| 00:16.49 | cp15 | Good night, will go to bed now |
| 01:52.26 | pH5 | good night |
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| 03:30.49 | oxi | hi |
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| 09:36.11 | eme | hi all |
| 09:36.36 | eme | anybody here to know something abt linux on BlueAngel? |
| 09:37.06 | eme | I have installed it and have some questions abt. |
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| 09:55.05 | cp15 | Good morning |
| 10:00.57 | eme | gm |
| 10:02.10 | eme | cp15 you have compiled kernel and other things for BlueAngel? |
| 10:03.14 | cp15 | Take a look at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel Section Installation Instructions |
| 10:03.25 | cp15 | At least if you have a card reader connected to a linux box |
| 10:03.44 | eme | tks |
| 10:03.52 | eme | i have already installed it |
| 10:04.00 | eme | but have question or two |
| 10:04.49 | eme | in shor: should telephone ring or not? and i have in logs df: /dev/.static/dev: Premision denied |
| 10:04.57 | eme | should I run it like user or root |
| 10:05.20 | eme | an also big problem with usbnet on kernel2.6 on pc side |
| 10:06.34 | eme | and cpu is no 100% load, suspend, power off not working. Is thih normal? |
| 10:11.07 | cp15 | 1. The telephone should ring, but you have to install a ringtone. See http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Gomunicator |
| 10:11.36 | cp15 | 2. I have also seen the df error messages but haven't looked into it further |
| 10:12.06 | cp15 | 3. It should work with a non privileged user. If not, there is a bug somewhere |
| 10:12.19 | cp15 | 4. What is your usbnet problem? |
| 10:12.48 | cp15 | 5. What do you mean with cpu is no 100% load? |
| 10:13.03 | eme | cpu is on 100% load |
| 10:13.18 | cp15 | 6. Real suspend is in the works. Stay tuned |
| 10:13.19 | eme | app gpe-conf tak 94% of cpu |
| 10:13.36 | cp15 | What have you configured before? |
| 10:13.43 | eme | nothing |
| 10:13.48 | eme | joust starting gomunicatro |
| 10:14.28 | eme | when i boot on |
| 10:14.30 | cp15 | Can you install strace and take a look what gpe-conf is doing? |
| 10:14.32 | eme | cpu is normal |
| 10:15.04 | eme | when i start anny app in settings then cpu go up to 100% and stay there |
| 10:15.25 | eme | can check v ps ax |
| 10:15.27 | eme | with ps ax |
| 10:15.30 | eme | second |
| 10:15.39 | cp15 | If gomunicator takes 100% CPU I know the reason. It has a bug which triggers when the ringtone ends |
| 10:15.52 | cp15 | The ps is somewhat limited :-( |
| 10:16.06 | eme | thing you are right |
| 10:17.08 | eme | will put ringtone on sdcard and try again. |
| 10:17.58 | eme | is this right location for ringtone /usr/share/gomunicator/ |
| 10:18.10 | eme | what ist the filename of the ringtone please? |
| 10:18.50 | cp15 | From the wiki (added a few minutes ago): Copy output.raw as /usr/share/gomunicator/R&C_theme.raw to your device |
| 10:18.50 | cp15 | ToDo list |
| 10:19.06 | cp15 | Copied a bit too much |
| 10:19.55 | eme | what abt power off? |
| 10:20.01 | eme | where can I check this? |
| 10:20.10 | eme | and suspend? |
| 10:24.32 | cp15 | There is no power off |
| 10:24.52 | cp15 | Suspend partly works. Try apm.disabled --suspend |
| 10:25.10 | cp15 | But the power consumption in suspend mode is still to high |
| 10:25.15 | rob_w | i am almost there to compile gomunicator directly .. only some linker things need to be sorted out .. |
| 10:25.50 | cp15 | Since it is no real suspend in the current image, just a "turn off the display and put the cpu in slow idle mode" |
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| 10:27.40 | eme | ok, thanks. will go now to find ringtone on wiki. |
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| 11:00.50 | pH5 | morning all |
| 11:13.06 | cp15 | Good morning pH5 |
| 11:13.11 | cp15 | I have read your bot mail |
