| 00:04.04 | *** join/#htc-blueangel benf (n=ben@219-88-85-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 00:04.52 | benf | anyone here? |
| 00:10.30 | lkcl | no, definitely all hanging out to dry, benf |
| 00:10.35 | lkcl | i no exist. |
| 00:10.47 | lkcl | i am a figment of my _own_ imagination - let alone yours :) |
| 00:10.49 | lkcl | hi benf :) |
| 00:11.04 | benf | ha, i tried the other day and ppl were hiding then too!! |
| 00:11.28 | lkcl | yeh, 1 person's on australia TZ (GMT +11 or so) |
| 00:11.40 | lkcl | another on swedish/finnish (GMT +1 or +2) |
| 00:11.42 | benf | me too, i'm in new zealand! |
| 00:12.03 | lkcl | and i'm in GMT. |
| 00:12.13 | lkcl | i really shouldn't be up... |
| 00:12.23 | benf | whereabouts are u? |
| 00:12.30 | lkcl | just watching paint dry - compilers, gpe... |
| 00:12.34 | lkcl | banbury, uk. |
| 00:13.02 | benf | i'm from chichester originally! |
| 00:13.06 | lkcl | yeh? :) |
| 00:13.09 | benf | so u have linux working on yr xda? |
| 00:13.13 | lkcl | yep. |
| 00:13.22 | lkcl | got it today. |
| 00:13.30 | lkcl | teehee. |
| 00:13.44 | benf | dailer as well? |
| 00:13.50 | lkcl | dailer? what's that. |
| 00:14.30 | lkcl | what's "dailer"? |
| 00:14.31 | benf | to use the phone... was anuder the impression that the phone didn't really work...? |
| 00:14.33 | lkcl | burble |
| 00:14.39 | lkcl | oh. yes. it works. |
| 00:14.42 | lkcl | dialer. |
| 00:15.10 | benf | COOOL!!! is it good? |
| 00:15.15 | lkcl | you have to put a file in /usr/share/gomunicator/R&C_theme.raw |
| 00:15.26 | lkcl | well... it works, which is yeh, very cool. |
| 00:15.46 | lkcl | cp15 is just working on proper "suspend" at the mo instead of "idle" which is somewhat of a cheat. |
| 00:15.49 | benf | i haven't tried it yet... still my only phone ATM so don't wanna turn it into a brick!! |
| 00:16.25 | lkcl | you won't do that (very unlikely) because you have an SD card, right, and you boot from haret.exe off the 1st partition, from inside wince. |
| 00:16.46 | lkcl | and there's no way - yet - to touch the "disk on chip" partition, although cp15 is working on that right now. |
| 00:16.55 | benf | doesn't it require cold reboot after? |
| 00:17.03 | benf | what's cp15? |
| 00:17.10 | lkcl | type "/who" |
| 00:17.35 | lkcl | _after_ you stop using linux, and if you want to return to wince (i never want to...) then yes, you need a hard reset. |
| 00:18.23 | benf | oh right! what kinda apps do u have with it.. can u install others easily? |
| 00:19.03 | lkcl | the entire GPE / familiar suite. yes - through ipk (similar - actually identical - to .debs) |
| 00:19.34 | benf | excellent!! how long did it take u to set up? |
| 00:19.36 | lkcl | so the entire "familiar" suite of linux/PDA packages that were initially developed for the iPAQs |
| 00:20.04 | lkcl | about 2 hours because i had to mess about with the reformatting of my SD-card (plugged into the USB card reader) |
| 00:20.09 | lkcl | it was a pain. |
| 00:20.25 | lkcl | rather than follow the instructions (at ... lemme find them...) |
| 00:20.53 | benf | i have a webpage to follow... is it reasonably straightforward? |
| 00:20.53 | lkcl | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 00:20.57 | lkcl | i had to: |
| 00:21.03 | benf | yep, that's the one!! |
| 00:21.36 | lkcl | trash the entire SD-card (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc count=1 bs=1024 ) |
| 00:21.44 | lkcl | do NOT get that wrong, WHATEVER you do. |
| 00:22.00 | lkcl | then put it into the XDA and let it reformat it. |
| 00:22.02 | benf | HA HA!! rm -rf / :/ |
| 00:22.22 | lkcl | much xxxxing worse than rm -fr / because it destroys the partition table |
| 00:22.45 | lkcl | then do fdisk /dev/sdc and remove the partitions |
| 00:23.10 | benf | how much space did u use? |
| 00:23.11 | lkcl | add ONE 30mb partition, do NOT format it (don't do the mkfs.vfat) but DO mark it as type 6 with fdisk |
| 00:23.16 | lkcl | 30mb for the first partition. |
| 00:23.47 | lkcl | then remove it _again_ from the XDA after checking that it's recognised by the XDA, and create the 2nd partition and format it. |
