1 fat, blablabla...) |
| 23:47.48 | usama | Thanks pof, Just to make sure, Should I format and create the partitions using a Linux machine conected to the BA using the USB, or should it be done in the BA ? |
| 23:48.17 | pof | usama: no, you should do it in a linux machine with an SD card reader |
| 23:48.38 | usama | Can I synchronize the linux with outlook contacts/calemdar? |
| 23:48.49 | pof | if you don't have linux you can use a knoppix/ubuntu or similar... most SD card readers are supported with usb mass storage |
| 23:49.14 | pof | i guess... i've never tried with outlook |
| 23:49.22 | pof | it works with evolution... :) |
| 23:49.44 | usama | In my work we use outlook, this is why I'm asking |
| 23:50.21 | pof | i'm sorry, but i've never tryied to sync it with outlook... i can't help with that |
| 23:51.17 | usama | AnyWay, I must have SD reader, right? |
| 23:51.38 | pof | yes, you need it to make the partitions on the SD and format them |