| 11:13.20 | pH5 | hey cp15. |
| 11:13.23 | cp15 | The dma may be the cause for the memory corruption |
| 11:13.44 | pH5 | i've changed generic -> magician and removed the OFFSET in vsfb, still the same results |
| 11:13.51 | pH5 | (only the display is aligned now) |
| 11:15.28 | cp15 | Have you also tried to change the 0x20 to 0x00 in the address? |
| 11:16.34 | pH5 | not yet |
| 11:16.36 | cp15 | Ok, when you are in windows, dump the following addresses to get information about dma 6 channel: |
| 11:17.42 | cp15 | pd 0x40000018 4 (control register) |
| 11:18.36 | eme | Copy output.raw as /usr/share/gomunicator/R&C_theme.raw to your device , then I get C_theme.raw command not found. I know & maybe mistake or what??? |
| 11:18.37 | cp15 | pd 0x40000260 4 (descriptor register) |
| 11:18.56 | cp15 | pd 0x40000264 4 (source register) |
| 11:19.00 | eme | and sorry for interuption |
| 11:19.37 | cp15 | pd 0x40000268 4 (target register) |
| 11:19.44 | cp15 | pd 0x4000026c 4 (command register) |
| 11:20.12 | cp15 | eme: You have to set the filename in " or ' quotes, since the & is a special shell character |
| 11:20.34 | eme | hmmm, tks |
| 11:22.31 | eme | it rings :) |
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| 12:10.19 | pH5 | cp15: control register is 0x00000008 |
| 12:10.31 | pH5 | cp15: descriptor register is 0xa0031020 |
| 12:10.44 | pH5 | cp15: source register is 0xa0028460 |
| 12:13.47 | cp15 | And target? |
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| 12:16.32 | cp15 | Hmm... The control register says the dma is disabled |
| 12:16.47 | cp15 | But descriptor and source are valid ram addresses |
| 12:16.55 | cp15 | Can you look for the target address? |
| 12:19.37 | pH1 | that's 0x40000268? |
| 12:20.40 | cp15 | yes |
| 12:20.45 | cp15 | and command also |
| 12:20.52 | cp15 | 0x4000026c |
| 12:21.06 | pH1 | target is 0x41000010 |
| 12:21.39 | pH1 | and command is 0x90229390 |
| 12:22.33 | cp15 | target is ssp1 |
| 12:24.55 | cp15 | Which is the touchscreen controller according to cr2 |
| 12:25.43 | cp15 | But since it transfers from ram to ssp1 it is probably not the culprit |
| 12:25.52 | pH1 | also CKEN(0x41300004) is 01515ee9 |
| 12:26.10 | pH1 | isn't the ssp1 clock disabled here? |
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| 12:29.38 | cp15 | Seems so |
| 12:32.33 | cp15 | But there might be another problem |
| 12:33.04 | cp15 | The dma loads descriptors from ram, which gets overwritten by linux. So it might run without control |
| 12:38.12 | pH5 | can't we disable all dma channels before jumping into the kernel? |
| 12:38.35 | cp15 | It is done already, as I have seen |
| 12:38.48 | cp15 | But it disables only 16 channels, the pxa27 has 32 channels |
| 12:39.33 | cp15 | I am just checking if it is enough to replace the 16 by 32 |
| 12:39.50 | pH5 | hm. but 6 should be one of the first 16 channels, shouldn't it? |
| 12:40.49 | cp15 | Yeah, but 6 is probably not the problematic one |
| 12:40.59 | pH5 | ah, ok |
| 12:41.36 | pH5 | this low level stuff is like black magic to me |
| 12:43.43 | cp15 | Ok, goto src/wince/cpu-pxa.cpp in haret |
| 12:44.15 | cp15 | in function pxaResetDMA replace 16 with 32 and 40 with 63 |
| 12:45.58 | cp15 | This leaves some map registers out (Memory Stick, SSP3, Quick Capture Interface, DREQ2), but hopefully the disabled channels will be enough |
| 12:46.51 | pH5 | done. that's all? |
| 12:47.02 | cp15 | I hope... Just give it a try |
| 12:47.27 | pH5 | i hope as the magician has no memory stick and the camera is disabled, this shouldn't matter |
| 12:48.21 | cp15 | The DREQ2 might be problematic... It is for dma from/to external (not in the pxa integrated) devices |
| 12:48.41 | pH5 | cp15: what kind of devices? |
| 12:49.24 | cp15 | Maybe the wireless lan interface to transfer network data... But I don't really know |
| 12:49.53 | pH5 | it has no wlan |