| 00:23.57 | lkcl | but try first of all just following the instructions. |
| 00:24.33 | lkcl | oh. |
| 00:24.45 | lkcl | remember to _unpack_ the gpe-image.tar.bz2 |
| 00:24.46 | benf | i'll give it a go... how much do u need for the / filesystem? |
| 00:25.01 | lkcl | rather than do what i did, which was to simply copy the image onto the ext3 filesystem |
| 00:25.09 | lkcl | errr, dunno. 64mb? |
| 00:25.31 | lkcl | i have a 256mb SD card, 30mb for the linux kernel, haret.exe, initrd and startup.txt |
| 00:25.36 | lkcl | is recommended. |
| 00:25.49 | benf | i have one that big somewhere i think!! |
| 00:25.51 | lkcl | the rest entirely given over to gpe. |
| 00:26.01 | lkcl | there you go, then :) |
| 00:26.24 | benf | cool!!! does grps work ok? |
| 00:26.33 | lkcl | grps? what's that? |
| 00:26.37 | lkcl | gprs you mean. |
| 00:26.46 | lkcl | oh - probably. i think someone said it does. |
| 00:26.47 | benf | yep |
| 00:26.59 | benf | how bout wifi? |
| 00:26.59 | lkcl | you need to do some stupid ctrl-b commands ctrl-v |
| 00:27.18 | lkcl | apparently wifi is a recognised chipset : i've yet to try getting it to work. |
| 00:27.34 | benf | how'd u mean? ctrl-b ctrl-v |
| 00:28.18 | lkcl | ctrl-b ATDT.... ctrl-v |
| 00:28.44 | lkcl | there's some stupidity where the GSM and the GPRS can be done on the same serial line, with some "escape" sequences |
| 00:29.05 | lkcl | ctrl-b means "go into GPRS mode". ctrl-v means "come out of GPRS mode". |
| 00:31.12 | bhima | It's not stupid, it's useful... |
| 00:31.51 | lkcl | yeh, i know :) |
| 00:34.54 | benf | oh right!! i have the ATDT stuff already as i use it as a BT modem with GPRS! |
| 00:35.34 | benf | does anyone have opie running on this..? |
| 00:35.53 | lkcl | opie - that sounds about right. is it the same as gpe? |
| 00:36.38 | benf | it's similar i think... saw someone running it on an ipaq on the weekend! |
| 00:38.12 | benf | lkcl: is it ok if i hit u up for some help in a coupla days... i'll be on the nightshift and that's when i'm gonna get it up n running!!! |
| 00:38.35 | lkcl | yeh, sure. can't guarantee i'll be up-and-about |
| 00:38.43 | lkcl | but if i am, then of course. |
| 00:39.16 | lkcl | building a cross-compiler is a pain. |
| 00:39.28 | lkcl | http://people.debian.org/~debacle/cross/ |
| 00:39.37 | benf | thanx mate!! |
| 00:40.39 | lkcl | np. |
| 00:40.39 | benf | how'd u mean? |
| 00:41.03 | lkcl | i'm trying to build the whole lot, myself, because i can. |
| 00:41.19 | benf | ah right.. u using ulibc? |
| 00:41.23 | lkcl | but i also want to build the kernel on my laptop. |
| 00:41.43 | benf | what u running on yr LT? |
| 00:41.46 | lkcl | no... not using ulibc. |
| 00:41.48 | lkcl | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 00:41.51 | lkcl | debian/testing. |
| 00:42.19 | lkcl | so i'm presently [and separately...] building the cross-compiler arm-linux-gcc on my laptop... erk... |
| 00:42.34 | benf | hmmm... nice! :/ |
| 00:43.10 | lkcl | just for fun, and because i can... if it don't work, i can always use the one that the openembedded stuff built |
| 00:43.38 | benf | it works ok just copying the ext3 filesystem..? |
| 00:43.39 | lkcl | i can't quite get used to being able to build the entire toolchain for a mobile phone device. |
| 00:43.57 | benf | what do u mean by toolchain exactly? |
| 00:44.14 | lkcl | well - formatting the partition as ext3 and then tar -xvjf gpe-image.tar.bz2 onto it, yes. |
| 00:44.17 | lkcl | toolchain |
| 00:44.35 | lkcl | downloading the entire build environment and then the source code of openembedded |
| 00:44.59 | lkcl | and compiling the gpe thing myself. |
| 00:45.07 | lkcl | and the kernel. the lot. |
| 00:45.41 | lkcl | got a 1.8ghz 3000+ AMD64 with 2gb memory (only £350) so i figure, what the heck - might as well use it |
| 00:46.17 | benf | don't u just compile to a different directory with a different ARCH and against different glibc... (must admit i don't know much about this stuff!!) |
| 00:46.46 | benf | have u seen the new JASJAR BTW??! *drools* |
| 00:47.27 | lkcl | something like that, benf - but first you need the compiler and other tools to be able to target the new ARCH... :) |
| 00:47.42 | lkcl | and you need glibc to be compiled with the cross-compiler, too... |
| 00:47.50 | benf | is it not GCC then? |
| 00:47.57 | benf | oh right! |
| 00:48.12 | lkcl | yes it's gcc - compiled up on x86 but to "generate" arm assembler. |
| 00:48.18 | lkcl | it's called a cross-compiler. |
| 00:48.21 | benf | oh right! |
| 00:48.37 | benf | sounds like quite a project!! |
| 00:49.01 | lkcl | otherwise, you need a "native" compiler, running on your XDA-2, at only 400 mhz, and nfs mounted to your PC otherwise you'll run out of space pretty quick :) |
| 00:49.28 | lkcl | well enough people have done it such that some google searches (where i found the links above) and asking some questions gets you there pretty quick. |
| 00:49.30 | benf | hmm, that sounds like a losing ide!!! |
| 00:50.04 | lkcl | well... you'd think so... but actually, compaq put a lot of iPAQs out on the internet for mad linux developers to log in to and use (!) |
| 00:50.17 | benf | yeah... i only really started looking yesterday! the limit b4 that was xda-developers.com and xanadux |
| 00:50.25 | lkcl | with enough of them, you can use distcc and spread the load across stacks of machines. |
| 00:50.35 | lkcl | i worked on the himalaya (xda-2) 18 months ago. |
| 00:50.48 | lkcl | i'm _so_ relieved that my work didn't go to waste. |
| 00:50.57 | benf | what did u do on the project? |
| 00:51.07 | benf | did they ever get xanadux working? |
| 00:51.10 | lkcl | i did the touchscreen driver and the initial framebuffer (based on vga) |
| 00:51.14 | lkcl | sort-of. |
| 00:51.20 | lkcl | the bit that was missing was the audio. |
| 00:51.46 | lkcl | it _would_ actually be a lot easier to revisit the project, now, what with the significant work that's been done on the blueangel, since. |
| 00:51.53 | benf | musta been a fun project! |
| 00:52.00 | lkcl | it was hell, dude :) |
| 00:52.03 | lkcl | i fried my brain |
| 00:52.07 | benf | is it pretty much defunct then? |
| 00:52.11 | lkcl | which is why i stopped |
| 00:52.23 | lkcl | well, there were only two of us working on it. |
| 00:52.32 | benf | oh, fair one fried brain == bad! |
| 00:52.47 | lkcl | but, fortunately, HTC has "evolved" their products rather than abandoned earlier work |
| 00:53.25 | benf | is there anything working on the mini (i have one of them too) |
| 00:53.41 | lkcl | the mini is, from what i gather, a totally different manufacturer. |
| 00:54.14 | benf | oh really?! thought it was still HTC! |
| 00:54.19 | lkcl | i _believe_ that HTC didn't have a product out, at the time, so the phone companies went to see if they could find a different product from someone else - .... |
| 00:54.24 | lkcl | i honestly don't know |
| 00:54.38 | lkcl | i'd be delighted if it was [still HTC] |
| 00:54.52 | lkcl | _but_ - who cares, with blueangel so near to useable? :) |
| 00:54.58 | benf | meh, i gave it to my girlfreind neway... she'd kill me if i penguined it! |
| 00:55.08 | lkcl | *cackle* |
| 00:55.22 | benf | yep, true!! can't wait till the JASJAR runs it too!!! :))) |
| 00:55.47 | lkcl | what _is_ jasjar, anyway? |
| 00:56.17 | benf | it's a 3G HTC.. i'll find a link brb |
| 00:57.04 | lkcl | oooooooooooooo i waaannt ooone |
| 00:57.41 | benf | http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAR.aspx |
| 00:57.41 | benf | http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119353 |
| 00:57.52 | benf | gtg... be back in about an hour if yr still on... otherwise i'll catch u later!! |
| 00:57.56 | benf | ME TOOOO!!! |
| 00:58.55 | lkcl | k dude. gotta sleep |
| 01:38.54 | benf | k back now! |
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| 03:44.29 | themastermix | Hi @ all i have a question, i had start linux with a SD Card on my BlueAngle and the last of the boot messages on my screen is "ser_Stuart_gpio_config 1" what can i do ? |
| 03:46.17 | themastermix | is everyone here ? |
| 03:46.49 | bhima | Nope. |
| 03:46.54 | bhima | somebody might be here. |