| 12:50.03 | pH5 | maybe we're lucky |
| 12:52.38 | cp15 | We can disable the map registers later, but it requires more than just changing a number since the registers are not continous |
| 12:53.08 | cp15 | BTW: Are you planning to go to the CCC congress between christmas and new year? |
| 12:53.36 | cp15 | There is a talk about linux on mobile phones, and I am taking part in this one |
| 12:54.31 | pH5 | cp15: unfortunately, I'll be out of town until 20060101 |
| 12:55.26 | cp15 | Oh no, a new year |
| 12:55.35 | cp15 | Wasn't there just a new one? |
| 12:58.45 | pH5 | the zImage still hangs |
| 12:59.04 | cp15 | :-( |
| 12:59.17 | pH5 | no wonder time goes by so fast if it takes so long just to get to a proper zImage kernel panic |
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| 13:00.18 | lkcl | wotcha |
| 13:00.21 | lkcl | ~botmail read |
| 13:00.43 | cp15 | Hi lkcl, do you have any idea what might be the problem if Image boots but zImage does not? |
| 13:00.46 | lkcl | hi oxi |
| 13:00.53 | lkcl | eek, no. |
| 13:01.09 | lkcl | that sounds very odd, cp15 |
| 13:01.34 | cp15 | ph5: I would just continue with the Image. Maybe we get some more hints to the problem later |
| 13:01.58 | cp15 | I assume that the zImage fails because of some memory corruption |
| 13:02.15 | cp15 | But even with all dma channels disabled it just doesn't work |
| 13:02.26 | lkcl | with the himalaya, booting took several attempts. |
| 13:02.38 | lkcl | sometimes they worked, sometimes they didn't. |
| 13:03.21 | cp15 | On the BA it works with a 20:1 chance, I would say |
| 13:05.16 | lkcl | btw, cp15: thought i'd look at ahioem.asm again. you got any clue as to what spi_out_data would do? |
| 13:05.32 | lkcl | nothing to do with the screen, at all, would it? guess? |
| 13:06.12 | cp15 | No, not exactly. My best guess is that the toppoly LCD contains some additional logic which is programmed via the spi |
| 13:06.41 | lkcl | hmmm... oh dear. |
| 13:07.04 | lkcl | in some ways i think we'd be better off looking at the bootloader assembly instead. |
| 13:07.33 | cp15 | The bootloader is a bit harder to understand than a single dll |
| 13:07.48 | cp15 | But I have an emulator where I can run it and see what it does to the gpios |
| 13:08.07 | lkcl | ooo. |
| 13:08.08 | pH5 | hi lkcl |
| 13:08.12 | lkcl | heya ph5 |
| 13:08.21 | pH5 | cp15: i guess i'll have to do as you propose :) |
| 13:09.54 | cp15 | Maybe you could try the BA ramdisk and see if you get a crc error when the kernel unpacks it |
| 13:10.38 | cp15 | It might be also quite possible that there is a bug with the memory layout and the decompression stage fails |
| 13:11.22 | cp15 | lkcl: Do you have any idea why the image compiled by you is over 2 times the size of the last image? |
| 13:13.48 | lkcl | probably because i compiled in debug info / specified debug info in the bitbake options somewhere. |
| 13:13.53 | lkcl | blame immolo :) |
| 13:14.43 | cp15 | Have you specified DEBUG_BUILD = "1" or INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" in your local.conf? |
| 13:14.47 | lkcl | want me to switch it all off and run it again? |
| 13:14.58 | lkcl | ah, yes - that's right. local.conf. yep! |
| 13:15.12 | cp15 | Ok, then remove both options |
| 13:15.15 | lkcl | ack. |
| 13:15.27 | cp15 | I also have some requests for new modules to be integrated: |
| 13:15.35 | lkcl | shoot. |
| 13:16.07 | lkcl | btw that damn keyboard module still don't get thingied. |
| 13:16.32 | cp15 | With autoload: blueangel_suspend blueangel_leds blueangel_dpram blueangel_battery |
| 13:16.36 | lkcl | oh - what does LDRH do, again? |
| 13:16.45 | lkcl | i've got suspend in already... |
| 13:16.50 | cp15 | Without autoload ledscore battery nfs |
| 13:17.07 | lkcl | and leds |
| 13:17.12 | cp15 | Load register halfword |
| 13:17.19 | cp15 | halfword=16 Bit |