| 03:46.59 | benf | soory mate, can't help u... i'm gonna be trying mine in a few days! :) |
| 03:48.22 | themastermix | have you more sites with informations ? |
| 03:48.45 | themastermix | about Blue Angle and linux? |
| 03:52.01 | benf | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel |
| 03:52.12 | benf | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelResearch |
| 03:52.30 | benf | http://people.debian.org/~debacle/cross/ |
| 03:52.38 | benf | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 03:52.45 | benf | that's about all i got! |
| 03:53.05 | themastermix | ok thanks |
| 03:55.35 | themastermix | ok i go to test it now , bye |
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| 07:36.31 | *** mode/#htc-blueangel [+o cp15] by ChanServ |
| 07:36.50 | cp15 | good morning |
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| 08:36.13 | *** mode/#htc-blueangel [+o rob_w-cgi] by ChanServ |
| 08:36.24 | rob_w-cgi | morning all |
| 08:57.46 | cp15 | Morning rob |
| 09:13.12 | rob_w-cgi | crap .. we are only half the people in the office ,, so that friday is hell |
| 10:01.52 | lkcl | yaay! build completed, at about 3am. |
| 10:02.11 | rob_w-cgi | congrats |
| 10:02.18 | lkcl | allo rob. |
| 10:02.22 | rob_w-cgi | what MACHINE did you use ? |
| 10:02.28 | lkcl | blueangel |
| 10:02.35 | rob_w-cgi | good |
| 10:02.41 | lkcl | bitbuggerer gpe-angel |
| 10:02.46 | lkcl | bitbuggerer gpe-image |
| 10:03.34 | lkcl | oops, the damn thing's crashed again, overnight. been doing that "idle" bounce every 10 mins, eventually it was too much for it. |
| 10:03.53 | lkcl | hmm, time for a new image, methinks. _oh_ look - i got one already, let's try it :) |
| 10:04.08 | lkcl | morning cp15 |
| 10:05.16 | lkcl | dang, it's 32mb, bz2 compressed... |
| 10:14.59 | rob_w-cgi | i was planning to build these soon regulary and pop them on website for downloads .. so feel free to provide me with any problem or update on your image builds |
| 10:15.34 | lkcl | off we go.... |
| 10:15.46 | lkcl | we're about to find out, wheeee |
| 10:16.41 | lkcl | pivot_root: no such file or directory - oops... |
| 10:16.59 | cp15 | Yeah, the /oldroot is missing |
| 10:17.18 | lkcl | _now_ you tell me! :) |
| 10:17.38 | cp15 | I think we need to update linuxrc so it makes a mkdir -p /oldroot automatically |
| 10:18.07 | rob_w-cgi | hmm , we need to adjust that in our initrd |
| 10:18.08 | rob_w-cgi | takes note |
| 10:18.23 | cp15 | Yes, the image doesn't work out of the box. This is why I wanted a new build where we can integrate all the Changes I have made |
| 10:18.42 | lkcl | off we go again... |
| 10:19.07 | lkcl | that looks better... |
| 10:19.17 | lkcl | heeavve, heeeave |
| 10:19.26 | rob_w-cgi | i think we should stick to change the initrd ,, so we can use stock oe buils , right ? |
| 10:19.28 | lkcl | gpe 2.7 - yaay! |
| 10:19.33 | rob_w-cgi | let me take a look at the initrd now |
| 10:20.00 | cp15 | lkcl: I bet touchscreen, keyboard and usb are not working |
| 10:20.11 | lkcl | uh-oh.... :) |
| 10:20.34 | lkcl | dunno yet - will find out once it's got past the "booting please wait" |
| 10:20.55 | rob_w-cgi | strangly i recieve no calls today ..so i ve some time to "hack" the initrd |
| 10:21.19 | lkcl | i disconnected your customers, that's why. |
| 10:21.26 | lkcl | they all have _terrible_ telephone trouble. |
| 10:22.11 | lkcl | something to do with the phone network crashing, after an unauthorised linux mobile was started. it's on slashdot - read all about it! really! |
| 10:22.40 | rob_w-cgi | hehe great job |
| 10:23.08 | lkcl | gpe started aaaannnnd, you're right: touchscreen not working... |
| 10:23.22 | rob_w-cgi | this initrd still shows the pivot_root call with the /sbin path .. do we need to change this also , or is it magically working ? |
| 10:23.28 | lkcl | _and_ usb not working. |
| 10:23.46 | lkcl | drat. |
| 10:24.25 | lkcl | so ... ermm... *sigh* back to the old one |
| 10:25.10 | lkcl | well the startup worked fine just by thingy. creating oldroot. |
| 10:25.48 | lkcl | any clues as to why the ts, kb and usb aren't working, cp15? |