| 13:17.26 | lkcl | in the top or bottom half? |
| 13:17.46 | cp15 | There is only a bottom half on arm. Show me the complete instruction |
| 13:17.57 | lkcl | LDRH R0, [R2], #2 |
| 13:18.38 | lkcl | R2 = 0x90002000 |
| 13:18.42 | lkcl | which is a bit odd. |
| 13:18.55 | cp15 | In C: r0=*((short *) (r2+2)) |
| 13:19.05 | lkcl | ta. |
| 13:20.17 | cp15 | I will take a look into the 0x6 suspend code next week. This week I can't because I need a working phone |
| 13:20.26 | lkcl | :) |
| 13:20.36 | lkcl | ack. |
| 13:21.24 | lkcl | okay. so. module_autoload: suspend, leds, dpram, batter. |
| 13:21.25 | cp15 | BTW: I have found your resume. Quite impressive |
| 13:21.31 | lkcl | *snort* :) |
| 13:21.42 | lkcl | oh. that reminds me. linkedin.com. very useful. |
| 13:22.10 | lkcl | a lot of free software developers are on it and creating projects as "companies". e.g. "Debian" as a non-profit "company". |
| 13:22.46 | lkcl | send me an email address i'd be delighted to create a link to you (and rob when he wakes up) |
| 13:23.10 | lkcl | what does "without autoload ledscore battery nfs" mean? |
| 13:23.24 | pH5 | cp15: where do I find the ba ramdisk? |
| 13:23.39 | pH5 | the BlueangelKernel wiki links seem to be broken |
| 13:24.56 | cp15 | http://gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/sd/linux/ |
| 13:25.09 | pH5 | cp15: thanks |
| 13:26.46 | lkcl | what's CMP r1, r0; BCC loc_10001288 again, cp15? |
| 13:27.13 | cp15 | lkcl: Add it to the BA_MODULES_kernel26 but not to modules_autoload |
| 13:27.31 | lkcl | ack. understood. |
| 13:28.02 | pH5 | is there a ba 2.4 kernel? |
| 13:28.22 | lkcl | you _really_ don't want to be using 2.4, ph5. |
| 13:28.29 | pH5 | if not, why not just drop the _kernel26 override? |
| 13:28.40 | lkcl | you will get _absolutely_ no help from russell, or anybody. |
| 13:28.49 | lkcl | yeh, good point: why _are_ we doing that? :) |
| 13:29.01 | pH5 | copy&paste from h3900, i guess |
| 13:29.12 | lkcl | i like cut/paste |
| 13:29.27 | pH5 | :) |
| 13:32.33 | lkcl | off we go again... |
| 13:33.11 | cp15 | if (r1 < r0) goto loc_10001288 (I hope) |
| 13:35.46 | cp15 | Ah, please also do a fresh kernel checkout, in the old one battery doesn't work |
| 13:38.11 | pH5 | cp15: is there a way to read the voltage of the internal nimh backup battery on ba? |
| 13:38.31 | lkcl | i deleted the ../sources/linux26-xan.... |
| 13:38.40 | lkcl | and everything, really :) |
| 13:38.47 | cp15 | Probably, since windows can do it. But I have yet to find out how :-) |
| 13:39.47 | pH5 | cp15: it seems to me that for the ipaqs also nobody knows how to do it :-/ |
| 13:41.03 | cp15 | On the BA it is probably done via the dpram asic, but the protocol is very complicated |
| 13:43.02 | cp15 | lkcl: Any idea why zblueangel_kp does not work? |
| 13:49.18 | cp15 | Doesn't usb work` |
| 13:49.20 | cp15 | Doesn't usb work? |
| 13:52.07 | pH5 | hm. i just tried with the initrd and now even the Image doesn't boot |
| 13:52.20 | pH5 | cp15: how to I transfer files to a wince device over usb? |
| 13:52.42 | pH5 | until now i didn't think the time to learn how to do it wasn't worth it |
| 13:55.09 | cp15 | Install synce then you can do a pcp localfile :remotefile |
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| 13:56.23 | cp15 | But OTOH: The ipaq-Module from synce makes some trouble when switching to linux. So if BT is ok for you... |
| 14:00.16 | pH5 | it is, once I've saved that initrd into wince storage |
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| 14:37.38 | cp15 | Ok, I have to leave now for doing some customer work and a birthday party |
| 14:37.40 | cp15 | Bye |
| 14:37.45 | pH5 | bye cp15 |
| 14:39.04 | pH5 | RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 |
| 14:39.04 | pH5 | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0) |
| 14:41.56 | cp15 | Have you specified root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=14336 keepinitrd |