| 10:27.00 | rob_w-cgi | they are not loaded in the initrd and nor i guess in a stock blueangel image yet |
| 10:27.36 | lkcl | i'm still using the thingy. original initrd and original kernel. |
| 10:27.39 | rob_w-cgi | well usb is loaded but the ba needs tobe connected when the usb loads first ,, otherwise |
| 10:28.05 | rob_w-cgi | well then lets do some checks together |
| 10:28.18 | rob_w-cgi | so is usb connected and can you ssh ? |
| 10:28.36 | lkcl | usb is connected (lsusb) ifconfig usb0 fails. |
| 10:28.42 | lkcl | am gonna try another boot... |
| 10:28.53 | rob_w-cgi | ok do it in he docking !! |
| 10:29.15 | lkcl | i have been - honest |
| 10:29.16 | rob_w-cgi | then lets ssh into and go step by step and i will change the initrd accordingly |
| 10:29.37 | lkcl | oh - you mean the linuxrc? |
| 10:29.48 | rob_w-cgi | ok one other thing is to move the ipaq.ko on your host away |
| 10:29.51 | rob_w-cgi | yes |
| 10:29.56 | lkcl | okay, got it. |
| 10:30.14 | lkcl | i can always unpack the other one from the working gpe-image. |
| 10:30.44 | rob_w-cgi | cp15 ,, how about a account on this gnulinuz.biz ? |
| 10:30.53 | lkcl | hang on - there _isn't_ a linuxrc! |
| 10:31.22 | rob_w-cgi | not the one from in the image , but in our initrd |
| 10:31.37 | lkcl | oh right. yes. duh. |
| 10:31.52 | rob_w-cgi | so are you sshed in ? |
| 10:31.54 | lkcl | well i'm using the original one, not the one that just got compiled. |
| 10:31.59 | lkcl | gimme 2secs... |
| 10:32.05 | rob_w-cgi | thats good !! |
| 10:32.22 | cp15 | For an account on gnulinux.biz ask Funklord |
| 10:32.41 | lkcl | off we go... |
| 10:32.42 | rob_w-cgi | maybe you wanna try to new build one so we fix the initrd against a fresh build |
| 10:32.44 | lkcl | ramdisk |
| 10:32.46 | lkcl | mmc_probe |
| 10:32.47 | lkcl | add p1 p2 |
| 10:32.50 | rob_w-cgi | anyway go on |
| 10:32.51 | lkcl | ext3fs |
| 10:32.58 | lkcl | init v2.86 booting |
| 10:33.17 | lkcl | black screen.. familiar. hurrah. |
| 10:33.26 | rob_w-cgi | Funklord : wanna hand me out a ftp upload on your gnulinux.biz .. i am in the mood to get some fixes against the initrd .. |
| 10:33.32 | cp15 | I have to go working now... BBL |
| 10:33.38 | rob_w-cgi | cu |
| 10:34.22 | rob_w-cgi | ok ,lkcl please ssh into |
| 10:34.47 | lkcl | ifconfig usb0 isn't there. |
| 10:35.15 | lkcl | at what point is it reasonable to undock and redock? |
| 10:35.27 | lkcl | can i do that whilst it says "booting. please wait"? |
| 10:36.09 | rob_w-cgi | hmm |
| 10:36.23 | rob_w-cgi | i dont get it .. in the initrd we do load usb and ifconfig it ! |
| 10:37.18 | lkcl | no i am getting that "read error" again. |
| 10:37.20 | lkcl | brb - phone call.. |
| 10:37.39 | rob_w-cgi | ok |
| 10:37.46 | rob_w-cgi | same here |
| 11:07.45 | rob_w-cgi | re |
| 11:32.57 | lkcl | okay. |
| 11:33.00 | lkcl | what am i doing : |
| 11:39.36 | rob_w-cgi | ahmm .. on a call now .. ssh into and check 2 things .. first check your exports and see what PATH is telling you |
| 11:40.22 | lkcl | hmmm... i can't get a usb link even with wince. |
| 11:40.49 | lkcl | am gonna try removing all usb modules on my laptop, maybe letting the wince apps install. |
| 11:42.13 | rob_w-cgi | yeah we saw that when you plug it in and then linux starts loading the ipaq.ko and on the ba the ACtive crap sync starts .. |
| 11:42.19 | lkcl | oops - that'll be it: a kernel crash must have occurred earlier - need to reboot me laptop. there's an extra reference to usbcore that doesn't actually exist |
| 11:42.29 | rob_w-cgi | that we need to prevent by moving away the ipaq.ko on your host .. |
| 11:42.34 | lkcl | or there's a bug somewhere. i removed all modules |
| 11:42.36 | lkcl | ack - okay. |
| 11:42.53 | lkcl | and i still have one reference on usbcore that prevents me from unloading it |
| 11:42.55 | lkcl | brb |
| 11:43.00 | rob_w-cgi | yeah having the active sync process on the ba give us problems |
| 11:43.02 | rob_w-cgi | ok |
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| 11:47.36 | lkcl | allo again |
| 11:56.22 | lkcl | modules. |
| 11:56.23 | lkcl | duh. |
| 11:56.25 | lkcl | modules. |
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| 12:10.59 | rob_w-cgi | ok so how is it going ? where are you |
| 12:13.10 | Funklord | rob_w-cgi: pm me a password you want |
| 12:13.50 | rob_w-cgi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.00 | Funklord | ok |
| 12:20.17 | Funklord | rob_w-cgi: get my pm? |
| 12:33.43 | rob_w-cgi | ok got it |
| 12:38.01 | lkcl | heya. rob. of course: the kernel that got built would have a different set of modules from the ones on cp15's gpe-image. |
| 12:38.15 | lkcl | so i have a couple of choices of things to try |
| 12:38.18 | rob_w-cgi | well |
| 12:38.31 | lkcl | 1) copy over the old gpe-image modules |
| 12:38.44 | lkcl | 2) try to modify the initrd of the new gpe-image |
| 12:38.46 | lkcl | burble... |
| 12:38.48 | rob_w-cgi | if you hang on some sec i will get back to you |
| 12:38.51 | lkcl | ack. |
| 12:39.01 | rob_w-cgi | actually some 30 min .. sorry |
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| 12:42.10 | rob_w-cgi | ah my wife |
| 13:03.37 | lkcl | wheeeeee... try again... |
| 13:06.28 | lkcl | booting... heeave, heeave... why does this take so long? *sigh*... |
| 13:07.21 | lkcl | oop, here we go. runlevel 5 |
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| 14:01.47 | rob_w-cgi | ok .. damn done with a huge call |
| 14:36.22 | rob_w-cgi | ok i will give that a go today evening and see what i fix to work with stock images |
| 14:56.30 | lkcl | k. i copied over the modules from the old image - to no avail. |
| 14:59.32 | lkcl | booting up the old gpe-image again... |
| 15:09.43 | rob_w-cgi | hmm ok |
| 15:14.54 | rob_w-cgi | yeah i already have a initrd hack in mind to copy over the kernel modules if necessary ( checking if magic file exist on gpe image ) |
| 15:45.48 | lkcl | ah ha, i am back in |
| 15:45.56 | lkcl | with the "old" gpe. |
| 15:46.24 | lkcl | hmmm... no /dev/gsm0 though |
| 15:47.22 | lkcl | hmmm... it's there - just not openable... |
| 15:47.24 | lkcl | drat! |
| 16:00.39 | lkcl | huhn. now i'm getting gomunicator "permission denied" to /dev/gsm0 actually a symlink to /dev/tts/0 |
| 16:00.51 | lkcl | twice. after a reboot. |
| 16:02.55 | lkcl | hmmm... let's try a phone call from wince... |
| 16:20.17 | lkcl | duh. bug. if you don't enter an intial username at startup, then a user of "" gets added. this user - blank - doesn't have permission to open /dev/gsm0. |
| 16:20.24 | lkcl | because you can't add it to any groups! |
| 16:25.15 | lkcl | duh. i am thick. |
| 16:27.06 | rob_w-cgi | yeah i am running on root all the time |
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| 16:45.22 | cp15 | re |
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| 19:25.37 | JuNuKN | ~seen llange |
| 19:25.41 | apt | llange <n=llange@lange.nom.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-blueangel, 9d 20h 36m 43s ago, saying: 'no probs. =)'. |
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| 19:44.03 | rob_w | JuNuKN, seems busy elswhere |
| 19:45.06 | JuNuKN | ? Why have I missed a question? |
| 19:45.47 | rob_w | i meant , llange seems busy elsewhere |
| 19:47.06 | JuNuKN | Yeahr it seems so ,.... my big hope on a himalaya port is away ;o) |
| 19:52.30 | rob_w | he brought some big patches latetly |
| 19:52.36 | rob_w | did you have a change to work with them ? |
| 19:53.31 | lkcl | hey - did anyone work out what the audio chip is / audio contact sequence is on himalaya? |
| 19:55.01 | lkcl | philips uda1341, contacted over SSP, apparently. |
| 19:55.27 | JuNuKN | ... I am a linux beginner. ;o) |
| 19:55.54 | lkcl | ah, joy - get a blueangel then, instead :) |
| 19:58.51 | rob_w | wow , am testing a eval linux embedded toolkit ( some commercial thingi) and i cant even "install" their toolkit .. |
| 19:59.49 | JuNuKN | Yes, probably I will do that in a view months. But excuse me, - till now for me the BA is a little bit ugly and the keyboard i. |
| 20:00.52 | JuNuKN | keybard is on the wrong place. I would like to have the new Wizzard (from the design point of view) |