| 14:42.11 | cp15 | At least it doesn't seem to get an crc error |
| 14:42.56 | pH5 | cp15: yes |
| 14:47.57 | lkcl | heya cp15: i'm off out until this evening. a new build will be done in a couple hours, i'll upload it this evening. |
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| 15:23.46 | pH5 | cp15: compiling in ext2 support did the trick :) |
| 15:47.24 | eme | cp15: good evening. do you have a minute? |
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| 16:58.40 | eme | good evening. I have installed from hh-wiki on blueangel, beside no bt and wifi, I do not get usbnet working on host pc. no such device. Yes I do modprobe usbnet. |
| 16:59.22 | eme | kernel on host side is 2.6.14-2-k7 os Debian testing/unstable |
| 17:00.57 | pH5 | hi eme |
| 17:01.24 | pH5 | did you load the cdc_subset driver or something equivalent? |
| 17:01.55 | eme | on host side? |
| 17:01.55 | pH5 | yes |
| 17:01.55 | eme | no will do it now |
| 17:02.14 | pH5 | on 2.6.14 usbnet is only the framework |
| 17:03.27 | eme | it is the same...no device |
| 17:03.53 | pH5 | hm. do see something in the host kernel log when you plug in the cable? |
| 17:04.17 | eme | nothing, maybe different usb id or something |
| 17:06.10 | eme | lsusb also gave nothing |
| 17:06.43 | eme | do I have to do anything on ba side? |
| 17:07.09 | pH5 | can you see if pxa2xx_udc and g_ether modules are loaded? |
| 17:07.21 | eme | usbnet on ba is up |
| 17:08.24 | pH5 | that's strange. then it should at least show up in lsusb imho. |
| 17:09.03 | eme | i know ... :( |
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| 17:15.31 | eme | mouse, card reader, camera, everythings popup in kernel.log joust linux on ba does not. I |
| 17:23.27 | pH5 | eme: I just have the same problem with my magician. pxa27x_udc loaded, g_ether loaded, but it doesn't show up on the host. |
| 17:23.53 | pH5 | I only see a "udc: USB reset" message on the magician's console whenever I plug in the cable |
| 17:37.07 | eme | Bus 001 Device 007: ID 049f:505a Compaq Computer Corp. SA-11x0 based Linux Devic |
| 17:37.10 | eme | will se now |
| 17:39.09 | eme | finaly.....root@blueangel:~# |
| 17:39.20 | pH5 | eme: what did you change? |
| 17:39.26 | eme | nothing, |
| 17:39.31 | pH5 | :) |
| 17:39.34 | eme | reset it again |
| 17:39.40 | eme | and put it into craddle |
| 17:39.44 | eme | boot wince |
| 17:40.00 | eme | insert cf card boot linux |
| 17:40.23 | eme | thing ba must stay in creaddle when booting |
| 17:41.38 | eme | during boot ba was recognized in syslog |
| 17:44.48 | oxi | hi |
| 17:44.59 | pH5 | hi oxi |
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| 18:46.02 | immolo | how on earth do you compile in debug stuff with oe :P |
| 18:48.25 | pH5 | immolo: set DEBUG_BUILD="1" and INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP="1" in your local configuration file. |
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| 19:06.12 | immolo | pH5, oh just wondering how lkcl managed to get it |
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| 21:16.19 | oxi | once the mmc/sd module is loaded, where under /dev do you access the device? |
| 21:17.16 | pH5 | mmcblkp0 if you don't use devfs |
| 21:17.29 | oxi | thanks |
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| 21:46.07 | oxi | where can i find info on asic3? what it is, how to implement for my device etc. |
| 21:47.05 | oxi | do xanadux devs have any irc channel? |
| 21:47.56 | oxi | everyone off already? :) |
| 21:48.38 | immolo | :O a sparcbook on ebay I'm in heaven |
| 21:50.26 | immolo | but then I could also buy a pretty ibook |
| 22:14.49 | immolo | or I could just buy an arm based sub notebook and port gentoo to it, so much choice so little money |
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| 23:49.33 | oxi | gentoo rocks |