| 20:01.33 | rob_w | yeah , i dont use it much , yet it is nice when using gpe |
| 20:04.13 | JuNuKN | Yes, I would also like to use a keyboard on a linux device. But the Wizzard-Keyboard is nicer. For my Himalaya I bought a additional Keyboard for the serial line, to plug into the connector of the bottom and has nearly the same size as the one on Himalaya.- |
| 20:05.48 | JuNuKN | Will see, whether the price of the BA is still falling again after Christmas. Because it seems to be outdated now!? T-Mobile doesn't sell it anymore!? |
| 20:06.20 | JuNuKN | But if it has Linux,- it is UpToDate again and very hipp |
| 20:15.12 | rob_w | right , hippnes factor is one higher at that "wizzard" |
| 20:33.23 | JuNuKN | Wish you all a good night and success. |
| 20:35.24 | rob_w | wes = bhima ? |
| 20:37.25 | rob_w | i ve added the important modules to autoload in the image now |
| 20:37.31 | rob_w | lets see if that works |
| 20:56.10 | lkcl | hey rob: so, what should i do then? openembedded thingy update? monotone update, or what? |
| 20:57.43 | rob_w | not yet .. but then you either update the monotone database or you get a snapsthot again which includes the changes at the blueangel.conf file |
| 21:09.23 | rob_w | brb |
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| 21:17.48 | rob_w | crap i now need a usb2 sd card reader |
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| 21:37.50 | lamikr | cp15: Hi, have you had time to check the gomunicator patch I send? |
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| 21:45.06 | iclem | hello everyone |
| 21:48.54 | rob_w | hi iclem |
| 22:20.05 | cp15 | lamikr: No, not yet... Sorrry... I will do it tomorrow |
| 22:22.54 | lamikr | cp15: No problem... Just send me email if you have some problems and I am not in irc... Especially remember to check that it goes to else block in the configmodel.c. Now when I think, the default values should actually be set even if the /proc/cpuinfo does not have "hardware" line at all... |
| 22:23.33 | cp15 | I think I will make a blueangel block |
| 22:25.24 | rob_w | i tryed a new image and touch just didnt want to work ?!?! |
| 22:26.42 | cp15 | Probably you used the wrong kernel |
| 22:29.22 | rob_w | i did boot the normal initrd |
| 22:29.29 | rob_w | loading the module was fine , |
| 22:29.58 | rob_w | but yet the new image Xfebdev started with argument input=/dev/input/mice |
| 22:30.10 | cp15 | ? |
| 22:30.18 | rob_w | welll never mind |
| 22:31.23 | rob_w | but when i did cat /dev/input/event0 and touched i saw nothing ! |
| 22:32.59 | rob_w | and i found that we need to add things like module_autoload_blueangel_kp = "blueangel_kp" in the blueangel.conf |
| 22:37.46 | cp15 | Probably event0 is the keyboard? |
| 22:37.52 | cp15 | Do you have a event1 also? |
| 22:40.10 | rob_w | right , i think i did load the keyboard first ... crap |
| 22:40.44 | lamikr | gpe have mechanism for finding out automatically during the boot whether ts is in event0 or event1, or... |
| 22:41.40 | lamikr | but that needs couple of lines to config stuff... I have forget where, let me check. |
| 22:42.48 | rob_w | will try it tomorrow again ,, have to fall back to ppc to have proper navigation system |
| 22:45.12 | lamikr | I have following in my /etc/profile.d |
| 22:45.14 | lamikr | #!/bin/sh |
| 22:45.16 | lamikr | TSLIB_TSDEVICE=`detect-stylus --device` |
| 22:45.17 | lamikr | TSLIB_CONFFILE=/usr/share/tslib/ts.conf-h6300 |
| 22:45.19 | lamikr | export TSLIB_TSDEVICE TSLIB_CONFFILE |
| 22:45.49 | lamikr | name of the script is /etc/profile.d/tslib.sh |
| 22:47.49 | iclem | good night all |
| 22:47.59 | rob_w | sleep sweet |
| 22:48.18 | iclem | thx;) |
| 22:50.17 | rob_w | i think i used the stock /etc/ts.conf which doesnt load module_raw ,, that i had in my working image |
| 22:51.25 | rob_w | lamikr, but i dont see /usr/share/tslib/ts.conf-h6300 |
| 22:51.42 | rob_w | i miss the whole directorey actually ?!? |
| 22:52.19 | lamikr | hmm, strange... that dir should contain ts.conf files for all architechtures... |
| 22:53.24 | lamikr | Well, it seems that I have actually only 3 of them in there: |
| 22:53.34 | lamikr | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 103 Dec 7 06:17 ts.conf-h3600 |
| 22:53.36 | lamikr | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 103 Dec 7 06:17 ts.conf-h3600-2.4 |
| 22:53.38 | lamikr | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 103 Dec 7 06:17 ts.conf-h6300 |
| 22:55.47 | lamikr | The idea in this naming convention was to allow each system to have own config... If you want to get support for blueangel do following: |
| 22:56.08 | rob_w | i think i guess that |
| 22:56.38 | rob_w | lamikr, but where is that path ? |
| 22:56.50 | rob_w | in the gpe rootfs ? or inside oe ?? |
| 22:57.02 | lamikr | in gpe rootfs. |
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| 22:58.18 | lamikr | So you should then instead need to get /etc/ts.conf --> /usr/share/tslib/ts.conf-blueangel |
| 22:59.02 | lamikr | gpe-image build should have made that dir for you, but ofcourse without /usr/share/tslib/ts.conf-blueangel until somebody submits a patch for that. |
| 22:59.26 | lamikr | If you have oe buildsystem available, check following dir for idea howto do that: |
| 23:00.08 | lamikr | org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib/tslib |
| 23:01.15 | lamikr | files you need to change are: |
| 23:01.29 | lamikr | 1) org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib/tslib_cvs.bb |
| 23:02.09 | lamikr | 2) org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib/tslib/ts.conf-blueangel? (is that your model name) |
| 23:02.48 | lamikr | 3) org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib/tslib/blueangel/tslib.sh |
| 23:04.34 | lamikr | That's all... Try first to build the rootfs once after making those changes and then submit patch to oe bugzilla. |
| 23:05.11 | rob_w | i guess i only do patch like this .. +blueangel | h3600 | h3900 | h1940 | h6300 | h2200 | ipaq-pxa270) in the bb file |
| 23:05.36 | lamikr | Yes, that should be enought. |
| 23:06.25 | lamikr | I have push access to there, so I can also do the update to dev branch once monotone servers are back in business. |
| 23:06.42 | rob_w | oh , problems ? |
| 23:07.14 | rob_w | http://pastebin.com/457751 you could bookmark this to push into conf/machine/blueangel ? |
| 23:07.22 | rob_w | http://pastebin.com/457751 you could bookmark this to push into conf/machine/blueangel.conf ,, i meant |
| 23:07.38 | rob_w | carry`s changes to autoload some more moduels |
| 23:08.22 | lamikr | Yes, everybody should update their monotone to 0.24 version so that they are quarenteed to be compatible with the servers... There happened somekind of oe.db corruption and servers are resynced. |
| 23:08.45 | rob_w | hmm |
| 23:09.29 | rob_w | good they this is "a fixed one " now |
| 23:09.53 | rob_w | corruptions are not very funny most times |
| 23:09.53 | lamikr | better that you submit it as a bug first, I can then try to check it in... I think that is the preferred way... |
| 23:10.07 | lamikr | Luckily anything was not lost. |
| 23:10.32 | lamikr | I need to go to sleep now... Goodnight |
| 23:14.32 | rob_w | what priority is that usually ? |
| 23:15.18 | lamikr|sleep | rob_w: bug priority? |
| 23:15.25 | rob_w | yea |
| 23:15.47 | lamikr|sleep | I have put normal... |
| 23:16.26 | lamikr|sleep | btw, check do you have this "detect-stylus" app installed in your rootfs... |
| 23:17.17 | rob_w | yeah that is fine |
| 23:18.02 | rob_w | hmm i dont have the orig bb file anymore ... so i cant do a diff |
| 23:18.41 | rob_w | anyway |
| 23:19.07 | lamikr|sleep | Well, you can rename your org.openembedded.dev to org.openembedded.dev_new and then make another checkout from org.openembedded.dev |
| 23:19.38 | lamikr|sleep | diff -Naur org.openembedded.dev org.openembedded.dev_new > patch |
| 23:20.58 | lamikr|sleep | But I recommend testing first whether patch works. |
| 23:21.30 | lamikr|sleep | but now, good night :-) |
| 23:24.53 | rob_w | cu |
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| 23:33.31 | rob_w | late guests are the best , lkcl |